[06:10] <Knightwise> good morning everyone
[06:15] <Knightwise> how are you doing today ?
[06:48] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:55] <AlanBell> morning MooDoo
[06:55] <AlanBell> and goodnight
[06:55] <MooDoo> good night :)
[07:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh dear. My son just came into my office before heading off to school. "Since you did that stupid upgrade to 12.04 minecraft is really slow. I can't use it anymore".  Might have to stick them back on 10.04
[07:14] <popey> or just login to unity 2d
[07:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> They are already - PC won't run Unity 3D
[07:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Too slow.
[07:15] <popey> yet it runs minecraft?
[07:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> It was fine in 10.10
[07:15] <popey> i find that hard to believe
[07:15] <popey> reverting to 10.04 is a baby/bathwater 'solution'
[07:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> The only other option is to buy/upgrade the PC
[07:16] <popey> lol
[07:16] <MooDoo> :)
[07:16] <popey> or figure out why it's slow?
[07:16] <MooDoo> evening popey uds going ok?
[07:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> 11.10 wouldn't run Unity 3D either but Minecraft was fine in 2D
[07:16] <MooDoo> TheOpenSourcerer: ban him from minecraft instead ;)
[07:16] <popey> no, no, far easier to format the disk and install something else.
[07:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[07:17] <popey> yeah, went out in san fran with AlanBell and lots of others
[07:17] <popey> went on a cable car which was fun
[07:18] <popey> hanging on to the side as we went up and down hills
[07:18] <MooDoo> nice :)
[07:18] <MooDoo> pleia2 the tour guide? :)
[07:19] <popey> yup
[07:19] <popey> had crab for tea
[07:19] <popey> and then a "one scoop" ice cream
[07:19] <popey> which was immense
[07:19]  * popey gets the photo of AlanBell 
[07:19] <MooDoo> one scoop?
[07:19] <AlanBell> oh no
[07:20] <MooDoo> do you know the photo czajkowski has on her laptop when it was connected to the projector?
[07:20] <popey> yes
[07:20] <AlanBell> yes
[07:20] <MooDoo> lol wasn't the bird pooing was it? lol
[07:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hi AlanBell
[07:20] <AlanBell> yes
[07:20] <AlanBell> hi TheOpenSourcerer
[07:20] <MooDoo> LOL
[07:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Thought you'd gone to bed.
[07:20] <AlanBell> I am in bed
[07:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ah. TMI
[07:21] <popey> i am in bed too
[07:21] <popey> not the same bed though
[07:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ewwww
[07:21] <MooDoo> ewwwwww
[07:21] <MooDoo> lol
[07:21] <popey> not even tha same room
[07:21] <AlanBell> DIFFERENT BED
[07:21] <popey> or floor
[07:21] <AlanBell> and on that note, night all o/
[07:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> o/
[07:21] <MooDoo> o/ laters
[07:24] <mattt> wow
[07:24] <mattt> what'd i walk into ?
[07:25] <MooDoo> mattt: don't ask :)
[07:30] <DJones> Morning
[07:30] <miraculous> morning
[07:31] <MooDoo> morning you pair :)
[07:33] <miraculous> morning DooMoo!
[07:33] <DJones> Morning MooDoo & miraculous
[07:34] <miraculous> hellooooo DJones \o/
[07:35] <DJones> I had to think then who your nick was, then I remembered seeing the nick change yesterday
[07:36] <miraculous> hehe
[07:37] <miraculous> oh yes, i was amused -- we were playing trivia in #cowgirls -- apparently miraculous is the patron saint of virgins, it bemused me so i decided to nick to it
[07:37]  * MooDoo obviously missed that nick change
[07:38] <miraculous> (though more amusingly, the patron saint of houseviwes is apparently "saint martha" -- that is mainly amusing because i got it wrong but i responded with "martha steward haha")
[07:38] <miraculous> i had no idea how close i was!
[07:39] <MooDoo> ah miraculous now i know
[07:41] <dwatkins> ali1234: are you around?
[07:42] <dwatkins> I'm wondering if hardware acceleration is enabled by default for flash in Ubuntu, and whether turning it off is a viable solution, or if it causes videos to play slowly.
[08:00] <DJones> If this was real, it'd be a great idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ew4Y5HLyT6c
[08:00] <MooDoo> DJones: you mean it's not?  but it's got real people in the car and all that? ;)
[08:01] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:01] <DJones> MooDoo: Well, 2 websites have reported it as being being real..... So you never know
[08:01] <miraculous> morning bigcalm
[08:01] <miraculous> bigcalm: oh you can come assemble some furniture for me!
[08:01]  * miraculous needs a man!
[08:01] <MooDoo> DJones: phew *snigger*
[08:01] <bigcalm> Every time I switch on my machine there's a crash report to send. But sending it does nothing to get rid of it
[08:02] <MooDoo> miraculous: how may i help, and if it's for moving, you know i'm too far away
[08:02]  * bigcalm flexes for miraculous
[08:02] <miraculous> MooDoo: mmm i know, that's why i am trying to chat up bigcalm!
