| ubottu | In ubottu, txomon|home said: !next is Another customer satisfied! Just ask! | 00:06 |
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| elky | ^ only if we can use it when the trolls get sad. | 00:07 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, txomon|home said: !next is Another customer satisfied! Next! | 00:10 |
| elky | No, we won't be using your factoid. Sorry. | 00:26 |
| Corey | A pity, that. | 00:35 |
| IdleOne | txomon|home: Please don't idle in this channel | 00:48 |
| Corey | IdleOne: He's idle. | 00:59 |
| * IdleOne would slap Corey if that wasn't so funny :P | 00:59 | |
| elky | Unit193, we use remove, not kick. it avoids triggering auto-rejoin | 01:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | elky; +1 on that | 01:15 |
| Resistance | i apologize if anyone's complained about my nickchanging | 01:22 |
| Resistance | i should have parted #ubuntu before that | 01:22 |
| * Resistance wanted to preemptively apologize | 01:22 | |
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| txomon|home | IdleOne, why can I be here? I wanted to know the resolution to the definition I put in ubottu | 09:08 |
| * txomon|home just read | 09:08 | |
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| LjL | !ping | 11:12 |
| ubottu | another contentless ping... sigh... | 11:12 |
| Pici | tsimpson: that guy complaining about apt earlier really messed up his system. | 19:31 |
| Pici | Somehow he doesn't understand the difference between nightly and stable packages, and had a repo for the former enabled at some point. | 19:31 |
| Myrtti | hi guntbert, what's up? | 20:27 |
| guntbert | Hi, I just stumbled over !clone - it suggests using aptitude which is reported to make problems with multi-arch | 20:27 |
| bobweaver | How too know why you are banned from a channel and for how long. And whrere do I report mis-use of power for one of your members ? | 20:27 |
| Myrtti | guntbert: alright, I'll have a look | 20:27 |
| ikonia | bobweaver: you're banned until you address the issue | 20:28 |
| bobweaver | what ever ikonia | 20:28 |
| bobweaver | you have no right | 20:28 |
| ikonia | you asked, I'm explaining | 20:28 |
| bobweaver | the 1st time that I ever talk too you you pm me and start yelling at me about using the bot so I stop after that you stalk me and abuse your power | 20:29 |
| bobweaver | mean while there is other things that are going on that are omporant | 20:30 |
| bobweaver | imporant | 20:30 |
| Myrtti | bobweaver: what do you mean by stalking? you are aware that ikonia is on several channels | 20:30 |
| bobweaver | Myrtti, that is not what I mean | 20:30 |
| Myrtti | it's a big accusation to throw around | 20:30 |
| Myrtti | as is the claim of abuse of power | 20:31 |
| bobweaver | well there is one thing that I hate coruption | 20:31 |
| bobweaver | and abuse of power it only hurts the masses | 20:31 |
| bobweaver | 1)st lets talk about who I am | 20:31 |
| bobweaver | wiki.ubuntu.com/josephmills | 20:31 |
| bobweaver | https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills | 20:32 |
| bobweaver | so you can get some sorta idea of who I am | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | I fail to see how that is relevant with anythihng | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | you seem to do a lot. And? | 20:33 |
| bobweaver | well I would like too point out that I am verry active in the community and not a bad person or troll | 20:33 |
| Myrtti | if you've been asked not to play with the bots, then you shouldn't play with the bots. | 20:33 |
| Myrtti | you can do that in PM | 20:33 |
| bobweaver | Myrtti, please forgive me if I spell things wrong or misplace words as I have dysliskia | 20:34 |
| bobweaver | Myrtti, I was not banned for playing with bots | 20:34 |
| Myrtti | so what do you think you were banned for then? | 20:34 |
| bobweaver | I was banned because I updated my sources.list and ikonia told me not too. he toldd me not to ask questions about that in ubuntu+1 because it was not supported | 20:35 |
| bobweaver | so I tried not get info from other places one things when down hill beccause well I like too test | 20:35 |
| bobweaver | no not ^^ | 20:36 |
| Myrtti | and so you've been asking for support on channels that can't support you, repeatedly? | 20:36 |
| bobweaver | well I came back too that room too tell people what had happened as I thought that it was a testing Channel | 20:37 |
| Myrtti | and you've been told that you can't be supported, also repeatedly? | 20:37 |
| bobweaver | no | 20:37 |
| bobweaver | that is not true | 20:37 |
| bobweaver | the only op that has ever talked too me as far as "there idea of bad" is ikonia | 20:37 |
| bobweaver | I respect the thoughts of everyone and try too get along | 20:38 |
| bobweaver | but when abuse of power is started it is out of control | 20:38 |
| bobweaver | I will not stop untill this is taken care of or I feeel as thou I have been heard | 20:38 |
