[06:30] <jo-erlend> any good couches available?
[06:32] <jo-erlend> no, I meant coaches :)
[06:33] <jo-erlend> went to sleep tired of Ubuntu and  I woke up tired of Ubuntu, but there's so many things I need to do. I could really use some enthuasiasm.
[07:20] <mhall119> jo-erlend: you are part of a movement that is both inspiring and terrifying to the most powerful people in the world
[07:25] <jo-erlend> perfect. I only aspire to be an individual. It took me seven years to even ask to become member of this Ubuntu thing, and I didn't really want to, except I was asked to be the Norwegian LoCo, which made it necessary in order to appear professional – for the sake of Ubuntu.
[07:31] <jo-erlend> I won't even make a deal out of that remark about being part of a movement. I am not. I've made a point of telling the Norwegian Loco exactly that. I am not part of one, and I am not trying to build one. I believe that if you want to be best, then just learn from those who are better. And be humble about it, so that you can always take another step.
[07:33] <jo-erlend> in general, I'd recommend that noone be graduated from school without reading the Idiot. I think that's the most powerful education anyone can get.
[07:42] <jo-erlend> mhall119, one thing you should know about me, is that I'm the kinda guy who makes mullahs and nazis shake hand. This is why I'm never afraid of creating conflicts, as long as I'm the obvious target of any anger that might occur.
[09:12] <jo-erlend> straight before release, there were changes to the audio system. I'm still having issues.
[11:47] <s-fox> Hi peeps
[12:38] <gautxori> hi. no time for introduction: is it possible to get https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ contents for offline reading, in an easy way? (i was nonsensely trying to reap the contents with no success)
[14:24] <s-fox> Back :)
[15:46] <technoviking> s-fox: I did change the mod colors to match the theme, thought it would be nice for mods to be Ubuntu orange to respect the idea of community
[15:48] <nothingspecial> I see technoviking, nice :)
[15:49] <nothingspecial> It's looking great, is there a way to make it default
[15:50] <s-fox> technoviking,  cool just checking that it wasn't an accident, it looks really good
[15:51] <s-fox> technoviking,  nice work :D
[15:51] <technoviking> thanks,
[15:51] <s-fox> can it be made the default?
[15:52] <technoviking> nothingspecial: I would like to tweak it a bit and get the graphic loaded locally (now loading from my works web cluster.
[15:53] <nothingspecial> Keep up the good work technoviking :D
[15:53] <s-fox> technoviking,  i bet i could get our technical support to upload it onto the server
[15:53] <s-fox> Do you want me to drop an email?
[15:54] <technoviking> Think I'm getting access
[15:54] <s-fox> Great
[15:54] <technoviking> But you can ask, just need access to the images dir
[15:54] <s-fox> Okay, i'll send an email.
[15:55] <technoviking> many thanks
[15:56] <s-fox> the reason i asked if they could be reverted back to red was that some of the older posts explain what the different colours are.  They'd need to be updated as we find them ;)
[15:56] <s-fox> oh and my pink title still is awesome haha
[16:01] <s-fox> technoviking,  email sent. i cc'd you too
[16:25]  * czajkowski head desks at design mailing list 
[16:25] <czajkowski> enough to make a person unsubscribe from it
[16:37]  * jussi waves
[16:38] <jussi> Finished at the last job, cleaned the office and left. Onto new things :)
[16:45] <IdleOne> jussi: yay! :)
[16:50] <Pici> three day weekend!
[16:53] <forestpiskie> nice one - I just had a 4 day weekend
[16:59] <nothingspecial> Loads of enthusiasm for your work technoviking :D
[17:01] <popey> jo-erlend: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[17:03] <IdleOne> /cs k popey DROP THE CAPS!
[17:03] <nigelb> popey: ?
[17:33] <czajkowski> unity deisng mailing list
[17:33] <czajkowski> :/
[17:33] <czajkowski> fecking hell
[17:33] <AlanBell> indeed
[17:35] <AlanBell> it was inevitable
[17:36] <forestpiskie> such is inevitabilty
[17:37] <AlanBell> if someone it testing the boundaries for long enough, they will find them
[17:37] <forestpiskie> have you all had wonderful time in the far reaches of America - do you want to know what the weather is like now you are leaving somewhere with a climate
[17:37] <AlanBell> and now we will have a less open list. Thanks.
[17:37] <forestpiskie> AlanBell: almost childlike then ...
[17:37] <AlanBell> spot on
[17:37] <forestpiskie> oh - seem to havbe wandered into something I'd rather not have then lol
[17:54] <jo-erlend> popey and everyone... I'm sorry. I should've known better. Having read through all those "in christ" messages, I just had enough. I thought that if I explained why it affects people in a bad way – and not just as a matter of "law" – then I could get the message across. Of course, that's not how the internet works and I should've known that. I've unsubscribed.
[18:08] <popey> jono: unity-design needs a kicking
[18:09] <jono> popey, eh?
[18:09] <popey> we have religion and now ascii art
[18:09] <popey> from ubuntu members
[18:09] <jono> hmmm
[18:09] <jono> I will check into it
[18:10] <popey> mark has suggested we have a separate list, like the devel and devel-discuss split
[18:11] <jo-erlend> yes, I've decided to drop out of the Ubuntu Members team as well. I'll just finish this last year focusing only on the Norwegian loco and then I'm off to explore the landscape.
[18:11] <popey> sheesh
[18:12] <jo-erlend> oh, it's not a response to this. It's been brewing for a while.
[18:19] <jo-erlend> there's a growing gap between what we claim to be and what we actually are. App Development is the most important part of that. There's a big effort to make it look as if Ubuntu is good for App Development, but there's no work being done in order to actually improve it. I very much believe in what Ubuntu wants to be, but I no longer think it's an attainable goal.
[18:20] <popey> czajkowski: ping
[18:22] <czajkowski> popey: ping
[18:23] <popey> where you at?
[18:23] <forestpiskie> not Ireland I assume popey
[18:23] <czajkowski> on  call
[18:23] <popey> yeah where?
[18:24] <forestpiskie> popey: I 'd like to have a chat when you are back in Blighty - when you've got a 10 minutesih lump of time
[18:25] <czajkowski> popey: heading to 1st floor area wher ethe donuts are
[18:25] <popey> am in the chairs near escalator
[18:25] <popey> i have your camera
[18:25] <czajkowski> ahh ok
[18:25] <czajkowski> cool
[18:26] <forestpiskie> lol
[18:26] <forestpiskie> IRC is great
[18:31] <czajkowski> me too cant see you
[18:36] <popey> czajkowski: had to run off to fix laptop, it died
[18:36] <popey> back now
[18:37] <czajkowski> popey: me too over with AlanBell at the Ubutnu user table
[18:38] <popey> k
[22:30] <balloons> AlanBell, thanks for the orca demo :-) It's definitely nicer than when I went through it last time
[22:30] <AlanBell> it is better than it was :)
[22:31] <AlanBell> accessibility session is now in grand ballroom B if you are free
[23:55] <jcastro> technoviking: Threads in Forum : Ubuntu Clound /Juju	
[23:55] <jcastro> typo. :)
[23:56] <technoviking> not me, bodhi did that:) will fix
[23:56] <technoviking> jcastro: you wanted something slightly different
[23:57] <jcastro> Ubuntu Cloud and Juju makes more sense actually
[23:57] <jcastro> "Ubuntu Cloud Infratructure/Guest and juju" would be too much I think
[23:58]  * MrChrisDruif agrees