[02:17] <POQDavid> hi ppl burg messed up my grub and now the grub menu wont show up can you guys plz help me get my grub back
[02:18] <Roey> hey all
[02:19] <Roey> what the fork:
[02:19] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/rv5eTHej
[02:19] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/thmgPAZf
[02:19] <Roey> I got that as I was running do-dist-upgrade.
[02:34] <xdunlapx> Hi everyone. I have a question I hope someone can help me with. I'm trying to remove all PPA's from my sources.list but none are there but I keep getting errors when refreshing the apt-get.
[02:35] <Roey> hey all
[02:35] <Roey> I am rebooting after a dist-upgrade
[02:35] <Roey> and praying to the Booting Gods.
[02:35] <Roey> see ya in a bit.
[02:52] <Roey> back
[02:52] <Roey> wow, I do believe this is the first dist-upgrade that has passed without incident.
[02:52] <Roey> Impressive :)
[03:25] <POQDavid> here anyone know about grub?
[03:27] <POQDavid> i need help restore grub
[03:55] <ranmaruhibikiya> POQDavid u can use supergtrub disk
[03:56] <POQDavid|2> i did
[03:56] <POQDavid|2> sorry i was working on i found boot-repair but is for Ubuntu
[03:56] <POQDavid|2> i am not sure if it works on kubuntu
[03:57] <ranmaruhibikiya> is the same grub for both
[03:57] <POQDavid|2> so i can use boot-repair and it will fix it?
[03:58] <ranmaruhibikiya> sure
[03:58] <POQDavid|2> cool
[03:58] <POQDavid|2> thats gr8
[03:59] <POQDavid|2> do i get the iso or i do it from kubuntu's live cd
[04:01] <POQDavid|2> ranmaruhibikiya: thanks :) and i gtg take care bye
[04:29] <draik> I've had this issue since 11.04, and each release, I can't seem to get it resolved.
[04:30] <draik> How do I get my HDMI monitor to display the proper resolution?
[04:30] <draik> The display is about 10-20mm bigger on all 4 sides.
[04:31] <draik> The entire window boarder and status bar are "hidden" by the TV
[04:59] <JMichaelX> anyone here have an opinion on using kubuntu on a netbook? in this case, single core atom, intel graphics
[05:10] <draik> JMichaelX: I would suggest Lubuntu. I put that on my Netbook (Acer Asprire One), and it definitely seemed to handle a lot better.
[05:17] <JMichaelX> thx draik!
[05:17] <JMichaelX> draik: btw, how's it going?
[05:35] <draik> JMichaelX: It goes. Just uploading pictures from a recent NBA game I saw.
[06:17] <urlwolf> I have two tray icons for the system notification helper. Is this normal?
[06:18] <urlwolf> also, I just had to kill X because there war an unkillable process taking 100% of the CPU, a python script called apt-check. May be related?
[06:30] <urlwolf> can I tell kwallet to auto-login with the same password as my user has?
[06:30] <urlwolf> right now, kwallet pops up asking for a password
[06:30] <almoxarife> urlwolf, yes
[06:31] <almoxarife> urlwolf, better yet, leave kwallet password free
[06:31] <urlwolf> since knetworkmanager needs kwallet, it fails to autoconnect to the web
[06:31] <urlwolf> aha
[06:31] <urlwolf> how?
[06:31] <almoxarife> urlwolf, dont use password in kwallet
[06:31] <urlwolf> is that advisable>?
[06:32] <almoxarife> urlwolf, you have to login to use it, its an option
[06:33] <urlwolf> I cannot see an obvious way to remove the password
[06:41] <urlwolf> How can the default install of kubuntu have this problem? many beginner users will stop using it, because their wireless will not autologin...
[06:45] <Tm_T> urlwolf: if kwallet doesn't have password, then it doesn't encrypt passwords
[06:46] <Tm_T> urlwolf: but, you can change the kwallet password (to empty for example) via kwalletmanager
[07:19] <vexaxv> how do i get kde themes??
[07:25] <urlwolf> ok kwalletmanager fails to open
[07:25] <urlwolf> even without a password, the problem is still there
[07:25] <urlwolf> kwallet pops up, and it prevents knetworkmanager from autologing
[07:26] <urlwolf> could I rip out kwallet and be done with it?