| bobweaver | I have been shot by rubber bullets paper spayed and beat by people that misuse power and I still did not move and I willl not here either | 20:39 |
| Myrtti | well, it's clear that my involvement in this will not yield anything | 20:39 |
| Pici | bobweaver: So you don't want to listen to what ikonia has said because he was the only one who said anything? | 20:41 |
| bobweaver | no Pici | 20:41 |
| bobweaver | I did listen when he asked me too not use the bots like that | 20:41 |
| Pici | bobweaver: Thats fine. Many people play with the bots and have to be asked to stop. I'm more interested in you trying to get support for development versions in #ubuntu. | 20:42 |
| bobweaver | I respect ikonia and I have told him that but I have a feeling that he dosent feel the same way | 20:42 |
| bobweaver | Pici, it was a general question about x.org and how to trouble shot | 20:43 |
| bobweaver | I then used paste .ubuntu.com to show my X.Org file | 20:43 |
| bobweaver | on #ubuntu ^^ | 20:43 |
| bobweaver | I got some help which is great | 20:44 |
| Pici | bobweaver: But you were running the development release at that time. | 20:44 |
| bobweaver | so I went too +1 too talk too other about my fix as I thought that it was the correct place too talk about that | 20:44 |
| bobweaver | Pici, what devs dont use development edition of things | 20:44 |
| bobweaver | plz dont take that the wrong way it was a questions | 20:45 |
| Pici | bobweaver: #ubuntu+1 is the place for questions about the development release. #ubuntu is not. | 20:45 |
| Pici | Even if you aren't getting an answer in +1 | 20:45 |
| bobweaver | Pici, I was banned on +1 | 20:45 |
| bobweaver | not on Ubuntu | 20:46 |
| bobweaver | so my question in #ubuntu was about geneal debuging of VGA drivers | 20:46 |
| bobweaver | because I was scared too ask in U+1 because I was scared to ask in +1 | 20:47 |
| bobweaver | because of someone | 20:47 |
| bobweaver | because they told me that the *TESTING* channel was not supporting what I was doing | 20:48 |
| bobweaver | althou the testing wiki is where I got my info | 20:48 |
| Pici | bobweaver: one moment... | 20:48 |
| bobweaver | and how I made the changes in the 1st place | 20:48 |
| bobweaver | sure I will also look for log for everyone | 20:48 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: when did this discussion on #ubuntu+1 take place? | 20:50 |
| bobweaver | right after the ubuntu-calssroom motu thing so I think the 4th | 20:50 |
| bobweaver | but I could be wrong | 20:51 |
| bobweaver | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/04/%23ubuntu+1.html | 20:52 |
| bobweaver | bobweaveranyone want to help debug ?15:11 | 20:52 |
| bobweaver | bobweaverI have no gui as of this morrining :)15:11 | 20:52 |
| bobweaver | BluesKajbobweaver, no desktop ?15:22 | 20:52 |
| bobweaver | bobweaverno desktop :(15:25 | 20:52 |
| bobweaver | bobweaverit is fun thou \o/ | 20:52 |
| mneptok | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/04/%23ubuntu+1.txt | 20:52 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: no need to paste. please do not. | 20:53 |
| bobweaver | sorry will not anymore | 20:53 |
| bobweaver | see I listen I am not a bad dude | 20:53 |
| Pici | I'm trying to figure out what you meant by this: "ikonia: not sure what you are getting at 1st I dont really care 2nd I should tell people correct .... 3 who cares" | 20:53 |
| bobweaver | well I was baned so I could not finish | 20:54 |
| bobweaver | actually bobweaver I can't be bothered explaining this <~~ is that not your job | 20:55 |
| mneptok | [14:59] <bobweaver> hello there where would one look too find out when he is not getting a gui ? | 20:55 |
| mneptok | that and forward in #ubuntu on the same date. for those reading logs. | 20:55 |
| Pici | bobweaver: To me, your line sounds like you don't care about our rules about posting development release questions in #ubuntu. | 20:56 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: as a community contributor, you should know that asking about development versions os Ubuntu on #ubuntu is not allowed. | 20:56 |
| bobweaver | that was not in ubuntu and I was cut off so I could not explain | 20:56 |
| mneptok | s/os/of | 20:56 |
| bobweaver | maybe if I was asked then I would have | 20:56 |
| bobweaver | mneptok, I did not know | 20:56 |
| bobweaver | but asking geneal debuging quesytions even ? | 20:57 |
| bobweaver | and I have like 12 computers that I test things on | 20:57 |
| bobweaver | not saying that anything is right about me asking on ubuntu but ... I did not know that that was a no no | 20:57 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: "lsb_release -a" tells you where to ask questions about that system. no exceptions. | 20:58 |
| bobweaver | look what happened when I posted in +! | 20:58 |
| bobweaver | +1 * | 20:58 |
| bobweaver | I was beeing harassed look at the log from the day before plz | 20:58 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: there is no need to look right now. trust me. OK? | 20:59 |
