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| mpt | Bye Luke :-) | 00:04 |
| mpt | Is Ted Gould, Lars Uebernickel, Charles Kerr, or Conor Curran there? | 00:04 |
| mpt | oh, there's charles on IRC | 00:05 |
| mpt | \o/ | 00:05 |
| mpt | I think I heard Ana as well | 00:07 |
| mpt | hello! | 00:07 |
| mpt | Only your first UDS and already you get to sit in the front row | 00:07 |
| mpt | I am online | 00:08 |
| mpt | Is that better? | 00:08 |
| charles | http://design.canonical.com/2012/04/status-menus/ | 00:09 |
| NMinker | how long is the lag? | 00:16 |
| NMinker | bless you | 00:16 |
| shirgall | An ical feed would work for those who use Google Calendar | 00:23 |
| jbicha | are those on/off switches already supported for indicators? | 00:28 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, not yet | 00:29 |
| jbicha | some airlines allow wifi now | 00:29 |
| shirgall | Can we reduce the number of lines consumed for items/catories that are disabled, and for enabling them? | 00:29 |
| shirgall | For example: on my laptop, I have Mobile Broadband, and a line that says "not enabled" and another line that says "Enable mobile broadband". | 00:29 |
| jbicha | shirgall: having the on/off switch should help with that | 00:31 |
| shirgall | jbicha: yeah, on some devices you end up with a lot of networking devices and the window gets huge | 00:31 |
| shirgall | On Bluetooth, why do we have "send files to device" and "Browse files on device" instead of just exposing it as another filesystem in Nautilus? | 00:34 |
| shirgall | It would be nice to switch power save profiles with the battery indicator instead of addons like cpufreq or jupiter | 00:35 |
| mpt | shirgall, I don't know for sure, but I think it is because there might be dozens of applicable devices nearby which would full Nautilus's side pane | 00:35 |
| shirgall | mpt: fair enough, but the bluetooth menu doesn't list applicable devices either... if there was a filestore that could be explored, wouldn't it be better to show it and open nautilus on it and show nothing if there are no applicable devices? | 00:37 |
| shirgall | messaging menu should be able to start those applications | 00:37 |
| shirgall | Not happy that my messaging menu is currently showing "Set up Mail..." and "Thunderbird Mail" simultaneously. | 00:38 |
| mpt | shirgall, that would be a bug | 00:41 |
| shirgall | dmy default application for mail is set up as "Gnome Gmail" | 00:42 |
| shirgall | So far that cough was the loudest thing to come through the stream. :) | 00:45 |
| mpt | It's weird to hear someone typing something after it's already shown up in Etherpad | 00:46 |
| NMinker | indeed | 00:46 |
| NMinker | It's kind of like seeing into the future | 00:46 |
| mpt | The indicator has/had the "it disappears just as you're about to click" problem too | 00:47 |
| shirgall | It stays as long as there's a local job, right? | 00:48 |
| mpt | This is an open question, though -- we could let it stay open afterwards | 00:48 |
| mpt | shirgall, yes | 00:48 |
| shirgall | if the job gets an error, it stays, I have tested this by stopping the queue on the other machine | 00:48 |
| shirgall | For example, I had overaggressive ufw settings, jobs stalled | 00:49 |
| shirgall | Super p r i n click the first icon :) | 00:49 |
| mpt | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDesignGuidelines | 00:51 |
| shirgall | Session dropped, but no IRC notification | 00:54 |
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| shirgall | QoS does exist | 00:55 |
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| mpt | Add a work item for me to check that accessible titles are in all the specs too | 00:57 |
| mpt | There is for the sound menu and messaging menu, at least (just checked those now | 00:57 |
| mpt | ) | 00:57 |
| shirgall | (and do they need to be translated?) | 00:57 |
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| shirgall | Do my questions above count? | 00:59 |
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| * jledbetter waves | 19:01 | |
| jledbetter | Howdy :) | 19:01 |
| jledbetter | Audio is dropping for me | 19:03 |
| jtatum | yikes | 19:04 |
| jtatum | nobody's touching it | 19:04 |
| jledbetter | Maybe the network. I dunno. | 19:04 |
| jledbetter | People must be using up all the wifi playing their games ;) Ok. I can hear stuff. | 19:05 |
| jtatum | still egetting setup | 19:05 |
| jledbetter | np. *keeps eating* have to run from this to another meeting next door | 19:05 |
| jledbetter | jtatum: get me a magnet please :) | 19:07 |
| jledbetter | Will try :) | 19:08 |
| jledbetter | Cool | 19:10 |
| akk | How does pleia2 tweet while talking? :) | 19:11 |
| * philipballew wonders himself | 19:11 | |
| jledbetter | She's uber multitasker | 19:11 |
| grantbow | uber | 19:12 |
| * jledbetter wants cloning technology! | 19:12 | |
| akk | Or a time-turner. | 19:12 |
| jledbetter | Oh. Yes. | 19:13 |
| jledbetter | And can be approached with questions after too. (re: role model) | 19:14 |
| pleia2 | yeah :) | 19:15 |
