| UForgotten | w | 02:39 |
|---|---|---|
| Shadow__X | there is no more jamu right? i should just remove it from cron? | 05:25 |
| Batshua | Anyone awake? | 06:25 |
| babycapsule | except me | 06:25 |
| Batshua | … Mythbackend isn't seeing my tuner card. | 06:26 |
| Batshua | I'm … concerned, because I'm not sure how to set up the card if'n it can't see it. :/ | 06:27 |
| Batshua | Uhm, what can I do? | 06:27 |
| babycapsule | lspci | 06:27 |
| babycapsule | then you know the id, model and chip of your turner card | 06:28 |
| babycapsule | then modprobe | 06:29 |
| Batshua | Uhm. | 06:30 |
| Batshua | I don't think I see it? | 06:30 |
| babycapsule | lspci? | 06:30 |
| Batshua | If I pastebin the log can you check it for me? | 06:30 |
| Batshua | Yeah, I am looking at the output and I don't see anything that looks like my tuner card | 06:30 |
| babycapsule | no | 06:30 |
| Batshua | maybe I'm reading it wrong. | 06:30 |
| Batshua | Oh balls. | 06:31 |
| Batshua | I'm thinking maybe the card isn't seated properly. | 06:31 |
| Batshua | … which is not cool. | 06:31 |
| babycapsule | maybe your pci id database is too old | 06:31 |
| Batshua | Hrm? | 06:31 |
| babycapsule | you have to update it | 06:31 |
| Batshua | How does one fix that? | 06:31 |
| babycapsule | a command | 06:31 |
| babycapsule | #sudo update-pciids, then reboot, then lspci again | 06:32 |
| babycapsule | it may work, or may not | 06:32 |
| babycapsule | make sure that you have the lastest pci database on your debian | 06:33 |
| Batshua | I have to reboot? Okay. Hrm. | 06:33 |
| Batshua | Instead of rebooting, I'm gonna shut down and reseat the card first. | 06:33 |
| Batshua | It SHOULD be fine, but it's not seeing it. | 06:33 |
| babycapsule | just do it, it's free | 06:33 |
| Batshua | And I'm running bleeding edge here. | 06:33 |
| Batshua | bbiaf. | 06:33 |
| babycapsule | maybe your tuner is new | 06:34 |
| Batshua | Oh, it's not. | 06:34 |
| babycapsule | ahh? | 06:34 |
| Batshua | I mean, it is, but it replaced the same model I had 2 years ago. | 06:34 |
| Batshua | Iirc, it's an HVR-1250 | 06:34 |
| babycapsule | no idea | 06:34 |
| Batshua | My old one broke in transit, so I got a new one. | 06:34 |
| Batshua | But last time I used one, I was tuning through the cable box | 06:35 |
| Batshua | so I've never set up this card as a capture device before. | 06:35 |
| Batshua | bbiaf. waiting for the box to shut down so I can reseat the card. | 06:35 |
| babycapsule | you should buy a turner that linux can support | 06:35 |
| babycapsule | great | 06:35 |
| * babycapsule crosses fingers | 06:36 | |
| Batshua | It was totally supported when I bought it. | 06:43 |
| Batshua | That's why I picked it. | 06:43 |
| Batshua | I ran lspci again and I think maybe it still can't see it. | 06:44 |
| Batshua | It would say something like "tv tuner card" in lspci, yes? | 06:45 |
| babycapsule | lspci works only when your bios can see the turner | 06:48 |
| babycapsule | you have to make sure this at the beginning - enable your pci bridge chip in the bios | 06:49 |
| babycapsule | there is no native pci onboard these days | 06:50 |
| Batshua | Okay… hrm. | 06:51 |
| babycapsule | did you see and pci bridge chip in lspci? | 06:52 |
| babycapsule | if not, this is the problem | 06:53 |
| Batshua | Yes, I did. | 06:53 |
| babycapsule | hahaha, i see... | 06:53 |
| Batshua | there's like 5 of them | 06:53 |
| Batshua | I lied. six. | 06:54 |
| babycapsule | your truner is designed for working with a ac97 codec | 06:54 |
| babycapsule | but your mobo has a intel hda codec | 06:54 |
| Batshua | Uhm. | 06:55 |
| Batshua | Does that mean I'm screwed? | 06:55 |
| babycapsule | i think, you should return it and buy a newer turner | 06:55 |
| Batshua | Like, seriously what does that mean? | 06:55 |
| babycapsule | seems to be | 06:55 |
| Batshua | Cripes. | 06:56 |
| Batshua | I totally don't have the box anymore. | 06:56 |
| Batshua | That sucks. | 06:56 |
| babycapsule | a old turner card have to catch the interrupts of ac97... | 06:56 |
| babycapsule | but your mobo is using a intel hda codec (for hd video and audio) | 06:56 |
| Batshua | Okay, so any idea what cards out there would work better? | 06:57 |
| Batshua | I'd hate to go through this again just to find out the card isn't going to work. :. | 06:58 |
| babycapsule | maybe a turner that "designed for windows 7" | 06:58 |
| babycapsule | Batshua, you may sell it to next victim on ebay | 06:58 |
| Batshua | It wasn't so expensive that I can't hand it off to some random hobbyist. | 06:59 |
| babycapsule | Batshua, or install it to your old pc | 06:59 |
| Batshua | It worked on my last mobo; it didn't even occur to me that it wouldn't work on this one. | 06:59 |
| Batshua | HAHA WHAT OLD PC. | 06:59 |
| Batshua | I wish I had a spare box to throw this into. | 06:59 |
| babycapsule | your grandma's pc, for example | 06:59 |