[08:02] <bigcalm> Ha
[08:02] <miraculous> i am sure hayley would let me borrow him if i returned him in decent condition!
[08:02] <miraculous> :P
[08:02] <bigcalm> :D
[08:02] <DJones> miraculous: Whoever you get will still have 3 screws, a nut and a couple of those little plastic caps left over
[08:03] <miraculous> DJones: true!
[08:03]  * mattt discreetly does a /whois on miraculous
[08:03] <bigcalm> I quite enjoy putting together Ikea stuff
[08:03] <mattt> oh
[08:03] <bigcalm> miraculous: can it wait until the 14th July? ;)
[08:03] <MooDoo> mattt: she did a nick change yesterday :)
[08:03] <bigcalm> Hayley and I are spending the weekend in Farnham
[08:03] <miraculous> bigcalm: that is AGES away!
[08:03] <miraculous> :P
[08:03] <bigcalm> I know :(
[08:05] <bigcalm> I actually took a day off IRC yesterday. Amazing how much work I did
[08:05] <MooDoo> where are you based miraculous ?
[08:05] <miraculous> farnham!
[08:05] <mattt> doesn't ikea have an assembly service?  :)
[08:06] <miraculous> i dunno!
[08:13] <currymonster> anybody know how to alter "your path"?
[08:13] <miraculous> MooDoo: though i am moving :)
[08:14] <bigcalm> miraculous: where are you moving to?
[08:14] <MooDoo> miraculous: i know that, just down the road right?
[08:16] <currymonster> maybe i should re-phrase that
[08:16] <oimon> miraculous, martha is the patron saint of housewives? lol
[08:17] <miraculous> oimon: yes! apparently so - it amused me greatly!
[08:17] <currymonster> I've just installed tex live, and it is asking me to make a change to 'manpath' and 'infopath', any ideas on how i do this?
[08:17] <miraculous> bigcalm: not super far -- about 15mins out of town (on t'other side) to a small place called beaconhill
[08:18] <oimon> martha was gently rebuked for worrying about housework rather than choosing what is greater
[08:18] <miraculous> tis pretty out there (i'll be a few minutes walk from the devils punch bowl)
[08:18] <bigcalm> :)
[08:18] <oimon> isn't that where gladiator was filmed?
[08:19] <diplo> morning all
[08:19] <oimon> mornin'
[08:19] <MooDoo> morning
[08:19] <diplo> First time using IRC from pidgin, so far not to bad tbh
[08:19] <oimon> i used it for years, but switched to xchat recently
[08:20] <MooDoo> i'm fine with irssi
[08:20] <diplo> heh just reinstalled VPS last night MooDoo, not got that far yet
[08:20] <oimon> called t-mobile to cancel last night. they weren't able to match giffgaff or 3 mobile on price
[08:20] <diplo> And not reinstalled XChat since installing 12.04
[08:21] <MooDoo> diplo: did the upgrade go ok, or did you have to totally rebuild?
[08:21] <diplo> It's fine if you are happy with your phone I guess oimon
[08:21] <oimon> yeah till there is a decent ubuntu phone i will be happy
[08:21] <diplo> I blatted both my PC and my VPS so no upgrades to speak of unfortunatly
[08:21] <oimon> (i mean dockable android phone that turns into ubuntu)
[08:23] <diplo> I do like that, not sure about it still yet
[08:23] <diplo> Get an Atrix off of Ebay oimon?
[08:23] <oimon> aren't they quite old?
[08:23] <diplo> It's what Canonical are developing this against
[08:24] <oimon> they aren't dual core though are they?
[08:24]  * diplo = dumbass :(
[08:24] <diplo> Left my PSU for laptop in Nottingham
[08:25] <diplo> OSAndroid OS, v2.2 (Froyo), upgradable to v2.3ChipsetNvidia Tegra 2 AP20HCPUDual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
[08:25] <diplo> Yupsy, sounds like the Desire tbh
[08:25] <diplo> http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
[08:25] <oimon> i can wait until hopefully a vendor will produce a new phone designed for it
[08:28] <oimon> i am tempted by the £5 giffgaff deal now
[08:28] <diplo> I got given a Wildfire ( Buzz ) it's slow but I'll wait till I can afford to buy another phone
[08:29] <oimon> yeah my sister has a waildfire. i told her to get the desire but she thought better
[08:29] <oimon> she was wrong
[08:30] <gordonjcp> oimon: I've got a giffgaff sim you can have
[08:30] <gordonjcp> which has most of a £5 gigabag on it
[08:30] <gordonjcp> totally unusable here, since I only get GPRS coverage
[08:31] <diplo> oimon: Put a new rom on for her ?
[08:31] <oimon> gordonjcp, thanks for the offer, but i've just ordered one - save it for when ur on holiday!
[08:31] <oimon> diplo, the screen is pretty small/lame though imo
[08:31] <diplo> Made a huge difference to mine
[08:31] <oimon> really? ok i'll try then
[08:31] <oimon> CM or HTC rom?
