=== Resistance is now known as EvilResistance === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance [09:38] morning [09:42] morning [09:54] Hey rmg51 [09:54] o/ [13:31] waltman: poke. [13:31] JonathanD: puke [13:31] I've got to leave for the train in a few minutes. [13:32] waltman: you have a mac display adapter thingy, right? [13:32] Yes, mini-dvi2vga [13:32] I don't know if thats what this is... [13:32] I guess it's a 2008 macbook something or other. [13:33] screen goes all white. brief research indicates it may be a failed nvidia card. [13:33] The dongle from my old 2004-ish powerbook had a bigger connector on the mac end [13:33] I've got to run. [13:33] this is maybe 3/4 the width of USB [13:33] ok, catch you later. [13:36] mid morning to u all [13:37] hi [13:52] I think the disk is shot. [13:52] click click click click [13:55] disk is dead. [13:55] boots with a random linux cd in it [14:39] Sorry, I had the names wrong. The dongle for my old powerbook was mini-dvi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-DVI). The one on my macbook is mini-displayport ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_DisplayPort). [14:39] waltman: it wasnt that anyway. [14:39] It displayed the ubuntu disc well enough. [14:39] Oh well. [14:39] It needs a new hdd. [14:39] Sorry to hear about your head hd. [14:39] But if I get her one, how exactly do I go about getting OSX on it? [14:39] s/head/dead/ [14:40] What is "it"? [14:40] macbook 2008, I guess [14:40] theres a 2008 in the string of copyright and patent notices. [14:41] OK, so you've got a 2008 macbook with a dead hd, and you want to install a new hd and put OSX on it? [14:41] That sounds reasonable to me. [14:42] Be warned that replacing the HD might be extremely tedious, and it might be next to impossible to put it all back together. [14:42] I already have the old one out. [14:42] Ah. [14:42] it was under hte battery cover. [14:42] in fact I already have a new one in. [14:43] You might be able to do a net install of lion. [14:43] Or maybe you could restore the data from time machine? [14:43] She would have had to do the time machine stuff before, though, aye? [14:43] she says she doesn't have any backups. [14:43] Well, yes. [14:44] Who is "she"? [14:44] so unless this thing has a super secret backup location, there is nothing to restore :) [14:44] the laptops owner [14:44] someone here at work's sister. [14:44] What version of osx was on it? [14:44] no idea :) [14:44] nobody knows anything. [14:44] including what osx actually is. [14:44] I believe at this point you need to find an OSX install DVD. [14:45] boss might have one. [14:45] what versions will work? [14:45] in 2008 it should be intel, right? [14:45] Lion might work, Snow Leopard almost certainly will. [14:46] if it was lion, there might be a recovery partition hidden somewhere. I don't really know how that works. [14:47] This is getting to be the limit of what I know. You might want to try asking on a mac forum... [14:47] waltman: disk looks toast [14:47] really toast. [14:48] click click click click grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr toast [14:48] waltman: I have a snow leapard disk, I shall try that. [14:48] sounds like a plan [14:49] If she paid for lion, she should be able to reinstall that from the app store in snow leopard [14:49] You'll need her AppleID for that. [14:49] Tried freezing the disk :P [14:49] the clicks are quieter now [14:50] The Snow Leopard disk? I doubt that will help. :) [14:50] no, the hdd [14:50] It's dead Jim. [14:51] :O I KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM! [14:51] I should hope you do. [14:51] indeed [14:51] you forgot a comma though [14:51] ? [14:51] Resistance: it was lost due to data corruption. [14:52] :P [14:52] btw, did i mention yet that i despise ASP.NET? [14:53] waltman: I think he was using this snow lepoard disk as a coaster. [14:53] or as a target for a very underpowered gun. [14:53] hope it works :) [14:53] JonathanD: oh dear [14:55] people treat computers so awful [14:57] waltman: is that her itunes login info? [14:57] Or something completely different. [14:59] if i had a snow leopard disk, i'd take it out to the firing range, and just shoot the thing :p [14:59] * Resistance is strongly against Mac OSes [14:59] Resistance: I am not a mac fan either :P [15:00] * Resistance pulls out his .45 and begins cleaning it [15:00] this is the first time I've tried to fix one. [15:00] ugh, this thing needs cleaning badly :/ [15:07] JonathanD: yes, but it's used for all sorts of things. It's basically your username with apple. [15:08] waltman: thanks :) [15:08] you've been quite helpful. [15:08] Why do they have to make it so hard to force eject a disk... [15:08] grrr [15:15] I believe you can use the pin/paperclip technique [15:15] where... [15:15] theres no hole [15:15] apparently holding down the touchpad while turning the laptop on and counting to 11 works. [15:15] I'm not sure why I had to take my left shoe off, first [15:15] hah [15:16] Speaking of which, I'm in the process of installing big system updates that hit snow leopard and lion today. [15:16] now with a fresh drive, it boots to a white screen with a blinking grey folder with a ? mark inside. [15:17] Linux errors are not cryptic. This is cryptic. [15:17] There's a way to view the console, but I forget how you do it. Cmd-something. [15:17] This apparently means "No operating system found" [15:17] by the way. [15:17] JonathanD: now you know why people hate the Mac OSX support :P [15:17] Which is fine, it's a blank disk. [15:17] since their solution is "Bring it in to the store" [15:17] :P [15:18] "No operating system found" is a lot easier to google than "the screen is white, and once a second, a grey folder with a question mark inside flashes" [15:19] ;p [15:19] :P * [15:19] I thought you were going to boot off the snow leopard disk [15:19] waltman: I'm cleaning it. [15:19] with a disc resurfacer... [15:20] That blinking gray folding with the ? is Apple's way of asking how you expect to boot up off a blank disk. :) [15:20] waltman: Sure, but why not just say that :P [15:20] the whole "users don't need to know about this stuff" irks me. [15:21] and now you know why i routinely buy Mac OS CDs off of friends after they upgraded, then go directly from there to the gun range :P [15:24] Well, like I said, users *can* see the console during bootup. I just don't remember the keys that bring it up. [15:27] http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1533?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US # aha, it was cmd-v [15:41] bacon [15:59] that disc is not usable. [15:59] asking around hte office to see if anyone else has one, now :) [16:10] I got an ISO but may not be good enough for you. [18:58] InHisName1: aren't they rather large? [18:58] Multi-gig? [20:10] Any one here have issues with DVD drives not mounting? === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance