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[17:03] <mpt> Apparently not?
[17:06] <mpt> Design for installing the wi-fi driver in the installer (it doesn't look quite like this yet): https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/Doc?docid=0AU5sFuLRpCpBZGZra2pqY2pfMTAxZ25rcnBnNXY#Connecting_to_the_Internet_4668990846257657
[17:08] <cyphermox> mpt: we're showing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareAndUpdatesSettings#drivers on projector
[17:08] <mpt> cyphermox, I heard :-)
[17:08] <cyphermox> ok :)
[17:12] <mpt> Whoever said that is right, yellow for open source is a bit pejorative
[17:14] <mpt> Can we independently and programmatically tell the difference between "driver that works somewhat" and "driver that works completely"?
[17:14] <mpt> ok
[17:14] <mpt> Who would flip the switch to say "nouveau is good enough now"?
[17:16] <mpt> If green = "the recommended one" and yellow = "any other", then we need *some* way to calculate that
[17:18] <mpt> ok, "recommended" = "the one that was tested"
[17:18] <mpt> I can change that
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[17:24] <mpt> Sorry, I didn't hear that question
[17:25] <mpt> graphics drivers? sure
[17:25] <mpt> Work item: add "3-D graphics" to the hideous software sentence
[17:26] <mpt> ok
[17:26] <mpt> Overbearing? ptui
[17:27] <mpt> That sentence is already the result of the lawyers giving us something and me shortening it
[17:27] <mpt> but, if we can shorten it further, yay
[17:38] <mpt> Even I could tell that wasn't didrocks
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[17:40] <mpt> The new design is actually part of gnome-control-center, not software-properties
[17:40] <mpt> Even if the whole of software-properties-gtk can't be ported, I think it would still make sense for Drivers to be a panel by itself
[17:41] <mpt> However, that might depend on whether it's still impossible to do Python panels
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[17:43] <mpt> No, nothing to do with USC
[17:43] <mpt> gnome-control-center
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[17:44] <mpt> In order of preference: (1) "Additional Drivers" as a tab of a "Software & Updates" panel in g-c-c. (2) "Hardware Drivers" as a panel by itself in g-c-c. (3) "Additional Drivers" as a tab in software-properties-gtk.
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[22:17] <xranby1> hi i am working in the IcedTea team. I added one significant issue that we did not manage to fix in the precise cycle to the pad
[22:17] <xranby1> i am partition remotely
[22:18] <xranby1> accessibility in java applications almost worked out of the box in precise
[22:19] <xranby1> the problem was that enabeling the java-atk-wrapper by default caused a lot of crashes in some java applications
[22:32] <xranby1> a lot of developers are not aware of the "flat review mode" that ocra offers to blind people for navigation
[22:33] <xranby1> by pressing the numlock when ocra is running
[22:51] <xranby1> push generic usecases:  like a vision where you can operate your new ubuntu phone using only a touch screen and headphones
[22:51] <xranby1> that would attract normal users
[22:52] <xranby1> who do not need accessibility normally
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[22:57] <xranby1> audio feeback of the touch interface
[22:57] <xranby1> woudl be interesting to explore
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[22:59] <xranby1> thank you for this uds session
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[23:37] <NMinker> I normally keep the current kernel and the last one
[23:45] <NMinker> bless you
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