[08:31] <diplo> It is, but using Cyagen has made all the difference, longer battery etc
[08:32] <diplo> More space
[08:32] <oimon> anyone using SIP for calls?
[08:32] <diplo> I can't complain as mine was a freebie
[08:32] <diplo> Nope, keep meaning to try it.
[08:37] <oimon> seems cheap. and i'm on wifi most of the day
[08:37] <oimon> and i don't make calls (much)
[08:38] <diplo> Same here, that's why I keep meaning to look at it. I'm on wifi apart from when I'm in the car really.. be it work/friends/swimming lessons.. Just about everywhere :)
[08:38] <s-fox> Hi
[08:39] <diplo> 'ello
[08:39] <MooDoo> hi s-fox
[08:39] <s-fox> Hello diplo and MooDoo
[08:49] <emorris> hi, I'm half way through an upgrade to 12.04, but have lost keyboard and mouse activity on the machine, and I need to answer a dialog. I am using a KVM switch to switch between that and another PC, so that may have upset it. Is there anything I can do? I do have SSH access. Thanks in advance!
[08:52] <s-fox> Hi emorris , is it a wired mouse / keyboard?
[08:55] <dwatkins> if you have x11vnc, you could remote control the machine's graphical console
[08:56] <emorris> s-fox, yes, usb
[08:56] <bigcalm> emorris: can you plug them in directly, bypassing the KVM switch?
[08:56] <emorris> dwatkins, unfortunately I don't. I did think of that, but can't install it as a package manager is already running
[08:56] <emorris> bigcalm, tried that, same problems
[08:57] <emorris> the light in the mouse and the caps lock light comes on, but no response. I can't event turn caps lock on/off
[08:57] <dwatkins> emorris: have you got the option of attaching a PS2 keyboard, perhaps?
[08:58] <emorris> dwatkins, unfortunately I don't have one with me. If there's no other option, I could borrow one later on though
[09:01] <dwatkins> emorris: if it were my machine, I'd kill the installation on the console via ssh and use apt within a screen session on the command line
[09:06] <diplo> Do we have any nginx users here ?
[09:09] <emorris> dwatkins, annoyingly, I don't have screen installed either. I think I might be able to do it over a serial port though
[09:13] <dwatkins> emorris: you can just kill whatever's on the console then install GNU screen in theory, emorris - depends what's running in X, though
[09:36] <JamesTait> Morning all!
[09:37] <diplo> Morning JamesTait
[09:41] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:42] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[09:43] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:50] <brobostigon> !xorg
[09:50] <brobostigon> !xserver-xorg-core
[09:50] <brobostigon> !info xserver-xorg-core
[10:04] <davmor2> morning all
[10:04] <bigcalm> Hi davmor2
[10:04] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 how's it going buddy?
[10:05] <diplo> Anyone do me a favour, just nmap 85.119.82.250
[10:05] <diplo> What ports are open ? should be 22/80
[10:06] <MooDoo> diplo: ssh and http
[10:06] <MooDoo> diplo: yes just 22 and 80
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> agreed. It's an Ubuntu machine with 22 & 80 open
[10:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> nginx running on 80
[10:14] <diplo> Thanks MooDoo
[10:14] <diplo> Sorry got called out of the office :)
[10:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: good thanks dude, just missed out on the ea plenary so I'll catch up with that tonight, I got shadowman installed and for a game from 1999 it still rocks
[10:16] <davmor2> I love wine
[10:16] <davmor2> morning bigcalm
[10:17] <oimon> plenary reminds me of my son, who calls piano plano
[10:17] <MooDoo> davmor2: awesome
[10:20] <oimon> is wine preferred over dosbox  for  a '99 game?
[10:20] <davmor2> oimon: it's not a dos game so yes
[10:20] <oimon> :P
[10:21] <oimon> which OS is it for? i thought win98 was the prevalent OS at the time
[10:27] <davmor2> oimon: yeap windows 95+ but works flawlessly on xp
[10:30] <davmor2> oimon: it was out the same kinda time as the very first tombraider but look at this for graphics http://ubuntuone.com/6ouQQBBaQ2yFN2WGiQykhw
[10:31] <oimon> not sure if good or bad...
[10:34] <diplo> bad!
[10:34] <diplo> :P
[10:35] <oimon> tomb raider was quite good graphics
[10:35] <oimon> i remember some scenes took my breath away
[10:35] <diplo> Just bought my kids a Sega pack for the Xbox 360, they love it but I was cringing at the graphics but the gameplay was ok
[10:35] <davmor2> oimon: http://www.tombraiders.net/katie/screenshots/tr1/lara1.shtml that is tombraider in comparison
[10:35] <diplo> I remember playing that
[10:35] <diplo> :P
[10:36] <davmor2> oimon: the only thing that really dates it is the video cut scenes
[10:38] <davmor2> oimon: I'll have a proper play on it tonight and see if I can't take a breathtaking screenshot for you :D
[10:46] <davmor2> oimon: better still you can see for yourself http://www.old-games.com/download/5851/shadow-man :D
[10:46] <oimon> there were some large room scenes in TR that were great.
