[00:15] <Osmodivs_> Hello. I keep getting this error on my Webbrowers (Chromium and Firefox) skin color is wrong, red seem like blue and blue seems like red, What could be wrong here? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/31596
[00:16] <Unit193> Looks like that may be more of a flash issue than browser, or am I wrong?
[00:17] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, I guess, is there a way to solve this?
[00:18] <Unit193> Open a terminal and paste   dpkg -l |grep flash
[00:19] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, ii  flashplugin-installer                  11.2.202.235ubuntu0.12.04.1             Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:19] <Osmodivs_> ii  get-flash-videos                       1.25~git2011.09.26-2                    video downloader for various Flash-based video hosting sites
[00:20] <Unit193> !partner
[00:20] <Unit193> Then  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[00:59] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, Nope, still blue, I do not know whats wrong with flash, Is this a common bug/issue?
[01:01] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, It worked!!
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, How do you know so much?
[01:04] <Unit193> I don't know that much, many know more.
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> You have solved 2 problems in the same day
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> thx man.
[01:05] <Unit193> Glad you got it.
[01:12] <Sentynel> flash hardware acceleration seems to be unreliable as heck even on windows, for some reason =/
[01:23] <Unit193> And sadly, flash won't be going for a while yet.
[04:37] <bioterror> Evixion, behave!
[04:39] <Yos> yo bioterror :)
[04:39] <bioterror> hi
[04:39] <Yos> lubuntu looks great :)
[04:39] <bioterror> good
[06:19] <stevmmm> how long shudd lubuntu take to boot on a VM ?
[06:20] <stevmmm> got a thinkpad
[06:20] <stevmmm> 768MB RAM
[06:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> a few minutes
[06:25] <stevmmm> how much from a VM using a live CD. Still a few mins?
[06:25] <stevmmm> or more?
[06:27] <stevmmm> cd light seems to be on all the time
[06:27] <stevmmm> and mouse is fine in host machine, but wont move on the VM
[06:29] <stevmmm> (live cd is actually a mounted iso)
[06:37] <stevmmm> ok virtual box says the CD is still running half an hour later. (i assume the green light means running? whatever isgoing on is odd.
[06:38] <stevmmm> perhaps ill try again,allocate more mem to it
[06:38] <stevmmm> ...
[06:40] <jakob_l> have you verified the iso checksum?
[06:42] <stevmmm> no
[06:42] <stevmmm> i dled it from the lubuntu site
[06:42] <stevmmm> why need checksum?
[06:42] <mysteriousdarren> check integrity
[06:43] <stevmmm> ok
[06:44] <stevmmm> ill try that in a little while try a feww oter things first.
[06:47] <stevmmm> selecting the "CHECKDISK FOR DEFECTS" OPTION in the menu
[06:47] <stevmmm> will that include a checksum?
[06:50] <jakob_l> yes, I think that is a checksum test
[06:50] <stevmmm> ok - it said its fine
[06:50] <stevmmm> no errors found
[06:55] <jakob_l> could also be virtual box settings
[07:25] <Yos> what template should I use for creating my own wiki page with the goal of becoming a lubuntu member ?
[07:28] <Unit193> You look at a few and pick what one you like best.
[07:31] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ocean , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHook and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/idleone are a few examples. ;)
[07:32] <Yos> yes, but I want to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/yosef.karo and it is asking me which template to use or to use a blank one
[07:33] <Yos> ah, I get it I think
[07:34] <Unit193> !membership
[07:38] <Yos> I got the impression it was easier to join lubuntu ;)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/981267/
[07:40] <Unit193> Yeah... Wording is always tricky, the first was a "Ubuntu Member", second is a (L)ubuntu team member.
[07:43] <Yos> I just want to be part of the lubuntu team, got to start somewhere :)
[07:45] <Unit193> Cool, well welcome then!
[07:46] <Yos> Thank you :)
[07:46] <Yos> I'm looking for ways to contribute if you know of any beginner friendly ways to get started
[07:49] <Unit193> There are many ways to contribute, doc/wiki is one good way.
[07:51] <Yos> I'd also like to get involved in testing and qa
[07:54] <Yos> failing here too
[08:50] <stevmmm> ok - slitaz works in vbox just fine. lubuntu doesnt. plenty of RAM allocated. Why the fail? Any ideas?
[08:51] <stevmmm> it hangs after taking ages to load the desktop and icons
[08:51] <bioterror> your vbox is broken. lots of people has tested lubuntu on vbox ;)
[08:52] <stevmmm> :(
[08:53] <stevmmm> SMBBUS BASE ADDRESS UNINITIALISED, upgrade bios of force add...