[07:26] <urlwolf> I'm tired of having to go into network prefs, removing my home ssd, adding it again, and typing the password every single time
[07:29] <urlwolf> looking at reverse dependencies, looks like kde-standard depends on it, so I won't be able to uninstall it
[07:30] <urlwolf> kwallet and knetwork manager both being essential tools to a desktop, I don't understand why they don't get along better
[07:31] <urlwolf> could I tell knetworkmanager 'do not try to log me in till kwallet is authenticated'?
[07:34] <vexaxv> anyone know how to install this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=136625
[07:41] <urlwolf> ok, I'll ask at #kde
[07:44] <urlwolf> A different problem.... apt-check takes 100% of the cpu, and is unkillable even by root. Any idea how to solve this?
[09:43] <rick__> hola
[09:44] <rick__> alguien ?
[10:00] <HelenB> I'm working on a radio project which requires audacity to be on record 24/7
[10:00] <HelenB> the problem is...
[10:01] <HelenB> audacity keeps crashing after so long
[10:07] <Tm_T> HelenB: can you use something else than audacity? what exactly it does do in your setup?
[10:08] <HelenB> Tm_T, It does a voice activated recording from line in 0
[10:08] <HelenB> and then starts a new recording after 24 hours
[10:08] <HelenB> every 24 hours sorry
[10:13] <HelenB> Tm_T, I'll need a way to disable keyboard shortcuts too
[10:14] <HelenB> people let cats in my room when they want to go in and I'm not always there to stop that
[10:14] <HelenB> and the cat would jump on my keyboard and mess up my recordings
[10:14] <HelenB> there are times when the cat has got me banned from channels for spamming
[10:21] <sky100> i have windows xp & kubuntu installed on my machine .. i want to do the fresh install of kubuntu .. how should i do it .. pls help me
[10:23] <sky100> i have windows xp & kubuntu installed on my machine .. i want to do the fresh install of kubuntu .. how should i do it .. pls help me
[10:23] <itdp> HAI
[10:23] <sky100> hi
[10:24] <itdp> IN KUBUNJTU WHAT IS K STANDS FOR?
[10:24] <sky100> itdp : ps dont use caps
[10:24] <sky100> pls*
[10:24] <itdp> ok
[10:24] <itdp> sorry
[10:24] <sky100> np
[10:25] <sky100> i have windows xp & kubuntu installed on my machine .. i want to do the fresh install of kubuntu .. how should i do it .. pls help me
[10:25] <itdp> in kubuntu what is 'k' stands for?
[10:26] <itdp> okey i will help u
[10:26] <itdp> do u want both os on u r machine?
[10:26] <sky100> i really dont know what K stnads for in kubuntu , itdp
[10:26] <sky100> stands*
[10:27] <sky100> yes i want both on my machine
[10:27] <sky100> i have windows xp up & running
[10:27] <itdp> okey is there is kubuntu also there?
[10:27] <sky100> in fact i had both OS until 2 days back i had some issues with kubuntu
[10:28] <Mayur> hehe
[10:28] <Mayur> what nonsence?
[10:28] <itdp> do you have an iso file?
[10:28] <Mayur> yes
[10:29] <sky100> i have kubunbtu 11.10 installation cd
[10:29] <itdp> okey just go to win xp free a partition
[10:30] <sky100> i have 160Gb HDD with 4 partitions
[10:30] <sky100> one of the partition is free
[10:31] <itdp> what is its size?
[10:31] <sky100> 40GB
[10:31] <itdp> okey go to manage and rightclicking mycomputer and delete that partition
[10:32] <itdp> MyComputer(RightClick)->Manage
[10:32] <itdp> select disk management
[10:32] <sky100> yep
[10:33] <sky100> disk management
[10:33] <itdp> did u see a window dat describing partitions
[10:33] <sky100> yep
[10:34] <itdp> some of them are green ,blue , and black color
[10:34] <sky100> yes
[10:34] <sky100> C =black
[10:35] <itdp> in what partition windows xp is installed?
[10:35] <sky100> C partition
[10:35] <sky100> 39.06 Gb in size
[10:35] <sky100> 15 Gb free
[10:36] <itdp> okey just restart the system
[10:36] <sky100> C, D, E, F  ..4 partitions
[10:37] <sky100> E is split in 2 partions
[10:37] <sky100> 19.79Gb & 18.03 GB
[10:37] <itdp> ok
[10:38] <sky100> but in windows xp im unable to find where Kubuntu is installed
[10:38] <sky100> its not showing up
[10:38] <sky100> likely windows xp cant read Kubuntu
[10:38] <itdp> u can not it is 15 gb free space
[10:39] <sky100> perhaps u didnt understand me..
[10:39] <sky100>  i didnt say that I wish to install in C
[10:39] <itdp> ok
[10:39] <sky100> thats for windows only....
[10:39] <sky100> i know ..
[10:39] <itdp> u need to install k ubuntu
[10:39] <itdp> okey
[10:40] <sky100> i want to do a fesh install
[10:40] <sky100> means i want to delete the previous kubuntu & install a fresh one
[10:40] <sky100> fresh*
[10:40] <itdp> okey there is already a kubuntu in u r system bt some what correpted am i right
[10:40] <sky100> yea
[10:41] <sky100> as I want to boot to Kubuntu.. its asking for LOGIN
[10:41] <itdp> okey while installing the previous kubuntu u made partition am i right?
[10:41] <sky100> yea
[10:42] <itdp> okey
[10:42] <itdp> den u only need to restart the system
[10:42] <itdp> and enter in to BIOD
[10:42] <itdp> sorry BIOS
[10:42] <sky100> ok
[10:43] <sky100> & select boot from CD option ?
[10:43] <itdp> ok
[10:43] <itdp> den put the CD and save&exit
[10:43] <sky100> yea
[10:44] <itdp> the system starts booting from CD
[10:44] <sky100> & then it will boot from CD ..means  Kubuntu LIVE CD
[10:44] <itdp> ok from there u can select install option
[10:45] <sky100> yes
[10:45] <sky100> i did ,,, but its showing some informations like mounted disk & so on ...
[10:46] <sky100> like asking me if i want to do the installation with mounted disk .. so on
[10:46] <sky100> which is bit confusing for me..
[10:46] <itdp> you need to continue with it
[10:47] <sky100> ok
[10:47] <itdp> u r working with a mounted disk
[10:47] <itdp> and u need to install the os in u r hard drive
[10:47] <sky100>  i was just scraed if any wrong step deletes my windows xp OS ...
[10:48] <itdp> u only care while it asking do u want to install automatic installation or manual installation
[10:48] <itdp> i mean partitioning
[10:49] <itdp> if u select automatic partition it  will erase entire disk
[10:49] <sky100> i cant figure out how to delete the previous installation & install the fresh kubuntu
[10:50] <sky100> in the partition i had installed kubuntu
[10:51] <itdp> u doesnot care anything untill u reached in partitioning region
[10:51] <itdp> dat is in partitioning region u can select the previous installation of kubuntu
[10:52] <itdp> okey
[10:53] <sky100> brb
[10:54] <sky100> on phone
[10:54] <itdp> no
[10:54] <sky100> pls excuse me ,  i swill be right back
[10:54] <sky100> will*
[10:54] <itdp> ok
[10:58] <itdp> hey
[11:09] <sky100> back
[11:09] <sky100> ok itdp
[11:11] <sky100> it was giving me the message .. like "If you continue with mounted disk .. you wont be able to resize this partition ... " so on
[11:11] <sky100> so shall I ignore that message & click YES ?
[11:12] <sky100> hi itdp
[11:14] <sky100> hello
[11:14] <ikonia> sky100: why would you ignore a warning
[11:16] <sky100> ikoniaa : I was just confused about a fresh installation of kubuntu alongwith windows xp
[11:16] <ikonia> what's confusing about "if you do this....."
[11:16] <sky100> ii have had XP & kbuntu as dual boot
[11:16] <ikonia> so ?
[11:17] <sky100> just a min
[11:18] <sky100> ikonia
[11:18] <ikonia> don't worry, I'm not really that interested, it's up to you if you want to ignore the warning or not
[11:18] <sky100> If you continue with mounted disk .. you wont be able to resize this partition ... " so on
[11:19] <ikonia> sky100: yes and ?
[11:21] <sky100> as far as i can remeber while installing kubuntu i was being served with a message like that
[11:21] <sky100> remember*
[11:21] <sky100> in face while i was trying to go for a fresh install...
