| superfly | goeie môre almal | 07:01 |
|---|---|---|
| inetpro | heh superfly | 07:37 |
| inetpro | goeiemore | 07:37 |
| charlvn | hi inetpro | 07:56 |
| inetpro | good morning charlvn | 07:57 |
| charlvn | running some fat ldap queries | 07:58 |
| charlvn | i _so_ want this tshirt: http://i.imgur.com/zQbyS.png | 08:01 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 11:34 |
| Kilos | hi there charlvn | 11:36 |
| Kilos | hi superfly and others as well also too | 11:37 |
| Kerbero | i _so_ want this tshirt: http://www.google-store.com/google/WebContents/ProductDetails.aspx?request=seGeV5D2r0Q= | 11:38 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 11:39 |
| psnel | hey, anyone talking? | 11:53 |
| Kilos | hi psnel | 11:53 |
| psnel | need help with usb iburst. worked, then stopped. modeswitch? | 11:53 |
| psnel | hi Kilos | 11:53 |
| Kilos | try plugin it into another usb port | 11:53 |
| Kilos | if it worked then it most likely just forgot something | 11:54 |
| psnel | I did.. also rebooted, replugged. tried different ports. | 11:54 |
| psnel | It shows no signal | 11:54 |
| Kilos | maybe the local tower is down | 11:55 |
| psnel | it did before. I switched networking/ wifi off at one time so it uses the iburst instead of that. | 11:55 |
| psnel | maybe. but it seems strange that it stopped working. yesterday. still no signal | 11:56 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:56 |
| psnel | it also happened over a month ago when i manually built the drivers. | 11:56 |
| Kilos | have you followed the iburst mails on our lists? | 11:56 |
| psnel | this one from PPA. Automatically patches driver, builds and installs - it's in DKMS so it updates automatically when kernel changes | 11:57 |
| psnel | yes... I wrote half of them :-) | 11:57 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:57 |
| psnel | might the modem be in an inconsistent state? | 11:57 |
| Kilos | ? | 11:57 |
| charlvn | so it's friday... time for some star wors? http://i.imgur.com/pubCi.jpg | 11:58 |
| psnel | mode-switched? or something. not sure hoe to check or how or to what to switch | 11:58 |
| Kilos | i use voda broadband | 11:58 |
| charlvn | http://i.imgur.com/aoHJe.png | 11:58 |
| Kilos | try sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch --reinstall | 11:58 |
| psnel | yea i Know. you got it easy. | 11:59 |
| psnel | ok. one mo | 11:59 |
| Kilos | i hope i got that command right | 12:00 |
| Kilos | thats why i prefer aptitude | 12:00 |
| psnel | yes it's right | 12:01 |
| psnel | done... replugged... | 12:01 |
| psnel | same | 12:01 |
| psnel | iburst light is green... | 12:01 |
| psnel | wtf? | 12:02 |
| psnel | (sorry) | 12:02 |
| Kilos | do you use the network manager to connect? | 12:02 |
| psnel | no | 12:02 |
| psnel | pon del-provider | 12:02 |
| psnel | (RP-PPPOE plugin already part of it) | 12:02 |
| psnel | stock standard pppoe | 12:02 |
| psnel | it worked yesterday. i was able to browse the web | 12:03 |
| Kilos | then just hang on here a while, guys are busy but im sure someone will have ideas | 12:03 |
| psnel | cool. thanks | 12:03 |
| Kilos | im not very clued up | 12:03 |
| charlvn | i used to have a hauwei 3g dongle and had a similar problem with vodacom | 12:05 |
| charlvn | but it got fixed with an upgrade of ubuntu eventually | 12:05 |
| charlvn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105545 | 12:07 |
| charlvn | then later https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/868034 | 12:07 |
| psnel | yeah. most mobile wireless devices can be easily setup with Network Manager | 12:07 |
| psnel | except iburst. | 12:07 |
| charlvn | wel.... heh heh in principle | 12:08 |
| charlvn | it doesn't work always ;) | 12:08 |
| charlvn | if i had to go back to using 3g i would simply get this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiFi | 12:08 |
| psnel | I even write a java app to monitor signal strength, and show connection, and everything | 12:08 |
| charlvn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Iburst | 12:08 |
| charlvn | nice! | 12:09 |
| Kilos | is your modem manager all up to date | 12:09 |
