[02:39] <UForgotten> w
[05:25] <Shadow__X> there is no more jamu right? i should just remove it from cron?
[06:25] <Batshua> Anyone awake?
[06:25] <babycapsule> except me
[06:26] <Batshua> … Mythbackend isn't seeing my tuner card.
[06:27] <Batshua> I'm … concerned, because I'm not sure how to set up the card if'n it can't see it. :/
[06:27] <Batshua> Uhm, what can I do?
[06:27] <babycapsule> lspci
[06:28] <babycapsule> then you know the id, model and chip of your turner card
[06:29] <babycapsule> then modprobe
[06:30] <Batshua> Uhm.
[06:30] <Batshua> I don't think I see it?
[06:30] <babycapsule> lspci?
[06:30] <Batshua> If I pastebin the log can you check it for me?
[06:30] <Batshua> Yeah, I am looking at the output and I don't see anything that looks like my tuner card
[06:30] <babycapsule> no
[06:30] <Batshua> maybe I'm reading it wrong.
[06:31] <Batshua> Oh balls.
[06:31] <Batshua> I'm thinking maybe the card isn't seated properly.
[06:31] <Batshua> … which is not cool.
[06:31] <babycapsule> maybe your pci id database is too old
[06:31] <Batshua> Hrm?
[06:31] <babycapsule> you have to update it
[06:31] <Batshua> How does one fix that?
[06:31] <babycapsule> a command
[06:32] <babycapsule> #sudo update-pciids, then reboot, then lspci again
[06:32] <babycapsule> it may work, or may not
[06:33] <babycapsule> make sure that you have the lastest pci database on your debian
[06:33] <Batshua> I have to reboot? Okay. Hrm.
[06:33] <Batshua> Instead of rebooting, I'm gonna shut down and reseat the card first.
[06:33] <Batshua> It SHOULD be fine, but it's not seeing it.
[06:33] <babycapsule> just do it, it's free
[06:33] <Batshua> And I'm running bleeding edge here.
[06:33] <Batshua> bbiaf.
[06:34] <babycapsule> maybe your tuner is new
[06:34] <Batshua> Oh, it's not.
[06:34] <babycapsule> ahh?
[06:34] <Batshua> I mean, it is, but it replaced the same model I had 2 years ago.
[06:34] <Batshua> Iirc, it's an HVR-1250
[06:34] <babycapsule> no idea
[06:34] <Batshua> My old one broke in transit, so I got a new one.
[06:35] <Batshua> But last time I used one, I was tuning through the cable box
[06:35] <Batshua> so I've never set up this card as a capture device before.
[06:35] <Batshua> bbiaf. waiting for the box to shut down so I can reseat the card.
[06:35] <babycapsule> you should buy a turner that linux can support
[06:35] <babycapsule> great
[06:36]  * babycapsule crosses fingers
[06:43] <Batshua> It was totally supported when I bought it.
[06:43] <Batshua> That's why I picked it.
[06:44] <Batshua> I ran lspci again and I think maybe it still can't see it.
[06:45] <Batshua> It would say something like "tv tuner card" in lspci, yes?
[06:48] <babycapsule> lspci works only when your bios can see the turner
[06:49] <babycapsule> you have to make sure this at the beginning - enable your pci bridge chip in the bios
[06:50] <babycapsule> there is no native pci onboard these days
[06:51] <Batshua> Okay… hrm.
[06:52] <babycapsule> did you see and pci bridge chip in lspci?
[06:53] <babycapsule> if not, this is the problem
[06:53] <Batshua> Yes, I did.
[06:53] <babycapsule> hahaha, i see...
[06:53] <Batshua> there's like 5 of them
[06:54] <Batshua> I lied. six.
[06:54] <babycapsule> your truner is designed for working with a ac97 codec
[06:54] <babycapsule> but your mobo has a intel hda codec
[06:55] <Batshua> Uhm.
[06:55] <Batshua> Does that mean I'm screwed?
[06:55] <babycapsule> i think, you should return it and buy a newer turner
[06:55] <Batshua> Like, seriously what does that mean?
[06:55] <babycapsule> seems to be
[06:56] <Batshua> Cripes.
[06:56] <Batshua> I totally don't have the box anymore.
[06:56] <Batshua> That sucks.
[06:56] <babycapsule> a old turner card have to catch the interrupts of ac97...
[06:56] <babycapsule> but your mobo is using a intel hda codec (for hd video and audio)
[06:57] <Batshua> Okay, so any idea what cards out there would work better?
[06:58] <Batshua> I'd hate to go through this again just to find out the card isn't going to work. :.
[06:58] <babycapsule> maybe a turner that "designed for windows 7"
[06:58] <babycapsule> Batshua, you may sell it to next victim on ebay
[06:59] <Batshua> It wasn't so expensive that I can't hand it off to some random hobbyist.
[06:59] <babycapsule> Batshua, or install it to your old pc
[06:59] <Batshua> It worked on my last mobo; it didn't even occur to me that it wouldn't work on this one.