[11:22] <sky100> fact*
[11:22] <sky100> so i had to quit a fresh  installation of kubuntu
[11:23] <sky100> could not figure out if i should have continued with
[11:23] <sky100> so im stuck with kubuntu being screwed
[11:24] <sky100> so asking for some help ..
[11:25] <ikonia> I don't understand what you are actually asking
[11:25] <sky100> i was just scraed if any wrong step screws my XP installation .. in case i mess up with partitions
[11:26] <ikonia> again, not sure what you are actually asking
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:27] <sky100> i was just asking how to go for a fresh installation of Kubuntu with  xp
[11:27] <sky100> i have single 160Gb HDD with 4 partitions
[11:27] <sky100> ikoniaa : i want to delete my previous kubuntu installation & install a fresh kubuntu
[11:27] <ikonia> sky100: you put the install CD in, boot it and follow the install instructions on screen
[11:28] <ikonia> sky100: ok, so do that
[11:28] <sky100> i have dual boot ..
[11:28] <ikonia> so ?
[11:29] <sky100> yes... but
[11:29] <ikonia> but what ? I don't understand the problem
[11:29] <ikonia> boot the CD - follow the instructions, install kubuntu
[11:30] <sky100> while attempting to install it .. i was served with a message like MOUNTED disk .. & so on
[11:30] <ikonia> sky100: right, and ?
[11:30] <sky100> it asked me if i should continue with unmounted disk ..
[11:30] <ikonia> I think you need to REALLY read this
[11:30] <sky100> some message like this... which put me in confusion
[11:30] <ikonia> you just said it was mounted, now unmounted
[11:31] <ikonia> think about what it's asking you and make your choice
[11:32] <sky100> im not sure about that mounted  & unmounted
[11:32] <ikonia> unmount it
[11:32] <sky100> so thats what is confusing me
[11:32] <sky100> i have a single HDD of 160Gb with 4 partitions
[11:33] <sky100> u mean i shd delete some partitions?
[11:34] <sky100> in C i have xp ..
[11:35] <ikonia> you've said that about 10 times
[11:35] <ikonia> there is no need to delete anything
[11:35] <ikonia> just re-install kubuntu over your old kubuntu install
[11:37] <sky100> ok
[11:37] <sky100> thanx ikonia
[11:37] <sky100> gonna try with installation ...
[11:40] <BluesKaj> ikonia, btw successfully installed 12.10 on a separate internal HDD without any problems with grub picking it up .. used the manual partitoning method, which probly made the difference
[11:41] <ikonia> BluesKaj: curious, where is grub stored, on the main hard disk or the second internal ?
[11:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> BluesKaj:  is on the cutting edge of linux all the time ;)
[11:44] <BluesKaj> ikonia, I'm not real sure , I just assumed that it's on the main drive and it detected the other dive/install by default and did self upgrade
[11:45] <ikonia> BluesKaj: I'm trying to work out if you a.) boot the main drive grub that then boots grub on the second drive b.) boot main drives grub that has somehow detected your second install, but then how will that get updated ?? c.) just booting grub of the second drive
[11:47] <BluesKaj> ikonia, ikonia grub lists the 2nd drive kernels first in the menu , but dunno if that's just the latest entries being listed first or...
[11:47] <BluesKaj> oops repeating myself again :P
[11:48] <ikonia> BluesKaj: that sounds to me like it's booting direct from the second drive, but nothing solid to prove that
[11:48] <BluesKaj> is there command to find out , I wonder
[11:49] <ikonia> BluesKaj: not really, but, I'd be interested in seeing if you had a grub config in both /boot's on each disk
[11:56] <BluesKaj> ikonia, well, this 2nd drive has grub.cfg in /boot  , but I can't access root in the other main drive ...I'll have to boot in to findout
[11:56] <ikonia> BluesKaj: why can't you mount root on the other drive ?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> ikonia, dunno
[11:58] <ikonia> worrying
[12:00] <BluesKaj> I can mount all the ~/home files etc
[12:02] <BluesKaj> ikonia, it's listed as /media/549a6c23-ddc3-4f14-8fbb-4e21a60bcb8e/ in dolphn 'places'  ,but if I add root to the end of the path .."file is nonexistent"
[12:05] <BluesKaj> oops  ikonia , I haven't finished my morning coffe , doh! , I'm checking root , there's no grub.cfg on the main drive. So grub is installed on the 2nd drive
[12:08] <ikonia> BluesKaj: ok, I'll be very interested in seeing what happens when you update the kernel of something running on the main drive
[12:09] <BluesKaj> the /boot/grub file lists the kernels for example , config-3.2.0-12-generic
[12:10] <ikonia> BluesKaj: but lets see what happens when the distro running on disk (A) gets an update
[12:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's 12.04 , hasn't been much to updtae lately
[12:11] <ikonia> BluesKaj: keep an eye on it, I'll be interested to know what happens
[12:12] <BluesKaj> yup, I don't have much choice , ikonia :)
[15:11] <Shano56> note to self: not a good idea to remove kubuntu partitions...
