[00:00] http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/04/exclusive-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-facebook-release-engineering/ [00:01] hate on facebook, but bittorrent based deploy is badass [00:19] shakes808: It's just a regular X120e with some stickers on it [00:19] But your Win key is a Ubuntu key... and that would mean that MS didn't get their share [00:19] or is that the sticker that you mention [00:20] rick_h_: Facebook is definitely one of the leaders in being creative with deployments [00:20] shakes808: That's a sticker pack [00:20] gotcha [00:21] our supply got decimated at the release party [00:21] but I'll try to get some more before Ohio Linuxfest [00:22] sweet [00:22] :D [00:22] If I am looking for a new laptop, is the thinkpad's that good? I see that most of you have them [01:52] shakes808: thinkpad or bust [01:54] mac book air or something that sucks [02:03] I just got done making a laptop and Holy Hell. Base was 800 and ended up 1624 [02:03] lol [02:05] T series [02:11] phew, riding at night is a bit more interesting [02:11] and dammit, lost my 3rd back light flashy thingy [02:11] greg-g: how do you get those things to stay on? Tempted to weld one next time [02:14] rick_h_: some of them are annoying. which style do you have? other than zip-ties the next bet is black electrical tape :) [02:15] brb [02:16] I have these clip ons and last time I zip tied after it was clipped on, no idea how I lost it tonight === JonEdney is now known as Jon|AFK [03:50] http://www.analogindustries.com/blog/entry.php?blogid=1336705207848 [03:51] If you think Linux audio is a bitch, just thank your lucky stars it doesn't require a papal-ring kiss to make it work. [11:21] Good morning all [11:24] party [11:24] TGIF [11:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRsDqnUjXE [11:30] http://shirt.woot.com [11:30] ^^^^^^^ Is funny [11:53] snap-l: i got another box filled with hundreds of CDs in the mail yesterday [11:53] thanks [11:56] brousch: You're welcome. :) [11:56] i think i got rid of a dozen from the last box [11:56] GOing to be a little more slow in distributing these, but if anyone wants them, LMK [11:57] brousch: I got rid of all of them. [11:57] Penguicon free table. [11:57] nice [11:59] free table. good idea. we'll do that at barcampgr [12:08] tedx was pretty good [13:51] rick_h_: http://3rdaverad.io/shows/django-podcast/episodes/episode-1/ [13:55] ruh roh... [14:04] brousch: yay, Django has bcypt :P [14:04] sorry, having a hard time listening to these guys, background hum, first guy is kind of annoying :/ [14:04] i haven't listened yet. no spilers! [14:04] hah! [14:04] nvm, I said nothing [14:05] bad sound quality can be a bummer [14:05] it's not bad, but ugh [14:21] it does? [14:21] oh you are making fun. [14:21] jrwren: what does? [14:21] django has bcrypt. [14:22] i was like, wtf ? [14:22] but now I see, you are making fun. [14:22] 1.4 added support for it if you choose to install/get it [14:22] so they *finally* got it was the joke [14:22] been sha-1 I think forever [14:24] https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/auth/#using-bcrypt-with-django [14:38] rick_h_: Next you'll see then start using sqlalchemy and yui [14:38] :P [14:38] And real MVC [14:38] Unicorns will frolick in the forest [14:39] * snap-l reminds himself that it's probably a bad idea to taunt rick_h_ while he's in the middle of Django coding [14:39] not yet, come monday, today I'm killing thousands of lines of doctests with my flaming sword [14:39] It's like dousing yourself in sports drinks over the pits of hell. [14:40] eventually someone will get lucky and grab your ankle. [14:40] and there will be hell to pay. [14:40] (no pun intended) [14:46] bah, humbug [14:56] rick_h_ is a puppy dog [14:56] Cerberus [14:57] woof [15:07] real mvc is bullshit. [15:08] django is real mvc, they just named things wrong. view function is controller. template is view. DONE [15:46] snap-l: are you having problems with pidgin under the work XMPP? [15:47] Yeah, they're rebooting the VM that the IM server is on [15:47] Oh, ok. lol. All of a sudden I didn't see my list of employees. [15:47] Is that affecting our email as well? Are they on the same server? [15:48] Not AFAIK [15:49] I am going to send you an email and send it back when you recieve it. I have been waiting on a response and haven't received it. It has been a while [15:49] My hope isn't that they hosted all of the infra on the same box === Jon|AFK is now known as JonEdney [17:08] This AM flew by, why is the PM going sooooo slooooow? [17:38] please don't reply to the [discussion] java email. :) [17:39] hah [17:39] now I have to go look [18:03] I must no longer be on discussion [18:03] greg-g: i don't see it either [18:08] might have been a mug email [18:09] yea, mug discuss, I don't get it though. Nothing bad in there I guess [18:17] jrwren: didn't get any java email. I got a job opening for Linux Engineer. [18:22] sorry, it was the discuss mug.org email list, which a few people here are on. [18:22] I believe I signed up for both of them. [18:22] yeah, discuss and announcements [18:24] lol I want my wrongfully sent email lol ;) [18:25] speaking of the MUG stuff, has anyone figured out how MUG is going to steal my dues so I can officially become one of you lol [18:29] i'm not a mug person, i just lurk on the email list [18:31] What's wrong with the mail to the discuss ist? [18:32] shakes808: just show up at a meeting and give them $35? [18:37] devinheitmueller: Alright, sounds good [18:46] Have