[08:53] <stevmmm> ?
[08:53] <stevmmm> during boot tolive cd in vbox
[08:58] <bioterror> http://www.puppychau.com/archives/62
[09:00] <stevmmm> thanx bio
[09:00] <bioterror> did it work?
[09:05] <stevmmm> not tried yet,when i do will advise
[09:06] <stevmmm> Error is caused by Ubuntu trying to load the smbus module which doesn’t exists in VirtualBox guest. It doesn’t seem to affect the function of the guest machine, but it’s kind of disconcerting having that error every time the machine starts up. <<<thats enough to tell me it doesnt matter
[09:07] <stevmmm> no need to try it - im really after understandunbg why the live cd wont work
[09:07] <stevmmm> and that clearly is the problem
[09:07] <stevmmm> *isnt
[09:07] <stevmmm> thanks anyway. its anoither possible cause eliminated
[09:13] <stevmmm> ok i can finally get lubuntu to load in the vm, but cant browse the web - it doesnt find web pages
[11:29] <gonk> Howdy, is the syna[ptic package manager the same as in ubuntu? can i get all the same programs?
[11:29] <Yos> looks the same to me :)
[11:30] <Yos> I just switched to lubuntu yesterday
[11:33] <dove_g1> gonk, in Lubuntu you have Lubuntu Software Center
[11:33] <dove_g1> synaptic is the same
[15:38] <pcman> hi
[15:39] <Yos> hello
[17:25] <Dago619> Anyone available?
[17:27] <bioterror> !ask | Dago619
[17:30] <Dago619> what are the minimum packages needed to run ubuntu-one? I want to keep my Thinkpad X120e (AMD E-240 processor) fast but want the convenience of Ubuntu-one.
[17:31] <bioterror> apt-cache depends ubuntu-one
[17:32] <shandell> Hello
[17:33] <shandell> I'm having a boot problem, can anyone help?
[17:33] <bioterror> give us more details
[17:34] <shandell> Of course :)
[17:35] <shandell> When I start the laptop (old Toshiba Satellite) I boot into lubuntu, then I get a blank screen with a blinky cursor line
[17:35] <shandell> after about 30-45 seconds I get this:
[17:36] <shandell> Busybox v1.18.4(Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a list of built in commands (initramfs)
[17:37] <bioterror> mmmm
[17:37] <shandell> Then after a few seconds (I don't have time to read commands)
[17:37] <shandell> I get this:
[17:38] <shandell> udevd[##]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:###################### [180]
[17:38] <shandell> I few different number variations scroll
[17:38] <shandell> then I get:
[17:39] <bioterror> that's a fresh installation?
[17:39] <shandell> udevd[##]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:###################### [180] terminated by signal 9 (Killed)
[17:39] <shandell> Ummm I installed it about a month ago
[17:39] <shandell> That's the first time it's been shutdown
[17:40] <shandell> but it's been restarted over a dozen times
[17:40] <bioterror> and the lubuntu version is?
[17:40] <shandell> I think it's 11 or 12
[17:42] <shandell> I downloaded the boot and initrd files from the ubuntu distro repository and put them in the boot folder of the old system
[17:42] <shandell> Then I did a net install
[17:43] <bioterror> what
[17:46] <shandell> what...?
[17:46] <bioterror> you used live media to put that stuff into /boot ?
[17:49] <shandell> I downloaded the files from my computer and put them on a usb stick then I put them into /boot so that it would show up in the boot menu. The Toshiba had OpenSuSE on it at that time and my husband didn't like it at all
[17:49] <shandell> So I followed instructions online for a net install without booting from USB or CD because his computer can't do either
[17:50] <bioterror> you seem to have quite a mess there :P
[17:50] <shandell> And I couldn't get UnetBootin for it
[17:50] <bioterror> unetbootin is not needed nowdays
[17:50] <bioterror> you can just dd ;)
[17:50] <shandell> Oh man I had problems right from the start
[17:50] <shandell> dd?
[17:51] <bioterror> yep
[17:51] <shandell> I searched for a way to get it and I wasn't getting anywhere
[17:51] <bioterror> is it possible to reinstall your toshiba satellite?
[17:51] <shandell> After I installed lubuntu there was no GUI at all, only command lime
[17:51] <shandell> I don't know how to do it without accessing the OS GUI
[17:52] <bioterror> hmmm
[17:52] <bioterror> oh
[17:52] <shandell> I still have the boot and initrd on a USB somewhere lol But I'm not so familiar with the command line to add them to /boot that way
[17:53] <bioterror> do you have important stuff in your home directory?