[15:47] <Shano56> Hi anyone available to help me a little ?
[15:49] <designbybeck> whatcha got Shano56?
[15:59] <Shano56> hey designbybeck
[15:59] <Shano56> i had a dual boot
[15:59] <designbybeck> howdy
[15:59] <Shano56> with win 7 and kubuntu
[15:59] <Shano56> i deleted the 2 kubuntu partitions in windoze
[16:00] <Shano56> now i get error on boot
[16:00] <Shano56> cant find partition or somethin
[16:00] <Shano56> any ideas? :/
[16:01] <Shano56> error: no such partition
[16:02] <designbybeck> hhmmm
[16:03] <designbybeck> have you tried to go to your disk tools and check it out there?
[16:03] <Shano56> disk tools ?
[16:06] <designbybeck> hmmm
[16:07] <designbybeck> Shano56: under system settings
[16:07] <designbybeck> Parition Manager
[16:07] <Shano56> i cannot boot into any os
[16:07] <Shano56> bricked bootloader :/
[16:08] <designbybeck> ohhh
[16:08] <designbybeck> can you boot via live USB
[16:08] <Shano56> im gonna try
[16:08] <Shano56> burn windoze recovery to usb
[16:08] <designbybeck> oh i don't know about that
[16:09] <Shano56> problem is im on an old win xp system :/
[16:09] <designbybeck> I don't do much with micro$oft these days
[16:09] <Shano56> damn
[16:17] <Brustofski-Fan> how do i remove gnome-shell and everthing it installed... for some reason.. it only want to go into classic mode the panel has 4 of everything on it ... and even if i try to long into kde.. it goes to gnome classic
[16:18] <bazhang> everything gnome? or just that
[16:18] <Brustofski-Fan> everything apt-get install gnome-shell... installed
[16:19] <bazhang> was ubuntu-desktop already installed?
[16:19] <bazhang> and you are on kde4 now?
[16:19] <Brustofski-Fan> no... i did the kubuntu 12.04 then installed gnome shell
[16:20] <Brustofski-Fan> no.. i'm in the only desktop it will long into gnome classic mode
[16:21] <DarthFrog> !purekde | Brustofski-Fan
[16:22] <ahox> Hi, my plasma-desktop shell keeps crashing whenever my laptop wakes up from suspend and the systray expands. It seems to be due to the network manager. Any idea how to fix it?
[16:22] <ahox> And is this everywhere like this or is it just me?
[16:23] <Brustofski-Fan> DarthFrog, that wants to remove unity.. i don'y have unity
[16:23] <Brustofski-Fan> only kde and gnome-shell
[16:23] <DarthFrog> Brustofski-Fan:  Remove it all and then add back what you want.
[16:24] <DarthFrog> If it's not installed, a failed removal won't hurt your system. :-)
[16:28] <DarthFrog> Or you could try just uninstalling gnome-shell and letting the packaging system pick up now unneeded packages and suggest their autoremoval.
[16:28] <Shano56> i cant even get into bios! wtf
[16:39] <boozer> Hello Kubuntu! Question: I have a kdm server session running, with access control disabled so another user can  connect my x server. However, KDE apps error out: "Cannot find the D-Buss session server"
[16:39] <boozer> how can I remedy this?
[16:57] <reisi> even after purging 'apper' and 'kpackagekit' after upgrade to 12.04 i still get 'Apper' tray notifications of upgrades (in addition to muons notifications) how to remove all apper related?
[16:59] <Shano56> anyone know how screwing up the mbr can lock you out of BIOS ?