| Batshua | No seriously I don't know someone with an old computer who could run it. | 07:00 |
| babycapsule | she would say you are a good kid | 07:00 |
| Batshua | Pfft. | 07:00 |
| Batshua | My grandmother doesn't HAVE a computer. Seriously… *searches newegg* | 07:01 |
| babycapsule | such as... a amd k7 pc | 07:01 |
| Batshua | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116037 | 07:01 |
| Batshua | Something liek this? | 07:01 |
| Zinn | [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner w/ MPEG-2 Encoder PCI-E x1 - Video Devices & TV Tuners | 07:01 |
| Batshua | this is a bit more than I'd like to spend | 07:01 |
| Batshua | Gee, thanks, Zinn! I didn't realize you were so smart! | 07:01 |
| babycapsule | umm | 07:01 |
| babycapsule | do you think you are smarter than me? | 07:02 |
| babycapsule | now | 07:02 |
| Batshua | Not you, ZINN! | 07:02 |
| Batshua | I thought the bot was much stupider than that. | 07:02 |
| Batshua | Okay, uh, the card I'm using now is ostensibly win7 ready. | 07:03 |
| Batshua | So what the hell does that mean? | 07:03 |
| Zinn | Batshua: Please watch your language. | 07:03 |
| babycapsule | i think, a out-of-box tv turner (linux supported) is a better choice | 07:03 |
| Batshua | Are they lying? or is that a bad metric for figuring out if it'll work or not? | 07:03 |
| Batshua | It WAS supported. | 07:03 |
| Batshua | Now it's not? | 07:03 |
| * Batshua is confused again | 07:03 | |
| babycapsule | that means you have to wait | 07:04 |
| babycapsule | a hacker would write the driver for you | 07:04 |
| Batshua | Right. Okay. assuming that would NOT happen, what's currently supported? | 07:05 |
| babycapsule | there is a site called 'linux hal' | 07:05 |
| babycapsule | you may try your luck | 07:05 |
| babycapsule | Batshua, kill the salesman? =_= | 07:06 |
| Batshua | from freedesktop.org? | 07:06 |
| Batshua | they might have support right now, you mean? | 07:06 |
| Zinn | [freedesktop.org] freedesktop.org - Home | 07:06 |
| babycapsule | check the hardware list that linux supports | 07:07 |
| babycapsule | i think, it's unlikely... | 07:07 |
| babycapsule | the salesman might say: if you don't like, just write your own driver | 07:09 |
| Batshua | are you telling me my motherboard's too new?! | 07:13 |
| babycapsule | not sure, you don't say something about it yet | 07:14 |
| babycapsule | can this turner work on windows 7? | 07:15 |
| babycapsule | (yes?) | 07:15 |
| Batshua | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781 | 07:15 |
| Batshua | Yes, it's supposed to work on win7. | 07:15 |
| Zinn | [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS | 07:15 |
| Batshua | Let me triple-check. | 07:16 |
| Batshua | "Microsoft Windows 7 (32 and 64-bit), Windows Vista or Windows XP with Service Pack 2" | 07:16 |
| babycapsule | lol, uefi? | 07:16 |
| Batshua | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116028 | 07:16 |
| Batshua | What? | 07:16 |
| Zinn | [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1250 Hybrid TV Tuner w/ Video Recorder PCI-E x 1 | 07:16 |
| babycapsule | i am not a brave. i don't want to buy uefi motos | 07:19 |
| Batshua | Why not? | 07:19 |
| Batshua | I don't know what the deal is. | 07:19 |
| babycapsule | don't use anything in version 1.0 | 07:19 |
| Batshua | Ah. | 07:19 |
| babycapsule | hahaha | 07:20 |
| Batshua | The BIOS is very … | 07:20 |
| babycapsule | buggy? | 07:20 |
| Batshua | like, it's pretty. | 07:20 |
| Batshua | I don't like it. | 07:20 |
| Batshua | It has lots of shiny graphics and eye candy. | 07:20 |
| babycapsule | hahaha, at your own risk | 07:20 |
| * babycapsule wants a stable pc | 07:20 | |
| babycapsule | wait.... if it's made at 2008, how can it support win7? | 07:22 |
| Batshua | Driver update? | 07:22 |
| Batshua | I told you, it's an old card. | 07:22 |
| Batshua | It was old the first time I bought it. | 07:23 |
| Batshua | It already had linux support back then. | 07:23 |
| Batshua | That's why I obught it again when the last one broke. | 07:23 |
| babycapsule | i hope somebody a hacker can repeat this magic on linux | 07:24 |
| babycapsule | maybe they swap the chips out | 07:24 |
| babycapsule | like ocz did in their ssds | 07:25 |
| babycapsule | same model, different chips (for costdown?) | 07:25 |
| Batshua | God, I hope not. | 07:26 |
| Batshua | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1250 | 07:26 |
| Batshua | See? | 07:26 |
| Batshua | Is there any way to tell? | 07:26 |
| Zinn | [www.linuxtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 - LinuxTVWiki | 07:26 |
| babycapsule | i have no idea really | 07:26 |
| Batshua | Bleargh. | 07:27 |
| babycapsule | i always solved all probems for myself and don't use any chinese buzzed wiki or resource | 07:27 |
| babycapsule | and i won't follow a FAKE question to their sites | 07:28 |
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