[00:00] <txomon|home> you can also use a hex dumper etc.
[00:00] <txomon|home> krababbel, why you all want to use ppas?
[00:00] <bACktRaCk5> i`m begenner on linux and i`ve tried to open it with the default text editor wich is KWrite..
[00:00] <bACktRaCk5> and doesn`t work
[00:00] <krababbel> txomon|home: oracle java is better supported by browser apps, and not available in ubuntu
[00:01] <bACktRaCk5> can u tell me a editor with can i open it to see
[00:01] <bACktRaCk5> pls
[00:01] <krababbel> tx then there are newer versions of certain applications, I guess it's like backporting, certainly convenient.
[00:02] <txomon|home> krababbel, well, you can try with the packet default-jdk etc.
[00:02] <txomon|home> it is from oracle
[00:03] <OerHeks> bACktRaCk5, what is the name of the file ? .bin .sh .run ?
[00:03] <txomon|home> bACktRaCk5, what are you trying to do? Do you know what you are really going to do with a bin editor? you know machine code?
[00:03] <txomon|home> OerHeks, binary as editor doesn't open it
[00:03] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: check out od and hexedit
[00:03] <bACktRaCk5> is just a file.. without extension.. on click right on the file and proprietes : at the Type is just Executable
[00:03] <J2> Reasking in case it got buried.... Resizing partitions caused my Ubuntu GRUB to tell me error: Unrecognized Filesystem and puts me into grub rescue. I am able to boot through SuperGRUB2 however. Is there any way i can restore my GRUB?
[00:04] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: but it's much easier to edit source code... what's the exe in question?
[00:04] <txomon|home> !grub2 J2
[00:04] <bACktRaCk5> txomon|home i just see what is in that file.. not edit .. just look in
[00:04] <txomon|home> !grub2  \ J2
[00:04] <txomon|home> !grub2  | J2
[00:04] <txomon|home> bACktRaCk5, so use what they told you, hexedit
[00:05] <bACktRaCk5> i trying to make a eggdrop arhive, and i want to see what is in the eggdrop file.. just see not edit
[00:05] <bACktRaCk5> ok
[00:05] <bACktRaCk5> apt-get install hexedit ?
[00:05] <txomon|home> I suppose so
[00:05] <bACktRaCk5> ok
[00:05] <txomon|home> !next
[00:05] <txomon|home> fuuu you dont have funny things
[00:05] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: there is also the 'strings' command that will output printable strings in any file (text,binary)
[00:06] <bACktRaCk5> hexedit is already the newest version.
[00:06] <bACktRaCk5> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[00:06] <bACktRaCk5> is allready installed?
[00:06] <krababbel> I installed openjdk7 but "sudo update-alternatives --config java" still  shows openjdk6 although it is removed. Libreoffice only shows Sun java6.
[00:06] <txomon|home> bACktRaCk5, what do you think?
[00:07] <bACktRaCk5> i think yes :) but where is ?:)))
[00:07] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: which hexedit
[00:07] <txomon|home> krababbel, you should _really_ not remove j6
[00:07] <bACktRaCk5> i told you.. scz me for this question.. but i`m really new on linux
[00:07] <doomrobo> can somebody help me, I have been experiencing key ghosting ever since I upgraded to Precise
[00:07] <doomrobo> I checked my keyboard to make sure
[00:07] <txomon|home> bACktRaCk5, just read the manual
[00:07] <krababbel> txomon|home: I thought I could safely install openjdk7 instead.
[00:07] <txomon|home> doomrobo, define it
[00:08] <txomon|home> krababbel, I am nearly sure that that would break things. There are a lot of programs just for J6
[00:08] <doomrobo> when I hold down a key in, say vim, it advances as normal but when I stop pressing the key, it simulates the keypress one more time one second after depressing the key
[00:08] <txomon|home> krababbel, you can specify the classpath etc.
[00:08] <doomrobo> I have no clue why
[00:09] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: a gui hex editor is easier than hexedit, i use okteta on kde
[00:09] <txomon|home> doomrobo, just vim? terminal refreshes correctly after resizing?
[00:09] <krababbel> txomon|home: thanks for the hint. I hoped libreoffice would support openjdk7 already, didn't check.
[00:09] <doomrobo> txomon|home, yes
[00:09] <doomrobo> and not only vim, it also happened in a similar way with mousewheel scrolling (a real mouse, not touchpad)
[00:09] <txomon|home> doomrobo, I had problems with terminal resizing, key shortcuts, etc.
[00:10] <Boohbah> bACktRaCk5: if you want to just dump the file and not edit it, 'od -x file.exe'
[00:10] <doomrobo> txomon|home, come to think of it, XChat has been lagging on showing new posts in IRC, it repeats the last one and takes a second to refresh the text
[00:10] <doomrobo> it almost looks like tearing, only very slow
[00:10] <doomrobo> txomon|home, so how'd you fix it?
[00:11] <^Mike\b> Do I need to install some package to get my HUD to start returning results? Right now it doesn't *do* anything
[00:12] <txomon|home> doomrobo, I would fill a bug like this : ubuntu-bug xchat ; ubuntu-bug gnome-terminal
[00:12] <doomrobo> it's terminator
[00:12] <txomon|home> whatever
[00:12] <doomrobo> but it doesn't matter
[00:12] <txomon|home> ^Mike\b, ?
[00:13] <txomon|home> !hud
[00:13] <txomon|home> ^Mike\b, see what ubottu said
[00:14] <doomrobo> what they don't tell you is that screen-switching is a bitch with HUD enabled
[00:14] <doomrobo> screen-switching in terminator
[00:14] <doomrobo> that is
[00:14] <krababbel> doomrobo: I've had problems in irssi too with gnome terminal. LXterminal works fine.
[00:14] <doomrobo> hmm
[00:15] <^Mike\b> doomrobo: not just that - ALT is... y'know... ALT. It is used for just about every key combination ever, why that was used as the key binding is beyond moronic
[00:15] <txomon|home> krababbel, did it randomly disconnect?
[00:15]  * ^Mike\b suggests firing the entire ayatana team
[00:15] <doomrobo> ^Mike\b, I wonder how the Emacs users feel
[00:15] <Ne0> ebati 6o narod tuka
[00:15] <Ne0> :)
[00:15] <megame> ima se sa `akeri
[00:16] <doomrobo> semimase
[00:16] <krababbel> txomon|home: no, the display wouldn't work correctly, when switching channels
[00:16] <Ne0> ishte
[00:16] <Ne0> tiq
[00:16] <txomon|home> krababbel, I think is because of the key shortcuts
[00:16] <Ne0> tuka
[00:16] <Ne0> jivi hora ima li
[00:16] <Ne0> ili samo bncta
[00:16] <FloodBot1> Ne0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <OerHeks> !bg
[00:17] <megame> Ne0: do kolkoto znam nema bnc-ta a samo useri sa
[00:17] <Ne0> !uk
[00:17] <Ne0> heheh
[00:17] <Ne0> baq papla4 tuka
[00:18] <bazhang> Ne0, stop that
[00:18] <smoono> so tired
[00:18] <Ne0> bazhang ?
[00:18] <Ne0> wtf
[00:18] <doomrobo> damn, it's worse than I thought: I'm getting the same behavior in xterm
[00:18] <bazhang> Ne0, watch the language. /msg ubottu , and stay on topic
[00:18] <txomon|home> Ne0, are you Japanese?
[00:18] <dasyogi> hi need some help  system settings
[00:18] <txomon|home> dasyogi, !ask
[00:19] <vfw> dasyogi: Can you be more specific?
[00:19] <smoono> 0.0
[00:19] <dasyogi> backlight on my laptop always is set at 100%
[00:19] <Ne0> bazhang fr0m wh3re u r
[00:19] <dasyogi> the slider under settings never remembers my choice
[00:19] <bazhang> !ot | Ne0
[00:19] <vfw> dasyogi: So, are you wanting to turn it down?
[00:19] <krababbel> txomon|home: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664858 seems to be due to my nvidia card too
[00:19] <dasyogi> correct
[00:19] <Ne0> tva e bot :)
[00:20] <doomrobo> krababbel, I'm having similar problems with my AMD driver
[00:20] <vfw> dasyogi: Do you know how to use the f-keys?
[00:20] <^Mike\b> txomon|home: I don't really want to discuss the HUD, I want it to work. I press ALT and start typing, and no completions ever show up - in any application. Am I using it wrong? Is it supposed to not do anything?
[00:20] <doomrobo> krababbel, *ATI
[00:20] <vfw> dasyogi: Do you know how to use the function-keys?
[00:20] <krababbel> txomon|home: doomrobo " we have to invent entirely new GL extensions" is the last post
[00:20] <dasyogi> yes they do not work
[00:20] <doomrobo> god dammit
[00:20] <krababbel> intel also
[00:20] <doomrobo> why?!
[00:20] <doomrobo> I can't use this anymore
[00:20] <doomrobo> but I don't like fedora1
[00:20] <doomrobo> *!
[00:20] <txomon|home> ^Mike\b, no idea, just know that key shortcuts can be giving you problems, but no idea
[00:20] <vfw> dasyogi: That's a bit strange.  Don't know what to make of that...
[00:21] <txomon|home> krababbel, lol
[00:21] <vfw> dasyogi: What is the make and model of your Laptop?
[00:21] <dasyogi> vfw: I tries setting the baclight to level 6 but once again it didn't work
[00:21] <dasyogi> hp pavilion dv6
[00:21] <krababbel> txomon|home: Well I need shortcuts anyway. In virtualbox there were no problems by the way. :)
[00:22] <krababbel> doomrobo: you could install ubuntu in a vm just for those terminal sessions
[00:22] <vfw> dasyogi: What do you have installed on it?
[00:22] <txomon|home> krababbel, I will stand in 11.10 till they resolve those sort of things...
[00:22] <doomrobo> hahahano
[00:22] <txomon|home> well, I am going to bed now. bb!
[00:22] <Stanley00> dasyogi: yep, I have that issue too, you can use rc.local to set it to some lower :D
[00:22] <vfw> dasyogi: (what OS?)
[00:22] <dasyogi> ubuntu 12.04
[00:23] <dasyogi> Stanley00: is it permanent?
[00:23] <dasyogi> vfw: Ubuntu 12.04
[00:23] <Stanley00> dasyogi: yes, everytime you boot your system
[00:23] <KingKatari> what is the name of the MySQL package for ubuntu server12.04
[00:24] <KingKatari> err the mysql server package
[00:24] <vfw> dasyogi: Go into BIOS settings and see if you see somethig to do with function keys. Maybe something there [disabled]?
[00:24] <J2> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[00:24] <J2> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
[00:24] <J2> Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:24] <J2> Any ideas?
[00:25] <dasyogi> vfw: i have a dual boot Win7 so it's not the BIOS settings
[00:25] <vfw> dasyogi: Just did a search, this looks interesting:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/92018/swapping-function-and-special-keys-on-hp-pavilion-dv6
[00:26] <razelda> I got ubuntu 12.04, before I upgraded I mounted a USB HD formated it to Ext4 then I did my upgrade Now every time Boot my laptop I get this error stating that my sdb1 wasn't able to mount and to ether Press S to skip, M to mount it Manually or to Retry, for now i've been telling it to skip is there anyway that i can fix this so I stop getting the error when i boot up my laptop
[00:26] <dasyogi> thanks vfw
[00:27] <vfw> dasyogi: Or:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503813
[00:27] <dasyogi> Stanley00: what instructions do you add to rc.local to adjust brightness?
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> J2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254
[00:27] <Jordan_U> J2: That warning shouldn't cause any problems. Can you boot normally now?
[00:28] <J2> Didn't try cause it said error
[00:28] <J2> will try now
[00:28] <bazhang> razelda, put in fstab
[00:28] <Stanley00> dasyogi: to be honest, I dont remember now, some echo to a file in /sys, just a minute, I'll do a search
[00:28] <bazhang> !fstab | razelda
[00:28] <dasyogi> thanks to both of you
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, yeah the flexnet problem was supposed to have been fixed I have not had to deal with it myself.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> J2: "warn" != "error" (though it's always good to check warnings as well).
[00:29] <dasyogi> I'll add the system brightness instruction to init.d
[00:29] <Stanley00> dasyogi: well, in my case, the file is /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness , you can echo some value to that file to find out the right value
[00:29] <vfw> dasyogi:  https://www.google.com/search?q=hp+pavilion+dv6+function+keys+brightness+dont+work+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=n2c&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&ei=KQurT5H_HYeQ9gSJ-aQa&ved=0CB0QBSgA&q=hp+pavilion+dv6+function+keys+brightness+doesn%27t+work+ubuntu&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1dcd8774e2ef9e5b&biw=1680&bih=849
[00:30] <dasyogi> was hoping that maybe ubuntu had a way to remember its settings without me having to script it
[00:30] <Jordan_U> J2: wilee-nilee: In this case grub is basically telling you "You're using a piece of Windows software which is doing something utterly stupid. We're working around it and so you won't have any problems, but we thought you might like to know (and we hope you'll help be an advocate as a customer and ask them to stop being stupid)".
[00:31] <Stanley00> dasyogi: :D
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, not a problem is their a link to do this with?
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> is it just MS?
[00:32] <vfw> dasyogi: This looks interesting:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/66836/how-do-i-make-my-hp-g62-function-keys-work   [Not that I think it's the final word on the issue ... may be, but I don't know it for sure ]
[00:32] <dasyogi> Stanley00, vfw: will be throwing stupid laptop out of window if doesn't do my will
[00:32] <fabio_> hi
[00:33] <catcher> I'm experiencing a bug in emacs that has been patched. I'd like to install the newest version, but apt doesn't have it yet. I'd rather not install the source so I can stay current with future upgrades. What's my best option?
[00:33] <Stanley00> dasyogi: it will do what ever you want as long as you know how to do it ;)
[00:33] <dasyogi> vfw: thanks...instaling and testing
[00:33] <fabio_> im trying to playback a video on libre office impress
[00:33] <kappa19> hello! can anyone help me with nav 3.11.3 installation? I type ./syncdb.py -c and get  from nav.db import get_connection_parameters, get_connection_string ImportError: No module named nav.db How do I set this up to work with postgreSQL?
[00:34] <fabio_> but its not working
[00:34] <dasyogi> Stanley00: my handle should be dasN00b
[00:34] <vfw> catcher: Is there a .deb  for it?
[00:34] <catcher> vfw, not that I'm seeing on the emacs ftp download site.
[00:35] <fabio_> im trying to playback a video on libre office impress but not working
[00:35] <bazhang> !repeat | fabio_
[00:35] <fabio_> bazhang, sorry
[00:35] <J2> Jordan_U: wilee-nilee you guys fixed it! Thank you soo much!
[00:36] <vfw> catcher: Well, you can bet it won't be long, so.  A lot of tarballs have an uninstall and if it does, you can uninstall get the new one when it comes out.  See if you can find out.
[00:37] <catcher> vfw, kk, ty
[00:37] <nmatrix> Hey guys
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> J2, it was not my help had you run the wipe mbr command you would of had to put grub back in.
[00:37] <nmatrix> I've been struggling for days trying to get Raid 10 on a new ubuntu install.
[00:37] <razelda> sweet TYVM
[00:38] <nmatrix> I just moved from Centos 5 to Ubuntu, so I've been reading up on Ubuntu but I can't seem to find any decent or recent docs on setting up raid on Ubuntu
[00:39] <nmatrix> they seem so out of date and following them seems to not produce a working installation
[00:39] <Delz> is ubuntu.com down?
[00:39] <vfw> catcher: In other words, if you keep the source you installed from, you may find that there is "make uninstall"  and you can uninstall from that and re-install when the patched one comes out, (which will more-than-likely be in the not-too-distant future).  Get the tarball, open it and look at the documentation and see....
[00:39] <nmatrix> Like this one for example
[00:39] <nmatrix> http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10
[00:40] <cordyceps> anybody using lirc in homebrew-serial mode?
[00:41] <catcher> vfw, that makes sense, much appreciated
[00:41] <vader> Delz, no, I can get to www.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <vfw> catcher: NP
[00:43] <capitantyler> hello i have no sound in ubuntu 12.04 send report http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b13f0485ce3ab70bade651f39b5088813695ada
[00:43] <vfw> vader: Delz what browser are you using?
[00:44] <vfw> vader: Delz   cookies disabled?
[00:52] <capitantyler> hello i have no sound in ubuntu 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/979010/
[00:52] <KingKatari> what is the name of the MySQL server package for ubuntu server12.04
[00:53] <krababbel> capitantyler: did you check ouput device in sound settings?
[00:53] <Celltech> Is there anyway to disable the annoying accidental window grab that puts browser tabs in new browsers?
[00:54] <Blackshirt> King katari mysql-server
[00:54] <vfw> capitantyler: Does alsamixer correctly identify your sound card? (Look in the upper left corner of the screen)
[00:54] <capitantyler> krababbel yes
[00:54] <capitantyler> vfw i dont know
[00:54] <capitantyler> vfw let me see
[00:54] <krababbel> open alsamixer
[00:55] <makzileiva> good night from Mendoza, Argentina!
[00:55] <capitantyler> alsamixer opened
[00:55] <makzileiva> i just updated to ubuntu 12.04lts from ubuntu 11.10, and my computer is no longer working properly....
[00:56] <makzileiva> can anyone help me, i think i would need to go back to 11.10 as it will no work
[00:56] <Blackshirt> Makzilevia, exactly what the problem?
[00:56] <kappa19> How do I set this up postgreSQL?
[00:56] <capitantyler> vfw my souncard is "Sound			Beats Audio™ and HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer"
[00:56] <capitantyler> krababbel alsamixer opened
[00:57] <krababbel> capitantyler: what mainboard chipset?
[00:57] <capitantyler> krababbel lspci?
[00:58] <vfw> capitantyler: What is the make and model of your laptop?
[00:58] <aartist> I have problem with mouuse.. when I type something and cursor suddenly moves..
[00:58] <capitantyler> vfw HP pavilion dv7
[00:58] <Brustofski-Fan> In gnome shell is this part of the  shell theme or a bug... i only have a few themes that shell menu icons look right..    http://i.imgur.com/vwNzo.jpg
[00:58] <aartist> I hav HP Pavlioon dv6
[00:58] <capitantyler> vfw dv7-4177nr
[01:00] <vfw> capitantyler: Where did you get the above info?  "SoundIIIBeats Audio(TM) and HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer" ?
[01:00] <capitantyler> vfw from the HP store
[01:00] <krababbel> looks like an azalia chipset according to the pastebin, mine works ?
[01:01] <krababbel> realtek probably
[01:01] <dr_willis> gotta love marketing buzzwords
[01:01] <vfw> capitantyler: I see "ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series" in the ALSA Information:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/979010/
[01:01] <capitantyler> krababbel azalia not sound for me, but lspci shows ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
[01:02] <vfw> capitantyler: What does alsamixer say?
[01:02] <capitantyler> vfw yes "CEDAR" never see it
[01:02] <capitantyler> in lspci
[01:02] <krababbel> capitantyler: you have two sound output devices, one ati is over hdmi only
[01:02] <capitantyler> vfw something is wrong in the report i guess
[01:02] <vfw> capitantyler: Did you post http://paste.ubuntu.com/979010/  ?
[01:03] <vfw> capitantyler: ... but it says: "HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC"
[01:03]  * battlestar loves ubuntu but hates unity    :-/
[01:03] <capitantyler> krababbel yes, but the report seems not be fine at all with the hard. In the previous ubuntu version, lspci says other hardware
[01:04] <krababbel> line 71 is the soundcard, 72 is the hdmi output
[01:04] <capitantyler> vfw yes this is my laptop. The model is OK
[01:04] <vfw> 950340
[01:05] <vfw> bug 950340
[01:06] <shinichi> quit
[01:06] <capitantyler> krababbel 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) dont rememeber that is my model. ubuntu previous versions shos other
[01:06] <capitantyler> vfw  bug 950340 i have to see?
[01:06] <capitantyler> vfw where?
[01:06] <vfw> capitantyler: Maybe you just need to uninstall pulseaudio ?
[01:07] <vfw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/950340
[01:08] <vfw> sorry to keep making the bot repeat.  Not sure how to avoind it though...
[01:08] <KrizOne> hi guys, im using unbntu server and i "logged off" gnome and now im just left with a basic X screen with nothing on it, how do i kill the whole lot? :S
[01:09] <capitantyler> vfw i got the bug link
[01:09] <vfw> capitantyler: Ok, well check it out, may be some help for you there...
[01:09] <fred-fri> what is the command for the additional drivers utility? i lost it in my menu and i need to start it using terminal
[01:10] <vfw> KrizOne: Kill what?
[01:10] <zykotic10> fred-fri: try "jockey<TAB>" i think it's jockey-gtk
[01:10] <KrizOne> vfw, the whole graphical thing so next time i log into VNC it makes a new gnome session, is that possible?
[01:10] <capitantyler> vfw it means that i have to abandon pulseaudio? Can i recover sound with the bug opened?
[01:11] <fred-fri> thanks zykotic10
[01:11] <vfw> capitantyler: Yes, you can have sound without pulseaudio
[01:11] <KrizOne> vfw, fixed it, i ran sudo pkill -u username then restarted VNC, thnx =]
[01:11] <vfw> KrizOne: Ok
[01:11] <krababbel> capitantyler: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530600 comment 6
[01:11] <cordyceps> anybody using lirc in homebrew-serial mode?
[01:12] <OerHeks> capitantyler, maybe this answer #1 or answer#2 from Actionparsnip may solve your sound issue >> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/196179
[01:12] <sideup66> hey room
[01:13] <sideup66> i have a question about mounting things
[01:13] <vfw> capitantyler: I don't knwo that would be the answer to your problem, was just a wild guess.  OerHeks may have better answer(s).
[01:13] <EvilResistance> sideup66, what question/
[01:13] <OerHeks> capitantyler, = DV7
[01:14] <sideup66> essentially I installed ubuntu server and then afterword installed a simple gnome interface (noob here or id live in bash) but I created a raid1 configuration on 2 nonboot drives that I want to automount as they will be used on a home server as a data drive
[01:14] <sideup66> basically I got the raid running fine in disk util (nice program btw) but im stumped on the automount as pysdm isnt really helping me much
[01:15] <sideup66> so im just asking for a simple beginner friendly how to on doing this..
[01:15] <sideup66> pysdm lists the two drives but any mount ails
[01:15] <sideup66> fails i mean
[01:15] <EvilResistance> !enter | sideup66
[01:15] <EvilResistance> just for the record :)
[01:15] <sideup66> !enter?
[01:16] <sideup66> ohh sorry evil
[01:16] <dr_willis> ! mount
[01:16] <vfw> EvilResistance: Duly noted
[01:16] <sideup66> didnt know you called the bot
[01:16] <dr_willis> ! fstab
[01:16] <capitantyler> derheks is not my soundcard 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[01:16] <aartist> cat /etc/fstab
[01:16] <capitantyler> derheks that is a intel card, in a Dv7
[01:17] <cocolos> anyone know the how long is the delay for watchdog?
[01:17] <sideup66> ok
[01:17] <sideup66> so im looking at mount then...i know about etc/fstab
[01:17] <sideup66> i hosed my last install that way :blush
[01:18] <krababbel> capitantyler: intel hda is a specification I think, not a chip
[01:18] <sideup66> essentially, the thing im working on is in a vm right now as im doing a simulation to figure out how to do it, once the college gods decide I can have some monies the real deal is getting built, this is a learning run im doing
[01:18] <capitantyler> krababbel, so can i try it?
[01:19] <krababbel> yes, you can always remove the lines later
[01:19] <sideup66> evilresistance what about the new udisks command? wont that make things simpler?
[01:19] <sideup66> ! udisks
[01:19] <EvilResistance> sideup66, i'm not answering because i dont know :)
[01:19] <sideup66> oh okies
[01:19]  * EvilResistance doesnt answer when he doesnt know the answer
[01:19] <sideup66> sorry
[01:19] <EvilResistance> no problem :)
[01:20] <mint> is Btrfs better than ext4?
[01:21] <capitantyler> krababbel done! how can i restart the sound system without reboot? That way i dont have to close this chat
[01:21] <dr_willis> I trust editing fstab by hand more then I do these fstab guide tos
[01:21] <dr_willis> tools
[01:22] <krababbel> capitantyler: not sure, pulsaudio has a daemon you'd have to restart, maybe unload the module too? I'm new to this
[01:22] <Morb|3> lusers
[01:23] <Morb|3> list
[01:25] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[01:25] <capitantyler> krababbel pulseaudio --kill and pulseaudio --start
[01:27] <nina666> hi...  I have mono 2.10.8.1 and monodevelop 2.8.6.3 installed on my computer (im using ubuntu 12.04) when I want to compile my program which has to use System.Net, it does not recognize it. then i saw, under my folder /usr/lib/mono, i have directories of 2.0 3.5 and 4.0. I could find System.Net under directory 4.0, but i couldnt make use of it... does anyone know how i can solve this problem?
[01:28] <skorket> I've just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 onto a machine.  When I first installed it (from cd) I did not have any network access.  Now that I do, I can't get it to connect.  'ifconfig -a' shows an eth0 interface and 'ifup eth0' says "unknown interface eth0=eth0".  Any suggestions?
[01:28] <nina666> (i asked this question in mono channel, but no one responds there at all... so i thought maybe someone here uses mono...)
[01:29] <PrIsmaTicO> spanish ¿?
[01:29] <zykotic10> !es | PrIsmaTicO
[01:29] <PrIsmaTicO> /†\  zackiv31 /†\ thanks
[01:33] <KingSphinx> I find it odd that Ubuntu 12.04 is the first version to lock up on boot thanks to my wireless chip.
[01:35] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[01:35] <KingSphinx> Used to be that previous versions would detect it had no firmware, but boot anyway; 12.04 won't even boot unless I blacklist my chip (Broadcom B4318).
[01:38] <capitantyler> i can t solve the problem
[01:39] <apn> how do you open gnome-terminal in this new unity thingy?
[01:39] <capitantyler> bye for now thanks to all
[01:39] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/978739/
[01:39] <xangua> apn: as is always been, Control+Alt+T
[01:40] <KingSphinx> Oh, I have the right drivers and whatnot downloaded, I'm just curious as to whether the drivers would install properly if I blacklist the wireless card.
[01:40] <apn> xangua, where is application menu nowadays?
[01:40] <Areckx> how do I update the drivers for this? Do I do a complete purge before updating?
[01:40] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/978739/
[01:41] <DarwinSurvivor> apn: top-left corner, it's no longer a menu but a "full screen selector"
[01:41] <apn> xangua, thank you, the terminal is back.  I can explore from now.
[01:41] <xangua> apn: clic on the Ubuntu button and you get everything
[01:41] <Areckx> apn::  The terminal is the answer to all of life's questions!
[01:42] <apn> xangua, did click on it, but absolutely nothing showed up, other than search box on top.
[01:42] <DarwinSurvivor> apn: can you post a screenshot?
[01:42] <DarwinSurvivor> !paste | apn
[01:42] <xangua> apn: see those little icons down¿ there you go
[01:46] <dr_willis> theres some unity tutorial/guides out there.   press and hold the super/windows keys for a list of shortcuts in 12.04 also
[01:49] <mca> i need to set unity 2d as default desktop enviroment
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: at the login screen, click the "gear icon", then "unity-2d"
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: unity-2d will now be the default shell for that account
[01:50] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: the gear icon should be next to your name
[01:50] <apn> xangua, imagebin.org/211752
[01:51] <apn> xangua, http://imagebin.org/211752
[01:51] <m0rn1ng5tar> down with unity! fluxbox all the way!
[01:51] <DarwinSurvivor> m0rn1ng5tar: do you have a support question?
[01:51] <edoceo> My dhcp is over-writing my hosts domain in /etc/reslov.conf - how to stop that?
[01:52] <apn> m0rn1ng5tar, I prefer xfce to fluxbox, but I agree with down with unity
[01:52] <mca> im using kde login screen  though
[01:52] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: oh, that's important to mention :P
[01:52] <zykotic10> edoceo: are you sure it'd dhcp?  are you using network manager (it also overwrites /etc/resolv.conf)
[01:53] <edoceo> I don't think I am, it's a server install
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: is there an "options" button on your screen?
[01:53] <apn> is it possible that unity has problems populating apps in it's menu due to restricted hardware resources?
[01:53] <mca> where
[01:53] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: below the username box on the login screen?
[01:54] <mca> ok
[01:54] <mca> then what
[01:54] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: what's in the list?
[01:55] <KingKatari> is there a way in ubuntu server 12.04 to have a graphical package manager
[01:55] <jrib> KingKatari: sure, install one
[01:55] <apn> kingkatari, you can always install synaptic
[01:56] <KingKatari> i dont have x11 installed does that matter with synaptic?
[01:56] <mca> can i come back i need to check that
[01:56] <apn> KingKatari, yes, but aptitude has nice cli interface
[01:56] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: sure
[01:56] <jrib> KingKatari: why do you want a graphical package manager?
[01:57] <KingKatari> cuz i have no clue which mysql server is installed on this system
[01:57] <DarwinSurvivor> KingKatari: dpkg -L | grep -i mysql
[01:57] <jrib> KingKatari: why not use command-line tools like apt-get, apt-cache, and dpkg?
[01:58] <KingKatari> dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[01:58] <jrib> DarwinSurvivor: dpkg -l '*mysql*' | grep '^ii'    would show installed packages with 'mysql' in the name
[01:58] <DarwinSurvivor> KingKatari: oh, sorry, typed that wrong, one second
[01:59] <DarwinSurvivor> KingKatari: dpkg --get-selections | grep -i mysql
[01:59] <droope> hey guys! I have a question, I am running a linux vbox inside a windows 7 enterprise. The reason behind doing so is that it's easier for me not having to explain / configure the computer to work with the network ( which might prove impossible ).
[01:59] <droope> I have installed ubuntu, and it works fine except the fact that they lose the internet connection after a while. The cable still shows as up, but I can't resolve anything
[01:59] <droope> nor I can connect to my own internal lan IP address
[01:59] <droope> any clues on why that may be happening and how can I solve it?
[01:59] <jrib> KingKatari: dpkg -l '*mysql*' | grep '^ii'    would show installed packages with 'mysql' in the name
[02:00] <DarwinSurvivor> jrib: thanks, that'r probably a better command (been a while since I used dpkg)
[02:00]  * jrib mourns aptitude
[02:00] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: what network interface is virtualbox configured to emulate?
[02:00] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ex: Nat, bridge, etc?
[02:01] <droope> DarwinSurvivor:  it's a NAT
[02:02] <Draton> anyone here manage to get django working on ubuntu?
[02:02] <Draton> 12.04 that is
[02:03] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: and when ubuntu loses its connection, does windows still have internet?
[02:03] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: yes,
[02:03] <droope> I currently have an ubuntu without connection running
[02:04] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: alright, before we get too far into this, you mentioned you are using virtualbox because you don't think ubuntu will connect to your network, why is that?
[02:05] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: Well, it's a bit trickier than that. Windows is set to recieve my email, automatically connect to the internal network, automatically connect to the microsoft communicator. I do not doubt these things are possible with linux, it's just I can't be bothered to do them ( have to work, heh )
[02:05] <mca> hi im back
[02:05] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok, fair enough. I just wanted to make sure you didn't have some kind of weird VPN type thing going on
[02:05] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: what was in the list?
[02:06] <droope> thanks for understanding :P
[02:06] <mca> default
[02:06] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok, so can you run "ping google.ca" in a terminal in ubuntu and tell me if it gets a connection?
[02:07] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: that's it?
[02:07] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: will do, i'll pastie the output, tho I think it wont do much
[02:08] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: I don't need the output. If it give an error, then just say it errored out. if it lists a bunch of ping times, just tell me the highest and lowest times you see
[02:08] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: Oh, i got only Unknown host google.ca
[02:08] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok, now run hit "Ctrl+c" to kill ping and run "ifconfig"
[02:09] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: the ifconfig command I *will* need the output of
[02:09] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: did you install unity?
[02:10] <mca> Default, User defined session, Gnome/ open box, Lxde, Lubuntu, Lubuntu net book, Open box session, Recovery console, Ubuntu, Ubuntu (safe mode), Ubuntu classic, Ubuntu classic  (no effects), Unity 2d (previous), Guest-restricted, Guest restricted, Fail safe
[02:10] <Aboba> I have a wierd problem, Rhythmbox will play an MP3 that I cannot get ANY other piece of software to play
[02:10] <mca> yes i did
[02:10] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: ok, chose "Unity 2d (previous)" and then log in
[02:10] <Aboba> How do I find out what kind of problem is causing this?
[02:11] <apn> Aboba, are other gstreamer based players refusing to play as well?
[02:11] <mca> how can i make it the default though
[02:12] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: once you pick it, it should remain the default for that account I believe (it does in lightdm and gdm)
[02:12] <Aboba> apn checking
[02:12] <Aboba> okay, looks like they do
[02:12] <droope> hey DarwinSurvivor i just got a usggestion from the guys at #vbox, i'll give that a go ah?
[02:12] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: if it doesn't, there may be a checkbox for "set as default" or "save settings" or somesuch
[02:12] <Aboba> banshee, and movie player both work
[02:12] <adio> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a MSI MS-171f Notebook and it just keeps hanging after the cd boots up, not sure what to do and I can't find anything on google that works. anyone have a suggestion or link i could check out
[02:12] <Aboba> VLC does not
[02:12] <Aboba> nor does any sort of mp3 conversion software
[02:12] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: sure, go for it
[02:12] <apn> Aboba, looks like you have some missing dependencies for vlc
[02:13] <Aboba> audacity also cannot open the file
[02:13] <apn> Aboba, open vlc in terminal, it should display error in the background
[02:13] <Aboba> which is what I'm really trying to do
[02:14] <mca> nope and also gnome 3 isnt working in 11.04
[02:14] <DarwinSurvivor> adio: please boot up using the cd and chose "check disk for defects" on the first menu
[02:15] <adio> DarwinSurvivor, I am actually using the pc right now with jolicloud
[02:15] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: is unity 2d not logging in, or can you just not get it to be the default?
[02:15] <adio> the disk is fine, i've checked already
[02:15] <Aboba> apn no error in background when run from terminal
[02:16] <DarwinSurvivor> adio: do you have another computer you can do IRC on? It's very hard to troubleshoot something when you have to disconnect for each test :(
[02:16] <adio> yea i have another pc
[02:16] <apn> Aboba, tough cookie.  SoundConverter runs on top of gstreamer, so it will convert to mp3 as needed.  But it does not solve the problem. Is it only specific mp3s, or all of them?
[02:16] <DarwinSurvivor> adio: can you use that for irc? if you have no client on it, use http://webchat.freenode.net/
[02:16] <adio> DarwinSurvivor: brb
[02:16] <Aboba> It's one particular mp3
[02:16] <Aboba> going to try soundconverter
[02:17] <apn> Aboba, then something is wrong with the file, not software.  Good luck.
[02:17] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: is unity-2d not working at all, or just not staying as the default?
[02:18] <mca> i cant get it to be default
[02:18] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: that didn't work! will be pasting the ifconfig any second now
[02:19] <Aboba> apn, used soundconverter to go to wav, then back to mp3, not it works
[02:20] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: alright. since it appears to be a kdm issue (not saving the default) you'll probably have better luck asking in the #kubuntu channel.
[02:21] <DarwinSurvivor> mca: you are however welcome to stay in #ubuntu and see if anyone here is familiar with kdm
[02:21] <Aboba> apn sorry, now it works
[02:21] <Aboba> apn thanks
[02:21] <apn> Aboba, great. No problem.
[02:21] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: this is the pastie http://pastie.org/3887337 it will lose the connection in a while tho
[02:22] <droope> i'm not sure what impact it will have on what ifconfig shows
[02:22] <Draton> Has anyone installed django on 12.04? having trouble mapping /admin
[02:22] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: alright, can you tell me what "route" prints?
[02:23] <droope> right now it'll work fine, let's wait till it fails agai nah?
[02:24] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: this is what route outputs now
[02:24] <droope> http://pastie.org/3887341
[02:24] <droope> i'll let you know when it fails again
[02:24] <droope> if you are still around
[02:24] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: wait, is it working now?
[02:25] <Draton> nvm: I'm an idiot
[02:25] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: yeah, I had to reboot to do what the other guy asked
[02:25] <droope> but in the end his solution won't solve anything
[02:26] <droope> i think
[02:26] <lambdaq> hi guy, I accidently typed ulimit 0 on ubuntu server, is there a way to change it back to unlimited?
[02:26] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: out of curiosity, what did he ask you to do (we may use his answer for future helpees)
[02:26] <adio> DarwinSurvivor: Hi, I'm back. I just started up the notebook with ubuntu latest and after the ubuntu logo it just sits there with the background on and mouse cursor.
[02:27] <droope> he told me to use a host-only network adapter, but that obviously killed my internet -.-
[02:27] <lambdaq> please help guys
[02:27] <droope> it seems he had misunderstood my problem
[02:27] <Mneumonic> Has anyone had their mouse buttons stop working in Ubuntu 12.04?  I have had this happen to me 3 or 4 times now.
[02:27] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: a host-only will create a connection between windows and ubuntu but ubuntu will have NO internet connection
[02:27] <droope> yeah, I went back to a NAT
[02:28] <droope> hey DarwinSurvivor the internet died again
[02:28] <droope> here is what the route says
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: what you need is either NAT (virtualbox will pretend to be a router) or bridge (ubuntu will appear to the router as a separate computer and be 100% visible to the entire network)
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok, give me the outputs of "route" and "ifconfig" i want to see what changed.
[02:28] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: also try "ping 10.0.2.2"
[02:28] <droope> all right
[02:29] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: if you are intending to connect TO the ubuntu vm from any other computers, you should use bridged instead of NAT, otherwise don't worry about it and kee nat
[02:30] <DarwinSurvivor> *keep
[02:30] <khmerog> :(
[02:30] <khmerog> boot repair is scanning my system and it has been over 5 minutes
[02:31] <Conexion> When I enter the Advanced Settings, I go to change my shell theme and I get a warning icon stating "Could not list shell extensions" - Any ideas how to fix that?
[02:31] <Conexion> shell themes*
[02:32] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: le paste http://pastie.org/3887369
[02:32] <goyair> Hello
[02:33] <droope> weird as. have you any idea on what layer the problem might be? Perhaps if I make it bridged it magically gets fixed
[02:33] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok, try "ping 10.0.2.15"
[02:34] <droope> that worked fine
[02:34] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: if you use bridged things start to get complicated if you ever have to use a network with a vpn or proxy
[02:34] <droope> hm
[02:36] <khmerog> TRABPUKCIP
[02:36] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: is there anything that triggers it working vs not working? also, is it always 1 way when ubuntu is freshly booted?
[02:36] <Conexion> I haven't used Ubuntu in about a year. It has gotten very... Mac-y
[02:37] <khmerog> it has?
[02:37] <khmerog> please explain Conexion
[02:37] <khmerog> i kind of wanted it to be Mac-y
[02:37] <khmerog> as lonbg as it is not T-Mac-y...
[02:38] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: not as far as i can tell, i'm doing my stuff, and all of a sudden internet stops working. what do you mean by 1 way?
[02:39] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: if you restart the VM is it always connected at first, always disconnected at first, or random?
[02:39] <Conexion> khmerog: Menu bar at the top instead of in the applications. Psudo-bubble-bar on the left hand side. I also don't see any themes that allow for your close/minimize/maximize buttons to be on the right (though  that's fixable of course)
[02:40] <Guest61500> hello
[02:40] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: it's always connected at first. It loses the connection after not-so-long.
[02:40] <droope> It's weird! I cannot find an explaination. And it's not an OS issue with the VM because i've tried other OSs.
[02:40] <droope> I am gonna try bridged and cross fingers.
[02:41] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: do you have any firewall software installed in windows? I'm thinking a firewall may be detecting "weird" connections from virtualbox and blocking it
[02:41] <Guest61500> help me =\
[02:41] <Guest61500> Someone working with cloud server?
[02:41] <Guest61500> I doubt in connection with the mysql database by php.
[02:41] <Guest61500> Some pages are accessed, others are offline.
[02:41] <FloodBot1> Guest61500: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: that's a good idea
[02:42]  * droope disables windows firewall
[02:43]  * DarwinSurvivor waits for the results :)
[02:43] <droope> a friend installed a ISA server client, i don't know what that is
[02:44] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: still no connection
[02:44] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: might not lose it if I restart
[02:44] <droope> i'll give it a go
[02:45] <DarwinSurvivor> might not lose what if you restart which OS?
[02:45] <DarwinSurvivor> droope:might not lose what if you restart which OS?
[02:45] <droope> the host
[02:45] <droope> the
[02:45] <droope> sorry
[02:45] <droope> i meant the guest
[02:45] <FloodBot1> droope: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <vite> does anyone know why I ran an update and it deleted firefox?
[02:48] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: to clarify: you are disabling *all* windows firewall and restarting ubuntu?
[02:48] <adio> DarwinSurvivor: I checked the disk again, no errors and still hanging after ubuntu screen
[02:48] <droope> DarwinSurvivor:
[02:48] <droope> yes
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: and is it still in nat mode, or in bridge mode?
[02:49] <nicastor> does wamp and lamp have the same processes?
[02:49] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: Nat
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: ok
[02:49] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: let me know how it goes after the reboot
[02:49] <droope> I'm testing it now, the internet works fine. It'll hang in the next 10 15 minutes if everything is as normal
[02:50] <Conexion> When I enter the Advanced Settings, I go to change my shell themes and I get a warning icon stating "Could not list shell extensions" - Any ideas how to fix that?
[02:50] <st3el__>  question, how do you talk to a certain person like that?
[02:50] <vite> had to run it from the terminal wierd
[02:50] <st3el__> example: message
[02:50] <st3el__> what command
[02:51] <st3el__> sorry for the stupid question
[02:51] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: the internet died!!!!
[02:51] <st3el__> NO!
[02:52] <droope> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:52] <droope> ITS DEAD
[02:52] <FloodBot1> droope: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <st3el__> droope
[02:52] <st3el__> how do you do this
[02:52] <st3el__> example
[02:52] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: like I'm doing to you now?
[02:52] <st3el__> persons name: question
[02:52] <st3el__> yes
[02:53] <st3el__> ugh, how...
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: you just type in their name (or use autocomplete like "st<tab>")
[02:53] <st3el__> darwinsurvivor thanks?
[02:53] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: yep, that worked
[02:54] <st3el__> no...
[02:54] <st3el__> or at least I don't think it worked...
[02:54] <tyler> ufa
[02:54] <tyler> irc offline? 0o
[02:54] <vite> I am getting an error when I start firefox from the terminal. it says failed to run drawable
[02:55] <st3el__> I have so many questions...
[02:55] <CONTROLLER> what's a nice drawing program to use
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: unfortunately I can't think of anything else to try from the ubuntu side. It appears to *me* to be an issue with VirtualBox or windows (blocking VirtualBox).
[02:55] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: you could try bridge mode, but that's about all I can suggest at this point
[02:55] <droope> st3el__: st + TAB
[02:56] <droope> it autocompletes in most clients
[02:56] <st3el__> ?
[02:56] <st3el__> I'm sorry I used to know more when I was younger but I cant remember
[02:56] <st3el__> stupid drugs >_<
[02:57] <droope> st3el__: don't worry
[02:57] <st3el__> what is st?
[02:57] <MyNameIsJimGreen> i install window 7 and ubuntu ,and MS office is the only reason i use window 7
[02:57] <droope> by st I'm meaning the first letters of the person you want to "quote"
[02:57] <Jeruvy> I have twinview working but I have dual unity panes (on each screen) any idea how to just have it on one streched across twinview?
[02:57] <Guest73578> test, I'm not sure if I'm connected
[02:57] <Draton> MyNameIsJimGreen, only reason I have Win 7: Diablo 3 ;)
[02:57] <st3el__> "dr" cool
[02:57] <st3el__> hrm
[02:57] <droope> so, say i wanna quote Jeruvy i'd press "Je" and press teh key Tab
[02:58] <droope> you know where the tab key is?
[02:58] <st3el__> oooh
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest73578: you are connected
[02:58] <st3el__> yeah
[02:58] <st3el__> heh
[02:58] <droope> just type two letters and press that! you should be good as gold
[02:58] <st3el__> I'm using xchat not sure if that makes a difference but...
[02:58] <DarwinSurvivor> MyNameIsJimGreen: you can run MS Office in wine very easily these days, would you like help setting that up?
[02:59] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: x-chat supports auto-complete
[02:59] <droope> st3el__: uh not sure if xchat autocompletes, anyone here knows?
[02:59] <Dude_Supreme> Ubuntu Forums are quite helpful for that kind of thing too.
[02:59] <st3el__> when I type dr and press tab I get a list of names that start with dr
[02:59] <Dude_Supreme> Although not all the MS Office features work without their hiccups.
[02:59] <MyNameIsJimGreen> DarwinSurvivor, thanks,i don't link wine,
[03:00] <droope> ah! then i reckon you should choose one
[03:00] <droope> or try to change that behaviour on your client
[03:00] <st3el__> I attempted to click on the name it doesn't do anything
[03:00] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: try typing more of the letters,
[03:00] <st3el__> droope, nice
[03:00] <st3el__> it auto commas for me
[03:01] <st3el__> lol
[03:01] <st3el__> guess thats good enough
[03:01] <st3el__> , : whats the difference really...
[03:02] <st3el__> DarwinSurvivor, the more letters thing helped
[03:02] <ejo> Jeruvy: if you mean you only want the Unity launcher on one monitor, you can change that with the "launcher placement" setting on the Displays settings dialog.
[03:02] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: nothing really
[03:02] <Jeruvy> ejo, thanks I figured that out.  Is there a way to get the top panel to do this also?
[03:03] <st3el__> DarwinSurvivor, for what its worth I feel less cool..
[03:03] <snapdata> In pavucontrol a recording device is present for Chrome/Firefox when I use the "voice search" on Google's home page. When I utilize my microphone in flash, however, there is no recording device shown in pavucontrol despite the mic being fully operational in Flash. Any ideas?
[03:03] <ejo> Jeruvy: Hmmm might require installing one of the tweak packages.  ubunty-tweak, myunity, or compiz-config-settings-manager, or unsettings
[03:04] <Jeruvy> ejo, ok I'll keep fiddling.
[03:04] <kevin> hi all. so i just upgraded to oneiric. in the process of going to precise... general question: so i chose lightdm over gdm. in gdm, to run an application it was alt+f2, and now it's coming up as a "search" or whatever... i don't need to search. i know what i want to run. what's the keyboard shortcut for that in lightdm?
[03:05] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: I think you have lightdm/gmd confused with gnome/unity
[03:05] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: lightdm and gdm are what you see when you are typing in your password to log in
[03:05] <craigbass1976> how do I get ubuntu to get on a wireless network before I log in?  I've got a box I'm going to run headless, and it needs to get an ip all by its lonesome
[03:06] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: what you are describing is the unity search bar (after being logged in)
[03:06] <kevin> oh, okay. so what's the "application launcher" keyboard shortcut for unity?
[03:07] <droope> st3el__: see, you made it! :P
[03:07] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: if you just need it for launching applications, then just use it like you did the old F2. If you hint enter it will automatically launch the top-left-most application being displayed
[03:07] <Jeruvy> ejo. hmm just did a relogin, and it fixed itself.
[03:07] <st3el__> droope, yessir
[03:07] <droope> ^^
[03:07] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: well, i did alt+f2, type in 'totem' and hit enter. nothing happens. but if i type 'totem' in a terminal window, it opens up. sooo i dont know why it's not working in this unity search thing.
[03:08] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: when you type in "totem" into the search, do you see the totem player's icon in the box below the search line?
[03:08] <ejo> Jeruvy: great.
[03:08] <st3el__> droope, I haven't used IRC since counter strike 1.6 >_<
[03:09] <droope> lol :P
[03:09] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: nope. there's totem-audio-preview, totem-video-indexer, totem-thumbnail-viewer
[03:09] <droope> st3el__: IRC is quite a resource though
[03:09] <RealEyes> is there anything like gwibber but, "better"?
[03:09] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: could you post a screenshot?
[03:09] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: sure. sec.
[03:10] <st3el__> droope, yea I'm using Ubuntu now and it's a little different but I'm giving it a shot 12/04 is really nice
[03:10] <st3el__> droope, worthy of a shot :D
[03:10] <droope> st3el__: yeah, it's good!
[03:11] <craigbass1976> In addition to my last question, how would I make it get on a particular wireless network before logging, instead of just whatever is available in the area?
[03:11] <droope> There are many flavors of linux, i personally like mint ( hope I don't get killed for saying that on the ubuntu channel lol )
[03:11] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: http://imageshack.us/f/10/screenshotat20120509230.png/
[03:11] <craigbass1976> droope, just poisoned and left for dead...  :)
[03:11] <st3el__> droope, I looked into mint but this was my first attempt at linux
[03:12] <Areckx> Is it possible to install Debian from a netinst.iso?
[03:12] <Areckx> while still running Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:12] <jrib> Areckx: this is #ubuntu
[03:12] <droope> st3el__: stay with linux! once you get past the learning curve you'll never ever ever regret it
[03:12] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: try the totem-video-indexer one, it may just have a weird name...
[03:12] <Areckx> droope::  I'm staying, just switching distros
[03:13] <Areckx> jrib::  this is an ubuntu issue I believe
[03:13] <jrib> Areckx: you want to install debian?
[03:13] <Tm0> Hi all, quick question, AMD64 is the general 64 bit for both Intel and AMD correct?
[03:13] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: no go.
[03:13] <Areckx> jrib::  yes, I want to redo all of my partitions
[03:13] <st3el__> droope, I dedicated my hd to ubuntu and I don't think I'm going back
[03:14] <Areckx> jrib::  so I can run both (and winxp, macosx)
[03:14] <jrib> Areckx: so just install debian on its own partition
[03:14] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: the installation of debian is a debian issue, if there are details you need about ubuntu (such as how it accesses the HDD, then ask those). if you need to install debian from another OS (ubuntu or otherwise), please ask in debian's irc channel
[03:14] <st3el__> droope, tired of fixing the problems windows causes me....
[03:14]  * kevin shrugs
[03:14] <Areckx> jrib::  the entire partition is being used
[03:14] <E_Megas> Hi, I'm having issues installing Precise. Specifically, it fails to grub-install because it "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[03:15] <snapdata> In pavucontrol a recording device is present for Chrome/Firefox when I use the "voice search" on Google's home page. When I utilize my microphone in flash, however, there is no recording device shown in pavucontrol despite the mic being fully operational in Flash. Any ideas?
[03:15] <Areckx> jrib::  is there any way I can change it or do I need to run a livecd?
[03:15] <jrib> Areckx: you have a single partition?  And it's being used by what?
[03:15] <Areckx> jrib::  10.04
[03:15] <E_Megas> The installation succeeds, the grub-install on the mbr does not.
[03:15] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: can you click the second icon at the very bottom? (ruler|pen|pencil icon)
[03:15] <jrib> Areckx: don't you have a swap partition at least?
[03:15] <Areckx> jrib::  I can use that for this?
[03:15] <jrib> Areckx: no, I'm just trying to understand what you are saying.
[03:15] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: heh, okay. it's showing up as "movie player"
[03:16] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: so problem solved?
[03:16] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: so if i alt+f2 and type  'movie player' , it opens up.
[03:16] <Areckx> can I just create a partition table!? seems risky
[03:16] <kevin> DarwinSurvivor: well, it seems unintuitive. i want to run 'totem' , not 'movie player' heh...
[03:16] <DarwinSurvivor> kevin: I guess the totem devs decided "totem" was descriptive enough :P
[03:17] <droope> st3el__: and linuxs just prettier, isn't it? :P
[03:17] <SourceEye> Hi all
[03:17] <Areckx> How can I display my gparted in terminal?
[03:17] <Areckx> so I can pastebin
[03:17] <DarwinSurvivor> droope: st3el__: please keep non-support discussions in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel, thank you
[03:17] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: just use a screenshot
[03:18] <droope> DarwinSurvivor: yeap! sorry
[03:18]  * E_Megas waits patiently.
[03:20] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  jrib  http://i.imgur.com/mW37a.png
[03:20] <ozzloy> i want to test sending udp broadcast packets even when i'm not connected to a real router, for example when i'm on a train.  how do i do this?
[03:21] <ozzloy> here's the code in question
[03:21] <ozzloy> https://github.com/ozzloy/frc-driver-station/tree/master/udp
[03:21] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: ok, and I'm assuming you want to be able to dual-boot both ubuntu and debian?
[03:21] <ozzloy> normally i can run driver-station-test.rkt and then run robot.rkt in another terminal.
[03:22] <E_Megas> Guess I'll wait about half an hour and ask again...
[03:22] <urgodfather> hello, can someone help me fix the right click to my touchpad?
[03:22] <ozzloy> i will work on making that 2 separate threads, but right now even if i do that, i'll still get: "udp-send-to: send failed (Netowrk is unreachable; errno=101)"
[03:22] <Lirth> How do I reinstall nvidia drivers without messing up my computer (it won't boot if I don't have them and haven't set it to run in nomodeset) or a ton of pain?
[03:22] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  yes I want to multiboot
[03:22] <ozzloy> i know the network is unreachable, and i don't really need it.  i'm hoping for some way to set up a virtual network on my machine to test with
[03:23] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  I may stay on ubuntu
[03:23] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  but I would like to try out the new debian
[03:23] <DarwinSurvivor> ozzloy: well, broadcast packet should come back to yourself, so you try 127.0.0.255
[03:23] <Veritas> When I try to run "sudo apt-get update"  I get the following error: "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release" Can any
[03:23] <Veritas> one help?
[03:23] <kevin> uhhhg or say i want to run a console app. gnome had the "run in terminal" option.. i see no equivalent. so, how do i run something like alsamixer? gotta open a terminal first?
[03:23] <xangua> !gpgerr | Veritas
[03:24] <ozzloy> DarwinSurvivor, i'm already sending to 255.255.255.255
[03:24] <ozzloy> or trying to
[03:24] <ozzloy> and i can't
[03:24] <Areckx> One thing that may help... the cdr was blank... if you look at the lower left of the screen LMFAO
[03:24] <Tm0> Hi all, quick question, AMD64 is the general 64 bit for both Intel and AMD correct?
[03:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: can I assume you want to be able to dual-boot both ubuntu and debian?
[03:25] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  yes
[03:25] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  I can resize and make an NTFS later if I need to
[03:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: sorry, missed your message
[03:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: you don't need ntfs unless you are using windows
[03:26] <Areckx> yes, I may need to install winxp
[03:26] <Veritas> ubottu, what does the error I'm getting mean?
[03:26] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: I'd just shrink sda1 and then let debian's installer create a new partition i the new empty space
[03:27] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  how can I shrink it it's mounted?
[03:27] <xangua> Tm0: yes
[03:27] <DarwinSurvivor> ozzloy: oh, ok
[03:27] <Tm0> xangua so there is no reason the ISO should refuse to boot based on that image?
[03:27] <xxd> hello
[03:27] <xxd> i have a question
[03:27] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: you will need to boot a live-cd of some kind (ubuntu's install cd can be used as a live cd). debian's installer may also include one, but you'll have to ask the debian devs
[03:27] <ozzloy> DarwinSurvivor, but i will try 127.0.0.255 right now!
[03:28] <ricardo_> list
[03:28] <Veritas> Can I get some human help?
[03:28] <xxd> can suse11.iso's softwave joined into suse10'os?
[03:28] <Veritas> When I try to run "sudo apt-get update"  I get the following error: "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release"
[03:28] <xangua> xxd: ask in suse channel
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Areckx: since you are already at the partitioning stage, I think you'll get much better answers asking in the #debian channel.
[03:29] <Areckx> DarwinSurvivor::  I am asking there, thanks
[03:29] <xangua> Veritas: have you already run the comando ubbotu told you¿ it even give you the keys
[03:29] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: you were already given a solution, pleaes try that before re-posting the same question
[03:29] <xxd> tks
[03:30] <ozzloy> DarwinSurvivor, oh!  that appears to have worked!
[03:30] <ozzloy> DarwinSurvivor, thanks!
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> ozzloy: if that doesn't work, you could always use a virtual machine (or multiple) for testing
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> ozzloy: awesome
[03:30] <DarwinSurvivor> ozzloy: have fun!
[03:30] <ozzloy> yeah, i have some vms set up already, but that seemed a bit overkill
[03:31] <ozzloy> also i wanted other people to be able to easily test
[03:31] <ozzloy> ok cool, rad
[03:31] <ozzloy> thanks again!
[03:31] <snapdata> In pavucontrol a recording device is present for Chrome/Firefox when I use the "voice search" on Google's home page. When I utilize my microphone in flash, however, there is no recording device shown in pavucontrol despite the mic being fully operational in Flash. Any ideas?
[03:32] <Veritas> Yes, I tried it. I ran "sudo apt-get update" afterwards and I got the same error again.
[03:32] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: I don't see a "voice search" on google's homepage, could you provide a direct link?>
[03:33] <xangua> Veritas: how about you give the output of what you tried¿
[03:33] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: please pastebin the entire terminal session, there may be important information in it that you don't recognise as relevant
[03:33] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, you have to use Chrome I believe. For Firefox I am testing using something else that essentially does the same hting.
[03:33] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, it's in the google search box, all the way on the right, click the microphone icon.
[03:33] <gwakao> DarwinSurvivor,  voice search? it sounds like a nsa/cia/fbi tech
[03:33] <E_Megas> Hi, I'm having issues installing Precise. Specifically, it fails to grub-install because it "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[03:33] <E_Megas> The installation succeeds, the grub-install on the mbr does not.
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: snapdata ok, and what is it you *want* it to do that it isn't doing?
[03:34] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: your question makes it hard to tell if the google thing or the flash thing is the problem :(
[03:34] <zykotic10> E_Megas: "is /dev mounted" suggests you aren't chrooted correctly, are you trying from a livecd?
[03:34] <E_Megas> zykotic10: Yes.
[03:35] <zykotic10> !grub | E_Megas
[03:35] <E_Megas> It was supposed to be part of the installation process. It failed.
[03:35] <adio> DarwinSurvivor: can you pm me when you have a chance, can't seem to get ubuntu past the logo screen
[03:35] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, it's Flash. Do you use Pavucontrol?
[03:35] <zykotic10> E_Megas: is RAID involved?
[03:35] <DarwinSurvivor> adio: please stay in the #ubuntu channel where others can help you as well
[03:35] <E_Megas> zykotic10: No.
[03:36] <zykotic10> E_Megas: then try to follow the chroot directions and try again (is my only suggestion)
[03:36] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: not personally, your question is just a little confusion. you say the microphone works, so what is the problem?
[03:36] <E_Megas> zykotic10: Only one HDD and three partitions installed by default.
[03:36] <user> join #hardware
[03:36] <Veritas> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/FLTC0GLe
[03:37] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, when a program utilizes a recording device it will show up in pavucontrol under "Recording." You can, from there, change the recording device that it is utilizing. (IE. make a program recording from "Microphone 1" record from "Microphone 2")
[03:37] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, this works perfectly with everything except Flash. With Flash, no recording device shows up.
[03:37] <E_Megas> zykotic10: Oh yeah, and there isn't any other OS installed. The drive was empty prior to installation so Windows isn't involved in this.
[03:37] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, however Flash does record fine from any individual microphone I choose.
[03:37] <xangua> Veritas: that's not the command that is mentioned in !gpgerr
[03:38] <user> whats ubuntu
[03:38] <zykotic10> !ubuntu | user
[03:38] <Veritas> xangua, which command did you want the output of?
[03:38] <xangua> !gpgerr | Veritas read carefully this time
[03:39] <gisli_> quick question...how do I see when I first installed ubuntu? I'm talking about the current installation of course
[03:39] <user> thank you ubottu, is it similar to mint by linux?
[03:39] <user> gisli look at your cd rom drive
[03:39] <zykotic10> user: ubottu is a bot - not real person.  Mint is based on Ubuntu - so they are similar...
[03:39] <gisli_> user: hahaha what?
[03:40] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: ok, so how are you chosing the microphone for flash? dose flash have its own dialog for that?
[03:40] <gisli_> zykotic10: not all mint's are based on ubuntu
[03:40] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, yeah. However most other programs do too, and they still work fine with pavucontrol.
[03:40] <zykotic10> gisli_: lmde... ya there is that
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: my guess is that flash is plugging directly into alsa and bypassing pulseaudio completely
[03:41] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: when you *play* audio in flash, does it show up in pulseaudio's volume mixer?
[03:41] <Veritas> xangua, I tried what ubottu told me to do and this is the output I got: http://pastebin.com/73QbA9SK  If it's not standard, how do I find the GPG keyword for the repository?
[03:41] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, one second, I'll check.
[03:42] <xangua> Veritas: ubottu just told you the gpg key
[03:42] <Veritas> I tried it. Then I ran "sudo apt-get update" and get the same error
[03:42] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, it shows up as "ALSA Plugin [chrome]"
[03:43] <user> ubuntu looks different i should try it out
[03:43] <xangua> Veritas: run apt-get update again and if it doesn't work use the one you first get in your error message 16126D3A3E5C1192
[03:44] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: hmm, my guess is still that it's using pure alsa for the recording part (since alsa is more common across distros than pulseaudio)
[03:44] <user> how come they dont charge me for downloading it? or am i downloading from illegal website or something?
[03:44] <user> i like it free but just hope i am download correct one
[03:44] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, yeah. I did a bit of googling relating to Flash using ALSA and apparently it was a bug in 2009/2010 that was "fixed" in Ubuntu 11. There was no further information I could find.
[03:44] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: try using 16126D3A3E5C1192
[03:45] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, I don't know very much about linux. Would it be possible to force Flash to use PulseAudio, or would it use PulseAudio if ALSA was disabled?
[03:45] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: well, if it *is* using alsa, then you're basically stuck unless Adobe releases an update (and they've already announced the end of flash on linux)
[03:46] <zykotic10> snapdata: Pulse requires ALSA - one does not replace the other
[03:46] <fishcooker> is there any mechanism to make my box .. encrypted or secured from any violation?
[03:46] <DarwinSurvivor> fishcooker: please be more specific than "any violation"
[03:46] <kevin> any way to change the Switcher icon size? i can change the launcher icon sizes in ccsm but i dont see any option for the alt+tab switcher icons
[03:46] <SparCo213> Whats up all.
[03:47] <Veritas> xangua, DarwinSurvivor, this is the output from running apt-key, and using 16126...  : http://pastebin.com/UdMQEaZh
[03:47] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, zykotic10, oh. I do find it curious that the "ALSA Plugin" shows up when audio is played through Flash but not when a recording device is used.
[03:47] <DarwinSurvivor> fishcooker: when creating a new user (either with the installer, or the user control dialog), simply chose "encrypt my home folder" and your home-folder documents will automatically be encrypted
[03:48] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: pulseaudio playback is easier to implement than pulseaudio recording, so they may have only bothered with the playback part
[03:49] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, oh. I see. Well fuck. :\
[03:50] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: yep, you'll need to complain to Adobe most likely :(
[03:50] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, somehow I don't think that will do any good. haha
[03:51] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, with YouTube moving to HTML5 and Adobe apparently discontinuing flash for Linux, what do you think will replace it?
[03:51] <st3el__> discontinuing flash...
[03:52] <st3el__> dare i say impossible...
[03:52] <krababbel> I installed java6 and 7 jdk and when I uninstall them, they seem to be there still. sudo update-alternatives --config java gives me options, where before it said there was nothing to choose. How to remove them completely?
[03:52] <snapdata> krababbel, have you tried sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:53] <DarwinSurvivor> !purge | krababbel
[03:53] <st3el__> quit
[03:53] <DarwinSurvivor> snapdata: god willing, pure html, css & javascript!
[03:53] <st3el__> exit
[03:53] <st3el__> erm
[03:53] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: /quit
[03:53] <st3el__> ty
[03:54] <st3el__> how do i put the reason whhy
[03:54] <st3el__> ?
[03:54] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, we can dream...
[03:54] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: /quit my reason
[03:54] <DarwinSurvivor> st3el__: but you really don't need it
[03:54] <lifelike> Hey guys, I have a question and I think it can be solved really quickly
[03:54] <DarwinSurvivor> !ask | lifelike
[03:55] <lifelike> !patience
[03:55] <lifelike> !ask
[03:55] <krababbel> snapdata: I did autoremove
[03:55] <Veritas> DarwinSurvivor, I tried what you said, and posted the output. It didn't work
[03:55] <DarwinSurvivor> krababbel: did you try the purge command?
[03:55] <snapdata> krababbel, if that didn't work, DarwinSurvivor mentioned purging
[03:55] <krababbel> DarwinSurvivor: I'll try purge too.
[03:56] <apan__> krababbel: try dpkg -l | grep package, and then autoremove
[03:56] <krababbel> apan__: I'll try thank you
[03:56] <apan__> apt-get autoremove --purge (packages)
[03:56] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: what was your question?
[03:57] <exxtreme> I installed 12.04 using the mini.iso cd. Setup Lubuntu.  Worked fine until i "sudo apt-get upgrade".  Then got a black screen on reboot.
[03:57] <lifelike> After I updated to 12.04 from 11.10, I tried running shrewsoft vpn and it connected to my vpn just fine. After that, I restarted and since then I can only get internet access through the vpn. Even after restarts.
[03:57] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: I was trying to put everything in one line and make it short :)
[03:58] <Veritas> DarwinSurvivor: I tried what you said, and posted the output. It didn't work
[03:58] <lifelike> exxtreme: Try pressing the shift button repeatedly when you get to that screen.
[03:58] <snapdata> DarwinSurvivor, thank you for helping so many people.  :)
[03:59] <exxtreme> lifelike, i get the login screen.  When i enter my password, then the screen goes black.  Shift didn't help.
[03:59] <exxtreme> strange cause all i did was upgrade, only a few packages corrupted it..
[03:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: I don't see the link, can you post it again?
[04:00] <lifelike> exxtreme: Have you tried a different kernel?
[04:01] <exxtreme> lifelike, i was probably using the generic (non-pae?) kernel, and it worked fine until i upgraded.
[04:01] <Onixs> when i do "cat" to insert string, "$" is being dropped
[04:01] <Onixs> any idea
[04:01] <alusion> I am creating a partition on an external HD for linux, do I go with ext 3 or ext 4?
[04:01] <philippefs35> Hello everyone. I'm fairly new to linux (I manage to run a small lamp server, server build (no GUI), but that's about it). I'd like to use my server to schedule the weekly recording of an asx stream to an mp3 file. Can anyone help me?
[04:01] <Veritas> DarwinSurvivor: http://pastebin.com/UdMQEaZh
[04:02] <maestrojed> I compile something with "make prefix=/usr/local all" when I run "make prefix=/usr/local all install" it targets /usr/root/bin which doesn't exist and doesn't seem right. Can anyone help?
[04:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: nono, the output of the purge command
[04:02] <DarwinSurvivor> !purge | Veritas
[04:02] <lifelike> Onixs: When you use cat in bash, it prints out the stdin (standard input) that you give it
[04:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: oh wait, hold on
[04:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: sorry, got you and krababbel confused :P
[04:02] <Veritas> DarwinSurvivor: No problem :) Thanks for helping everyone
[04:02] <exxtreme> ok, I ctrl-alt-f1 to the terminal...Anything I can do to restore my previously working system?
[04:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Veritas: I do my best
[04:03] <dirtyfreebooter> anyone know why oprofile package was deleted in 12.04? I cannot seem to extract a reason from anywhere on the net...
[04:03] <lifelike> Onixs: So if you just type in "cat" and then type something, it'll print out what you typed
[04:03] <alusion> ext3 or ext4?
[04:03] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Any idea what could cause my problem?
[04:03] <lifelike> I came here looking for help, instead I started helping others lol
[04:04] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: where did you get the software from?
[04:04] <trism_> dirtyfreebooter: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653168
[04:04] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: and what changes (if any) did you make in ubuntu to set it up?
[04:05] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: ubuntu uses ext4 by default, just go with that. the only time ext4 is an issue (in my experience) is if you need to share the partition with a BSD system
[04:05] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: I had setup shrewsoft vpn (through the Software Center) with a config file from my vpn provider
[04:05] <dirtyfreebooter> trism_: thanks!
[04:05] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: After that I upgraded to 12.04 and then later tried the vpn
[04:05] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: No changes besides the upgrade
[04:05] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: can you post a link to your vpn's instructions?
[04:05] <alusion> DarwinSurvivor, What does BSD mean?
[04:06] <windbuntu> its a unix like OS alusion
[04:06] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: It was just a shrewsoft vpn config file really.
[04:06] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: FreeBSD, OpenDSD, etc. If you don't know what they are, you WON'T have that issue :)
[04:06] <zykotic10> windbuntu: it is unix ;)
[04:06] <alusion> Ahhh that is right. Thanks.
[04:07] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: can you open ubuntu's proxy configuration dialog?
[04:08] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, I checked that too. I made sure it's blank. The connections for my wireless network haven't been modified either.
[04:08] <alusion> If I am partitioning an external that is originally formatted as NTFS should I create it as extended or primary?
[04:08] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: and you can't get online with wireless *or* wired?
[04:08] <philippefs35> Sorry if I'm blind, but is there a protocol to asking questions in here (bot command, or something)?
[04:08] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Basically, I can connect to any wireless network just fine. But I don't have internet access. I can't even ping a website.
[04:08] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: wireless _and_ wired.
[04:08] <zykotic10> !ask > philippefs35
[04:10] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, can you please pastebin the output of "ifconfig; route; traceroute google.com"?
[04:11] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: do that with the vpn disabled (no internet), then again with it enable (with internet)
[04:11] <psyclone> can someone help me with an object-oriented c++ program using structs
[04:11] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: One problem, I removed shrewsoft hoping it would fix the problem >.<
[04:12] <DarwinSurvivor> psyclone: please ask in the #c++ channel
[04:12] <psyclone> ok
[04:12] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Alright I can do that, but you'll have to give me a few minutes. I only have this one machine and I'm on a windows partition right now
[04:12] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, then just try it without the vpn
[04:12] <arthurdent> so does anyone know if the pepper api flash has been released and how to get it?
[04:12] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok
[04:12] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: I'll be back!
[04:12] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: alright
[04:15] <arthurdent> anyone? bueler?
[04:15] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | arthurdent
[04:17] <ShadowFios> so
[04:18] <ShadowFios> i have a ST9120310AS drive, how do i find if its an SDD or not?
[04:18] <myrmidette> hello, my wifi isn't working and here's my nm-tool output http://pastebin.com/9b6KEDVb . This has me kind of baffled, where do I start fixing it?
[04:19] <zykotic10> ShadowFios: ST9120310AS Momentus 5400.5 SATA 3Gb/s 120-GB Hard Drive
[04:19] <ShadowFios> zykotic10: yea i googled it
[04:19] <arthurdent> ShadowFios: what is an sdd?
[04:19] <ShadowFios> zykotic10: solid state drive
[04:19] <arthurdent> it's not
[04:19] <zykotic10> arthurdent: see above
[04:19] <arthurdent> solid state drive = SSD i was wondering if you meant something else.
[04:20] <ShadowFios> ok thx
[04:20] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: could you repeat the previous message you told me to try. I closed my browser to soon.
[04:20] <Onixs> lifelike : im not printing out a file from cat. im making a script out of cat
[04:21] <DarwinSurvivor> ShadowFios: http://www.hdsentinel.com/storageinfo_details.php?lang=en&model=SEAGATE%20ST9120310AS shows it as a 5400 HDD (not ssd)
[04:21] <Onixs> all "$1 , $xxxx" are bieng dropped
[04:21] <ShadowFios> DarwinSurvivor: ive been there but i wasnt really sure if it was or not. thx
[04:22] <gisli> I've got a little problem. I'm trying to install a few weeks worth of updates but I'm getting the error that /boot doesn't have enough space? In synaptic there are linux-headers[33,38,39] and linux-image [38,39] installed. Is it okay to completely remove headers for 33 and 38 and the image for 38?
[04:22] <myrmidette> http://pastebin.com/N6EXgsDd
[04:22] <gisli> 39 is in use right now
[04:22] <myrmidette> what do I do?
[04:22] <lifelike> Onixs: I don't think there is a way to catch the $sign since that's apart of the shell
[04:23] <Onixs> lifelike : ahh ok.. understood
[04:23] <Onixs> Thanks :)
[04:23] <lifelike> Can anyone copy paste Darwin's last few replied to me. I don't have chat history on my device!
[04:23] <dr_willis> gisli:  should be safe.  how big is your /boot/ partition anyway?
[04:23] <lifelike> Onixs: no problem, sorry that wasn't much help though.
[04:24] <Onixs> one last thing lifelike , alternative to cat that will work with $signs ?
[04:24] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: can you please pastebin "ifconfig; route; ping -c 5 192.168.42.129"?
[04:24] <gisli> dr_willis:52MB, I think I've always had it 52MB but I've never had this problem before
[04:25] <dr_willis> gisli: these days. the need for a seperate /boot/ is minimal. :) I make mine a few GB - but thats because i set uo grub2 to boot ISO images from /boot/ so i can boot/install the os - totally from the hd if needed.
[04:26] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, can you please pastebin the output of "ifconfig; route; traceroute google.com"?
[04:26] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: i think that's the only important one
[04:27] <lifelike> Onixs: try "cat -E"
[04:27] <myrmidette> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/GXyr9XBT
[04:27] <gisli> dr_willis: yeah my next installation will not contain a /boot partition. I went a little crazy when I was partitioning for my last install :)
[04:27] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: rest should show up at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/10/%23ubuntu.html in about 4 minutes (half-hour lagg I believe)
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: ok, now "ping -c 5 google.com"
[04:28] <dr_willis> gisli:  ive gotten in the habbit of just using primary partitions. so i have 4 partitions max.   /boot  / /home and swap    normally.
[04:28] <rollitup> I installed apache2 mysql phpmyadmin
[04:28] <myrmidette> DarwinSurvivor, it'll work, do I still need to pastebin?
[04:28] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: no
[04:28] <myrmidette> I'm chatting to you after all so I have internet
[04:29] <rollitup> and I wnated to know if I can have my public_html on the NTFS partition ?
[04:29] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: if those are working, what *isn't* working...?
[04:29] <myrmidette> my wireless
[04:29] <myrmidette> I'm on a wired usb connection right now
[04:29] <dr_willis> rollitup:  most likely  posssible - but not a good idea. since the  security/permissions will be a hassle to deal with
[04:29] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: do you have another computer you can chat on? it's pointless trying to debug something that isn't being used...
[04:29] <rollitup> ok
[04:30] <rollitup> thanx dr_willis
[04:30] <gisli> dr_willis: yeah I have that "scheme" on my laptop but my next install will be without the /boot or I'll just make it bigger, enough space for it actually
[04:30] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: you still there?
[04:30] <myrmidette> DarwinSurvivor, well it's really uncomfortable sitting here under the desk with my laptop
[04:30] <myrmidette> I'd rather be sitting on the couch with wifi
[04:31] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, I'm using irc through my phone right now. Please give me a minute.
[04:31] <c00p> Has anyone got the newest Mac Mini's wireless working on 12.04? Is there a driver ?
[04:31] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: I understand that, but we can't debug the wifi if you are currently using the wireless. do you have a second computer you can chat on so you can disconnect the wired from your laptop?
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: alright
[04:32] <myrmidette> wait, what?
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> !mac | c00p
[04:33] <myrmidette> DarwinSurvivor, ok I'll get on  a second computer
[04:33] <myrmidette> and disconnect from this one
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> myrmidette: you said your wireless is not working and that you are currently chatting using the wired on the affected computer. it is nearly impossible to debug a bad wireless connection while the wired connection is being used. the easiest way to do this is to use a *different* computer for the irc chat so you can disconnect the wired from the "broken" computer
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Myrtti: oh, seems you left 2 messages while i typed that one :P
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Myrtti: sorry, wrong id :(
[04:35] <c00p> ubottu: ta. I have it installed on the Mac Mini and everything works except wireles in 12.04 - just wondering if I can isntall some extra kernel modules etc. to make it work
[04:35] <c00p> dam
[04:35] <c00p> lol
[04:35] <silouck> ubottu: yes you are
[04:35] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: here is the paste bin link http://pastebin.com/PhHjpHrN
[04:36] <silouck> ubottu: stop with that or i will ban you
[04:36] <gisli> I've never seen this before. I've been here about 15minutes and three people have answered the bot :D
[04:36] <silouck> ubottu: thats it, your banned from my list
[04:37] <silouck> gisli: he thinks he cn trick me
[04:38] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, I'm guessing you can't install traceroute (with no internet), can you run "ping -c 5 192.168.2.1; ping -c 5 173.194.79.94; ping -c 5 google.ca"?
[04:38] <zykotic10> !gender > silouck
[04:39] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: a quick answer is that I can ping my router and access anything locally, again but no internet access
[04:39] <rollitup> I am also trying to follow this tutorial to create virtual host after installing apache2 mysql phpmyadmin https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP however when creating the test html page i get an error that says  bash: /home/astrix/public_html/index.html: Permission denied
[04:39] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, that helps
[04:39] <silouck> zykotic10: you think your funny
[04:39] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: can you ping your routers *external* ip?
[04:40] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: and you get an "unreacheable" error when pinging outside the network right?
[04:41] <alusion> Hello, I was unable to shrink the filesystem in gparted  > ntfsresize -P --force --force /dev/sdb1 -s 790133473279 --no-action
[04:42] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: please pastebin the *entire* terminal session including the command you ran and any output you got
[04:42] <violinappren> rollitup: sudo
[04:42] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: I can ping the 173 IP address, even goggles DNS server 8.8.8.8 but no domain name
[04:42] <myrmidette> DarwinSurvivor: ok I'm back. I disconnected the problematic computer like you told me to, but I don't think I'll be able to pastebin anything from it now.
[04:42] <Guest6878> Does anyone know a thing or two about iptables? I'm having a very difficult time with IP Masquerading.
[04:42] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ok, then it's not a routing issue, it's a DNS issue!
[04:43] <lifelike> darwinsurvivor: I'm guessing my SMS server is messed up then DarwinSurvivor
[04:43] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: please pastebin the contents of /etc/resolve.conf
[04:43] <violinappren> rollitup: echo '<b>Hello! It is working!</b>' | sudo tee /home/user/public_html/index.html
[04:43] <AyaneForever> On XFCE, (#Xubuntu is dead) Has anyone ever used lightdm to lock the screen? I've done a some research already to use it instead of xscreensaver but I haven't found much luck.
[04:43] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: it says resolve.Conf doesn't exist!
[04:43] <DarwinSurvivor> !ask | Guest6878
[04:44] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | Guest6878
[04:44] <lifelike> Could this possibly be my problem?
[04:44] <stevedtrrrrm> oioi :)
[04:44] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: now THAT is a problem!
[04:44] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Haha
[04:44] <zykotic10> lifelike: check /etc/resolv.conf
[04:44] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: as a test, can you open network manager and set your DNS to 8.8.8.8?
[04:45] <zykotic10> lifelike: and if you use Network Manager resolv.conf doesn't really apply
[04:45] <stevedtrrrrm> ello people
[04:45] <lifelike> Doing this on a mobile is hard :)
[04:45] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: lol. just try the manual DNS address and see if that fixes it
[04:46] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: if it does, then it's definitely some kind of DNS misconfiguration
[04:46] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: it may be trying to use a DNS server that's only available on the on VPN
[04:46] <Guest6878> I have a problem with IP Masquerading in iptables on Ubuntu Server version 12.04 LTS. When I try to ping any internet site it fails. I expect it to work.
[04:46] <stevedtrrrrm> any1 here?
[04:46] <stevedtrrrrm> helooo?
[04:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest6878: please explain *exactly* how you set it up, what tests you ran and what output you received
[04:47] <silouck> no one here
[04:47] <trism_> AyaneForever: the code is there but the patches were reverted in gnome-screensaver (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/878836/comments/12 ) so you would probably need to rebuild some packages to get it to work. we may see it in 12.10 once the system compositor is in
[04:48] <silouck> what the hell is ayatana
[04:48] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Setting the DNS to googles doesn't work
[04:48] <DarwinSurvivor> trism_: oh cool, that means there's a brainstorm idea I can mark as "in progress" :D
[04:48] <Waraudon> Why does 12.04 "Wait for network configuration" at boot even though there's no cable connected?
[04:48] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: I'm paying the contents of resolv.conf
[04:48] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: what error do you get when trying to ping google.com
[04:49] <Guest6878> This is the line added to /etc/rc.local here: /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[04:49] <missuse> hi guys is there any app that can be used to check which process is using the internet for downloading
[04:49] <stevedtrrrrm> im an utter linux noob. can i run linux on windows? and whats the easiest quickest way to do it? i have an old laptop here i wanna try it on. 750 MB of RAM.
[04:49] <DarwinSurvivor> Guest6878: where did you get the instructions? I've never seen iptables commands put into rc.local before
[04:49] <missuse> i'm having problem , something keep downloading and hogging the internet line
[04:50] <DarwinSurvivor> missuse: "netstat -pant"
[04:50] <lifelike> Darwinsurvivor: it says unknown host Google.com
[04:50] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: without a capital right? (i assume you have autocorrect on your phone)
[04:50] <silouck> what the hell is ayatana, is somehow related to Iran and the ayatolas?
[04:51] <lifelike> Darwinsurvivor: I think I found the issue in resolve.Conf
[04:51] <Guest6878> DarwinSurvivor I've found several sites so far that provide these instructions. Here's one of them: http://www.howtoforge.com/nat-gateway-iptables-port-forwarding-dns-and-dhcp-setup-ubuntu-8.10-server
[04:51] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: cool
[04:51] <silouck> now Iran is using Ubuntu to invande the ocident
[04:51] <lifelike> The domain is set to my organization
[04:51] <zykotic10> lifelike: the file is resolv.conf not resolve.conf
[04:52] <lifelike> Darwinsurvivor: and name server of the organization too
[04:52] <Guest6878> DarwinSurvivor Where do you usually see commands put?
[04:52] <philippefs35> stevedrrrrm: Look at VMware Workstation. It allows you to run linux (or pretty much any other OS) whithin Windows, in a window.
[04:52] <lifelike> thanks zykotic10, you're right
[04:53] <lifelike> Darwinsurvivor: what do I change the resolve.Conf file too?
[04:53] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: ah, that may cause issues
[04:53] <DarwinSurvivor> zykotic10: thank you for the correction
[04:53] <alusion> Is there a key binding program for ubuntu that makes it easy to create custom key bindings and shortcuts (Using a Logitech G510 btw)
[04:54] <lifelike> Darwinsurvivor: yes especially since I'm not routing through it
[04:54] <mdishi> anyone know any app can be use to monitor which process is hogging the internet line ?
[04:54] <mdishi> any easy to use monitor ?
[04:54] <pungi-man> mdishi, U can use iptraf
[04:54] <pungi-man> sudo apt-get install iptraf
[04:55] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: you shouldn't have to mess with resolv.conf, what-ever connection you are using (network manager in your case) will deal with that for you. any changes you make will get overwritten on reconnect anyways
[04:55] <mdishi> pungi is it a gui type of app ?
[04:56] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor:  Do you know why it isn't being overwritten now then?
[04:57] <maverick> can someone here help me with some basic linux bash scripting?
[04:57] <violinappren> !info nethogs | mdishi
[04:57] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: not sure, maybe a change to network manager. zykotic10 mentioned network manager using a slightly different system now
[04:57] <violinappren> !details | maverick
[04:57] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[04:57] <maverick> need to construct a switch case statement | violinappren
[04:57] <mdishi> violinappren , can that be use to kill off the process ?
[04:57] <DarwinSurvivor> maverick: please use the #bash channel for scripting help
[04:58] <maverick> ok. thank you | darwinSurvivor
[04:58] <violinappren> mdishi:  man pkill
[04:58] <violinappren> maverick: pastebin what you're trying to do
[04:58] <mdishi> violinappren , is man pkill another app ?
[04:58] <maverick> sorry vi.. am new to IRC.. what is pastebin?
[04:59] <hanasaki> what is a good system to setup a small biz that can handle... email, vpn, ssh, ldap based ?
[04:59] <hanasaki> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openvpn-als/   <= is OLD
[04:59] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Fixed it! I just had to comment out the nameserver and domain!
[04:59] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: WOOOOH!
[05:00] <violinappren> mdishi: man is a command that shows the manual pages of  commands and system functions.  "man pkill"  will show you how to use pkill to kill a process by name
[05:00] <DarwinSurvivor> lifelike: now do a reboot and make sure it *stays* fixed :)
[05:00] <violinappren> !pastebin | maverick
[05:00] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks a lot!
[05:01] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: Will do.
[05:01] <lifelike> DarwinSurvivor: :)
[05:05] <maverick> violina : http://paste.ubuntu.com/979260/
[05:05] <maverick> hope i did it right :P
[05:06] <alusion> DarwinSurvivor, I have the gparted_details saved. The same error occured again when trying to resize the partition, what could I be doing wrong? http://www.mediafire.com/?8be7wa9i23p4x12
[05:08] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: can you post a screenshot showing the gparted layout and the error message both displayed?
[05:08] <xmad> Quick question, is GNU Screen bundled with a standard Ubuntu desktop install?
[05:08] <DarwinSurvivor> xmad: no
[05:09] <DarwinSurvivor> xmad: actually, it may be now (update manager uses it i think). double-checking!
[05:09] <xmad> oh
[05:10] <zykotic10> !info screen
[05:10] <xmad> I don't have access to an ubuntu box right now, couldn't figure out online. thanks for checking =)
[05:10] <DarwinSurvivor> xmad: nope, doesn't look like it, but you can always install from software center (or apt-get)
[05:11] <Gosset_Inofensiu> Hello everybody, got a big problem here, i can't log in gnome-shell, just gnome-fallback, what can I do? I've tried to reinstall gnome, but it removed my ati radeon drivers and had to resintall them.
[05:11] <maverick> !info join
[05:11] <xmad> thanks DarwinSurvivor zykotic10
[05:11] <violinappren> maverick: you will have to use if/else
[05:11] <DarwinSurvivor> xmad: also check out byobu (screen + extras) and tmux (complete re-write)
[05:12] <DarwinSurvivor> xmad: i personally use tmux, but pick which-ever *you* like best
[05:12] <maverick> violinappren : not possible using switch?
[05:12] <violinappren> maverick: case works on "pattern matching"  not boolean expressions
[05:12] <maverick> violinappren: thanks..
[05:12] <peepsalot> hi, i have a digital camera that mounts sdcard as gphoto2.  i'm wondering if i can use the sdcard directly as a block device.  i want to dd to the card, i don't have  a regular card reader
[05:12] <sajimon> hi, does anyone have problem with X artifacts when resuming to graphics mode from text console, or resuming from sleep?
[05:13] <gry> sajimon, what kind of problems?
[05:13] <gry> sajimon, reply to channel rather than me, I am just asking to clarify but I'll not be the one to help you yet
[05:13] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: why do you need to dd the card?
[05:13] <peepsalot> DarwinSurvivor, to put an bootable image on it for raspberry pi
[05:14] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: oh, ok. if you have it mounted run "mount" to find out where the block device is
[05:14] <sajimon> my screen as i said, screen gets full of graphic artifacts, esspecialy unity bar and top panel
[05:14] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, what is the best delphi tool for ubuntu?
[05:14] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: no guarantees however on how the camera's interface works.
[05:15] <xmad> DarwinSurvivor: I personally use and love tmux, but at work I ssh to a remote server that has screen but not tmux and I was kinda sad since.. you know, screen sucks. But this story may be offtopic so I'll just stop =p
[05:15] <totesmuhgoats> delphi still exists?
[05:15] <haus> i'm seeing conflicting information in the upstart cookbook. when was the manual stanza added? (one version says 0.6.7 and another says 1.3.0)
[05:15] <peepsalot> i don't see it in mount.  nautilus shows the location asgphoto2://[usb:003,005]/
[05:15] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[05:15] <violinappren> Um_cara_qualquer: check lazarus
[05:16] <peepsalot> i guess i probably need a real card reader
[05:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> violinappren, thx man
[05:16] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: try "df -h" as well
[05:16] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: if that doesn't work, I have one more little trick you can try
[05:16] <peepsalot> sucks cause i have one in my laptop but it doesn't seem to recognize.  possibly because i dropped the laptop and it's cracked right there at the sd slot
[05:17] <peepsalot> DarwinSurvivor, df -h doesn't show it either
[05:17] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: run "ls /dev/ > 1" then unplug it and count to 10. then run "ls /dev/ > 2" and then "diff 1 2"
[05:18] <peepsalot> nothin :-(
[05:20] <alusion> DarwinSurvivor, I was not able to capture that screenshot of the gparted layout and error message, I had already closed the window. I can however recall the information
[05:20] <ffm01011974> !lista
[05:20] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: try "ls -R" instead of "ls" in both instances
[05:20] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: if that doesn't show anything, then it's probably a weird protocol
[05:21] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: your camera may have an "act as removeable storage" mode or something you can turn on (my gps has the same thing)
[05:21] <ffm01011974> !lista
[05:21] <gry> sajimon, ok, is is possible to make a screenshot? what hardware are you using?
[05:21] <zykotic10> DarwinSurvivor: gphoto2 would suggest it can't...
[05:21] <gry> !list > ffm01011974
[05:22] <peepsalot> DarwinSurvivor, if i do ls -R then i can see, there is /dev/bus/usb/003/006  and /dev/char/189:261
[05:22] <alusion> Can I make external hard drives to multiboot different Distro's with respective partitions? (like splitting a 1tb into 4 distros 250gb partition each)
[05:22] <alusion> Yumi will work just fine with HDD's right? I have only done it to flash drives :o
[05:22] <dr_willis> alusion:  yes. you may need to handle the  bootloader by hand for some configs
[05:23] <DarwinSurvivor> peepsalot: yeah, then it's definitely a special protocol. if you can find a setting in the camera to change the usb mode, then that might work. otherwise you're SOL as far as using the camera for a block device interface
[05:23] <dr_willis> yumi boots the iso files i beliove. grub2 can do that also alusion
[05:23] <peepsalot> DarwinSurvivor, ok, kinda what i figured, thanks anyways
[05:23] <ffm01011974> !lista
[05:23] <dr_willis> alusion:  yoiu could setup grub2 on a ubuntu install to boot alternative iso files if yoiu wanted also
[05:23] <K-Rich> later all
[05:23] <alusion> Would you recommend me any good quick reference guides? I have the iso's and would like to look into grub2 more
[05:24] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: yes, you can put as many linux distros on your ext. hdd as you like (barring restrictions on number of partitions of course)
[05:24] <dr_willis> alusion:  dozens of guides on getting grub2 booting iso files. Seen many tagged at delicious.com
[05:24] <john> hi, i cant untick "disable hardware acceleration" from flash player in ubuntu 12.04 with unity but i can do this in other desktop enviroments/graph shells/win managers such as gnome shell ,unity 2d and xfce. is it known bug of compiz?
[05:24] <dr_willis> alusion:  the pendrivelinux site i think has some guides/tools also
[05:25] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: just install them as usual. almost all linux distro's will make all the others appear in grub without issue
[05:25] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: it shouldn't be any different that setting up multi-boot on an internal hdd
[05:25] <alusion> yes I have familiarity with the pendrivelinux tools so I might as well start there eh?
[05:25] <dr_willis> john souds like an old bug. where you cant click on the menus/buttons in the flash settings. there used to be some work arounds. ONE i recall was holding down the right mouse button, and then trying toi click on the button
[05:26] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[05:26] <vp18> anyone knows how to use conky
[05:26] <missuse> hi guys i can't get this nethogs running
[05:26] <missuse> ioctl failed while establishing local IP for selected device eth0. You may specify the device on the command line.
[05:26] <dr_willis> vp18:  conky has tons and tons of docs out about it.
[05:26] <missuse> i got the above messsge
[05:27] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: so sleep works fine when done manually (via the menus) but not automatically when closing the lid?
[05:27] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor yep
[05:27] <vp18> well i install it via synaptics but can't get it to work
[05:27] <vp18> i got ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[05:27] <dr_willis> vp18:  so you open a terminal and run 'conky' and it does what exactly?
[05:27] <alusion> Thank you, dr_willis, for showing me that Delicious.com site, it is a treasure to me already.
[05:27] <DarwinSurvivor> missuse: you need to add the interface to the command (eth0, wlan0, etc) that you want to monitory
[05:28] <vp18> nothing...
[05:28] <john> dr_willis it also doesnt work with keyboard
[05:28] <dr_willis> alusion:  my bookmarks are  there under delicious.com/dr_willis
[05:28] <vp18> i don't see the eye candy or anything
[05:28] <missuse> darwinsurvivor how to do that ?
[05:28] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor since the user is a student that uses a padded pouch for it, a closed but running laptop is not a good thing...
[05:29] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: and you checked the "power" setting in the control panel?
[05:29] <dr_willis> vp18:  what desktop are you using? normal unity? gnome-shell?
[05:29] <haus> okay, different upstart question. does it matter where the manual stanza appears in an upstart configuration or will it only undefine 'start on' stanzas before the manual stanza?
[05:29] <john> i mean select it with tab and then untick with space  button
[05:29] <vp18> ?
[05:29] <missuse> darwinsurvivor how to check which one is my internet connection using ?
[05:29] <vp18> i got unity and cairo dock
[05:30] <dr_willis> vp18:  id check the askubuntu.com site to see if anyone has a tweaked conky config for working with unity.  it could be conky is running - but under the desktop for some reason.
[05:30] <DarwinSurvivor> missuse: pastebin the output of "ifconfig" and i'll tell you
[05:31] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: if on wired, probably eth0. if on wireless, probably wlan0. some systems are a little different though
[05:31] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor Yep, there is no option about what to do when the laptop is closed, only what to do when on/off battery and what to do when the power button is pressed
[05:32] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: it would appear that ubuntu is not detecting the lid switch then.
[05:32] <missuse> hehehe i figure out thanks guys
[05:32] <hata[sc]> ¡ñ hi ¡ñ
[05:32] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[05:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: probably easiest to use pastebinit: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit"
[05:33] <Samanagh> Anyone use Fluxbox here?
[05:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Samanagh: if you have a support question, just ask the question and anyone that can answer it will do so. if you are looking for general chat and application preferences, please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <alusion> Does anyone here use CrashPlan?
[05:34] <Jimu> I played with Fluxbox long ago. Life is too short
[05:36] <john> still can't disable it, another nasty bug is that overlay scrollbars dont work very well with xchat
[05:36] <Samanagh> Jimu life's too short?
[05:37] <mintux> I would like to see my desktop via browser but my problem is the remote vnc on browser doesn't show my current desktop and it seems it made new session when I use this command : vncserver :1  iv got A VNC server is already running as :1 but it's not true .. so what shall I do?
[05:37] <Jimu> Yeah, I don't see a compelling reason to use it these days
[05:38] <dr_willis> mintux:  thats how vnc can work.
[05:39] <dr_willis> mintux:  gnomes 'vino' vnc server can share the current visible desktop - if you enable it
[05:39] <mintux> dr_willis:but I don't have access via browser with vino?
[05:39] <dr_willis> mintux:  vncserver -kill :1      should kill off any vnc server on port1
[05:40] <dr_willis> mintux:  brower?  not clear on what you mean
[05:41] <ktchk> Hi when installing gimp-2.7 for ubuntu 10.04 lts (rtai) libgimp-2.0.0 need el and en-CA language support. any work arround?
[05:41] <mintux> dr_willis: now I can see my desktop (new session) with http and 5903 port it's a java applet . I want to see desktop with browser
[05:41] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor would that still be the case when the backlight goes off? http://pastebin.com/p8krha0h
[05:42] <dr_willis> mintux:  theres the x11vnserver or perhaps a vino option. but ive not used the vnc 'web' feature in years.. i found it too slow. i always use a normal vnc client
[05:42] <mintux> dr_willis: I ran vncserver -kill :1 it said to me Can't find file /home/mrg/.vnc/mrg-System-Product-Name:1.pid
[05:42] <dr_willis> mintux:  check ps ax | grep vnc     to  see how many vncsessions you got running.
[05:42] <mintux> when I want to use it ..it said it's using when I want to kill it, it said there is no ...
[05:43] <dr_willis> its easy to accidently spawn extra vnc sessions.
[05:43] <dr_willis> you are telling it to use :1  - it could be theres a stale pid file also in your .vnc dir
[05:44] <dr_willis> just 'vncserver' will selext the next open port
[05:44] <mintux> I see something here
[05:44] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: yes, the backlight is most likely directly turned off in hardware
[05:44] <mintux> http://codepad.org/UTfswNZb
[05:44] <dr_willis> you could  always use a 'killall vncserver' perhaps  and clean out the .pid files and other extra files in .vnc
[05:44] <dr_willis> but thats a little overkill
[05:45] <mintux> I killall Xtightvnc now I have 3352 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --colour=auto vnc
[05:46] <dr_willis> mintux:  yes.. thats grep showing its self. ;)
[05:46] <dr_willis> logical eh
[05:46] <mintux> :-D
[05:47] <dr_willis> i alwyas use the absolute lightest most minimal window manager i can - when using vnc.  too fancy a desktoop can slow it down too much
[05:47] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: does the following file exist on your system?: /proc/acpi/button/lib/LID0/state ?
[05:48] <john> is there any way to disable overlay scrollbars in specific apps, something like $UBUNTU_MENUPROXY for global menu
[05:50] <Nom-> Hey Guys... are there any good tools for having a first boot wizard on Ubuntu Server?  We want something to reconfigure hostname & ip address after cloning a template but we're not ready to use VMWare Guest Customizations just yet
[05:50] <BAcKrOnY> how i can register my nick?
[05:51] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor in button I have "lid" not "lib" but yeah, I've got the state file
[05:51] <BAcKrOnY> how i can register my nick?
[05:51] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: ok, give me a sec
[05:51] <bazhang> !register | BAcKrOnY
[05:51] <ludkiller> try /msg nickserv register urpassword emailid@email.com
[05:51] <bazhang> BAcKrOnY, /join #freenode
[05:51] <dr_willis> john:  i thought there was. check the webupd8 blog site - if it is doable they most likely mention it.
[05:52] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: run "while true; do cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state | tee -a log; sleep 1; done"
[05:53] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: you should see the same word printed out over and over, what is it?
[05:53] <Samanagh> Is there a simple way of making it so that alt tab only works between windows in your current workspace? Seems very counter intuitive to me..
[05:53] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor closed
[05:54] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: ok, now close the lid, count to 5 and re-open it.
[05:54] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: once you've done that tell me if you see anything in the list other than "closed"
[05:54] <dr_willis> count to 5,tap your heels together 3 times... say the magic words.. ;)
[05:55] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: lol
[05:55] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: if only things were that easy :(
[05:55] <dr_willis> figure out some way to change his wallpaper when he closed the  lid and make it show a scary face... ;P
[05:55] <DarwinSurvivor> bahaha
[05:55] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor nope, still closed
[05:56] <dr_willis> ive learned to NEVER trust the pc doing things automatically when closeing the Lid.. in Linux OR in windows..
[05:56] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: ok, then it appears that acpi (what handles the hardware -> software interface) is detecting your lid switch, but not that it is being triggered
[05:56] <dr_willis> had a laptop almost burn up one day  doing that..
[05:57] <StarryNight> trusting windows is like trusting obama NOT to fake his birth certificate
[05:57] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: do you by any chance have a directory for LID1 in the same place as LID0?
[05:57] <Terminus_> windows 7 has been quite decent with laptop power management. linux OTOH i've never had any luck with.
[05:57] <Terminus_> i've learned to just run pm-suspend manually.
[05:57] <dr_willis> ive had windos 7 work... unless i was running any apps.. ;)
[05:58] <Terminus_> dr_willis: yeah... apps telling windows to never suspend would be a problem. =)
[05:58] <hata> ´ó¼ÒºÃ
[05:58] <dr_willis> ive shut the lid on my win  7 laptop. opened it an hr later... then watch as it  then decided to unsuspend, and actually shutdown.. ;)
[05:58]  * hata hata
[05:58]  * hata ÓÐÖÐ¹úÈËÂð
[05:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Terminus_: and I've learned that no matter HOW you trigger it, you always check for the sleep indicator on the led array
[05:59] <john> dr_willis, thank you
[05:59] <Terminus_> DarwinSurvivor: that too. i always check the indictor whether it's windows, osx, linux, etc.
[06:00] <Terminus_> if only because i don't want to move my laptop until the drive heads are parked.
[06:00] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: there was only 1 mention of the backlight in your dmesg (setting it to default values) and I haven't come across any errors. unfortunately I'm not a hardware guru, so I'm not going to be able to do much else for you
[06:00] <ZetaRC121> dr_willis well on my desktop it usually starts working when I threaten to hit it with the hammer, this laptop is unimpressed by threats though...
[06:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: I can tell you that "acpi is detecting a lid switch but not the open event"
[06:01] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor sorry, got disconnected...
[06:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: I've often found having someone *else* threaten it is much more effective
[06:02] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: you didn't miss any messages
[06:03] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: I did find this person with the same issue, but I don't see a fix http://www.mail-archive.com/acpi-bugzilla@lists.sourceforge.net/msg34032.html
[06:03] <CommaCrazy> hi all, I have a bit of a problem. Every time I pull out the LAN cable and put it back in or go into stand-by mode and come back I have no network connection
[06:04] <DarwinSurvivor> Zeit|awy_: you're best bet is to file a bug report and follow these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[06:04] <ZetaRC121> DarwinSurvivor but yeah, status unchanged, state: closed
[06:04] <CommaCrazy> any one?
[06:05] <DarwinSurvivor> ZetaRC121: if/when you file the bug report, include the test script I had you run.
[06:05] <DarwinSurvivor> CommaCrazy: pleaes be more specific. do you simply have to wait a few seconds, or do you have to reconnect (using the drop-down) or is it toast until you reboot?
[06:07] <trupheenix> how do i change my hard drive password? i have encrypted the hard drive password using LUKS.
[06:09] <netwrkspider> hii
[06:09] <netwrkspider> all
[06:09] <netwrkspider> i need web server load testing tool
[06:10] <DarwinSurvivor> netwrkspider: please be more specific. technically "ping my_server" is a load test...
[06:14] <netwrkspider> @DarwinSurvivor : i need apache load testing tool for Apache
[06:15] <dr_willis> jmeter.apache.org/
[06:15] <dr_willis> firs hit i got on google for 'apache load test tool'
[06:15] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:16] <CommaCrazy> DarwinSurvivor, well I have to reboot to get the network back
[06:16] <CommaCrazy> tried restarting the networkmanager
[06:16] <gh0strider> hey i am hoping that someone here can help me out...i am trying to use vlc and i installed it from the repo's with all the plugins that it would need and for some reason it is playing the video fine, the video looks great but i am not hearing any sound, however if i play the same video with "kmplayer" or another video player the video + sound works fine, and sound works for apps like "amarok" and i can play videos with firefox + chrome with sound no prob
[06:16] <CommaCrazy> tried with dhclient. tried with ifconfig eth0 down and up
[06:17] <CommaCrazy> but with no success
[06:17] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  check that sound output 'device' vlc is using.  it may need to be set to pulse, or alsa, or 'default'
[06:17] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  if you are using kde.. it may need to  changed if its set to 'pulse'
[06:18] <gh0strider> dr_willis: i have tried resetting the sound device for all of the ones you mentioned...no luck
[06:18] <dr_willis> gh0strider:  after changeing it.. close and restart kde.
[06:18] <Shadowfios> terminal method for unpacking .7z files?
[06:18] <dr_willis> err..vlc i mean
[06:18] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> Shadowfios:  there 7z cli tools in the repos
[06:19] <dr_willis> the unp script is handy also.
[06:19] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:19] <Shadowfios> im a total noob at the terminal
[06:20] <Shadowfios> so it would be unp test.7z
[06:20] <dr_willis> !terminal
[06:20] <dr_willis> unp uses the  other binary tools.. so you need to insgtall the 7zip cli tools first
[06:20] <Shadowfios> ive installed them
[06:20] <DarwinSurvivor> CommaCrazy: ok, unfortunately I probably won't be able to help you much with that problem
[06:21] <dr_willis> !find 7zip
[06:21] <dr_willis> p7zip --help  or try unp --help
[06:21] <Nom->  Is it possible to pre-fill some of the answers for the OEM Config on a server, or doesn't OEM Config work on server?
[06:21] <DarwinSurvivor> netwrkspider: you are still being *extremely* vague. apache can be tested in a multitude of ways from simply pass-ping to malicious packets and sql injection techniques
[06:21] <Nom-> Like I don't want a user being created -- i want a root password set to a predefined value (which will later be changed by puppet once the server is on the network)
[06:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Nom-: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD
[06:23] <dr_willis> !oem
[06:23] <dr_willis> hmm..   guess its
[06:23] <dr_willis> !automate
[06:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Nom-: and ubuntu is designed to not require a root password, you are *strongly* encouraged to use a sudo-powered administrator account instead
[06:24] <Nom-> Yeah, that doesn't work in our environment... all our users are going to be powered by LDAP, but it can't do that until the OS is configured with hostname, ip address, etc and can phone home to the puppet master
[06:24] <DarwinSurvivor> Nom-: what doesn't work?
[06:24] <kaustubh> hi
[06:25] <Nom-> And yeah, I know how to do unattended cd's... already got one... the hard part is when you do the install into say a VMWare template and then need to set the hostname/ip on first boot (ie. NOT using vmware customization templates)
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Nom-: the non-root thing? you can have local system users and still use ldap!
[06:25] <kaustubh> installing ubuntu in vm does not work
[06:25] <Seveas> Nom-, configure your d-i setup to install puppet and be done :)
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> Nom-: and why are you not using vmware customization templates?
[06:25] <DarwinSurvivor> !details | kaustubh
[06:25] <Nom-> Baby steps
[06:26] <dr_willis> kaustubh:  what vm, what verison of ubuntu.. whatgd not working..
[06:26] <kaustubh> sorry
[06:26] <kaustubh> wait I will provide details
[06:26] <Nom-> I'm pushing to change lots of things at once (like using guest customization templates), but there's push back on that because it's a lot of change all at once
[06:27] <gh0strider> dam...nothing worked
[06:27] <Shadowfios> so i have unp installed but it still needs p7zip
[06:27] <gh0strider> i tried all of the audio settings for vlc
[06:27] <gh0strider> nothing...
[06:27] <gh0strider> i don't get this...it works with kmplayer and dragonplayer but vlc has always been my favorite
[06:27] <gh0strider> i don't get why i am not getting any audio
[06:27] <Shadowfios> so i typed in p7zip and it said/usr/bin/p7zip: compressed data not written to a terminal.
[06:27] <dr_willis> Shadowfios:  unp is just a script so yes.. it needs the actual archive biarny tools..
[06:27] <kaustubh> I am installing ubuntu 11.10 in Microsoft Hyper V and the network interface is not working. I have added module vs_netvsc to initramfs
[06:27] <Shadowfios> For help, type: /usr/bin/p7zip -h
[06:27] <dr_willis> !find pp7zip
[06:27] <dr_willis> !find p7zip
[06:28] <dr_willis> so install the p7zip packages shown above
[06:28] <Shadowfios> like 'sudo apt-get p7zip'?
[06:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kaustubh: please use paste.ubuntu.com to show any errors you are receiving as well as a brief description how the networking is set up (nat, bridge, host-guest direct, etc)
[06:29] <dr_willis> apt-get install packagename
[06:30] <Shadowfios> dr_willis: so it downloaded and installed but the terminal is saying the same thing
[06:31] <Shadowfios> aww he left
[06:34] <kaustubh> I am installing ubuntu on hyper v using this guide
[06:34] <kaustubh> http://www.isummation.com/blog/installing-ubuntu-server-1104-64bit-on-hyper-v/
[06:34] <kaustubh> but networking inside hyper v does not work
[06:35] <rabbi1> how to run .aspx scripts on ubuntu ? can i ?
[06:35] <windbuntu> i only did a 1 gig swap this time hope thats ok
[06:37] <DarwinSurvivor> kaustubh: please elaborate on "does not work" is there no network interface to chose, does it time out, do you not get an ip, does routing not work, etc
[06:37] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: like asp.net website stuff?
[06:38] <gh0strider> anyone here have any ideas why everything else plays audio but not vlc?
[06:38] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: yeap, one of asp.net webapp is in windows server, i use ubuntu. I am responsible to edit the HTML and CSS part, but i can't test the file after edition because the pages are asp.net and i am on linux. ....
[06:39] <proxinix> you may need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras gh0strider
[06:39] <gh0strider> dragonplayer, kmplayer, kaffeine, everything works except vlc!
[06:39] <gh0strider> sorry for the "!" its just frustrating...
[06:40] <proxinix> !codecs
[06:40] <gh0strider> i tried installing the multimedia repository for ubuntu but that didn't solve anything either...
[06:40] <cache_za> i actually only installed vlc, not third party codecs - and things play fine
[06:41] <proxinix> Forgive me but, is the volume off on the player?  That happens
[06:42] <rabbi1> what will asp.net2-examples in the synaptic manager do ? can't find any manuals or instructions :(
[06:42] <gh0strider> installing ubuntu-restricted-extras didn't solve the problem....
[06:42] <archie> gh0strider: You can start a terminal and run vlc and then try playing the file. It should log error messages in the terminal.
[06:42] <gh0strider> hmmm...
[06:43] <gh0strider> archie: tried that too...
[06:43] <gh0strider> it plays the video in the terminal "console" but no sound
[06:43] <cache_za> and it didnt log anything?
[06:43] <Luca> ciao
[06:43] <Luca> !lista
[06:43] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: last I checked asp.net could be run on apache if you are using windows, but I don't think it will run on linux
[06:44] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: http://logicsupport.com/blog/?p=153
[06:44] <rabbi1> fyi
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: if it uses the mono libraries, then you MAY be able to run it, but that would rely on the fact that your website only uses calls and utilities fully supported by mono
[06:44] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: thank you, will check out their site .... worth a try .... :D
[06:44] <DarwinSurvivor> richtroye: yeah, as I thought, it uses mono
[06:45] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: beware, a LOT of .net stuff does NOT work in mono at all, so if you use anything exotic or specalized you'll probably run into problems
[06:45] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: fingers crossed ;)
[06:45] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: If you can, you're probably best off using a virtualmachine or something to get your test system as close to the same as your production system as possible
[06:47] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: also, those instructions are for redhad, so you may have to do some translations/conversions when following those instructions
[06:52] <alusion> DarwinSurvivor, do you personally use CrashPlan as your primary backup software?
[06:53] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: never heard of it until today
[06:54] <Tony> Can anybody help me setup a Belkin FD57000 version 4100 on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[06:54] <Tony> If you can, please PM me, thank you.
[06:54] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: sure, but i had faced HDD problems initially with virtual machine, so that's a negative ...
[06:54] <Fat-Thing> my google chrome extensions are gone how can i bring `em up?
[06:54] <ptman> is it possible to specify for the netboot installer that it should use a specific mirror url?
[06:55] <ptman> using preseeding maybe?
[06:55] <ptman> care to point me at some documentation?
[06:55] <peepsalot> can i benchmark write speed with hdparm?  -t only tests read
[06:55] <Tony> Can anybody help me setup a Belkin FD57000 version 4100 on Ubuntu Server 12.04?  Please PM me if you can help.
[06:55] <peepsalot> or is there a better app for this?
[06:55] <peepsalot> the device is formatted blank, don't care about losing data
[06:56] <alusion> So what do you think of it, DarwinSurvivor ?  I've used it with great pleasure during my windows experience, but I am about to try installing it on my ubuntu machine
[06:56] <snapdata> Is there any way to get flash to use PulseAudio instead of ALSA?
[06:57] <alusion> One's backup solution can never be too secure or overdone imo, I have realized the sentimental value of old data as I reminisce old memories of graphics works I did as a child on paint...
[06:58] <alusion> I thought it'd be an amazing idea to hold an elegant art gallery for mspaint creations nowadays, but all of my old images have long been gone v_v
[06:58] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: hdd problems? there are no hdd's in virtual machines, only virtual drives..
[06:58] <rabbi1> DarwinSurvivor: yeah, my harddisk crashed coz of virtual machines
[06:59] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: I know absolutely nothing about it
[06:59] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: that doesn't make any sense. there was probably something else going on
[07:00] <DarwinSurvivor> rabbi1: what makes you think it was the virtual machine?
[07:00] <alusion> Do you have a backup solution yourself DarwinSurvivor ?
[07:03] <krababbel> Why is there no Java 7 version of the browser plugin available, officially.
[07:04] <jackiechan0> Hey i have problem in VPN settings could anyone help me?
[07:05] <krababbel> snapdata: why, at least youtube works fine.
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: rsync + "cp -al" wrapped up in a nice script. all get sent to my home server for full incremental backups (yes, full AND incremental at the same time)
[07:05] <alusion> sickkk
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> krababbel: because Oracle change the license.
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !java | krababbel for more info
[07:06] <jackiechan0> Hey i have problem in VPN settings could anyone help me?
[07:06] <krababbel> DarwinSurvivor: thanks
[07:06] <fidel> !ask | jackiechan0
[07:07] <alusion> Well I am going to test out crashplan for Ubuntu 12.04, pretty sure I haven't heard of any news regarding compatibility or issues so ill see myself yo
[07:08] <alusion> Last time I tried it, things started happening and the light at the end of the tunnel was flickering
[07:08] <jackiechan0> i set everything as it explained here but it does n't works  http://iphone-vpn.com/support/how-to-set-up-unblock-vpn-on-linux.html
[07:08] <jackiechan0> thanks for helping
[07:08] <SuSEno> What VPN problem jackiechan0 ?
[07:08] <fidel> alusion: crashplan isnt that bad - works pretty good
[07:08] <alusion> fidel, you are using it on 12.04 LTS?
[07:08] <jackiechan0> SuSEno> it's unblockVPN  and i set everything
[07:09] <fidel> alusion: no our cpp-proE servers are still running on 10.04
[07:09] <fidel> i was more focused on crashplan itself - not 12.04 in specific
[07:09] <itsnotworking> if I use compiz, how and where do I choose window decorations? in ccsm I only see an option to enable/disable them.
[07:10] <SuSEno> Point to Point Tunneling Protocol
[07:10] <SuSEno> hmmm...
[07:10] <jackiechan0> SuSEno> what's up?
[07:10] <alusion> Would this channel offer support for Blackbuntu aswell?
[07:10] <SuSEno> actually, I never use VPN. Sorry can't help :-(
[07:10] <jackiechan0> blackbuntu ?what is that?
[07:10] <krababbel> DarwinSurvivor: Isn't icedtea still good? At least debian has it.
[07:11] <SuSEno> but you can explain your network configuration, so others can help.
[07:11] <DJones> alusion: I doubt it, the channel is only for the officially supported versions of Ubuntu (ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu)
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: no, you'll need to use their support channels
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> krababbel: if it's not on that page, it probably won't work
[07:12] <SuSEno> anyway if you can try install Tor, jackiechan0
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: my backup script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/979365/ and acccompanying config file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/979367/ (only lines 1&2 are required)
[07:12] <jackiechan0> SuSEno> i want a VPN not TOR tnx anyway
[07:12] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: it can be customized to backup any computer to any other computer and uses ssh+rsync for all the transfers
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: of course, usual "I am not responsible for any damage" clauses do apply. make sure you read *and* understand the script before using it!
[07:14] <alusion> Interesting, you do ssh bash scripting?
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: for my backup yes. it's not that hard once you learn the syntax
[07:15] <DJones> alusion: Looking at their website, their support irc channel is on "irc.foonetic.net" channel #Blackbuntu
[07:15] <alusion> Yeah I've dabbled, I was just wondering if you were some shell ninja or knew some kool tricks =)
[07:15] <alusion> Ah nice! thank you!
[07:16] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: it's a variation (and HUGE expansion) of http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/rsync-and-cp-al-for-staggered-backups-332926/
[07:16] <DarwinSurvivor> alusion: you will need to create an empty folder that matches the date-stamp the script uses before running your fisrt backup, after that it will run just by executing it
[07:17] <alusion> Cheat Sheets are my ultimate delight.
[07:17] <alusion> Wtf @ filling out so much info for a cheat sheet?!
[07:23] <Onixs> anyone on vbox here
[07:24] <itsnotworking> !ask | Onixs
[07:24] <Onixs> !ask | itsnotworking
[07:24] <Onixs> :D
[07:25] <_Matze_> My Ubuntu on WMware-player broke down and wouldn't boot anymore. so I came here yesterday and I was told to make a new ubuntu-VM and mount the old ubuntu-VM into the new system.. how can I do so?
[07:27] <Braden`> Hello
[07:28] <Onixs> _Matze_ i just used my old vbox image to the new vbox
[07:28] <krababbel> DarwinSurvivor: I installed java7 from a ppa again, and it seems to work well. Libreoffice 3.5 added support as well. :)
[07:29] <_Matze_> Onixs: I don't understand..
[07:29] <Braden`> Ubuntu is telling me that my max resolution is 1024x768; however, I would like to set it at 1366x768.  How would I force it to use that resolution?
[07:29] <Braden`> Using the 2D desktop
[07:29] <CruX|> Braden`: try in console xrandr -s 1366x768
[07:29] <Tony> Just wanted ot let everybody know I finally got the wlan0 up, PITA...
[07:30] <Tony> exit
[07:30] <Tony> :exit
[07:30] <Braden`> Will that remain when I reboot?
[07:30] <itsnotworking> is using checkinstall recommended, when installing stuff from source on ubuntu?
[07:30] <CruX|> Braden`: no
[07:30] <Braden`> CruX|:  How do I make it permenate?
[07:30] <CruX|> Braden`: but try if this resolution is supported by your driver
[07:31] <Braden`> CruX|:  Size not found in available modes
[07:31] <Braden`> (it was the correct resolution before I ran do-release-upgrade)
[07:31] <CruX|> hmm
[07:31] <CruX|> and which graphics card you have ?
[07:32] <Braden`> I have an NVIDIA card, but am using VirtualBox
[07:32] <Braden`> the host is Windows 7
[07:32] <Braden`> I have the latest guest additions installed
[07:32] <CruX|> ah
[07:33] <CruX|> never used it, sorry
[07:33] <krababbel> Braden`: can't you just resize the guest window then?
[07:33] <gulzar> where are default icons saved? In .desktop files instead of path only name of the icon is written. Where are those icons?
[07:33] <HowDoI> On a brand new install of 12.04, the monitor connected to my Nvidia 8400GS graphics card using the Nouveau driver periodically goes black as though it were disconnected.  If I let the machine idle until it would turn off the monitor, I have to press and hold the monitor's power button to get it to turn back on.  This does not happen with 10.04, nor with the built-in Intel graphics.  Any ideas?
[07:33] <Braden`> krabbel:  Ubuntu is maxing at 1024x768
[07:34] <krababbel> Braden`: you said ubuntu runs in vbox? just enlarge the vbox guest window.
[07:36] <thomaspr> With Natty I had to downgrade the flash plugin. Is it possible, that firefox was deinstalled fpr that ?
[07:36] <Braden`> krababbel:  It is already set to full-screen
[07:37] <_Matze_> My Ubuntu on WMware-player broke down and wouldn't boot anymore. so I came here yesterday and I was told to make a new ubuntu-VM and mount the old ubuntu-VM into the new system.. how can I do so?
[07:37] <krababbel> Braden`: Working guest additions should let you resize the guest however you want.
[07:37] <krababbel> Braden`: works for me under windows 7 at least
[07:38] <sirriffsalot> Hey again. Still having my bootup-freeze problem since upgrading to 12.04... anyone? :-/
[07:38] <thomaspr> Matze: Wirklich mounten ???
[07:38] <dontknow> Is the default ati card driver installed with ubuntu called kms?
[07:38] <banseljaj> Hi people. I am unable to log in after upgrade to 12.04. Also, Right now dpkg isn't working cuz the directory is locked. Hoow do I remove the lock?
[07:39] <sirriffsalot> banseljaj: hah! Welcome aboard!
[07:39] <HowDoI> Wow, you too with crashes sirriffsalot?  I just found yet another bug with Unity... This xchat window is not appearing in the Unity panel...
[07:39] <stevedtrrrrm> trying to get ubuntu runnin- on a VM
[07:39] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: not crashing... can't even login lol:)
[07:40] <stevedtrrrrm> it sez processor isnt right for kernel#
[07:40] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: freezing on bootup
[07:40] <stevedtrrrrm> when i try to boot to the cd image
[07:40] <stevedtrrrrm> why?
[07:40] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: try "unity --reset" ?
[07:40] <Braden`> krababbel:  I will re-install guest additions
[07:40] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, look at the bright side:  At least you don't get the opportunity to get in the middle of a task and THEN have your computer freeze.
[07:41] <stevedtrrrrm> says it needs.....
[07:41] <thomaspr> stevedtrrrrm: 32/64-bit architecture checked ?
[07:41] <banseljaj> sirriffsalot: Thank you.
[07:41] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: I guess... but I've been at this for three days-.-
[07:41] <stevedtrrrrm> pretty sure i dled 32 bit
[07:41] <stevedtrrrrm> checking now
[07:41] <_Matze_> thomaspr:       zumindest irgendwie sowas.. ist mir auch egal wie.. hauptsache, ich kann auf mein VM-OS wieder zugreifen
[07:41] <stevedtrrrrm> says it needs "pae"
[07:41] <sirriffsalot> banseljaj: haha:) Go to rescue mode and get into failsafe mode, then try dpkg
[07:41] <banseljaj> Anyways, How do I release the lock so I can install stuff.
[07:41] <zamba> how can i make the calendar in gnome show monday as the first day of week?
[07:41] <wildwilly> hello everyone
[07:41] <HowDoI> Whoa, could a buggy Unity be exposing bugs in the graphics drivers and causing my Intel graphics feezes?
[07:42] <zamba> and don't tell me to change the LC_TIME locale, because that brings with it lots of sideeffects
[07:42] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: definitely
[07:42] <stevedtrrrrm> i 386 is 32 bit?
[07:42] <krababbel> Braden`: You should have a menu in virtualbox guest window: View/auto resize guest display. If it is not greyed out, guest additions are OK.
[07:42] <thomaspr> Die meinten wahrscheinlich, dass Du eine leere VM erzeugst und den Pfad auf die bereits bestehende umbiegst ?
[07:42] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, Ubuntu 12.04 fried my power supply unit 1 day after installing it.  Then it won't even run right on all new hardware.
[07:42] <stevedtrrrrm> the file name is ubuntu 12 desktop i386
[07:43] <thomaspr> stevedtrrrrm: i386 only means intel processor
[07:43] <stevedtrrrrm> k tom
[07:43] <AchlysEpithet> thomaspr, it means a 32 bit processor.
[07:43] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: haha... well, people call us crazy for updating to 12.04 within two months of release, but it wouldn't develop without us, so give ourselves a pat on the bacK;D
[07:43] <AchlysEpithet> And not necessarily an Intel.
[07:43] <AchlysEpithet> I.. guess. =P.
[07:43] <CruX|> Braden`: if 1024x768 is max try to increase video memory
[07:44] <CruX|> in virtualbox
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> thomaspr: no, i386 is for ALL 32 bit processors (except possibly arm)
[07:44] <stevedtrrrrm> yes i am in virtualbox
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> thomaspr: amd64 is also for all 64 bit processors
[07:44] <appamajig_> i386 is any x86 (from amd, intel, a few others, but relatively unknown) that does NOT support 64-bit (but i386 apps CAN run on 64-bit hardware)
[07:44] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, they shouldn't release an LTS version saying it works unless it really does.  Taking the expert's word for it shouldn't be "crazy"
[07:45] <DarwinSurvivor> thomaspr: basically intel made a 32 bit architecture that everyone else copied and amd did the same with 64 bit
[07:45] <Alinn> Hi
[07:45] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: they do tell us they can't be 100% sure:)
[07:45] <wildwilly> can someone explain what would cause an installation to hang at "stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon"?
[07:45] <stevedtrrrrm> i am in virtual box with 32 bit processor and i386 iso file
[07:45] <AchlysEpithet> Well actually the i386 was a family of 32 bit processors including the Intel 80686.
[07:45] <AchlysEpithet> The i586 was the pentium series, and the 686 were most of the 64bit processors.
[07:46] <stevedtrrrrm> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU :- pae"
[07:46] <AchlysEpithet> Well officially, the are intel-specefic, but they use this de-factor term to classify the processors. so an i386 ubuntu would run fine on any 32 bit intel or amd processor.
[07:46] <appamajig_> AchlysEpithet, in the context of linux, it means 32-bit compiled. no need to confuse poeple.
[07:46] <stevedtrrrrm> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU :- pae" << is the error msg when booting to the image thru virtualbox
[07:46] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, mmm. Well your CPU doesn't have physical address extension.
[07:46] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: this is in virtualbox?
[07:46] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, yeah, I'm still wondering if I should try to RMA my brand new motherboard before it's too late to try another one.  Maybe mixing up new hardware would make the bug go away
[07:46] <stevedtrrrrm> yes darwin
[07:46] <AchlysEpithet> They let you address more than 4 GB of ram in non 64 bit systems.
[07:47] <Alinn> In ubuntu scripts runs after double clicking how can i do this in kubuntu?
[07:47] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: Don't know what to tell you, haha:)
[07:47] <banseljaj> Okay, Now it won't let me log in graphically, But I can log in from command line easily. Worst of all, it can log in the Guest Account
[07:47] <banseljaj> :@
[07:47] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: gonna visit my dad with this computer and see if we can sort it out together since no one here has the length of time + skill to sort it out
[07:47] <AchlysEpithet> appamajig_, =\. Well pardon me if I am wrong, but thomaspr thought it's only for intel.
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: close the guest, select it and hit "settings -> system -> processor" and make sure "Enable PAE" is checked
[07:47] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys epithet - the processor is a standard but 6 or 87 year old ibm thinkpads' intel centrino. 1.5ghz
[07:47] <stevedtrrrrm> *6 or 7*
[07:48] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, well then it's probably 32 bit, has no PAE. And will therefore only run Ubuntu i386.
[07:48] <AchlysEpithet> And umm... will only address upto 4 GB of ram.
[07:48] <AchlysEpithet> (Actually 3.7 GB or something like that.)
[07:48] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, lul, I would try my new hardware under Windows, but my windows HDD is an IDE drive, and the new motherboard doesn't have a connector.  Irony...
[07:48] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys - but ive downloaded the i386 iso
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> It doesn't run?
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> O_o.
[07:49] <stevedtrrrrm> and am trying to boot to it in the VM
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: check the virtualbox setting. if "Enable PAE" is grayed out, your processor does not support it
[07:49] <stevedtrrrrm> correct.
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, VMWare?
[07:49] <sirriffsalot> HowDoI: at least we're having fun;D
[07:49] <stevedtrrrrm> virtualbox
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, use 1 GB of ram.
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> Enable PAE.
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> and disable VT/x if there is an option.
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: did you check the virtual box setting for PAE?
[07:49] <AchlysEpithet> Since I don't know what version of VirtualBox you run.
[07:50] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys- ill have to buy some more ram- the machine only has 248MB
[07:50] <AchlysEpithet> Oh damn. -.-
[07:50] <appamajig_> AchlysEpithet, if you want to be technical, it's not an intel term, it's a standard for 32-bit software instruction (a set of instruction used by compiled 32-bit applications) it was pioneered by intel, and first included on 80386 processors. It is not intel-specific, but it is a standard. easiest explained as 32-bit programs are i386. processor doesn't matter (unless you'r on a phone or an up coming arm-processor system).
[07:50] <AchlysEpithet> Then just use 128 mb of ram.
[07:50] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys - ill set it to that npw
[07:50] <stevedtrrrrm> sec
[07:51] <AchlysEpithet> appamajig_, are you implying IA-32 is same as i386?
[07:51] <HowDoI> sirriffsalot, yeah, right now I just have to deal with the screen blanking out all the time, but at least it hasn't crashed yet.  With a 5 year old graphics card.
[07:51] <AchlysEpithet> It runs a 32 bit architecture too.
[07:51] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, hope it works. =).
[07:51] <stevedtrrrrm> trying now
[07:51] <stevedtrrrrm> same error
[07:51] <stevedtrrrrm> :(
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: do you have PAE enabled in virtualbox?
[07:52] <AchlysEpithet> What does it say?
[07:52] <stevedtrrrrm> where will the vtx option be ?
[07:52] <stevedtrrrrm> "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU :- pae" << is the error msg when booting to the image thru virtualbox
[07:52] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, under processors, I think. I actually use VMWare.
[07:53] <appamajig_> AchlysEpithet, BUT, with all that said, there really was no need to correct you at all. So you can disregard it. had a pedantic moment... IA-32 is the OFFICIAL intel verbage for 32-bit instruction sets. IA-32 is specifically intel, i386 is generic.
[07:53] <appamajig_> AchlysEpithet, but no, I wasn't originally saying that.
[07:53] <AchlysEpithet> -.-
[07:53] <Alinn> In ubuntu scripts runs after double clicking how can i do this in kubuntu?
[07:54] <stevedtrrrrm> i see no vtx option
[07:54] <AchlysEpithet> I'll rephrase what you just said. Intel i386 isn't the generic term for all 32 bit processors. It's the official term for the Intel 80686 processors made during in 1985.
[07:54] <stevedtrrrrm> error message is:- "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU :- pae"
[07:54] <AchlysEpithet> While IA-32 is the generic name for all 32 bit processors.
[07:54] <AchlysEpithet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-32
[07:54] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, Are you sure your CPU has PAE?
[07:54] <appamajig_> you got that from IA-32 is the OFFICIAL intel verbage? seriously?
[07:55] <AchlysEpithet> It is.
[07:55] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, have you installed the VB kernel modules?
[07:55] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys- does that mean i can use the processor to pour cheese onto nachos?
[07:55] <stevedtrrrrm> howdoi - no. what are they?
[07:55] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, should you be compelled, yes.
[07:56] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys- i dont know what pae is
[07:56] <dr_willis> !pae
[07:56] <stevedtrrrrm> i know what the acronym stands for. but beyond that...
[07:56] <stevedtrrrrm> thanx willis
[07:56] <stevedtrrrrm> looking
[07:56] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UIzWUQ3cqw4/TzVdb2UeydI/AAAAAAAAHs8/964AKfmtD74/s1600/virtualbox-pae-fix.png
[07:57] <dr_willis> pae is default on 32 bit 12.04 ubuntu
[07:57] <dr_willis> lubuntu has non pae option by default
[07:57] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, did you recently update the linux kernel on your machine?  Virtualbox always needed to reload the kernel module after I did that
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> HowDoI: I believe his host system is windows
[07:58] <stevedtrrrrm> no how do i i wouldnt know how to do that
[07:58] <pedahzur> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 under KVM/qemu (via virt-install)on a CentOS 6.2 host. Install starts, but then tells me: "ERROR Couldn't find hvm kernel for Ubuntu tree." Same error with the 10.04 ISO. Both are server CDs. Any ideas?
[07:58] <_Matze_> My Ubuntu on WMware-player broke down and wouldn't boot anymore. so I came here yesterday and I was told to make a new ubuntu-VM and get access to the old ubuntu-VM from the new system.. how can I do so?
[07:58] <stevedtrrrrm> darwin im on windows yes
[07:58] <HowDoI> Oh wait, stevedtrrrrm, you're asking about Windows?
[07:58] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm,
[07:58] <AchlysEpithet> Ummm, sorry to bother you, but can you tell me the exact processor you use?
[07:58] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: can you please look at the screenshot I posted and tell me if you have the same PAE/NX option in your virtualbox?
[07:58] <stevedtrrrrm> howdoi - running ubuntu on virtualbox in windows. yes
[07:58] <DarwinSurvivor> HowDoI: windows host, ubuntu guest
[07:59] <stevedtrrrrm> looking darwin
[07:59] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, so your windows host is complaining about not having pae, or your Ubuntu guest OS?
[07:59] <stevedtrrrrm> ubuntu guest os when i try to boot to the CD to install it
[07:59] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, do you have PAE enabled in BIOS?
[08:00] <stevedtrrrrm> darwin - the option is there, and greyed out, with the check mark present.
[08:00] <AchlysEpithet> Greyed out? Aha.
[08:00] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys - i wouldnt know.
[08:00] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, Most likely, your BIOS doesn't have PAE enabled.
[08:00] <AchlysEpithet> =).
[08:00] <AchlysEpithet> If the host doesn't have PAE enabled, the guest can't have an option for PAE.
[08:01] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, weird.  Most computers have had pae support for decades, apparently
[08:01] <AchlysEpithet> HowDoI, most are, by default, disabled.
[08:01] <AchlysEpithet> xD
[08:01] <AchlysEpithet> My old Silicon Graphics crusader was.
[08:01] <snapdata> I get this error whenever trying to use FFMPEG to stream to an FME server: "[rtmp @ 0x15927a0] Server error: Reserved property (releaseStream)." Tried googling No dice. Any ideas?
[08:01] <stevedtrrrrm> this is a 2005 Thinkpad R50e
[08:01] <stevedtrrrrm> so i must go and enable it?
[08:01] <stevedtrrrrm> in bios?
[08:02] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, have you tried booting the Ubuntu CD directly, without virtualbox?
[08:02] <stevedtrrrrm> howdoi - i dont have a CD
[08:03] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: it could also be that his windows OS simply doesn't have the PAE driver installed.
[08:03] <stevedtrrrrm> darwinsurvivor, how do i check?
[08:03] <EvokenAcheron> Dammit, my bnc went down. -.-
[08:03] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, so you're just mounting the .iso in Windows?  You could try a USB stick
[08:03] <stevedtrrrrm> and how do i activate it in  bios?
[08:04] <EvokenAcheron> stevedtrrrrm, is it AMI or Phoenix?
[08:04] <stevedtrrrrm> hrmm. not sure i have a USB stick- ill check
[08:04] <efaistos> hello
[08:04] <EvokenAcheron> Hello efaistos.
[08:04] <stevedtrrrrm> evoken - is what AMI or phoenix?
[08:04] <efaistos> Was wondering was the equivalent of sun-java6-jre on ubuntu ...
[08:04] <stevedtrrrrm> evoken ive no idea what ami and phoenix refer to
[08:04] <EvokenAcheron> stevedtrrrrm, is your BIOS made by American Megatrends International or Phoenix?
[08:04] <efaistos> or this one sun-java6-plugin
[08:05] <dr_willis> !java
[08:05] <EvokenAcheron> efaistos, the sun-java6-plugin, I believe, integrates java with the browsers.
[08:05] <stevedtrrrrm> evoken - i dont know- i dont get the yellow megatrends logo. I imagine phonix - will it tell me at boot?
[08:05] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: booting off the live-cd/usb will tell you if your *processor* supports it. if not, you'll have to use lubuntu or something. If it DOES support it, you will need to try the #windows channel and ask them how to install it in windows
[08:05] <EvokenAcheron> stevedtrrrrm, umm.. well yes, usually. Should I get you pictures of those two?
[08:05] <efaistos> EvokenAcheron: yeah have a colleague here with an ubuntu ... and cant find any java pkg
[08:06]  * efaistos under debian has no issue :) 
[08:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !java | efaistos
[08:06] <EvokenAcheron> efaistos, I suggest you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras from Ubuntu's repository.
[08:06] <dr_willis> the iced-tea gpl java is in the repos
[08:06] <EvokenAcheron> It includes the Sun Java JRE6 with the IcedTea plugin.
[08:06] <EvokenAcheron> stevedtrrrrm, see this. ]
[08:06] <EvokenAcheron> http://www.aoaforums.com/forum/attachments/hardware-hacking/22067d1202585051-award-vs-ami-bios-awardbios1-big.jpg
[08:06] <EvokenAcheron> Does your's look like that one?
[08:06] <efaistos> EvokenAcheron: ok i'll forward the pkg :)
[08:06] <Peetz0r> Hi, I just upgraded from ubutnu server 10.04 > 12.04, and now apache isn't doing https anymore
[08:06] <dr_willis> i just checked those  those one box's at the start of the installer and i think it pulled them in by default. ;)
[08:07] <EvokenAcheron> efaistos, Erm, just hold on.
[08:07] <EvokenAcheron> http://www.clickonf5.org/7777/how-install-sun-java-ubuntu-1004-lts/ <--- That should help, efaistos.
[08:07] <efaistos> EvokenAcheron: thanks dude :)
[08:07] <AchlysEpithet> No worries. ^^
[08:07] <janamithran> i am using ubuntu 12.04 . in my keyboar  numpad is not working  only enter key is working  how to solve this problem?
[08:07] <stevedtrrrrm> evoken - from memory yes booting to it now
[08:07] <AchlysEpithet> janamithran, are you sure your keyboard's not faulty? =P.
[08:08] <HowDoI> janamithran, press the Num Lock key?
[08:08] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, all right. Ah, just go through all of the submenus, it should have "PAE" written some place. I am pretty sure.
[08:08] <efaistos> thanks i forwarded the two links he should be able to setup his java now :)
[08:08] <AchlysEpithet> janamithran, it could be possible that you're not using the right keyboard layout.
[08:08] <stevedtrrrrm> ill tekk a look when i git there,
[08:08] <AchlysEpithet> efaistos, let's hope so!
[08:08] <AchlysEpithet> =D.
[08:08]  * efaistos is too kind ... should tell 'em to go find an answer :) 
[08:08] <janamithran>  AchlysEpithet  HowDoI  ya it works propely in  microsoft windos  and i press numkey too
[08:08] <AchlysEpithet> janamithran, likely that you don'
[08:08] <efaistos> i mean 3 minutes two links :)
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> * don't have the right keyboard layout set up for windows.
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> Damn, I need a new keyboard.
[08:09]  * efaistos loves IRC 
[08:09] <dontknow> is kms default driver for ati in ubuntu?
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> This one aint't fast enough.
[08:09] <janamithran> AchlysEpithet:  i am using english us layaout
[08:09] <HowDoI> janamithran, if you hold down the 4, 5, 6, or 8 key, do you see your mouse cursor moving?
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> janamithran, should work. =|.
[08:09] <HowDoI> I mean 2, 4, 6, or 8
[08:09] <janamithran> HowDoI:  yes
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> dontknow, I believe not, each card has their own driver.
[08:09] <AchlysEpithet> You can use jockey to find out what driver your computer needs.
[08:10] <AchlysEpithet> If you can't find the right driver for your card, go to the ATI website, hopefully, they'll have a source code for your card that you can compile and install.
[08:10] <AchlysEpithet> But jockey-gtk usually detects most of the hardwares that require installing a propreitary driver and does it automatically for you.
[08:10] <HowDoI> janamithran, it's a super-annoying "disability feature".  Try pressing Shift + Num Lock
[08:10] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys - the bios screen is entitled IBM BIOS SETUP UTILITY
[08:10] <thatoneguy> I have a samsung series 9 on 12.04 and it's running extremely hot... any suggestions?
[08:11] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, Aha.
[08:11] <Qualia> hhow do i check for xchat updates
[08:11] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, is there an "Advanced Option" or anything?
[08:11] <stevedtrrrrm> looking achlys
[08:11] <AchlysEpithet> Qualia, the apt-get update usually does it.
[08:11] <Anomie21> I'm trying to made a slideshow for someone in iPhoto and it's a POS, is there something for Ubuntu that does the same job?
[08:11] <janamithran> HowDoI:  i tryed but not wortking
[08:11] <HowDoI> janamithran, also, I noticed that in some versions of Ubuntu, after connecting/controlling the host through VNC, this "feature" would be automatically enabled
[08:12] <AchlysEpithet> Anomie21, LibreOffice?
[08:12] <AchlysEpithet> Maybe that should work.
[08:12] <Anomie21> AchlysEpithet: You can make slideshows in Libre?
[08:12] <stevedtrrrrm> achlys - "extended memory initialisation"
[08:12] <stevedtrrrrm> is that it?
[08:12] <AchlysEpithet> Anomie21, they have Libre Presentation, I am certain.
[08:12] <HowDoI> janamithran, Are you using Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:13] <stevedtrrrrm> the only thing that looks remotelylike "pae"
[08:13] <Anomie21> AchlysEpithet: Isn't that more like powerpoint?
[08:13] <janamithran> but i don't know vnc
[08:13] <Peetz0r> I just upgraded from ubutnu server 10.04 > 12.04, and now apache isn't doing https anymore
[08:13] <janamithran> HowDoI: ya
[08:13] <AchlysEpithet> Anomie21, are you talking about creating photo slideshows?
[08:13] <AchlysEpithet> =|
[08:13] <Anomie21> AchlysEpithet: I mean like a photo slideshow, that I can burn to a DVD and play on a dvd player
[08:13] <AchlysEpithet> Oh!
[08:13] <AchlysEpithet> an
[08:13] <AchlysEpithet> * Anomie21 use Pitvi.
[08:13] <janamithran> HowDoI: upgraded form 11.10
[08:13] <xenon_> Hi!I need some help.i upgraded to 12.04 and my taskbar and left programs bar dissapeared!Please help.Thank you
[08:13] <Anomie21> AchlysEpithet: Ta :)
[08:13] <HowDoI> janamithran, looks like they changed the keyboard toggle setting in 12.04.  Go to your system settings, then "Universal Access", then click the "Pointing and Clicking" tab, and turn off "Mouse Keys"
[08:14] <AchlysEpithet> It's a video editor, and lets you create photo slideshows and burn them directly onto an optical media.
[08:14] <AchlysEpithet> Or awhatever you prefer. xD.
[08:14] <stevedtrrrrm> achlyepithet the only thing that looks remotelylike "pae"
[08:14] <xenon_> Hi!I need some help.i upgraded to 12.04 and my taskbar and left programs bar dissapeared!Please help.Thank you
[08:14] <stevedtrrrrm> achlysepithet the only thing that looks remotelylike "pae"
[08:14] <stevedtrrrrm> is the "extended momery intiialisation test"
[08:14] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, type killall gnome-panel
[08:14] <janamithran> HowDoI: 1234567890
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> in terminal, that is.
[08:15] <janamithran> HowDoI: it is working :) thank you  so much
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, nah, not that.
[08:15] <rebourn> hi
[08:15] <HowDoI> janamithran, no problem bruh
[08:15] <stevedtrrrrm> :(
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, well is it disabled?
[08:15] <rebourn> enyone know if there is a support channel for virtualbox?
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, press Alt + F2
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> This will bring up the Terminal.
[08:15] <AchlysEpithet> Type out killall gnome-panel in terminal.
[08:16] <stevedtrrrrm> its currently disabled yes
[08:16] <xenon_> in terminal?I can't open terminal,i'm stuck in searching and this browser
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> That should work. It kills the process gnome-panel. The gnome-panel should automatically resurrect.
[08:16] <DarwinSurvivor> rebourn: #vbox
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, press Alt+F2
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> It opens up terminal.
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, enable it.
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> And see.
[08:16] <janamithran> thank you all
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> rebourn, yes.
[08:16] <rebourn> DarwinSurvivor thx
[08:16] <stevedtrrrrm> achlysepithet ok
[08:16] <xenon_> doesn't open
[08:16] <AchlysEpithet> Erm, janamithran answered it. :P. Sorry.
[08:17] <janamithran> AchlysEpithet:  HowDoI thank you bye
[08:17] <pungi-man> xenon_, What do u mean by u cannot open another terminal from current terminal??
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> janamithran, take care!
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> pungi-man, aren't you mi3?
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> =\
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, Did you press Alt + F2 by the way?
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> =\
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> You know it works most of the time.
[08:17] <janamithran> AchlysEpithet:  thank you   you too
[08:17] <AchlysEpithet> =).
[08:17] <xenon_> i pressed alt+f2 and it doesn't open terminal,the problem here is like on windows when explorer.exe stops working
[08:18] <pungi-man> no we both are brothers (cousins) AchlysEpithet
[08:18] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, mmm... Did you try restarting your computer?
[08:18] <AchlysEpithet> pungi-man, I'll note that down some place. Blimey enough the fact, you use the same IP address, pungi-man.
[08:18] <xenon_> i will try now,brb
[08:18] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, good luck!
[08:18] <AchlysEpithet> Erm, it quit. xD.
[08:18] <thatoneguy> my laptop is running super hot in 12.04... any suggestions? It runs really cool in windows :-\
[08:18] <pungi-man> u are Indian AchlysEpithet ??
[08:19] <AchlysEpithet> pungi-man, Half Indian.
[08:19] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: does it also run hot if you are not logged in?
[08:19] <AchlysEpithet> thatoneguy, how hot? 50 degrees?
[08:19] <thatoneguy> how can i check the temp?
[08:20] <jacobrask> In keyboard shortcut settings, how do I set a shortcut to "disabled"?
[08:20] <pungi-man> are u in india??? AchlysEpithet ??
[08:20] <AchlysEpithet> Affirmative on that, pungi-man.
[08:20] <DarwinSurvivor> jacobrask: select it and hit either delete or backspace (one of those will do it)
[08:20] <pungi-man> using mtnl?? AchlysEpithet ??
[08:20] <AchlysEpithet> pungi-man, MTNL, New Delhi for this IP.
[08:20] <AchlysEpithet> Assuming you're considering the IP from my Whois.
[08:21] <AchlysEpithet> thatoneguy, http://www.lucidtips.com/2009/06/06/monitor-cpu-and-hard-drive-temperatures-on-ubuntu-linux/
[08:21] <pungi-man> ofcourse!
[08:21] <AchlysEpithet> Ask your brother for more. xD
[08:21] <AchlysEpithet> He'd be rather happy to tell, I trow.
[08:21] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, enabling pae might cause a problem with your Windows installation though... be warned
[08:22] <AchlysEpithet> Well he is right about that, stevedtrrrrm. Gives you nasty bluescreens.
[08:22] <jacobrask> DarwinSurvivor: it was backspace, thanks
[08:22] <pungi-man> my brother knows about OS and network and I know more about programming
[08:22] <AchlysEpithet> pungi-man, last time I checked he runs Ubuntu and conky. -.-
[08:22] <xenon_> Hi!Still the same :(
[08:22] <stevedtrrrrm> im still not sure ive enabled it
[08:22] <AchlysEpithet> And he didn't register his nick. xD
[08:22] <stevedtrrrrm> there wasnt an option for pae
[08:23] <stevedtrrrrm> just "extended meory initialiaztion"
[08:23] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, well did your turn on VirtualBox and start up the ubuntu guest?
[08:23] <stevedtrrrrm> could be the same thing
[08:23] <stevedtrrrrm> i spose
[08:23] <AchlysEpithet> Well it's highly unlikely that EMI could be same as PAE.
[08:23] <stevedtrrrrm> long boot  - old machine
[08:23] <xenon_>  I restarted,it doesn't work
[08:23] <AchlysEpithet> Since back in the days, I've seen all BIOSes use the term PAE.
[08:23] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, =P.
[08:23] <pungi-man> we both are computer nerds! proud to be one. But the only difference is that I am fit while he is not
[08:23] <AchlysEpithet> Been there, done that.
[08:23] <thatoneguy> AchlysEpithet: Unable to locate package sensors-applet and computertemp
[08:24] <JohnnyricoMC> I prefer the term intellectually badass :p
[08:24] <xenon_> i may say that i use compiz,can this program affect somehow?
[08:24] <AchlysEpithet> thatoneguy, did you first install the repository?
[08:24] <pungi-man> thatoneguy, its hddtemp and not computertemp
[08:24] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, likely.
[08:24] <stevedtrrrrm> i would be intellectually badass if all the women attempting to rape me didnt put me off my thinking. :..(
[08:24] <pungi-man> try this : sudo apt-get install hddtemp
[08:25] <AchlysEpithet> stevedtrrrrm, awww. xD
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: I have a feeling extended memory initialization is just a more thorough ram scan at boot time
[08:25] <stevedtrrrrm> ;O
[08:25] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741913 could help.
[08:25] <JohnnyricoMC> It's not rape if both parties enjoy it stevedtrrrrm xD
[08:25] <stevedtrrrrm> darwin - same - but im trying it
[08:25] <AchlysEpithet> JohnnyricoMC, it's consentful rape maybe.
[08:25] <stevedtrrrrm> johnny- after the first 30 women, i get sore, johnny :..(
[08:25] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: if that doesn't work, try lubuntu instead, I believe it has PAE disabled by default so it should work OK
[08:26] <JohnnyricoMC> x-|
[08:26] <stevedtrrrrm> k darwin
[08:27] <xenon_> i must reinstall it,how can i do it from this situation?
[08:27] <_Matze_> How can I use the data of a broken down Ubuntu-VM from another Ubuntu-VM ?
[08:28] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, sudo dpkg -r in terminal?
[08:28] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, why do you even need pae on a guest OS?  Is your guest OS the 32-bit version of Ubuntu?  Are you certain it's not Ubuntu Server?
[08:28] <xenon_> yeah,cannot do,i can't access terminal
[08:28] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: try booting the vm with a setup iso for ubuntu and using that
[08:28] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: just like when you first installed it, just chose "try ubuntu" instead of "install ubuntu"
[08:28] <AchlysEpithet> xenon_, restart your computer, drop into recovery mode.
[08:29] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  have the new vm instance  attatch the broken instances hd image to the new vm session as a 2nd hd is one way
[08:29] <stevedtrrrrm> howdoi - no im not
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> HowDoI: the 32bit ubuntu desktop disk uses pae by default now
[08:29] <stevedtrrrrm> ill check
[08:29] <dr_willis> _Matze_:   booting a live cd iso may be easier . ;0
[08:30] <xenon_> how can i "drop into recovery mode"? sory for so many stupid questions,i'm a beginer user
[08:30] <stevedtrrrrm> its the i386 version howdoi i wastold that implies 32 bit earlier
[08:30] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       how can I boot a live cd iso?
[08:31] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  tell the vm to boot it. using its settings
[08:31] <xenon_> oh,i have foud terminal
[08:31] <cocolos> hi
[08:31] <_Matze_> DarwinSurvivor: there is no "Try Ubuntu"
[08:31] <cocolos> Can I set the watchdog timer?
[08:31] <stevedtrrrrm> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit << desktop version, right ?
[08:32] <dr_willis> cocolos:  what whatdog timer?
[08:32] <HowDoI> stevedtrrrrm, you can maybe try the minimal iso version as per: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[08:32] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: select the vm in virtualbox and got to settings -> storage and add the iso as a virtual CD-rom
[08:32] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       VMware-player or the VM-OS itself?
[08:32] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: then boot it
[08:32] <stevedtrrrrm> ok how doi
[08:32] <cocolos> dr_willis: Well when I run my cuda app it always get killed because the kernel is taking too long
[08:32] <cocolos> dr_willis: I assume this is to prevent program from going to infinite loop
[08:32] <xenon_> i wrote "sudo dpkg -r" and it gave an error " dpkg : -- remove needs at least one package name argument"
[08:32] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  im not clear on what yiou mean. if you want to access a messed up vm disk image.. boot an iso in the VM
[08:33] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: actually, first things first: what VM are you using? virtualbox, wmware, etc
[08:33] <thatoneguy> i'm watching the temps now
[08:33] <thatoneguy> i just restarted so it'll tak ea couple mins
[08:33] <_Matze_> DarwinSurvivor: VMware
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> _Matze_: oh sorry, i'm only familiar with virtualbox. but you should be able to boot off the iso and do your recovery from there.
[08:34] <thatoneguy> AchlysEpithet: temp1: 48 C and temp2: 29.8 C (crit +100C)
[08:34] <AchlysEpithet> HOLY THING !
[08:34] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       I want to access a messed up guest OS but I don't know if it's aviable as an Iso..
[08:34] <AchlysEpithet> thatoneguy, are you sure you didn't spray some oil on it and put it on a bbq?
[08:34] <AchlysEpithet> =|.
[08:34] <xenon_> i managed to reset unity from terminal,works now!!
[08:35] <_Matze_> DarwinSurvivor: OK, thanks! I'll try!
[08:35] <AchlysEpithet> thatoneguy,
[08:35] <AchlysEpithet> I think your init.d script turns down the fan RPM.
[08:35] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  any linux iso should work.
[08:35] <AchlysEpithet> That makes it heat up.
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> AchlysEpithet: actually, I've seen many systems get along with a cpu of 60
[08:36] <AchlysEpithet> I suggest you too look at this <--- http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[08:36] <stevedtrrrrm> nope that change to the bios didnt work :(
[08:36] <stevedtrrrrm> still says missing pae
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: then you'll either have to talk to the #windows guys to find out if it's a hardware or windows problem. or you will need to use lubuntu which has no pae by default
[08:36] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       but how can I tell it, what VM-OS to access?
[08:36] <AchlysEpithet> DarwinSurvivor, Most Intels of the Core generation don't go beyond 45 inside the room.
[08:37] <cocolos> dr_willis: is that correct?
[08:37] <stevedtrrrrm> ok darwin thanks
[08:37] <AchlysEpithet> CPUs with a bigger manufacturing process tend to heat up faster. AMDs heat up really bad.
[08:37] <DarwinSurvivor> stevedtrrrrm: with 256MB of ram, you're going to have a hard time running a vm anyways, especially the full-blown unity desktop
[08:37] <thatoneguy> It's a samsung series 9... being thin probably wouldn't help that, I just thought it was really strange considering it barely gets warm in windows no matter what i do
[08:38] <dr_willis> cocolos:  no idea. never messed with cuda or that part of ubuntu
[08:38] <rebourn> anyone familiar with pbxware
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: do the fans sound noisier or quieter in ubuntu than windows (also check with your hand how much pressure/volume is coming out)
[08:38] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       I have another Ubuntu on VMware-player. can I maybe access the other ubuntu from there?
[08:39] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  if i had a broken vm in vbox. i would start that vm session in vbox.  but befor i powered it on 'virtually' i would have it insert the iso in to the virtual cd drive.. so its in fact booting the cd.... same as you would for a real pc.
[08:39] <thatoneguy> DarwinSurvivor: I'll take notice tomorrow... the fan on this thing is really quiet so I rarely notice it.
[08:40] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       Ah, so I need a virtual cd drive
[08:40] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  thats a noirmal feature of all these vm's
[08:41] <dr_willis> thsts how you normally instgsll the os in the first placce on them, ;)
[08:41] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       okay.. how do I get to this GRUB or however the bootmenu is called?
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: have you noticed if unity is really slow? it could be that your graphics card has the wrong driver and the cpu is trying to do the grahic's card's job
[08:42] <wendico> may i play my arcade mame roms on ubuntu?
[08:42] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  err. you are booting the iso. that gets to the  'live desktop' you then access your hd as you would if it was on a real machine.   Im not sure what bootmenu you are refering to
[08:43] <A_J> umm my flash is broken : http://i2.lulzimg.com/c9030c595e.png
[08:44] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       I thought of the one,, where I can select the boot device
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_willis: I had told him earlier to boot from the iso and chose "try ubuntu" from the menu, that may be what he's thinking of
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> nvm
[08:44] <A_J> heya dr_willis
[08:44] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  i dont use vmware. only vbox.. so no idea if its set to boot the iso by default or not..
[08:45] <dr_willis> Moo to U A_J
[08:45] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:45] <banseljaj> Hmm I can't uninstall bind9 from my system. I can't even stop bind9, which is causing my upgrades to fail
[08:45] <A_J> i really hate flash and linux :(
[08:46] <dr_willis> I just set youtube to use HTmL5 and phhht. to flash
[08:46] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       I can click my UBUNTU and select: "Start virtual machine"
[08:46] <A_J> see this dr_willis http://i2.lulzimg.com/c9030c595e.png
[08:47] <dr_willis> flash colors are messed up for me in some videos.. html5 looks fine.
[08:47] <A_J> _Matze_:  your running ubuntu in a vm ? or a vm in ubuntu
[08:47] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       and if I install VirtualBox ? Could I then access my old VMware-Ubuntu?
[08:48] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  you may need to convert the HD images to a differnt format.
[08:48] <thatoneguy> I've been using it, waiting for it to get hot... and realized I haven't had compiz on... maybe it's that?
[08:48] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  if you converted the HD images to 'raw' format - i think you could mount them directly
[08:48] <_Matze_> dr_willis:       I'm running Ubuntu in a VM: Guest Ubuntu, Host WinXP
[08:49] <dr_willis> _Matze_:  so load the vm app, tweak its settings to mount/boot the iso file.. and let it boot up.
[08:49] <dr_willis> vbox even lets you use its menus to load a cd, and reboot..
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: that makes me think you don't have the right video card drivers installed
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> !ati | thatoneguy
[08:52] <banseljaj> hey guys, which is the command that lets you change which daemons are run on startup?
[08:53] <dr_willis> i just rename the /etc/init/whatever.conf file to whatever.dontrun   ;)
[08:54] <dr_willis> not sure what gui 'service' manager tools work these days with upstart
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> !upstart
[08:56] <flipscript> Hello room! I recently upgraded Kubuntu and my VirtualBox stopped working. "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)" is what I get when launching a VM. I tried reinstalling the application and rebuilding the kernel; and the suggestions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885936. I'm at a total loss on how to fix this,  Any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> flipscript: what happens when you run "sudo modprobe vboxdrv"?
[08:58] <flipscript> let me give that a try, one sec. Thanks Darwin....
[08:59] <thatoneguy> I just have an integrated intel graphics card
[08:59] <ikonia> thatoneguy: thank the lucky stars, intel cards are well supported,
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> ikonia: except that it doesn't solve his overheating problem :(
[09:00] <flipscript> OMG
[09:00] <flipscript> !!!
[09:00] <flipscript> Dude
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> flipscript: worked?
[09:00] <flipscript> I luv you so much right now
[09:00] <flipscript> yes
[09:00] <Starwood> haha
[09:00] <flipscript> What magic did you do sir?
[09:00] <flipscript> wow
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> flipscript: that was in the first comment on the page you liked to...
[09:01] <thatoneguy> Is 60 ok to run at? it was way hotter earlier
[09:01] <flipscript> Really! >< How did I miss that one. I must have been burt out and missed it. Thanks, I guess I'll have to work on my reading skills
[09:01] <flipscript> lol derp
[09:01] <thatoneguy> Also, I'm using whatever driver came with the installation...
[09:02] <DarwinSurvivor> flipscript: save that command, you will probably need it again if you are using virtualbox!
[09:03] <flipscript> lol ok will do, thanks again!
[09:03] <knowj> I've setup a new user and assigned the www-data as a secondary group to it. Is it possible to have all files created by this users to be created with user1:www-data ownership?
[09:03] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: is there a little icon just to the left of the envelope icon at the top of the screen?
[09:04] <thatoneguy> DarwinSurvivor: nope
[09:05] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: can you run "additional drivers" from the applications menu?
[09:06] <thatoneguy> It said no proprietary drivers are in use and had no other options but to close
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: ok, then it's most likely not a video card problem
[09:10] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: is it relatively cool right now?
[09:10] <thatoneguy> Yea, it's fine right now, just a little warm, nothing unusual and it says 54C
[09:11] <banseljaj> Suys, bind9 is in a weird state now. It can't be uninstalled or updated. and it's not stopping or restarting. what should I do?
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: did you ever take temperature reading in windows (for comparison)?
[09:13] <thatoneguy> No :-\ But the difference was quite significant... like almost burning me hot... I immediately turned it off in fear lol
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: ok, then we'll test by feal
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> *feel
[09:13] <alusion> Hey I booted into ubuntu but everything is frozen, I can still log into the shell
[09:14] <alusion> How do I unfreeze my desktop?
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: please install "stress" (sudo apt-get install stress)
[09:14] <thatoneguy> got it, now what
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> how many processors & cores does your system have?
[09:15] <MarcoPau> hi, is it possible to show the recently installed packages from shell?
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> MarcoPau: /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[09:16] <thatoneguy> quad core, 1 processor (i5)
[09:16] <wiseguysonly> Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'd like my Mutt to use Openssl instead of Gnutls on Ubuntu.
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: ok, then run "stress -c 4" and tell me if it starts getting hot :)
[09:16] <MarcoPau> DarwinSurvivor: thank you
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: hit Ctrl+c to kill the program if it does get hot
[09:17] <Onixs> ubuntu is running great on vbox
[09:18] <MarcoPau> DarwinSurvivor: althou I don't seem to have the very last installed packages in there... I wanted to install some debug packages after a crash and wanted to check which ones they were in order to purge them after solving the problem
[09:18] <AgenSpockSharath> hi how do i hide my ubuntu username from my IRC handle?
[09:18] <thatoneguy> is this indefinite?
[09:19] <dr_willis> AgenSpockSharath:  many clients let you select what name to use
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: yes, it will run until you kill it
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: sorry, should have mentioned that :P
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: did it get hot?
[09:20] <dr_willis> AgenSpockSharath:  for more security get an irc cloak
[09:20] <dr_willis> !cloak | AgenSpockSharath
[09:20] <thatoneguy> It's barely warm... *shrug* I really don't know.  It's happened multiple times... just now right now.  Maybe I'm just having good luck :)
[09:20] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: ok, then it's not your processor causing problems (that stress program just ran all 4 cpu cores to 100%)
[09:21] <thatoneguy> harddrive?
[09:21] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: did you say that running compiz triggered it?
[09:21] <thatoneguy> I thought it may have, but I've had compiz open this whole time and it's been fine
[09:22] <DarwinSurvivor> thatoneguy: brb
[09:23] <thatoneguy> It's alright man.  Thanks for the help, I'll probably be back sometime :P I have a CS final in the morning -_- (it's 5am) bye!
[09:25] <DarwinSurvivor> well i'm back, but i guess thatoneguy's gone
[09:25] <DarwinSurvivor> oh well
[09:32] <bodom> I think I've found a bug in ubuntu
[09:33] <bodom> It looks like sysctl network settings are applied after starting the network, can someone please confirm me this?
[09:33] <callipygous> How to install gtkgrapher?
[09:34] <dr_willis> !find gtkgrapher
[09:34] <dr_willis> callipygous:  from a ppa, or by source/compile it seems
[09:43] <callipygous> I have no idea how to use that
[09:43] <callipygous> umm, is there a way to use apt-get ?
[09:43] <callipygous> I'm trying to help someone install it via Skype
[09:43] <callipygous> and I'm not a Ubuntu person
[09:44] <callipygous> I was hoping apt-get install gtkgraph would have done the trick
[09:44] <OriginalYankster> WARNING; noob alert. Both to IRC and Linux. Having issues booting Ubuntu 12.04 on brand new HDD w/o OS - creating disk image and bootable USB from OSx Lion. Am I screwed from the get-go?
[09:45] <OriginalYankster> *Mbp for creating usb, trying to boot into stationary PC
[09:45] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: what hardware are you running on ?
[09:45] <OriginalYankster> The Macbook or PC? Thanks for the reply
[09:45] <OriginalYankster> :)
[09:45] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: sorry, which one are you running on a macbook or a PC
[09:49] <informatics> hello
[09:49] <informatics> im from informatics
[09:51] <callipygous> hmmm
[09:51] <callipygous> does anybody know a good grahping app, like Grapher on OS X?
[09:51] <Blarrffll> informatics hey....
[09:51] <linuxfreaker> Hi Guys
[09:52] <xuserx> hello
[09:52] <OriginalYankster> ikonia running on MBP, trying to install on fresh homebuilt rack. motherboard is Asus p5q pro if that's of any help
[09:53] <linuxfreaker> I tried with Ubuntu 12.04 to get installed on poweredge through UEFI but it too failed. I tried it coz of linux kernel 3.0 but it too failed.Earlier I tried with 11.04 but same fail.
[09:53] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: sorry, I'm not following - what hardware platform are you trying to install ubuntu to
[09:53] <linuxfreaker> DarwinSurvivor: Hey..I am abck
[09:53] <linuxfreaker> It shows "error:prefix not set"
[09:54] <xuserx> i have an error sudo apt-get update >>> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EA8F35793D8809A
[09:54] <xuserx> how can i fix that?
[09:54] <Anomie21> Pitivi has went grey (not responding) for about 30mins now, is there any way to exit without loosing my work?
[09:56] <moviebun> Morning all
[09:56] <xuserx> i have an error sudo apt-get update >>> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EA8F35793D8809A
[09:56] <xuserx> can you help me to fix that error?
[09:58] <chu> xuserx: In the future, be a little more patient. Someone will come to your help when they know your problem. In the mean time, you haven't verified the PPA. There should have been a little code for you to enter to get the associated public key. What is the PPA?
[09:58] <xuserx> can you help me?
[09:59] <xuserx> ppa:flexiondotorg/java
[09:59] <xuserx> file:///home/xman/Desktop/installing-oraclesun-java6jdk-on-ubuntu-12-04
[09:59] <xuserx> im usinng xubuntu 12,04
[10:00] <MordFustang> hi can someone tell me how to copy folder to File System directory?
[10:00] <callipygous> cp
[10:00] <callipygous> cp -r
[10:00] <callipygous> man cp
[10:01] <chu> Ergh, my computer is not a happy camper.
[10:01] <MordFustang> callipygous im not doing this in terminal
[10:02] <chu> xuserx: Hope you don't mind reading: http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu
[10:02] <Xunil> MordFustang: You got the be root: try gksu (or gksudo) nautilus and then copy
[10:03] <vincenzoml> Is there a way to drag a file from one maximised nautilus window to another application? I sort of recall that this was done by hovering the dragged file on the application icon in the dash
[10:03] <xuserx> so i cant fix that error?
[10:03] <vincenzoml> launcher
[10:03] <chu> xuserx: Did you read the page?
[10:03] <xuserx> that ppa is not for ubu12.04
[10:03] <Anomie21> Argh this Pitivi is a POS, freezes once I load 10+ pictures onto it
[10:03] <Anomie21> :/
[10:03] <chu> xuserx: You just have to add the PPAs key to your install.
[10:03] <xuserx> how can i do that?
[10:04] <chu> xuserx: By reading that page I linked you to.
[10:05] <chu> I have no idea what the public key for the PPA you are using is, you'll have to hunt that down on your own.
[10:05] <xiobe> Hi, i am thinking of playing with metal as a service (MAAS) but I have a question I can't seem to find the answer to. Can I deploy other OS than Ubuntu? The reason why I need to know is because I want to manage the infrastructure with a limited set of tools.
[10:07] <xuserx> can i add that key using terminal?
[10:08] <xuserx> chu:can i add that key using terminal?
[10:08] <chu> Sure.
[10:08] <xuserx> how ?
 ah, apologies - like i said: noob =P the problem's a bit complicated and i've tried several different things, is there anywhere i can send you a longer message describing the whole deal?
[10:09] <chu> Maybe you shouldn't be using PPAs.
[10:11] <chu> xuserx: From doing a search on google, this is what has come up: `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name' will add the PPA and apparently fetch the key also.
[10:11] <exiff> Hallo... where are backgrounds and emblems in 12.04?
[10:11] <xuserx> chu: doesnt work
[10:11] <xuserx> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[10:12] <chu> Obviously you're going to need to replace the ppa:user/ppa-name with the one you mentioned above.
[10:13] <exiff> Also, how do i customise the theme?
[10:14] <xuserx> how can i ignore that error
[10:14] <xuserx> ?
[10:15] <chu> By not reading it?
[10:15] <dontknow> can i ask question about arch?
[10:15] <xuserx> i see it every time when i update system
[10:15] <chu> dontknow: No
[10:16] <xuserx> using upfdate manager
[10:16] <xuserx> update*
[10:16] <chu> xuserx: Yep, because there is no key associated with the PPA, and PPAs make strict requirements they want keys.
[10:16] <chu> xuserx: Follow the steps above to add the associated key
[10:16] <chu> xuserx: `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:flexiondotorg/java'
[10:17] <xuserx> i aleready tried
[10:17] <shani0610> Hello people, I just WGET'd a small mp3 file but I am not getting the location. where should I look into?
[10:17] <OriginalYankster> WARNING; noob alert. Both to IRC and Linux. Having issues booting Ubuntu 12.04 on PC without OS - creating disk image and bootable USB from OSx Lion.
[10:17] <xuserx> and doesnt work
[10:17] <DJones> dontknow: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, I think the Arch channel is #archlinux
[10:17] <OriginalYankster> *booting for install
[10:17] <chu> xuserx: So, I'm having difficult working out which one you tried. There are two I have given you, one with ppa:user/ppa-name and one with the actual text pasted in.
[10:18] <chu> xuserx: And "doesn't work" doesn't really give me any indication what's going on.
[10:19] <rabbi1> i can see few fonts from specimen font viewer, how can i get the path of the particular font ?
[10:19] <xuserx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/979582/
[10:19] <Starwood> shani0610: It depends on the directory you were in when you downloaded it.
[10:20] <xuserx> now,can you help me ?
[10:20] <shani0610> I was here: root@ad-linbox:~#
[10:20] <chu> xuserx: I don't know, apparently there's no key there. You might want to look around the web site where that PPA is and see if they have anything to say about it.
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> xuserx better contact the maintainer of the PPA
[10:21] <chu> xuserx: I can't really help you - I have no idea what you're trying to do (what that PPA does), I have no idea how PPAs work in general, I have just done some quick google searching. Sorry I can't be of more help.
[10:22] <rabbi1> guys, how can i find a particular font path ?
[10:22] <Starwood> shani0610: Looks like your home directory, so your /home/username/
[10:22] <Wipster> afternoon all, can anyone recommend a disk checking utility? I need to check my usb as I think its on the way out, cheers.
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> xuserx  a PPA is an 'external' software source and not supported here
[10:23] <shani0610> been there nope, no traces
[10:23] <xuserx> i had the same error with opera
[10:24] <alusion_> Hello Ubuntu I am using gnome and my super key won't bring up the activities screen anymore what happened?
[10:24] <xuserx> that ppa is usable but that error is annoying
[10:24] <xuserx> how can i disable gpg errors ?
[10:24] <OriginalYankster> No takers on Ubuntu 12.04 install from bootable USB? It's quite an interesting story...
[10:26] <Starwood> shani0610: Hidden file by chance?
[10:26] <Wipster> OriginalYankster, there is a step by step on the website http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[10:26] <reynir> Since I have upgraded to 12.04 the keyboard has stopped working in X.org three times. Killing xmonad "helps" but it's a very poor solution. Is this a known issue?
[10:26] <rtp2342> shani0610: maybe you want to look at /root
[10:27] <shani0610> nope I have already allowed hidden files...
[10:27] <gaston_> hi guys, i'm trying to install a driver to be able to use my video aquisition card on ubuntu, been through 3 tutorials, anyone familiar with that?
[10:27] <rtp2342> shani0610: seems you were root when running wget
[10:28] <shani0610> yep I was so how to get that file?
[10:28] <shani0610> I got no access to root folder
[10:28] <rtp2342> shani0610: of course, normal users are not allowed to read/write the /root directory
[10:28] <rabbi1> guys, how can i find a particular font path ? tried checking in font.conf but no luck :(
[10:28] <rtp2342> shani0610: why did you wget the file as user root anyway?
[10:29] <shani0610> It was a crappy mistake I was apt-ing afew apps.
[10:30] <rtp2342> shani0610: then log in as root again, move the file to your normal user's home dir and chown it to that user
[10:30] <shani0610> ok guys thanx
[10:30] <rtp2342> shani0610: mv /root/blah.mp3 /home/user/ ; chown user:user /home/user/blah.mp3
[10:31] <Beel> I'm using the Ubuntu live CD and I'm trying to install ubuntu on a different hard drive than where I have windows installed. It keeps telling me "No root file system defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu" I thought I knew what I was doing, but I don't.
 thanks for the reply, however i've already created the USB AND had it successfully boot into Ubuntu on my PC with no OS - then realizing I forgot to connect my HDD to it's SATA port. Powered down, plugged in HDD, now all I get "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt".. *scratches head*
[10:31] <nmarques> anyone can tell me the default console font on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:32] <Wipster> OriginalYankster, its possible the usb is corrupted then if you hold shift while its booting and choose check disk integrity
[10:34] <rabbi1> guys, how can i find a particular font path ? tried checking in font.conf but no luck :(
[10:35] <fotomonster> i need some help compiling an application that requires wxWidgets to be compiled with OpenGL support
[10:35] <fotomonster> it seems like libwxgtk isn't
[10:37] <zh> hi
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> nmarques  monospace 12
[10:38]  * warka runs with fonts
 Ok, thank you for the tip! Just go called out on a job so I can't check till tonite - should I buy a new USB pen and try it then, or would it be enough to format the USB?
[10:42] <gaston_> when i try to modprobe raw1394, it can't find it. anyone knows why/how?
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !tab| OriginalYankster
[10:44] <Wipster> OriginalYankster, depends putting the image back on might be enough or it might be a duff usb
 thanks, not sure if i'm doing it right though - <> with nick in between?
[10:46] <rebourn> how do I dind out if I have a 32bit or 64 bit ubuntu
[10:47] <Ben64> uname -a
 Ok, I'll get an extra drive just in case - just can't figure out why it decided to go nuts once i plugged in a hard drive =P thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!
[10:48] <Ben64> OriginalYankster: if you put people's names in <> it makes it look like you're quoting them, not talking to them
[10:48] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: again, I'm still not sure what hardware platform you're actually trying to install to
[10:48] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: could you please confirm what you are trying to install to
[10:50] <Anomie21> Is there anyway I can give a specific program a higher priority? So it gets allocated more RAM/CPU?
[10:50] <rebourn> Linux laftof 3.2.0-24-generic-pae #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 10:47:59 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:50] <rebourn> 32 bit?
[10:51] <ikonia> rebourn: correct
[10:51] <rebourn> ty
[10:51] <ikonia> Anomie21: doesn't quite work like that, what are you trying to do any what problem are you having
[10:51] <ikonia> Anomie21: you can change priorities of things, but it won't do what you're after, are you having a problem with a specific program/instance
[10:51] <Anomie21> ikonia: Trying to compile a movie file in Pitvi and it keeps freezing
[10:52] <ikonia> amogorkon: have you any idea why it's freezing ?
[10:52] <ikonia> oops
[10:52] <Anomie21> ikonia: Take it that was meant for me? Nop, I assume because it's too resource heavy for my pc
[10:52] <ikonia> Anomie21: have you any idea why it's freezong
[10:53] <rebourn> what is "pae"
[10:53] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, lets not assume anything, lets work it through (glad you explained the problem - try to explain the real issue than guessing at a fix)
[10:53] <Anomie21> but I dont have problems with any other apps
[10:53] <ikonia> rebourn: extended memeory support in 32bit kernels
[10:53] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, so what makes you think it's lack of resources (I'm assuming you've done some research on this)
[10:54] <Ngevd> I'm a bit annoyed
[10:54] <Anomie21> ikonia: Because when I was making the movie I had to move things slowly or it would freeze
[10:54] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, so lets step back, do you have time to run some tests with me ?
[10:54] <Anomie21> yeah sure
[10:54] <Ngevd> Because 12.04 doesn't seem to have the driver for my laptop's touchpad
[10:54] <Ngevd> But everything worked brilliantly when I booted from USB?
[10:55] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, tell me a little about your machine, how much ram do you have ?
[10:55] <Anomie21> ikonia: 2GB ram, 2GB swap
[10:55] <Ngevd> Hang on, idea
[10:56] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, so that's pretty "solid" in terms of spec
[10:56] <Anomie21> 68.8% of RAM is being used, 45% of my CPU
[10:56] <ikonia> Anomie21: can you open a terminal window please ?
[10:56] <Anomie21> ikonia: yep
[10:56] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, I'd like you to close everything apart from your video encoding app and the terminal window, can you do that please ?
[10:56] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: thanks for sticking with me on this! I'm not sure what you mean by hardware platform... could you elaborate for a lesser technical dude? =P
[10:57] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: "what type of machine are you trying to install ubuntu onto "
[10:57] <Anomie21> ikonia: what about my IRC app? :P
[10:57] <ikonia> Anomie21: ahhh, you're using that PC for irc too, ok, leave that open
[10:57] <ikonia> Anomie21: I'm assuming if this freezes you'll reboot and re-join
[10:57] <Anomie21> okay, I've closed all chats but this one
[10:58] <ikonia> Anomie21: do you have a "numlock" and/or "capslock" light on your keyboard ?
[10:58] <Anomie21> yep
[10:58] <ikonia> Anomie21: can you confirm both/either work now
[10:58] <ikonia> Anomie21: eg: turn them on/off
[10:58] <Anomie21> yep they both work
[10:58] <ikonia> Anomie21: great, ok, so in a minute we are going to run a test encode on your video
[10:59] <ikonia> Anomie21: I'm going to give you some information to note down first though, incase this machine freezes
[10:59] <Anomie21> k
[10:59] <ikonia> Anomie21: in the terminal window can you please top "top"
[10:59] <ikonia> Anomie21: you should get a resource monitor
[10:59] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: ah... It's a home built, no specific model... Stationary cabinet w/ Asus p5q pro motherboard, Sapphire Radeon grahpics and 8gb ram
[10:59] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: ok, but it's an "x86" or "intel" style computer, not the mac platform
[10:59] <Anomie21> ikonia: yep
[11:00] <ikonia> Anomie21: great, take a quick look at that top output now, (ignore the ram for the moment) does it look "generic" as in nothing is eating your resources now ?
[11:00] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: intel, not a mac platform
[11:00] <Anomie21> Yep, only unusual thing is 'python' using 22.3% of my RAM - is that the video encoding?
[11:00] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: ok, is there a reason you're not just doing a standard install from CD
[11:01] <ikonia> Anomie21: are you encoding a video now ?
[11:01] <mafiaboy> any one know how to install aircrack-ng in ubuntu 12.04
[11:01] <Anomie21> ikonia: It says 'Rendering - Estimating time' (has done for the past 20min) not sure if it's actually doing anything
[11:01] <segakanon> hi, all
[11:02] <possible1994> I cannot install 12.04. The last message on the screen when trying to boot it is "panic occured, returning to console" I have tried failsafe, alternate install, and USB install
[11:02] <possible1994> same result every time
[11:02] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok - give me 2 minutes, just need to pop away from my desk for a moment
[11:02] <LjL> mafiaboy: like all other software, by using Software Center, apt-get or Synaptic
[11:03] <possible1994> How do I install 12.04 when every time the kernel is "tainted"
[11:03] <mafiaboy> i think it's not included in this release
[11:03] <mafiaboy> LjL
[11:03] <LjL> mafiaboy: yes it is, i've just checked on my computer
[11:04] <auronandace> !find aircrack
[11:04] <LjL> mafiaboy: uhm, actually packages.ubuntu.com doesn't give it. i see it in my apt-get though
[11:04] <auronandace> LjL: not running backtrack are you :)
[11:05] <mafiaboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/979637/  :LjL
[11:05] <gaston_> hi guys, i'm trying to use an external video aquisition card, but it won't work
[11:05] <DX099> auronandace, http://download.aircrack-ng.org/aircrack-ng-1.1.tar.gz
[11:05] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, you still there
[11:05] <gaston_> it seems raw1394 is not used anymore by 12.04
[11:05] <LjL> auronandace: nah. mafiaboy, i do seem to have an Oneiric repository enabled for some reason though, so it must be that.
[11:05] <auronandace> DX099: thanks for the link but i don't need it
[11:05] <DX099> ah
[11:05] <gaston_> so i tried other solutions, went through several tutos and forums, couldn't find a solution
[11:06] <gaston_> would really appreciate some help
[11:06] <Anomie21> ikonia: yeah sorry was just getting my lunch off the wee sandwich guy :)
[11:06] <semen> Hi! I have troubles with laptop LCD brightness control under Xubuntu 12.04. Can anybody help?
[11:06] <ikonia> Anomie21: not a problem
[11:06] <DX099> mafiaboy, http://download.aircrack-ng.org/aircrack-ng-1.1.tar.gz ?
[11:06] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, in top, the far left there is a PID colomn, I'd like you to "kill -11 $PID" in another terminal
[11:07] <Anomie21> mglasgow@mglasgow-HP-Compaq-dx7500-Microtower:~$ kill -11 $PID
[11:07] <Anomie21> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[11:07] <auronandace> ikonia: -11? whats that do?
[11:07] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: yes, the machine has no optic drive =P i've already created the USB AND had it successfully boot into Ubuntu on my PC with no OS - then realizing I forgot to connect my HDD to it's SATA port. Powered down, plugged in HDD, now all I get "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt".. *scratches head*
[11:08] <DX099> mafiaboy, #aircrack-ng
[11:08] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: plugging in your hard disk has probably changed the order of your disks in the bios
[11:09] <ikonia> Anomie21: sorry replace $PID with the PID number (in top) of the python process
[11:09] <auronandace> ikonia: i've seen kill -9 but not kill -11, whats the difference?
[11:09] <ikonia> auronandace: graceful
[11:10] <Anomie21> ikonia: Ah, I see. Done. it appears to have quit pitivi
[11:10] <gaston_> hi guys, i'm trying to use an external video aquisition card, but it won't work. anyone familiar with that?
[11:10] <ikonia> Anomie21: that's good
[11:10] <auronandace> ikonia: cool, thanks for the info
[11:10] <rtp2342> auronandace: -11 is SIGSEGV, so it simulates a segmentation fault in the target process
[11:10] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, what I'd like you to do, is open the encoding application and run an encode
[11:10] <auronandace> rtp2342: ah, neat
[11:10] <ikonia> Anomie21: keep an eye on your resources in the top window, you should seem them get used quite agressivly (which is good)
[11:11] <mafiaboy> thanx ....i will try compiling it
[11:11] <ikonia> Anomie21: if you have any concerns if your machine has hung, tap capslock/numlock, if the light responds, it's still "ok"
[11:12] <TvL2386> Hi guys, I'm running ubuntu12.04 with a HP NC550SFP 10G NIC (Emulex OneConnect) and I'm experiencing packet drops/overruns. Traffic going through is 140MBIT/~40000 p/s and I experience about 1 overrun every 2 seconds. I think it's an issue with the be2net driver (another machine running 10.04 on myricom 10G nics has 10 times the load and drops/overruns nothing) Anybody here got any idea or experiences the same?
[11:12] <ikonia> Anomie21: keep an eye on the "swap" section in top, the total and the used column
[11:12] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: have tried formatting USB and starting over, as well as played wildly boot priority/device emulation and still nothing... leaning towards tip from <Wipster> that USB is screwed...
[11:12] <ikonia> Anomie21: if the total and used column are the same number (eg: you've used all available swap) your machine is running low on resources
[11:13] <Anomie21> ikonia: Seems like there is plenty of swap, RAM, and CPU
[11:13] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, start an encode and see what happens
[11:13] <Anomie21> but it's still running at a snails pace :(
[11:13] <ikonia> Anomie21: interesting, so you know you're not shy on resources then
[11:13] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: unplug your disk and try to boot the USB disk, does it still work again ?
[11:15] <gaston_> auronandace, i see you're still online, maybe you have a quick fix for me ^^
[11:15] <apctr> hi all can any one tell me how to install Micromax modem on ubuntu 9.10
[11:16] <gaston_> (btw, struggled, but have managed to compile a working version of 1.1.13 vlc)
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> !9.10| gaston_
[11:16] <gaston_> !9.10 | apctr
[11:16] <gaston_> MonkeyDust, but thx ^ ^
[11:17] <gaston_> auronandace, i'm trying to install a driver for a external video aquisition connected through firewire
[11:17] <Anomie21> ikonia: Anything else I can do? Just leave it for a few hours and see it works?
[11:17] <apctr> gaston_: Ya i'm using 9.10...becoz i have created a  local repository for that one...
[11:17] <ikonia> Anomie21: let it run, lets see what happens
[11:17] <auronandace> gaston_: i have no experience with firewire
[11:17] <gaston_> i see that raw1394 and such are not used anymore in 12.04?
[11:18] <gaston_> auronandace, oh then forget it, thanks anyways :)
[11:18] <Anomie21> Time to investigate online photo slideshow makers :P
[11:18] <rtp2342> gaston_: raw1394 belongs to the old firewire stack and is deprecated
[11:18] <ikonia> Anomie21: you'll need to let one run as a benchmark to see if we can improve it
[11:18] <Wipster> The ubuntu 12.04 server i386 I have on a usb keeps failing its md5 check on ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default, I have checked the md5 of the iso and its correct and I have used two different usb's. is there a known problem with the current server image?
[11:18] <ikonia> Anomie21: out of interest, how big is this movie encode ?
[11:19] <gaston_> rtp2342, so what do i need to do to use my video card?
[11:19] <rtp2342> gaston_: i don't know if there is a replacement for raw1394 in the new stack
[11:19] <ikonia> Wipster: why is a usb key looking at a pxe config ?
[11:19] <gaston_> rtp2342, i don't really need a replacement, i just need to be able to grab from my cam ;)
[11:19] <rtp2342> gaston_: never had any devices requiring raw firewire access
[11:19] <Wipster> ikonia, doing a disk self check before I attempt to install
[11:20] <gaston_> i'm on a canopus avdc100,
[11:20] <rtp2342> gaston_: the only firewire device i ever worked with was my old external hard disk
[11:20] <stangri> I need some help with problems after upgrading my server from 10.04 to 12.04, is there anyone who can help me troubleshoot these?
[11:20] <gaston_> rtp2342, but as far as I know, all video grabbers are firewire, no?
[11:20] <Anomie21> ikonia: Not sure, 33 .TIFFs at about 500MB going in, not sure whatll that be once its converted
[11:20] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: i'll be darned.. Nope, doesn't work. USB skrewd?
[11:20] <ikonia> OriginalYankster: it certainly sounds that way
[11:20] <rtp2342> gaston_: sorry, no experience with video grabbers
[11:20] <ikonia> Anomie21: ok, just trying to get an idea of the size
[11:21] <ikonia> Wipster: ok, so don't worry about pxeconfig as your not using pxe
[11:21] <gaston_> rtp2342, easy, i'll keep looking and ask again ;)
[11:21] <Anomie21> ikonia: http://www.photosnack.com/ <-- Looks like a lot easier solution :P
[11:21] <stangri> first of all, the asterisk.org has no binary packages for 12.04 so I'm stuck with the reference to oneiric in sources.list
[11:21] <stangri> should I just remove this reference?
[11:22] <Wipster> ikonia, as the self check fails on that package how do I know the rest is fine? Will this problem be corrected in the next ico packing?
[11:22] <Wipster> *iso
[11:22] <ikonia> Wipster: no idea what you're talking about "next iso packaging", if the iso verify's the md5sum you should be fine
[11:22] <skulltip> morning, should I install a fresh 12.04 or upgrade? any difference?
[11:22] <rtp2342> gaston_: from the help text of the new firewire stack: "the module will be called firewire-core. This module functionally replaces ieee1394, raw1394, and video1394. To access it from application programs, you generally need at least libraw1394 v2."
[11:23] <Wipster> ikonia, but it fails its self test which is worrying
[11:23] <rtp2342> gaston_: so i guess your framegrabbing app has to support libraw1394 v2.
[11:23] <zvacet> skulltip:you will  end up with same result
[11:23] <auronandace> skulltip: more can go wrong with an upgrade (especially if you use ppas)
[11:23] <edgy> Hi, I installed squid but it's listening on tcp6 only, what can I do to fix this?
[11:23] <ikonia> Wipster: depends what that self test is checking for, you're using the netboot option, I'm not sure how well that CD is put tgother
[11:23] <gaston_> rtp2342, hm i think i have it, but let me try again
[11:24] <skulltip> ok thanks auronandace and zvacet
[11:24] <ikonia> Wipster: either way, you're not using the pxeboot stuff, so you shouldn't have a problem
[11:24] <ikonia> edgy: change the config to include ipv4 options
[11:24] <ikonia> edgy: how did you install squid
[11:24] <Wipster> ikonia, ok cheers, shall just go for it then
[11:24] <skulltip> if i install alongside my prev install, is there a way to remove the prev install later on?
[11:24] <edgy> ikonia: sudo apt-get install squid3
[11:24] <OriginalYankster> ikonia: all right, out for a new USB pen it is! Thank you guys for all your help!
[11:24] <ikonia> edgy: should be fine then
[11:24] <auronandace> skulltip: i keep everything i need on a seperate partition so fresh installs are a breeze (also backup to external harddrive too)
[11:25] <edgy> ikonia: which line I need to change please?
[11:25] <skulltip> yes i have home on another drive even
[11:25] <edgy> ikonia: and why it's not a default?
[11:25] <ikonia> edgy: no idea, not got the config file in front of me, it should be ipv4 by default
[11:25] <zvacet> skulltip:yes you can remove it but no need for that use CD or usb to ugrade
[11:26] <zvacet> skulltip: do you have separate home partition
[11:26] <skulltip> separate harddrive
[11:26] <alusion_> Ubuntu, I have ran off a dual boot with windows 7 for some time now but now I want to go all Linux, how do I format my primary drive to ext4 from ntfs when it's mounted as /host?
[11:26] <alusion_> It seems you are talking of something similar o_o
[11:27] <edgy> ikonia: I have a line saying: http_port 3128
[11:27] <skulltip> install and edit fstab to point to it
[11:27] <zvacet> skulltip: ok you have few drives,bnut do you have separate home partition for ubuntu
[11:27] <Anomie21> I love ubuntu, just batch converted 30 .TIFFs to .JPG. Wouldve taken me ages in PS
[11:27] <skulltip> yes, my mounted home is on sdb, install is on sda
[11:28] <zvacet> skulltip:  then do upgrade from cd or usb
[11:29] <skulltip> ok zvacet thanks
[11:29] <zvacet> skulltip: if something goes wrong you have install media and your files are safe
[11:29] <ki4ro> When I try to run freshclam:  ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:29] <ki4ro> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).
[11:29] <gaston_> rtp2342, just talked to the guys from vlc, shouldn't change from vlc's pov
[11:29] <ki4ro> Any ideas? Please and thank you.
[11:29] <zvacet> skulltip: it is faster if you use usb
[11:29] <gaston_> so must be local. i'm trying with kino, and dvgrab
[11:31] <gaston_> brb
[11:37] <Anomie21> wtf, $19 to download this slideshow
[11:37]  * Anomie21 gets out his flash ripper
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Anyone else noticed or heard of others with an issue where using 12.04 and a Nvidia card - X seems to 'bog down' after running for a long time (like 12+ hrs)   Just sitting on the desktop. i come back and everything is sluggish.  - i log out/back in and its all backto being speedy
[11:42] <Jbarcus81> Good day!
[11:44] <Jbarcus81> Question.. Long time Ubuntu user, first time putting it on my laptop by Asus... I can't get the power settings to extend my battery life at all.. I can get about 5 hours if not more on Windows .. but Ubuntu drains it in about an hour or less.. what gives??
[11:45] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  what version of ubuntu?
[11:46] <Jbarcus81> 12.04 x64
[11:46] <Dr_willis> You have one of those dual-gpu optimus laptops?
[11:47] <Jbarcus81> It has an Intel Core i-5
[11:47] <Jbarcus81> But Intel HD 3000 Graphics
[11:47] <Dr_willis> well that elimimtes the only idea i have on  whats sucking the battery.
[11:48] <Jbarcus81> lol... I have no idea.. I have it set to suspend when I close the lid.. .It seems to start to do this but locks up and I have to power down and back on to get it back..
[11:49] <idodeisuke> What's new in 12.04 except some changes in this horrible Unity UI?
[11:49] <idodeisuke> And some new default apps...?
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Unity works very well.
[11:49] <Dr_willis> its Hud feature is very nice. there has also been battery/power optimzations.
[11:50] <Dr_willis> the webupd8 blog site and omgubuntu site have summaries of the new featutres.
[11:50] <idodeisuke> @Dr_willis oh cool will it eat less battery power? COOL!!
[11:51] <Dr_willis> idodeisuke,  from what ive read the 'bugs' with the older releases  and their power manager has been fixed. but aparently some people still have issues.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Ive not noticed much differance on my netbook
[11:51] <Jbarcus81> idodeisuke, about battery life? I'm not so sure... My laptop still locks up when I close the lid..
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  how old is that laptop anyway?
[11:52] <Jbarcus81> I bought it in February ...
[11:53] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  ive often found that 'very new' laptops tend to be more problematic, untill the next release of ubuntu comes out.  ie: one i bought right NOW may have issues that may get fixed with the next 6 mo release.
[11:53] <Dr_willis> often its kernel bugs/fix's that are the main cause/cure.
[11:53] <idodeisuke> Well, my laptop now is a real antique piece of ****, my normal laptop has gone missing ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-(((((((((((((((((((((
[11:53] <guest1999> hello there
[11:54] <idodeisuke> @guest1999 hello
[11:54] <guest1999> i need help (please) with compiling
[11:54] <Dr_willis> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246432/expect_longer_battery_life_with_ubuntu_linux_1204_precise_pangolin.html
[11:54] <Dr_willis> !compile
[11:54] <guest1999> im compiling a fortran lib & i am getting a warning in regard of zlib
[11:54] <MorganJarl> After trying to change my home folder to a separate partition and upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 at the same time I can't log in to my user anymore, I have to use the guest log in. It seems something went wrong with the mounting of the partition or something. When ever I log in (with the right password - If I use the wrong one the login complains) I end up on the login page again. I can't SUDO as guest so I cant get to my f
[11:54] <MorganJarl> iles to change what ever went wrong. I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving Now I can't reinstal 11.10 - it doesn't want to boot from the cd nor the usb stick. I have a brand new Dell Inspiron N411Z
[11:54] <Wipster> ikonia, apparently there is a problem with the base-packages the installer fails
[11:54] <jrib> guest1999: what fortran lib?
[11:54] <Jbarcus81> I just wonder if it's kernel based issues ... Ubuntu isn't the only Distro I have issues with on this laptop...
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  for your power issues you may want to check ->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement
[11:55] <guest1999> Muesli: people.irisa.fr/Edouard.Canot/muesli/
[11:55] <Taneb> I messed up installing, now when I turn my laptop on I get "grub rescue". Any advice?
[11:55] <Jbarcus81> Dr_willis, on my way!!
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  if nothing else.. you can at least file some bug reports. so hopefully it gets  fixed/looked at for the next rel4ease
[11:55] <Wipster> ikonia, this is with the standard ubuntu-12.04-server-i386 image
[11:55] <kmels> - hello, i have added a second monitor that xrandr doesn't detect, but it shows an ubuntu image, where should I look further?
[11:55] <idodeisuke> Does Xubuntu also have all these power mgmt advantages without this horrid ui?
[11:55] <guest1999> i compiled it successfully on 12.04 but im getting the warning on 11.10
[11:55] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub |  Taneb
[11:55] <Jbarcus81> Dr_willis, definitely can do that..
[11:56] <Dr_willis> idodeisuke,  enough with the ranting about the ui. and yes. all the ubuntu variants should have the same underlaying features.
[11:56] <Sidewinder> Taneb, Back-up, if needed and re-install?
[11:56] <guest1999> idodeisuke: getting this:Warning: you don't have the zlib library!   -> data compression in file I/O will not be available,      therefore, please consider installing 'zlib'.      (for Fedora distrib., install the 'zlib-devel' package)
[11:56] <Taneb> Sidewinder: how do I find the things to back up?
[11:57] <Taneb> Nevermind, found them
[11:57] <Dr_willis> guest1999,  install the zlib and zlib-dev packages yet?
[11:57] <idodeisuke> @Dr_willis thx and OK I will stop ranting about the UI... Reluctantly >:D
[11:57] <Dr_willis> people complain no matter what.. so its pointless and not the point of this channel in any case.
[11:57] <guest1999> Dr_willis: i already install zlib1g-dev
[11:57]  * Dr_willis Hugs the 12.04 Hud.
[11:57] <guest1999> as i did on 12.04
[11:58] <gaston_> hm still not working... Anyone used firewire video card on 12.04?
[11:58] <Dr_willis> go shotgun on installing anything with zlib  in its name. :) perhaps it wants some older version of the lib
[11:59] <Sidewinder> Taneb, Well, usually in /home, perhaps some user settings; but if it's a new install, I wouldn't suspect that there's much to back up.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> a firewire video card? it displays video? Captures?
[11:59]  * idodeisuke empties a Tavor cartridge  into the 12.04 hud :P
[11:59] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 in GNOME fallback mode and whenever I open Nautalis, I get the "Opening <folder name>", which lingers for quite a while (under a minute still) even though I can use Nautalis to it's full ability and appears to be fully loaded. Anybody know how to get rid of this problem?
[11:59] <Jbarcus81> One last question before I go and it's something I've been wondering for some time.. I know Ubuntu=Gnome, Kubuntu=KDE... What is Xbuntu??
[11:59] <DeltaHeavy> Jbarcus81: XFCE
[11:59] <gaston_> Dr_willis, captures
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  XFCE and Lubuntu = Lxde
[11:59] <gaston_> Dr_willis, camera plugged on one side, computer on the other, via firewire
[11:59] <Jbarcus81> Is there any benefit to using one distro over the other?
[12:00] <guest1999> Dr_willis: it requires 1.2
[12:00] <MorganJarl> anyone have any idea what I could do to fix my files? I don't seam to be able too boot from the live cd...
[12:00] <guest1999> Dr_willis: manual says: ZLIB_1_2 must be assigned to a directory containing the zlib-1.2 library; it should be /usr/lib.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> gaston_,  Hmm. been ages since i used one. last camcorder i had with firewire it actually accessed it as if it was a hard drive.. :)
[12:00] <guest1999> on 12.04 it was auto detected
[12:00] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  you could install all the desktops on the same install if you wanted.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  for low end machines/old skool type interfaces/   i tend to use Lubuntu.
[12:01] <gaston_> Dr_willis, act it send Composite to the card, which then is plugged by firewire to the laptop
[12:01] <guest1999> Dr_willis: I am using the configure: ./configure --f90=gfortran --blas=/usr/lib/ --lapack=/usr/lib/lapack/
[12:01] <DeltaHeavy> Jbarcus81: When it comes to Desktop interfaces it's mostly preferance. Some are more lightweight than others so if you're using a pretty old machine, I'd suggest XFCE, and if you have something even older like a pentium II, LXDE is more lightweight. You can however install any number of Desktop enviroments and switch between them freely but then you have applications that make use of KDE mixed in with GNOME and it can get annoying.
[12:01] <guest1999> & getting the warning mentioned before
[12:01] <profanephobia> I am needing to create an SMTP server on my Ubuntu box that listens on a port and saves all incoming messages to a directory. From there it needs to release any lock on the file. can anyone point me in the right direction
[12:02] <Dr_willis> guest1999,  you may want to change to a better nick.. and you DID set the ZLIB_1_2 enviroment variable? thats how i read wht those docs you pasted said.
[12:02] <Jbarcus81> Interesting.. I have an Asus with a core i-5 so performance isn't a concern... but I've always wanted to try Xbuntu ... is there a trick to this? Will Google give me some good results on how to do this so ya'll don't have to go into it??
[12:02] <CRM114> just upgraded to 12.04 and I have font problems in Konsole
[12:02] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and poof - you got both on the same install.
[12:03] <Jbarcus81> Well bam!
[12:03] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  removeing it.. can be trickier. :) or test a xubuntu live cd first...
[12:03] <CRM114> it looks like freemono is not really monospace
[12:03] <DeltaHeavy> Jbarcus81: If I recall correctly XFCE uses GTK+ just like GNOME so if you installed XFCE in a plain Ubuntu install you shouldn't run into many of the headaches I mentioned before ealier. You can install it with apt-get
[12:03] <Dr_willis> makes the song and dances you got to do on windows to get alternative 'shells' seem redicilous. ;)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> Does lubuntu use gtk? I never noticed.. i think it may for some apps..
[12:04] <Jbarcus81> I'll give it a shot! Thanks..
[12:04] <DeltaHeavy> idk if LXDE uses GTK+. GTK+ does seem to be leading the pack though.
[12:04] <Dr_willis> gtk+ is used by so many things :) i imagine lubuntu uses it for somthing.
[12:04] <bodom> Does anybody if sysctl.conf is applied after /etc/ini.t/networking start in ubuntu?
[12:04] <guest1999> Dr_willis: on 12.04 (amd64) it was auto detected
[12:04] <DeltaHeavy> Jbarcus81: Just playing around with a live CD should suffice if you just wanna try it out. Whole point of live CDs
[12:04] <bodom> *knows
[12:05] <MorganJarl> How do I boot in safe mode with 12.04?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  neat trick 101 - set up grub2 to boot live cds from your hard drive.. :) makes testing out new disrtos fun and faster.
[12:05] <shinichi> is DarwinSurvivor here?
[12:05] <Jbarcus81> Nice tip!! Never would have thought of that Dr_willis !!
[12:06] <Jbarcus81> DeltaHeavy, definitely..
[12:06] <Dr_willis> Jbarcus81,  my /boot/ partion has several ISOS - i can install 12.04 from that /boot/ partion for a VERY fast install.
[12:06] <profanephobia> I am needing to create an SMTP server on my Ubuntu box that listens on a port and saves all incoming messages to a directory. From there it needs to release any lock on the file. can anyone point me in the right direction
[12:07] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  you mean the rescue mode/recovery mode? where you get to a console/menu to do some things?
[12:07] <Jbarcus81> Very slick!
[12:07] <gaston_> Dr_willis, any idea?
[12:08] <MorganJarl> Dr_willis: Yea. I guess. I can't log in with my user only guest and need to change some files. i think.
[12:08] <Jbarcus81> Well I'm off.. thanks for the info and great tips!!
[12:08] <Dr_willis> gaston_,  not really. other then perhaps check askubuntu.com and the forums to see if anyone else has done such a thing.
[12:08] <shinichi> hey can anyone help me about ubuntu 12.04?
[12:09] <gaston_> Dr_willis, yep, been on it for the past 5 hours :D
[12:09] <chrowe_> any have an idea why I can't get my NTFS USB drives to stop auto mounting using gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount False
[12:09] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  you get to the login/lightdm screen and what happens exactly?
[12:09] <Dr_willis> chrowe_,  what release of ubuntu?
[12:09] <shinichi> Dr_willis, sir can you help me about ubuntu 12.04?
[12:10] <Dr_willis> shinichi,  tell the channel the problem and see who can help/knows...
[12:10] <chrowe_> Dr_willis: 11.10
[12:10] <MorganJarl> Dr_willis, I have set my user to log in automatically, but it stops at the log in anyway. So I type in teh pasword, the skreen goes black for half a second (showing some text that I have no time to read) and tehn I am back at the login again.
[12:11] <chrowe_> and I am running nautilus for my file manager
[12:11] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  go to the console, stop lightdm, (sudo service lightdm stop) and try 'startx' and look for error messages.   you could also try making a new user and see if the same issue happens to them.
[12:12] <MorganJarl> Dr_willis, problem is I can only log in as guest so I have no SUDO rights.
[12:12] <Dr_willis> chrowe_,  i alwyas used the 'ntfs-config' tool (had to install it) to set/tweak my ntfs mounting options.  I thought 11.10+ used dconf, not gconf also...
[12:12] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  at the console you cant login?
[12:12] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  alt-ctrl-f1 = console. :)
[12:13] <DeltaHeavy> MorganJarl: Or even better use 'su <username>'
[12:13] <Dr_willis> MorganJarl,  there is a known issue in 12.04 where users cant login via lightdm, but guest can.. (i just installed gdm and i can login with it)
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> 'su - <username>' would be better as it would run that users personal login bash scripts
[12:14] <Dr_willis> Not sure if that lightdm issue has been fixed yet or not.. never heard much about it other then 'it dont work for me, so i use gdm' ;)
[12:14] <DeltaHeavy> If you can't log into the GUI you can still switch users in the terminal. It would blow my mind if you couldn't
[12:14] <Dr_willis> DeltaHeavy,  which is why i think he may be having that lightdm issue..
[12:15] <DeltaHeavy> Can he really not switch users with 'su' in lightdm?
[12:15] <shinichi> ok, erm, i've installed ubuntu 12.04 on a partitioned external hard drive yesterday, after install, ubuntu doesn't boot up and only a black screen greeted me..,but when i boot up my windows 7 it boots up normally..so i tried searching the net for solutions and what i used is easyBCD instead of grub2 which i think has a problem..,anyway, when i choose ubuntu it loads and then gets stuck at the line "starting cmain()...", i tried waiting but nothing hap
[12:15] <shinichi> pened
[12:15] <Dr_willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/986967
[12:16] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130721/12-04-lightdm-cannot-login
[12:16] <DeltaHeavy> That doesn't sound like it would effect 'su' though. It sounds like it's a bug in the GUI app.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> shinichi,  i run my ubuntu system totally from external usbs befor without needing easybcd. I just have to tell the pc to boot the usb. and a black screen could be a 'nomodeset' type issue.
[12:17] <Dr_willis> shinichi,  do you see the grub menu when you boot the external disk?
[12:17] <shinichi> how could i fix it then?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> DeltaHeavy,  thats why i asked if he could login to the console.. but he never replied...
[12:17] <shinichi> err, no, only black screen
[12:17] <Dr_willis> shinichi,  it try the fixgrub factoid tips and seeif you can get grub installed to the usb. it may be it just failed to install right.
[12:18] <DeltaHeavy> Dr_willis: I was just saying 'su' would probably be easier for him especially if he wants to seek more advice from us. That's all.
[12:19] <shinichi> Dr_willis, could trying to use the boot-repair do the job?i can use the trial mode of ubuntu anyway..,
[12:20] <Dr_willis> shinichi,  ive had good luck with that boot-repair tool. i dont think they included it on the default 12.04 live cd. :(
[12:20] <DeltaHeavy> shinichi: Is this your first time trying to run Linux on that specific computer?
[12:20] <skyme> hi
[12:21] <shinichi> Dr_willis, yea, already tried it before because i messed up the boot of my win7, good thing it fixed it..,and yes this would be the first time i'd run ubuntu in my netbook
[12:23] <curiousx> aloha all
[12:23] <vas> hi
[12:24] <DeltaHeavy> shinichi: If it's a netbook this probably isn't an issue but it wouldn't help to look up if anybody had any troubles insall Ubuntu on that specific hardware set
[12:24] <Chuck_Norris> meinwhile Chuck_Norris... http://i.imgur.com/qofpD.jpg  http://i.imgur.com/GscwB.jpg
[12:25] <shinichi> Dr_willis, i see..hmm..will you still be online later?i've gotta go somewhere for a few minutes..,
[12:27] <rsergio> Byen dia para todos
[12:27] <Chuck_Norris> aloha rsergio
[12:28] <rsergio> como estas
[12:28] <Chuck_Norris> bien
[12:28] <rsergio> tengo una pregunta
[12:28] <Chuck_Norris> !es | rsergio
[12:28] <rsergio> como ver macros de excel de windows con libre office
[12:28] <Chuck_Norris> rsergio: /j #ubuntu-es-cafe
[12:30] <skulltip> the upgrade was painless from the cd
[12:31] <skulltip> unlike the two older machines with onboard video that didn't work
[12:31] <skulltip> hmm no synpatic package manager?  gimp still at 2.6??
[12:31] <fidel> skulltip: you have to install synaptic manually
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  2.8 is out, but not yet in the ubuntu repos
[12:32] <fidel> regarding gimp: wait a bit longer - or use some ppa
[12:32] <catphish> is there a well-known problem with 10.04 server crashing after 200 days?
[12:33] <skulltip> ok is synaptic being phased out? just wondering
[12:33] <fidel> catphish: not that i know of - running several 10.4.x boxes here
[12:33] <moviebun> join #linux
[12:33] <fidel> skulltip: its just not installed per default anymore
[12:33] <catphish> fidel: i run 10.4 for all my production stuff
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  no, it was removed from the live iso, to keep the iso small enought to fit on a cd
[12:33] <mafiaboy> join #linix
[12:33] <catphish> and every 200 days like clockwork all my servers crash
[12:33] <skulltip> cool
[12:33] <catphish> not at the same time, but over the course of a few days
[12:34] <axz> guys where to find Gnome themes for ubuntu?!
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> !eyecandy| axz
[12:34] <fidel> axz: i like webupd8.org for theme-specific news&ppa's
[12:35] <fidel> if that helps
[12:35] <axz> thanks guys
[12:35] <mafiaboy> but for that i think gnome-tweak-tool is needed
[12:35] <rsergio> alguien sabe como como ver macros de excel de windows en ubuntu	
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !es| rsergio
[12:36] <mafiaboy> is there a wway to install icon theme without gnome tweak tool
[12:36] <MrUnagi> how can i run a bash script at boot as root?
[12:36] <ZuLLy> im not so sure about this unity business
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> mafiaboy  maybe add the icons to the hidden folder ~/.icons -- havent tried it, tho
[12:36] <fidel> !notunity
[12:37] <mafiaboy> i tried it but after that what to do :MonkeyDust
[12:37] <fidel> mafiaboy: the pure install doenst need gnome-tweak-tool
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> ZuLLy  you're free to not use it, like myself
[12:37] <MrUnagi> !upstart
[12:37] <mafiaboy> yea but if i need to change icon theme then
[12:38] <mafiaboy> fiedl
[12:38] <mafiaboy> fidel
[12:38] <fidel> mafiaboy: and where is the issue using gnome-tweak-tool?
[12:38] <DeltaHeavy> Anybody else find GNOME 2 fallback mode total trash?
[12:38] <fidel> just curious - or any problems?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  i'm happy with it, thank you
[12:39] <mafiaboy> i used it for quite a long time in gnome 3.2 and it was good .....DeltaHeavy
[12:39] <DeltaHeavy> MonkeyDust: Whenever I open nautalis "Opening blah blah" hangs for like a minute and a half even though I've already went like 8 directories deep, opened a file and started editing it.
[12:39] <DeltaHeavy> And it doesn't seem too smooth
[12:39] <axz> wow gimp 2.8 is damn sexy
[12:39] <fidel> gui's are never sexy ;)
[12:39] <mafiaboy> issue is that i have to install gnome-shell too and i just hate gnome-shell::fidel
[12:40] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: At least in Linux lol
[12:40] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: no - its software..software cant look sexy
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  maybe try to reduce the number of sub-directories, 8 does not sound healthy to me
[12:40] <alankila> did gimp 2.8 get the improved internal representations already, or is it still something for the future? I mean, each channel as 32-bit floating point value
[12:40] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: I found GNOME 2 to be far more usable than GNOME 2 fallback mode
[12:40] <MrUnagi> !runlevel
 gui's are never sexy ;) < photo editing program without GUI?! wow channeling
[12:40] <Duality> wylde, works! thanks :)
[12:41] <DeltaHeavy> MonkeyDust: It's a local version of a website. I don't know how you think 8 sub directories isn't healthy or why it should effect that.
[12:41] <axz> Anyhow guys does anyone know how to move system trys to top bar?!
[12:41] <fidel> axz: talking about the word "sexy" - so replace gui with SOFTWARE ;)
[12:41] <axz> in Gnome shell
[12:41] <axz> oh yeah agree with that fidel
[12:41] <axz> i want to move xchat to top bar
[12:41] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: I'm just saying compared to Windows and Mac Linux is pretty far behind in the world of GUI.
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  you may want to try something else, instead of fallback mode
[12:42] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: thats pretty personal isnt it - and somehow way offtopic aswell ;)
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  i guess your comments are more for #ubuntu-offtopic, as this is the support channel
[12:42] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: I don't know how expressing my dislike of Linux's GUI enviroments is personal lol
[12:43] <MarKsaitis> 12.04 lts server.  samba4 : Depends: python-samba but it is not going to be installed
[12:43] <MarKsaitis> HELP pls
[12:43] <MrUnagi> how do i run a bash script on boot as root?
[12:43] <DeltaHeavy> MonkeyDust: I actually came here to ask how to stop that Nautalis thing originally.
[12:43] <DeltaHeavy> Anybody know?
[12:43] <fidel> for sure - was just trying to get the focus back on the channels main-topic DeltaHeavy
[12:44] <profanephobia> can i configure an SMTP server to accept all incoming messages and just save them to a directory and that is it?
[12:45] <DeltaHeavy> Is there GUI that feels like GNOME 2 or is meant to be a clone of GNOME 2 but runs on GDM3?
[12:45] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: not 1:1 a clone - but ever considered xfce?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> DeltaHeavy  maybe this link helps http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/20-file-managers-for-ubuntu/
[12:45] <ffiene> Someone else with a segfaulting Apache in glibc when SSL is enabled?
[12:46] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: Yeah, I remember hearing about something called cinnominx or something of the sort. Or also something called Trent but the googler has popped up nothing on that one.
[12:46] <ffiene> Ups sorry, Ubuntu 12.04.
[12:47] <Qualia> Help please ! My unity panel is not auto-disappearing
[12:47] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: maybe worth a look: http://www.xfce.org/
[12:47] <Qualia> How can I solve this ?
[12:47] <arya> hi anyone
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Qualia  install MyUnity
[12:48] <Krambiorix> ok, which imbecile created the sticky windows in GNOME??
[12:49] <LjL> Krambiorix: if you have a support question, please express it as such
[12:49] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. How do I add a file to my gnome-shell favorites (as opposed to a program or a folder, which is as easy as dragging their windows into the tab when in the activities overview)?
[12:49] <MarKsaitis> 12.04 lts server.  samba4 : Depends: python-samba but it is not going to be installed
[12:50] <MarKsaitis> this is what happens on apt-get install samba4 on precise
[12:50] <Krambiorix> LjL i don't have a support question, i have a big complaint
[12:50] <LjL> Krambiorix: file a bug then, no use complaining here
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Krambiorix  not here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <Krambiorix> Let's revolt!!
[12:50] <skulltip> when the left bar gets full i take it will autoscroll?
[12:50] <Krambiorix> :D
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Krambiorix  linux IS the revolt
[12:51] <skulltip> first install/upgrade where i find the todo list for ubuntu and now there are really things for me to do  :P
[12:51] <Anderson> Ive googoled, but don't know what to google for. Know how shotwell will take all your pictures and put them in 1 place? Is there a music player/organizer that will do that?
[12:52] <ZuLLy> rythmbox works well for me
[12:52] <skulltip> like java7, codecs..
[12:52] <Qualia> thanks MonkeyDust
[12:53] <Qualia> :D
[12:54] <Anomie21> Whats the easiest way to burn a .SWF onto a CD playable on a DVD player/
[12:54] <Dr_willis> Anomie21,  use a app like devede to convert it to proper format.. and make a burnable iso image
[12:55] <Dr_willis> assuming you can convert a swf to an avi.. arent swf like shockwave games? ;)
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  devede can handle any format, it's in the repos
[12:55] <ffiene> So once again and complete: I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with Zend CE Server and after a2enmod ssl and configuring the ssl-config, the server crashes during Apache restart with apache2[13708]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f2f54435626 sp 00007fff12822a88 error 4 in libc-2.15.so[7f2f54305000+1b3000]. Any idea?
[12:55] <bubuz> hi guys - i need to edit a load of config files with different hosts in them. I dont want to do manually so i want to script it. could I used sed to change the hostname mentioned several times in the config file to a different hostname and save this to a new config file? Using sed I can only get it to create the new config file with the ammended lines - not the entire config file.... any ideas?
[12:56] <ffiene> After a2dismod ssl, the server is working fine after start!
[12:56] <Dr_willis> bubuz,  awk may be a better tool.
[12:56] <figo> haha
[12:57] <Dr_willis> bubuz,  thers also sites with 1000's of sed examples. could be theres some way to make sed print out all the lines. but i dont sed enough.
[12:57] <Anomie21> MonkeyDust: It can't handle .swf by the looks of it
[12:57] <Anomie21> "File doesn't seem to be a video file"
[12:57] <Dr_willis> use some other tool to convert the swf to avi. then devede can handle it.
[12:58] <Dr_willis> http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Convert_SWF_to_AVI_Online_22612062
[12:59] <Dr_willis> brb
[12:59] <Anomie21> Dr_willis: Ta, tried to install handbreak but dont think its in the repos anymore
[12:59] <gulzar> I want to create symlink of ::  /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/Main/  into  /home/gulzar/.idesktop .So that "Main" dir's content are accessible in .idesktop. I used this {{ ls -s /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/Main/ /home/gulzar/.idesktop }} but it creates only a symlink file but contents are not shown. Help
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> gulzar  it's ln -s , not ls -s
[13:00] <gulzar> MonkeyDust: sorry typo error.. i used ln -s . it creates only file but contents are not accessible
[13:01] <ZuLLy> gulzar: how about mount --bind?
[13:01] <ohad_> hello
[13:01] <Threeseas> re: Rosegarden bad sound - upgraded to Precise and booted with teh lowlatency kernel but rosegarden through qsynth sounds like a blown speaker....any tips to fix?
[13:01] <gulzar> ZuLLy: whats that? please explain
[13:01] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. How do I add a file to my gnome-shell favorites (as opposed to a program, which is as easy as dragging the window into the left bar when in the activities overview)?
[13:02] <ohad_> How do I know which operations I should tune in PowerTop?
[13:02] <ZuLLy> gulzar: it binds one directory to another, try mount --bind /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/Main/ /home/gulzar/.idesktop/
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Threeseas  the irc channel #ubuntustudio may be what you need
[13:03] <Psycho_gr> Even though I installed php5-dev, php is still command not found. What am I doing wrong?
[13:03] <gulzar> ZuLLy: nice.. lets try
[13:04] <Pici> Psycho_gr: you need php5-cli
[13:04] <gulzar> ZuLLy: and what about unbinding
[13:04] <gulzar> ZuLLy: only root can do that.. :'(
[13:04] <ZuLLy> gulzar use umount
[13:05] <ZuLLy> gulzar: whoops, i assumed u had admin on the machine
[13:05] <Anomie21> Argh " Compressed SWF format not supported"
[13:05] <GabrieleV> Hello, someone experiencing freezes with 12.04 and Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller ?
[13:05] <gulzar> ZuLLy: i had.. but I want to bind unbind lots of time.. tens of time. so can't use sudo always
[13:06] <gulzar> ZuLLy: symplinks is the easy way
[13:06] <gulzar> ZuLLy: but I am not getting them
[13:07] <Pici> gulzar: What happens when you try to cd into your symlink?
[13:08] <dry_> hi. Ubuntu [11.10/64] can't detect my web cam. I've tried ov51x, but "404 Not Found" error appears. Anyone, plz?
[13:08] <gulzar> Pici: I jsut tried to open with pcmanfm.. and  a pop-up of open-with come up. I want to have contents of My_Scripts/main accessible in .idesktop
[13:09] <Yerushalmi> Does anybody know why, ever since I upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, games like Quadrapassel, Tetravex, and Iagno are missing their menu bars?
[13:10] <Pici> gulzar: Can you open any other symlinked folders?
[13:10] <gulzar> Pici: This is my first time with symlinks.. but using cd shows  [[[    bash: cd: Desktop/Pictures: Too many levels of symbolic links
[13:11] <gulzar> Pici: I opened some icons..  from an icon theme but folders.. none
[13:11] <Pici> gulzar: Is /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/Main/ a symlink?
[13:12] <gulzar> Pici: i used both these and got the same reult.. 1) ln -s Pictures/ Desktop   2) ln -s Pictures Desktop
[13:12] <shinichi_> still having problems booting ubuntu 12.04..,i'm using easyBCD to dual boot, main Os is win7 and ubuntu is installed in an external hdd, i used easyBCD because grub2 seems not to work as i only get black screen, anyway, after booting up, i chose win7 to check if it still works and it does, but when i choose ubuntu next, it loads and then gets stuck at the line "starting cmain()...:" any ideas?
[13:12] <Guest> hello ! i want to use openvz on ubuntu 12.04 - is there a howto or some packages i need to install ?
[13:12] <stefunz> doh .. nickname wrong :D
[13:13] <ZuLLy> gulzar: ln --help shows a -d option for directory linking, but it requires superuser also
[13:13] <Pici> gulzar: It sounds like you're making recursive symlinks.  Remember that you should be using ln -s TARGET LINKNAME
[13:14] <gulzar> Pici: syntax is {{ ln -s <source>  <destination ]] right?
[13:15] <Pici> gulzar: if destination is where you  want the link itself to be, yes. <source> would be the file you're pointing at.
[13:16] <gulzar> Pici: Ok .. I want to symlink contents of  [[ /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/idesk ]] into .idesktop. So what will the command? /idesk contains .lnk files which contains config about icons .. ( to be used by idesk).
[13:17] <gulzar> Pici: */idesk/accesories
[13:18] <Pici> gulzar: ln -s /home/gulzar/My_Scripts/idesk /home/gulzar/.idesktop
[13:18] <gulzar> Pici: fine.. lets see
[13:19] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. How do I add a file to my gnome-shell favorites (as opposed to a program, which is as easy as dragging the window into the left bar when in the activities overview)?
[13:20] <Psycho_gr> Every time I change the directory permissions I have to logout and login to make the changes take effect. Is there a way to avoid that?
[13:20] <gulzar> Pici: it worked.. but it is showing folder.. and when clicking on it .. it shows files.. BUT i want to directly show files :)
[13:20] <chrisinfo21> bonjour a vous
[13:20] <gulzar> Pici: done.. using *
[13:21] <gulzar> Pici: Thank you
[13:21] <OerHeks> erf    |
[13:21] <szal> ?
[13:22] <mafiaboy> i have core 2 duo and wanna know if it has graphic card ......so
[13:22] <mafiaboy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/979829/
[13:22] <szal> if it didn't have one, how would you be able to see anything?
[13:23] <willwork4foo> Hi all - anyone here good with bash scripting? I've got an issue - I'm trying to move a load of files (170+ files) with different extensions (.mkv, .avi, .mp4) into directories with the same names as the file (without the extension)
[13:23] <gulzar> Pici: one more thing... symlinks are created but what about deleting them from a script. I run a script which creates symlink in .idesktop from My_Scrips/idesk. But to delete those symlinks when 2nd script is run. So which method to go dor?
[13:24] <gulzar> Pici: Once again.. Thank you. You eased my work 100x
[13:25] <Fraz> hey
[13:25] <xskydevilx> How would I upgrade the kernel on 11.04 easily to the newest one available?
[13:25] <Fraz> could someone help me out with my linux installation? i get a black screen when i boot
[13:25] <ZuLLy> mafiaboy: lspci | grep Display
[13:25] <Fraz> the pc went off mid-upgrade last night
[13:25] <Abhijit> willwork4foo, mv -R /fromdirectory /todirectory   ??
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| Fraz
[13:25] <gulzar> Fraz: install boot-manager and change the resolution.
[13:26] <tyler_d> how do you turn off NetworkManager without it coming back up automagically in 12.04 64 please?
[13:26] <charly_> Hi all. Tell me how to turn on the printer color profile icm, which is the directory usr / share / color / icc. Xubuntu 12.04
[13:26] <Fraz> it was fine before
[13:26] <Abhijit> tyler_d, killall networkmanager
[13:26] <gulzar> Fraz: sorry.. its startup manager
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> tyler_d  remove it from the startup applications
[13:26] <Fraz> as i said, the computer went off mid upgrade
[13:26] <xskydevilx> How would I upgrade the kernel on 11.04 easily to the newest one available? Like the new 3.x ones?
[13:27] <gulzar> Fraz: its ok.. sometimes it happens try startup-manager. It is the first thing I install and correct that black screen
[13:27] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: how do you stop it without removing it from startup please?
[13:27] <Abhijit> tyler_d, killall networkmanager
[13:27] <Mion> xskydevilx: backports
[13:27] <tyler_d> Abhijit: and it should say something such as sudo killall NetworkManager... but then it immediately starts up again
[13:27] <Abhijit> tyler_d, sudo killall networkmanager
[13:28] <IntuitiveNipple> willwork4foo: Use a loop and get the name of the directory using NEWDIR=$(basename ${FILENAME%*.})
[13:28] <Fraz> ok thanks
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> tyler_d  try pkill networkmanager, but if you don't want it to come back, you have to remove it from startup application
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> s
[13:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: Is that Dan?
[13:28] <xskydevilx> Mion, I beg your pardon?
[13:28] <Fraz> not that im aware of:P
[13:29] <Mion> xskydevilx: check the backports repo?
[13:29] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: no joy, still comes back up; and that is accurate, I do want it to come back on restart.
[13:29] <IntuitiveNipple> OK ... I know a 'Fraz' that is always having Ubuntu problems  :p
[13:29] <Fraz> lol
[13:29] <Fraz> now you know 2:P
[13:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: Uhoh!
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> tyler_d  have you removed it from startup apps?
[13:29] <xskydevilx> Mion, And how would I do that?
[13:30] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: I just outlined that I don't want it removed from startup apps, I simply want to know how to stop it when required
[13:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: Sounds like, at start-up you need to hold the Shift key down to get to the GRUB bootloader menu, and try one of the recovery kernels
[13:30] <tyler_d> :p
[13:30] <Abhijit> MonkeyDust, how will he get it back on startup if he removes it from startup?
[13:30] <Mion> xskydevilx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports etc
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> tyler_d  Abhijit not sure what you want: you want it to come back, but you don't want it to come back
[13:31] <xskydevilx> Mion, No luck so far. Can't I just get a generic kernel and upgrade it manually?
[13:32] <Abhijit> MonkeyDust, he want it bak ON startup
[13:32] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: when I kill hte proc from term, it starts back up, I do not want that.
[13:32] <Anomie21> ikonia: 2 hours later, still estimating size :(
[13:32] <Anomie21> *estimating time#
[13:32] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: when I initially start the machine, I do want it back
[13:32] <Flecks> http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/05/first-ea-games-arrive-in-the-ubuntu-software-center/ << when i click that orange button - getting error: Could not find package 'tiberiumalliances'.
[13:33] <IntuitiveNipple> xskydevilx: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[13:33] <Mion> xskydevilx: you can but that is sort of a mess, and if you don't know how to configure and compile a kernel then you will probably fail
[13:33] <IntuitiveNipple> xskydevilx: I'm testing mainline 3.4-rc4 with Precise
[13:34] <as001> hi my usb modem hspa data card for my mobile internet does not work in 12.04 and it worked in 11.10 without problems. Can you help me with this issue ?
[13:34] <xskydevilx> IntuitiveNipple, So, in a nutshell, I would just download stuff from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and upgrade it for Natty.
[13:35] <as001> i can see it in lsusb as: Bus 001 Device 004:  ID 1bbb:000 T & A Mobile Phones
[13:35] <as001> but I can't see it under Network Connections and I can't configure anything
[13:36] <tyler_d> does anyone know how to stop the NetworkManager from a terminal please?
[13:36] <xskydevilx> IntuitiveNipple, But, I mean, um.. A precise kernel would technically work on Natty, wouldn't it?
[13:37] <boobear> galaxy y
[13:37] <boobear> pro
[13:37] <szal> boobear: and?
[13:39] <chiliblue> I am create a boot floppy on my laptop using a usb floppy drive. kernel shows it as /dev/sdb but when I try to cat the images to sdb I get a permission error, I am using sudo
[13:39] <chiliblue> ?
[13:40] <chiliblue> does ubuntu not automount floopy drives these days?
[13:40] <xskydevilx> Mion, Well I don't have any proprietary stuff installed or anything like that so it should be relatively easy to install it using kernel ppa mainline, right?
[13:40] <Mion> sure
[13:42] <as001> I tried to edit /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules and to add ATTRS line for device but it does not work still. I tried to copy line from 11.10 where it works but it does not work on 12.04
[13:42] <chiliblue> why can't I cat image.img > /dev/sdb?
[13:42] <boobear> \msg acidfrost hi
[13:43] <xskydevilx> Mion, Also, what kind of graphics card are you using?
[13:43] <auronandace> chiliblue: what image? 11.10 upwards should work
[13:43] <auronandace> chiliblue: but it needs to be done in a root terminal
[13:44] <Mion> xskydevilx: oc'ed gxt460
[13:44] <chiliblue> auronandace, how would I ge a root terminal
[13:44] <as001> I thought more devices will work in 12.04 and it looks like some devices which worked on 11.10 does not work on 12.04...
[13:44] <chiliblue> it is 10.10 the imgis of a dos6.22 boot disc
[13:45] <chiliblue> auronandace, 11.10 sorry typo
[13:45] <auronandace> chiliblue: sudo -i
[13:45] <auronandace> chiliblue: please be careful
[13:45] <xskydevilx> Mion, And there's no flickering or anything? I have a gtx 690, and it seemed to be unstable as hell on Precise.
[13:45] <Mion> works fine
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  ouch, sudo -i is a no-no in this channel
[13:46] <Mion> pft, sudo -i is just fine
[13:46] <ph071> hi
[13:46] <Mion> just C-d then done
[13:46] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: i thought sudo su is wrong, sudo -i is proper
[13:46] <ph071> i am looking for where bash stores error prompts
[13:47] <chiliblue> auronandace, well it got me what I needed so no complaints here
[13:47] <ph071> i want to modifiy something in the prompt
[13:47] <xskydevilx> Also I remember EA releasing something in the Software Centre. Will that also be available for older releases like Natty?
[13:47] <chiliblue> auronandace, I am carefull, I come from days before all this sudo stuff.
[13:48] <ph071> that when i run a command and if it cant find it instead of prompting me that there is no command i want it to do something else
[13:48] <Mion> xskydevilx: those two games are just silly browser/js stuff anyway so you can easily grab them by hand
[13:48] <auronandace> chiliblue: it is very rare to need a root terminal
[13:48] <vp18> help having trouble with conky
[13:48] <xskydevilx> Well that is silly.
[13:48] <Mion> xskydevilx: indeed
[13:49] <Mion> xskydevilx: it's really just a publicity stunt by EA
[13:49] <xskydevilx> Mion, Could be.
[13:49] <Mion> they didn't really do _anything_, they just wrapped them in a .deb
[13:49] <ph071> does anyone have knowleage on how i might find this
[13:49] <xskydevilx> Mion, Granted if it were my favourite EA game "The Sims 3", that would really be something. But a shortcut to a browser game? Come on..
[13:50] <Pici> !ot
[13:50] <dead_rose> centerim test
[13:50] <dead_rose> NICK dead_rose
[13:50] <Yerushalmi> Does anybody know why, ever since I upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, games like Quadrapassel, Tetravex, and Iagno are missing their menu bars?
[13:50] <auronandace> !test | dead_rose
[13:51] <dead_rose> cheers :D
[13:51] <boobear> noo
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Yerushalmi,  the mens are not embeded in the top panel?
[13:52] <POQDavid> anyone knows how to restore grub from the grub rescue mode?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> normally use grub-install command with the proper options
[13:53] <Flecks> http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/05/first-ea-games-arrive-in-the-ubuntu-software-center/ << when i click that orange button - getting error: Could not find package 'tiberiumalliances'.
[13:53] <POQDavid> idk wont work
[13:53] <mykhas> hi all. can I get a help here?
[13:53] <szal> !ask | mykhas
[13:53] <Yerushalmi> Dr_willis: Nope, they're just missing. It's very strange.
[13:53] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: i did it didn't work
[13:53] <Yerushalmi> Dr_willis: And Quadrapassel is formatted oddly. The playing area of the game only takes up a small subsection of where it's supposed to.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> Yerushalmi,  could be those games dont play nicely with the global menu. theres some way to disable it on a per app basis. Saw mention of that at the webupd8 blog site.
[13:54] <Yerushalmi> Dr_willis: I'm using gnome-shell. No global menu (thank god).
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Yerushalmi,  you are on your own then i guess..
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Yerushalmi,  try a minimal window manager like icewm, and see if theres issues with the games in it.
[13:55] <gaston_> how can i install kernel 3.2.6 ?
[13:55] <Yerushalmi> Dr_willis: Hehe, okay, I'll look into it.
[13:55] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: do i have to do some thing so that command work?
[13:55] <Dr_willis> POQDavid,  i normally just am sure to give it the right options for where root and boot is at..
[13:56] <gaston_> how can i install kernel 3.2.6 ?
[13:56] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: idk how to do that
[13:56] <szal> !repeat | gaston_
[13:56] <szal> !details | gaston_
[13:56] <pungi-man> gaston_, Update ur computer by using update-manager
[13:56] <gaston_> szal, sorry i'm a bit stressed, but that's no excuse
[13:56] <auronandace> gaston_: you can use a ppa but we can't support you if it goes wrong
[13:57] <Dr_willis> POQDavid,  use grub-install --help to see wht options it can take.
[13:57] <xskydevilx> Alright folks, I just upgraded to the new 3.5.5 kernel on Natty. The problem is..
[13:57] <chiliblue> ok not entirely ubuntu related but, anyone know of a dos boot floppy image that supports fat32?
[13:57] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: it says there is no such a command
[13:57] <xskydevilx> I get to the login screen, and when I press ENTER it turns off the monitor,
[13:57] <Dr_willis> chiliblue,  dr-dos or was it freedos  may have it.
[13:57] <xskydevilx> after presumably changing the resolution.
[13:57] <gaston_> pungi-man, auronandace thanks, i'll try that
[13:57] <mykhas> so, I install on my Acer Aspire 5368 Ubuntu 12.10, and I have only 2 default display solutions, 1024x768 as biggest, and I need 1368x768. how can I fix it? I have tried to create and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but both times I should need to recover my system
[13:58] <Dr_willis> POQDavid,  how were you runnin grub-install befor then?
[13:58] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: never did
[13:58] <POQDavid> POQDavid: but
[13:58] <xskydevilx> Do I need to install some proprietary nonsense now?
[13:58] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: it's my first time and i did it in grub rescue mode?
[13:59] <POQDavid> sorry ? was a typos
[13:59] <Dr_willis> POQDavid,  you mean from the grub 'shell' ?
[13:59] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: yes
[14:00] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: when burg fails to load
[14:00] <DX099> hello, how do I launch an executable from an ntfs partition ? I can't set X bit to it... would a symlink do the trick ?
[14:00] <catphish> DX099: a symlink certainly won't
[14:00] <xskydevilx> How about this people: If I run the NVIDIA installer now, would it compile it or whatever it's called itself for all of my kernel versions?
[14:00] <auronandace> POQDavid: why are you using a burg ppa?
[14:00] <engammalsko> How do I check if a port is open or nor? "telnet 25"?
[14:01] <Abhijit> DX099, chmod +x file
[14:01] <catphish> i'm not sure how the executable bit is determined on ntf
[14:01] <catphish> *ntfs
[14:01] <Abhijit> DX099, /file
[14:01] <POQDavid> auronandace: i did at first but when wanted to remove it got all mess up
[14:01] <catphish> Abhijit: he said he can't
[14:01] <Dr_willis> POQDavid,  burg? Eww.  never messed with burg.
[14:01] <Abhijit> DX099, have you tried the chmod before?
[14:01] <Abhijit> engammalsko, nmap?
[14:01] <catphish> read his question
[14:01] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: i get it now
[14:01] <DX099> Abhijit, I already tried chmod 755, it doesn't work. I think it's because the file is on NTFS partition
[14:02] <POQDavid> Dr_willis: i am new on linux
[14:02] <catphish> it may have been mounted noexec
[14:02] <catphish> or is the x bit not setting?
[14:02] <POQDavid> super_grub_disk can help?
[14:02] <Abhijit> DX099, maybe try chmod +x file ??
[14:02] <DX099> Abhijit, it's exactly the same thing
[14:03] <POQDavid> ok i gtg
[14:03] <POQDavid> thank
[14:04] <Dr_willis> New to linux - and digging into Burg = not good idea
[14:05] <Dr_willis> brb
[14:05] <xskydevilx> HOw do I exit this X server NVIDIA keeps bitching about?
[14:06] <Hariezg> how do I get gmusicbrowser plugins (gstreamer)
[14:06] <Jim1> Why is Fedora so much faster than Ubuntu ?
[14:07] <_ruben> why do pigs fly?
[14:07] <panshul> hello everyone
[14:07] <xskydevilx> How do I exit this X server NVIDIA keeps bitching about?
[14:07] <Dr_willis> Jim1,  citation/benchmarks/metrics needed..
[14:07] <Dr_willis> xskydevilx,  you trying to install the nvidia .run drivers file?
[14:07] <Hariezg> how do I get gmusicbrowser plugins (gstreamer) <<help>>
[14:07] <xskydevilx> Dr_willis, Yes.
[14:08] <railsraider> i've setup arno-iptables with debconf-set-selections answerfile.cfg and then apt-get install arno-iptables-firewall -q -y
[14:09] <railsraider> i can see the answer file if i do debconf-get-selections
[14:09] <railsraider> | grep arno
[14:09] <panshul> I am facing a problem with i3 since today morning... i am not able to move my focused container to another workspace... sometimes it does but if I move from workspace 2 to workspace 4 then i cannot send it back to 2 but i can send it to 8... and on pressing lower numbers it just prints the character on screen like it just ignores the mod key.. please help
[14:09] <railsraider> setup run fine but  i don't see the options in the firewall.conf file
[14:10] <railsraider> what am i doing wrong?
[14:10] <sw> Hi, if I want to delete a GPG key from a computer, but keep it safe so that I can use it on a new computer, what should I do?
[14:10] <xskydevilx> Dr_willis, Any ideas?
[14:10] <Anomie21> Anyone have a stable alternative to pitivi?
[14:11] <auronandace> Anomie21: i like openshot
[14:11] <Anomie21> auronandace: ty
[14:11] <bc``> hi
[14:11] <panshul> anyone there who can help me?
[14:12] <Psycho_gr> I did sudo apt-get install ruby which installed ruby 1.8, then I realized I need ruby 1.9.1 So then I did sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.1, and sudo apt-get remove ruby. How do I make the system link ruby to ruby1.9.1? If I execute ruby nothing happens, only ruby1.9.1 works....
[14:12] <bc``> anyone have suggestions on media streaming apps? I am looking for one to stream music specifically, but if you know any that allow the streaming of videos-- that's a plus I won't turn down! :D
[14:12] <Hariezg> how do I get gmusicbrowser plugins (gstreamer)
[14:12] <mykhas> I installed on my Acer Aspire 5368 Ubuntu 12.10, and I have only 2 default display solutions, 1024x768 as biggest, and I need 1368x768. how can I fix it? I have tried to create and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but both times I should need to recover my system
[14:13] <sw> Hi, if I want to delete a GPG key from a computer, but keep it safe so that I can use it on a new computer, what should I do?
[14:13] <Resistance> sw: export it completely to external media, private key and all, then remove it from your system's GPG keys?
[14:13] <auronandace> Hariezg: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[14:13] <sw> Resistance: What's the correct export command?
[14:14] <Hariezg> what applications are similar disk defragment in linux?
[14:14] <Resistance> sw: if you have a gui, i think you can do it from that...
[14:14] <sw> Resistance: Terminal
[14:14]  * Resistance needs to pull up his Precise VM either way
[14:14] <Resistance> sw: give me a few, then
[14:14] <Resistance> i'll have to look that one up
[14:14] <Hariezg> @auronandace thanks bro!
[14:14] <sw> Resistance: I'll check the manpage for the export command then, don't worry and thanks for your tip
[14:14] <Resistance> yep
[14:15] <linux> my ubuntu centre is not working
[14:16] <Marzata> fb2 reader in ubuntu?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> linux  "not working"?
[14:16] <auronandace> Hariezg: defragmentation isn't much of an issue in linux, you use fsck
[14:16] <Guest11945> i just installed kubuntu
[14:16] <Guest11945> and when i restart after the installation
[14:16] <Guest11945> i get a blinking black screen
[14:16] <llutz> Hariezg: e4defrag
[14:17] <sw> Guest11945: #kubuntu
[14:17] <nyker> does the iphone 4S works in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:17] <linux> monkeydust: means whenever i try to install something it shows check your internet connection o
[14:17] <Marzata> Guest11945: install  Xubuntu
[14:17] <dzam> Hi folks! I'm using a Dell Vostro V130 laptop which was shipped with Ubuntu 10.04. For some reason, the update mamanger does not offer me the choice to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 even though LTS upgrades are allowed in software sources. Any idea?
[14:17] <sw> !iphone > nyker
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> linux  maybe you must sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[14:17] <sw> !upgrade > dzam
[14:17] <sw> dzam: have a look at the info. that ubottu sent to you
[14:17] <Hariezg> @auronandace What side effects if I use fsck in terminal
[14:18] <L3top> I could use help correctly mapping my laptop volume controls to alsa. I get a hud for volume up volume down, but they do not affect any of the volumes in alsa mixer as near as I can tell. Mute doesnt have an affect, but if I mute  the outputs in alsamixer, it changes colors indicating that it is muted.
[14:18] <Anomie21> auronandace: jesus, openshot is infinitely better than pitivi
[14:18] <rebourn> how do I find out that is occupying port 81
[14:18] <auronandace> Hariezg: sorry i don't understand
[14:18] <rebourn> *what
[14:18] <Guest11945> sw: i thought maybe it wasn't Kubntu specific, so i asked here
[14:18] <llutz> rebourn: sudo lsof -i :81
[14:18] <auronandace> Anomie21: written in python too
[14:19] <rebourn> llutz nothing :S
[14:19] <linux> how to completely remove any software
[14:20] <Resistance> linux:  define "completely remove"
[14:20] <Resistance> linux:  you mean remove the software and its configs?
[14:20] <llutz> Resistance: so why do you think something occupies that port?
[14:20] <IntuitiveNipple> apt-get --purge remove <package-name>
[14:20] <Resistance> llutz:  mishighlight ;P
[14:20] <JaceAlvejetti> apt-get purge (package)
[14:21] <llutz> rebourn: ^^^ sry Resistance
[14:21] <samuel76> running latest lubuntu, i'm trying to figure out how can i amplify volume after all the volume settings are maxed out?
[14:21] <Resistance> llutz:  no problem :)
[14:21] <Hariezg> @auronandace after I wrote "fsck" it says the following:
[14:21] <Hariezg> WARNING! The file system has been installed. If you continue your *** WILL ***
[14:21] <Hariezg> can cause severe damage in the file system.
[14:21] <Hariezg> What should I do?
[14:21] <FloodBot1> Hariezg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> samuel76  in a terminal, run alsamixer
[14:21] <dzam> sw, thanks, I just take a look, but I'm affraid this did not solve my issue :|
[14:21] <auronandace> Hariezg: what filesystem?
[14:21] <dzam> I did ran many times the "Verify updates" from the update manager tool, and it finds nothing.
[14:22] <linux> for eg, when i remove vlc player from ubuntu software centre it get removed. But when try to install it again it does not download from internet it just directly install. It mean the package does not remove.
[14:22] <rebourn> llutz: I started a pbxware server on vbox running gentoo it should open up a config page on localhost:81 through a web server
[14:22] <L3top> Hariezg: you cannot use fsck on a mounted filesystem
[14:22] <samuel76> MonkeyDust: thanks. it looks like all the settings are maxed out there as well
[14:22] <Hariezg> @auronandace /dev/sda1
[14:22] <JaceAlvejetti> linux, after removing try apt-get autoclean
[14:22] <llutz> rebourn: and? check logs why it didn't work
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> samuel76  i understand you want 11 on a scale of 10?
[14:22] <auronandace> Hariezg: thats the partition, what filesystem
[14:23] <linux> ok jacealvejetti
[14:23] <llutz> Hariezg: read "man fsck" and never try to fsck a mounted filesystem. a
[14:23] <Hariezg> @auronandace ext4 maybe
[14:23] <L3top> Hariezg: if you are attempting to run this on your native drive, you will need to run it from a live disk, or set the native system check to do so automatically on boot
[14:23] <rebourn> llutz: im thinking something from ubuntu is holding up port 81 so I cant accses the config page
[14:23]  * Resistance agrees with llutz
[14:23] <samuel76> MonkeyDust: it seems it would be trivial to amplify audio (allowing clipping)
[14:23] <Duality> i've got a pc with ubuntu server, and three harddrives in it, is there software that could make from those three one big one?
[14:23] <auronandace> Hariezg: also look at what L3top said
[14:23] <Resistance> Hariezg:  go get a LiveCD and fsck, never try to fsck a *mounted, running, active* filesystem
[14:23] <Jim1> Newsflash : Linus Torvalds exposed : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxrRlX4zroY
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> Duality  i guess RAID is what you want
[14:23] <samuel76> MonkeyDust: i mean technically by programming
[14:24] <Resistance> Jim1: please do not spam the channel.
[14:24] <Duality> MonkeyDust, raid?
[14:24] <Hariezg> @L3top right.. I understand thanks
[14:24] <llutz> rebourn: as lsof showed you, theres nothing listening. check iptables for blocking rules
[14:24] <dzam> so, anything I should check to make sure the upgrade notice will appear on my 10.04 Ubuntu (dell shipped version) ??
[14:24] <rebourn> way out of my level of linux knowledge
[14:24] <xskydevilx> Mion: I have no idea how, but it seems I have upgraded the kernel to 3.5.5 and installed the proprietary drivers.
[14:25] <what_if> Anyone here have Ubuntu on an Intel-based Mac / Mac Pro ? Is this a good / bad idea ?
[14:25] <rebourn> i was hoping it was something simple
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> Duality  "RAID is a method of using multiple hard drives to act as one."
[14:25] <linux> from which language ubuntu is made?
[14:25] <Resistance> rebourn:  sudo iptables -L -v
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> !raid| Duality
[14:25] <Duality> MonkeyDust, doesn't that require hardware ?
[14:25] <Resistance> rebourn:  if you can, pastebin the output
[14:25] <Resistance> (might want to look at !pastebinit)
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> Duality  it requires multiple harddrives
[14:25] <samuel76> MonkeyDust: the problem is that my laptop speakers are very quiet even by default. then if the source (like movie) is quiet as well, there is a problem
[14:25] <Mion> Duality: software raid or LVM does not require special hardware
[14:26] <L3top> Hariezg: if you sudo touch /forcefsck; sudo reboot          it will run automatically
[14:26] <Duality> Mion, thanks! :)
[14:26] <Mion> Duality: if you want to access the disks from windows though, then you will have to use fakeraid or real hw raid
[14:26] <linux> any parental control software ?
[14:26] <Hariezg> @L3top I will try it
[14:26] <Anomie21> auronandace: Slideshow created and exported. I wish you were here when I first asked for the best slideshow creator :P
[14:26] <rebourn> Resistance: http://pastebin.com/1QYECQB6
[14:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Duality: Create either a RAID0 stripe using mdadm or create an LVM volume Group containing 3 physical volumes
[14:26] <Anomie21> been at this for 4 hours
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> samuel76  i sometimes connect eternal speakers, no idea how to fix it through programming
[14:26] <auronandace> !yay | Anomie21
[14:27] <auronandace> !info nanny | linux
[14:27] <obscurant1st> Hello guys I am using 12.04 and there is no power off/shutdown button on my panel after I installed gnome shell. But pressing alt is showing the power off.
[14:27] <samuel76> MonkeyDust: to fix it through programmin would be simply to multiply a signed sample by a constant and allow clipping
[14:27] <obscurant1st> Can someone please let me know how can I fix it?
[14:27] <llutz> rebourn: but you try to access localhost:81 from inside the vm, where pbxware (whatever that is) runs? not from the host-system
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> !info nanny | linux
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> auronandace  was faster :)
[14:27] <xskydevilx> What does "Sync to VBlank" mean?
[14:28] <rebourn> llutz i try localhost:81 from ubuntu (base system) not inside the pbxware
[14:28] <llutz> rebourn: how should that work? localhost is local host, not guest
[14:28] <IntuitiveNipple> xskydevilx: it prevents display tearing at higher resolutions
[14:29] <llutz> rebourn: you have to use the vms external ip
[14:29] <rebourn> local host meaning my local_IPadress:81
[14:29] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[14:29] <xskydevilx> IntuitiveNipple, And therefore can limit FPS, right?
[14:29] <rebourn> llutz how do i find out the external IP?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> rebourn  is that ipv6?
[14:29] <llutz> rebourn: inside vm, ifconfig
[14:29] <IntuitiveNipple> rebourn: localhost means the IP address 127.0.0.1 - it is ONLY accessible from the SAME HOST
[14:29] <rebourn> ipconfig or ifconfig
[14:30] <llutz> rebourn: and if you need to access the vm from the host-system, you should use bridged-networking for the guest
[14:30] <rebourn> IntuitiveNipple: bad choice of words, I ment the local IP on the router
[14:31] <linux> i want to set up my  own webserver, but i dont have static IP what should i do?
[14:31] <obscurant1st> linux: dyndns?
[14:32] <gaston_> I tried updating via update manager, but 3.2.6 isn't there, i need to dl and build it, right?
[14:32] <gaston_> ?
[14:32] <llutz> linux: dyndns/no-ip account + portforwarding
[14:32] <IntuitiveNipple> rebourn: so something like http://192.168.0.10:81  ?
[14:32] <linux> what is dyndns?
[14:32] <obscurant1st> linux: checkout their website
[14:32] <auronandace> gaston_: or use a ppa, which we can't support if it goes wrong
[14:32] <llutz> linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS
[14:32] <linux> portforwarding from router IP?
[14:33] <obscurant1st> linux: portforwarding.com
[14:33] <rebourn> IntuitiveNipple: yes something like that, llutz: Ifconfig is showing the vms int address as 10.0.2.15 but also doesnt work
[14:33] <llutz> rebourn: inside vm "sudo lsof -i :81"
[14:33] <linux> obscrantlst: ok
[14:34] <llutz> rebourn: can you even ping 10.0.2.15 from the host-system?
[14:34] <obscurant1st> sorry linux: http://portforward.com/
[14:34] <drcode> hi all
[14:34] <IntuitiveNipple> rebourn: If you're trying to access the virtual machine from a machine other than the host, you'll need to add a static route your network router or each device that needs to access it, something like ip route add 10.0.2.0/24 via IP.OF.HOST.OF.VM
[14:34] <drcode> I have unbunt 10.04 server insode vmware esx, how can I install vmtools?
[14:34] <Anomie21> When I export it as a DVD it makes the file extension .DVD
[14:35] <nicol> hi, every one
[14:35] <Anomie21> How do I make that playable on a DVD player? cant find via google
[14:35] <obscurant1st> Anomie21: rip that dvd
[14:35] <IntuitiveNipple> rebourn: you may also need to ensure that ipv4_forwarding has been enabled on the HOST
[14:35] <Anomie21> Ah devede, found it :)
[14:35] <obscurant1st> Anomie21: or write the image onto a dvd
[14:35] <linux> obscurantlsl: ok i got that
[14:35] <obscurant1st> :)
[14:35] <nicol> :)
[14:37] <rebourn> llutz: no ping response, IntuitiveNipple: Its the same machine, ubuntu core system, gentoo in VM
[14:37] <chiliblue> how to I get out og a root terminal again?
[14:37] <obscurant1st> so anyone, what to do if the panel has no shutdown button?
[14:37] <jrib> !sudo | chiliblue
[14:37] <obscurant1st> chiliblue: exit
[14:37] <llutz> rebourn: do you use bridged-networking for the guest?
[14:37] <jrib> chiliblue: sorry, I misread your question.  See obscurant1st's response
[14:37] <rebourn> llutz im not sure
[14:38] <IntuitiveNipple> rebourn: Is there a route to the VM on the host (ip route show) ?
[14:38] <llutz> rebourn: check it
[14:38] <chiliblue> obscurant1st, ok, thought it might be more interesting than that
[14:38] <rebourn> llutz: sorry, how
[14:38] <obscurant1st> chiliblue: ;)
[14:38] <LuUser> hey all i'm running lubuntu 12.04...i set up pgp keys in passwords and keys (seahorse) but how do i encrypt/decrypt messages?  when i right click on a text file i dont see the encryption options
[14:38] <llutz> rebourn: start "VirtualBox" and check the vm config
[14:38] <theadmin> obscurant1st: If you're running gnome-shell, then the only sane way for shutdown I know is via GDM, that is, log out and... well
[14:39] <llutz> IntuitiveNipple: that's not needed if vbox is configured to use bridged-networking (vmnet does all that)
[14:39] <obscurant1st> theadmin: well, I can power ff if I press alt without logging out
[14:39] <rebourn> llutz: NAT is chosen, bridged adapter is an option if that is what you mean
[14:39] <IntuitiveNipple> llutz: ahh ok .... rebourn: brctl show
[14:40] <llutz> vboxnetdrv, sry
[14:40] <obscurant1st> theadmin: But I would like to know if there is anyway to change that suspend to power off. As of now, "suspend" changes to power off if I press alt
[14:40] <llutz> rebourn: use bridged
[14:40] <wookienz> guys need some help with an upstart job. I have created a script and placed it in /etc/init/ however it doesnt run on boot. Infact even when booted and trying to TAB autocomplete in the /etc/init dir it doesnt see it.
[14:40] <solsTiCe> hi. It seems I can't resize the icons of the unity launcher in 12.04. is it because it considers that every screen with 1024x768 reso must be a touch screen and don't need icon resizing ??
[14:40] <wookienz> do i need to update anything after placing it there?
[14:40] <theadmin> obscurant1st: I see, uh, that's a rather awkward key combo. Anyway, you can create a launcher for something like this: dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop
[14:41] <rebourn> llutz: promiscous mode: allow all?
[14:41] <theadmin> obscurant1st: Well... That's the best I can suggest
[14:41] <rebourn> llutz: or leave on deny
[14:41] <llutz> rebourn: whats default? use it
[14:41] <obscurant1st> theadmin: oh ok! No problem then. Pressing alt is better for me! :) Anyway thanks mate!
[14:41] <terry_> wookienz: chmod +x new-script   ?
[14:41] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: The file ends ".conf" and has mode 644 ?
[14:42] <theadmin> obscurant1st: No problem... Gnome3 is weird in some parts
[14:42] <terry_> wookienz: ls -l  new-script #see if it has executable bit enabled.
[14:42] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, yes. noone of the other scripts have +x eabled
[14:42] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: does it include "start on runlevel [2345]"
[14:43] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: that's correct - upstart scripts do not require +x
[14:43] <obscurant1st> theadmin: I liked it actually. Its better for my use! Its a little bit more eyecandy. :P
[14:43] <wookienz> terry_, ls -l shows the script
[14:43] <terry_> show me
[14:43] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: pastebin us the ls -l
[14:43] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, "start on started network-manager"
[14:44] <rebourn> llutz: default was deny, rebooting server it will take a minute
[14:44] <llutz> rebourn: where does it ask this? what version of vbox are you using?  4.0.16 only has the option to choose a interface to be bridged, the adaptor-type and mac-addr
[14:44] <llutz> the interface*
[14:44] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, http://paste.ubuntu.com/979951/
[14:44] <rebourn> llutz: 4.1.12
[14:45] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[14:45] <llutz> rebourn: too new for me :)
[14:45] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, the upstart job - http://paste.ubuntu.com/979954/
[14:46] <Oprtz> hi all
[14:46] <Oprtz> ! help, i lose all hope to install the f..k intel wifi driver 3945
[14:46] <rebourn> llutz: you are a god!
[14:46] <llutz> rebourn: nope, i DO exist
[14:47] <rebourn> llutz: a brother atheist :) thanks for the help, works like a charm
[14:47] <llutz> rebourn:  welcome
[14:47] <djk> Question: What is the reasoning for locking how small or big the Unity Launcher icon can be?
[14:48] <Oprtz> llutz:  can u tell me how to install Intel Wifi driver 3945 ? it drops wifi after 5 to 10 minute
[14:48] <Oprtz> and i am on latest 3.3 kernal
[14:48] <auronandace> Oprtz: you don't need to install intel wireless drivers
[14:48] <Dr_willis> djk, locking? you can change the size of the left hand panel icons..
[14:48] <Oprtz> auronandace:  then what to install?
[14:48] <obscurant1st> Oprtz: Sure you've checked your router?
[14:48] <Oprtz> obscurant1st:  what to check Sir?
[14:49] <djk> Dr_willis: not below or above preset limits
[14:49] <auronandace> Oprtz: you don't need to install anything, they are there by default
[14:49] <Dr_willis> djk,  so.. you want to go down to zero?
[14:49] <obscurant1st> Try connecting some other system to the router your're using. It could be the problem of your router
[14:49] <djk> not zero but it would be nice to go to 8
[14:49] <Dr_willis> would a negative size go to the other side of the screen. ;)
[14:50] <terry_> wookienz: pastebinit davmail.conf
[14:50] <Dr_willis> 8 would be about the size of the little arrow i see on my buttons. :)
[14:50] <wookienz> terry_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/979954/
[14:51] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: It looks okay... how about replacing the exec line with a write to a log file so you know if the upstart job is being started?
[14:51] <djk> well all I'm say is it should be permitted. 32 is huge on my old laptop 1024x768
[14:51] <Oprtz> guy i am back now, now on ethernet bcz wifi discnects
[14:51] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: also, Do you really need to be putting the job into the background with the &
[14:51] <Oprtz> so how to check router for wifi problem ?
[14:51] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, good idea. "exec echo >> /home/x/text" ?
[14:52] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: I don't see any other jobs doing that bg thing
[14:52] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, it is a headless server so need to display it to me
[14:52] <obscurant1st> Oprtz: try connecting some other system to the router and check if the problem persists!
[14:52] <wookienz> unless i dont understand bg
[14:53] <Oprtz> obscurant1st:  i check my andriod mobile, windows XP machine both run fine except ubuntu machine :(
[14:53] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: yes to the echo. I don't see any other upstart scripts using "&" on their exec lines
[14:53] <cuthbert> enjoying with 12.04
[14:53] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, ok. it is funny my other two scripts i have written show up when i TAB for auto complete behind sudo service, but not this one
[14:53] <wookienz> wierd
[14:53] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: I agree :s
[14:54] <Dr_willis> or the bash completion has some sort of cache so the new ones are not showing up yet.
[14:54] <Sidewinder> !yay > cuthbert
[14:54] <obscurant1st> Oprtz: I cannot be any further help then!
[14:54] <djk> Dr_willis: so my question what is the reasoning for limiting it to such high value. Flexibility is one the key benefits of Linux. restricted limits seem counter to it. recommended/guidance values sure but prohibiting?
[14:54] <linux> i cant do portforwarding when after filling username and password it ask agian and again
[14:54] <Oprtz> obscurant1st:  thanks mate , will ask in room again :)
[14:54] <cuthbert> ubottu, thank
[14:54] <Shanth> is there any linkedin client for ubuntu
[14:55] <idiot> i did sudo chmod -r 777 /*. how do i fix this o.O
[14:55] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, what do u mean
[14:55] <obscurant1st> Oprtz: ;)
[14:55] <BLZbubba> Shanth: you mean a browser?  chromnium-browser
[14:55] <idiot> i am sooo fucked
[14:55] <llutz> idiot: reinstall
[14:55] <obscurant1st> idiot: I don't think you can fix that! :/
[14:55] <Shanth> a client for www.linkedin.com
[14:55] <Dr_willis> djk,  the ubuntu mantra is 'have reasonable the defaults for most users' then  worry about configuration/themes/tweaking.
[14:55] <Sidewinder> cuthbert, You said you were enjoying 12.04, no?
[14:55] <Oprtz> ! Help, any one can help me installing windows wirless driver iw3945 ? it disconnect after every 5 minutes and i really lose hope :(
[14:55] <idiot> Sidewinder: well, i current still connect via ssh, how do i back this up?
[14:56] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, yes i have install few minutes a go
[14:56] <true_techie> what happened here? cat "@import 'bootstylus/bootstrap'" > styles/base.styl
[14:56] <BLZbubba> idiot: the effort involved would be painful... but mostly doable if you have a lot of time
[14:56] <BLZbubba> idiot: the deb files should have info on the default permissions
[14:56] <cuthbert> Sidewinder,  gud features
[14:56] <obscurant1st> BLZbubba: idiot its not worht the effort imo.
[14:56] <obscurant1st> worth*
[14:56] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, nice interface
[14:56] <BLZbubba> obscurant1st: definitely not, but it would be fun
[14:56] <Sidewinder> cuthbert, Just a simple "Congrats",.. :-)
[14:57] <llutz> idiot: really "chmod -r 777 /*"?
[14:57] <BLZbubba> ok is there a way in precise to get a start menu so I can easily browse the installed apps?
[14:57] <obscurant1st> BLZbubba: hehe, yeah if only pulling your hair and smashing your keyboard is fun! :P
[14:57] <idiot> llutz: yes
[14:57] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, why does ubuntu have  end of life of three years for desktop and 5years for sever
[14:57] <llutz> idiot:in that case " sudo chmod +r /*"    since the 777 has not had any effect before
[14:58] <Oprtz> !Help, any one can help me installing windows wirless driver iw3945 ? it disconnect after every 5 minutes and i really lose hope
[14:58] <cuthbert>  Sidewinder, why does ubuntu have  end of life of three years for desktop and 5years for sever
[14:58] <Sidewinder> cuthbert, Why, indeed..??
[14:58] <llutz> idiot: it should have given you an error about missing file 777
[14:58] <Shanth> empathy chat donot have support for Linkedin..
[14:58] <cuthbert> Sidewinder,  i need to know
[14:58] <idiot> llutz:  sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[14:58] <BLZbubba> Shanth: what protocol does it use?
[14:58] <obscurant1st> BLZbubba: there is an extension which gives you the start menu like old days, by still keeping unity.
[14:58] <djk> Dr_willis: right the reasonable defaults I understand but the tweaking isn't even possible from what I have been able to determine. The defaults are hard set no tweak possible
[14:58] <Shanth> http
[14:58] <BLZbubba> Shanth: e.g. is it XMPP?
[14:58] <cuthbert> Sidewinder,  am new in ubntu  so am in need
[14:58] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: Install the same configuration and packages in a local virtual machine or chroot, then run a script to copy permissions across and report any files on the server that aren't in the VM/chroot
[14:58] <llutz> idiot: so you did chmod -R  not -r     then go and install from fresh
[14:59] <BLZbubba> obscurant1st: what is it called?
[14:59] <BLZbubba> i guess I can grep around in /usr/share/applications/.......
[14:59] <idiot> IntuitiveNipple: can i do any of this from ssh?
[14:59] <Oprtz> guys plz help me , ! Help, any one can help me installing windows wirless driver iw3945 ? it disconnect after every 5 minutes and i really lose hope
[14:59] <Shanth> linkedin is facebook like social network for professionaals
[14:59] <Sidewinder> cuthbert, Then, you would need to ask the developers or the wonderful folks at Canonical. Why is there air?
[14:59] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, and in my haste to delete the offending file and re create it, i have deleted the entire init directory! Oooohhh F
[14:59] <lasher> my xchat has no user list - just installed it. ctrl+f7 does nothing
[15:00] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: OMG ... meet idiot :p
[15:00] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, foolish ans
[15:00] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, exactly! lucky i have a snapshot
[15:00] <Dr_willis> lasher,  ive seen it get resized/moved all the over to the right. mouse around a bit and see if its just drug all the over to the right
[15:00] <govatent> Hey. can someone point me to how an independent artist can upload their music to the ubuntu music store?
[15:00] <cuthbert> Sidewinder, respect me as i give u
[15:00] <Dr_willis> lasher,  pointer becomes a <--> arrow when you can ersize it
[15:00] <Dr_willis> resize
[15:00] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: I'd build the chroot locally, then from the server mount the chroot using sshfs
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> govatent  better ask in #ubuntustudio
[15:01] <lasher> Dr_willis, I have and it just maximises this text window
[15:01] <idiot> IntuitiveNipple: can i do anything from ssh
[15:01] <govatent> Cool. Thanks MonkeyDust
[15:01] <idiot> im currently connected via ssh, but if i close the connection then i can't reconnect
[15:01] <obscurant1st> BLZbubba: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/
[15:01] <IntuitiveNipple> yes. well. depends. if you don't currently have su permissions!
[15:02] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: I wouldn't drop that connection. And I'd start a screen session now just in case
[15:02] <nlici> Hi!Can you please advice me which desctop remote control program i can use in ubuntu ?
[15:02] <Oprtz> !Help, any one can help me installing windows wirless driver iw3945 ? it disconnect after every 5 minutes and i really lose hope
[15:02] <nlici> thnx in advanc
[15:02] <idiot> IntuitiveNipple: what do you mean screen session?
[15:03] <idiot> i dont' have access to this machine :|
[15:03] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: the "screen" program
[15:03] <idiot> im on windows using putty
[15:03] <Resistance> !screen | idiot, fyi:
[15:03] <Resistance> idiot:  it works with putty
[15:03] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: Using screen you can disconnect and the session will remain open
[15:04] <Resistance> ^
[15:04] <idiot> so i type screen?
[15:04] <Sidewinder> cuthbert, No disrespect intended; you asked me a rather open ended and obscure question as to why 3 yrs. for desktop and 5 yrs. for server. I answered you as best I could (not being inside the minds of the developers), and suggested that you address your question to them. Not sure what else you want from be but I'm always willing to try. Shall we move on?
[15:04] <peppermint_> my wireless internet isn't working, where do I start?
[15:04] <obscurant1st> nlici: its already there. if you want something else you can try team viewer
[15:04] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: Then when you reconnect over ssh  you can use "screen -R" to get back
[15:04] <peppermint_> lshw says it is unclaimed
[15:05] <guest123> peppermint_ > you are kde or gnome ?
[15:05] <nlici> teamwiever is not in the syneptic nor in the ubuntu sowftware center
[15:05] <jrib> cuthbert: it's 5 years for both desktop and server on (new) LTS now
[15:05] <Dr_willis> lasher,  you are using xchat, and not xchat gnome? ive defunatly seen that nick list get moved to far to the right
[15:05] <nlici> do i have to download it from the site ?
[15:05] <idiot> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440 can i fix this somehow?
[15:05] <auronandace> nlici: yes
[15:05] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: But, it sounds as if you might need to run a recovery kernel/session on that server. Does the server host provide a remote  console?
[15:05] <jrib> idiot: depends how you caused it
[15:05] <nlici> thx
[15:06] <idiot> jrib: sudo chomd -R 777 /* :|
[15:06] <peppermint_> guest123, gnome
[15:06] <theadmin> peppermint_: Looking at both your nickname and your "real name", I can tell you're using Peppermint, which is not a supported derivative. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but just so you know, derivatives are unsupported here (except specific ones such as K/X/L/Edu-buntu)
[15:06] <bourke> is there any other way to get attention on a bug other than clicking "affects me" ?
[15:06] <peppermint_> wait no it's disabled
[15:06] <idiot> IntuitiveNipple: i don't think so
[15:06] <auronandace> idiot: just reinstall
[15:06] <idiot> auronandace: yeah. this is at work though. this is bad. really bad
[15:06] <jrib> idiot: fastest way to fix it is backup and reinstall
[15:06] <peppermint_> theadmin, it's a general networkmanager problem, thought I might as well ask here
[15:06] <idiot> jrib: can i back up via scp?
[15:07] <idiot> like, transfer everythig?
[15:07] <guest123> peppermint_> type lspci | grep -i "network"
[15:07] <auronandace> idiot: why did you do it?
[15:07] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50704/sudo-error-is-mode-0777-should-be-0440
[15:07] <obscurant1st> idiot: you can do a dd!
[15:07] <peppermint_> guest123, 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:07] <nlici> how to open rpm file?
[15:07] <jrib> idiot: uhh depends what you want to backup (does your user have access to everything you want to backup)
[15:07] <obscurant1st> nlici: rpm is for redhat, try .deb or src
[15:07] <jrib> nlici: you should not use rpm on ubuntu.  What are you trying to intall?
[15:07] <auronandace> !deb | nlici
[15:08] <idiot> obscurant1st: what is a dd?
[15:08] <guest123> peppermint_> yeah, it's the wifi card, now juest wait
[15:08] <theadmin> peppermint_: sudo lshw -C network | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us # Run this, paste result
[15:08] <obscurant1st> idiot: make an exact image of the disk and keep it for later use. You can even mount a dd image and use it.
[15:08] <nlici> thx
[15:08] <theadmin> nlici: You don't, Ubuntu has no support for RPM, basically.
[15:09] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[15:09] <idiot> obscurant1st: can i do that via ssh? everything depends on my ssh connection right now
[15:09] <IntuitiveNipple> obscurant1st: idiot has done this on a remote headless server
[15:09] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot: you will need to ask the server host to manually intervene
[15:09] <obscurant1st> oh ok!
[15:09] <Narc> Hello everyone. I found no way to set Rhythmbox to convert automatically to ogg. Even though it's selected in "preferred format", it keeps converting them to mp3 when I sync my Android phone...
[15:09] <nlici> easy deb open ?
[15:09] <idiot> ok, so i need to back things up
[15:10] <idiot> what is the best way to do this
[15:10] <peppermint_> theadmin, http://sprunge.us/iUPf
[15:10] <Dr_willis> !backup
[15:10] <idiot> via ssh though
[15:10] <auronandace> nlici: install gdebi
[15:10] <theadmin> peppermint_: Uh, "disabled"... Is it hardblocked by any chance?
[15:10] <noobfriend> Has anybody ran ubuntu 12.04 with bumblebee yet?
[15:10] <peppermint_> dunno
[15:10] <peppermint_> shouldn't be
[15:10] <obscurant1st> noobfriend: yep
[15:10] <guest123> peppermint_> type in root service network-manager status
[15:10] <theadmin> peppermint_: ...Do you have a wifi button? If so, press it
[15:11] <peppermint_> guest123, peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo service network-manager status
[15:11] <peppermint_> network-manager start/running, process 2563
[15:11] <Narc> noobfriend: I do, and it seems to work quite well.
[15:11] <jrib> idiot: did your provider happen to set a root password?
[15:11] <guest123> peppermint_> ok ;-)
[15:11] <auronandace> peppermint_: peppermint isn't supported here
[15:11] <guest123> peppermint_> so, your wifi must work
[15:11] <obscurant1st> Narc: any luck on trying to connect a HDMI extended monitor?
[15:12] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop normally, the backlight turns off on closing, but the laptop never stops running. I'm setting this install up for someone else I'd like to have the ability to just be able to close the laptop and it sleep.
[15:12] <jrib> nlici: you really should be using software manager and not downloading debs manually
[15:12] <auronandace> jrib: he is trying to install teamviewer
[15:12] <linuxfreaker> my server has been hack by some hackers. Root password has been changed, and the hacker keeps changing it every time I regained access. how shall I handle this issue. I need to have everything back to normal and to kick the hacker out of my system
[15:12] <guest123> peppermint_> can you make a screenshot of your entire screen and publish here ?
[15:12] <BLZbubba> obscurant1st: does that work with unity?  it is complaining that i don't have gnome 3
[15:12] <peppermint_> theadmin, pressed it
[15:12] <peppermint_> no visible change
[15:12] <llutz> linuxfreaker: set the system up from fresh
[15:12] <jrib> linuxfreaker: reinstall
[15:12] <theadmin> peppermint_: What about, uh, "sudo rfkill unblock all"?
[15:12] <Narc> obscurant1st: It works out of the box on my Asus laptop when I plug my TV in. And under Unity too which is quite a feat.
[15:13] <linuxfreaker> jrib: I have cPanel running
[15:13] <obscurant1st> BLZbubba: Ooops. Sorry mate, I am already on Gnome 3.
[15:13] <linuxfreaker> jrib: How can I secure my machine
[15:13] <jrib> linuxfreaker: do you know how the intruder gained access?
[15:13] <auronandace> peppermint_: what is the output of uname -a
[15:13] <obscurant1st> Narc: whaaaat? It works for you? That leaves me pretty sad! :/
[15:13] <noobfriend> ahhh i hate optimus technology for ubuntu
[15:13] <noobfriend> and UNITY!
[15:13] <Darkasakerionz> Hi, I have a little problem with openvpn, I have 2 net interfaces, one for lan and the other for Internet, the thing it's that I install openvpn and the server-client works, but I can't access to the internet. http://dpaste.com/746067/
[15:13] <androidbruce> could someone give some assistance with bind9 and 12.04?
[15:14] <peppermint_> auronandace, it says peppermint
[15:14] <peppermint_> 2.6.38
[15:14] <obscurant1st> Narc: So do you use optirun, or it simply works?
[15:14] <Sidewinder> linuxfreaker, What llutz and jrib said; however I am more than curious as to exactly how this occurred and what you plan on to prevent. TIA.
[15:14] <linuxfreaker> jrib: How shall I check that
[15:14] <auronandace> peppermint_: please use the right support channel
[15:14] <Hariezg> Can I upgrade Xubuntu LTS 11:10 to 12:04?
[15:14] <theadmin> Darkasakerionz: Simply set a default route: sudo route add default dev pppX (replace X with your ppp interface... 1 I guess. Or 0)
[15:14] <Narc> obscurant1st: HDMI just works without optirun
[15:14] <linuxfreaker> Sidewinder: How can I know how its intruding
[15:14] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: I use optirun and without it and both work
[15:14] <luite> i haven an ubuntu server with static ip (/etc/network/interfaces), but /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten every time. where do i make the dns configuration permanently?
[15:15] <Hariezg> can i Upgrade xubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 LTS?
[15:15] <obscurant1st> Narc: your hdmi is on intel then, I suppose?
[15:15] <jrib> luite: ubuntu version?
[15:15] <peppermint_> auronandace, peppermint is a fork, they didn't make any changes to networkmanager. ergo, I can use this support channel as a last resort since their channel is dead
[15:15] <bazhang> Hariezg, 11.10 is not lts, 12.04 is, and yes you can
[15:15] <obscurant1st> Mine is on Nvidia! :/
[15:15] <luite> jrib: 12.04 server
[15:15] <Darkasakerionz> theadmin, I don't have a ppp interface, i only have tun and eth*
[15:15] <jrib> peppermint_: unofficial forks of ubuntu aren't supported here
[15:15] <auronandace> !derivatives | peppermint_
[15:15] <theadmin> Darkasakerionz: Doh, sorry, I'm used to PPTP vpn's, uh, whichever interface belongs to your VPN.
[15:15] <theadmin> Darkasakerionz: The one for internet, that is
[15:15] <noobfriend> obscurantls: Mine too, optirun should do the job
[15:15] <jrib> !notes | luite
[15:15] <obscurant1st> peppermint_: try wicd as a last resort
[15:15] <jrib> luite: see the release notes about resolv.conf
[15:15] <peppermint_> theadmin, no change except the bluetooth light came on
[15:16] <Narc> obscurant1st: I think it's on the Nvidia
[15:16] <peppermint_> obscurant1st, ok ty
[15:16] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, back up and running and works magic!
[15:16] <Hariezg> @bazhang apa ada cara khusus?
[15:16] <obscurant1st> noobfriend: yours also works?
[15:16] <theadmin> peppermint_: I see... hm. Well, as many people mentioned, peppermint isn't supported here, I suspect a driver issue tbh
[15:16] <bazhang> Hariezg, english
[15:16] <peppermint_> obscurant1st, how do I use it
[15:16] <peppermint_> ?
[15:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Darkasakerionz: you've probably allowed the openvpn connection to set the default route. check "ip route show"
[15:16] <obscurant1st> Narc: its on nvidia? Man, I am doing a immediate reinstall then. I can live without it!
[15:16] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: Was it the stray "&" ?
[15:16] <nlici> hii i can not able to run the deb.file which i downloaded on my desctop .i tried directly double click but it gives a error . help please
[15:16] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: yes, with and without optirun it works. Mine is on nvidia
[15:16] <thresh> hey. using 12.04 32 bit on eeepc 1201n, laptop doesnt suspend to ram. here's dmesg output after I do "echo mem > /sys/power/state": http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7yvC0FzD any suggestions?
[15:17] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, still checking
[15:17] <obscurant1st> peppermint_: you google mate. I cannot help you further since this is not the support channel.
[15:17] <theadmin> nlici: sudo apt-get install gdebi && sudo gdebi ~/Desktop/your_file.deb
[15:17] <Pici> nlici: What deb? What error?
[15:17] <obscurant1st> you use* google
[15:17] <peppermint_> ok, I'll keep looking. thanks for your help theadmin and guest123 and obscurant1st
[15:17] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, i bet idiot cant fix his problem as quickly!
[15:17] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: i would not recomment installing the nvidia-current as is. I would follow all the instructions on the bumblebee wesite before doing any type of video card install
[15:17] <kayve> My Classic Gnome on my newly update Ubuntu version is acting funny.  I can't send apps to workspaces properly.  Is this a good channel to ask or is there a better suggestion?   I am in #gnome with no feebaack
[15:17] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, also for some reason i can TAB complete the other script that wasnt working before!
[15:17] <Narc> obscurant1st: I'm not sure about the HDMI being on Intel on Nvidia though
[15:17] <idiot> wookienz: is there a quick way to fix this
[15:17] <luite> jrib: ah great thanks. i had already looked in the interfaces man pages but it looks like they're not documented yet
[15:18] <obscurant1st> noobfriend: I have done the step by step process exactly as it is!
[15:18] <idiot> wookienz: because is there is and you are holding out on me
[15:18] <auronandace> theadmin: shouldn't that be gksudo gdebi?
[15:18] <wookienz> idiot: do what i did - revert to a saved snap shot of the virtual machine!
[15:18] <obscurant1st> Narc ok!
[15:18] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: did you do any nvidia installation before?
[15:18] <theadmin> auronandace: Well, "gksudo gdebi-gtk" if you wish ;), but I prefer the plain CLI "gdebi"
[15:18] <idiot> wookienz: does the system automatically take snap shots?
[15:18] <IntuitiveNipple> wookienz: sometimes computers scare me, they seen to know when to play up better than kids!
[15:18] <idiot> wookienz: i can't do anything sudo
[15:19] <auronandace> theadmin: ah, yes, you are right, sorry
[15:19] <obscurant1st> noobfriend: no, it was fresh install of ubuntu. I didn't even upgrade 11.* ubuntu
[15:19] <wookienz> IntuitiveNipple, yes just as you need to run out the door to do something.
[15:19] <wookienz> idiot, sorry mate, start again!
[15:19] <obscurant1st> peppermint_: you're welcome!
[15:19] <linuxfreaker> Guys, I am unable to install Ubuntu 11.04 through UEFI mode
[15:19] <sisar> hi, i seem to have somehow inverted my mouse's scrolling. Downscrolling is actualling upscrolling & vice-vesa. How can i fix it?
[15:19] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: well, mine is from fresh install of 11.10
[15:20] <obscurant1st> noobfriend: and it works?
[15:20] <noobfriend> obscurantlst: yes
[15:20] <Fraz> well i dunno what going on with my linux installation. when i go to recovery mode i get this.....
[15:20] <Fraz> http://postimage.org/image/otvxfn6uz/full/
[15:20] <Darkasakerionz> theadmin, It still don't work
[15:21] <theadmin> Darkasakerionz: Your nameservers configured correctly and such stuff?
[15:21] <Fraz> any ideas?
[15:22] <nlici> the error is like that
[15:22] <Fraz> and i cant do anything from that screen
[15:22] <Fraz> its just fozen
[15:22] <nlici> wrong architecture amd 64
[15:22] <Fraz> frozen
[15:22] <auronandace> nlici: download the right one then
[15:22] <josoygigi> hi everybody
[15:23] <rollitup> I just installed apache2 mysql and phpmyadmin, and also set-up a drupal site on the webroot but when I try to access the drupal site I get a file to download with a message that says "You have chosen to open which is a:PHTML file from:http://localhost please help
[15:23] <Darkasakerionz> theadmin, yep
[15:23] <llutz> nlici: get a correct deb for your architecture then
[15:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: that image indicates a USB device is plugged in that isn't working. Is there anything you can unplug from the PC?
[15:23] <jrib> !lamp | rollitup
[15:23] <theadmin> nlici: So, get the 32-bit deb then...
[15:23] <jrib> rollitup: follow the troubleshooting steps for that issue on the wiki
[15:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Darkasakerionz: Did you check the default route as I suggested? I didn't see any reply to my comment
[15:24] <Fraz> IntuitiveNipple, well theres my phone usb cable, but its not tethered
[15:24] <Fraz> and my keyboard usb extension
[15:24] <Fraz> other than that just mouse and keyboard
[15:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: some USB device is causing those failures... try unplugging everything you don't need. that will at least allow you to see the Recovery menu!
[15:25] <Fraz> ok thanks
[15:25] <Fraz> back in 5 mins
[15:25] <Narc> Hello everyone. I found no way to set Rhythmbox to convert automatically to ogg. Even though it's selected in "preferred format", it keeps converting them to mp3 when I sync my Android phone...
[15:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Fraz: once you're at the recovery menu you can see what the options are and check the system logs to find out why the upgrade failed
[15:26] <Darkasakerionz> IntuitiveNipple, well... I can't do that, because i'm in gentoo
[15:27] <jrib> idiot: what's the issue with backing up and reinstalling?  Or have you decided to do that?
[15:27] <lousygarua> i'm trying to use mpd, but, there is just no... well.. mpd --create-db
[15:27] <kayve> My Classic Gnome on my newly update Ubuntu version is acting funny.  I can't send apps to workspaces properly.  Is this a good channel to ask or is there a better suggestion?   I am in #gnome with no feebaack
[15:27] <idiot> jrib: im just gonna back everything up. i am copying files over as i sill have a connection via winscp
[15:28] <nlici> tx
[15:28] <idiot> the good news is that this a local machine
[15:28] <Kartagis> !ati
[15:28] <idiot> so, onces everything is backuped up, i am good
[15:28] <jrib> idiot: keep in mind that you'll want to put "nicer" permissions on those files you are backing up eventually
[15:28] <idiot> jrib: this only thing i need to back up is website stuff
[15:28] <idiot> and mysql database
[15:28] <idiot> this is a hard lesson to learn
[15:29] <jrib> idiot: maybe backup a list of your installed packages, so you can easily install them again?
[15:29] <jrib> !clone | idiot
[15:29] <tuffgong> jrib, look at this http://imagebin.org/211842
[15:29] <jrib> tuffgong: well that's wrong
[15:29] <idiot> ubottu: thanks!
[15:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Darkasakerionz: Gentoo doesn't have the "ip" command?
[15:29] <tuffgong> look at the link
[15:29] <jrib> tuffgong: I did
[15:30] <nintet> how can you configure pulse audio inputs?
[15:30] <jrib> !notes | tuffgong
[15:30] <tuffgong> have u confirmed that  desktop isnt supported for 5 yrs
[15:30] <theadmin> nintet: You can try pavucontrol
[15:30] <jrib> tuffgong: it *is* supported for 5 years.  Look at the release notes
[15:31] <bazhang> tuffgong, its five years for both. let s move on
[15:31] <tuffgong> wat about in ma link
[15:31] <jrib> tuffgong: i'll update the wiki
[15:31] <bazhang> tuffgong, it's Wrong.
[15:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Darkasakerionz: I've been running openvpn links to my servers so we can probably compare configurations. I know I was once caught out by the client's auto-created configuration file including he "defaultroot" option
[15:31] <tuffgong> bazhang, look at this http://imagebin.org/211842
[15:32] <bazhang> tuffgong, I already did. it's five years for both. lets move on please
[15:33] <Flamekebab> Just upgraded 11.10 -> 12.04. LightDM just shows "out of range" once the system has booted up. GDM works fine. Help?
[15:33] <thegladiator> what is the best way to manage mtp ?
[15:33] <nintet> thanks! pavucontrol was what i needed
[15:33] <thegladiator> i tried qlix but getting an error like
[15:34] <thegladiator> LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to find interface & endpoints of device
[15:34] <tuffgong> bazhang, so does they late update
[15:35] <jrib> tuffgong: I updated the wiki now
[15:37] <profanephobia> How can I configure sendmail (or eqv) to accept incoming messages and simply store them in a directory?
[15:38] <Industrial> My webhosts ssh disconnects me every 1 or 2 minutes. Mounts that I do with sshfs user@host: mountpoint will timeout aswell
[15:38] <Industrial> now I can't unmount it, it says the device is busy.
[15:38] <Industrial> 1) Can I get rid of / stop the current connection? 2) Can I keep the connection from timeouting or just log in again automatically every time I access it again in the future?
[15:38] <Industrial> Using gvfs works aswell but it's extremely slow compared to the sshfs mount
[15:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: Use "screen" to create a reconnectable session at the remote end
[15:39] <Industrial> just changing files in vim locks it for 3-4 seconds
[15:39] <Industrial> IntuitiveNipple: though a SSH mount?
[15:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: as to removing the sshfs mounts ... are you using fuser?
[15:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: I thought you were describing lost ssh user sessions as well as sshfs
[15:40] <Industrial> fusermount -u mountlocation
[15:40] <Industrial> IntuitiveNipple: no, the sshfs mount is in limbo
[15:40] <Industrial> fusermount: failed to unmount /home/tom/Mounts/wf: Device or resource busy
[15:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: OK, I used to use sshfs like that myself, but I didn't have problems unmounting zombie connections that I recall
[15:41] <K-Rich> How do i get the indicator-weather to work, i installed it and no weather in the panel :/
[15:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: Is some process holding files/locks open inside that mount? have you used lsof to check?
[15:41] <IntuitiveNipple> K-Rich: fine outside :p
[15:41] <Industrial> IntuitiveNipple: lsof how?
[15:42] <K-Rich> IntuitiveNipple, rly?
[15:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Industrial: lsof with various options allows you to see open files, you can grep the list for anything with a path in the ssfs mount path
[15:42] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, You may need to put in a zip code (if you're in the US).
[15:42] <Industrial> IntuitiveNipple: k
[15:42] <K-Rich> IntuitiveNipple, not sure Intuitive should be in your name
[15:43] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[15:43] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, it shows nothing at all in the panel, where do i add the zip?
[15:43] <JonEdney> Windows Update, brb
[15:43] <bww_> hello
[15:43] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, Not sure; preferences/properties?
[15:44] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, i also see no errors in dmesg, and where preference/properties? i have nothing to click on
[15:47] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[15:47] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, Sorry, I can't give a more definitive answer; there are, to the best of my knowledge, quite a few different "Weather Screenlets", at least I assume that/they are what you're referring to. Also, I'm running 10.04 and you're prolly using 12.04. :)
[15:47] <invincible_> Hello
[15:47] <drPoO> how can I run a custom script at startup using the command line?
[15:47] <invincible_> Can anyone help me to get through some certain liberary error?
[15:48] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, i'm an idiot
[15:48] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, seems i need to add 'indicator-weather' to my startup lol
[15:48] <jlb181> ZetaRC121:  My wifes D-257 works.  Not sure how different they are.
[15:48] <invincible_> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:49] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, I'm glad you got it sorted; and, everyone's gotta' start somewhere. ;-)
[15:49] <farblue> Hello all.
[15:49] <time-lady-reila> hiya, everyone.  linux n00b in the house....got a question for the resident gurus.  ALL HAIL!
[15:49] <farblue> If I wanted to make a complaint about a packaging decision on the 12.04 upgrade where and how would be the best way to go about it?
[15:50] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, start, i've been using Ubuntu since warty (with an occasional sidestep to mint), and linux for 20 years.......
[15:50] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, There was a guy (guess it was a guy) with a nick-name of "idiot."
[15:50] <K-Rich> Sidewinder, just a simple brain fart lol
[15:50] <Sidewinder> K-Rich, Been there...
[15:50] <bazhang> time-lady-reila, just ask
[15:50] <farblue> is there an official channel? it's not really a 'bug' etc.
[15:50] <bazhang> farblue, file a wishlist bug
[15:51] <farblue> hmm
[15:51] <farblue> ok
[15:51] <bazhang> !bug | farblue
[15:51] <BLZbubba> man does the CFQ scheduler suck, why is it the default instead of deadline?
[15:51] <time-lady-reila> weelllll...i've come across an issue with wine that seems to stem from an ubuntu bug with 64 bit processors.
[15:51] <farblue> It's not really a bug
[15:51] <bazhang> farblue, thus the wishlist nature
[15:51] <farblue> it's a decision that I strongly disagree with
[15:51] <farblue> ok
[15:52] <bazhang> time-lady-reila, the entire question, on a single line, please
[15:52] <drPoO> how can I run a custom script at startup ??
[15:52] <invincible_> Hi K-Rich! hope I'm not disturbing you but could you please help me getting rid of a certain shared liberary error please?
[15:52] <time-lady-reila> Basically, I'm getting an internal error--invalid parameters error.  Everything I've found on the forums says that it's an issue with ptrace.
[15:52] <BLZbubba> time-lady-reila: what is the issue?  and have you tried #winehq?  it ls a lot less crowded
[15:52] <K-Rich> invincible_, maybe, what's the error?
[15:52] <bazhang> time-lady-reila, what application
[15:52] <rabbi1> how to install nvidia graphics card (AMD) on 12.04 ? the default one from the Additional Driver doesn't get setup
[15:53] <invincible_> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:53] <time-lady-reila> What code do I use to edit ptrace?  I've tried logging in with sudo -i and regediting.  It won't allow it.
[15:53] <bazhang> rabbi1, nvidia is not amd
[15:53] <Cyonx_> Why isn't xchat showing up on my unity launcher list as an open app? every time I click on the icon, it wants to launch a new instance of the app. xchat windows aren't showing up on alt-tab either...
[15:53] <rabbi1> bazhang: i meant AMD processor with inbuilt nvidia graphics card..
[15:53] <invincible_> K-Rich error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:53] <rabbi1> bazhang: on the motherboard..... :D
[15:54] <bazhang> !nvidia | rabbi1
[15:55] <K-Rich> invincible_, which version of ubuntu ?
[15:56] <K-Rich> invincible_, and 32bit or 64bit ?
[15:57] <rabbi1> bazhang: this is not listed in there "GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a" :(
[15:57] <invincible_> K-Rich_ Ubuntu 11.10
[15:58] <K-Rich> invincible_, in a terminal (CTRL-ALT-T), type 'locate libstdc' and look for ummm libstdc++.so.6 or similar and paste me the path
[15:58] <invincible_> K-Rich Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric 32 Bit
[15:58] <Cyonx_> anyone have any idea why no xchat window indicator showing up on unity (12.04) launcher bar or in alt-tab other than the server connect window?
[15:59] <OerHeks> rabbi1,  you need the old 173 nvidiadriver fot that geforce 7050
[15:59] <rollitup> how to uninstall and application that was installed using a .sh installer
[15:59] <lord_> why do i have a install release icon?
[15:59] <rabbi1> OerHeks: where can i find it ?
[16:00] <tsimpson> rollitup: you probably have to just try and locate each file it installed and remove each manually. .sh "installers" usually don't have an uninstall option, which is why most people don't use them
[16:00] <OerHeks> rabbi1, well i am not sure it is going to work with Unity, it is in softwarecentre
[16:00] <vbajpai> I compiled and installed a software (let's say foo) from source, it got installed at /usr/local/foo, i am interested in foo/bin, foo/include, foo/lib, how do I make the system learn of the files within these directories? manually symlinking /usr/local/{bin, include, lib}/{each item} -> /usr/local/foo/{bin, include, lib}/{each time} seems tedious
[16:01] <invincible_> K-Rich /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[16:01] <rollitup> damn that sounds like a daunting task tsimpson
[16:01] <Flamekebab> alternatives to unity-greeter?
[16:02] <rabbi1> OerHeks: yeah, the software center driver din't work, found this .... http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/07/install-download-nvidia-driver-for.html
[16:02] <Fraz> argh
[16:02] <OerHeks> rabbi1, yes, i thought it will not work, succes.
[16:02] <Fraz> i cant move the aselection up and down on the recovery screen
[16:03] <trusted> hi
[16:03] <invincible_> K-Rich_ There's one more:   /usr/lib/ure/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[16:03] <OerHeks> rabbi1, try a lighter DE
[16:03] <trusted> After i can't mount the other partition : mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:04] <Kartagis> ATI website only has drivers for xfree86. where can I get one for xorg?
[16:04] <trusted> This problem after chmod +s /bin/mount
[16:05] <rabbi1> OerHeks: I think that should do, coz the link leads to nvidia, and its official supported drivers, but the file is in .run format. what is that and how to run it ?
[16:05] <magma> how can I open PDFs embedded in my browser firefox?
[16:05] <magma> like it does on windows
[16:05] <K-Rich> invincible_, hmmmm..... not sure.... you could try 'ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3' ans see if it works, if not  'rm /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3'
[16:06] <K-Rich> i have to go though
[16:06] <kayve> Is the Classic Gnome desktop still being supported?
[16:06] <bazhang> kayve, in 11.04?
[16:07] <magma> how can I open PDFs embedded in my browser firefox?
[16:07] <mbeierl>  magma - do you have the adobe reader installed?
[16:07] <magma> mbeierl, no
[16:07] <magma> mbeierl, is it available for linux?
[16:08] <invincible_> K-Rich_ I tried       ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3       and got     ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3': Permission denied
[16:08] <mbeierl> magma, yes it is.  not on my ubuntu system right now so I can't remember the package name
[16:08] <KM0201> magma: depending on what you're trying to do (sorry, i'm late to the party)... evince is in the repositories to read PDF's
[16:08] <KM0201> !info evince | magma
[16:08] <OerHeks> rabbi1, lot of howto's to find, see the answer of dani3l >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/36911/how-to-install-new-nvidia-linux-driver-supports-ubuntu-11-04-series-270-41-06
[16:08] <magma> KM0201, that will make firefox open PDFs inside it?
[16:08] <invincible_> K-Rich_ I also tried rm /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3      and got       rm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3': No such file or directory
[16:09] <mbeierl> KM0201, can evince be set to open a la ole inside the browser?
[16:09] <rabbi1> OerHeks: Thank you ...!!!
[16:09] <KM0201> magma: not sur eon that, i've always found browsing PDF's in a web browser, extremely annoying, so i download them
[16:09] <mbeierl> KM0201, ditto here.
[16:10] <mbeierl> magma, but i do know that when i installed acroread, it started opening in my browser
[16:10] <invincible_> @K-Rich: Anyways, thanks a lot for your kind help.
[16:10] <KM0201> yeah, i think acroread does that
[16:10] <bazhang> magma, acroread is in the partner repo
[16:10] <mbeierl> bazhang, thanks!  That's where it came from!
[16:10] <bazhang> !partner | magma
[16:11] <magma> ok
[16:11] <mbeierl> so, magma, add the partner repo, then apt-get update, then apt-get install acroread, and that ought to do it
[16:12] <linux> vlc is getting struck during playing
[16:12] <bazhang> linux try with mplayer
[16:12] <linux> how to update vlc?
[16:13] <bazhang> linux, the odds are it's a corrupt source
[16:13] <KM0201> i swtiched to xbmc on my laptop.. it just seems to work so much better than VLC (but i still have vlc for some stuff)
[16:14] <bazhang> invincible_, in channel please
[16:15] <doda> hi folks
[16:15] <Cyonx> not that anybody answered, but the solution to missing xchat panel icon was apparently I needed to edit dconf entry for unity to allow 'XChat IRC'. is there any reason I wouldn't want to just change it to show 'all' ?
[16:15] <invincible_> @bazhang: Sure Sir.
[16:15] <doda> can i add a different mirror in software sources ?
[16:15] <KM0201> Cyonx: i've been wondering that myself
[16:15] <doda> that isn't in the official list yet ?
[16:15] <KM0201> how did you do that?
[16:15] <trco> Good morning. I am running ubuntu 10.04lts and I have never had a problem with an apt-get upgrade before. But recently when I attempt the command it hangs on "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.26)]" and then eventually just times out. Any way around this?
[16:16] <Cyonx> do what, fix the xchat icon?
[16:16] <doda> check your internet connection trco
[16:16] <KM0201> Cyonx: where in dconf did you make that adjustment?
[16:16] <trco> doda: Seems to be working ;) I am here...
[16:16] <KM0201> Cyonx: affirmative
[16:16] <doda> see if you can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:16] <Cyonx> desktop->unity->panel->systray-whitelist
[16:17] <invincible_> @bazhang: May I tell you about the error please?
[16:17] <KM0201> Cyonx: hmm, what do you do there?
[16:17] <trco> doda: It does not seem to ping however I can curl the url and get the appropriate response.
[16:17] <gulzar> Pici: Hello. Remember I asked about creating symlinks. Here is what I wanted to do. Exactly what I wanted to have. When Main.sh is launched it shows this http://imagebin.org/211847 . When Accessories is clicked it shows this http://imagebin.org/211848 . Clicking on Arrow takes back to Main screen and so on it works. It is little bit like KDE-search-plasma .. just without search bar (thinking of adding that also) and much less RAM and CPU usage.
[16:17] <Cyonx> add 'XChat IRC' to the end of the whitelist string. I then had to do an alt-f2 "unity --replace" to get it to take effect.
[16:17] <bazhang> invincible_, describe to the channel exactly what you are trying to do when you get that error; if someone knows they will answer
[16:18] <KM0201> Cyonx: hmm, won't let me edit it.. did you open it w/ sudo?
[16:18] <doda> trco: try a different server
[16:18] <KM0201> oh wait, now i got it
[16:18] <Cyonx> KM0201: using a dconf editor I installed with apt-get. I assume sudo is built-in to that
[16:18] <unperson> I'm trying to make sure my cupsd configuration is sane from a security standpoint.  Cups server is on the LAN, but the machine is in the DMZ.  It's not clear to me if access from the WAN would actually be heeded, but I was wondering about using the Listen or Allow keywords to make certain such requests would be ignored.  Can anyone help?
[16:19] <KM0201> hmm, i'm moving about 200gigs of right now, i'll try when thats done
[16:19] <invincible_> @bazhang: I have a certain .elf file which is giving me the following error while I try to execute it:      error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[16:19] <gulzar> Pici: anything?
[16:19] <Cyonx> KM0201: things were a bit wonky after the unity --replace until I closed the open instances of xchat and restarted xchat. after that, works perfectly.
[16:19] <KM0201> ok
[16:20] <trco> I just tried canada (ca.archive.ubuntu.com) but it doesn't seem to like that one either
[16:21] <doda> hm, wierd
[16:21] <doda> you have set up a proxy or something ?
[16:21] <proka> Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to resize the root partition ( / ) by using some free space off the /home partition without reinstalling OS?
[16:21] <trco> I am behind a firewall but that has never caused a problem in the past. I have my env set with the proxy info
[16:22] <trco> I am behind a proxy I mean sorry
[16:23] <invincible_> Somebody please help.    error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[16:23] <kenny__> nick kennynston
[16:24] <unperson> proka, I think the answer is yet, although if something goes wrong you may corrupt the partitions being resized.  You'll also probably have to perform the operation from a live CD.
[16:24] <unperson> proka, Heh, I meant yes, not "yet", of course.
[16:25] <tomasm-> hi, can I use the standard ubuntu install CD to run gnu parted (command line is ok) or move my windows partition over to make room for linux?
[16:26] <proka> unperson, I see. But if I backup everything with clonezilla I should be safe? I mean, the worst case scenario would be something going wrong, having to wipe everything, resizing the partitions in the process and then restoring whatever I want to from the Clonezilla images?
[16:27] <meco> I have been given two different swapfile statements for my /etc/fstab. Can someone inform me what is the difference between them? First one: /swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0   Second one: /swapfile none swap sw 0 0   .
[16:27] <unperson> proka, If you have a backup of the contents of any partitions being resized then you should be relatively safe.
[16:27] <proka> unperson, Okay, thanks a lot :)
[16:27] <unperson> proka, Assuming you can restore from the backup (sometimes people don't test this until it's too late) and assuming the backup is not *on* one of the partitions.  :-)
[16:27] <XiaYixuan> hi
[16:28] <XiaYixuan> how to install a tar.gz on Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:28] <Myx0x3> hi. a friend of mine cant install ubuntu-server on hes laptop.. it says something like "cannot read file content......" he uses unetbootin and "LiLi" to create usb disc..
[16:28] <Myx0x3> sorry: it says: "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?"
[16:28] <XiaYixuan> ./configure works not :(
[16:29] <KM0201> Myx0x3: why did he use Lilo?
[16:29] <KM0201> XiaYixuan: what are you trying to install?
[16:29] <Myx0x3> KM0201: in the documentation it recomends it
[16:29] <auronandace> !software | XiaYixuan
[16:29] <KM0201> Myx0x3: i've never read where unetbootin recommends lilo
[16:30] <unperson> invincible_, So you're having trouble with a missing library?
[16:30] <ikonia> it's not
[16:30] <XiaYixuan> KM0201: I'm a install QQ
[16:30] <ikonia> QQ ?
[16:30] <KM0201> QQ?
[16:30] <Sidewinder> XiaYixuan, You may wish to have a look here, as well: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[16:30] <proka> unperson, Won't Clonezilla do a test right after it finishes making the images? And ofc they won't be on one of them :D
[16:30] <Myx0x3> KM0201: no, he created the usb in unetbootin AND LiLi: check here: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[16:31] <Myx0x3> he tryd both
[16:31] <unperson> proka, I don't know Clonezilla, so I'm not sure what it may or may not do.
[16:31] <proka> Okay, I'll check in the documentation about that
[16:32] <Kdee32> I was sent an ubuntu disk with the company I currently work for and I changed the bios to cd mount like they said. My issue is the graphics. They are fuzzy and I have a rainbow color background
[16:32] <KM0201> Myx0x3: i dunno, never used Lili, but the first thought, but I've always used the USB creator off hte ubuntu website, and it gets me past that error w/ ubiuntu server
[16:32] <Myx0x3> hi. a friend of mine cant install Linux on hes computer he gets the error: "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?".. he made an boot usb from unetbootin if it helps..
[16:32] <unperson> invincible_, So have you checked that libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is present?
[16:32] <Myx0x3> wrong channel, sorry
[16:33] <Saurabh_123> Hey, will ubuntu 12.10 include HUD with speech?
[16:34] <ZetaRC121> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[16:36] <XiaYixuan> ./configure still doesn't work :(
[16:37] <ikonia> XiaYixuan: what are you actually trying to install ?
[16:38] <XiaYixuan> I'ma install QQ messenger
[16:38] <XiaYixuan> but I don't seem to succeed ._.
[16:38] <Oprtz> !Help, my wirelss connection restart after every 5 minute, i am using Intel Wirless 3945 driver, how to resolve this issue, i am on 3.3 kernal latest
[16:39] <auronandace> Oprtz: why are you using 3.3 kernel?
[16:39] <unperson> invincible_, I'm not quite sure of the nature of the problem, but a reasonable first step may be to determine whether the library is present.  I'm trying to figure out precisely where libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 would be.  My first guess is simply /lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[16:40] <Oprtz> auronandace:  because some one told me install 3.3 kernal it will resolve wirless issue
[16:40] <auronandace> Oprtz: how did you install 3.3?
[16:40] <Oprtz> auronandace:  google it and i found Terminal commands and follow the instructions, i am new to buntu dude
[16:41] <unperson> invincible_, Also, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:41] <Sidewinder> XiaYixuan, QQ instant messenger appears to be a windows/mac program; no wonder it won't compile..
[16:41] <auronandace> Oprtz: i suppose you are using a ppa then, if so you must seek support from the ppa provider
[16:41] <KM0201> Sidewinder: lol
[16:41] <Sidewinder> XiaYixuan, This is Ubuntu/Linux. :-)
[16:41] <Oprtz> auronandace:  ppa ? wat is this
[16:41] <auronandace> !ppa | Oprtz
[16:42] <XiaYixuan> Sidewinder: I thought tar.gz always is Linux o.o
[16:42] <Sidewinder> Nope.
[16:42] <Oprtz> auronandace:  no its not PPA, just install ubuntu 12.04 one week ago
[16:42] <Guest555> hi room, im trying to use hdparm to adjust the IO_support settings of an external hdd however im getting the following error: HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. Anyone advise what im doing wrong?
[16:42] <XiaYixuan> but the title of the webpage is "QQ for Linux..."
[16:42] <auronandace> Oprtz: and added an unsupported kernel
[16:43] <XiaYixuan> rpm/deb easier to install?
[16:43] <auronandace> Oprtz: 12.04 uses 3.2
[16:43] <XiaYixuan> what is "OS：Lemote loonux 1.0.6"?
[16:43] <auronandace> XiaYixuan: why not just use pidgin?
[16:43] <Oprtz> auronandace:  this unsupported kernal makes one this thing good, sound from laptop speakers and headphones were comming out same time with this the issue is rsolve
[16:44] <XiaYixuan> auronandace: blah
[16:44] <Sidewinder> XiaYixuan, Then, sir, I stand corrected; sorry that I have no experience with it. Did you read the link that ubottu gave you regarding compiling?
[16:44] <Oprtz> auronandace:  how to revert to 3.2 ?
[16:44] <XiaYixuan> Sidewinder: yeah
[16:44] <idiot_> ok, so how vunlerable is my webserver now that i have stupdily done chmod -R 777 /
[16:44] <XiaYixuan> Sidewinder: bundled with technical things ._.
[16:44] <Sidewinder> Owned.
[16:45] <invincible_> unperson_, Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric i386 32 Bit
[16:45] <LordMael> Hello :) has anyone had any issues with a lenovo t410 showing the graphics driver as unknown in system details?  It's an Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:45] <Sidewinder> XiaYixuan, Well, sound like a challenge. I wish you the best of luck with it. :-)
[16:45] <XiaYixuan> Sidewinder: thanks
[16:45] <Sidewinder> :)
[16:46] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson invincible_  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 in package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 in Dapper Drake
[16:46] <XiaYixuan> Sidewinder: http://im.qq.com/qq/linux/download.shtml
[16:47] <auronandace> !ppa-purge | Oprtz
[16:47] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I assume that newer Ubuntus have a newer version of libstdc++?
[16:47] <Oprtz> auronandace:  wait for me i will follow the instructions u gave me
[16:47] <Cyonx> LordMael: for whatever it's worth, my Dell Lattitude with an NVS160 does the same thing.
[16:48] <Sidewinder> invincible_, You might try, using either Synaptic Package Mgr. or Software Center, looking for libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, to see if it's installed. If it's not, install it. Hope that helps. :)
[16:48] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I  think the issue is that the library required is named as for a different distro, from what I am reading
[16:48] <Fat-Thing> i'm watching youtube video and then suddenly my music was gone.....what seems wrong with my audio?
[16:48] <bakkerthehacker> hello.  My ubuntu is not booting.  It shows the loading logo and a mouse on top and then it stops responding.  I can boot into recovery normaly.  Any ideas?
[16:48] <unperson> invincible_, Okay.  Let's see if I can figure out how to fix your problem.  Give me just a moment.
[16:49] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Yeah, that seems right.  The naming convention I'm seeing on my Ubuntu is certainly different.
[16:49] <Oprtz> auronandace:  i dont know how to use these commands :( regarding removing PPA 3.3 kernal
[16:50] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: see http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libstdc%2B%2B-libc6.2-2.so.3
[16:50] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I have no idea how that version corresponds to the version in 11.10.
[16:50] <Fat-Thing> i'm watching youtube video and then suddenly my music was gone.....what seems wrong with my audio?
[16:51] <xangua> !details | Fat-Thing
[16:51] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_  see this thread to the end http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517863
[16:52] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Thanks.  Yeah, I see this is libstdc++ v2, whereas the current ubuntu uses v3.
[16:53] <Fat-Thing> im running ubuntu 10.04 lucid watching youtube videos and then my audio went off , volume icon is visible and not muted even in youtube volume tray it is not muted but yet my audio went gone
[16:55] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple: Sir, I've already been through the link and downloaded all the packages. But as I am a newbi, I don't have any idea about commands to install them. Can I get a push please?
[16:56] <p0ck> FatThing: Anything in messages about a crash?  sounds like something went goofy with a service
[16:56] <p0ck> ii had similar issues with pandora on a centos box
[16:57] <ringe> Between 3 pm and 4 pm today I saw extra much mail traffic on my server, now I find these log files empty: user.log messages mail.err mail.log mail.warn mail.info syslog auth.log mysql.log vsftpd.log daemon.log
[16:57] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Any idea why they have him downloading the Debian packages and not the old Ubuntu ones?
[16:57] <ringe> Should I be worried, or could logroate make trouble?
[16:57] <xangua> Fat-Thing: no sound only for flash content¿
[16:57] <tfitts_> I'm trying to do a command-line update from maverick to natty and every time I try it for the last few days I get a bunch of 404 errors on this path and it won't continue.  what can I do? W:Failed to fetch http://s2plmirror01.prod.sdl2.secureserver.net/ubuntu/dists/natty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[16:57] <IntuitiveNipple> invincible_: it looks like it might be too difficult for a newcomer... the 'best' solution would be to ask the writers/publishers of the program you're trying to run to update their code to use a recent standard C library
[16:58] <osse> What is the easiest way to configure which daemons should start on system boot? I have install sshd and lightppd for testing purposes, but don't want them running all the time
[16:58] <unperson> invincible_, I think IntuitiveNipple is probably correct.
[16:58] <Toph2> recently , the sound on videos, both on Chrome and Firefox has become jerky, it pulses in and out,, and ideas? I have always had good sound before
[16:59] <p0ck> osse: chkconfig
[16:59] <unperson> invincible_, It *may* be possible to make it work, but the chances are probably not good except for someone with some very good computer skills (judging by the last post in that forum thread).
[16:59] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: From what I could tell the packages had been deleted from the ubuntu archive servers.... thought I didn't notice if they checked  old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:59] <xangua> tfitts_: already tried to change the download servers to the Main Server¿
[16:59] <Fat-Thing> xangua,  all
[17:00] <tfitts_> nope, my first upgrade attempt.  where do I do that?
[17:00] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: if they're on old-releases.ubuntu.com then invincible_ could add a temporary apt repository entry to pull the required library in
[17:00] <_Ethan_> hi there
[17:00] <xangua> Fat-Thing: so have you maybe uninstalled pulseaudio or done soemthjing in sound settings¿
[17:01] <_Ethan_> what means "../" and "./" ??
[17:01] <daviddoria> When I do "sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev", I get this error: http://pastebin.com/WJpAKwbY - how would I fix that?
[17:01] <osse> p0ck, brilliant! Thanks.
[17:01] <tfitts_> _Ethan_: parent directory and current directory
[17:01] <Fat-Thing> nope i've done nothing just watching video and it's gone
[17:01] <xangua> tfitts_: in the update manager, clic the Preferences button, change to main server in the very first tab
[17:01] <p0ck> Fat-Thing: nothing in messages?
[17:01] <Boohbah> _Ethan_: the parent directory and the current directory
[17:01] <p0ck> osse: np
[17:01] <tfitts_> xangua: This is server, no gui
[17:01] <xangua> ,mmm shame on me
[17:01] <_Ethan_> tfitts_ and Boohbah  thank you so much
[17:01] <invincible_> @IntuitiveNipple & unperson: Actually its an executable from a challenge site HackQuest.com. Its a stegano decoder that needs to be executed in order to decode a certain stegano image.
[17:02] <xangua> tfitts_: don't know how to change the download server in...server :P
[17:02] <tfitts_> oh ok, I'll try to figure it out
[17:02] <tfitts_> thanks
[17:03] <arooni-mobile> hey folks;  want to do a fresh install of 12.04... i want to encrypt at least the home drive... and i'm wondering if the ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso	disk has the ability to encrypt the whole disk or just /home
[17:03] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_ The earliest versions I can see on old-versions.ubuntu.com is 2.3.2: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/
[17:04] <arooni-mobile> and i'm also wondering if worth encrypting the whole drive as opposed to just /home
[17:04] <xangua> arooni-mobile: just home, if you want to encrypt all you'll need to use the Alternate installer
[17:04] <arooni-mobile> what are thoughts on encryping the whole drive versus just /home
[17:05] <p0ck> arooni-mobile: LUKS?
[17:05] <arooni-mobile> p0ck, huh?
[17:05] <IntuitiveNipple> arooni-mobile: I prefer selective encryption of LVM volumes. I generally don't encrypt / but do /var and /home and others
[17:06] <p0ck> arooni-mobile: LUKS encryption
[17:06] <unperson> invincible_, You said you'd already downloaded the files mentioned in that thread?
[17:06] <arooni-mobile> IntuitiveNipple, so u use alternate installer?  why do you encrypt /var
[17:07] <idiot_> what else should i transfer if i am trying to make a backup of my system
[17:07] <idiot_> is there a way to transfer usrs?
[17:07] <idiot_> from one machine to another?
[17:07] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_ That program really ought to have beeen statically linked if it is to be widely distributed, not rely on system libraries if it is that particular about the supported ABI
[17:08] <IntuitiveNipple> idiot_: All of /etc/  some of /var/ all of /usr/local/ all of /home/, config from /boot/grub/
[17:08] <unperson> If you downloaded http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-27_i386.deb you could try installing it.  I think you should just be able to find the file and double clikc on it.  That should start GDebi to install the package.
[17:08] <invincible_> @unperson: Yes Sir, I did. But I have no idea how to install it..
[17:08] <Jerusalem420> my samba just stopped working.
[17:08] <lusers> idiot_: /opt (if you have any)
[17:08] <unperson> invincible_, But there's a good chance it will not work.
[17:09] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I'm concerned, if invincible_ installs that libc .deb package it could replace some existing system library symlinks
[17:09] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: which might render the system unhappy to say the least
[17:09] <arooni-mobile> IntuitiveNipple, what of /var/  ?  ;i'm doing something similar tomomrrow
[17:09] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Yes, that's possible.  I thought it would warn him first.  No?
[17:09] <unperson> invincible_, Hold on a second.
[17:10] <ringe> Hi, I really need some input: My log files are empty, should I worry?
[17:10] <x-ip> what program can i use so my workmates can control my machine connectin by the local lan and i can keep working without notice that ? i mean, if i activate vnc server with 'vino' app, they can use my machine but they disturb me while i'm programming
[17:10] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Also, you're of course right that they should have statically linked the library.
[17:10] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple & unperson: Sure Sir.
[17:10] <x-ip> the idea is they connect to my machine in a new session
[17:11] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I'm not sure if it would warn ... running dpkg -i is pretty clear you want to upgrade/downgrade a package, after all
[17:11] <meisth0th> hello
[17:11] <K4k> when installing libnss-ldapd you get a tui to select the LDAP lookups that will be enabled. How can you get to this same window without uninstalling and re-installing libnss-ldapd?
[17:11] <dr_willis> x-ip:  vncserver. or ssh with.x forwarding
[17:11] <dr_willis> x-ip:  not vino
[17:11] <x-ip> dr_willis, 'vino' is a vnc server right ?
[17:11] <jpds> x-ip: Or xpra.
[17:11] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, True.  Yes, I agree that replacing libstdc++ would be bad.  I thought it would not overwrite any existing files installed by apt/dpkg without a warning, but I may be wrong.
[17:11] <x-ip> ups
[17:11] <x-ip> thanks dr_willis jpds , googling that =)
[17:11] <jasonrogena> dr_willis:how do you do ssh with x forwarding?
[17:11] <dr_willis> vino shares current desktoo. vncserver dies not
[17:11] <x-ip> ssh -x ?
[17:12] <dr_willis> !ssh
[17:12] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: It won't overwrite files but it may replace symbolic links for the default link to the SONAME
[17:12] <jpds> x-ip / jasonrogena: xpra is far more relible than X forwarding.
[17:12] <x-ip> ou excellent!
[17:12] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_ This is the kind of thing to do in a minimal virtual machine instance
[17:12] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, That's true.  I haven't had that happen to me, but my experience is very limited with this sort of thing.
[17:13] <dr_willis> on a all linux network. ssh wiuld be a good.tool
[17:13] <dr_willis> !info xpra
[17:14] <Jerusalem420> my samba just stopped working. any idea what would cause that to happen? the program is running, but when i try to connect via my network, i get an error.
[17:14] <unperson> invincible_, The problem is that the library libstdc++ is very important to your system.  The program wants an older version.  It's possible that by installing that older version your system will start trying to use the old version instead of the new one.  If that happens it could cause very serious problems.
[17:15] <unperson> invincible_, So it would be ideal to install it on a machine (or virtual machine) where it is of no consequence if you accidentally break things.
[17:15] <dr_willis> Jerusalem420:  try connecting via the ip# not the server name  as a test.
[17:15] <Jerusalem420> thats how i coonnect. i can ssh in to the ip
[17:15] <JudasMushroom> Hey guys, Im trying to update from 11.10 to 12.04, but its giving me ip not found errors at the downloading packages stage, any ideas?
[17:15] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, I wonder if it's possible to just grab the library SO out of the .deb without actually installing it.
[17:16] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Basically install it manually to avoid any issues.
[17:16] <dr_willis> unperson:  you can copy files out of a debt.
[17:16] <dr_willis> deb
[17:17] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Yes, dkg --unpack <package> can do that ... then he could install the library in the correct location and create a version-specific symlink without affecting any system symlinks
[17:17] <jpds> unperson: dpkg --extract packages.deb directory/
[17:17] <nastas> JudasMushroom: did you check your internet connection?
[17:17] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: oops ... dpkg --unpack ...
[17:18] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple & unperson: The readme for the elf tells me its been compiled under Slackware. Shall I download slackware for it or is there a better choice that is not too much in size like Slackware (almost 2.5 GB)?
[17:18] <jasonrogena> is it advisable to install eucalyptus on 12.04 64bit?
[17:18] <JudasMushroom> nasta, my internet connection works fine...I have tried updating about 5 times on different occasions, I am crtain its not the preoblem
[17:18] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: or see what jpds suggested ... basically the same thing
[17:19] <K4k> when installing libnss-ldapd you get a tui to select the LDAP lookups that will be enabled. How can you get to this same window without uninstalling and re-installing libnss-ldapd?
[17:19] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson invincible_ I'm wondering about a minimal chroot setup for this?
[17:19] <nastas> JudasMushroom:  trying upgrade with update manager or terminal?
[17:19] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Yeah, maybe that could work.  I have almost no experience with chroot, though, so I'm no use there.
[17:19] <Guest555> hi room, im trying to use hdparm to adjust the IO_support settings of an external hdd however im getting the following error: HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. Anyone advise what im doing wrong?
[17:20] <unperson> invincible_, The problem is that a current version of slackware may not have the right library either.  It might have been an old version of slackware.
[17:21] <unperson> invincible_, Also installing slackware may not be so easy if your Linux familiarity is limited.  It is not as user friendly as Ubuntu.
[17:21] <JudasMushroom> @nastas I  used sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from terminal, and that worked fine (packages installed), but it hasnt actually changed to 12.04. From update manager I get the "Ip not found" error
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  try do-reease-upgrade
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  try do-release-upgrade
[17:21] <JudasMushroom> MonkeyDust okay thankyou, I will try
[17:22] <nastas> JudasMushroom: try what MonkeyDust  said
[17:22] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_ Here's a possibility. A wiki page describing how to set up various ubuntu release chroot. The links to the older debootstrap packages (for Dapper etc.) are no longer good BUT those debootstrap versions can be found on old-releases: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  backup first, never know
[17:22] <invincible_> @unperson & IntuitiveNipple: Can Debian help me? How about getting the oldest version of Debian?
[17:22] <JudasMushroom> monkeydust, too late :P Oh well, Im feeling daring
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !tab
[17:23] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: invincible_ wait 5 mins ... I'm trying out the chroot idea here
[17:23] <JudasMushroom> nastas MonkeyDust  I am getting the same "ip not found " errors from terminal
[17:23] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, invincible_:  If you're willing to just install an old OS, you could probably go here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/ and install Dapper Drake.  I think that should work.  Otherwise it sounds like IntuitiveNipple has an idea that might work.
[17:24] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: I'm hoping the info I got about that library version being in dapper is correct... let me check it first!
[17:24] <MusicJunkieK1> i need help. i just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, and now half of my keyboard doesnt work
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  what is the exact and complete error? use pastebin to show it to the channel
[17:25] <unperson> invincible_, Unfortunately I think I have to leave in just a moment.  But at this point we are probably out of my depth anyway.  It sounds like IntuitiveNipple has some good ideas on how to handle the situation, though.
[17:26] <unperson> IntuitiveNipple, Looks like i have to go.  Good luck.
[17:26] <IntuitiveNipple> unperson: Thanks :s
[17:26] <invincible_> unperson: Thanks a lot for your kind help sir. I'm glad you cared to help.
[17:27] <julien> coucou
[17:27] <JudasMushroom> MonkeyDust, nastas here is everything terminal gave me from do=release-upgrade http://pastebin.com/88h9f0zn
[17:27] <MusicJunkieK1> i need help. i just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, and now half of my keyboard doesnt work
[17:27] <JudasMushroom> MusicJunkieK1,  check your keyboard is set to the right country
[17:28] <madura> hey my notebook does not turn off after hibernate, when i manually power off and start it resumes
[17:28] <Gosset_Inofensiu> does anybody use gnome-classic on 12.04?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  it's the jaunty repos it no longer finds, jaunty is end of lifen that's why
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> life*
[17:29] <xangua> JudasMushroom: how about you remove those jaunty entries¿ why do you have them¿
[17:29] <MusicJunkieK1> JudasmMushroom it is set to USA
[17:29] <MusicJunkieK1> JudasMushroom*
[17:29] <JudasMushroom> MusicJunkieK1, okay thats about all the help I can offer, sorry
[17:29] <MusicJunkieK1> kay, thanks
[17:29] <MusicJunkieK1> can anyone else help me out?
[17:30] <JudasMushroom> xangua would they be programs or something? How can I tell what is using those repos, or how do I remove them?
[17:30] <Oprtz> auronandace:
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> JudasMushroom  repos are software sources, jaunty is no longer valid
[17:31] <xangua> JudasMushroom: well i don't believe jaunty entries  just appeared some day, so why don't you remove them¿ why did you add them in first place¿
[17:31] <Oprtz> auronandace:  can u helo me installing iw3945 driver ? plzzz
[17:31] <JudasMushroom> xangua I have no idea why I have them there, how do I go about removing them?
[17:32] <madura> how to turn off pc after hibernate?
[17:32] <xangua> JudasMushroom: Software Center - Edit - Sources
[17:32] <JudasMushroom> xangua Okay, thankyou very much
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> madura  i guess 12.04 has no hibernation, only suspend, i read something about it
[17:33] <IntuitiveNipple> invincible_: This is proving difficult since the packages are so old ... I think this is going to be too difficult to run on your current system. You might have better success with a virtual machine set up with the old Dapper version of Ubuntu, or the related Slackware version the software was built on originally
[17:33] <madura> MonkeyDust: we can hibernate by sudo pm-hibernate i have a problem with turning it off
[17:33] <Oprtz> auronandace:  can u helo me installing iw3945 driver ? plzzz
[17:34] <trism> MonkeyDust: it can also be reenabled, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[17:34] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple: Shall I download an older version of Ubuntu?
[17:34] <Oprtz> !help, any one ubuntu expert plzzz  help me installing iw3945 driver ? it restart after evry 5 min
[17:34] <gdbusy> hello all
[17:35] <plm> how i put the temperature in unity? like as in old gnome temperature near of clock in top-right side?
[17:35] <idiot_> is there a default root password
[17:36] <gdbusy> ubuntu is a great os!  lovin it!
[17:36] <xangua> !root | idiot_
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> !root| idiot_
[17:37] <xangua> plm: you may find somehting here http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[17:37] <cuthbert> gdbusy, why ubuntu and not kubuntu
[17:37] <xangua> cuthbert: they all are ubuntu
[17:38] <gdbusy> i've never tried kubuntu - anything special about it?  just getting into linux really.
[17:38] <IntuitiveNipple> invincible_: If you can find an older version, but only install it in a virtual machine if you do. My feeling is this is going to be futile - the program itself should be fixed, you'll likely waste hours on just trying to set up an environment
[17:39] <Guest88020> salve a tutti
[17:40] <Guest88020> qualcuno sa dirmi perchè questo comando non apre alcun file di testo?
[17:40] <Guest88020> sudo vi /etc/init.d/100Mbs
[17:40] <cuthbert> Xander, gdbusy  help me with this error and i have installed  the ubuntu 12.04 http://imagebin.org/211864
[17:40] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple: May I send you the elf file so that you may check it and let me know if there could be some other method to execute it?
[17:42] <anon_> How do I know again whether I am using 64bit or 32?
[17:42] <rhizmoe> how can i change the system cursor to be something other than a 1px bar?
[17:42] <rhizmoe> anon_: uname -a
[17:43] <xangua> anon_: uname -r
[17:43] <xangua> what rhizmoe said :P
[17:43] <IntuitiveNipple> invincible_: There is no other way - it has to have the compatible standard C library
[17:43] <JudasMushroom> I cant find "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/multiverse/source/Sources
[17:43] <JudasMushroom> " in my software sources list
[17:43] <idiot_> so there is no way todo su root?
[17:43] <Nach0z> idiot_: sudo su
[17:43] <anon_> rhizmoe, Linux jolly 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:43] <anon_> is that 64 bit?
[17:43] <idiot_> Nach0z: asks for a password that i don't know
[17:44] <Nach0z> idiot_: that should be YOUR password.
[17:44] <Nach0z> idiot_: when you do sudo su it should ask for your password again. try it out.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Nach0z  the fact that you have to ask, means you're a beginner -- a beginner with root privileges is asking for problems
[17:44] <Nach0z> MonkeyDust: I'm not the one asking -_-
[17:44] <idiot_> Nach0z: yeah my password doesn't work
[17:44] <invincible_> IntuitiveNipple: Thank you your kind and precious help Sir. I'm glad you cared to help.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> idiot_   the fact that you have to ask, means you're a beginner -- a beginner with root privileges is asking for problems
[17:44] <Nach0z> idiot_: probably means whoever owns the system hasn't given you root access.
[17:45] <idiot_> MonkeyDust: yeah i am and i screwed up big time
[17:45] <Nach0z> MonkeyDust: gotta start somewhere.
[17:45] <idiot_> MonkeyDust: sudo chmod -R 777 /* big time
[17:45] <Nach0z> idiot_: two questions for you. 1, whose system is this, and 2, why do you need root?
[17:45] <idiot_> Nach0z: my works system :|
[17:45] <idiot_> on their webmachine no less
[17:45] <idiot_> er, webserver
[17:46] <Nach0z> idiot_: oh. ouch. yeah that's a problem.
[17:46] <idiot_> Nach0z: how huge of a security risk is this
[17:46] <Nach0z> idiot_: it's a huge one >:|
[17:46] <idiot_> what would someone have to do
[17:47] <Nach0z> you'd have to know the permissions asthey were beforehand
[17:47] <Nach0z> that's a HUGE messup
[17:47] <idiot_> i mean, how would someone access the system
[17:47] <Nach0z> to be perfectly honest, I'd just reinstall the OS at that point, after backing up the configs
[17:48] <Nach0z> idiot_: any number of ways. basically that means that if they get any kind of access to that machine, you're toast
[17:50] <kavurt> i can't scroll using touchpad on my acer aspire
[17:52] <feisens> hello! Can somebody help me with fancontrol?
[17:52] <majid> hi guys, i'm on 11.04 and gnome-panel refuses to run and gives me a "Segmentation fault" error.
[17:53] <Peetz0r> Hi, I just installed ubuntu server 12.04, and it won't recognize the network adapter of any machine I tried
[17:53] <Peetz0r> The machine where the disk is now has alway ran different linux distro's and the network adapter has always worked
[17:56] <mykhas>  guys, can anybody help me with xorg.conf configuration? http://pastebin.com/p5wUez7A
[17:56] <greenit> hi, i have a problem: the flash-menu i can open with right-click is unclickable... however, i use a flash-application which periodically opens it for asking, if i want to enable local data saving.... is there a way to click again in the flash-menu? or would it be better if i use an open source alternative, like gnash?
[17:56] <terry_> Peetz0r: What does lspci say about the network adapter?
[17:57] <bakarat> i just installed 12.04 (alternate install, full disk encryption except for /boot), i encountered the "font" bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/699802) which was fixed by copying the fonts to the /boot partition. however now the boot hangs with an "ubuntu logo" at the bottom left and some weird colors at the top. it never prompts for passwords. note that "recovery" mode does work
[17:58] <bakarat> heh, ye that bug
[17:58] <terry_> !ubuntu+1 | mykhas
[17:59] <Peetz0r> terry_: the same as usual
[17:59] <Peetz0r> the sams as other distros
[18:00] <x-ip> xpra seems to not work ;_;
[18:00] <bakarat> btw; adding "nomodeset" allows it to start booting, it prompts for two passwords, then works a bit and goes sideways (it prompts for a password but the response is no longer *-encoded and it switches between orange and white)
[18:00] <bakarat> any clues what it might be?
[18:00] <terry_> Peetz0r: If you can ask about something specific, someone may be able to help, but in such a generality, probably not.
[18:02] <geopsychic> server -ssl irc.mware.ca Pendragon123
[18:03] <Peetz0r> Okay, I;ll make the situation more specific. I have one machine with two disks inside. Mint 12 on one disk, Ubuntu Server 12.04 on the other
[18:03] <Peetz0r> Networking works on mint 12, but not on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[18:04] <Peetz0r> And in fact, networking is broken in 3 other machines when I use that disk while it works otherwise
[18:04] <Peetz0r> lspci shows the same as other working distros, but ifconfig shows only the loopback interface
[18:05] <bakarat> if i edit the main grub entry to remove quiet splash and the $vt handoff thingy and add "nomodeset", ubuntu will boot but it requires 4 passwords to unlock all the encrypted partitions, the first two passwords are no problem, but the other two are _NOT_ encoded with * so just plain visible while i type
[18:05] <bakarat> any clues?
[18:07] <spire> i need a channel that i can ask about installing Ubuntu/upgrading
[18:07] <terry_> Peetz0r: lspci eth0
[18:08] <terry_> Peetz0r: ^^^^^ What does that say?
[18:08] <Peetz0r> terry_: it says 'Usage: lspci blahblah'
[18:08] <terry_> Peetz0r: ifconfig eth0
[18:08] <Peetz0r> ifconfig shows only the loopback interface
[18:08] <terry_> sorry  type0  Peetz0r    I meant   ifconfig eth0
[18:09] <terry_> Peetz0r: What does  ifconfig eth0   say?
[18:09] <Peetz0r> ifconfig eth0 does show some things, say all kinds of things
[18:09] <Peetz0r> but I can't really copy/paste...
[18:09] <terry_> Peetz0r: sudo dhclient eth0
[18:10] <Peetz0r> terry_: that's working. Why doesn't it do that on boot?
[18:10] <terry_> Peetz0r: I don't know.
[18:11] <terry_> Peetz0r: Look to see if eth0 is set to dhcp (or not).
[18:11] <Peetz0r> terry_: how do I do that?
[18:11] <terry_> Peetz0r: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[18:12] <Peetz0r> Nothing about eth0
[18:12] <terry_> Peetz0r: grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces
[18:13] <Peetz0r> I already see what I have to do here ;)
[18:13] <terry_> Peetz0r: Ok.
[18:21] <pp7> in 12.04 why does my global menu stop working?
[18:24] <dtcrshr> anyone recommends a nice dvd rip software?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> !details| pp7
[18:26] <pp7> MonkeyDust, how much more detailed can it get? globalmenu stops working
[18:26] <pp7> anyway restarting unity helps but annoying to have to do that
[18:27] <idiot> exit
[18:29] <ecolitan> hello
[18:30] <ecolitan> how can I stop image previews showing up in unity launcher?
[18:31] <MarKsaitis> HEYYYYYYYYY!!!! How on super planet earth do I ask my apt-get or whatever to show me which repos can provide me with xxx package?
[18:31] <MarKsaitis> god bless google, it doesnt know it
[18:32] <Pici> MarKsaitis: apt-cache policy xxx
[18:32] <MarKsaitis> Pici, doesnt show
[18:33] <Pici> MarKsaitis: Does your package show up when you use apt-cache show packagename?
[18:33] <MarKsaitis> there is samba4 in official ubuntu repos and samba4 in sogo repos
[18:33] <MarKsaitis> the package isnt installed
[18:33] <X-Raimo> hello, where can I find video driver for Cirrus Logic GD 5446 Card?
[18:34] <MarKsaitis> sure it does Pici , it says its in ubuntu repo only, thats lying its in other repo too!
[18:34] <MarKsaitis> so, how do I ask to list possible repos for my package? any experts here?
[18:34] <tsimpson> MarKsaitis: unless you have the repository enabled, apt won't see it
[18:34] <MarKsaitis> tsimpson, sure it is enabled
[18:34] <Pici> MarKsaitis: and you need to have done an apt-get update after enabling it.
[18:36] <MarKsaitis> Pici, it has been done. I have had these repos for a while now and used
[18:36] <MarKsaitis> so, how do I query for it?
[18:36] <tsimpson> MarKsaitis: how do you know that the package exists in the other repository? obviously apt isn't seeing it
[18:36] <ecolitan> I would like to know how to stop launcher from showing recent files and recent downloads
[18:37] <dragonfly> MarKsaitis, if you want to be sure to install a certain package from a specific repository, you can do the following: - add the repsitory you want to use and disable all others -- sudo apt-get update -- install the package you want -- reenable the other repositories -- sudo apt-get update again to have the full package list available
[18:37] <xangua> ecolitan: go to Privacy settings
[18:37] <ecolitan> xangua: ty
[18:37] <Pici> dragonfly: that is a horrible way of installing a package.  You won't be able to install package dependencies from your normal repositories  if you do that.
[18:37] <llutz> dragonfly: why would one do that?
[18:38] <MarKsaitis> dragonfly, this looks to me as system integrity braking. im good without it
[18:38] <llutz> dragonfly: if packages are the same version, it makes no difference from which repo you install it. if they have different versions, just install the version you want (aptitude install xxx=1.2.3
[18:38] <MarKsaitis> so, I have ubuntu and sogo repos, both have samba4 package according to sogo devs. How do I ask my system to list all repos containing samba4?
[18:39] <Donnie_Darko21> hello how are you all i like to thanks for great work about ubuntu 12.04 its awesome just i have some problem with java installing can anyone tell me
[18:39] <Pici> MarKsaitis: Can you share the in your sources.list for the sogo repos?
[18:39] <MarKsaitis> sure
[18:39] <meisth0th> i can't find python-gi documentation in devhelp, can you please help?
[18:40] <Pici> MarKsaitis: And what release of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:40] <MarKsaitis> http://pastebin.com/0Jm5wXbG
[18:40] <MarKsaitis> precise
[18:40] <papa> whaddup people kudos to ubuntu 12.04 is looking good :D
[18:40] <dragonfly> llutz, I personally wouldn't do it that way because I frankly don't care which repository a package comes from if it's the one I want...but MarKsaitis for some reason seems bent on installing it from a specific repository and that is the easiest way I can think of to accomplish that
[18:41] <Donnie_Darko21> did ubuntu had by default installed java and in firefox java its not recognized
[18:41] <llutz> MarKsaitis: there are no samba4 packages at all http://inverse.ca/ubuntu/pool/precise/s/
[18:42] <MarKsaitis> dragonfly, when u do things, u also try to make sure they will update properly in the future. Also, it's not just a package, but its a bunch of packages with all dependencies etc... stuff needs to be done proper way
[18:42] <MarKsaitis> llutz, really? STRANGE. sogo devs said there are
[18:42] <MarKsaitis> in a mailing list
[18:42] <Pici> MarKsaitis: Agreed. I just checked the Packages files as well: http://inverse.ca/ubuntu/dists/precise/precise/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:42] <Pici> For both architectures.
[18:42] <llutz> MarKsaitis: easy to check and better than to rant here...
[18:43] <plm> Hi all
[18:43] <vbajpai> why is types.h not at include/sys/types.h but at /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/types.h
[18:43] <MarKsaitis> ok, I took their word, sorry =) basically, the initial problem is that when I try to install samba4 it says I cant with all sort of dependency problems
[18:43] <Donnie_Darko21> i had tried with adding ppa:eugenesan/java repositories but its not working can anyone tell me hot to install java7 and to work
[18:43] <Donnie_Darko21> how
[18:43] <tsimpson> vbajpai: because sys/types.h is architecture dependant
[18:44] <alankila> Donnie_Darko21: try openjdk-7-jdk or default-jdk or some such package
[18:44] <vbajpai> tsimpson: okay, so when include/arpa/nameser.h includes sys/types.h what happens?
[18:44] <plm> people, I try to to a auhide left bar in unity of 12.4. For that, I enter in ccsm, enable Ubuntu Unity Plugin and after in Hide Laucher choice option Autohide. but not works. any idea?
[18:44] <action09> hi all ! On 12.04 what's the 'official' tool to manage start services (like rcconf..etc) , if there's a recommend one (cli/gui)
[18:44] <action09> thanks
[18:44] <MarKsaitis> llutz, Pici https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2012-05/msg00080.html my todays started mailinglist and devs in it. All in detail. Please help I am so lost
[18:45] <tsimpson> vbajpai: unless you tell the compiler that you're cross-compiling, it'll use the one for your running architecture
[18:45] <Donnie_Darko21> alankila i will try
[18:45] <Donnie_Darko21> thanks
[18:45] <tsimpson> vbajpai: the default paths searched take care of that for you
[18:46] <zykotic10> action09: i don't believe upstart has any tools (i guess it's not expected for people running ubuntu to use services anymore)
[18:46] <Pici> MarKsaitis: I don't see anything in those messages that would make me think that samba4 was in the sogo repos.
[18:46] <yuvateja> what is command to install packages in the terminal
[18:46] <vbajpai> tsimpson: I think I will get directly to the point
[18:47] <zykotic10> yuvateja: "sudo apt-get install foo"
[18:47] <MarKsaitis> Pici, https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2012-05/msg00086.html
[18:47] <action09> zykotic10  ok thanks for your answer
[18:47] <zykotic10> yuvateja: or if you have a DEB "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[18:47] <yuvateja> zykotic18: thank you
[18:48] <vbajpai> tsimpson: I am trying to compile my software on gnu/linux, all this time I was developing on OS X. The issue is I am dependent on a library (flow-tools), which uses nameserv.h which in turn uses u_char type, which is only defined in types.h, when I try to compile I get error that it does not know about w_char
[18:48] <zykotic10> !tab | yuvateja FYI
[18:49] <Pici> MarKsaitis: Can you pastebin what the result of apt-cache policy libldb1  is?
[18:49] <MarKsaitis> Pici, I am just looking at it myself. pm u with it
[18:49] <tsimpson> vbajpai: looks like you need to define _BSD_SOURCE in order to get those types
[18:50] <simon_clark> can anyone think of a reason that a system drive moved from one machine to another would stop recognizing all ethernet? Unbuntu 10.04 server
[18:50] <simon_clark> the new machine has 3 ethernet cards, ifconfig only sees loopback
[18:51] <vbajpai> tsimpson: but why?
[18:51] <zykotic10> vbajpai: linux != bsd
[18:51] <KarmaComa> u
[18:51] <tsimpson> vbajpai: because those are part of the BSD standard(s), not ISO/ANSI standard C or POSIX
[18:51] <john> So I was trying to compile ruby but I think I botched it, is there an easy command to get rid of RVM and the tarball
[18:52] <vbajpai> I see, so you mean whosoever wrote flow-tools library, wrote it with BSD in mind?
[18:52] <john> nvm
[18:52] <Pici> MarKsaitis: I don't know where you got that package version from, but its not the one from our repositories or any repositories you have currently enabled.  Use apt-get to reinstall that and you should be good.
[18:52] <resno> should i go 64 or 32 bit?
[18:52] <tsimpson> vbajpai: that, or they just didn't know that those were BSD types, rather than POSIX
[18:53] <samfisher> hi. i have root access on a machine and i need to install a deb for a regular user. how do i do that?
[18:53] <zykotic10> resno: if you need to ask - 32bit
[18:53] <MarKsaitis> Pici, ok
[18:53] <resno> zykotic10: ive got 8gigs of ram, so i consider 64
[18:53] <vbajpai> tsimpson: okay, but then where do I define this macro? in my cmakelist or somewhere else, what is the correct way to do it
[18:54] <Boohbah> samfisher: what do you mean? you don't want other users to use it?
[18:54] <zykotic10> resno: with 8GB of RAM, I'd use 64bit for sure (but you still might want 32)
[18:54] <resno> zykotic10: i was just curious if anyone would slap me either way...
[18:54] <samfisher> Boohbah: I do want
[18:54] <tsimpson> vbajpai: it doesn't matter too much, as long as the compiler sees it. but where ever is more "global" to the project is best
[18:54] <alankila> they were trying to start offering 64-bit ubuntu images by default for 12.04, but there's apparently still too many systems that are 32-bit only and that held it back
[18:54] <alankila> I think it's time to use 64 bits now if you can
[18:55] <zykotic10> samfisher: DEB installs are generally system wide
[18:55] <ubsrv> hi there! I've a local network with 3 computers, apache installed on all, no iptables rules, each of them 'sees' the other; if I open the other's http://ip/ I see the corresponding page; now I want to redirect all incoming traffic to port 80 from workstation A to B, on server A I add those iptables rules:
[18:55] <samfisher> and having a small 4pcs behind a router, how can I share the Public folder between all?
[18:55] <Boohbah> samfisher: then just install it
[18:55] <ubsrv> (iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.153.139) and (iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.153.139 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT)
[18:56] <Boohbah> ubsrv: please don't paste things into the channel
[18:56] <vbajpai> tsimpson: quick question again, i see sys/types.h is part of POSIX library, so it nameserv.h which is BSD-specific?
[18:56] <ubsrv> and the page doesn't load.. any ideas??
[18:56] <ubsrv> Boohbah sorry!
[18:57] <tsimpson> vbajpai: it's not that it's BSD-specific, it's just that that interface (API) is the one from the BSD standards
[18:57] <p0ck> ubsrv: IP forwarding set on adapter on gatway pc?
[18:57] <cythes> I could use a hand with dvd mount issues.
[18:58] <ubsrv> p0ck yes, I'm just practising with iptables and I wanted to do that, but opening this page I get a timeout
[18:58] <samfisher> and having a small 4pcs behind a router, how can I share the Public folder between all?
[18:59] <LucidGuy> Is it safe to assume that a wifi card that states it supports a/g/n is the same as stating it support a/b/g/n?
[19:00] <cythes> LucidGuy, Your missing 802.11b
[19:00] <alankila> ubsrv: use tcpdump to observe the traffic. Chances are you need both SNAT and DNAT rules.
[19:00] <cythes> Meaning no it wont support that kind of broadcast.
[19:00] <p0ck> ubsrv: echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward?
[19:01] <ubsrv> alankila gonna try
[19:01] <ubsrv> p0ck yes, i'm working with that
[19:01] <ojii> hi everyone. I foolishly tried to replace network manager with connman, that didn't work so I tried to revert, but now network manager doesn't autostart, doesn't support wifi and has no applet. any clue how to fix that?
[19:01] <ThunderFace> Hey everyone. Does anybody have experience with the Xen hypervisor?
[19:02] <LucidGuy> cythes, I know, but wouldnt a card that states a/g/n also not support b?  I've read a description on the exact same card .. yet its sometimes states a/g/n   and a/b/g/n on others.  Same card though
[19:03] <vbajpai> tsimpson: it was not w_char but u_char, sorry
[19:03] <cythes> LucidGuy, Oh.... Well then... maybe there is something diffrent about the card? I donno.
[19:03] <cythes> I gotta Flash Later all
[19:04] <tsimpson> vbajpai: I know, I just ignored the mistake :)
[19:05] <ThunderFace> I'm trying to set up a Windows 7 HVM in Xen, but I can't figure out how to view the HVM from the same machine that's running it. In other words, I'd like to be able to view and control the virtual machine from the same computer that is running the hypverisor server. I'm 90% sure this is possible as I've seen what look like demonstrations of it on YouTube, but I haven't been able to find the right combination of words to get a prod
[19:05] <ubsrv> alankila doesn't work with SNAT either
[19:05] <ThunderFace> I installed it using Ubuntu Server 12.04 btw
[19:06] <alankila> ubsrv: don't try things randomly, use tcpdump and observe
[19:06] <resno> ThunderFace: this question may be more suited for #ubuntu-server
[19:06] <IntuitiveNipple> LucidGuy: What's the Wifi device according to "lspci -nn" or "lsusb", and which Ubuntu release is it on?
[19:06] <ThunderFace> thanks resno
[19:07] <alankila> ubsrv: the reason why I suggest both SNAT and DNAT is that if you have a situation like X initiating connection with A which forwards it to B, X will think it's talking with A, and therefore the tcp packet received by B must be sourced to A, not to X
[19:08] <LucidGuy> IntuitiveNipple, umm.. Im just reading descriptions on a website.
[19:08] <spiff_> Hello, a Q about the Unity launcher: I've some apps that I can launch from the dashboard that I can't make to stick to the launcher. That is, there is no "add to launcher" menu items showing up for the running app...
[19:08] <alankila> ubsrv: it simply won't do that connection is sent from X to A and replied by B to X, which is what I suspect is happening right now.
[19:08] <IntuitiveNipple> LucidGuy: what's the make and model then?
[19:08] <mmoebius> Hello
[19:09] <mmoebius> Is there som kind of "ubunt Package archive" where I could get an older version of adobe flash player 11.1 ?
[19:10] <LucidGuy> IntuitiveNipple, The make/model are identical.  Just wondering if one website is in error with their description or something.
[19:10] <mmoebius> I'd want that for a non-sse2 athlon machine that hickups with the current flash player 12.2.233
[19:11] <bakarat> i have a dual screen setup vanilla drivers (not proprietary ones i mean) and both screens are currently on the same resolution next to one another. the image is very crisp on one, but blurry on the other. an automatic hardware message has popped up on the fuzzy monitor which says: your resolution may not match the display's optimum resolution (1920x1080). but this exactly what i set in the display manager, would installing the proprietary nvidi
[19:11] <bakarat> a driver fix this?
[19:11] <bakarat> or is it a known other bug?
[19:11] <IntuitiveNipple> LucidGuy: The only way to know is to check the tech specs with the chipset manufacturer
[19:12] <vbajpai> tsimpson: I am sorry, I am still very confused. So I looked into nameserv.h (included by flow-tools). This file is using u_char, I see they are making up for which platform this compiles on no? http://pastie.org/3891102
[19:13] <vbajpai> tsimpson: this is my error: http://pastie.org/3891112
[19:13] <zykotic10> bakarat: probably.  I'd recommend using nvidia-properitary for dual-monitors.
[19:14] <tomek__> :)
[19:14] <bakarat> zykotic10, ok thanks
[19:14] <BurgerKing> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Please help.
[19:15] <bakarat> zykotic10, btw, i vaguely seem to remember the "crisp" display can't actually run 1920x1080 but it is the primary display. is it possible that ubuntu is auto-resizing to fit the "primary" display creating a fuzzy image in the secondary?
[19:15] <gtech> I'm on ubuntu lucid and my Intel 6250 card disconnects randomly from wifi networks, how do I go about troubleshooting this?
[19:15] <bakarat> (sorry if that sounds insanely stupid :))
[19:16] <lord_> anyone have any idea why my gparted isnt loading?
[19:16] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Solved it yet?
[19:16] <zykotic10> bakarat: without nvidia-proprietary, i'm really not sure how dual-monitor is handled or how it behaves - sorry.
[19:16] <bakarat> zykotic10, ok thanks
[19:17] <xangua> sorry, no crystal ball now :P what message do you get when running the command in a terminal lord_ ¿
[19:17] <Gape> Hello after I upgraded motherboard and CPU i'm trying to reinstall Grub and using boot-repair I get an error 'The boot of your PC is in EFI mode, but no EFI partition was detected. You may want to retry after creating a EFI partition.
[19:18] <zykotic10> Gape: are you using EFI?  do you have grub-pc or grub-efi installed currently?
[19:18] <Gape> Can someone briefly explain what's the different and can it work without making new partition
[19:18] <ubsrv> alankila supposedly B is a web cache proxy, so I want to redirect any connection from port 80 from A to B to C (proxy), but looking at tcpdump I don't even see the packet from A to B
[19:18] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple not yet :/
[19:18] <IntuitiveNipple> Gape: You may need to enter the BIOS set-up for the motherboard and change the boot mode if possible to DOS/legacy mode
[19:19] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Are these any good? note the env-vars you need to specify
[19:19] <IntuitiveNipple> iptables -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -p tcp --dport 80 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[19:19] <IntuitiveNipple> iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d $EXTIP --dport 80 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j DNAT --to $PORTFWIP:80
[19:19] <Gape> Is there an advantage to EFI boot?
[19:19] <ubsrv> gonna try that
[19:19] <zykotic10> Gape: 2TB+ support
[19:19] <alankila> ubsrv: ok, in my example I just used X, A and B. tcpdump on linux has some kind of buffering issue too, it doesn't always print the packets it received. I haven't worked out what is wrong with it yet
[19:19] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: $EXTIF will be eth0 I think; $EXTIP is the IP on eth0, $PORTFWIP is the PC to redirect to
[19:20] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple nice :) gonna do it
[19:20] <Gape> zykotic: thanks, Also the reason I'm trying to reinstall grub is that I get '
[19:20] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Also, make SURE that there are no other rules that will handle or DENY/DROP these packets first
[19:20] <zykotic10> !tab > Gape
[19:21] <Gape> zykotic: thanks, Also the reason I'm trying to reinstall grub is that I get 'Failed to create PTY error when I try to boot into ubuntu', do you think this is related
[19:21] <zykotic10> Gape: sorry no idea what PTY error is?