[10:47] <oimon> not quite as dark as those on that site
[10:47] <oimon> i don't think i've completed many games since TR
[10:47] <oimon> except for TR II
[10:48] <oimon> and rsident evils...all those games that give you heart attacks when they make you jump
[10:51] <oimon> tomb raider 9 is coming out soon :-\
[10:53] <davmor2> is anyone else seeing the buttons on the right after the latest updates?
[10:53] <DJones> Tomb Raider 9 ? I didn't know there was anything after Tomb Raider 1.... Is it going to be like Die Hard 46 with Bruce Willis on a zimmerframe beating the care assistants up up in his retirement home for not giving him the right cosnsitency of gruel
[10:54] <oimon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOVbF8qLCCA gameplay from 1yr ago
[10:54] <diplo> DJones: Some of the later games are great tbh
[10:55] <diplo> Got one on the PS3 that I am sooo stuck on
[10:55] <diplo> :P
[10:55] <diplo> A lot darker  now though, I preferred the funnier side of it
[10:56] <oimon> i liked the egypt stuff
[10:56] <oimon> i only have wii now, so just zelda for me:-\
[10:57] <gordonjcp> I was tempted to buy the PS3 rebuild of RE4
[11:04] <diplo> My newest buy for the Ps3 is Toy Story 3
[11:04] <diplo> Great fun
[11:21] <diplo> Everyone having a good day today?
[11:21] <MooDoo> diplo: people off so busy
[11:21] <s-fox> Pretty good thank you, wondering about what to have for lunch. No idea what to have
[11:21] <diplo> Bar for a dumb 1-2 hour session of working out NGINX this morning and that it wasn't my config most things have gone ok
[11:21] <s-fox> How is your day going diplo  ?
[11:22] <diplo> Not used to setting up web development areas on the actual web, always local so don't worry about firewalls
[11:22] <diplo> Been hard reminding myself IPTables :)
[11:22] <diplo> Thinking skipping lunch myself
[11:23] <diplo> MooDoo: don't you work from home ?
[11:25] <MooDoo> diplo: i wish, but no
[11:25] <diplo> ah bigcalm maybe then
[11:28] <MooDoo> :P)
[11:35] <diplo> Wat mail client do you guys use atm
[11:36] <diplo> I keep finding thunderbird a bit .....
[11:36] <diplo> Used to like it, seem to have fallen out of love now
[11:36] <diplo> Left my bloomin PSU in Nottingham so need to read mail on here
[11:37] <diplo> aha, I just remember I set up roundcube on my pc \o/
[12:13]  * bigcalm looks in
[12:13] <bubuz> how can i use sed to change the text of one file and save to a new file - not just the lines it has changed - all lines of original file?
[12:13] <bigcalm> SUp?
[12:13] <bubuz> be helpful for nagios config files but it just seems to create the new file with only the lines it has changed from the old one and not just substituted in?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> diplo: it's the bloody stupid tabs thing that annoys me
[12:14] <directhex> bubuz, cat | sed > newfile
[12:14] <directhex> ?
[12:14] <diplo> yeah and that.
[12:19] <bubuz> directhex, i want to create a config file that is a copy of the original - just with different host name which is mentioned several times in the original
[12:20] <diplo> bubuz: I just cp the file and then use vi search and replace
[12:20] <bubuz> sed 's/KCLIVEUBWS1/KCLIVEUBWS2/w KCLIVEUBWS2' KCLIVEUBWS2.cfg for example
[12:20] <bubuz> there must be an easier way to do though diplo so can script it... ?
[12:20] <diplo> :g/<searchstring/s//Replace string/g maybe ?
[12:20] <diplo> Been a while since I used it
[12:21] <bubuz> sed 's/KCLIVEUBWS1/KCLIVEUBWS2/w KCLIVEUBWS2' KCLIVEUBWS1.cfg even ***
[12:21] <diplo> I also quite often now just use a IDE sftp onto the nagios box and Ctrl H :)
[12:22] <bubuz> sed 's/KCLIVEUBWS1/KCLIVEUBWS2/w KCLIVEUBWS2.cfg' KCLIVEUBWS1.cfg even *** apologies
[12:23] <diplo> Got a lot of hosts bubuz ?
[12:23] <bubuz> a few but growing
[12:23] <diplo> I basically did a few sites a day over a few weeks
[12:23] <diplo> As it was something we didn't have before I didn't rush it/get peeved with it by doing it slowly
[12:24] <diplo> Learnt more that way as well
[12:24] <bubuz> i want to automate though so when a new server is deployed - its runs a script that sets up monitoring automatically - just need to change hostname in cnfig file
[12:24] <diplo> bah, to organised for me! :P
[12:24] <diplo> I've thought about that, and then thought I cba!