| psnel | I just updated that wiki | 12:09 |
| charlvn | psnel++ | 12:10 |
| psnel | I think iburst is cheaper than the 3g carriers | 12:10 |
| Kilos | if it works ya | 12:11 |
| charlvn | hahahaha! http://iburst.co.za/neuvo.aspx?link=get_packages_adsl | 12:12 |
| charlvn | "uncapped" with a fair use policy of 1gb per day | 12:12 |
| charlvn | who are these guys kidding | 12:12 |
| psnel | haha | 12:13 |
| charlvn | if you ask me, their prepaid rates are quite expensive: http://iburst.co.za/neuvo.aspx?link=get_packages_prepaid | 12:13 |
| psnel | guys who are told that they should get "uncapped", it's the new "new" | 12:13 |
| psnel | i got mine with a netbook special | 12:14 |
| psnel | downgraded later | 12:14 |
| psnel | unused bw carries over for a month | 12:14 |
| charlvn | i don't care what they call it, as long as it's not false advertising | 12:17 |
| charlvn | if you sell a 1gb per-day cap then don't call it uncapped | 12:17 |
| charlvn | end of story | 12:17 |
| psnel | true | 12:17 |
| psnel | I get 10240.00 MB midnight-to morning | 12:17 |
| charlvn | 10GB in 6 or so hours isn't too bad | 12:18 |
| charlvn | over a month you can get down 300GB | 12:19 |
| psnel | what package? | 12:19 |
| psnel | i'm on pro10+ 10 gb i think for R173 + modem subsidy @ R103 | 12:20 |
| charlvn | i don't know, you said it :) | 12:21 |
| psnel | oh | 12:21 |
| psnel | not 10gb every day. per month | 12:21 |
| charlvn | you should know which package you're on :P | 12:21 |
| charlvn | what?! you're kidding me | 12:21 |
| psnel | it's only for mobile | 12:21 |
| charlvn | yeah mobile is always restrictive | 12:22 |
| psnel | i use adsl @ home | 12:22 |
| charlvn | ah ok | 12:22 |
| psnel | 20gb p/m (+1gb free per gig bought = +20gb; +1gb free) = 41Gb p/m | 12:22 |
| psnel | With auto-topup @ R29/gig | 12:23 |
| charlvn | not too bad, for mobile | 12:23 |
| psnel | I don't torrent much hollywood these days since I got the cease-and-desist notice (twice) | 12:24 |
| psnel | no that's adsl | 12:24 |
| psnel | ISP: Afrihost | 12:24 |
| charlvn | ouch, no in that case very expensive | 12:24 |
| psnel | 4mbps - sometimes I get 17-20 mbps ??? duno what that's about, but I'm not complaining | 12:25 |
| psnel | DL a whole series in like 10 mins | 12:25 |
| psnel | :-)) | 12:25 |
| charlvn | brb coffee | 12:25 |
| charlvn | yeah i don't do much BT these days unless when it's legal (eg creative commons licensed) stuff | 12:28 |
| psnel | yea me too | 12:29 |
| charlvn | most of what hollywood is producing is commercial crap in any case | 12:29 |
| psnel | hollywood's mostly garbage anyway. | 12:29 |
| charlvn | there are a few exceptions to that rule but those i would want to see on the big screen in any case | 12:29 |
| charlvn | yeah exactly | 12:29 |
| psnel | brb phone | 12:29 |
| charlvn | animeplus.tv and animeultima.tv has much more for my interests | 12:29 |
| psnel | plus what hollywood is trying to do to the internet ticks me off | 12:31 |
| psnel | MPAA & RIAA | 12:31 |
| charlvn | they can take their commercial crap and shuv it where it belongs :P | 12:31 |
| psnel | I watch a lot of science, debate, docu's | 12:32 |
| psnel | politics, activism | 12:32 |
| psnel | stuff that doesn't feed me the junk food of the common lowest denominator -- they actually screen movies etc to see if it's too "smart", meaning they'll lose viewers, so they dumb it down | 12:33 |
| psnel | damn, tho only other guy who had ideas about fixing my problem just left | 12:35 |
| psnel | Does anyone know a channel where people may be knowledgeable on how to get the iburst to work - it worked yesterday | 12:40 |
| charlvn | you could try #glug.za | 12:41 |
| psnel | tx | 12:41 |
| charlvn | or perhaps # and #clug on irc.atrum.org | 12:41 |
| inetpro | psnel: what does this mean? 24Hrs Booster Price | 13:09 |
| * inetpro should perhaps try iBurst again | 13:10 | |
| psnel | not sure what that means | 13:14 |
| * inetpro wonders how can I test my iBurst signal at home without spending to much | 13:16 | |
| charlvn | if you phone them up they should be able to provide you with more info or come out to your premises and take a reading? | 13:22 |