[19:21] <IntuitiveNipple> PTY is a pseudo-terminal
[19:22] <falcom> hey guys, the command "sudo locale-gen en_GH.UTF-8" doesn't do anything. this means en_GH does not exist?
[19:22] <Andrey1> Привет
[19:22] <zykotic10> !ru | Andrey1
[19:22] <Andrey1> какая прога контролирует частоту процессора?
[19:22] <IntuitiveNipple> falcom: What's "GH" ?
[19:22] <Gape> zykotic10: thanks for the tip :) I'm not used to US layout on the keyboard so I have quite some problems typing :P i'll try setting legacy mode in uefi
[19:22] <alankila> ubsrv: you can also use an actual reverse proxy if you want to do (caching) proxying. I use a transparent squid in my network
[19:22] <falcom> IntuitiveNipple: GH is the country iso for Ghana.
[19:22] <IntuitiveNipple> falcom: Thanks... let me look
[19:23] <falcom> Thanks IntuitiveNipple ..
[19:23] <Andrey1> what application control the processor rate?
[19:23] <Andrey1> or friquency
[19:24] <IntuitiveNipple> falcom: I can see ak_GH, ee_GH, gaa_GH, ha_GH but no en_GH
[19:24] <alankila> Andrey1: typically it is the linux kernel actually.
[19:24] <vbajpai> okay I had _GNU_SOURCE defined up until now, I changed it to _BSD_SOURCE
[19:24] <JZApples> On Ubuntu 12.04 sometimes when I put a blank cd-r or blank dvd-r into my dvd burner the OS doesn't recognize the blank medium.  The last time this happened with a CD-r i restarted and then it recognized it.  Anyone have any ideas?  I can't find much online about this.
[19:25] <bakarat> hmm, i've enabled proprietary nvidia drivers and it properly detects both my screens but one screen remains "blank" whatever setting i choose (in twinview)
[19:25] <bakarat> any ideas what it might be?
[19:25] <falcom> IntuitiveNipple: Hmm not sure if Ubuntu locale is out dated, wikipedia state Ghana official lanugage is English
[19:25] <vbajpai> tsimpson: ^
[19:25] <IntuitiveNipple> falcom: Here's a list of supposedly available locales: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man3/DateTime::Locale::Catalog.3pm.html
[19:26] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple doesn't work either, no other rules there
[19:26] <splnet> Some program called "whoopsie" is taking > 300MB. Does this program run by default?
[19:26] <splnet> >300MB of memory that is
[19:26] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Hmmm! I'll try it here :p
[19:26] <splnet> I'm running 12.04
[19:26] <zykotic10> bakarat: "X Server Display Configuration" in nvidia-settings - do both have resolutions? (you can click on the monitors in the Layout section)
[19:27] <falcom> IntuitiveNipple: thanks good to know
[19:27] <OerHeks> splnet, whoopie?
[19:27] <bakarat> zykotic10, yes, the "auto" chooses correctly but i've played around with different resolutions and refresh rates, the second screen remains blank
[19:27] <IntuitiveNipple> falcom: I'd suggest for now using  sudo locale-gen en.UTF-8  - might be worth checking if there is a bug report on this and if not, creating one
[19:28] <zykotic10> bakarat: have you restarted since installing nvidia drivers?
[19:28] <bakarat> zykotic10, yes, i have not however saved it to x configuration file yet, is this necessary to test it out?
[19:28] <splnet> OerHeks: nope "whoopsie" 300MB. Crash database submission program apparently. That is an insane amount of memory..
[19:28] <zykotic10> bakarat: not required, no.
[19:28] <zykotic10> bakarat: once it's setup - then, i'd recommend saving to Xorg.
[19:29] <bakarat> zykotic10, btw, the screen that is "not working" atm is the same one that was fuzzy before
[19:29] <bakarat> (without the proprietary drivers i mean)
[19:29] <bakarat> zykotic10, it uses hdmi, could this be an issue somehow?
[19:29] <splnet> OerHeks: it takes more memory than xorg!
[19:29] <guntbert> !info whoopsie | splnet
[19:30] <splnet> guntbert: so why does it consume so much memory?
[19:30] <zykotic10> bakarat: sorry i'm not sure, never used hdmi with a computer before.
[19:31] <guntbert> splnet: I have no idea, I just found it in the database - did you have a crash recently?
[19:31] <vbajpai> tsimpson: okay but I also have c99 features, so I have -std=c99, which turns it off again, what do I do
[19:31] <splnet> guntbert: nope.
[19:33] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: those rules work here for me if I do, on the same machine "lynx $EXTIP:80" but don't work from another unrelated workstation
[19:34] <daviddoria>  I added a new panel to my desktop. Now I want to move it to my second monitor. In the past I have alt+left click dragged it, but now it is not moving. Any suggestions?
[19:34] <ficarra> Ok, so I installed ubuntu 12.04 the other day
[19:34] <Boohbah> nice work!
[19:34] <ficarra> Then realized I installed with unity instead of XFCE
[19:35] <ficarra> How can I remove the unity?
[19:35] <ficarra> Just remove ubuntu-desktop?
[19:35] <pranjal710> I have installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 10.04, but its not detecting my sound card, instead is showing a "dummy output", I tried ubuntu forums and searched the net, but in vain.. Please help!!
[19:35] <FfoO> ficarra, just install the other graphics and select it on the login
[19:35] <xangua> ficarra: well ubuntu doesn't come with xfce, xubuntu does
[19:36] <xangua> ficarra: you can just install xubuntu-desktop or a fresh install of xubuntu, whatever you preffer
[19:36] <ficarra> I'm tight for space, and this is for family. I can easily see them loading up the Unity and complaining it's slow
[19:36] <ficarra> I installed xubuntu-desktop. I just want to remove the unity.
[19:37] <xangua> !purexfce | ficarra
[19:37] <ficarra> Thanks
[19:37] <pranjal710> I have installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 10.04, but its not detecting my sound card, instead is showing a "dummy output", I tried ubuntu forums and searched the net, but in vain.. Please help!!
[19:38] <zykotic10> pranjal710: what sound card is it?  does "lspci | grep -i audio" show it?  (if it's USB this won't work)
[19:39] <pranjal710> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0bea (rev a1)
[19:39] <pranjal710> this is the output
[19:39] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple I'm a bit saturated now, I've been hours and hours trying, thanx anyway :)
[19:39] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: I'm testing a solution now ... relax :)
[19:40] <ficarra> Question though, what's the difference between Xubuntu and XFCE on my options for login?
[19:40] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple heh, ok
[19:40] <pranjal710> zykotic10: The output:
[19:40] <pranjal710> Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller
[19:41] <pranjal710> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0bea (rev a1)
[19:41] <kayaman> Xander, help me with this error and i have installed  the ubuntu 12.04 http://imagebin.org/211864
[19:42] <OerHeks> kayaman, a script on your facebookpage, my guess
[19:43] <kayaman>   so what can ido
[19:43] <OerHeks> kayaman, click away and refresh your facebookpage with F5
[19:43] <kayaman> OerHeks,  so what can i do  with script
[19:44] <kayaman> it stack for awhile
[19:44] <OerHeks> kayaman, dunno, ask facebook what they do with is?
[19:44] <kayaman> OerHeks, dunno
[19:45] <kayaman> OerHeks, dunno,it appears for  other webs
[19:45] <kayaman> OerHeks, dunno, not only facebook
[19:45] <MarKsaitis> Pici, any ideas?
[19:46] <marc82ch> hi all, I'm new to Ubuntu, like it very much until now. But now I got a little problem: I installed Eclipse via standard software center. It works, but frequently it seems to get lost from the window manager, launcher or whatever. I pinned it to the launcher, but it behaves as it's no longer running. When I click the launcher icon (with no arrow beside) it complains that the workspace is already occupied. Also Alt-Tab doesn't show it anymor
[19:46] <marc82ch> e, but ps does. It's running.
[19:49] <LifeLike> marc82ch, have you tried killing the process before attempting to oepn up eclipse again?
[19:49] <marc82ch> LifeLike, I did, then it worked again until I switched programs a couple of times, then it happened again.
[19:50] <LifeLike> marc82ch, when switching applications, are you choosing 'Show Desktop' as well?
[19:50] <LifeLike> there is a known bug there
[19:51] <marc82ch> LifeLike, I did once, but not when it happened for the first couple of times
[19:51] <marc82ch> use the very rarely.
[19:51] <LifeLike> marc82ch, are you using ubuntu 12.04?
[19:52] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Got it here... almost! got the calling PC to see the web server but it didn't finish page loading. I think other rules are in the way
[19:52] <marc82ch> yep, 12 anyways, installed a couple of days ago
[19:52] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple neat!
[19:53] <LifeLike> marc82ch, hmm I'm not sure if this is the same bug i faced in 11.10 which wouldn't show the application at all when I tried to open it AFTER using 'show desktop'
[19:53] <Doonz> is there an ftp server for all Ubuntu releases?
[19:53] <LifeLike> marc82ch, try removing your installation of eclipse and installing it manually from eclipse.org
[19:54] <LifeLike> marc82ch, have you noticed this with other applications?
[19:54] <marc82ch> LifeLike, really? shouldn't the ubuntu software center installation work better?
[19:54] <marc82ch> LifeLike: no, not yet
[19:56] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: I'm recreating the rules from scratch to be sure it works
[19:56] <zdennis> anyone know if pdf2json is contained in an existing package? I don't see it listed as a stand-alone package
[19:56] <pranjal710> Hey, please help me with my sound problem with ubuntu 10.04
[19:56] <marc82ch> LifeLike: now I unpinned it from the launcher, killed it again and started again. It started, but doesn't show in the launcher... somethings wrong here
[19:56] <pranjal710> There is a "dummy output" coming
[19:57] <LifeLike> marc82ch, is this an ungrade from 11.10?
[19:57] <marc82ch> LifeLike, no, fresh installation.
[19:57] <daviddoria> I have a program I'm trying to build complaining that it can't find gdk/gdk.h. I installed libgtk-3-dev, but that didn't seem to help. Any ideas?
[20:00] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[20:01] <LifeLike> marc82ch, Yeah remove eclipse and download a newer version of it from eclipse.org
[20:01] <Duality> when ubuntu (xubuntu) shutsdown it goes freaky on colors, does this meen it's something with the graphics card? (it's a toshiba tecra S1 laptop :)
[20:01] <LifeLike> since it only seems to be eclipse that's acting this way you probably should try a different version. I've had quite a few issues with eclipse lately as well so this might be just another one of them.
[20:02] <RyoRonin> it
[20:02] <marc82ch> LifeLike, ok, I'll try, however, I thought the ubuntu software center stuff should be working smoother with ubuntu than the stuff downloaded elsewhere? Isn't that the case generally?
[20:02] <IngoPan> www.schoener-fernsehen.com - gratis live tv schauen ;)
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Doonz  there's this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:03] <inashdeen> hi there, i suppose this is the wrong channel. can someone tell me where is the android channel?
[20:03] <xangua> inashdeen: #android
[20:04] <inashdeen> xangua : not quite, that need permission to ente
[20:04] <xangua> !register | inashdeen
[20:06] <LifeLike> marc82ch, the USC don't _always_ have the latest repos of the software. What I've noticed with eclipse is that when ever there is a new version of Ubuntu, eclipse gets the latest update then. After that you have to update it through their repos (i.e. Help > Check for updates) Sometimes that doesn't work either. So a fresh install is needed.
[20:06] <inashdeen> xangua : thanks
[20:06] <kayaman>  help me with this error and i have installed  the ubuntu 12.04 http://imagebin.org/211864
[20:07] <marc82ch> LifeLike: thanks, I'll try, maybe tomorrow, it's already late and I just need to check some code, should work for now... thanks.
[20:08] <LifeLike> marc82ch, np
[20:08] <undercoverapple> Hi, quick question. Is there anyway to open a .numbers spreadsheet from a mac in Linux? I have tried opening it as a archive, which yields a index.xml file, but I can't figure out what to do with that. Thanks!
[20:12] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple nice! :)
[20:13] <Boohbah> undercoverapple: did you try libreoffice calc?
[20:14] <jumper> hola
[20:15] <alusion_> Hello ubuntu I need some help I run a dual boot with windows 7 and ubuntu but not I am ready to delete windows
[20:15] <jumper> alguien de hermosillo sonora
[20:15] <Simkin> alusion_: i agree, you need help.
[20:15] <JessicaW> anyone know of an app like ksplice/uptrack to apply kernel updates to ubuntu server without rebooting?
[20:15] <alusion_> And I want to format the ntfs to ext4, how do i do that without losing data? I already backed up my data from windows 7 and most from ubuntu except for settings
[20:15] <Simkin> alusion_: window s is a curse
[20:15] <JessicaW> Simkin: hahahaha
[20:15] <alusion_> There is no simple path /
[20:15] <alusion_> ?
[20:15] <Simkin> alusion_: windows 7 can't work with ext, you have to leave it how it is or remove windows and install it in to a vm
[20:15] <Tm0> Hi everyone. I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, but it seems like Grub didn't take, as it won't boot up. I do have access to the command line.
[20:16] <Simkin> alusion_: windows in a vm is really the best choice, but games won't work.
[20:16] <riyonuk> When I type "ifconfig", I don't see my IP address. I see something that looks like ipv6? How would I ssh in? :/
[20:16] <alusion_> Simkin, I already have a PC waiting to be built for games so that is not much of a worry I want my old pc to be a dedicated linux box
[20:16] <JessicaW> Tm0: the grub configuration command line or linux command line?
[20:17] <JessicaW> riyonuk: what does it say under eth0? use pastebin
[20:17] <Simkin> alusion_: i don't think i undrestand what you want to do.. you want to remove windows completlely?
[20:17] <jumper> HELLO
[20:17] <jumper> HOW ARE YOU??
[20:17] <alusion_> Yea..I guess so
[20:17] <Tm0> @JessicaW I have access through UNetBooten, not through Grub.
[20:17] <JessicaW> jumper: don't shout please
[20:17] <alusion_> Or atleast shrink the partition
[20:17] <alusion_> Actually yes, completely, GONE
[20:17] <riyonuk> JessicaW: http://pastebin.com/vLQv7iyu
[20:18] <jumper> what means shout??
[20:18] <ubsrv> hey IntuitiveNipple, I think I got it..... I missed a POSTROUTING rule: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -o eth0 -j SNAT --to a.b.c.d:80
[20:18] <JessicaW> riyonuk: yep. thats' ipv6. what's it connected to?
[20:19] <JessicaW> riyonuk: and did you modify /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:19] <riyonuk> No idea. I  just downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu, installed it in VMWare Fusion, and am attempting to ssh into it. Nothing seems to work. :<
[20:19] <JessicaW> Tm0: ahh. have you tried using the ubuntu liveCD instead?
[20:19] <riyonuk> Nope: http://cl.ly/3L0x3I0E2U3X2a29002e
[20:19] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: Great! I think that same rule of mine based on the IP is why it isn't working
[20:20] <alusion_> Simkin, is there a way I can just copy my ubuntu partition to an external then format the drive?
[20:20] <shortdude> hi, i am trying to create a bash sciprt.  In the script i call a python script.  One of its arguments is "print".  Since this is a reserved command, the pything script does not run.  How to i run the python script with the arg w/o it going for the reserved command.
[20:20] <JessicaW> Tm0: try this http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/
[20:20] <JessicaW> riyonuk: what's it connected to?
[20:20] <RyoRonin> riyonuk: what is the network set for your vm client? Nat or Bridge?
[20:20] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[20:20] <riyonuk> It's NAT. I've tried Bridge, but that doesn't work either.
[20:21] <Tm0> @JessicaW The liveCD needs the proprietary driver. It doesn't even get me to the loading screen. I will try that link.
[20:21] <Simkin> alusion_: with linux you can normally do these things..... howeve.r.. ubuntu plays funny games with grub and I don't recommend you try this unless you are 'advanced'
[20:21] <JessicaW> riyonuk: nat should work. which vm are you using? vmware or virtualbox?
[20:21] <riyonuk> Vmware fusion
[20:21] <alusion_> T_T
[20:21] <Simkin> alusion_: best solution is probably to backup your home folder to another computer and reinstall.
[20:21] <JessicaW> riyonuk: hang on, let me login to my vsphere client and check settings
[20:21] <alusion_> I'll have all my apps and everything right ? :D
[20:21] <RyoRonin> riyonuk: is the vm on a wireless or wired
[20:22] <Tm0> @JessicaW This seems like it may need a UI. I all have access to is CLI.
[20:22] <riyonuk> I'm running VMWare Fusion from my MacBook Pro, which is connoted to some wi-fi spot.
[20:22] <JessicaW> Tm0: sorry, when you installed ubuntu, did you use the cd?
[20:23] <Boohbah> alusion_: no, get a list of installed apps and then reinstall them. 'dpkg --get-selections > apps.txt'
[20:23] <ztag100> does ubuntu restricted extras include all microsoft fonts?
[20:23] <Tm0> @JessicaW I used the alternate install. The live cd needed proprietary driver, so I had no choice.
[20:24] <JessicaW> Tm0: ahhhh. hmmmm. one sec.
[20:25] <JessicaW> riyonuk: and it does have a network card under computer settings and it's set to connect at startup right?
[20:25] <riyonuk> Vmware? Or my Macbook?
[20:25] <JessicaW> Tm0: problem is, you're going to need the install cd to repair grub. see here http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:25] <JessicaW> riyonuk: vmware
[20:25] <riyonuk> This is what it shows: http://cl.ly/0K1E0J2x0d0H3K3J203Q
[20:26] <JessicaW> riyonuk: should be under computer settings
[20:26] <JessicaW> riyonuk: hmmm. well it's setup right there. is the wifi you're connecting to serving a single IP address or multiple via DHCP?
[20:27] <riyonuk> Yeah, I've no idea how to check that (new to MacBooks and Vmware, hahaha)
[20:27] <riyonuk> 
[20:27] <Simkin> vmware is kinda dumb
[20:27] <Simkin> vbox is better
[20:28] <riyonuk> That's what I used to use.
[20:28] <ubsrv> thanx so much IntuitiveNipple, alankila
[20:28] <riyonuk> Always seemed to work.
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[20:28] <aaaaate> alguien de ESPAÑA
[20:28] <aaaaate> ESPAÑAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[20:28] <aaaaate> ALLLLLLLEEEEETTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[20:29] <dry_> hi. my web cam not detected on ubuntu 11.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977550 is there any way I could use it?
[20:29] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: you should pastebin the working rules for us
[20:29] <RyoRonin> riyonuk: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/322709?start=15&tstart=0 check out the details, seems to be a problem with macbook and vmware fusion
[20:30] <RyoRonin> riyonuk: there seem to be some solutions in fixing the problem.
[20:30] <ubsrv> IntuitiveNipple btw, do you know how to make any traffic generated in A to be redirected to B? I guess PREROUTING rules doesn't work there
[20:31] <JessicaW> RyoRonin: nicely done.
[20:31] <IntuitiveNipple> ubsrv: off the top of my head, no ... it's aching :p
[20:31] <ubsrv> hehe, ok :P
[20:31] <JessicaW> Tm0: is that working for you?
[20:32] <riyonuk> Hmm.
[20:32] <Tm0> @JessicaW Just checking the BIOS right now, making sure it isn't anything there.
[20:32] <JessicaW> Tm0: what happens when you try to boot into ubuntu?
[20:33] <JessicaW> Tm0: can you hold the shift key on reboot and see the grub menu?
[20:33] <Tm0> @JessicaW I don't get a choice, GRUB fails to initilize.
[20:34] <OvermindDL1> I am getting this exact issue with libmtp killing a connected USB device repeatedly when it is plugged in, with a different device however, and since just about everything from Banshee to VLC depends on libmtp, removing it is not so easy, so how can I disable 'just' the USB probe on it?  http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/52003
[20:35] <OvermindDL1> Googleing for this issue does not turn up much...
[20:35] <alusion_> How do I even format my host drive? boot into live cd?
[20:35] <JessicaW> Tm0: I Had a problem like this in the past. Installer CD was seeing my first SATA RAID card as /dev0-3 and second as dev4-7. it would install grub but it would fail because the bios saw the second sata card as dev0-3
[20:36] <Tm0> @JessicaW Which is what i'm checking. Need to clear my CMOS as my bios password seems too secure.
[20:36] <alusion_> ActionParsnip, I am trying to get rid of the curse of windows (NTFS) on my host drive and turn my box into a dedicated linux machine
[20:36] <JessicaW> Tm0: lol
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: ok.....
[20:36] <alusion_> Do you have any advice before preceding ?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: make sure your backups are up to date
[20:36] <Duality> anyone here got a belkin router ?
[20:37] <alusion_> I wasn't quite sure where my Tomboy Notes saved..
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Duality: i'm sure many do
[20:37] <JessicaW> alusion_: then just backup the files you want to keep to a flash drive and install fresh :D
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> alusion_: possibly in a hidden folder in $HOME or in $HOME/.config
[20:38] <linusable> Duality : i have one (a few years old). What do you need ?
[20:38] <JessicaW> does anyone know of an application to do on the fly kernel updates without a reboot for ubuntu server? Like ksplice/uptrack but for server
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: you can use ksplice on ubuntu server.....
[20:41] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: nope. they no longer sell subscriptions for it. I tried.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu   no need to buy anything
[20:41] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: only desktop version is supported now.
[20:41] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: and when you try to use the accesskey it says it's for RHEL only. I already talked to their support.
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: weird
[20:42] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: kind of sucks. it's the perfect tool.
[20:42] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: apparently this is recent.
[20:43] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: from their support "The installation instructions you see are for "legacy" customers who have an Uptrack subscription already. We are no longer selling individual subscriptions, so unfortunately there are no options for support of Ubuntu servers."
[20:43] <Chaos_Zero> hi
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32611/how-to-update-kernel-without-reboot-ksplice-alternative
[20:43] <alusion_> On creating a usb stick on ubuntu should I format the usb drive to fat32 or ext4?
[20:43] <chaord> hi guys...I have a totally bizarre situation...a corrupt 12.04 (was an attempted upgrade from 11.10) on the same HD, different partition (i think) as a clean 12.04 install (works fine) that I made from a ubuntu liveUSB drive....the dilemma is that I can only seem to get the proper grub menu that lets me boot into the working one when the usb drive is in on boot...even though i installed it to the it's like the grub conf file is on the flashdrive...any ide
[20:44] <Chaos_Zero> for the last two days one of the ethernet connections on my server keeps dropping out randomely. ALl the lights go off on it and it does not even try to reconnect. Unplugging and repluggins fixes it for a while.
[20:44] <zzach> Is there any open source program which converts a directory listing to a mysql or other SQL database?
[20:44] <Chaos_Zero> i have seen this happen with gigabit but never the 100m that this one is using
[20:44] <ikonia> zzach: that would be a pointless tool
[20:44] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: nice. let me look into that. thanks.
[20:44] <ikonia> zzach: you're converting a list into a relational datbase....
[20:45] <Chaos_Zero> it was working fine for monthe before now, what do you tink the problem is?
[20:45] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: oh, btw, that link for ubuntu download is for desktop kernel only.
[20:45] <Gape> Hello, after upgrading my motherboard/cpu and updating ubuntu from livecd to 12.04 I get 'failed to create pty - disabling logging for job' error everytime i try to boot into ubuntu
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: yeah you said...may have to just bite the bullet and reboot in your maintenance window
[20:46] <zykotic10> alusion_: do you want an install usb?  or just for storage?
[20:46] <vlt> Hello. How to switch from locale "POSIX" to "de_DE.UTF-8"?
[20:46] <Gape> It happens in both recovery and normal mode (although it doesn't show up in normal mode anymore after reinstalling grub .. normal mode is just stuck on purple screen atm)
[20:46] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: heh, my guys whine so much when I reboot at all. they want a 897 day uptime... it's ridiculous.
[20:46] <zzach> ikonia: i want to convert a directory tree to a database for easier searching. For windows, a similar program exists (SDC.NET - simple disk catalog) for firebird database and .NET dependent.
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: oh jeez those guys need a clue
[20:47] <ikonia> zzach: that is not a relational database
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> JessicaW: uptime is so overrated
[20:47] <JessicaW> ActionParsnip: I keep telling them this isn't 1992....
[20:47] <ikonia> zzach: the output of a directory listing is what? a schema, a table, a row in a table ?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> zzach: if you want easier searchinig run:   sudo updatedb
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> zzach: you can then use: locate filename
[20:47] <vlt> When I type `locale` I get "POSIX". How to change this?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> zzach: locate USES a database of all the files on the system....
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> zzach: you are making something that already exists
[20:48] <spligak> So I'm running the proprietary AMD video driver, yet the system details window claims I'm running VESA: CEDAR graphics. Is this correct? Or have I missed something after enabling the driver?
[20:48] <zzach> is it possible to convert the locatedb into a database? is the locatedb format somewhere documented?
[20:48] <utusan> chaord: when logon to the working partition, do sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:48] <utusan> chaord: assuming your primari HD os sda
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> zzach: it is a database....
[20:48] <utusan> *is
[20:49] <chaord> utusan: ok, i'll try that...and yeah it is sda i believe
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> zzach: thats wy it searches quick, you aren't searching the drive, just a database of the files on the system
[20:50] <^TaCo^> can anyone help me get me wireless card working for ubuntu 12.04 64bit?
[20:50] <anis> bonsoir
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: what wireless chip?
[20:50] <^TaCo^> I have a dell inspiron mini 1012
[20:50] <anis> hello
[20:50] <chaord> utusan: before I do that (just so I can reverse if necessary)...how is it that i'm ending up in the correct install when the flash drive is inserted?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: run:   sudo lshw -C network       what is the product line?
[20:50] <zykotic10> !fr | anis if you want french
[20:51] <bodom> Hi there. Since last upgrade, ubuntu no longer remembers alsa master volume setting upon reboot, any ideas?
[20:51] <MarKsaitis> any package manager and dependency experts here? serious case, might be a simple solution!
[20:51] <vlt> vlt: `dpkg-reconfigure locales`, log out, log in.
[20:51] <utusan> chaord: not sure
[20:51] <anis> qui peu m'aider
[20:51] <zykotic10> vlt: i think dpkg-reconfigure requires sudo doesn't it?
[20:51] <anis> ????
[20:51] <chaord> utusan: it's like when the flash drive is inserted, it boots to the proper IDE partition (actually it has all possibilities listed out)
[20:52] <utusan> chaord: what happens when not in?
[20:52] <chaord> utusan: when i'm not in the working one?
[20:52] <utusan> chaord: when usb is out
[20:52] <chaord> utusan: mouse freeze, icons don't load, screen freeze, can't really get to a terminal, etc
[20:52] <urda-web> I'm having a huge problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Server as a VMWare guest, my network performance is just DEAD. I can't download or upload any large files, apache2 won't serve stuff up, scp transfer die if larger than a few kb
[20:52] <Gape> Hello, after upgrading my motherboard/cpu and updating ubuntu from livecd to 12.04 I get 'failed to create pty - disabling logging for job' error everytime i try to boot into ubuntu. Any idea on how to fix that
[20:53] <chaord> utusan: oh...i get ya..when the usb it out, it brings up the grub menu that was put there by the corrupt install (no optino to even boot the good one)
[20:53] <utusan> chaord: it's trying to read the grub.cfg which is in the flash drive
[20:53] <utusan> ??
[20:54] <chaord> utusan: yeah...thats sort of what i'm thinking?
[20:54] <chaord> utusan: any harm in running that command that you suggested and see what happens?
[20:54] <utusan> chaord: so when you do update-grub, it creates a new cfg and then grub-install will tell it to read from there
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Gape: does the OS boot ok despite the error?
[20:55] <chaord> utusan: ok, here it goes... .;)
[20:56] <railsraider> I'm trying to setup my own apt-mirror is there a way to get specific  packages and not download everything?
[20:56] <Gape> ActionParsnip:  No, the normal boot just displays the error twice while the recovery mode does it many times, but stops eventually
[20:56] <Sirisian|Work> Does the package manager store old versions of packages?
[20:56] <Gape> Then they both just stop botting
[20:56] <Sirisian|Work> CUPS broke pretty severely with their last package and I need to grab an older one.
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Gape: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/980917
[20:57] <chaord> utusan: hmm...i'm actually not sure how to tell whether i should do sudo grub-install /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[20:57] <zykotic10> chaord: if you want MBR use sda
[20:57] <chaord> zykotic10:  sorry, MBR?
[20:57] <utusan> chaord: should be /dev/sda
[20:58] <zykotic10> chaord: Master Boot Record (probably what you want)
[20:58] <Gape> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, I found that myself, but I'm not sure how to use --no-log command
[20:58] <chaord> utusan: zykotic10:  ok NOW here it goes ;)
[20:59] <chaord> zykotic10: utusan: ok...no errors on install, rebooting, I'll hop back in and let you know if we have success
[20:59] <Gape> ActionParsnip: After a bit of reading, I think I have to press e on grub on the correct OS, then add no-log to the end of the line starting with linux /boot .. am i correct?
[21:00] <zykotic10> Gape: FYI the e on grub is only temporary, use /etc/default/grub to make it permanent (after testing with e method)
[21:00] <Gape> zykotic10: I'm aware of it being temporary, but is that the correct way to imply upstart command line options :)
[21:01] <zykotic10> Gape: sorry, i have no idea.
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Gape: worth a try
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Gape: If it were me I'd just reinstall and restore user data from backup
[21:01] <vlt> zykotic10: Yes, I ran that on a root shell.
[21:02] <Gape> ActionParsnip: Well I'll probably try that eventually, but seeing it's not so uncommon problem I'm not sure if reinstalling will fix it
[21:02] <chaord> zykotic10: utusan:  I'm back, booted successfully without flashdrive in....thank you guys soo much!
[21:03] <utusan> chaord: np
[21:03] <Gape> ActionParsnip: Also It seems adding no-log to that line didn't help :/
[21:03] <LiquidGuide> has anyone had any luck getting amazon cloud services SES email to work with ubuntu 12.04 LTS using postfix
[21:04] <Tm0> @JessicaW Messing with the Bios seems to have fixed it. Not sure if that means GRUB is installed on a different drive
[21:04] <synack_> Anybody know how to turn my "host" folder (windows 7) into a VDI so I can run it in virtualbox from inside ubuntu ?
[21:04] <synack_> i am dual booting atm
[21:04] <Nette> iii
[21:04] <synack_> but never boot into windows now
[21:05] <JessicaW> Tm0: file -s /dev/sdX should let you know which drive it's on.
[21:05] <vossen> synack_: Maybe use VMware's converter to make into a vmdk, it should run in VB too.
[21:05] <JessicaW> Tm0: try this http://serverfault.com/questions/61400/how-do-i-tell-if-grub-is-installed-on-a-device
[21:05] <synack_> vossen: i can turn a folder into a vmdk with vmware free ?
[21:06] <synack_> in ubuntu?
[21:06] <vossen> synack_: Oh, just a folder? Not sure. Think you have to be inside Windows to actually perform that action.
[21:06] <vossen> It will convert a running machine, if I'm not mistaken.
[21:06] <synack_> i wonder if anybody has done this, what happened is i orig installed ubuntu from inside windows, so now it dual boots and i can see the folder /host/ from ubuntu with all the windoze files
[21:07] <synack_> yea this is a special scenario
[21:07] <Tm0> @JessicaW I just realized something. If I need to install the proprietary driver... The alternative CD is still useless. Nouvouro doesn't support my video card.
[21:07] <synack_> maybe your idea would work from inside the windows bootable OS
[21:07] <synack_> and then i could just use the static file later
[21:07] <synack_> who knows, this is complex
[21:07] <kinenkaya> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows
[21:08] <utusan> synack_: I heard VB can do what you're thinking but when you does Windows will not boot anymore
[21:08] <JessicaW> Tm0: :|
[21:09] <Tm0> @JessicaW Ahahaa! To GOOOGLE I GO!
[21:10] <vossen> synack_: Is it possible to make a ghost image of the Windows drive and then write it to a VDI? Just a theory, no idea if you can.
[21:10] <synack_> utusan: that would not be so bad if i could boot windows as a VM lol
[21:10] <synack_> vossen: that is a good idea
[21:11] <synack_> windows and ubuntu are both on one 2TB drive
[21:11] <synack_> dual booting as per the windows ubuntu installer
[21:11] <synack_> ive just now fianlly hit a wall
[21:11] <synack_> where i am never going to use windows again as a host
[21:12] <synack_> sick of the constant virus issues, etc
[21:12] <vossen> synack_: So no possibility to actually boot up Windows and use the VMware converter?
[21:12] <synack_> even a game like quakelive can lead to an exploited system
[21:12] <synack_> lol
[21:12] <synack_> vossen:
[21:12] <synack_> i can yes
[21:12] <synack_> and i will try that idea
[21:12] <FloodBot1> synack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <Guest51439> what was that sudo command again?
[21:13] <synack_> ah sorry for the flooding, i have a bad habit of using enter as punctuation in other channels , but vossen that is a good idea and i will try to make an image in VMware for sure, from inside the windows OS
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> synack_: you can run quakelive on Ubuntu :)
[21:14] <synack_> ActionParsnip: - I know, goobye windows! :)
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest51439: the sudo command is:  sudo
[21:15] <Simkin> sudo
[21:15] <synack_> rofl
[21:15] <synack_> man sudo
[21:16] <Guest51439> sorry i had a couple probs earlier(i'm a super linux newb). I asked if anyone could help me get my wireless  working on my dell inspiron mini 1012
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest51439: or gksudo for GUI apps, like gedit
[21:16] <alusion_> Hello I am creating a bootable usb stick on ubuntu to download and reinstall ubuntu with, what should I format the thumbdrive to?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Guest51439: what wifi chip?
[21:17] <sideup66> hi folks
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network     you will see Product:   for the wifi, what is the chip?
[21:17] <sideup66> hello again evil resistence
[21:17] <sideup66> resistance i mean
[21:17] <^TaCo^> pci sysfs
[21:17] <sideup66> back with more ? s as im continueing along my path to linux uber-mastery and raid 1 dom
[21:17] <JessicaW> alusion_: use the livecd and click try ubuntu. there's a utility called startup disk creator. It will take care of it for you.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: your PCI bus is slow, give it time
[21:17] <sideup66> i configured my vm with a working raid and cracked the automount issue with /etc/fstab modificatiions
[21:18] <sideup66> works fine there and samba seems happy
[21:18] <WeKillTheBat> not sure how this works.
[21:18] <sideup66> but now i tried to simulate a sick raid by powering off the vm and putting one of the drives under
[21:18] <^TaCo^> stupid short bus
[21:18] <sideup66> i booted and of course am warned about how the raid is now degradeded, thats fine but being a home server I would want the machine to run anyway, so my question is how to configure tye system to do that
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: well, just not very wide, or fast
[21:19] <sideup66> if anyone can help it would be appreciated
[21:19] <Simkin> sideup66: i have no idea why ubuntu won't boot off a degraded array but it bugs me too
[21:19] <Simkin> sideup66: other distros just start up, as they should
[21:20] <sideup66> simkin: is there a way to configure it to do that
[21:20] <Simkin> sideup66: if you find an answer please pm me if i'm not around
[21:21] <^TaCo^> product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[21:21] <^TaCo^> broadcom
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[21:21] <sideup66> simkin: will do
[21:22] <^TaCo^> is '!broadcom' a trigger?
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> ^TaCo^: it makes ubottu give the link you need
[21:23] <^TaCo^> !trigger
[21:23] <sideup66> ! reliableraid
[21:23] <^TaCo^> thank you
[21:23] <^TaCo^> hahah
[21:23] <sideup66> !reliableraid
[21:23] <^TaCo^> !broadcom
[21:24] <IntuitiveNipple> sideup66: Simkin see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid
[21:24] <newby> !ubottu
[21:24] <sideup66> nipple, i was thinking of trying that
[21:24] <IntuitiveNipple> sideup66: It describes all the reasons why degraded RAID doesn't happen
[21:25] <vossen> I have a VIA EPIA ML8000 motherboard (old and phased out). When trying to boot up the Ubuntu Server installer it gives me an error saying, "graphics initialisation failed" "Error setting up gfxboot". I have been searching Google for hours and I have seen solutions like, "type help and install will continue" and "increase vga memory" but none of these help. I have been trying all versions since Ubuntu Server 10.04 upto 12.04, all versions does it and I have ch
[21:25] <sideup66> does it have a switch to force it to work, and note my raid isnt booting
[21:25] <sideup66> its a non boot, its meant to hold the data
[21:25] <riyonuk> Okay, installed Ubuntu desktop into virtual box. It's set to NAT. Still cannot ssh into t.
[21:25] <sideup66> a whole other drive is dedicated to boot
[21:25] <riyonuk> I'm about to give up on linux, haha. This just isn't working for me D;
[21:26] <newby> vossem idk i always need nomodeset param set with nvidia maybe it could help u 2?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> riyonuk: set the network to bridged
[21:26] <Boohbah> bridged, yes
[21:26] <riyonuk> to my wifi? http://cl.ly/2X2a0x0k2w3t2w071J1L
[21:26] <Tm0> Okay everyone, I need a hand, anyone know if this following link will activate Nvidia proprietary drivers, or just install it? http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/10/how-to-install-latest-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[21:27] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: your nick always reminds me of Super Mario Bros 2 where they pull turnips out of the ground :)
[21:27] <alusion_> Woah have you guys seen the ubuntu tablet??
[21:27] <vossen> newby: Maybe, how can I set that upon boot of the installer?
[21:27] <Sidewinder> !nomodeset | vossen
[21:27] <krababbel> Tm0: do you have 11.10?
[21:28] <newby> vossen if you press f2 right after the bios tries to start grub you can choose params in a gui (lang and with f6 you can check the params)
[21:28] <sideup66> nipple was this bug fixed in 12.04 (which the system will run)
[21:28] <Tm0> @Krababbel I have 12.04, was hoping the logic carried over.
[21:28] <newby> vossen its the menu in wich you choose to try/install/memcheck
[21:28] <sw0rdfish> heya guys
[21:28] <krababbel> Tm0: open system settins, there is additional drivers there
[21:29] <newby> vossen on installation CD/thumbdrive of course i mean
[21:29] <Tm0> @Krababbel I don't have access to the desktop because the lack of the Nvidia driver. Novou doesn't support my card.
[21:29] <IntuitiveNipple> sideone: I'm not sure, I'd have to degrade one of the drives on my gateway's boot array to find out!
[21:29] <newby> tm0: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:29] <`Korvin> I have a system package that failed to install
[21:29] <IntuitiveNipple> oops
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> riyonuk: wait, you only JUST install Ubuntu in a virtualbox and it didn't work as expected immediately and you are going to give up on it. Is that right?
[21:29] <`Korvin> due to dependencies
[21:29] <IntuitiveNipple> sideup66: : I'm not sure, I'd have to degrade one of the drives on my gateway's boot array to find out!
[21:29] <`Korvin> how do I get rid of it
[21:29] <vossen> newby: Thank you,I will try that.
[21:30] <sideup66> intuitive: ok!
[21:30] <Tm0> @newby will that make it active though? I have to do it from Rescue mode's Root shell
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> `Korvin: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:30] <krababbel> Tm0: install 'apt get install nvidia-current'
[21:30] <shaneo> could someone please assist me with setting up ssl trackers with transmission
[21:30] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how can I set WPA password for WLAN
[21:30] <sw0rdfish> via the terminal?
[21:30] <sideup66> intuitive this is a test so basically i broke the raid deliberately, cause well the rest of the fam knows nothing on computers so things need to work til i get down there to make sure the lights are on and everyones home
[21:30] <riyonuk> ActionParsnip: lol, I've been working on this for a week now. openssh-server and client are installed. changing nat/brige, vmware/virtualbox does nothing
[21:30] <vossen> newby: I am just pretty sure that my launch fails already before that screen, but I will check again.
[21:31] <newby> Tm0 hmm i dont know but i guess yes
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> riyonuk: did you ask in #vbox at all?
[21:31] <krababbel> tm0 you could try blacklisting the nv module to get to a desktop
[21:31] <riyonuk> Nope, but I will. THanks!
[21:31] <newby> vossen: idk i have to admit i dont really understand your problem, i just wanted you to know that option
[21:32] <vossen> newby: Thank you then, I will try. :)
[21:32] <rymate1234> The ubuntu font is awesome :D
[21:32] <BluesKaj> Tm0, after installing the nvidia-current driver , do , sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how can I set WPA password for WLAN
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> via the terminal?
[21:32] <Tm0> @newby Console throws errors "Not using locking for read only file /var/lib/dpkg/lock/ <---- seems Root doesn't have root doesn't have root access :/
[21:33] <auronandace> rymate1234: apart from lowercase L, it looks like 1 to me
[21:33] <Tm0> @BluesKaJ the command throws errors.
[21:33] <krababbel> Tm0: did you use sudo?
[21:33] <Tm0> @Krababbel I'm using the Root console in the Rescue option at grub
[21:34] <aboSamoor> why update-initramfs generate md arrays UUIDS different than the one I can get using /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[21:34] <krababbel> Tm0: not sure, if you need root there, sorry
[21:34] <halakar> hey guise.  how about a "show desktop" icon?
[21:34] <rymate1234> l
[21:34] <rymate1234> Lowercase l looks like an l to me
[21:34] <Tm0> @Krababbel It's okay don't worry ;)
[21:35] <rakshasa> How do I install the Inel Linux Graphics 12.02, my kernell is already upgraded to the most compatible version
[21:35] <rymate1234> allthough that might be cuz my irc is ubuntu mono
[21:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0 try to find out what has the lock: fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: how do you mean 'ubuntu mono'?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[21:35] <szerzetes_> hi! do somebody help for me in JSF 2.0, paramter pass?
[21:35] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple How does one do that?
[21:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock "
[21:36] <rymate1234> the ubuntu monospaced font
[21:36] <thirsty> hi, folks. what's the fastest/easiest way for linux to compare to files and tell me the differences?
[21:36] <rakshasa> szerzetes maybe I can
[21:36] <sw0rdfish> !wireless
[21:37] <BluesKaj> Tm0, did you try the "repair broken packages" option in the recovery dialog
[21:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[21:37] <IntuitiveNipple> thirsty: Are they text files? if so, diff -Nu file1 file2
[21:37] <thirsty> compare to files [21:37] <thirsty> IntuitiveNipple: yes, text (html)
[21:37] <szerzetes_> rakshasa, can we write in private?
[21:37] <thirsty> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[21:37] <chalcedony> :)
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: you can change the font in most clients....
[21:37] <thirsty> is there an online website that does this?
[21:37] <Tm0> @BlueKaj Yes to no avail
[21:37] <rakshasa> yes
[21:37] <chalcedony> good to see you ActionParsnip :))
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[21:38] <chalcedony> :)
[21:38] <rymate1234> I know
[21:38] <newby> Tm0, maybe you also want to install nvidia-current libvdpau1 vdpau-va-driver vdpauinfo libva1 libva-x11-1 	vainfo 	gstreamer0.10-vaapi   and you can load it manually via "sudo modprobe -r nouveau" and then "modprobe nvidia" "sudo service lightdm restart"
[21:38] <undercoverapple> Boohbah: Yes I did try Libre Office Calc already to no avail.
[21:38] <rymate1234> I changed it to ubuntu mono
[21:38] <rymate1234> cuz I like it
[21:38] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple No dialog appears after I run that command. I assume I'm to change 'fuser" to root or something?"
[21:38] <Ste> !lista
[21:38] <Boohbah> undercoverapple: perhaps you can export the file in another format?
[21:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: woooa .. hang on ... recovery console? Have you remounted / read-write?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> Tm0, no need for @ on irc , just use the nick
[21:38] <sw0rdfish> ActionParsnip, can you plz point me to a guide for setting WEP key for WLAN via terminal?
[21:38] <zerwas> Is it possible to open the messaging menu with gdbus?
[21:38] <undercoverapple> Boohbah: Not an option unfortunately.
[21:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: no, that is the command. If you get no result it is not finding any processes using that file
[21:39] <auronandace> !wep | sw0rdfish
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> sw0rdfish: man iwconfig      or install wicd
[21:39] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Crap. This I didn't do! It even asked me.. Is it easier to reboot and remount or is there an easy command to do so without having to remember which harddrive it is?
[21:39] <newby> Tm0 maybe do a normal boot and then go to tty1 with str alt f1
[21:40] <Tm0> I can't get into normal boots newby
[21:40] <chalcedony> my husband wants to replace all the stuff we downloaded and configured for his Brother printer.. which still isn't working with his Ubuntu 10.10.. is there a handy dandy delete this program/file/directory in Ubuntu? it's got recursive directories & rm Directory doesn't work for me.
[21:40] <newby> Tm0 why?
[21:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Try mount -o remount,rw /
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: did you grab the driver debs from the brother site?
[21:40] <Tm0> BluesKaj I'm just so used to tagging people
[21:41] <auronandace> !10.10 | chalcedony
[21:41] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, we did, and have been corresponding with them.
[21:41] <halakar> hey guise.  how about a "show desktop" icon?  is there one available?
[21:41] <mcphail> chalcedony: rm -rf
[21:41] <chalcedony> auronandace, thanks we have a new hard drive being shipped.. waiting for it
[21:41] <snap_> hey, i have a package installed from a ppa and synaptic says it is up to date, but the ppa page shows a newer version. any way to figure out what is going on?
[21:42] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple That did that tick, installing the drivers now
[21:42] <chalcedony> mcphail, that won't delete everything?!
[21:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Yay! :)
[21:42] <mcphail> chalcedony: rm -rf /path/to/directory will recursively delte from there. rm -rf / deletes _everything_
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> chalcedony: i'd upgrade to precise and retry (clean install)
[21:43] <kennyngston> does anyone know how to completely mute speakers while headphones still function, and meanwhile remove the auto detect headshet thingy?
[21:43] <halakar> hey guys.  i'm wondering if i can add something to the unity "launcher" or whatever it is that I can click on and it will minimize all windows
[21:43] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Wait, need to connect to the internet, I think I have that command dhclient3 eth1 right?
[21:43] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, i told him to wait a few days, upgrade and then try, he wants to print NOW. (he uses printed pages to communicate (remember he can't talk)
[21:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Possibly... or you can try service network-manager start (if everything is prepared)
[21:44] <sw0rdfish> ActionParsnip, ohhh
[21:45] <dry_> hi. my web cam is not detected on ubuntu 11.10. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977550 is there any way I could fix it?
[21:46] <stilia-johny> hi
[21:46] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It doesn't recongnize that service
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> dry_: does it show in cheese?
[21:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: OK go with dhclient
[21:47] <chalcedony> is there a different printer setup thing besides cups?
[21:47] <dry_> ActionParsnip: Cheese: "cheese-window.vala:1256: Error: No camera found"
[21:47] <BluesKaj> Tm0, or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:48] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It doesn't find the package. I'm guessing I have to specify a repo in /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> dry_: run: lsusb   one line will give an ID for the device, use that to find guides
[21:48] <BluesKaj> it throw a complaint , but it should connect, Tm0
[21:49] <dry_> AcidRain2012:  web cam: 0x041e:0x4045+0x4048 Creative Live
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> dry_: cool, use the web to find guides :)
[21:49] <dry_> AcidRain2012:  sry
[21:49] <Tm0> BluesKaj dhclient eth1 got it to connect
[21:49] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: what package are you after? I only came in with the dpkg lock issue :)
[21:49] <BluesKaj> Tm0, good
[21:50] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple the nvidia-current
[21:50] <dry_> ActionParsnip:  found guides - useless. Last action related: ov51x "404 Not Found"
[21:50] <ongar> I am looking for a way to use my web cam in ubuntu 12.04, are there any programs I can use...like paltalk
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ongar: empathy, pidgin
[21:50] <ongar> thank you
[21:51] <ongar> also I would like to make a complete DVD of my current system in case I crash, any ideas would be great
[21:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: OK, you need to ensure the restricted repo is enabled. look in /etc/apt/apt.sources.d/
[21:51] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It must be, cowsay installed fine
[21:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: and /etc/apt/apt.sources.list
[21:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Try apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> dry_: the output you gave isn't from lsusb, it has 2 parts only
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> ActionParsnip, ok thanks and I did do man iwconfig before I asked..., but I wasn't sure what i was looking for
[21:53] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: is /etc/apt/apt.sources.list actually a file?  sources.list i've seen.
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> can you plz tell me? i don't have time to look through it all
[21:53] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Yup it's restricted. Gonna change it now.
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> I can search it for what I want though.
[21:53] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: you're correct and I'm tired :p
[21:53] <zykotic10> !info wicd-curses | sw0rdfish
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> sw0rdfish: or you can use /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:54] <antnash> Hey guys. Where do I look to find out why my system is beeping at me every 7 seconds?
[21:54] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Sources.list.d is an empty file.
[21:54] <dry_> ActionParsnip:  web cam Creative Live: [audio: 0x041e:0x4045] [video:0x041e:0x4048]
[21:55] <Zungo> hello, why monitor goes out of range when booting?
[21:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: I have the Precise package "nvidia-current-updates" (v295.49 vs nvidia-current v295.40)
[21:55] <Zungo> i can't see anything until ubuntu boots
[21:55] <Zungo> i want to boot fedora also
[21:55] <Zungo> too bad kernel does not change resolution
[21:55] <BluesKaj> Tm0,  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a directory that usually contains additional optional repositories if you added some. Otherwise, the standard Ubuntu repos are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:55] <Zungo> anyone?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: you can set the res in /etc/default/grub
[21:56] <Zungo> just upgraded to precise
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Zungo: Uncomment GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 in /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[21:56] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: thanks, i wonder why monitor goes out of range
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: because you are using proprietary driver that doesn'
[21:56] <Zungo> fedora's grub shows properly, with ubuntu grub i got problems
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> doesn't load fast enough
[21:56] <Zungo> also
[21:57] <Zungo> this is a ati radeon xpress 200
[21:57] <scenic> higuys, i'm trying to use a firewire video grabbing card
[21:57] <scenic> on 12.04
[21:57] <Zungo> works great in fedora... in ubuntu it just sucks
[21:57] <siscor1> Hi!
[21:57] <Zungo> ActionParsnip
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: then set the res in /etc/default/grub   and run:  sudo update-grub
[21:57] <Zungo> Ok
[21:57] <scenic> but 12.04 doesn't use raw1394 and libavc1394 no more
[21:57] <BlueEagle> !enter | scenic
[21:57] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Oh. Now I see the file. More familiar. Just uncommenting the first lines?
[21:57] <siscor1> Anybody has tried to install an ASUS Tiger 3-in-1 ????
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: the file may be different in fedora, or they may have the fb driver installed and told to run during bot, so many different tings can exist
[21:58] <BlueEagle> !anyone | siscor1
[21:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: If apt-cache policy nvidia-current shows possible candidates, then the repo is in the sources.list. Therefore it may be the version of nvidua-current has changed since the local list was fetched. Did you do an "apt-get update" before trying apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[21:58] <scenic> so it seems /dev/fw0 doesn't always work..
[21:59] <scenic> someone familiar with that matter?
[21:59] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: how do i test the grub tune?
[21:59] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It showed it as unistalled and available in the restricted repo
[21:59] <Zungo> ActionParsnip}
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: all I can think is reboot, obviously you need to uncomment the line
[22:00] <antnash> Hey guys. Could the constant beeping I have be because I need a bigger power supply? I've got (an admittedly cheap) 500W unit driving an Intel E6600, a 512Mb geforce card and 4 HDDs. Need a bigger one?
[22:00] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: ok, im done, generating grub and rebooting
[22:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: that means it can 'see' the restricted repo since it must have fetched the restricted Packages list. try apt-get update - unless you can see that the "restricted" repo is commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:00] <newby> What for is the "Additional restricted drivers" in system settings?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Zungo: Test in what way? Note also that the grub tone will only work if your PC has a pcspkr (which may simply be a small speaker within the case, or may be part of your sound card and output via your connected normal speakers depending on the hardware).
[22:00] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: also, why kernel does not autodetect resolution?
[22:01] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple "#" stills counts as commenting correct? Ifso it's the first line in the file and it's commented out.
[22:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: correct, anything after a # is a comment
[22:01] <BlueEagle> newby: Some vendors release non-open-source drivers. Activating the setting will allow you to install those.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: it tries, its udev that detects it, not the kernel
[22:01] <Zungo> in fedora, autodetect kernel resoultion works in fedora....
[22:01] <Mycro> Hi.
[22:01] <Zungo> idk, how i can check?
[22:02] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: idk what could be
[22:02] <BluesKaj> scenic, open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-firewire.conf ..comment the blacklists there with # in front , or delete , with root permissions
[22:02] <nicklas_> hello, how much can you change the looks of unity? like, can yuo get a traditional menu icon, can you get workspace switcher in panel, and can you remove the left side panel?
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Zungo: What graphics card do you have?
[22:02] <scenic> BluesKaj, lemme try that
[22:02] <newby> BlueEagle, i installed nvidia-current but the utility keeps lying about "there are not proprietary drivers in use"???
[22:02] <scenic> 1sec
[22:02] <Zungo> Jordan_U: ati radeon xpress 200: radeon drivers work fine in fedora
[22:02] <BlueEagle> newby: Are the drivers being used?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: its quite trivial, i wouldn't sweat it
[22:02] <newby> BlueEagle, yes
[22:03] <BlueEagle> newby: Then you should check !bugs
[22:03] <BlueEagle> !bugs > newby
[22:03] <Zungo> idk, tring radeon driver here made wierd stuff.... works great in fedora....
[22:03] <scenic> BluesKaj, do i need to restart?
[22:03] <Zungo> ...}
[22:03] <vossen> newby: If you want to understand my issue better, take a look at this. http://youtu.be/4hVEuwNQVv8
[22:03] <BluesKaj>  scenic , maybe a relogin , not sure
[22:04] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple After uncommenting it suggested I ran apt-get update I guess it's needed
[22:04] <Zungo> ... guys?
[22:04] <newby> BlueEagle, did i do sth wrong when i just installed in via cmd line apt-get install nvidia-current?? i mean what installation way would this util expect?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: mines the same on my nvidia gpu system but i couldn't care less. The system boots
[22:05] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: yeah, but, since i first installed ubuntu i had troubles with it, fedora worked great since installed
[22:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: apt-get update fetches the latest Packages lists from the archives
[22:05] <dalton2345> hello, could natty 64 bit be a problem with wireless connection, I had natty 32bit and everything was perfect
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: yes, you keep saying....
[22:05] <nicklas_> hrrm? noone?
[22:05] <BlueEagle> newby: No, you have already determined that the drivers are in use, so therefore the issue is with the application saying that the drivers are in use. Just out of curiousity; how did you verify that the drivers were in use?
[22:06] <Zungo> well. what i can do about it?
[22:06] <newby> BlueEagle, i loaded them manually via modprobe verified via lsmod and use  gnome-shell and cinnamon with them
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: could report a bug
[22:07] <BlueEagle> newby: Well there you go. If it works then it works. Just file the bug on the software saying they are not in use.
[22:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: have you tried adding "nomodeset" to the grub linux boot cmdline?
[22:07] <Zungo> IntuitiveNipple: no, why i would need it?
[22:08] <Zungo> because i want working graphics -.-
[22:08] <dalton2345> is there problems with ubuntu 64 bit versions?
[22:08] <jrib> dalton2345: your question is too vague.  Are *you* having a specific problem?
[22:08] <GRMrGecko> Booting Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 ppc install cd on my PowerMac G4, it goes black after displaying the open firmware initialization screen.
[22:09] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple This still doesn't make the package visiable. to the installer.
[22:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: on mine I have this in /etc/default/grub
[22:09] <BlueEagle> dalton2345: Are you experiencing any problems with it? Did you check !bugs ?
[22:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: # for plymouth splash on nvidia add: video=uvesafb:mode_option='1024x768-32',mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[22:09] <BlueEagle> !bugs | dalton2345
[22:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: show me in a pastebin what "apt-cache policy nvidia-current && apt-get install nvidia-current" does
[22:10] <Tm0> I can't connect VIA SSH nor can I pastebin. The best I could do is a cellphone shot if that's okay.
[22:10] <Zungo> IntuitiveNipple: dude, im using ati radeon xpress 200 -.-
[22:10] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: ahh ok ... can you type the jist of the messages for me?
[22:10] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple This I can do
[22:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: sorry, thought I saw someone mentioning nvidia ... same solution can help if you want graphics splash for grub/plymouth
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: the resolution bit in the grub file amy just do it, have yyou rebooted yet?
[22:11] <AndreeeCZ> hi. I have this problem installing xubuntu 11.10 (same with newest). Installing via usb flash, but when I choose any option, it does nothing and gives me a blinking cursor only. Would anyone help pls?
[22:12] <IntuitiveNipple> ^^^^ what ActionParsnip said
[22:12] <Zungo> IntuitiveNipple: it was ActionParsnip's card
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> AndreeeCZ: what video chip do you use?
[22:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: haha! tiredness is a killer
[22:12] <nicklas_> hello?
[22:12] <dalton2345> yes i have problems with internet, connection is very slow
[22:12] <pfifo> nicklas_, hi
[22:12] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: no, im chatting with the target system...
[22:12] <nicklas_> so noone really knows the answer to my question?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: don't you think you should......
[22:13] <pfifo> nicklas_, ask it again
[22:13] <Zungo> nicklas_: what's ur question...
[22:13] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It used to tell me the package name and that it was in restricted, now it does not do so.
[22:13] <nicklas_> maybe noone even sees my question at all, soo flooded here
[22:13] <Zungo> nevermind, will reconnect back after!
[22:13] <Zungo> byes
[22:13] <nicklas_> how much can you change the looks of unity? like, can yuo get a traditional menu icon, can you get workspace switcher in panel, and can you remove the left side panel?
[22:13] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: seems like the problematic GMA somthing
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: you  can't remove the left panel, you could set it to autohide and set the sensitivity really low
[22:13] <pfifo> nicklas_, There was just a huge lag I noticed, might have gotten lost
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> AndreeeCZ: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[22:14] <geck0> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04.  How would I go about disable/enable of the WINDOWS key in the terminal?  Thanks.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: the workspace switcher is default in unity..
