| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance | ||
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
| JonathanD | morning | 09:38 |
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| rmg51 | morning | 09:42 |
| JonathanD | Hey rmg51 | 09:54 |
| rmg51 | o/ | 09:54 |
| JonathanD | waltman: poke. | 13:31 |
| waltman | JonathanD: puke | 13:31 |
| waltman | I've got to leave for the train in a few minutes. | 13:31 |
| JonathanD | waltman: you have a mac display adapter thingy, right? | 13:32 |
| waltman | Yes, mini-dvi2vga | 13:32 |
| JonathanD | I don't know if thats what this is... | 13:32 |
| JonathanD | I guess it's a 2008 macbook something or other. | 13:32 |
| JonathanD | screen goes all white. brief research indicates it may be a failed nvidia card. | 13:33 |
| waltman | The dongle from my old 2004-ish powerbook had a bigger connector on the mac end | 13:33 |
| waltman | I've got to run. | 13:33 |
| JonathanD | this is maybe 3/4 the width of USB | 13:33 |
| JonathanD | ok, catch you later. | 13:33 |
| InHisName1 | mid morning to u all | 13:36 |
| JonathanD | hi | 13:37 |
| JonathanD | I think the disk is shot. | 13:52 |
| JonathanD | click click click click | 13:52 |
| JonathanD | disk is dead. | 13:55 |
| JonathanD | boots with a random linux cd in it | 13:55 |
| waltman | Sorry, I had the names wrong. The dongle for my old powerbook was mini-dvi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-DVI). The one on my macbook is mini-displayport ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_DisplayPort). | 14:39 |
| JonathanD | waltman: it wasnt that anyway. | 14:39 |
| JonathanD | It displayed the ubuntu disc well enough. | 14:39 |
| waltman | Oh well. | 14:39 |
| JonathanD | It needs a new hdd. | 14:39 |
| waltman | Sorry to hear about your head hd. | 14:39 |
| JonathanD | But if I get her one, how exactly do I go about getting OSX on it? | 14:39 |
| waltman | s/head/dead/ | 14:39 |
| waltman | What is "it"? | 14:40 |
| JonathanD | macbook 2008, I guess | 14:40 |
| JonathanD | theres a 2008 in the string of copyright and patent notices. | 14:40 |
| waltman | OK, so you've got a 2008 macbook with a dead hd, and you want to install a new hd and put OSX on it? | 14:41 |
| JonathanD | That sounds reasonable to me. | 14:41 |
| waltman | Be warned that replacing the HD might be extremely tedious, and it might be next to impossible to put it all back together. | 14:42 |
| JonathanD | I already have the old one out. | 14:42 |
| waltman | Ah. | 14:42 |
| JonathanD | it was under hte battery cover. | 14:42 |
| JonathanD | in fact I already have a new one in. | 14:42 |
| waltman | You might be able to do a net install of lion. | 14:43 |
| waltman | Or maybe you could restore the data from time machine? | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | She would have had to do the time machine stuff before, though, aye? | 14:43 |
| JonathanD | she says she doesn't have any backups. | 14:43 |
| waltman | Well, yes. | 14:43 |
| waltman | Who is "she"? | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | so unless this thing has a super secret backup location, there is nothing to restore :) | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | the laptops owner | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | someone here at work's sister. | 14:44 |
| waltman | What version of osx was on it? | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | no idea :) | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | nobody knows anything. | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | including what osx actually is. | 14:44 |
| waltman | I believe at this point you need to find an OSX install DVD. | 14:44 |
| JonathanD | boss might have one. | 14:45 |
| JonathanD | what versions will work? | 14:45 |
| waltman | in 2008 it should be intel, right? | 14:45 |
| waltman | Lion might work, Snow Leopard almost certainly will. | 14:45 |
| waltman | if it was lion, there might be a recovery partition hidden somewhere. I don't really know how that works. | 14:46 |
| waltman | This is getting to be the limit of what I know. You might want to try asking on a mac forum... | 14:47 |
| JonathanD | waltman: disk looks toast | 14:47 |
| JonathanD | really toast. | 14:47 |
| JonathanD | click click click click grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr toast | 14:48 |
| JonathanD | waltman: I have a snow leapard disk, I shall try that. | 14:48 |
| waltman | sounds like a plan | 14:48 |
| waltman | If she paid for lion, she should be able to reinstall that from the app store in snow leopard | 14:49 |
| waltman | You'll need her AppleID for that. | 14:49 |
