[00:08] <guestthor> Does anyong have a link to a set of intructions for installing wine on 12.04?
[00:09] <Debolaz> This is the 12.10 support channel, might get more response in #ubuntu :)
[00:10] <guestthor> ah thanks.
[00:14] <kayve> oh jee  RTFM stomache ache  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[00:14] <kayve> ::fighting urge to play chess online::
[00:17] <kayve> Isn't it just in the Ubuntu Sofware Center?
[00:18] <Debolaz> Yes.
[00:18] <Debolaz> You may have noticed that a lot of software in the ubuntu software center are actually available on other places on the internet as well. :)
[00:18] <kayve> are you that guy with the 106% body fat?  {:)
[00:18] <Debolaz> Yes.
[00:19] <kayve> Ubuntu Software Center is like falling off a log.  It's a dang shame. Feels like using Uncle BIll.
[00:19] <kayve> oops.  that poor guy guestthor already left!  {:P
[00:19] <kayve> oh well.  {:)
[00:20] <kayve> so I found the actual manual now  https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html
[00:20] <kayve> avoided chess opened up Spider Solitaire  {:P  I'm such a bad boy.
[00:20] <kayve> Spider is interruptable, unlike chess.
[00:21] <kayve> 3 0 bullet chess lose on time
[00:21] <kayve> don't do the 2 0 or the 0 10
[00:21]  * Debolaz wish he had more memory on this machine so he could run EVE while doing other stuff.
[00:22] <kayve> surprisingly, I have 289G on this partition.  Guess I've been cutting down on the porn  {:P
[00:23] <kayve> oh oh faux pas?  {:P
[00:23] <kayve> OT
[00:24] <kayve> let's see.. now I have my Ubuntu iso, and the VB dingy from Oracle.
[00:24] <kayve> Wow.  Oracle.
[00:24] <kayve> Suddenly I am feeling somewhat different about things.
[00:28] <Debolaz> Why is that?
[00:28] <Daekdroom> Oracle isn't opensource friendly.
[00:28] <Debolaz> Oracle is one of the top 10 sponsors of development on the Linux kernel.
[00:29] <Debolaz> They do occasionally make very dumb choices in business, but that's their problem.
[00:32] <Debolaz> Open source projects Oracle maintains: VirtualBox, MySQL (And InnoDB), BTRFS, Berkeley DB, NetBeans, etc.
[00:33] <Debolaz> And they donated OpenOffice to Apache instead of just letting it rot.
[00:33] <Boohbah> now they need to buy postgres, db2, and sqlite
[00:33] <kayve> uh.. biscuit issues.  Can't find my reserve cardamom  {:(
[00:33] <Debolaz> So perhaps you could explain what you mean by Oracle not being open source friendly? :)
[00:34] <kayve> I didn't think I said that.
[00:34] <kayve> I just said I feel different about things
[00:34] <kayve> Wow. Oracle.  Kewl.  That's all.
[00:34] <Debolaz> Actually addressed to Daekdroom.
[00:34] <Debolaz> Sorry. :)
[00:34] <kayve> preheat is done and I can't find my cardamom  !  {:(
[00:43] <kayve> so what I need to figure out how to do is install my Ubuntu 12.04 iso onto my new Virtual Box.. I guess I have to start by creating disk partitions?
[00:44] <kayve> The Host is my Ubuntu running on my bare metal, right?
[00:45] <kayve> I guess I start from this chapter? https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html
[00:45] <kayve> I want to create a new "guest OS"
[00:45] <kayve> right?
[00:45] <Debolaz> Yes.
[00:46] <Debolaz> Host is referring to the system you are currently using. Guest is referring to the virtualized container.
[00:46] <kayve> oh wait.. but I need to get a virtual machine running first?
[00:50] <Debolaz> You probably want this: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#gui-createvm
[00:56] <kayve> default 512MB good choice?
[00:58] <Debolaz> For just testing, then 512 MB is fine.
[00:58] <Debolaz> You can always increase it later if you want to.
[00:58] <Boohbah> it will work, increase it if you intend to do anything intensive
[00:58] <Boohbah> right
[00:59]  * Debolaz uses 1024 GB on his USB stick instance.
[01:00] <Debolaz> Even without swap, I never had a problem. So 512 MB should be just dandy for normal use.
[01:01] <Boohbah> Debolaz: dang that's a lot of RAM!