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> geck0: it's called Mod4 or SuperL in Linux
[22:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: long shot but how about trying "apt-get install pastebinit" then, if it is installed, you can show us what is going on directly from the bad puppy PC
[22:15] <nicklas_> using sabayon and gentoo, but tired of all the work in those dists, so thinking of going back to easy to use dists, and ubuntu land is the choice for me, but need to know if you can change looks in unity first before i choose ubunt, kubuntu or xubuntu
[22:15] <nicklas_> ActionParsnip: ok
[22:15] <geck0> ActionParsnip, I take it that's a clue. :)  So I'll have to google around looking for those clues?
[22:15] <nicklas_> pfifo: ok
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[22:15] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple That installed
[22:15] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: no difference
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> geck0: could set the win key to do nothing :)
[22:16] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: i used .... quiet persistent nomodeset
[22:16] <nicklas_> i want a panel on top, with menu and workspace switcher atleast, and docky at bottom
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> AndreeeCZ: or the safemodevga option
[22:16] <nicklas_> and tired of kde, so guess it will have to be xfce then
[22:16] <pfifo> nicklas_, IMHO unity is crap, if you are a power user investigate gnome3/xubuntu/lubuntu
[22:16] <scenic> BluesKaj, doesn't seem to have done the trick...
[22:16] <geck0> ActionParsnip, well its handy for unity, but it interferes with Urban Terror....and I think you know now where my priorities lie. :)  Thanks tho..google hit something with super l.
[22:16] <scenic> and i did restart
[22:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: OK, now try this: apt-cache policy nvidia-current | pastebinit
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: or LXDE, or openbox / fluxbox on it's own, or awesome, or flwm
[22:16] <fhuicrhecuierhcu> Simple question. Is there any way to burn a disc in an Ubuntu session from a Live CD, if the drive with the Live CD is the only CD/DVD drive in the system?
[22:17] <Zungo> ook, im on my fedora box
[22:17] <Zungo> this is much different
[22:17] <Zungo> also
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: IRCing as root isn't wise
[22:17] <Zungo> anyone knows how i can switch grubs?
[22:17] <fhuicrhecuierhcu> It goes all wonky when I eject the Live CD during the session. Is there no way to simply load the entire CD in memory (I have 4GB RAM) and continue with that so I can insert a different CD?
[22:17] <nicklas_> ive used the boxes and ratpoison, awesome etcetera, want a gui de
[22:17] <geck0> fhuicrhecuierhcu, you can try loading live ubuntu to RAM then eject.
[22:17] <Zungo> because i been using fedora one
[22:17] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: no difference :). I would just like to enter the rescue mode, that would help me alot.
[22:18] <fhuicrhecuierhcu> geck0; ah, wonderful. How do I do that?
[22:18] <Zungo> and now upgrade to precise had put ubuntu's grub
[22:18] <Zungo> ...
[22:18] <nicklas_> is there a lubuntu cahnnel?
[22:18] <Zungo> guys=?
[22:18] <Zungo> nicklas_: yeah
[22:18] <pfifo> nicklas_, xubuntu is almost identical to old gnome2
[22:18] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: but when i select Help, i see dots being written, lots of them, fast.
[22:18] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple http://paste.ubuntu.com/980704/ here you go sir
[22:18] <kayve> I'm having issues with my Classic Gnome in Ubuntu 12.04
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> AndreeeCZ: add the boot option:  vga=771
[22:18] <pfifo> !lubuntu | nicklas_
[22:19] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: no difference
[22:19] <Guest555> im trying to use hdparm to adjust the IO_support settings of an external hdd however im getting the following error: HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. Anyone advise what im doing wrong?
[22:19] <Zungo> err, some help? ubuntu installation is bad... what i can do to update it?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> AndreeeCZ: could try the alternate ISO, it installs in text mode
[22:19] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple would  you like a vi of my sources file?
[22:19] <pfifo> Zungo, reinstall
[22:19] <Zungo> pfifo: dude... why?
[22:19] <sw0rdfish> wow ActionParsnip I didn't know that (wicd) was the solution for the WLAN problem on 12.04 .... now all I gotta do is find a guide to make it my default network manager an stick it to the tray
[22:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: That's much better.. OK, I checked and the package IS on the archive server... so now do for me "apt-get install nvidia-current | pastebinit"
[22:20] <scenic> BluesKaj, i'm trying to view my camera via vlc, and i get
[22:20] <pfifo> Zungo, well, why not?
[22:20] <AndreeeCZ> ActionParsnip: i AM running from alternate CD. But when i select ANY option, i end up with blinking cursor..
[22:20] <BlueEagle> dalton2345: And you believe this to be caused by Ubuntu, why?
[22:20] <scenic> [0x7fcff00029a8] access_dv access error: raw1394 - failed to set set port: Invalid argument.access_dv access error: failed to open a Firewire (IEEE1394) connection
[22:20] <pfifo> Zungo, fresh install
[22:20] <Zungo> im just having serious resoultion iusses..... in ubuntu installation:
[22:20] <Zungo> pfifo: wtf,
[22:20] <ichbinder> hello. A question: I want to back up my whole home. The .wine folder is origianlly 11G huge. Now, when I did "$ cp -rL --preserve=all .* /mnt/backup" in my home, this folder grew up to over 220 GB. How could that happen and what did I do wrong?
[22:20]  * Zungo sets reinstall as last resort
[22:20] <fhuicrhecuierhcu> Ah, never mind. It's probably faster to just install Ubuntu and then use the installation to burn
[22:21] <pfifo> Zungo, what exactly is the problem?
[22:21] <geck0> ichbinder, consider tar.gz instead
[22:21] <Zungo> pfifo: kernel resolution is not autodetect like in fedora
[22:21] <BlueEagle> ichbinder: Just out of curiousity; how did you determine the size to 11GB to begin with?
[22:21] <Zungo> looks like something wrong with driver idk,
[22:21] <BlueEagle> ichbinder: ..and did you get the T-shirt to prove it? :)
[22:22] <ichbinder> geck0: the original disk has not enough space to tar it there... :-/
[22:22] <Zungo> the *same* driver works great in fedora
[22:22] <Zungo> might be because idk... wrong?
[22:22] <OerHeks> Zungo fedora/gnome2 ?
[22:22] <geck0> ichbinder, external HDD/thumb drive?  You attempted to copy it somewhere so it's obvious you have space somewhere.....
[22:22] <Zungo> OerHeks: nope, fedora 16: gnome3
[22:22] <geck0> You can .tar to different place you know
[22:22] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple wouldn't i need to add a "y" in there somewhere else it'd hang forever?
[22:22] <ichbinder> BlueEagle: did that with "$ du --max-depth=0 -h"... I know that du is not the best way to do such things, but... I considered it okay. :-/
[22:22] <dalton2345> BlueEagle, not ubuntu, but the 64 bit version
[22:22]  * Zungo is banned from #fedora
[22:23] <pfifo> Zungo, ok, so Debian isnt Fedora, can you dive more details?
[22:23] <ichbinder> geck0: yeah, sure. So instead of doing a cp I should directly tar it to there?
[22:23] <geck0> ichbinder, yeah.. you want an example?
[22:23] <pfifo> give*
[22:23] <BlueEagle> dalton2345: I have Ubuntu 64-bit and my connection is peachy. :)
[22:23] <baki80> man irssi
[22:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Good point Sherlock!
[22:23] <mcphail> ichbinder: is there a link loop?
[22:23] <ichbinder> geck0: naw, think I can do that
[22:23] <baki80> hi all :)
[22:23] <geck0> ichbinder, if you get stuck google tar home directory.. tons of examples
[22:24] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple apt-get install nvidia-current -y | pastebinit right?
[22:24] <ichbinder> mcphail: maybe, not sure. It's a whine folder, so it's very well possible that something is linked to somewhere...
[22:24] <dalton2345> BlueEagle, hehe thx for telling me ;)
[22:24] <Zungo> pfifo: well, for me, it looks like grub itself goes out of range without forcing 640 resolution, kernel doesn't change resolution like in fedora... idk what else
[22:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: yes
[22:24] <ichbinder> geck0: yeah, thanks! I will.
[22:24] <mcphail> ichbinder: there will probably be a link to your $HOME which will recurse back into .wine/
[22:24] <baki80> exit
[22:25] <pfifo> Zungo, your banned from fedora cause your running irc as root
[22:25] <baki80> join # ubuntu
[22:25] <Zungo> pfifo: lol
[22:25] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple apt-get install nvidia-current -y | pastebinit Is hanging still.
[22:25] <geck0> Zungo, bad bad idea btw.
[22:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Grrrrr
[22:25] <ichbinder> mcphail: hm... I canceled the copying at some point... at that point I received prompts in the shell on whether I want to overwrite files in this wine folder on the destination...
[22:25] <ichbinder> mcphail: so I guess you are right.
[22:26] <BlueEagle> dalton2345: You're welcome. Now, if you are experiencing a slow network link there are ways to test why. First you should determine if the issue is bandwidth or latency related. Then you should map out the entire link and check obvious bottle necks. It also helps to have a second system to test with.
[22:26] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Without it it's seeming to install though.
[22:26] <Zungo> well... what can i do? cuz ubuntu installation is a big fail in graphics terms
[22:26] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Pastebin is causing the hanging.
[22:26] <mcphail> ichbinder: have you considered a more automated backup solution such as rsnapshot?
[22:26] <GRMrGecko> How do I install Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 on a PowerMac G4?
[22:26] <pfifo> Zungo, resolution issues are pretty easy to deal with, write your own xorg.conf :)
[22:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: OK ... do this: apt-get install nvidia-current | tee /tmp/install.log && cat /tmp/install.log | pastebinit
[22:26] <Zungo> pfifo: it's not X, it's the system
[22:26] <ichbinder> geck0: so, to be honest: I started a tar process... but it to sooo freaking long as the home in total is about 600GB, I canceled and wanted to copy parts of my home first, like all hidden files and folders. So I could continue later on... that's why I switched to cp.
[22:27] <pfifo> Zungo, so your un happy with the consoles resolution?
[22:27] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple The driving is still installing on it's own, should I just let it finish?
[22:27] <ichbinder> mcphail: hm, it's only a one time "backup" as I need to clear the whole disk drive.... it's a raid 5 and all and I want to change stuff etc
[22:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Yes!
[22:27] <Zungo> grub goes out of range if not force 640, kernel doesn't auto change resolution
[22:27] <Zungo> in fedora: autodetect works
[22:28] <Zungo> im now using irssi in 1280x1024....
[22:28] <Zungo> in ubuntu
[22:28] <Zungo> only 640x480 i think
[22:28] <Simkin> lol
[22:28] <Simkin> isn't irssi text only?
[22:28] <Zungo> pfifo: well, what can i do then?
[22:28] <Simkin> what are you doing.
[22:28] <ichbinder> mcphail:  I started a tar process... but it took sooo freaking long as the home in total is about 600GB, I canceled and wanted to copy parts of my home first, like all hidden files and folders. So I could continue later on... that's why I switched to cp.
[22:28] <Zungo> Simkin: yeah, im running in console+
[22:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Zungo: It may be to do with which if any framebuffer drivers are being loaded?
[22:28] <Zungo> IntuitiveNipple: ugh, idk
[22:28] <pfifo> Zungo, switch to using gui tools
[22:28] <zaitzev> hi guys
[22:29] <Simkin> ichbinder: why nt jusst use rsync
[22:29] <dalton2345> BlueEagle, thx... i think i found a solution
[22:29] <Simkin> ichbinder: you can run it, keep working, and rn it later to just copy what changed since last 'backup'
[22:29] <Zungo> umm, just, how i get working radeon driver in ubuntu?
[22:29] <Zungo> looks like it works badly -.-
[22:29] <mcphail> ichbinder: ok. Good luck. But I'd suggest you check out a more robust backup solution if you have that amount of data. And, of course, RAID is not backup
[22:29] <pfifo> !radeon
[22:29] <pfifo> ^ Zungo
[22:29] <Zungo> also, any fedora equivalent for 'update-grub' command?
[22:30] <BlueEagle> dalton2345: Good, laddy!
[22:30] <pfifo> Zungo, yeah, update-grub
[22:30] <Zungo> pfifo: nope, doesn't work
[22:30] <pfifo> Zungo, `sudo apt-get install grub-pc`
[22:30] <Zungo> not found
[22:30] <Zungo> pfifo: IT'S FEDORA, NOT UBUNTU
[22:31] <ichbinder> mcphail: yeah sure Raid is not backup. That wasn't the point. I need to move the data so I can split up the raid and change stuff. That's why I just want to copy my home to an external HDD and then, after installing a new linux and all, copy it back. And in best case, be able to do that in copying in multiple terms as I can't have it running for 10 hours or so
[22:31] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It's done! Now to make it the default I want to run "nvidia-xconfig" right?
[22:31] <pfifo> Zungo, ohh, ask in #fedora
[22:31] <ichbinder> Simkin: hm... somehow true. I might consider doing that. :)
[22:31] <ichbinder> thanks
[22:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: If you've installed nvidia-current it should be the default now. I leave X to auto-configure everything
[22:32] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple So reboot and hope?
[22:32] <mcphail> ichbinder: +1 rsync
[22:32] <Zungo> pfifo: dude, don't know im banned from there!? WTF
[22:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: I run the nvidia driver with dual screens and Twinview .... yes, reboot and good luck!
[22:32] <Simkin> ichbinder: also trivial to send the backup to another machine.
[22:32] <Guest555> im trying to use hdparm to adjust the IO_support settings of an external hdd however im getting the following error: HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. Anyone help?
[22:32] <Simkin> ichbinder: which is a pretty big bonus imho!
[22:33] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple I a similiar setup :P Twinview is what I need to do? (Later on of course, today I think I've "installed" enough.)
[22:33] <Simkin> Guest555: sounds like your drive doesn't support it.
[22:33] <ichbinder> Simkin, mcphail: ok, a question I long didn't dare to ask and might be able to search for... does rsync store the information on file differences somewhere and if so, where? somewhere on destination?
[22:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Yes, in nvidia-x-settings enable the 2nd screen by setting it from disabled to Twinview and then set its position relative to your primary screen
[22:34] <mcphail> ichbinder: it doesn't store diffs
[22:34] <Simkin> ichbinder: you can tell it to. but i dunno why you would want to.
[22:34] <kontagious> hello, when i updated my ubuntu my wireless stopped working. can someone help me out? thanks
[22:35] <NeedInterwebz> Hey guys, can anyone help me remedy a dns lookup failure?
[22:35] <ichbinder> mcphail, Simkin: so each time, it compares all files in dest with all files in source?
[22:35] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It started without a UI (TTY1).
[22:35] <rakshasa> Can anyone tell me how to install the Intel 12.02 graphics package, it contains support for the Intel HD graphics 3000 which I need
[22:35] <Simkin> ichbinder: yup
[22:35] <mcphail> ichbinder: it compares quick hashes of the files
[22:35] <Simkin> ichbinder: i have no idea how it does it so fast
[22:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: you mean after GRUB the screen was blank?
[22:36] <Simkin> ichbinder: but it does.
[22:36] <scenic> i'm looking for a solution to stream via internet from a firewire capture card, vlc not working, and google not helping.
[22:36] <JessicaW> Can anyone recommend a good backup program for server that's incremental and backs up on the fly? preferably the whole partition?
[22:36] <ichbinder> mcphail, Simkin: ah, ok. So with hashes... als wondered how it could be so fast, given the bottle neck of I/O and the number of hundreds of thousands of files
[22:36] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple I may just be the greatest idiot ever to live, please allow me two minutes to bash my head and check something.
[22:37] <mcphail> ichbinder: it is a clever piece of software
[22:37] <Guest555> thanks for replying simkin, im trying to enable 16bit (-c0) vs 32bit which is what it has been set to as default but it keeps throwing up that error
[22:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Oh I know that feeling about twice a day!
[22:37] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple I think I may have installed Ubuntu-USB instead of UbuntuDesktop
[22:37] <Gape> Hello, when gddrescue is used to backup a partition, it copies empty parts of it as well?
[22:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0 :O
[22:38] <mcphail> ichbinder: honestly - have a look at rsnapshot. It uses rsync to prepare incremental backups and hard-links them to save space.
[22:38] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple I may cry if that's the case.
[22:38] <Gape> I'm copying a 100GB partition where only 50GB is used and it looks like it's already at 70GB :/
[22:38] <ichbinder> mcphail: I should? even for a one time copy like this here?
[22:38] <rakshasa> Can anyone tell me how to install the Intel 12.02 graphics package, it contains support for the Intel HD graphics 3000 which I need, its really urgent since my graphics card is not detected thus I am unable to set monitor setting
[22:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: No reason for it not be the full desktop experience though, the USB installers run Live or install desktop
[22:39] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple I'm trying to "startx" and nothing is running.
[22:40] <mcphail> ichbinder: why not? Your 1 time copy might become a valuable backup strategy in the future. At the very least consider rsync
[22:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: do "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:40] <kontagious> hello, when i updated my ubuntu my wireless stopped working. can someone help me out? thanks
[22:40] <NeedInterwebz> Hey everyone, if anyone could help me with some network issues (they're probably simple for you guys) that would be greatly appreciated
[22:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: I am assuming you're using precise?
[22:40] <ichbinder> mcphail: I knew rsync before, just never considered it an offline backup tool like here... :-/
[22:40] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Explain your DNS failure
[22:40] <ichbinder> mcphail: and thanks, rsnapshot is new to me, I'll have a look!
[22:40] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Yes and one moment, just allowing root access
[22:41] <NeedInterwebz> Sure
[22:41] <mcphail> ichbinder: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/217
[22:41] <NeedInterwebz> Essentially there's a home network that I can connect to no trouble on my windows side
[22:41] <ksokhna> hi
[22:41] <JessicaW> Can anyone recommend a good backup program for server that's incremental and backs up on the fly? preferably the whole partition?
[22:41] <NeedInterwebz> but on ubuntu it has dns lookup failure, and I'm not really sure as to why
[22:42] <NeedInterwebz> and it's not the 12.04 update because I had wireless working on a different network after the update
[22:42] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: how is the Ubuntu PC connected to the local area network? Wired or Wireless?
[22:42] <NeedInterwebz> wireless
[22:42] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Service is not recognized. :/
[22:42] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Does the network manager applet (top right of the screen) list the WiFi network when the drop-down list appears after you click the icon?
[22:43] <NeedInterwebz> Yeah, and it says it's connected to it no problems
[22:43] <Gape> How would I easily backup whole partitions, but only the 'used' parts of it? I'm trying to backup my old windows/ubuntu installs as they don't boot anymore, I tried using ddrescue but for some reason it copies empty space as well. If i try to just copy, I get some errors about links.
[22:43] <kontagious> my network manager does not list wireless connections
[22:43] <mcphail> JessicaW: how "on-the-fly" do you need?
[22:43] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple At this point I'm assuming the problem is I don't have X or a WM/DE installed, I'm gonna quickly fix that
[22:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: I'm thinking you installed Ubuntu Server from the Alternate installer or the Minimal install - that would explain the missing GUI and so forth
[22:43] <ichbinder> mcphail: that article is nice! looks really convenient!
[22:43] <ichbinder> mcphail: thank you!!!
[22:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[22:43] <mcphail> ichbinder: good luck
[22:44] <zykotic10> IntuitiveNipple: server doesn't come with a GUI by default
[22:44] <JessicaW> mcphail: I'm trying to avoid shutting down the server. I know that's hard but, rsync flips out when you try to copy an entire 1.2tb partition.
[22:44] <IntuitiveNipple> zykotic10: And he ain't got one :D
[22:45] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Just checked for LAMP, nothing there so likely not server must not have selected anything... That command seems to be working. Thank you for all your help so far man! I really appreiate it! My UUB wasn't much help this time so this community was really welcoming and nice
[22:45] <mongo> Gape: ntfsclone will make a sparse image, but you need to make sure to use copy tools that understand sparse files or it will grow when you move it
[22:45] <mcphail> JessicaW: sorry - I haven't had any problems with rsync on large partitions but the largest I've used is 750GB
[22:45] <JessicaW> mcphail: I'm just not finding any decent alternatives. everything wants to you reboot and do it from livecd
[22:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: We all make these mistakes ... as long a we learn from them!
[22:45] <JessicaW> mcphail: I tried dd too.
[22:45] <mcphail> JessicaW: what "flipping out" happens?
[22:46] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Lesson learned. Always make sure my motherboard has onboard graphics. :P
[22:46] <JessicaW> mcphail: I get all sorts of errors. even when I run as root.
[22:46] <kontagious> hello, when i updated my ubuntu my wireless stopped working. can someone help me out? thanks
[22:46] <scenic> my firewire card is recognized by my 12.04, but  i can't see any video :(
[22:46] <JessicaW> mcphail: mostly permission errors. access denied.
[22:46] <scenic> i tried via kino, and via dvgrab -i
[22:46] <nictrasavios_> join #bash
[22:47] <mcphail> JessicaW: have you exluded it from recursing into special files/directories like /dev ?
[22:47] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Does all DNS resolution fail? or just some sites?
[22:47] <NeedInterwebz> all of it. and actually I think it's deeper than that
[22:47] <JessicaW> mcphail: doing that now. there's a lot of those though...
[22:47] <NeedInterwebz> the icon says it's connected, but I can't even successfully ping the gateway...
[22:48] <Gape> mongo: Hmm ntfsclone doesn't clone empty part of partition?
[22:48] <JessicaW> mcphail: and I was TRYING to be lazy.... ;)
[22:48] <mcphail> JessicaW: there aren't as many as you think. And when you get it configured once it will work forever ;)
[22:48] <mcphail> JessicaW: no reason dd shouldn't work, though...
[22:48] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: can you go to a terminal so we can type some commands to find out?
[22:48] <NeedInterwebz> sure, already there
[22:48] <Guest555> im trying to use hdparm to adjust the IO_support settings of an external hdd however im getting the following error: HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. I'm trying to enable 16bit from 32bit. Anyone help?
[22:49] <bcuraboy> hi guys. need some help.the screen of my laptop goes black after a while.it happens in bth sessions: mine and in guest session
[22:49] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, is it turning off, or just going black?
[22:49] <bcuraboy> what could be the reason?the energy settings are all ok
[22:49] <JessicaW> mcphail: I was going to dd the entire partition but I read that linux couldn't be running if you did that.
[22:49] <bcuraboy> just going black
[22:49] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: do you get anything from this other than the "lo..." line? ifconfig | grep -B 1 'inet addr'
[22:50] <mcphail> JessicaW: I suppose it might stutter if the filesystem is written to as it runs
[22:50] <NeedInterwebz> I did get wlan0
[22:50] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, Check in the System Settings for your display settings, is it set to go off?
[22:50] <pappijo> Hi everyone! I've just installed step (physics simulator from kdedu) and when I run it I get this strange message: step: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN6Phonon11VideoPlayer5eventEP6QEvent PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
[22:50] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Can you show me what "ifconfig wlan0" shows?
[22:50] <mcphail> JessicaW: rsync is your best bet. And it is better to point it at what you need to backup rather than excluding things you don't
[22:51] <NeedInterwebz> yeah, I'll have to type it out so it'll be a second
[22:51] <mcphail> JessicaW: and see my /lastlog for a pointer about rsnapshot which I _love_
[22:51] <JessicaW> Personally, I'd like to backup everything. In case of emergency, we could just drop on the image and keep going.
[22:52] <JessicaW> mcphail: yeah, I was reading on that. kind of like grsync or rdiff right?
[22:52] <bcuraboy> JonEdney, what u mean?in the monitors or in the nvidia settings?
[22:52] <NeedInterwebz> Link encap:Ethernet   HWaddr 00:21:6a:39:8d:16  inet addr:192.168.1.104  BCast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[22:52] <mcphail> JessicaW: special files are created on-the-fly. There is no point backing them up and they wouldn't be included in an offline dd image anyway
[22:52] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: If you have a USB stick you could use it to save output to and shuttle between the naughty PC and this one :)
[22:52] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, Shouldnt have anything to do with your GFX card settings (at least I would assume).
[22:52] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: ok, that's enough for me
[22:52] <bcuraboy> i also have created a backup of my files a few days ago when everything was fine
[22:53] <NeedInterwebz> Haha yeah, I don't have one atm >.> that's good though
[22:53] <bcuraboy> but i've restored the files and the problem persists
[22:53] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, Interesting.
[22:53] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: ok... now check if this gives anything: ip route show | grep default
[22:53] <JessicaW> mcphail: good point.
[22:53] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, 12.04?
[22:53] <JessicaW> mcphail: let me look into rsnapshot some more.
[22:53] <bcuraboy> ya
[22:53] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: It should report a default via A.B.C.D wlan0 ....
[22:53] <kontagious> hello, when i updated my ubuntu my wireless stopped working. can someone help me out? thanks
[22:53] <bcuraboy> the time of the black screen is about 5 minutes
[22:53] <NeedInterwebz> Sure does
[22:54] <NeedInterwebz> default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 proto static
[22:54] <NeedInterwebz> which is the ip of my gateway
[22:54] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, So when you move your mouse or something, it doesn't come back up?
[22:54] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Great!
[22:54] <bcuraboy> it comes back
[22:54] <mcphail> JessicaW: i have heard good things about rdiff but have never used it
[22:54] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: can you ping 192.18.1.1 ?
[22:54] <pappijo> Hi everyone! I've just installed step (physics simulator from kdedu) and when I run it I get this strange message: step: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkhtml.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN6Phonon11VideoPlayer5eventEP6QEvent PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
[22:54] <NeedInterwebz> I can't
[22:54] <NeedInterwebz> Destination Host Unreachable
[22:54] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: haha!
[22:55] <JonEdney> bcuraboy, I'm stumped.  Maybe someone else may have an idea.
[22:55] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: OK ... another command for you in a mo when I've tested it here...
[22:55] <NeedInterwebz> sure thing, I appreciate it!
[22:55] <bcuraboy> the whole story: i had installed x-screensaver and wallch
[22:55] <mcphail> JessicaW: the other option is to run your server in a virtual machine and make snapshots of that. I _think_ vmware can do that when the guest is online
[22:55] <bcuraboy> but i think i've removed all the entries
[22:56] <moreisee> I had my laptop hooked up to an external monitor, with it set as default (laptop monitor off). Now when I try to boot, it flashes the purple ubuntu screen before dissapearing (I assume it went to where the monitor would be if it were plugged in), I don't have access to an external monitor at the moment, any way to change the default back?
[22:56] <bcuraboy> i've looked in my hidden files and in home directory for config files of it
[22:56] <JessicaW> mcphail: vm could not handle the processing this machine does.
[22:56] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: ip route show | grep '192\.168\.1' ... if you can type the results leaving out things like proto kernel scopr link metric to save time
[22:56] <bcuraboy> at this point there's no more wallch and x-screensaver
[22:56] <JessicaW> mcphail: 16 processors, 512GB ram.
[22:57] <JessicaW> mcphail: for crunching DNA/RNA sequences
[22:57] <szal> 16 processors?
[22:57] <NeedInterwebz> so the same ip route line from last time
[22:57] <IntuitiveNipple> moreisee: from a terminal, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.mybackup
[22:57] <mcphail> JessicaW: nice
[22:57] <cypher-neo> I have a question. When I turned on my laptop, the mouse driver loaded, but not the touchpad driver. Is there a way to load that driver, without needing to restart the computer?
[22:57] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: yes but we're after different info
[22:57] <platinum> hey everyone, where can I ask a really newbie question about ubuntu server?
[22:57] <NeedInterwebz> and then 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 src 192.168.1.104
[22:58] <lorph> has anyone noticed that crontjobs on @reboot start 2 minutes later in 12.04?
[22:58] <lorph> or is it not supposed to do that
[22:58] <moreisee> IntuitiveNipple, cool, I'll give that a shot, thanks.
[22:58] <azend> platinum: here
[22:58] <platinum> azend, thanks.
[22:58] <mcphail> lorph: seriously??
[22:58] <azend> or your loco hub
[22:58] <lorph> mcphail: yes that's what i am seeing
[22:58]  * mcphail panics
[22:58] <lorph> i upgraded 3 of my servers to ubuntu 12.04 and the cronjobs were all delayed a few minutes
[22:59] <bcuraboy> is there other way to restore my ubuntu to the original state when i installed?
[22:59] <lorph> so I thought they didn't run
[22:59] <mcphail> lorph: I'll need to check that when I'm home at the weekend. Thanks for the heads-up
[22:59] <lorph> mcphail: maybe i did something wrong, that's why i'm asking
[22:59] <platinum> okay here goes. I set up a ubuntu server 64 bit on an IBM xServer like. 6 years ago. Now I want to upgrade, but found you can only do fresh install when it's that old. I have not touched the server since I set it up and forgot what I did. Is there any way to keep settings (hostname, apache setup, ip addresses and such)?
[23:00] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: just thinking here ... head hurts :D
[23:00] <NeedInterwebz> Haha it's all good. Mine too, otherwise I wouldn't have come here...
[23:00] <NeedInterwebz> self imposed F for my compsci major -.-'
[23:00] <ellis> platinum: do you remember what/if any settings you made when you set up the server?
[23:00] <mcphail> lorph: I can't check on this machine as it's on the previous LTS. But my server at home brings up various things @reboot which need to run then
[23:01] <bcuraboy> is there other way to restore my ubuntu to the original state when i installed?
[23:01] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: cat /etc/resolv.conf what shows?
[23:01] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: The only thing I can think of right now is that there are firewall rules either on 192.168.1.1 OR on the Ubuntu PC itself that are denying all connections
[23:01] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: He can't even ping the gateway that gave the PC the DHCP assignment
[23:01] <platinum> ellis: it acts as a firewall and proxy and has squid, apache2, and squidGuard. other than that, no. The thing has worked like a dream so I haven't messed with it. Also I don't have much linux experience. :)
[23:02] <NeedInterwebz> it's got "nameserver 127.0.0.1     search socal.rr.com"
[23:02] <lorph> mcphail: i was able to login to the server and the @reboot jobs didn't run until 2 minutes after boot. I suppose they still started after reboot, but i don't see the need for the long delay
[23:02] <scenic> can i find a log of this irc?
[23:02] <foobar123452432> How do I check
 why the need to upgrade then? :)
[23:02] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Have you ever customised the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[23:02] <foobar123452432> to see if hardware acceleration is enabled
[23:02] <foobar123452432> ?
[23:02] <foobar123452432> Anyone?
[23:02] <lorph> I accidentally started the programs manually and ended up running 2 copies of each program
[23:02] <NeedInterwebz> no, should I? lol
[23:02] <a8s0lut0> anyone available to chat about problems i'm having with an out of the box 12.04 mythbuntu setup?
[23:03] <Flannel> !log | scenic
[23:03] <platinum> ellis, I know.. I have been doing the "if it aint broke" for many years, but it's running like 6.04 or something and I do worry about the lack of updates/support. I'd like to go to 12.04 LTS.
[23:03] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: That resolv.conf should read, I think, "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[23:03] <scenic> thx Flannel
[23:03] <mcphail> lorph: I'll check it out. Has anyone filed a bug?
[23:03] <NeedInterwebz> It says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[23:03] <NeedInterwebz> So...
[23:03] <NeedInterwebz> lol
[23:03] <ellis> platinum: yeah It's a good time to change since it's right after the release of an LTS version
[23:03] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: try to edit
[23:04] <foobar123452432> :(
[23:04] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Well, if that file had been touched it is possible that the assignments aren't coming from the network but from that file, and they could be wrong. You said it worked on another network ... maybe that was the other network's settings...
[23:04] <NeedInterwebz> k let me copy the original there first
[23:04] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[23:04] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Do you get anything from "cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep wlan"  ?
[23:04] <platinum> ellis, yep that's what I was thinking. :) but it sure would save time if I could transfer some of my settings and not try to do the whole thing from scratch again. And I'd like it to be as transparent to the users as possible.
[23:04] <NeedInterwebz> I don't
[23:04] <ellis> platinum: If you have an external HD that's big enough to clone your filesystem, it's incredibly easy to do that. So clone the files, reformat your computer then just copy settings/files from your clone as and when you find things that need configuring
[23:04] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: is not a problem it will be recreate to default
[23:05] <todor> has anyone had luck with enabling dm-multipath during 12.04 installation ?
[23:05] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: That's good :) Do as filo recommends now
[23:05] <ellis> platinum: would result in system down time though, if that's critical
[23:05] <mongo> todor: best to just configure it after the install
[23:05] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: so cat /etc/network/interfaces can help us
[23:05] <rakshasa> Can anyone tell me how I go about installing the ntel 12.02 graphics package
[23:06] <NeedInterwebz> okay I ran that command
[23:06] <todor> mongo: i am trying to do SAN booting so my root is on a mpath device too
[23:06] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: try ping
[23:06] <platinum> Hi ellis, I can do this over a weekend so some downtime is OK. I have a usb drive I use for backups, but unfortunately it uses smbfs for the backups because the server wouldn't boot with the drive plugged in. Would that be an issue?
[23:06] <NeedInterwebz> still unreachable
[23:06] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: well cat /etc/network/interfaces
[23:07] <bcuraboy> how can i revert my ubuntu 12.04 to the original state of installation?
[23:07] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: can you ping -c3 localhost?
[23:07] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: try pinging my server IP: ping 109.74.197.122
[23:07] <NeedInterwebz> auto lo                 iface lo inet loopback
[23:07] <NeedInterwebz> that's the interfaces
[23:07] <mongo> bcuraboy: reinstall
[23:07] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: ok
[23:07] <NeedInterwebz> I can ping localhost
[23:07] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: that's a good 'interfaces' files, not been touched
[23:07] <bcuraboy> and my files?lost?
[23:07] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: uhmmm
[23:08] <mongo> bcuraboy: well those files didn't come installed
[23:08] <NeedInterwebz> your server is unreachable
[23:08] <ellis> platinum: as long as you can copy files back and forth from the drive, then that's all that matters. All you're really doing is copying every single file from the computer over to the drive, then you can selectively copy important ones back again once you're on 12.04
[23:08] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Do you have a network cable you can connect to the router with?
[23:08] <mongo> bcuraboy: copy those files off onto a usb drive
[23:08] <NeedInterwebz> Hmm I'm not sure.  I just flew out so all my stuff is back home
[23:08] <ellis> platinum: check this out https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync
[23:08] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: cat /etc/hosts
[23:08] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: and hostname too
[23:09] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: try this: "sudo dhclient wlan0" and the check the log-file to see if the PC received a DHCPOFFER with "tail /var/log/syslog"
[23:10] <NeedInterwebz> hosts:     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback ip6-localnet ip6-mcastprefix ip6-allnodes ip6-allrouters
[23:10] <NeedInterwebz> hostname: ubuntu
[23:10] <NeedInterwebz> sorry that typing took forever lol
[23:10] <platinum> ellis, yes, okay that's great I just hope my config files will work with my newer versions and that I can find where they go :) Thanks for the article, I will try rsync, currently my backups are done with tar.
[23:10] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: You would expect to see a DHCPDISCOVER, DHCPREQUEST, DHCPOFFER, DHCPACK
[23:10] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: only first 3 lines cat /etc/hosts | head -n 3
[23:10] <platinum> ellis, will I be able to copy some file that sets a runlevel (I think that's what it called) where there is no desktop? That's how it is currently configured.
[23:11] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: but are you in a live session?
[23:11] <NeedInterwebz> what do you mean live session?
[23:11] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: live cd
[23:11] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: booted from a live CD or USB stick
[23:11] <NeedInterwebz> nah, installed partition
[23:11] <filo1234> ok
[23:11] <NeedInterwebz> and the first 3 lines are
[23:11] <NeedInterwebz> localhost
[23:11] <NeedInterwebz> ubuntu.ubuntu-domain     ubuntu
[23:12] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: don't forget to try the dhclient and check the log
[23:12] <NeedInterwebz> and then the localhost, loopback, and localnet ip6's
[23:12] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: so wrong IMHO
[23:12] <NeedInterwebz> It did receive a dhcpoffer
[23:12] <NeedInterwebz> and acknowledge
[23:12] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple It is done! Thank you great sir!
[23:12] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: so edit /etc/hosts
[23:13] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: OK ... did it get to the DHCPACK ?
[23:13] <engammalsko> Can someone please help me send a mail from the command line?
[23:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Tm0: Fantastic! well done
[23:13] <NeedInterwebz> Yes
[23:13] <filo1234> wait
[23:13] <ellis> platinum: the benefit of rsync is that it's incredibly stupid. All it does it create a mirror image of your files which you can sift through, no need to unpack/compress etc. As for the runlevel, you'll have to ask some server gurus that, I don't know so much when it comes to Server setups. If you just want a computer without a graphic environment (command line), that'd be easy enough to do
[23:13] <NeedInterwebz> do I need the dhcp stuff in my hosts?
[23:13] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: OK ,lets go back to firewall issues. Have this PC had a firewall configured on it restrictively? UFW is there by default
[23:13] <NeedInterwebz> Nope, standard install
[23:14] <ellis> platinum: you wouldn't even need to change anything unless you wanted to, all Linux boxes can drop to the command line by just pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3/etc
[23:14] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: No you don't need that DHCP stuff, that just proved the PC is talking to the router and getting given the IP address
[23:14] <NeedInterwebz> alright
[23:14] <NeedInterwebz> Why on earth would I not be able to ping it if it's handing me dhcp
[23:14] <NeedInterwebz> wtf
[23:14] <Tm0> @IntuitiveNipple Thank you for all of your help today sir! I could not have done it without you!
[23:14] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/980783/
[23:14] <ellis> IntuitiveNipple: quality username
[23:14] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: edit the first 2 lines on /etc/hosts
[23:15] <platinum> ellis, yes I have been reading the article about rsync and it looks like it will work really well for what I would need. An exact copy would be absolutely wonderful.  I do prefer that the server boots to a console though. Makes it easier for me since all the server stuff I do seems to use command line anyway.
[23:15] <engammalsko> I've been trying to fix things the whole 2 last days. Please I really need help with mail configuration. I've tried a lot but I just get timeout.
[23:15] <platinum> ellis, I am sure there are howtos on line since I have figured it out once before.
[23:15] <NeedInterwebz> isn't that already essentially what it is?
[23:15] <NeedInterwebz> I just left out the numbers lol I guess that's my bad
[23:15] <platinum> ellis, thank you very much for your help. I just need to figure out how I configured my RAID1 and partitions.
[23:16] <NeedInterwebz> the only difference is "ubuntu.ubuntu-domain ubuntu" vs "ubuntu ubuntu"
[23:16] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: as long as you have 127.0.0.1 in there
[23:16] <NeedInterwebz> yeah I have that and the 127.0.1.1
[23:16] <ellis> platinum: yes I expect so. Uninstalling any graphic components should be easy enough. Don't even mention RAID to me haha, bad memories. no problem
[23:16] <sw0rdfish> in order to make wicd my default net manager I should remove network-manager-gnome right?
[23:17] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: uhmm but try to remove .domain
[23:17] <filo1234> and put ubuntu
[23:17] <platinum> ellis thank you and have a good evening.
[23:17] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: did you try ping-ing my server? ping 109.74.197.122
[23:17] <NeedInterwebz> yeah it didn't work
[23:17] <ellis> platinum: you too
[23:17] <sw0rdfish> ?
[23:17] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: it could be your router has icmp replies blocked
[23:17] <sw0rdfish> in order to make wicd my default net manager I should remove network-manager-gnome right????
[23:17] <EBB> I need help with Nvidia dual graphics
[23:17] <NeedInterwebz> well I'm trying webpages too lol
[23:18] <NeedInterwebz> and it's a standard install of the router, and linksys software doesn't do taht by default
[23:18] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: ok ... how about tracepath 109.74.197.122  ... this might get as far as your router ... you can break it by pressing Ctrl+C
[23:18] <NeedInterwebz> that*
[23:18] <NeedInterwebz> fails at step 1
[23:18] <NeedInterwebz> doesn't even make it
[23:18] <EBB> Can someone help me with nvidia graphics
[23:18] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: The only other thing besides a firewall here is a bad route or ARP cache poisoning
[23:19] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: OK ... so it is looking to be local
[23:19] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: sudo iptables -F
[23:19] <NeedInterwebz> yeah.. I just don't understand how the local error can go from working yesterday to not working today
[23:19] <NeedInterwebz> that returns nothing filo
[23:19] <brightsparks> Hi. I'm having trouble with a USB keyboard. At first it wouldn't work in boot up but would work after the system started. Now it seems to work in bootup but not after the system has started. Any solutions? Thanks.
[23:19] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: working on the same network?
[23:20] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: ok try ping
[23:20] <NeedInterwebz> no, different network.  but if it was local why would it matter
[23:20] <NeedInterwebz> what should I ping?
[23:20] <jduranboger> !ping
[23:20] <filo1234> router
[23:20] <jduranboger> ping
[23:20] <NeedInterwebz> destination host unreachable
[23:20] <filo1234> or ping 8.8.8.8
[23:20] <filo1234> ok
[23:21] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: The motherboard's BIOS settings for "Legacy USB devices" needs to be enabled, and USB enabled generally too. sometimes those settings get reset
[23:21] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: did you connected throu some proxy?
[23:21] <renode> anyone have a working tor/vidalia setup link?
[23:21] <filo1234> yesterday  I mean ^
[23:21] <NeedInterwebz> nope, the network was remembered from the last time I was here and it was working fine
[23:21] <thomasd> ok i have an issue a program called udevd started using 100% of my processer and made everything start running slowly
[23:21] <NeedInterwebz> just found it in the gui and entered the password
[23:21] <NeedInterwebz> everything was standard
[23:22] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: If it worked on a  different network then the problem here may be the router you are connecting to.... is it a public router or one you control? does it have any Wifi hotspot running on it?
[23:22] <NeedInterwebz> one I control, and I'm using it right now on this windows machine lol
[23:22] <filo1234> so are you connected on your own network???
[23:22] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: yeah thanks. I have been switching those settings on and off to see if it would make a difference. But it doesn't seem to.
[23:22] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: OK, that helps!
[23:22] <NeedInterwebz> yes
[23:22] <NeedInterwebz> Yeah, when I switch my partitions on the problem laptop the windows partition connects
[23:22] <NeedInterwebz> so it's something in ubuntu
[23:22] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: btw wich ip has windows?
[23:23] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: Usually "legacy USB" means "available at boot" and all others refer to enabling USB for the operating system to find
[23:23] <NeedInterwebz> what are you asking filo?
[23:23] <NeedInterwebz> sorry
[23:23] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: ip address of windows now
[23:23] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: you thinking collision?
[23:23] <NeedInterwebz> 192.168.1.100
[23:23] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: ahh no then!
[23:24] <filo1234> lol nope
[23:24] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: I'm thinking mice !
[23:24] <filo1234> :)
[23:24] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: ok didn't know that. The other setting is for legacy MS setting whatever that is but like say both are on.
[23:24] <NeedInterwebz> I'm just confused
[23:24] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: I think a mouse has chewed through the network cable you don't have :p
[23:24] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: You need a coffee
[23:24] <NeedInterwebz> ;) I wish it was that easy lol
[23:24] <thomasd> anyone know what a program called udevd does and why it would be running busy like it was stuck in an infinite loop
[23:24] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: did you edited /etc/hosts early
[23:24] <filo1234> ?
[23:25] <NeedInterwebz> no, I can go ahead and do that now
[23:25] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple I've done an lshw? And as far as I can tell neither the mouse or the keyboard is listed??
[23:25] <nrdb> I am trying to change default permission for gui programs in gnome... I used umask in ./bashrc for the cli commands.. but this doesn't affect gui programs :-( ... gedit is still generating files with rw-r--r-- permissions :-( ... how do I do this?
[23:25] <wormmd> I had a topic to discuss, but I was just informed it was dinner time. I'll be back shortly.
[23:25] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: ubuntu instead domain
[23:25] <NeedInterwebz> yeah I just did it
[23:25] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: Are they USB devices? or older PS/2 style ?
[23:25] <NeedInterwebz> ping router, still dhu
[23:26]  * filo1234 call a priest
[23:26] <NeedInterwebz> I prefer the flying spaghetti monster :p
[23:26] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: the ps2 keyboard works fine no problem  The USB mouse also works fine. Just the USB keyboard that is playing up.
[23:27] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: filo1234 Summary: DHCPOFFER/DHCPAACK works so we have UDP. wlan0 has an IP. iptables -f has flushed any firewall rules. it takes me back to the routing table even though we checked that for default route and gateway route earlier
[23:27] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: Is it connected directly to the PC or via a hub? have you tried it in a different USB port on the PC?
[23:27] <NeedInterwebz> Yessir. that's all right
[23:27] <NeedInterwebz> if it's any point of interest
[23:28] <NeedInterwebz> sitting in ipconfig on windows
[23:28] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: route -n
[23:28] <imbezol> nrdb: are you able to just change your homedir to deny access to others?
[23:28] <NeedInterwebz> there are three dns servers for some reason
[23:28] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: have you checked the logs for anything suspicious being reported?
[23:28] <NeedInterwebz> No, I wouldn't know what to check
[23:28] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: dns isn't important now
[23:29] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: "ls -lstr /var/log/" (Elle Sss - Elle str ...) that will list log files with most recently changed last
[23:29] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: then look at them using "tail -n 40 /var/log/<filename>"
[23:29] <NeedInterwebz> what file should I look for?
[23:29] <charlie> hi
[23:29] <NeedInterwebz> almost everything that's changed is shit from the 12.04 upgrade
[23:29] <imbezol> IntuitiveNipple: why -s?
[23:30] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz:  most recent *.log or "syslog" changed
[23:30] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: There is a hub recently installed-a pci card??? . Otherwise directly connected to the pc. If I connect the usb keyboard to the pci card hub now it works but not at boot up! But otherwise not working if connected directly to the pc
[23:30] <NeedInterwebz> auth.log
[23:30] <NeedInterwebz> kern.log
[23:30] <NeedInterwebz> syslog
[23:30] <NeedInterwebz> pm-powersave.log
[23:30] <FloodBot1> NeedInterwebz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <IntuitiveNipple> imbezol: because I mistyped :p
[23:31] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: The add-on USB ports won't be available until the operating system has started. The BIOS does not know about them usually
[23:31] <a8s0lut0> anyone available to chat about problems i'm having with an out of the box 12.04 mythbuntu setup?
[23:31] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: route -n what does show above Gateway?
[23:32] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: look at the last 40 or so lines in each using "tail -n 40 <filename> | less" (less is the pager. Press Q to exit it, use cursors and page-up/down to move)
[23:32] <NeedInterwebz> above is just Kernel IP Routing table line
[23:32] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: Aha. That would seem to make sense- that has been puzzlingl me. Should I try this ? "psmouse proto=imps save as root in /etc/modprobe.d/ The mouse problem then will be OK
[23:32] <brightsparks> linkimprove this answer"
[23:32] <NeedInterwebz> below is 192.168.1.1
[23:32] <filo1234> sorry below :)
[23:32] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: for wlan0?
[23:32] <NeedInterwebz> yeah
[23:32] <NeedInterwebz> BUT
[23:32] <Robr3rd> Running Morrowind via WINE, and when I Load Game or select New Game, the application locks up and I receive this error: "Internal errors: Invalid parameters received" Suggestions? (#wine is invite-only apparently)
[23:32] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: I'm not sure what that will do but if you've found it helps I can't see it hurting
[23:32] <MiJyn> Hello
[23:33] <NeedInterwebz> destination is 0.0.0.0
[23:33] <NeedInterwebz> is that right..?
[23:33] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: yeah
[23:33] <NeedInterwebz> shit >=[
[23:33] <filo1234> lol
[23:33] <MiJyn> I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal, not Precise), and now FGLRX doesn't work
[23:33] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: I will try it -do I make the same entry for the keyboard?
[23:33] <MiJyn> anyone has a clue?
[23:33] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: follow IntuitiveNipple suggestion and look into logs
[23:34] <NeedInterwebz> where are the log files?
[23:34] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: /var/log/
[23:34] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: pskeyboard proto=imps  ??
[23:34] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: so a stupid test.... try reboot router or switch and pc
[23:34] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: "ls -ltr /var/log/"
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> so I got the 40 from auth.log
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> the most recent one
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: Best idea yet ... I recall seeing a Linksys router that would just stop responding to some PCs
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> If it is a router restart
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> omg
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: auth.log will mostly report your sudo commands and so on
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: try it!!!
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Then I can go to bed happy :D
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> It will be so frustrating but happy it's working if it is
[23:35] <NeedInterwebz> I'll be back
[23:35] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz: routers becomes stupid sometimes
[23:35] <nrdb> imbezol, that didn't do anything :-( ... it still generated files with the same permissions as before.
[23:36] <newby> How would i change window decoration title bars in cinnamon stable (http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu)   ??
[23:36] <imbezol> nrdb: guess what i was asking is why are you worried about it? If you set your home directory to 700 then nobody can access the files even if they are rw to other
[23:36] <brightsparks>  IntuitiveNipple: can you tell me if this will be correct ? "pskeyboard proto=imps"
[23:37] <imbezol> nrdb: in some cases people need to leave their homedir accessible to other and then that wouldn't work. but if you don't have that need, then setting the homedir to 700 will negate the issue
[23:37] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: sorry, no, I'm not familiar with kernel mouse options
[23:37] <filo1234> well good night all
[23:37] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: ok. Just don't want to be wasting my time writing any old rubbish (lol)
[23:38] <spaceneedle> Just installed Ubuntu on my amd desktop which uses nvidia 6150se graphics and nothing works except unity-2d. Everything worked when I used a live usb stick.
[23:38] <NeedInterwebz_> I think I'm just going to go to dinner and recode the code I can't pull from github
[23:38] <NeedInterwebz_> it's not worth it at this point
[23:38] <IntuitiveNipple> brightsparks: My partner has problems with USB keyboard in the front ports of his PC, but not the back ports. Maybe you can try something similar?
[23:38] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: not fixed?
[23:39] <NeedInterwebz_> nope, sure isn't
[23:39] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: HANG ON...!
[23:39] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: Ok sure.
[23:39] <NeedInterwebz_> lol okay
[23:39] <nrdb> imbezol, ok... I will test.
[23:39] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: Did you say you'd used that PC and its Windows install to connect?
[23:39] <brightsparks> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[23:39] <NeedInterwebz_> Yeah
[23:39] <arejay> bahokok
[23:39] <arejay> sdgd
[23:40] <semitones> Hello. Is computer janitor still a useful application for cleaning up old systems, or does it not work anymore?
[23:40] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz: I recall, long time ago, seeing something similar when the Windows side (obviously using the same network interface and therefore MAC address) was connected first, then rebooted into Ubuntu and Ubuntu got a stale allocation somehow ... can't recall precisely now but I'm wondering if that is related to your experience
[23:41] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: something to think about ... no idea how to fix it though¬
[23:41] <NeedInterwebz_> well I had tried the ubuntu side first
[23:41] <NeedInterwebz_> when that didn't work
[23:41] <NeedInterwebz_> I was like wtf and booted into windows
[23:41] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: OK ... scratch that one as well
[23:41] <NeedInterwebz_> which did
[23:41] <FloodBot1> NeedInterwebz_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: check /var/log/kern.log ... read through it all with "less /var/log/kern.log" ... see if there's some problem with the wifi card or it don't get reconfigured correctly and maybe stops transmitting
[23:42] <NeedInterwebz_> Yeah I'm probably just going to chalk this one up as a loss lol
[23:42] <NeedInterwebz_> how would I know it would be incorrect?
[23:42] <nrdb> imbezol, that does what I want... I thought the permissions of the file took precedence!
[23:42] <trazplan> hi
[23:43] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: Errors or warnings are usually flagged as such in the logs
[23:43] <trazplan> hola
[23:43] <melodie> hi
[23:43] <trazplan> this is my firt time in a chat...
[23:43] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: I'm sure there's a clue there in those logs, you need to find it!
[23:43] <NeedInterwebz_> so could I just grep the logs for errors
[23:43] <imbezol> nrdb: nope. if you set a directories permissions to be 0 for other, then nobody can even get in there to see what files are present
[23:43] <Robr3rd> Running Morrowind via WINE, and when I Load Game or select New Game, the application locks up and I receive this error: "Internal errors: Invalid parameters received" Suggestions? (#wine is invite-only apparently)
[23:44] <zykotic10> Robr3rd: try wine's channel #winehq
[23:44] <Robr3rd> zykotic10, Ah. #winehq. Gotcha. ;)
[23:44] <imbezol> nrdb: the x is to allow them to enter, the r is to let them see what's in there, and the w would let them create or modify things there
[23:44] <NeedInterwebz_> okay, there's quite a few errors
[23:44] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: not that simple unfortunately - the Linux kernel hasn't agreed on structured log formats yet
[23:44] <NeedInterwebz_> oh. well shit
[23:45] <NeedInterwebz_> it doesn't look like there are any errors for the network stuff
[23:46] <NeedInterwebz_> well hmm
[23:46] <NeedInterwebz_> it goes "wlan0: link becomes ready" and then immediately after "wlan0: no IPv6 routers present"
[23:46] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: so hard to do these things remotely... often the solution comes from intuition
[23:47] <NeedInterwebz_> yeah, indeed
[23:47] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: that's fine - if you have no IPv6 router
[23:47] <NeedInterwebz_> k
[23:47] <NeedInterwebz_> well I'm baffled
[23:47] <nrdb> imbezol, just found that out.... thanks...
[23:47] <imbezol> np
[23:48] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: iwconfig wlan0 | grep -i mode
[23:48] <nrdb> imbezol, but you can cd direct to a directory within the the protected home directory.
[23:48] <NeedInterwebz_> mode:managed frequency: 2.437 GHz   Access Point: C0:C1:C0:05:1E:FC
[23:49] <filo1234> pfff ok
[23:49] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: I'm trying to think of a way to do a UDP ping ... we know DHCP works ... but can't download hping!
[23:49] <filo1234> lol
[23:50] <filo1234> IntuitiveNipple: do you have a dualboot in that pc?
[23:50] <filo1234> hem
[23:50] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_:
[23:50] <NeedInterwebz_> Yes
[23:50] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: windows?
[23:50] <NeedInterwebz_> Yessir
[23:51] <hash> was up
[23:51] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: and.... windows is shutdown or hibernate/suspend?
[23:51] <NeedInterwebz_> well it's from grub, so it would be shutdown I guess
[23:51] <NeedInterwebz_> whatever grub does when you boot the other one :P
[23:51] <burububburu> hi all! I'm using 10.04.4: how can I get the latest version (the 12.04 version) of only the programs I wnat to be update? Ex: have VLC on 10.04 at the same updated (and latest) version of 12.04
[23:52] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: uhm? sure but if you boot in windows and hibernate.... you can reboot in ubuntu
[23:52] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: windos still hibernate
[23:52] <filo1234> if you use it
[23:52] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234:    What are you thinking?
[23:52] <NeedInterwebz_> Are you sure... I think it boots into windows only and blocks the grub
[23:52] <NeedInterwebz_> but it's shutdown regardless
[23:53] <melodie> burububburu, you can try but you put the system at risk with possible differences in the versions of libraries
[23:53] <nrdb> imbezol, just found something... /home/neil has no rwx------ .... as a different user "cd /home/neil/Desktop" worked... then "cd .." worked ... then "ls" worked also.. on a protected directory.
[23:53] <filo1234> I had that problem with my computer boss, windows was hibernated and network was locked by windows
[23:53] <NeedInterwebz_> I can turn it off and fresh boot just to make sure there's nothing going on with that, but I've never had a problem before
[23:53] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: just for interest - what WiFi adapter is in that PC?
[23:54] <NeedInterwebz_> I'll have to check when it's back up
[23:54] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: Ahhh yes, on a Windows Active Directory network?
[23:54] <burububburu> melodie: so there are problems if i want to keep the whole system updated to its release (10.4.4), but *only* some apps at the latest?
[23:54] <filo1234> IntuitiveNipple: nope
[23:55] <imbezol> nrdb: /home/neil is rwx------ ?
[23:55] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: "lscpci -nn | grep-i net"
[23:55] <nrdb> imbezol, yes
[23:55] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: correction "lspci -nn | grep-i net"
[23:55] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: so at last test try to set static ip and dns
[23:55] <NeedInterwebz_> hold on, I'm shutting it down still lol
[23:55] <imbezol> nrdb: and a user other than neil can see stuff inside /home/neil?
[23:55] <IntuitiveNipple> NeedInterwebz_: ooops :D
[23:55] <imbezol> nrdb: and that user is not root ?
[23:56] <melodie> burububburu, there might be, or not, depending on the libraries which can be common with other apps
[23:56] <nrdb> imbezol, can do an "ls" but not see contents of file... and this wasn't root.
[23:56] <melodie> burububburu, you can try : at your own risk
[23:56] <burububburu> melodie: ok. how do I do that? How can I try=
[23:56] <imbezol> nrdb: they shouldn't be able to do an ls
[23:56] <burububburu> *try?
[23:57] <imbezol> nrdb: it's possible if they were already in the dir when you changed the permissions they are seeing a cached version of the ls
[23:57] <imbezol> nrdb: try "touch testfile" with neil, then ls with the other use
[23:57] <imbezol> nrdb: that other user should never see that testfile exists
[23:57] <L3top> smart imbezol
[23:57] <melodie> burububburu, for example, for vlc I did it : I went to the wiki and did a search
[23:57] <nrdb> imbezol, yes... they shouldn't be able to "cd" ether.. and this was after the chmod
[23:57] <melodie> and followed the instructions adding one more repos: which I deactivated just after I used it.
[23:57] <burububburu> melodie: VLC's wiki or Ubuntu's one?
[23:57] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: IntuitiveNipple .... good luck!! c ya bye
[23:58] <NeedInterwebz_> thanks for all your help man!
[23:58] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: goodnight :)
[23:58] <NeedInterwebz_> I appreciate it
[23:58] <NeedInterwebz_> and I restarted and it still doesn't work nipple
[23:58] <filo1234> NeedInterwebz_: try static ip :p
[23:58] <NeedInterwebz_> willl do
[23:58] <melodie> burububburu, ubuntu ones
[23:58] <IntuitiveNipple> filo1234: NeedInterwebz_ I was just thinking the opposite: has a static entry been entered via network-manager's applet from the GUI?
[23:59] <filo1234> IntuitiveNipple: yeah it's easyest way
[23:59] <nrdb> imbezol, no they can't
[23:59] <NeedInterwebz_> no, it's on auto
[23:59] <NeedInterwebz_> auto dhcp