| JonathanD | Tried freezing the disk :P | 14:49 |
| JonathanD | the clicks are quieter now | 14:49 |
| waltman | The Snow Leopard disk? I doubt that will help. :) | 14:50 |
| JonathanD | no, the hdd | 14:50 |
| JonathanD | It's dead Jim. | 14:50 |
| Resistance | :O I KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM! | 14:51 |
| JonathanD | I should hope you do. | 14:51 |
| Resistance | indeed | 14:51 |
| Resistance | you forgot a comma though | 14:51 |
| Resistance | </grammar nazi>? | 14:51 |
| JonathanD | Resistance: it was lost due to data corruption. | 14:51 |
| Resistance | :P | 14:52 |
| Resistance | btw, did i mention yet that i despise ASP.NET? | 14:52 |
| JonathanD | waltman: I think he was using this snow lepoard disk as a coaster. | 14:53 |
| JonathanD | or as a target for a very underpowered gun. | 14:53 |
| JonathanD | hope it works :) | 14:53 |
| waltman | JonathanD: oh dear | 14:53 |
| JonathanD | people treat computers so awful | 14:55 |
| JonathanD | waltman: is that her itunes login info? | 14:57 |
| JonathanD | Or something completely different. | 14:57 |
| Resistance | if i had a snow leopard disk, i'd take it out to the firing range, and just shoot the thing :p | 14:59 |
| * Resistance is strongly against Mac OSes | 14:59 | |
| JonathanD | Resistance: I am not a mac fan either :P | 14:59 |
| * Resistance pulls out his .45 and begins cleaning it | 15:00 | |
| JonathanD | this is the first time I've tried to fix one. | 15:00 |
| Resistance | ugh, this thing needs cleaning badly :/ | 15:00 |
| waltman | JonathanD: yes, but it's used for all sorts of things. It's basically your username with apple. | 15:07 |
| JonathanD | waltman: thanks :) | 15:08 |
| JonathanD | you've been quite helpful. | 15:08 |
| JonathanD | Why do they have to make it so hard to force eject a disk... | 15:08 |
| JonathanD | grrr | 15:08 |
| waltman | I believe you can use the pin/paperclip technique | 15:15 |
| JonathanD | where... | 15:15 |
| JonathanD | theres no hole | 15:15 |
| JonathanD | apparently holding down the touchpad while turning the laptop on and counting to 11 works. | 15:15 |
| JonathanD | I'm not sure why I had to take my left shoe off, first | 15:15 |
| waltman | hah | 15:15 |
| waltman | Speaking of which, I'm in the process of installing big system updates that hit snow leopard and lion today. | 15:16 |
| JonathanD | now with a fresh drive, it boots to a white screen with a blinking grey folder with a ? mark inside. | 15:16 |
| JonathanD | Linux errors are not cryptic. This is cryptic. | 15:17 |
| waltman | There's a way to view the console, but I forget how you do it. Cmd-something. | 15:17 |
| JonathanD | This apparently means "No operating system found" | 15:17 |
| JonathanD | by the way. | 15:17 |
| Resistance | JonathanD: now you know why people hate the Mac OSX support :P | 15:17 |
| JonathanD | Which is fine, it's a blank disk. | 15:17 |
| Resistance | since their solution is "Bring it in to the store" | 15:17 |
| Resistance | :P | 15:17 |
| JonathanD | "No operating system found" is a lot easier to google than "the screen is white, and once a second, a grey folder with a question mark inside flashes" | 15:18 |
| Resistance | ;p | 15:19 |
| Resistance | :P * | 15:19 |
| waltman | I thought you were going to boot off the snow leopard disk | 15:19 |
| JonathanD | waltman: I'm cleaning it. | 15:19 |
| JonathanD | with a disc resurfacer... | 15:19 |
| waltman | That blinking gray folding with the ? is Apple's way of asking how you expect to boot up off a blank disk. :) | 15:20 |
| JonathanD | waltman: Sure, but why not just say that :P | 15:20 |
| JonathanD | the whole "users don't need to know about this stuff" irks me. | 15:20 |
| Resistance | and now you know why i routinely buy Mac OS CDs off of friends after they upgraded, then go directly from there to the gun range :P | 15:21 |
| waltman | Well, like I said, users *can* see the console during bootup. I just don't remember the keys that bring it up. | 15:24 |
| waltman | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1533?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US # aha, it was cmd-v | 15:27 |
| ChinnoDog | bacon | 15:41 |
| JonathanD | that disc is not usable. | 15:59 |
| JonathanD | asking around hte office to see if anyone else has one, now :) | 15:59 |
| InHisName1 | I got an ISO but may not be good enough for you. | 16:10 |
| JonathanD | InHisName1: aren't they rather large? | 18:58 |
| JonathanD | Multi-gig? | 18:58 |
| cythes | Any one here have issues with DVD drives not mounting? | 20:10 |
| === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance | ||
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