a good day and weekend all. [19:16] snap-l: oracle java is evil and left out of ubuntu for good reason :) [19:17] if you want to run java, go run solaris [19:17] on sparc! [19:17] zing! [19:17] * greg-g has fond memories of late night hacking sessions in the pizza box computer lab at UMN [19:18] i used to love those machines because while the macintoshes and PCs were full, the Sun machines were unoccupied [19:19] all we had in the UMN CS computer labs were solaris machines while I was there, just sparc 5 vs 10 vs something [19:20] oh, we may have had an NT lab somewhere, but it was small and never used [19:20] was garbage ever since linux was good enough to run netscape, which was around 1994 :) [19:20] jrwren: :P [20:12] hm http://investors.geek.net/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=672629 [20:14] "maximize shareholder value" is always an ominous phrase [20:14] I can't get past the "media" ...what media. I don't see music, video, etc [20:15] hmm, looks a lot like a "Now auctioning...place your bids...place your bids" [20:15] rick_h_: yep, selling shit off [20:15] The angels have left the building [20:16] unrelatedly, Rogue's Juniper Pale Ale is a nice lunch addition on such a beautiful work from home day [20:16] alcohol at lunch? [20:17] In other words, they're shedding off the money-losers, and concentrating on thinkgeek [20:17] brousch: yes indeedy [20:17] do you smoke a bowl for breakfast too? [20:17] what is this world coming to?! [20:17] brousch: Silly, that's uncivilized [20:17] Nobody smokes a bowl before breakfast [20:18] you'd just eat away the high [20:18] they just hop onto the BART, which is powered by buring marajuana and good intentions [20:18] lol [20:18] it's the only bus where you don't mind that it vents inside the cabin [20:18] "Hey, could you step on it a little more? We're coming down back here!" [20:19] It's "bio-deisel" [20:20] I KNEW it! [20:20] that's why all those hippy cars (old diesel mercedes) are so wanted around here [20:21] It's like a water-bong on wheels [20:21] blub blub blub bluub lub [20:22] snap-l: are you sure you never lived in SF? [20:22] It's not just compost piles they're putting in those tanks [20:22] greg-g: Everything I learned about SF I learned from jwz and southpark [20:23] haha [20:23] ANd the only way I think we'd ever go to SF on purpose is during Folsom [20:24] because for some reason JoDee wants to see it at some point [20:24] /. is a great example of not keeping up with the times. [20:25] jrwren: I beg to differ [20:25] you would [20:25] didn't you work for them? [20:25] Yep [20:25] /. is a good example of what happens when you try to monetize something that is hard to monetize. [20:25] oh yeah, so hard to monitize. [20:26] yes somehow EVERY site like that does a great job. [20:26] jrwren: I was also a fan of /. before I worked there. [20:26] Name two [20:26] i was a fan of /. when htey didn't suck. [20:26] reddit and digg [20:26] reddit is a link participation circlejerk [20:26] exactly the same as /. [20:26] and digg is a link participation circlejerk with more jerking [20:27] exactly the same as /. [20:27] bullshit [20:27] could you be too close? [20:27] /. stories have to have some content in them outside of "Hey reddit, I just found this in my pants, what is it?" [20:27] snap-l: Folsom? Really? Leather is JoDee's thing? [20:27] greg-g: I think she just wants to see the spectacle of it all [20:28] oh boy is it a spectacle :) [20:28] greg-g: Yup [20:28] snap-l: there is a sub-reddit for that, it's called "gonewild" [20:28] * snap-l has seen photos [20:29] The internet is the great puddle of that which cannot be unseen [20:29] so she likes to go to City Club too? [20:29] That and men's locker rooms at a gym [20:29] jrwren: She hates clubs. [20:30] but Folsom is ok? [20:31] how is the difference? [20:31] jrwren: you been to folsom? [20:31] nope [20:31] the one time I was here when it was happening my parents were in town, we didn't go :) [20:31] maybe this summer with the boy, he'll be 7 months, that's plenty old enough for that [20:31] jrwren: I have NFC. [20:31] I can't imagine it is much different from a detroit Noir Leather show [20:32] jrwren: is that one mostly gay men [20:32] ? [20:32] I'd not say mostly. [20:32] but definitely higher than normal proportions [20:33] my view on folsom may be scewed by who my friends are here, but I saw a big Bear contingency there based on the photos I saw [20:34] sounds about right [20:35] * greg-g nods [20:42] bears in leather? [20:42] do they ride unicycles? [20:43] brousch: some do. With or without bike seats. [20:44] * brousch is scared to look up bears in leather now [20:44] think BJ and the Bear and not Pooh [20:45] a trucker and a monkey? [20:47] bj and the bear is a new one to me [23:52] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/17#issuecomment-5654674 [23:52] some good comments [23:54] phew, lawn is done... [23:54] brousch: yea, I've not tried the native pull request thing so haven't compared [23:54] end of the day, each project picks their standards [23:57] i would cry if torvalds called me a moron [23:57] I'd take it as a compliment [23:57] he at least read it [23:57] besides, smart people disagree all the time [23:58] what gets me is the fanboi's on both sides with 0 accomplishments to their name taking sides and ranting on the creator of Git/Linux and the creators of the freaking github [23:58] you should need 10k github points to chime in, where each point is a follower on your repos [23:58] then I'd care about the commenter