[12:25] <diplo> Takes me a min to copy and change a config and restart service
[12:25] <bubuz> sed 's/KCLIVEUBWS1/KCLIVEUBWS2/w KCLIVEUBWS2.cfg' KCLIVEUBWS1.cfg >> gives me a new file for WS2.cfg but its only got the ammended lines in it, not whole config file
[12:25] <diplo> I only take time to script stuff when it takes me lot's of minutes/hours to do something that after a few hours of scripting will make it that much quicker
[12:26] <bubuz> yeah i was there diplo, but now I can be arsed
[12:26] <bubuz> one more thing i dont need to think about - got enough on
[12:26] <bubuz> lol
[12:26] <diplo> heh, seems I'm on track to change then
[12:26] <diplo> :P
[12:26] <bubuz> :p
[12:26] <bubuz> but i need to get this working first - doh.
[12:26] <bubuz> so simple and yet i cant do it
[12:28] <bubuz> also useful for vhsot files
[12:28] <bubuz> in fact - jsut damn useful! :)
[12:28] <oimon> debian administrator's handbook is released :D
[12:29] <oimon> torrent files are available
[12:29] <bubuz> nice - will buy a copy of that though
[12:29] <bubuz> for some reason i torrent/newsbin everything
[12:30] <bubuz> but i cant get enough actual books when it comes to sys stuff
[12:30] <oimon> if you want the electronic copy, then you can donate any amount you like
[12:31] <oimon> (the torrent files are official ones, i didn't mean that you should pirate stuff)
[12:31] <bubuz> ahhh
[12:31] <bubuz> ofc
[12:31] <bubuz> i will buy the book anyways
[12:36] <bubuz> any ideas to help guys?
[12:38] <oimon> does in-place substitution work?
[12:38] <oimon> copy the file and do sed -i ?
[12:41] <bubuz> nope
[12:41] <bubuz> :/
[12:42] <bubuz> ah yes
[12:42] <bubuz> but it has changed the original
[12:42] <bubuz> but got it! :)
[12:42] <bubuz> ledge
[12:43] <bubuz> cp -p KCLIVEUBWS1.cfg KCLIVEUBWS4.cfg | sed -i 's/KCLIVEUBWS1/KCLIVEUBWS4/w KCLIVEUBWS4.cfg' KCLIVEUBWS4.cfg
[12:46] <bubuz> ah bollocks no it hasn't worked
[12:48] <dwatkins> cp doesn't output anything
[12:59] <oimon> replace | with ;
[13:02] <oimon> facebook is getting an app store argggh
[13:02] <shauno> slightly awkward; got my raspberry pi. don't have a normal usb keyboard anymore :(
[13:02] <oimon> usb bluetooth adapter?
[13:04] <shauno> looks like I'll just have to be patient a day longer and visit the office tomorrow
[13:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Jeez Unity gets on my tits.
[13:08] <diplo> heh, moi aussi :)
[13:08] <diplo> Going to give Cinnamon a go again tomorrow once my laptop psu turns up
[13:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> I now have a maximised Thunderbird, that has somehow got shunted left a bit so the window control buttons are not visible
[13:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> Can't un maximise
[13:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> :-(
[13:09] <oimon> press alt key and drag window
[13:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> I keep finding windows are moving randomly around between desktops and appear hanging over the edge of other desktops
[13:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> oimon: It is maximised.
[13:10] <oimon> TheOpenSourcerer, unmaximising with alt click is possible
[13:10] <oimon> just done it with tb
[13:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ah - that worked. Thanks.
[13:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Switching between workspaces is getting really annoying. It is very slow sometimes and if you have multiple windows of one app open on different workspaces the launcher doesn't know what to do when I click so it does nothing ;-)
[13:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Then it is hard to find the app window I was looking for,
[13:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> grumble grumble grumble....
[13:16] <oimon> opening the dash seems quite slow after sometime of uptime
[13:16] <oimon> ah, i had a rogue process running
[13:17] <oimon> k13009
[13:17] <oimon> woops, that was me trying to kill picasa since unity doesn't know where it is
[13:20] <head_victim> 3
[13:20] <oimon> 2
[13:24] <MooDoo> :)
[13:28] <ali1234> dwatkins: acceleration is two part, the first part is enabled, the second part is disabled, this is what causes the problem. disabling it does make videos run slowly however that was always the case prior to 11.2. acceleration has never worked properly on any hardware that i know of.
[13:30] <dwatkins> ali1234: which file are the two parts controlled by, is this a case of the graphics driver using acceleration in general in X versus flash acceleration controlled by the mms.cfg?
[13:30] <ali1234> no
[13:30] <ali1234> flash has two independent types of acceleration
[13:30] <ali1234> decoding, and then drawing to the screen
[13:31] <dwatkins> I only see one tick-box in the settings menu
[13:31] <ali1234> yeah that's because you can only control one of them
[13:31] <ali1234> the box in settings disables everything
[13:32] <ali1234> afaik, the decoding part is disabled by default everywhere on linux
[13:32] <ali1234> you can enable it through mms.cfg
[13:32] <ali1234> if you have decoding and drawing both enabled, you don't get reversed colors
[13:32] <ali1234> but the decoding is so buggy that flash crashes constantly
[13:33] <dwatkins> how is the performance if both are disabled?
