| MrChrisDruif_ | BluesKaj: Ghehe ^_^ | 00:03 |
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| MrChrisDruif_ | Well, "almost" perfect | 00:04 |
| MrChrisDruif_ | BluesKaj: I can't login to my own account | 00:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, so it seems lightdm doesn't want to be friends anymore ^_^ | 00:17 |
| Fudge | 64 image didnt boot a desktop for me | 02:05 |
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| imnichol | So how do I go from 12.04 to the 12.10 alpha? | 02:31 |
| Fudge | would my vidcard be causing a problem with this iso, [AMD] nee ATI Juniper XT [AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series] | 02:36 |
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| BluesKaj | 'morning | 10:15 |
| MrChrisDruif | Hi BluesKaj | 10:18 |
| BluesKaj | hi MrChrisDruif , how did your 12.10 install go? | 10:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | BluesKaj; only lightdm stopped loving me, I dpkg-reconfigure'd gdm to make it work. Just now I've dpkg-reconfigure'd lightdm to see if it works again after using gdm | 10:27 |
| BluesKaj | right , lightdm has a few problems , so that's not a surprise | 10:30 |
| MrChrisDruif | It pretty new, so it'll probably don't handle upgrades as it should | 10:31 |
| Fudge | hi guys, i am hoping todays iamge will boot for me | 10:50 |
| Fudge | iamge | 10:50 |
| * Fudge gives up | 10:50 | |
| MrChrisDruif | Fudge; I only switched sources. Only lightdm broke for me | 10:52 |
| Fudge | MrChrisDruif thats pretty good all things considered | 10:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah | 10:54 |
| Daekdroom | Hm.. I haven't read a single thing yet about GTK+2 being dropped from the CD this cycle :( | 13:30 |
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| rymate1234 | boo | 15:34 |
| JonEdney | Windows Update, brb | 15:43 |
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| iceroot | any news about wayland in 12.10? | 16:32 |
| iceroot | or more like a thing for 13.04? | 16:32 |
| iceroot | ah ok found it, it should work in 12.04 (german link) http://www.golem.de/news/displayserver-wayland-soll-in-ubuntu-12-10-funktionieren-1205-91717.html | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | iceroot, the english translation isn't so great , btw | 16:42 |
| BluesKaj | i found this , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5OTY | 16:46 |
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| MrChrisDruif | BluesKaj; I'd thought you might want to know that LightDM works again ^_^ | 21:41 |
| BluesKaj | ok , MrChrisDruif , good to know :) | 21:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | I do like it better then GDM, it's ugly | 21:42 |
| BluesKaj | never tried it myself since I was advised it's not too great with kde | 21:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | [However, the automatic background isn't working =(, but that didn't work before the upgrade either] | 21:43 |
| IdleOne | Are there any OMGwhatdidido reasons not to reboot right now? | 21:47 |
| IntuitiveNipple | MrChrisDruif: I found it needs the background to be changed away and back to what it is to get lightdm to 'see' it | 21:49 |
| IdleOne | I'll take the silence as a clear response to go ahead and reboot | 21:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | IntuitiveNipple; you mean taking a different one, log out and in and change it back again? | 21:50 |
| IntuitiveNipple | MrChrisDruif: No, log-in, change the background, change it back, log-out and it worked in lightdm for me | 21:50 |
| IntuitiveNipple | And I others found the same thing | 21:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright... | 21:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'll check it out | 21:51 |
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| kayve | So this channel is about 12.10 and not 12.04? I guess I just updated to 12.04 and I have issues. | 22:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | kayve; we're 12.10 | 22:19 |
| Debolaz | kayve: It's for 12.10. | 22:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | 12.04 support in #ubuntu | 22:19 |
| kayve | nobody ever answers in #ubuntu. I have been there numerous times over the past years and I have never gotten an answer there. | 22:21 |
| Debolaz | Hehe, I know that feeling. Only fairly trivial questions are likely to be answered there. | 22:21 |
| Debolaz | But this is usually true for IRC in general, not that particular help channel. | 22:22 |
| Debolaz | *not just | 22:22 |
| kayve | My Classic Gnome is not acting right at all after upgrade to 12.04 | 22:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | kayve; you *could* also try #ubuntu-beginners they offer also support for the current release, thou they are few and far between. A lot more personal attention thou | 22:22 |
| kayve | I have got some good answers from IRC channels.. my theory today was getting a channel with the perfect population, not too big, not too small | 22:23 |
| kayve | sometimes folk get downright mean in here. then I have to just forget about it | 22:24 |
| Debolaz | kayve: It helps a lot to have a problem description. If you just say "I have a problem with <x>", people are not likely to bother asking why. | 22:24 |
| kayve | I have been told that I ask questions that are too manual-answerable. | 22:24 |
| kayve | I know. | 22:24 |