[01:02] <kayve> Oh shoot. what was that 512MB  I think I missed a word or two.  Now I feel like I don't want 8GB for hard disk on this thing.. do I need that much?
[01:02] <Debolaz> Btw, unrelated, Unity has a small bug if you run an encrypted filesystem without LVM on top. It shows the root filesystem as a button in the launcher.
[01:02] <Debolaz> kayve: 512MB is fine.
[01:06] <bjsnider> Debolaz, you have a 1tb usb stick?
[01:07] <Debolaz> bjsnider: No, but apparently I have 1 TB ram. :o
[01:08] <bjsnider> that would be a neat trick
[01:14] <kayve> 512MB was a different thing.  is that "virtual RAM?"  Now the default value is 8GB and I feel like reducing it.
[01:14] <kayve> I DO have 286GB free.. but .. heh  {:)
[01:15] <kayve> got distracted by Facebook  {:P
[01:15] <kayve> talking about the Karl Rove electoral college map
[01:16] <kayve> Rove has Obama 217 Romney 90 with uh.. bunch of yellow "undecideds"
[01:17] <kayve> I am terrible, huh?  How am I EVER going to work in this field  {:P
[01:18] <kayve> 73 Lean Obama 71 Lean Romney 87 toss up
[03:36] <Fudge> hi is 800kb too big to show someone my syslog, my machien locks up when i switch to a console, have modprobe speakup_soft start=1 and running espeakkup as root, think it could be pulse related
[03:58] <Boohbah> paste a part of the syslog
[03:58] <Boohbah> then install logrotate to keep your logs to a manageable size
[04:02] <Fudge> okey
[04:03] <Fudge> logrotate is already installed, ill grab a couple of lines
[04:10] <Fudge> Boohbah  which would be the best log to check, i cant find the lines in syslog now :$
[04:13] <Fudge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/981062/
[04:18] <Fudge> May 11 13:31:52 gigabyte kernel: [    4.853483] xhci_hcd 0000:02:00.0: ERROR: unexpected command completion code 0x11.
[04:18] <Fudge> May 11 13:31:52 gigabyte kernel: [    4.853487] usb 8-2: Not enough bandwidth for altsetting 0
[04:18] <Fudge> so this happens when I switch to tty1
[04:29] <Fudge> bbl :)
[05:25] <Fudge> bk
[05:32] <Fudge> Boohbah  did you have time to look
[05:32] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[05:32] <eagles0513875> i am getting constant random crashes on ubuntu 12.10 as well as 12.04 before of the kubuntu-plasma-shell on my netbook the paste bin is here http://pastebin.com/G7YN70Yk i asked in kde and they told me its kubuntu specific. can someone walk me through how to fix it?
[05:36] <Boohbah> Fudge: sorry, i don't have a 12.10 installation
[05:36] <Boohbah> perhaps i should get one
[05:38] <eagles0513875_> hey guys
[05:39] <eagles0513875_> i need some help fixing an issue with the kubuntu netbook plasma shell as its randomly crashing for me here is the back trace http://pastebin.com/G7YN70Yk
[05:56] <eagles0513875_> michwhat i mentioned in kubuntu devel is that a good place to get help to fix the issue
[05:57] <eagles0513875_> micahg: ^
[06:41] <Fudge> Boohbah  i find it very good, other than my not being able to switch to cli
[06:41] <Fudge> it may of course be something with my text to speech requeirements and that i ahd tried loading the speakup software modules speakup+soft start=1 with package espeakup to give me speech at the console
[10:28] <obelus> Quick question: At what point do the daily images become available?
[10:41] <chris|> obelus, what do you mean by "at what point"?
[10:42] <obelus> As in at what point in development, or what point in time.
[10:42] <obelus> I visited the website for dailies today and it had precise images
[10:43] <chris|> obelus, scroll down
[10:43] <obelus> I did
[10:43] <obelus> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ only has precise that I can see
[10:44] <chris|> try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:44] <obelus> Ah. Alright, I wonder why the alternate images aren't showing for quantal yet
[10:44] <obelus> Thanks though =)
[10:46] <chris|> you're welcome, and although alternate is not yet available as an image, there is always debootstrap :)
[11:03] <snadge> i just installed precise then dist upgraded to it :p
[11:06] <chris|> snadge, too easy :p
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:18] <wilee-nilee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/  this is the quantal daily
[12:18] <wilee-nilee> but yeah no alternate yet
[15:18] <obelus> chris|: Hmm. Haven't tried using debootstrap before. I might try that now to see how I like it