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[00:30] <EvilResistance> anyone here in-channel have bugcontrol on ubuntu bugs on launchpad?
[00:31] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: some people might, what do you need? :)
[00:31] <EvilResistance> roadmr_uds, a specific bug's importance changed from "Undecided" to "Medium"
[00:31] <EvilResistance> <Resistance> bugcontrol members: this (I believe) should have importance level of Medium:  LP Bug 991179
[00:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 991179 in boinc "7.0.24 "computation error" bug" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/991179
[00:32] <EvilResistance> (posted the request about an hour ago)
[00:32] <EvilResistance> roadmr_uds, at this point it just needs a bugcontrol person to do that, otherwise nothing else is of importance on it
[00:33] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: did you look at bug importance criteria? why is it medium in your opinion?
[00:34] <EvilResistance> roadmr_uds, given that the program is non-core, and given the bug affects 11 people, and given that it impacts the functionality of the non-core program in a significant manner, I believe it should be Medium.  (from the Bugs/Importance page, under "Medium": A bug that has a severe impact on a non-core application.)
[00:35] <EvilResistance> normally i'd say 'low" but given 11 people are tagged as having had this affect them...
[00:35] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: awesome, thanks, well-researched!
[00:35] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: do you have a launchpad id?
[00:35] <EvilResistance> roadmr_uds, i'm on the bug squad, trekcaptainusa-tw
[00:35]  * EvilResistance is also an Ubuntu Member
[00:36] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: ok, importance set to Medium
[00:36] <EvilResistance> i still occasionally refer to that page, but given that most of the bugs i touch/see are non-core (Universe, Multiverse), I've memorized impact/Importance for non-core
[00:37] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: sorry it took so long for your request to be looked at
[00:37] <EvilResistance> (I still refer to the page on the wiki, though, just to reconfirm my memory)
[00:37] <EvilResistance> roadmr_uds, its UDS, its expected
[00:37] <EvilResistance> that, and I usually repost every hour or otwo ;P
[00:37] <roadmr_uds> EvilResistance: hehe :) ok, well hopefully it'll be of help
[00:39] <EvilResistance> well, the solution is either (a) fix the current bugs in 7.0.24 of boinc, or (2) get 7.0.27 (which already has the fixes) from Debian to build in Quantal
[00:39] <EvilResistance> right now, neither 7.0.24 nor 7.0.27 build in Quantal
[00:39]  * EvilResistance confirmed this in chroots and pbuilder
[00:40] <EvilResistance> and thanks
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[05:02] <windbuntu> i would like to report a bug
[08:25] <njin> hello, I can see multiple entries in software center, is Sc bug or needs to be reported for every apps ?
[09:15] <txomon|home> njin, you can search for a bug like that in launchpad, and if doesn't exist fill one
[09:19] <ersi> If it doesn't exist, should it be filed against the software center application, or towards the individual applications that show up several times though?
[13:28] <ersi> 15:16 < BKC> no bugs for me yet >.<
[13:28] <ersi> oops, wrong window :-P
[13:28] <Resistance> :P
[13:28] <ersi> fitting mispaste though
[13:28] <Resistance> heh
[13:52] <Resistance> roadmr_uds:  enjoying UDS?  :P
[18:30] <EvilResistance> is 'totem' considered core?
[18:30] <EvilResistance> whoops wrong channel
[18:32] <EvilResistance> anyone here on bugcontrol?  LP Bug 402962 - Severity on 'totem' should be set to 'Low'.  My reasoning on this is as follows: (1) This is a bug which affects 16 people.  (2) This bug, while annoying, does not impact an essential aspect of the program and functionality.  (3) from what research i was able to gather, totem' is not primarily considered part of the "Ubuntu Core" programs
[18:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 402962 in totem "Notify OSD should not rely on applications that inhibit the screensaver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402962
[18:34] <EvilResistance> however, alternatively, if I am incorrect about it being non-core, and it is indeed core, then it should be considered "Medium" according to the documentaiton on bug importance.
[18:38]  * micahg looks
[18:39] <EvilResistance> and of course, micahg knows that 'core' and its definition needs to be defined at the next BugSquad meeting
[18:39] <EvilResistance> defined better*
[18:41] <micahg> EvilResistance: agreed on Low importance
[18:42] <micahg> EvilResistance: but the subject needs to be changed to reflect the bug
[18:42] <EvilResistance> micahg:  i agree, but since i'm reading it via a mobile device... i cant exactly edit easily
[18:42] <EvilResistance> could you do me a favor and change the title accordingly?
[18:42] <EvilResistance> i may be IRC-ing from my computer, but FFox is undergoing upgrades
[18:42] <micahg> EvilResistance: heh, can you fix it later an ping me and I'll set the triage settings
[18:43] <EvilResistance> wonderful, thanks.
[18:43] <micahg> EvilResistance: this could probably use upstreaming as well to bugzilla.gnome.org
[18:44] <EvilResistance> micahg:  i'll take a look at upstreaming it, this'd be the first upstreaming of a bug i'd be doing, but right now i'm out the door
[18:45]  * EvilResistance has a meeting on ITSec policy for his job, and his attendance is mandatory
[18:45] <micahg> EvilResistance: ok, first thing is to search for an existing bug
[18:45] <micahg> EvilResistance: sure, whenever you get a chance
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[19:39] <patrickceg> Hello, I would like to familiarize myself with the Ubuntu codebase - hopefully to get into triage or automated testing later. Any tips for doing so?
[19:46] <KurtKraut> My LibreOffice in Ubuntu 12.04 is crashing during load. Apport sends the debug data and I'd like to see in Launchpad the data Apport sent and help developers giving further details. how should I proceed?