[06:59] <Batshua> HAHA WHAT OLD PC.
[06:59] <Batshua> I wish I had a spare box to throw this into.
[06:59] <babycapsule> your grandma's pc, for example
[07:00] <Batshua> No seriously I don't know someone with an old computer who could run it.
[07:00] <babycapsule> she would say you are a good kid
[07:00] <Batshua> Pfft.
[07:01] <Batshua> My grandmother doesn't HAVE a computer. Seriously… *searches newegg*
[07:01] <babycapsule> such as... a amd k7 pc
[07:01] <Batshua> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116037
[07:01] <Batshua> Something liek this?
[07:01] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner w/ MPEG-2 Encoder  PCI-E x1 - Video Devices & TV Tuners
[07:01] <Batshua> this is a bit more than I'd like to spend
[07:01] <Batshua> Gee, thanks, Zinn! I didn't realize you were so smart!
[07:01] <babycapsule> umm
[07:02] <babycapsule> do you think you are smarter than me?
[07:02] <babycapsule> now
[07:02] <Batshua> Not you, ZINN!
[07:02] <Batshua> I thought the bot was much stupider than that.
[07:03] <Batshua> Okay, uh, the card I'm using now is ostensibly win7 ready.
[07:03] <Batshua> So what the hell does that mean?
[07:03] <Zinn> Batshua: Please watch your language.
[07:03] <babycapsule> i think, a out-of-box tv turner (linux supported) is a better choice
[07:03] <Batshua> Are they lying? or is that a bad metric for figuring out if it'll work or not?
[07:03] <Batshua> It WAS supported.
[07:03] <Batshua> Now it's not?
[07:03]  * Batshua is confused again
[07:04] <babycapsule> that means you have to wait
[07:04] <babycapsule> a hacker would write the driver for you
[07:05] <Batshua> Right. Okay. assuming that would NOT happen, what's currently supported?
[07:05] <babycapsule> there is a site called 'linux hal'
[07:05] <babycapsule> you may try your luck
[07:06] <babycapsule> Batshua, kill the salesman? =_=
[07:06] <Batshua> from freedesktop.org?
[07:06] <Batshua> they might have support right now, you mean?
[07:06] <Zinn> [freedesktop.org] freedesktop.org - Home
[07:07] <babycapsule> check the hardware list that linux supports
[07:07] <babycapsule> i think, it's unlikely...
[07:09] <babycapsule> the salesman might say: if you don't like, just write your own driver
[07:13] <Batshua> are you telling me my motherboard's too new?!
[07:14] <babycapsule> not sure, you don't say something about it yet
[07:15] <babycapsule> can this turner work on windows 7?
[07:15] <babycapsule> (yes?)
[07:15] <Batshua> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781
[07:15] <Batshua> Yes, it's supposed to work on win7.
[07:15] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
[07:16] <Batshua> Let me triple-check.
[07:16] <Batshua> "Microsoft Windows 7 (32 and 64-bit), Windows Vista or Windows XP with Service Pack 2"
[07:16] <babycapsule> lol, uefi?
[07:16] <Batshua> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116028
[07:16] <Batshua> What?
[07:16] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1250 Hybrid TV Tuner w/ Video Recorder  PCI-E x 1
[07:19] <babycapsule> i am not a brave. i don't want to buy uefi motos
[07:19] <Batshua> Why not?
[07:19] <Batshua> I don't know what the deal is.
[07:19] <babycapsule> don't use anything in version 1.0
[07:19] <Batshua> Ah.
[07:20] <babycapsule> hahaha
[07:20] <Batshua> The BIOS is very …
[07:20] <babycapsule> buggy?
[07:20] <Batshua> like, it's pretty.
[07:20] <Batshua> I don't like it.
[07:20] <Batshua> It has lots of shiny graphics and eye candy.
[07:20] <babycapsule> hahaha, at your own risk
[07:20]  * babycapsule wants a stable pc
[07:22] <babycapsule> wait.... if it's made at 2008, how can it support win7?
[07:22] <Batshua> Driver update?
[07:22] <Batshua> I told you, it's an old card.
[07:23] <Batshua> It was old the first time I bought it.
[07:23] <Batshua> It already had linux support back then.
[07:23] <Batshua> That's why I obught it again when the last one broke.
[07:24] <babycapsule> i hope somebody a hacker can repeat this magic on linux
[07:24] <babycapsule> maybe they swap the chips out
[07:25] <babycapsule> like ocz did in their ssds
[07:25] <babycapsule> same model, different chips (for costdown?)
[07:26] <Batshua> God, I hope not.
[07:26] <Batshua> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1250
[07:26] <Batshua> See?
[07:26] <Batshua> Is there any way to tell?
[07:26] <Zinn> [www.linuxtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 - LinuxTVWiki
[07:26] <babycapsule> i have no idea really
[07:27] <Batshua> Bleargh.
[07:27] <babycapsule> i always solved all probems for myself and don't use any chinese buzzed wiki or resource
[07:28] <babycapsule> and i won't follow a FAKE question to their sites