| inetpro | charlvn: good idea, thanks | 13:22 |
| inetpro | if it works it could be much cheaper than my 8ta connection | 13:23 |
| inetpro | sadly ADSL is still not an option for me | 13:24 |
| charlvn | inetpro: are there any WUGs in your area? | 13:24 |
| charlvn | if you have a friend or somebody you trust that is connected to the wug, perhaps they can give you a vpn into their adsl connection | 13:25 |
| inetpro | charlvn: to far away, I tried that option some time ago | 13:25 |
| charlvn | ah i see | 13:25 |
| charlvn | we got some very good mileage using the right antennas and equipment using 802.11g in the garden route | 13:25 |
| charlvn | but the trick is you need to have a flat area with a high site | 13:26 |
| charlvn | if you live somewhere with no high regions or too many mountains it gets difficult | 13:26 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 13:27 |
| inetpro | perhaps I should look at this option again | 13:27 |
| charlvn | you just need the right equipment, you can get ridiculous distance | 13:29 |
| charlvn | sorry make the above 802.11n not 802.11g | 13:30 |
| charlvn | on 5.2 GHz | 13:30 |
| charlvn | because the 2.4 GHz range was too cluttered in george | 13:30 |
| psnel | you get mobile boosters too. not sure about iburst | 13:31 |
| inetpro | charlvn: but how would I get onto the internet via the WUG? Those guys are very adamant in their refusal to allow internet on the WUG network | 13:36 |
| charlvn | inetpro: it's irrelevant what they think about it, they don't know what the traffic is that's passing on the wan if it's encrypted | 13:45 |
| charlvn | just use openvpn or the likes | 13:45 |
| charlvn | connect to an openvpn server at your friend's house and then exit the wan using his/her internet connection | 13:45 |
| inetpro | charlvn: but I don't have a friend on the WUG, at least not that I know of | 13:47 |
| charlvn | ok then you have a problem :) | 13:48 |
| Jabberwocky | good to see some WUG talk, good old days | 14:23 |
| charlvn | ok i'm off, bbl | 14:33 |
| nuvimob | aloha | 17:41 |
| nuvimob | lo magespawn | 17:48 |
| magespawn | Howdy everyone | 17:48 |
| nuvimob | sup? | 17:48 |
| magespawn | Not much and you? | 17:49 |
| nuvimob | chilling. waiting for xfce 4.10 download and install to complete | 17:50 |
| magespawn | Not enjoying unity? | 17:51 |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:53 |
| magespawn | Howdy inetpro | 17:53 |
| inetpro | magespawn: sup? | 17:54 |
| inetpro | hmm... I see not much :-) | 17:54 |
| magespawn | Not much, boys night with fish 1 watching Farscape | 17:55 |
| inetpro | farscape? | 17:55 |
| magespawn | Sci fi program bit like startrek | 17:56 |
| inetpro | ah | 17:57 |
| magespawn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farscape | 17:57 |
| Tonberry | star trek on drugs | 17:58 |
| magespawn | Startrek from Oz, but it is kid friendly in most places, so its okay for the fish to watch. | 18:00 |
| inetpro | Guten Abend Kilos | 18:00 |
| Kilos | hi superfly inetpro psydroid and others | 18:00 |
| Kilos | net my geluk om jou hier te vang | 18:01 |
| superfly | hi everyone | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hoe kan ons met kubuntu hierdie hele site aflaai asb. | 18:01 |
| magespawn | Hi Kilos, superfly | 18:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: watse site? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:02 |
| Kilos | http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/tinycorelinux/tce/ | 18:02 |
| Kilos | patience is a virtue | 18:02 |
| Kilos | ek moes soek man | 18:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wat is dit? | 18:02 |
| Kilos | al die pakkete vir tinycore linux | 18:03 |
| inetpro | eish! | 18:03 |
| Kilos | ian kan dit vir my kry | 18:03 |
| Kilos | wat eish? | 18:03 |
| inetpro | vir wat wil jy so moeilik raak, is daar nie 'n ISO nie? | 18:03 |
| Kilos | ja hy het die iso | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hierdie is al die ander goed soos gimp xchat en so aan | 18:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: why do you want TinyCore? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | die hele iso is net 66m | 18:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, but that's because it's not a user-friendly version of Linux | 18:05 |