[17:53] <shandell> Not really.... It's my husbands computer, I think he's got a few seasons of ER seeding
[17:53] <shandell> Oh!!
[17:54] <bioterror> but ER is important, if it has George Clooney episodes
[17:54] <shandell> That's right, he said that he's only got 2GB of space left on his HDD
[17:54] <shandell> LOL
[17:54] <shandell> Indeed :D
[17:54] <bioterror> or those noah wyle
[17:54] <shandell> It does lol the first 4 seasons I think
[17:54] <shandell> I know right :)
[17:54] <shandell> Anyway, would the limited space have anything to do with the startup?
[17:55] <bioterror> no
[17:55] <shandell> Hmmm
[17:55] <bioterror> 2GB is enuff
[17:55] <shandell> I thought so....
[17:55] <shandell> I'm guessing that from your question, I have to try and reinstall?
[17:56] <bioterror> it would be easiest way...
[17:56] <shandell> I will learn anything I have to, so as to prevent that
[17:56] <Listen1> Lubuntu 12.04 with PCManFM 0.9.10, unable to connect to Windoze shares
[17:56] <bioterror> Listen1, smb://ip.add.ress./share/ does not work?
[17:57] <Listen1> Checking
[17:57] <bioterror> shandell, I'm thinking if that could be saved with chroot somehow
[17:58] <shandell> bioterror, what specifically could be saved?
[17:58] <Listen1> bioterror: Yes, that works, but it worked without that before -- just by clicking
[18:00] <bioterror> that computer should then broadcast it shares to "network"
[18:00] <shandell> afk 5 min :)
[18:01] <Listen1> bioterror: In any case, thanks! it is really nice to have the workaround.
[18:01] <bioterror> Listen1, if you type just smb:///
[18:01] <bioterror> does it show you what?
[18:01] <Listen1> no
[18:02] <Listen1> bioterror: 'Failed to retrieve share list from server'
[18:03] <bioterror> is it windows machine or linux which is working as the samba server?
[18:04] <Listen1> bioterror: It is a Qnap NAS (Linux based)
[18:04] <shandell> back, but I can wait while you work that share problem out :) Want to roll a smoke anyway lol
[18:04] <bioterror> Listen1, can you restart the samba service?
[18:04] <Listen1> bioterror: and there are a number of Windoze machines on the lan
[18:05] <Listen1> bioterror: I'll give that a spin. Back later. Thanks.
[18:07] <shandell> back
[18:08] <bioterror> shandell, are you sure that the hard drive is not failing?
[18:09] <shandell> Oh yeah, I almost forgot :p After the udevd things stop, I can type commands like reboot. I don't know any others though.
[18:09] <bioterror> I would consider running some disk checks
[18:09] <shandell> would the memcheck in the boot menu do it?
[18:09] <shandell> I think it's memcheck...
[18:11] <shandell> How do I run a disk check?
[18:16] <shandell> bioterror..?
[18:16] <bioterror> shandell, I believe that the hard drive is failing
[18:16] <bioterror> and Is uggest to run some surface scans for it
[18:17] <shandell> Okay, how do I do that?
[18:17] <shandell> I've never had to do anything like this before...
[18:18] <shandell> It's currently displaying the boot menu
[18:18] <bioterror> sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb1
[18:18] <bioterror> something like that
[18:19] <bioterror> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37659/the-beginners-guide-to-linux-disk-utilities/
[18:19] <shandell> Will I be able to do that if I hit 'c' and the <grub> shows up?
[18:20] <shandell> I'll give your command a shot, hold on a sec...
[18:22] <bioterror> or if you can boot a usb or cd with ubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu or what ever linux distribution
[18:23] <shandell> Not possible:(
[18:23] <bioterror> as what I checked that your proble, there has been disk failures
[18:24] <shandell> I can't check from anywhere right now
[18:25] <shandell> I tried after the errors stopped and nothing, I also tried from the grub command line and I couldn't from there either
[18:26] <bioterror> you really need to boot into a working environment
[18:27] <shandell> That would help a lot :) Any ideas?
[18:28] <bioterror> use another computer to fix yourself a working ubuntu installation media, for example
[18:30] <shandell> Okay, I have the help commands for initramfs
[18:31] <shandell> a couple look promising, chroot, mount, unmount, test....