[17:01] <reisi> Shano56: does not sound rational, mbr is on hard drives, BIOS is on a chip; if however you have such a buggy bios that it needs a working mbr to continue, unplug your hdd to enter into bios
[17:04] <Shano56> okay
[17:04] <Shano56> im on a laptop :/
[17:06] <reisi> Shano56: you can still unplug it, even rather easily if your laptop is not a mini-laptop (like my asus eee) -- those have like 20-40 screws to do :D
[17:06] <reisi> Shano56: for proper laptops that should not void any warranties or anything like that
[17:10] <Shano56> nvm
[17:10] <Shano56> i unplugged it
[17:10] <Shano56> it was easy
[17:10] <Shano56> still cant seem to enter bios :/
[17:11] <reisi> Shano56: are you sure on which key it should be?
[17:11] <Shano56> yes should be del
[17:11] <Shano56> its worked before
[17:12] <reisi> Shano56: usual suspects del, f1, f10, backspace, ...
[17:12] <Shano56> i have tried them all
[17:12] <Shano56> :/
[17:13] <Shano56> i deleted 2 kubuntu partitions
[17:13] <reisi> Shano56: some bios' are just frustratingly tricky to enter, try cold-boot vs. reboot, remove battery, reinstert battery
[17:13] <Shano56> then i got stuck in grub recovery
[17:14] <reisi> there are tools to recover partition tables, grub recovery... i don't think that's one i'd use
[17:14] <Shano56> thats the only thing that shows with my hdd in
[17:15] <reisi> so you are trying to get to bios to change the boot order?
[17:15] <Shano56> yeah
[17:16] <reisi> is your hdd sata or ide?
[17:16] <Shano56> sata
[17:16] <reisi> well, i'd burn or install grml to a cd / usb stick, boot without hdd and hotplug the hdd once grml is up
[17:17] <Shano56> this http://grml.org/
[17:17] <Shano56> ?
[17:17] <reisi> yeah, but ... it isn't the most userfriendly
[17:17] <Shano56> how do i make it bootable ?
[17:17] <Shano56> i only have usb
[17:17] <Shano56> :/
[17:18] <reisi> there are iso -> bootable usb utilities, i don't know how they really work, but they work
[17:18] <reisi> see ubuntu to usb stick guide, there's mac/windows guides as well
[17:18] <reisi> depending on which os are you chatting from
[17:19] <reisi> but #grub people might know how you should best recover your partition table; there are though utils for that specifically, AFAIR even included in all grml versios
[17:20] <reisi> i havent' ever deleted parition by mistake so i really dont know how to help :)
[18:04] <Settembrini> Hello everyone. I've got problems with HDMI-Sound in Kubuntu 12.04. Anyone care to help?
[18:33] <andrey_> good night, there is anyone alive? I need help .. regarding Kubuntu
[18:35] <Settembrini> what's your problem, maybe i can help
[18:37] <andrey_> please tell me where you can find a list of commands for the terminal? I want to do in the future administration of Kubuntu .. and I do not know where to start .. just want to bash ... read the literature or may suggest which sources?
[18:38] <andrey_> I apologize in advance for my bad english .. I live in Dnepropetrovsk (Ukraine)
[18:39] <Settembrini> maybe you could just search for a bash-manual or something like this on google? (I am sure that you already tried this, but please continue reading) I do not think that there is a book on bash or anything like that...
[18:39] <Settembrini> this
[18:39] <Settembrini> reads good
[18:39] <Settembrini> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[18:39] <FloodBotK1> Settembrini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <Settembrini> I am sorry.
[18:40] <qbit> http://ss64.com/bash/
[18:41] <qbit> man bash is an overview to start with too
[18:41] <andrey_> can be considered as a flood, if the person explains the answer to the question on the issue. and nothing more ...? .. I do not understand the reason for this remark.
[18:41] <Settembrini> can anyone help me w/ this HDMI-sound-thingy?
[18:44] <andrey_> and another question-whether it makes sense to do C + + under Kubuntu? for its administration (I mean to learn C + +)
[18:44] <DarthFrog> Settembrini: You're not likely to get a response from such a general inquiry.  If you want help, ask a specific question.
[18:44] <andrey_> Considering the fact that it is kind of like writing in C language
[18:45] <Settembrini> @DeathFrog: thanks.