| superfly | they remove almost *everything* | 18:05 |
| superfly | and then you have to sukkel to get stuff installed. | 18:05 |
| Kilos | as a fall back when i have got data to upgrade new ubuntu's superfly | 18:05 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:05 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 18:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: there's no point, you're going to sukkel more than anything else | 18:05 |
| psydroid | hi superfly | 18:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I agree with superfly | 18:06 |
| psydroid | hi inetpro | 18:06 |
| superfly | Kilos: you're chasing after something that you don't actually need | 18:06 |
| superfly | hi psydroid | 18:06 |
| magespawn | Hey psydroid | 18:06 |
| inetpro | psydroid: hiho | 18:06 |
| superfly | Kilos: just because the ISO is 66m doesn't mean it will work for you | 18:06 |
| psydroid | hi magespawn | 18:06 |
| superfly | in fact, that's a good indication that it *won't* work for you | 18:06 |
| Kilos | i have the basic iso of 11m and it doesnt look too bad superfly | 18:07 |
| Kilos | i also have the how to file | 18:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but all those files on that site will amount to a massive lot of data | 18:08 |
| Kilos | only prob with the 11m iso is it needs other files to be able to install to hdd | 18:08 |
| Kilos | he has uncapped inetpro | 18:08 |
| inetpro | linux is linux, and those files probably make up for the rest of linux | 18:09 |
| inetpro | ubuntu just makes it so much easier | 18:09 |
| inetpro | or debian | 18:09 |
| Kilos | i will still keep ubuntu going but its better to stay online all the time than use all that data updating | 18:10 |
| inetpro | if he has uncapped why not get the full ubuntu repo? | 18:10 |
| Kilos | im already 200m behind with 11.04 | 18:10 |
| magespawn | How big is the ubuntu repo? | 18:10 |
| Kilos | 40g | 18:11 |
| magespawn | That would take awhile to get | 18:11 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:11 |
| inetpro | easier if you know a friend | 18:11 |
| inetpro | and cheaper | 18:12 |
| Kilos | anyway is there a way to download that whole site with one command or not | 18:12 |
| magespawn | Wget? | 18:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes, but do you know how much it is? | 18:13 |
| inetpro | wget | 18:13 |
| Kilos | i thought of that but what do you need to add to the link | 18:13 |
| Kilos | how does one see how big it is | 18:13 |
| Kilos | he says there is like 150 packages | 18:13 |
| inetpro | you ask the guys who host the site | 18:14 |
| Kilos | whew | 18:14 |
| nuvolari | o/ hi oom Kilos | 18:14 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 18:14 |
| nuvolari | and inetpro, psydroid, superfly | 18:15 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: wb | 18:15 |
| Kilos | you chased him | 18:15 |
| superfly | nuvolari: grrr, you messed up my screencast | 18:15 |
| inetpro | superfly: hmm... are you taking pictures of me? | 18:16 |
| nuvolari | eh? what do you mean? | 18:16 |
| nuvolari | magespawn: Unity lasted only as long as it took me to install Gnome3 | 18:17 |
| Kilos | lol\ | 18:17 |
| magespawn | Hah | 18:17 |
| * inetpro hides behind the wall | 18:17 | |
| Kilos | haha | 18:18 |
| magespawn | Superfly what are you talking about? | 18:19 |
| * nuvolari thumb-tumbles | 18:19 | |
| nuvolari | I didn't do anything | 18:19 |
| Kilos | did psnel win with his iburst goodie? | 18:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: for Tiny Core support go to #tinycorelinux | 18:23 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro i will try them but you know only this site is really friendly | 18:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: tbh I don't think you want Tiny Core | 18:26 |
| inetpro | way to minimalistic | 18:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: then why bother with TinyCore? we don't know TinyCore, we know Ubuntu | 18:32 |