[18:32] <shandell> The Toshiba can't boot from CD or USB, we've tried :( That's why everything so far has been net installed
[18:33] <gordonjcp> shandell: take the disk out, install lubuntu on it, put it back
[18:33] <gordonjcp> simple
[18:33] <shandell> You mean the HDD?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> yes
[18:34] <gordonjcp> if the target machine is being a bitch take it out of the equation
[18:36] <shandell> Okay I'll try, brb and thanks bioterror and gordonjcp :D
[18:39] <bioterror> gordonjcp, it's a laptop
[18:40] <bioterror> but weird computer if it cant boot a CD
[18:42] <gordonjcp> bioterror: and...?
[18:42] <gordonjcp> pull the drive, stick it in something sane, install your OS
[18:42] <gordonjcp> it may have a weirdass BIOS, Toshiba are *notorious* for that
[18:43] <bioterror> yeah, I had one back in the 2006 as a work laptop
[18:43] <bioterror> and yes, I trashed it :D
[18:58] <shandell> bioterror?
[18:58] <bioterror> yes?
[18:58] <shandell> I'm going to try plugging the HDD into my laptop
[18:59] <shandell> Will you be around for awhile?
[18:59] <bioterror> well, we put kids to in-law's, so I cant guarantee that :D
[19:01] <shandell> lol okay well if you're not, thanks for all your help :)
[19:16] <bodhi_zazen> Is there anyone on the lubuntu team interested in documentation for lubuntu users ? ie wiki ?
[19:20] <shandell> Allo?
[19:20] <shandell> bioterror: I switched the HDD's and Lubuntu boots up just fine on my computer Gateway something-or-other only two years old
[19:21] <shandell> And my HDD booted up just fine on the Toshiba
[19:22] <bioterror> everything is now okay?
[19:22] <shandell> Don't know for sure... I haven't switched the HDD's back yet. Just wanted to let you know that his HDD isn't shot :)
[19:23] <bioterror> good
[19:23] <shandell> Any idea what else could be causing the problem?
[19:25] <shandell> Is it possible for the HDD to wiggle out of place and maybe disconnect from typing too hard on the keyboard?
[19:27] <bioterror> there's only one way to find it out
[19:28] <shandell> Yeah I guess lol I'll be back in a bit then :)
[19:45] <murple> In openbox, I am trying to bind the windows (super) key to open the "start menu" as I have been used to this from Windowsland. I am able to bind SUPER+z and SUPER-x, but as soon as I only use the SUPER key (W) it uses the actual W instead of SUPER. I'm sorry for the poor explanation. does anyone understand what I mean and know the solution? I am editing lxde-rc.xml and using <keybind key="W"> and <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
[19:46] <bodhi_zazen> murple: I think the key you want to bind is called meta
[19:47] <bioterror> that binding was removed actually
[19:47] <murple> bodhi_zazen: Are you sure? Because W-Z effectively binds the SUPER key + z key.?
[19:47] <murple> bioterror,: how so?
[19:47] <bioterror> when you pressed windows button and like t for terminal, it flashed the menu
[19:47] <bodhi_zazen> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
[19:47] <murple> meta doesn't seem to work.
[19:48] <bodhi_zazen> "M 	Meta key "
[19:48] <bodhi_zazen> not sure if lubuntu changed that
[19:48] <murple> W	 Super key (Usually bound to the Windows key on keyboards which have one)
[19:48] <bioterror> meta = alt or esc
[19:49] <murple> hmm.. I'm not sure I understand, but using <keybind key="meta"> does not work as intended.
[19:49] <murple> I think the problem is I don'
[19:50] <murple> t want to use it as a modifier, the key W and M are listed under Modifiers, but I want to bind the key by itself.
[19:52] <murple> After reading that link more carefully, I think I've got to use xev to identify the physical key and somehow use the numerical value to bind it.
[19:53] <murple> Ill probably figure that out, although it wasn't quite as easy as I thought/hoped.
[19:53] <murple> Thanks for the help.
[19:53] <murple> bbl
[19:56] <shandell> bioterror: Everything is A-OK :D My guess is that there was a connection issue with the HDD. I'll have to tell my husband to cool it on the keyboard stabbing lol
[19:57] <shandell> Thanks again for all your help :D I would never have thought to switch HDD's, I guess now I know lol
[19:57] <bioterror> thank gordonjcp for that
[19:57] <bioterror> :D
[19:57] <shandell> Oh! Oops lol Thanks gordonjcp!!