[13:33] <ali1234> otoh if you disable both decoding and drawing, you also don;t get reversed colours, but then fullscreen mode becomes unworkable due to high cpu requirements
[13:33] <ali1234> just like it always was in 10 and earlier
[13:34] <ali1234> the default is to enable one of them and disable the other one
[13:34] <ali1234> this gives a small increase in performance and the reversed colours
[13:35] <dwatkins> so with the default settings , the bug is observed?
[13:35] <ali1234> yes
[13:35] <ali1234> only on nvidia cards though, because acceleration is not supported with anything else
[13:35] <ali1234> the latest ati driver is supposed t support vdpau as well
[13:35] <dwatkins> I suspect hardware acceleration on linux is technically unsupported by flash
[13:36] <ali1234> well, we know it opens libvdpau
[13:36] <ali1234> the best workaround discovered so far is to s/libvdpau/libxdpau/g on the binary
[13:36] <dwatkins> the suggestion is to 'unistall the VDPAU library'
[13:36] <dwatkins> *uninstall
[13:37] <ali1234> doing that will break all the software that uses it correctly like mplayer, mythtv etc
[13:37] <dwatkins> is there a list of dependencies which I can pass on?
[13:37] <ali1234> dependencies?
[13:37] <dwatkins> software which currently uses libvdpau
[13:38] <ali1234> no
[13:38] <dwatkins> i.e. to point out that this suggestion will break these apps
[13:38] <ali1234> it won't break them
[13:38] <oimon> i just crashed chromium :D
[13:38] <ali1234> it will just make them go to software mode
[13:39] <ali1234> and therefore as slow as flash it
[13:39] <ali1234> well, maybe not that slow
[13:39] <dwatkins> right, so it will have a negative impact on multiple other packages which use hardware acceleration
[13:39] <ali1234> yes
[13:39] <dwatkins> understood
[13:39] <ali1234> at least mplayer, vlc and mythtv can use it
[13:40] <ali1234> but i don't know if they go though the library or what
[13:40] <ali1234> also vaapi can use it
[13:40] <ali1234> which is a general purpose api that supports different hardware
[13:41] <ali1234> vaapi is the api they should have started with
[13:42] <dwatkins> I see
[13:43] <dwatkins> is libvdpau installed for any NVidia card for which the 'official' driver is installed?
[13:48] <ali1234> yes
[13:49] <dwatkins> thanks, I'll pass this on. Unfortunately I don't know if they'll listen to me, but I'll do what I can.
[14:03] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jo Shields] Sleeping with the enemy: my life with Windows Phone - http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/407/
[14:09] <directhex> le blog!
[14:09] <ali1234> hilarious
[14:24] <oimon> directhex, just tell me when you buy another phone,
[14:24] <directhex> it'll be a while
[14:25] <oimon> well you just murder each one you buy :D
[14:25] <oimon> by murder, i mean murder the whole company
[14:25] <oimon> to be fair, nokia were already on their way
[14:26] <oimon> please don't buy an asus transformer, as i'd quite like to see those survive
[14:27] <directhex> oimon, as i said elsewhere, "this is the longest i've gone between 'happy' and 'i want to murder some engineers' with a smartphone"
[14:28] <directhex> oimon, somehow htc survived me owning a hero
[14:29] <directhex> smartphone wise, i've had in my possession... htc hero, nokia n900, nokia n9, nokia lumia 800, hp pre 3
[14:29] <directhex> i think that's it
[14:32] <directhex> in terms of dump phones, what have i had... hm...
[14:33] <buzz_> my best phone was my nec p3
[14:33] <buzz_> http://www.retrofones.com/images/SV206764.JPG
[14:33] <buzz_> :)
[14:33] <directhex> nec db4000, motorola startac, nokia 8110, nokia 7110, samsung d600, samsung d800, samsung t100, lg viewty
[14:33] <directhex> don't think i've missed any
[14:35] <directhex> the d600 and nokia 7110 were the best of those, imho
[14:35] <oimon> in the unity dash apps lens, why can't i search for sipcalc? i can find it on software centre..why not the install from the internet bit of the dash?
[14:35] <oimon> happy desire owner for 2yrs
[14:36] <dwatkins> haha OpenSuSE 12.1 is codenamed 'asparagus'
[14:37] <directhex> wifey has an htc sensation
[14:37] <stuphi> Does anybody have a suggestion for an easy to use Exif tag editor? My wife has scanned a load of old photo's and it would be nice to tag them.
[14:37] <directhex> dwatkins, not as good as fedora beefy miracle
[14:37]  * dwatkins sniggers
[14:39] <dwatkins> oh my, I have xdm, as opposed to gdm as the greeter, it's like going back in time 20 years
[14:39] <gordonjcp> heh
[14:40] <directhex> dwatkins, liar.
[14:40] <directhex> Initial release	October 1988
[14:40] <directhex> 24 hyears!
[14:40] <dwatkins> wow, now I feel old ;)
[14:41] <MooDoo> dwatkins: I AM OLD :)
[14:42] <dwatkins> MooDoo: were you born before 1977?