| * jledbetter can help with WP | 19:17 | |
| akk | Everybody's seeing the same "fatal error" I am, I assume? | 19:18 |
| jtatum | yes, akk | 19:18 |
| akk | It also had a problem where it wasn't picking up feeds from a lot of participants. | 19:18 |
| philipballew | yes akk | 19:18 |
| grantbow | google cached blog.ubuntu-women.org page (wayback.archive.org didn't have it) | 19:20 |
| grantbow | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCQQIDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3Anop-Ta4VDv0J%3Ablog.ubuntu-women.org%2F%2B%26cd%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus&ei=rBSsT8GsMuKi2wXf7fylAg&usg=AFQjCNFWoeNE8fwRlHYVfjaPIefqsgJv2g&sig2=pbN1_WoMS11E1M_8aLFkYA | 19:20 |
| akk | huge header indeed | 19:20 |
| jtatum | looks fixable, lot of whitespace in the image | 19:20 |
| jledbetter | sorry, sound keeps dropping again. | 19:21 |
| akk | Sound is working well here, though it doesn't reach to all the questioners. | 19:22 |
| jledbetter | Ah. It's probably my network. I left my desk so I wouldn't be disturbed for this. | 19:22 |
| akk | I'm getting tiny dropouts but not long enough to miss anything. | 19:23 |
| jledbetter | Hm ok. My tiny dropouts are enough to miss something. It's ok. I'm back in and can follow along in the pad :) | 19:23 |
| jledbetter | next UDS sounds like we should have a what is U-W and a separate session on U-W planning :) | 19:25 |
| jledbetter | October 16 http://findingada.com/ | 19:29 |
| akk | Also, posting in a non-PDF format adds google-fu. | 19:35 |
| jledbetter | +1 non-PDF | 19:35 |
| jledbetter | We'd talked about using UBT by finding friendly mentors in that project to funnel folks into the Ubuntu projects. | 19:36 |
| paulproteus | akk++ | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | jledbetter: UBT? | 19:37 |
| jtatum | ubuntu beginner's team | 19:37 |
| paulproteus | Thanks! | 19:37 |
| jledbetter | paulproteus: For mo infos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam | 19:37 |
| jledbetter | sometimes just the mentoring is how to get started/where to go | 19:39 |
| paulproteus | <backchannel>I would love to get more people in UBT and ubuntu-women to care about http://openhatch.org/missions/ and find out if that's something ubuntu-women can recommend to people, but don't want to be too self-promote-y</backchannel> | 19:41 |
| jledbetter | paulproteus: You recruiter you ;) | 19:41 |
| jledbetter | +1 to not everyone using irc | 19:43 |
| paulproteus | http://adainitiative.org/2012/05/reminder-adacamp-dc-travel-applications-close-this-friday-may-11/ | 19:46 |
| paulproteus | re: my backchannel thing: I'll just bring that up on the mailing list. | 19:53 |
| * jledbetter waves. See y'all later. Got a meeting at 1 :) | 19:55 | |
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| highvoltage | pleia2: I added a block for http://edubuntu.org that links to ubuntu-women, is the text ok? (suggestions welcome) | 20:45 |
| pleia2 | highvoltage: that's great! thank you :) | 20:48 |
| highvoltage | :) | 20:56 |
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| mpt | Is this the authentication session? It doesn't sound particularly ... authenticationistic | 22:09 |
| mpt | Who proposed it? | 22:10 |
| mpt | That would be laggy | 22:10 |
| mpt | The streaming audio is about ten seconds behind real life | 22:10 |
| mpt | Any new authentication scheme would need to be recognized in at least unity-greeter, policyKit-gnome, and gnome-control-center | 22:13 |
| mpt | There is a separate session on fingerprint authentication: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-fingerprintauthentication | 22:16 |
| mpt | And it's been discussed at *four* UDSes previously: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/fingerprint-authentication | 22:16 |
| mpt | (actually, three, declined for one) | 22:17 |
| mpt | So, I suggest first deciding, what specifically do you want people to be able to do and by when | 22:20 |
| mpt | e.g. "By Ubuntu 12.10, someone should be able to log in with a combination of smartcard and password" | 22:20 |
| mpt | or "By Ubuntu 13.04, someone should be able to use just their fingerprint and not need a password for anything" | 22:21 |
| mpt | Otherwise it will end up like firewall GUI, or parental controls, or the common printing dialog: one of those things that usually gets discussed and never gets done :-) | 22:23 |
| robert_ancell | mpt, agreed. The main issue seems to be no resources to implement this (as per last time). | 22:25 |
| mpt | yes | 22:39 |
| mpt | I'd be happy to design that | 22:39 |
| mpt | It would make sense to design them both at once, at least | 22:40 |
| mpt | even if the implementation happens a bit at a time | 22:40 |
| mpt | sure | 22:43 |
| mpt | And someone supersede the fingerprint-specific blueprint so that its subscribers know what's happening | 22:44 |
| mpt | cheers | 22:46 |
| mpt | To log in, require: [/] Password [ ] Fingerprint [ ] Smart card [ ] Voiceprint ... | 22:50 |
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