[19:58] <shandell> Time to eat :) Ttyl *wave*
[20:38] <murple> In case anyone was interested, the correct keybind was Super_L or Super_R. The only minuscule annoyance now is that the menu cannot be hidden by hitting the Windows key once more. (i.e. toggle the menu on and off with the same key). Also, this slightly screws up other keyboard shortcuts such as Win+R for the run box. If I hit Win+R quickly, the run box is activated, but the window also shows up because I hit the Win key first.
[20:39] <murple> In other words, once I bind the Super_L (Left Win key) on it's one, this hotkey is fired along with all other hotkeys which use Super_L as a modifier.
[20:41] <bioterror> Fri22:47 <bioterror> that binding was removed actually
[20:41] <bioterror> Fri22:47 <bioterror> when you pressed windows button and like t for terminal, it flashed the menu
[20:48] <murple> bioterror: I don't understand what you mean?
[20:49] <murple> bioterror: When I do Super_L + t, the menu launches as well the terminal. Both hotkeys fire.
[20:50] <bioterror> yep
[20:50] <bioterror> as I said, that's why we removed that binding where super key opens lxde menu
[20:51] <murple> Oh, now I think I understand where you're coming from. You mean the keybinding Super_L to launch the menu was originally a default value, but it was removed to avoid the problems I'm now experiencing.
[20:51] <murple> I see.
[20:51] <bioterror> yes
[20:52] <murple> hmm...
[20:53] <murple> I'll have to find something else to bind the menu to, but I prefer a single key and I had gotten quite used to Super_L. Perhaps Super_L + Alt, but it's not quite as elegant.
[20:53] <murple> bioterror: Is there a way to hide the menu?
[20:53] <bioterror> I would use ctrl+esc for bringing up the menu
[20:53] <murple> bioterror: That way I could perhaps code my own little bash/Python script to toggle the menu's visibility with the same keybind.
[20:55] <murple> bioterror: ctrl+esc seems to be the default as it works on my setup but I have certainly not configured it. I think it's a horribly difficult keybind. I don't have particularly small hands or short fingers, but to reach from Ctrl all the way up to Esc is just not going to happen.
[20:58] <bioterror> my left hand fingers can easily reach on 25.5" scale guitar from 1st fret to sixth, if I really stretch, it will make it 7 but wont sound clear ;)
[20:58] <bioterror> so not a problem that kind of small reaching out
[20:59] <murple> bioterror: Well, let's just hope for my sake that some of the other individuals involved aren't quite as dexterous as you :)
[21:01] <murple> I think A-Super_L to bring up the menu is a good alternative.
[21:01] <bioterror> but honestly
[21:01] <murple> I also really appreciate the fact that I can use openbox --restart to test the configuration quickly as opposed to having to log in and out which is what many unseaoned users do.
[21:01] <bioterror> for what you need that menu?
[21:03] <murple> bioterror: he. To appease my old habbits, also, I'm relatively new to Linux in general, but I generally appreciate being able to customize things "just-so".
[21:03] <bioterror> replace "lxpanel run" with gmrun, and you get ten times better application launcher for super+r or alt+f2
[21:03] <murple> Being able to access and navigate the menu quickly from the keyboard is a nice feature.
[21:04] <bioterror> you can then easily tab complete applications you want to execute
[21:04] <murple> hmmmm "Software Center" says no packages found.
[21:04] <bioterror> and choose with up and down arrows already used commands
[21:04] <murple> what's gmrun?
[21:04] <bioterror> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmrun/
[21:05] <murple> apt-get install did the trick...
[21:05] <murple> err
[21:05] <murple> it's minimalistic.
[21:06] <murple> there's no auto-completion, how is this better than the standard lxpanelctl run?
[21:07] <bioterror> use the tab
[21:07] <murple> right...
[21:10] <murple> I'll give it a try, I've binded it to Super+G : ) Any other good advise for an enthusiastic lxde newcomer?
[21:13] <murple> Another small annoyance is that the mute button only mutes, it does not Unmute. (amixer -q sset Master toggle)
[21:13] <bioterror> should unmute
[21:15] <murple> I agree, but it doesn't. I've tried to run the command from the terminal/run box but with the same result.
[21:16] <murple> I can still adjust the volume slider with the other keys, (+/- 3%), but as long as it stays muted that doesn't change anything.
[21:17] <murple> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485
[21:50] <murple> bioterror: Thanks again for your help, I'm off!
[21:54] <salamander_> hi there, Im having problems with flash. Im runing lubuntu 12.04, just installed it. I have installed also firefox and flashplugin-installer but when I go to youtube there is a black window instead of a video
[21:54] <Elchzard> Under SEH Team