[14:42] <MooDoo> dwatkins: yup
[14:43] <diplo> Moi Aussi :)
[14:43] <dwatkins> ah ok, not quite as young as me perhaps, then
[14:43] <MooDoo> dwatkins: i was 40 last month
[14:44] <dwatkins> my brothers are about that age, they used to beat me at risk (they're twins) then battle each other until the wee hours
[14:44] <stuphi> 1972, a fine vintage!
[14:45] <diplo> Hmm, moodoo is old :)
[14:45]  * DJones sticks up for MooDoo not being old
[14:45] <MooDoo> :D
[14:46] <oimon> gmail tab using 250MB, that's just cheeky
[14:50] <dogmatic69> oimon: try fb
[14:50] <oimon> yeah closed that tab
[14:50] <dogmatic69> my gmail is at 120 and fb is 250
[14:50] <oimon> that uses compiz too
[14:51] <dogmatic69> how does it use compiz?
[14:51] <oimon> dunno, but flashing tabs on chromium tax X server and compiz
[14:52] <diplo> Its the javascript heavy sites that seem to cause the issue, never looked into why but really ought to
[14:52] <dogmatic69> same for twitter
[14:53] <oimon> wonder whether to chance firefox again
[14:53] <dogmatic69> chrome pvt memory -> 3,130,572k :)
[14:53] <oimon> i just closed about 40 tabs
[14:54] <dogmatic69> :D
[14:55] <dogmatic69> I only start closing them when I cant see the favicon any more
[14:55] <oimon> same here
[14:56] <oimon> firefox used to cope better
[14:56] <oimon> then it got worse
[14:56] <oimon> and slower
[14:57] <dogmatic69> ye, I used to use ff. it just got so slow it was virtually unusable
[14:57] <oimon> almost going back tho
[14:58] <oimon> i prefer the password management
[14:58] <oimon> chromium i never seem to remember passwords
[14:58] <hamitron> choosing a browser seems a major headache atm :/
[14:59] <dogmatic69> oimon: ff still requires a restart after adding a plugin :/
[14:59] <diplo> It's the plugins that slowed FF for me
[14:59] <diplo> Tried it vanilla for a while, so much better
[14:59] <dogmatic69> even with no plugins it is a dog
[14:59] <diplo> But I love my Firebug
[15:00] <diplo> Hmm, fine for me with none really
[15:00] <dogmatic69> given a few weeks you get used to chrome inspector, I still prefer firebug but chrome one works well
[15:00] <oimon> adblock i think is the only one i use
[15:00] <diplo> yeah i use chrome as well, but I prefer the console of Firebug I think
[15:01] <diplo> I could probably in time find / use Chrome better, just not tried :)
[15:01] <diplo> FF for developing in 90% of the time, and personal pages are open in Chromium
[15:21] <diplo> stuphi: Have you looked at exiftool ?
[15:21] <diplo> Sure I've used it in a script before
[15:22] <diplo> http://exiftool.berndvogelgesang.de/  <-- some examples
[15:23] <diplo> http://u88.n24.queensu.ca/exiftool/forum/index.php?topic=1754.0  Example of a bash script
[16:02] <s-fox> I have to go, goodbye
[16:07] <Gary> miss you long time
[16:09] <bigcalm> OMG, it's a Gary
[16:14]  * Gary nibbles bigcalm 
[16:15] <bigcalm> Oo, that tickles
[16:15] <bigcalm> How's life Gary?
[16:16] <Gary> busy!
[16:17] <Gary> my boss today has lent me mon-wed to a local school to supervise their new IT Tech in his work based working interview!
[16:17] <Gary> I feel like a loan piece of equipment!
[16:18] <miraculous> aww
[16:18] <miraculous> you are but a piece of fine meat to be shared amongst the schools of essexia
[16:19] <Gary> I'm going to be late on purpose, as miraculous has this wonderful idea i'll get me a bit of corp punishment!
[16:20] <bigcalm> HAha
[16:21] <bigcalm> Are you taking your own cane, just in case they don't have one?
[16:21] <bigcalm> Ahem, sorry. Wrong channel for this :)
[16:22] <miraculous> *grin*
[16:23] <bigcalm> !ohmy > bigcalm
[17:29] <hamitron> !kernel
[17:30] <hamitron> !Mainline
[17:48] <Azelphur> anyone know how to work around unity top panel showing through full screen applications?
[17:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> How about $ sudo apt-get purge unity*
[17:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> ;-)
[17:48] <Azelphur> lol
[17:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> Seriously considering it.
[17:49] <TheOpenSourcerer> It needs a *lot* of work to be what I would call production ready.
[17:49] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's more like an Alpha.
[17:51] <Azelphur> gah, yea stuff it I'll just kill unity
[17:51]  * Azelphur sighs \o/
[17:52] <Azelphur> it seems to come back like the undead zombie
[17:57] <brobostigon> what is the command, to count accurances, of a certain string, lets say in a text file?
[18:28] <KrimZon> at what version does ubuntu start to come with gcc 4.5?