[18:46] <Settembrini> My problem is: I have hooked up a AOCe2795vh to my Dell XPSm1530 w/ 8600m and HDMI. Sound is working, but on full volume and there is no device in the mixer. How do I turn it down?
[18:46] <asfyxia> andrey, try google for the search term TLCL, it's a pdf 'The Linux Command Line', that's a good reference point
[18:47] <andrey_> thanks
[18:48] <DarthFrog> Settembrini: Personally, I would either turn down the speakers or use the command line alsamixer (a curses utility).
[18:48] <Settembrini> Yeah, that's my problem: It does not work.
[18:49] <Settembrini> Alsamixer does not show the device and turning down the speakers only works via software :(
[18:49] <DarthFrog> Settembrini: What about the Mulitmedia section in System Settings?
[18:50] <andrey_> asfyxia,I have a Russian Google ... as from Ukraine and on it .. Most of site is not visible .. English and Russian and Ukrainian is no sensible information in this and asked for the channel
[18:51] <andrey_> exact sites in the English language is very small
[18:51] <Settembrini> that does show two devices: One the "standard" Device (analogue stereo) and one IEC958. I think that is the one, but it is grey and I dont know how to activate it.
[18:51] <asfyxia> andrey, hold on - I'll look it up for you
[18:53] <asfyxia> andrey, you can download it here: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[18:53] <andrey_> I already gave the information to my questions, if there were any questions I will ask again
[18:56] <andrey_> thanks again to all-you helped me a lot
[19:00] <Settembrini> I have found the volume control no the monitor. That helped. It hid in plain sight ;-) Thanks everyone.
[20:37] <Shano56> anyone familiar with grub recovery/mbr ?
[20:39] <BluesKaj> Shano56, depends
[20:39] <Shano56> well basically i had dual boot win 7 + kubuntu
[20:40] <Shano56> removed the 2 kubuntu partitions without thinking about mbr
[20:40] <Shano56> then i turned on my computer and was stuck at grub recovery
[20:40] <Shano56> i've been unable to get into bios as well, until just now
[20:40] <Shano56> im going to try to copy win 7 recovery to a bootable usb
[20:42] <BluesKaj> does grub still show the windows 7 entry /
[20:42] <Shano56> it boots with an error
[20:42] <Shano56> partition invalid or something
[20:42] <Shano56> and very little grub commands work
[20:43] <Shano56> I just need to figure out how to creat a bootable usb with win 7 recovery disc :/
[20:45] <BluesKaj> when booting into W7 can you get a C: prompt? if so try runing fixmbr
[20:47] <Shano56> i cant boot into win 7
[20:48] <Shano56> im trying to make a bootable usb drive
[20:48] <Shano56> but on the pc im on right now, listdisk only shows my hdd
[20:48] <Shano56> doest show any removables
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Shano56, maybe the ppl at #windows can help ...it's been a while since I ran windows , always used cd rescue disks , that's how long it's been
[21:06] <jovin> where do i change the font rendering of gtk programs like LibreOffice since i want the same font rendering as native programs  have ?
[21:49] <canis_> I'm looking to remap what "alt+click" does on KDE.  Any help?
[21:52] <qbit> look at systemsetting -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Standard Keyboard Shortcuts
[21:52] <andrew_> hi people
[21:52] <andrew_> im a newbye
[21:53] <andrew_> on ubuntu :)
[21:54] <BluesKaj> andrew_, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:54] <canis_> I found it.  Oddly enough it's in Window behaviour.:(
[21:54] <BluesKaj> canis_, I still don't know what you mean :)
[21:56] <andrew_> only ubuntu i dont know k difference
[21:57] <andrew_> k is cool ?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu | andrew_
[21:58] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu | andrew_
[21:59] <andrew_> thanks bluesKaj
[21:59] <BluesKaj> `ubuntu and kubuntu use different desktop environments , andrew_ . If you want ubuntu support , join #ubuntu chat
[22:32] <shnee> anyone aware/heard of issues with vnc and 12.04
[23:03] <Cat_in_the_Hat> Good evening :)  Can someone please help me with a permissions problem?
[23:04] <Cat_in_the_Hat> I have just fitted a brand new hard drive into this machine, and all the files on it are R/O, the whole disk has mounted the same. How do I change this please?