[19:46] <KurtKraut> Apport, for instance, doesn't give a clear context on what I was doing when the crash happened. I'd like to add this kind of info with the data already sent to Launchpad through Apport.
[20:28] <luc4> Hi! I made a mistake. I reported a bug on launchpad, but I mistakenly reported it as if it was a Ubuntu bug. I just noticed there is a different place for Kubuntu. What is it better to do?
[20:29] <greg-g> luc4: what bug number?
[20:29] <luc4> #997767
[20:30] <greg-g> bug 997767
[20:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 997767 in ubuntu "Network connection is lost after some hours of inactivity and comes up again on user interaction" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/997767
[20:30] <greg-g> luc4: here are Kubuntu specific bug reporting guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting
[20:30] <greg-g> and yes, the do use Launchpad to manage their bugs
[20:31] <luc4> Also, I have absolutely no idea what package it refers to. Might be anything. Kernel, KDE, networking service.... But the message requires me to mark for one. What could I do?
[20:31] <greg-g> luc4: I would ask over in #kubuntu ;)
[20:31]  * greg-g doesn't know KDE/Kubuntu very well
[20:32] <luc4> greg-g: tried many times there, but they have no idea.
[20:32] <luc4> greg-g: I also tried on #kde and #ubuntu.
[20:33] <luc4> greg-g: but everyone keeps telling me they have no idea. But this seems quite severe!
[20:34] <greg-g> it is a hard problem to diagnose, unfortunately
[20:34] <greg-g> luc4: try #kubuntu-devel
[20:34] <luc4> greg-g: ok, thanks!
[20:34] <greg-g> luc4: tell them that no one in #ubuntu, #kubuntu, nor #kde could figure it out
[20:34] <greg-g> np
[20:39] <luc4> greg-g: but can I move the bug to kubuntu bugs or do I have to recreate it?
[20:40] <greg-g> luc4: just leave it where it is, it is fine there
[20:40] <luc4> greg-g: thanks again then!
[20:40] <greg-g> np
[20:40] <greg-g> thanks for trying to do the right thing :)
[20:41] <luc4> greg-g: I think it is important :-)
[20:49] <alo21_> hi all
[20:50] <alo21_> I have a big problem understanding C
[20:52] <alo21_> can some one help me?
[20:54] <Pici> The folks in ##C are helpful.
[21:01] <alo21_> thank you
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[22:48] <Resistance> micahg:  you told me to poke you when i got around to fixing the title on LP Bug 402962, so you'd set the Low importance on the totem package (as discussed a while ago)
[22:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 402962 in totem "Totem inhibits screensaver when playing music" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402962
[22:49] <micahg> Resistance: looking
[22:49] <Resistance> see chat logs from... oh... a while ago i think
[22:50] <Resistance> at least 4 hours ago
[22:50] <micahg> Resistance: done, please look at upstreaming as well
[22:50] <Resistance> i'm still checking upstream, but i'm lagging on their bugtracker
[22:50] <Resistance> lol, i was typing that as you said to check upstream :P
[22:50] <micahg> Resistance: thanks
[22:53] <Resistance> micahg:  there's no matching bugs upstream, should i therefore file the bug upstream and link to it in the LP bug?
[22:54] <micahg> Resistance: yes please, and you can add the LP bug in the see also field
[23:00] <Resistance> micahg:  should i only upstream the relevant bits of the bug that refer to totem?
[23:00] <Resistance> or should i just upstream a clone of the LP bug?
[23:01] <micahg> Resistance: relevant please
[23:01] <micahg> I'll be back in a few minutes
[23:01] <Resistance> that's what i thought.
[23:40] <crjon> Hello
[23:41] <crjon> Hey is there anyone out there that can get me started working on bugs
[23:46] <crjon> roadmr_uds, can you talk to a newbie?
[23:46] <Resistance> crjon:  he's at UDS probably
[23:46] <Resistance> there's quite a few UDS meetings going on right now
[23:46] <Resistance> (I'm in one remotely, even)
[23:47] <Resistance> you may need to wait a bit to get a decent response, but I recommend starting out reading here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[23:47] <crjon> oh, sorry I am new to this how do I get in one of those
[23:47] <Resistance> and is there any specific aspect of bugs you wanted to focus on?  fixing?  filing?  etc.
[23:47]  * Resistance focuses on triaging with his duties in BugSquad
[23:48] <crjon> well my ultimate goal is coding but I figured that a good place to start would be to help fix other peoples code just to get my hands on some
[23:49] <micahg> crjon: if you're into fixing bugs, #ubuntu-motu might be a better place
[23:49] <crjon> ah, ok, thanks
[23:49] <crjon> is this more for documenting
[23:50] <micahg> this channel is more for triage
[23:50] <crjon> OK, cool, well thank you for the info, take care
[23:55] <Resistance> hey micahg when's the next BugSquad meeting?
[23:55] <Resistance> or do you even know?
[23:55] <micahg> Resistance: next wed at 17:00 UTC I think
[23:56] <Resistance> bleh, that's right in the middle of my work day :/
[23:56] <Resistance> *shrugs*
[23:57] <Daekdroom> That's right at the beginning of my Logic I class.
[23:57] <Daekdroom> But this channel is logged somewhere, isn't it?
[23:58] <Resistance> micahg:  do me a favor, then, at the meeting: voice my concern about how 'core' vs. 'non-core' is pretty ambiguous to some extent, so while some things might be core, others are non-core.
[23:58] <Resistance> and that the lines between those two are not clearly defined
[23:58] <micahg> Resistance: if I make it
[23:58] <Resistance> well then someone'll have to voice that concern
[23:58] <Resistance> its unlikely i'll make it there