| bobweaver | What | 21:00 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: now you know that #ubuntu is for released version ONLY. right? | 21:00 |
| bobweaver | I will trust you I dont know you ? | 21:00 |
| bobweaver | not untill now mneptok | 21:00 |
| bobweaver | to be honest | 21:00 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: *NOW* you know ... etc etc | 21:00 |
| mneptok | right? | 21:00 |
| bobweaver | and it was a general debug | 21:00 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: OK, you don't know. | 21:01 |
| bobweaver | mneptok, yes now I do because you have explained and done a good job at well your job | 21:01 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: there is no "general debug" exception for when you're running a development release and regards #ubuntu. | 21:01 |
| mneptok | no exceptions. | 21:01 |
| bobweaver | so where to ask then ? | 21:01 |
| mneptok | 14:58 <+mneptok> bobweaver: "lsb_release -a" tells you where to ask questions about that system. no exceptions. | 21:01 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: #ubuntu+1 | 21:02 |
| bobweaver | that is where I asked but I wanted too know more about hw to get info togeather 1st but that was not a good idea to ask about debuging things in #ubuntu | 21:02 |
| bobweaver | that is where I was banned from | 21:02 |
| bobweaver | ikonia, keep telling me not to do something that I had already done | 21:03 |
| bobweaver | it was over I had entered the commands and changed the sources list long before he started talking to me | 21:03 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: i keep asking a simple question. you keep dancing around an answer. | 21:04 |
| mneptok | 15:00 <+mneptok> bobweaver: now you know that #ubuntu is for released version ONLY. right? | 21:04 |
| bobweaver | <bobweaver> not untill now mneptok | 21:04 |
| mneptok | 15:00 <+mneptok> bobweaver: *NOW* you know ... etc etc | 21:04 |
| bobweaver | that is great thanks for the info | 21:04 |
| bobweaver | next question that I am dancing around ? I want to answer all plz | 21:05 |
| bobweaver | I have nothing too hide because I did nothing wrong and if I did I did not know that I was | 21:05 |
| mneptok | OK then. you will not repeat that behavior in the future without facing a serious ban, and quite the black mark on the record of your good contributions. | 21:06 |
| bobweaver | sure if that was said in the 1st place then 100% would have not have gone that route | 21:06 |
| mneptok | you ask about development versions in the main channels again, there is no excuse. | 21:06 |
| bobweaver | mneptok, but other can not assum that I am on 12.10 or devs edtion right ? | 21:07 |
| bobweaver | because I am not that is only one computer out of the 12 that I own | 21:07 |
| bobweaver | that all have ubuntu on them | 21:07 |
| bobweaver | just trying to get a clear picture I do not want to make mistake | 21:08 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: you will be considered trustworthy. the rules of the channels that were created by the same Ubuntu governance model you say you subscibe to have been explained. | 21:08 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: YOU need to keep track of which machine is running what, and where the Ubuntu community has requested you ask for help. | 21:08 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: if you cannot do it, then there will be consequences. so do it. | 21:09 |
| bobweaver | mneptok, cool but one question | 21:09 |
| mneptok | yes? | 21:09 |
| bobweaver | I was banned for asking that on +1 not on #ubuntu I was kicked from +1 | 21:09 |
| bobweaver | maybe because I was asking about debuging in #ubuntu ? | 21:10 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: if you'll bear with me, you will not be banned anywhere. | 21:10 |
| bobweaver | sure I just want to ask questions so that I do not so anything wrong | 21:10 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: back to the next order of business. | 21:10 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: accusations of stalking and abuse of power. read this .... | 21:11 |
| mneptok | !appeals | 21:11 |
| ubottu | If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. | 21:11 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: these serious accusations are not something this channel or the ops team should deal with | 21:11 |
| bobweaver | thanks I will also join your mailing list do you have one ? | 21:11 |
| bobweaver | also like to join * | 21:12 |
| Myrtti | huh? | 21:12 |
| bobweaver | dang dysliscia | 21:12 |
| bobweaver | if you have a mailing list of the things that the ops talk about I would like to join can you plz give me link if there is one | 21:12 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: 1 moment. phone. | 21:12 |