| kayve | I started with the question about version 12.04 and 12.10 that was easy | 22:24 |
| kayve | my workspaces seem broken | 22:25 |
| kayve | I can't send my dozen Firefox instances properly to other workspaces and the volume widget isn't on the top bar. | 22:25 |
| kayve | I guess I should google setting it on the command line or something. | 22:25 |
| Debolaz | It seems workspaces are broken for several people in GNOME Classic on 12.04. | 22:26 |
| kayve | hopefully this will imply a soon update that will fix it ? or we are forced to be Mac users? | 22:27 |
| kayve | I confused somebody calling the new Gnome to be "MacIntosh-esque" | 22:27 |
| kayve | hopefully this isn't so confusing to you. | 22:28 |
| Debolaz | Well, a fix might be complicated to implement in this case if it's not something easily reproducible from a fresh install of Ubuntu. | 22:28 |
| kayve | Can I supply some pertinant bug info somewhere to help? | 22:28 |
| Debolaz | Can you (Using VirtualBox so you dont need to wipe out your system) try to reproduce the problem with a fresh installation? And if the problem is reproducible that way, file a bug where you describe the steps you did to make the problem happen. | 22:29 |
| kayve | ::oh mwan:: "VirtualBox" well.. I guess this was something I supposedly was going to try to do anyway... | 22:29 |
| Debolaz | A bug report may not guarantee someone will be able to fix it, but it is a prerequisite for getting it fixed. :) | 22:29 |
| Debolaz | And if you can include steps to reproduce the problem, that gives people a lot more to work on. | 22:30 |
| kayve | Somebody told me that if I installed Microsoft on a VM so I could run ChessBase on it I wouldn't have the same terrible performance I observed on Wine | 22:30 |
| kayve | ::sigh:: I wish I was a more motivated person. I want to go to the gym soon. | 22:30 |
| Debolaz | Hehe, don't we all. | 22:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | No, I want to eat a pancake...and I will! | 22:31 |
| Debolaz | VirtualBox is free (As in open source) and easy to use, so don't worry. | 22:31 |
| kayve | well.. what I was thinking was is there any way I can slurp some linux guts out of some log files or something from my system to provide a good robust bug report? | 22:31 |
| kayve | I need to get better at understanding log files.. but I guess I should acquiesce to VM supposedly it is the future but folk seem to be ignoring that Moore's Law died a decade ago. | 22:32 |
| Debolaz | There is a tool that will gather information from most log files for a bug report, however you really want to see if this is a reproducible bug. It's always a lot easier to fix a bug that you can see with your own eyes instead of just relying on some log files. | 22:33 |
| kayve | can I install VM thru the Ubuntu Software Center? | 22:33 |
| Debolaz | VirtualBox can be installed through the software center yes. | 22:34 |
| kayve | or if you can give me a URL with root prompt instructions that would be fine too | 22:34 |
| Debolaz | https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads can also be used if you want to be sure you have the most up to date version. (However, the version in Software Center should be just fine) | 22:35 |
| kayve | then I should maybe .. uh.. get the 12.04 iso or something? I haven't done any of this .. well.. we did this thing called "bochs" that was some sort of VM I guess for a course at SFSU | 22:35 |
| Debolaz | Yes, get the normal 12.04 desktop iso. | 22:36 |
| kayve | Ubuntu Software Center is maybe 40% done with install | 22:36 |
| Debolaz | Bochs is to VirtualBox what an earthworm is to a Ferrari Enzo. | 22:36 |
| kayve | oh you're familiar with it. That's good. I think the reason for that is like "tinyShell" or uh.. because it was an undergraduate course | 22:37 |
| kayve | "tinyOS" is.. what I was thinking "tOS" | 22:37 |
| kayve | or was it TOS? | 22:38 |
| kayve | OK it's installed.. uh.. | 22:38 |
| Debolaz | Bochs emulates an entire machine. Every single instruction is emulated. VirtualBox runs most of the OS inside it natively. | 22:38 |
| Debolaz | So the performance difference between Bochs and VirtualBox is…. Significant. | 22:38 |
| kayve | still 32 bit? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop | 22:39 |
| Debolaz | Yes, 32 bit is usually fine. | 22:39 |
| Debolaz | 32 bit will work on 64 bit machines. | 22:39 |
| kayve | I know about 32 bit.. that is what I have been doing, but when is all the stuff going to become 64 bit? 41 minutes remaining to download ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso Is that really going to take that long? I have DSL. 300KB/sec my rate is increasing. I want to go work out.. that may take a half hour .. you think you will still be logged on then? | 22:42 |
| mongo | I just run kvm/libvirt, it is less intrusive on the guest OS | 22:42 |
| Debolaz | Sure, I'll probably be on for about 5-6 hours. | 22:42 |
| kayve | Can I use VirtualBox to install Microsoft too I guess? Will it run ChessBase fast you think? | 22:42 |
| Debolaz | Just go and work out. :) | 22:42 |
| kayve | OK thanks {:) | 22:42 |
| Debolaz | Yes, you can install any OS that runs on your host machine inside VirtualBox. | 22:43 |
| kayve | 20.3% body fat. gotta get that down | 22:43 |
| * Debolaz believes he is around 106% at the moment, | 22:43 | |
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