[18:28] <jacobw2> evening
[18:29] <KrimZon> hi
[18:29] <KrimZon> or rather just have 4.5 available
[18:30] <jacobw2> why do you need 4.5 specifically?
[18:57] <daubers> 2Evening
[19:03] <Azelphur> Rumor mill is saying RMS just collapsed while doing a talk at the UPC conference, possible heart attack:(
[19:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> I saw the twitpics  - Anyway off to watch some telly.
[19:05] <gordonjcp> Azelphur: and he's such a fit healthy guy, too!
[19:05] <Azelphur> xD
[19:05] <directhex> https://twitter.com/#!/directhex/status/200658712770248705 ?
[19:06] <Azelphur> lol
[19:16] <jacobw2> poor guy
[19:34] <KrimZon> jacobw2, c++11 lambdas
[20:15] <KrimZon> I wanted to make a c#-delegate-like template, where I could automatically add and remove pointers to a type of object and then with a single line call the same method with the same parameters on all contained objects
[20:17] <KrimZon> not quite a delegate but it was to help me out implementing an observer pattern
[21:12] <mattt> HERRO
[21:17] <directhex> O HERRO HANS BRIX!
[21:18] <diplo-> Anyone about who uses byobu ?
[21:19] <diplo-> Just trying to use it, by either byobu or byobu -S name
[21:19] <diplo-> But keeps scrolling the details bar across the session
[21:19] <diplo->  uî¿  12.04  0:*                     1d3h 1.73 2.5GHz 463M37% 2012-05-10 22:1
[21:19] <diplo-> Characters fubared as well
[21:19] <diplo-> Anyone got any ideas ?
[21:39] <popey> diplo-: what font does your terminal use?
[21:40] <diplo-> Good point :)
[21:40] <diplo-> On Win7, courier new
[21:40] <diplo-> Standard putty settings
[21:40] <directhex> which encoding?
[21:41] <directhex> utf-8 or iso8859-1?
[21:41] <diplo> Pretty sure utf8, to secs
[21:41] <diplo> 8859-1, I lied
[21:42] <diplo> never changed before though
[21:42] <diplo> works fine on my natty box with same software, this is on precise server
[21:49] <diplo> Liked your post on Phones btw directhex, still not sure I'd buy a Windows phone
[21:50] <directhex> diplo: i'm not a salesman, i was just sharing my experiences
[21:50] <diplo> Had the 5/6 versions and I was never impressed and I guess I can't get that feeling out that somethings shite
[21:50] <diplo> heh I know, I'm same as you.. I buy stuff if it works not because it's Open etc
[21:51] <directhex> diplo: i'm not sure if there's anything in common with WM under the hood. there's nothing in common above it.
[21:51] <diplo> yeah, waiting for my brother to get one to have a tinker
[21:51] <diplo> But he went and bought himself an S2
[21:51] <directhex> diplo: android isn't Open in any meaningful sense either :p
[21:51] <diplo> I meant in general but yeah
[21:52] <directhex> the way i work with phones is "how long from first boot to wishing to murder the engineers responsible". that counter is a measure of, overall, how well a phone's good points outweigh its inevitable suck
[21:53] <diplo> heh, well me and a friend had smartphones for work for years and yet we both until this year have had Nokia 6230's as main phones
[21:53] <diplo> Because they just worked and nearly always had signal, whereas the smart phones in the same areas didn't
[21:54] <directhex> in terms of smartphones, i've had.. hang on
[21:54] <directhex> nope, no in scrollback, must have been on the laptop
[21:54] <diplo> heh
[21:55] <directhex> htc hero (android), nokia n900 (maemo), nokia n9 (depends who you ask), nokia lumia 800 (wp7), hp pre 3 (webos)
[21:55] <directhex> so most smartphone oses
[21:56] <diplo> Mine were all Windows up till this Android one
[21:56] <diplo> I had the Tytn/Tytn2/Touch/Touch HD and 2 others that I've forgot names of atm
[21:57] <Azelphur> I've had a G1 and a G2 :D
[21:57] <directhex> WM6 was terrible. htc did the best they could to pretend it was usable
[21:57] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:57] <directhex> Azelphur: the g2 is the hero, right?
[21:57] <Azelphur> no
[21:58] <directhex> t-mobile used the "g2" name to rebadge several different htc phones, depending on country
[21:59] <directhex> "g2 touch" is hero ion the uk. "g2" is desire z in the US
[22:00] <Azelphur> desire z is eu branding not us :P
[22:00] <directhex> er, yeah, that's my point
[22:01] <directhex> the htc model codenamed "vision" was sold by t-mobile in the US as "G2", but it's not the same device as codename "hero", sold by t-mobile in the UK as "G2 touch"
[22:01] <directhex> not by a long shot
[22:02] <diplo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/995412
[22:02] <directhex> so we still haven't established which bloody phone you have, by virtue of using confusing regionally-varied model names
[22:02] <diplo> think that's my issue
[22:02] <directhex> specific to one carrier
[22:07] <diplo> this was the fix directhex
[22:07] <diplo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/952724
[22:07] <diplo> :/
[22:07] <diplo> hash out the logo part