| bobweaver | sorry about my learning dissablity it hunts me all the time | 21:13 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: i'm back. | 21:13 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: you should bring allegations of stalking and abuse of power to the IRC Council. | 21:14 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: the factoid above tells you how. | 21:14 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: it is your decision on how you want to proceed. but you are expected to follow the CoC and IRC Guidelines at all times. | 21:15 |
| mneptok | !coc | 21:15 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | 21:15 |
| mneptok | !guidelines | 21:15 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 21:15 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: please tell all of us when you have read those 3 docs | 21:16 |
| bobweaver | Thansk I am going to read all that | 21:16 |
| * mneptok will go for a beverage | 21:16 | |
| * bobweaver yum I mean apt coffee | 21:17 | |
| bobweaver | I am going too go back to UDS stuff now and will read and post when I am done reading | 21:18 |
| ikonia | bobweaver: please leave the channel and come back when you've read it then please. | 21:19 |
| bobweaver | ok ..... | 21:23 |
| bobweaver | Ok I have read that wiki page and I have signed the COC . thanks for hearing my issue out. ikonia no hard felling could I ask on thing if you think that i am doing something plz pm me if you like I am here to learn and teach not to disrupt | 21:31 |
| bobweaver | sometimes my learning disablity renders things wrong | 21:31 |
| IdleOne | bobweaver: I just want to make sure you understand that #ubuntu is only for released and supported versions of Ubuntu? | 21:32 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: now you know what is expected of Ubuntu IRC users, especially members. | 21:33 |
| IdleOne | and #ubuntu+1 is used for the dev cycle support and discussion | 21:33 |
| bobweaver | sure and I want to always learn more and who know I could maybe help you guys one day with something | 21:33 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: [15:15] <bobweaver> ikonia: stop being so hard on people <-- no more of this sort of thing. | 21:33 |
| bobweaver | I have wrote many bots | 21:34 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: you know how to escalate problems. | 21:34 |
| bobweaver | thanks mneptok for real thanks.like I said I am not here to disrupt. | 21:35 |
| bobweaver | and I will never try too talk to ikonia again and know where to ask things and report issues | 21:35 |
| bobweaver | thanks again and keep up the good work :) | 21:35 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: alright, i'll cosider that tacit approval to abide the community rules. and also acknowledgment that if you do not, things will not be so easy. | 21:35 |
| mneptok | @login | 21:35 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 21:36 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: i have removed the ban in #ubuntu | 21:37 |
| bobweaver | thanks mneptok | 21:37 |
| IdleOne | bobweaver: ikonia is a well respected member of our community and also an op in many of the #ubuntu* channels, chances are you will have to deal with him at some point. | 21:37 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: safe journey. read twice before pressing <enter>. | 21:38 |
| bobweaver | :) | 21:38 |
| IdleOne | bobweaver: I suggest you remember that respectful communications between all users of Ubuntu is absolutely a + | 21:38 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: print those 3 documents you read. read them again. repetition kills dyslexia every time. | 21:38 |
| bobweaver | will do btw I have what is called nonsense word reading dysliscia | 21:41 |
| knome | dyslexia, that is | 21:42 |
| IdleOne | alrighty, if we are all done here I would like you all to get off my lawn please. | 21:42 |
| IdleOne | :) | 21:43 |
| * knome moonwalks to the pathway leading to IdleOne's kitchen door | 21:43 | |
| IdleOne | don't let the cat out | 21:44 |
| IdleOne | bobweaver: I believe we are all done here. Please part this channel and I hope I don't see you in here anytime soon :) | 21:44 |
| knome | hehe. no, and not 'more' either. | 21:44 |
| bobweaver | sorry was walking kernel (dog) thanks cya and have a good one | 21:52 |
| bobweaver | I am still banned | 21:53 |
| bobweaver | so I have to restart irc service ? | 21:53 |
| mneptok | bobweaver: from #ubuntu? | 21:53 |
| bobweaver | yes | 21:54 |
| IdleOne | no, one moment please | 21:54 |
| IdleOne | try again | 21:54 |
| bobweaver | there we go thanks | 21:55 |
| bobweaver | have a good one guys/girls/whatever | 21:55 |
| mneptok | ikonia: you can come out of the bunker. | 21:58 |
| ikonia | I'm here | 21:58 |
| mneptok | i'm sorry. ;) | 21:59 |
| ikonia | no need to apologise, I appreciated someone else dealing with him, I can't tollerate lies, so I'm thankful someone else delt with it | 21:59 |
| mneptok | i meant "i'm sorry you're on IRC, like the rest of us lowlives." O:) | 22:01 |
| ikonia | ooh | 22:02 |
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