| Kilos | yeah superfly . my prob is them updates. i am going 2 months on less than the first ubuntu update | 18:33 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's not going to be any different on TinyCore | 18:34 |
| superfly | Kilos: TinyCore is also going to have updates | 18:34 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:34 |
| superfly | Kilos: Just because TinyCore has a small ISO doesn't mean it's not going to require updating | 18:35 |
| Kilos | yeah but i was thinking if it is like 66m for the iso updates cant be big | 18:36 |
| superfly | Kilos: No, they are unrelated, I told you | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i dont understand the unrelated bit superfly | 18:38 |
| Kilos | <glc_> Kilos, We do not advocate downloading complete repos.\ | 18:42 |
| Kilos | oh well | 18:42 |
| superfly | Kilos: The GIMP is no longer part of Ubuntu, you have to download that separately. So every time you get an update, you have to download all of the GIMP again. | 18:44 |
| superfly | Kilos: The GIMP is not part of TinyCore, you have to download that separately. Every time you get an update, you have to download all of the GIMP again. | 18:45 |
| Kilos | oh i see ty superfly | 18:45 |
| Kilos | yeah gimp and xchat are in those packages | 18:46 |
| Kilos | i dont update this gimp anyway the one i have works kiff | 18:46 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 19:03 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 19:03 |
| magespawn | all sorts of wierdness happening tonight | 19:04 |
| Kilos | our nets get kinda sick at times | 19:07 |
| magespawn | yup and xchat on the phone would not connect | 19:14 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:15 |
| Kilos | hi hamslaai | 19:15 |
| Kilos | toods | 19:19 |
| Kilos | he didnt last long | 19:19 |
| Langjan | hi hamslaai | 19:24 |
| hamslaai | langjan: hi i am hamslaai | 19:24 |
| hamslaai | langjan: hi | 19:26 |
| Langjan | I have posted some outcomes to the HP site, shall we wait to see what they come up with? | 19:26 |
| hamslaai | langjan: did u read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne | 19:26 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 19:27 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos, hamslaai yes, the steps did not help, so I posted the suggested outcome via terminal | 19:27 |
| hamslaai | they mention: " Delete any entries for this printer in System->Administration->Printers." | 19:27 |
| hamslaai | did u try: "sudo hp-setup" | 19:28 |
| Langjan | Right, I did that then ran setup as they suggest, did not find printer | 19:28 |
| hamslaai | ok- does the printer have an info panel - to print or display it's network setting ? | 19:29 |
| hamslaai | in other words - what is it's ip address on the network ? | 19:30 |
| Langjan | I found that a few days ago, saved it in a doc which I can find | 19:30 |
| hamslaai | ok - lets try to ping it from your computer first | 19:31 |
| hamslaai | open a terminal and type " ping 192.168.1.2" for example | 19:31 |
| hamslaai | can you post the network settings ? | 19:33 |
| Langjan | I ran ifconfig, then got many settings, is inet addr the rigth one? | 19:34 |
| hamslaai | nope - you need to go the printer and find out it's network settings | 19:34 |
| hamslaai | can you send me the make and model so that i can google it | 19:35 |
| Langjan | HP Officejet 6313 | 19:35 |
| hamslaai | ok stand by | 19:35 |
| Langjan | thanks | 19:35 |
| Langjan | are you well kilos? | 19:36 |
| Kilos | yes ty Langjan and you | 19:36 |
| Kilos | hamslaai, welcome to ubuntu-za | 19:36 |
| Langjan | grateful thanks, many blessings, waiting for one more when I can print on 12.04 | 19:37 |
| hamslaai | kilos: thx | 19:37 |
| hamslaai | langjan: found it: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&document=&product=1119599 | 19:37 |
| * inetpro enjoys seeing guys helping each other on this channel | 19:37 | |
| hamslaai | busy downloading - will read it quickly | 19:37 |
| Langjan | thnks | 19:37 |
| hamslaai | hmmm nice system by the way | 19:38 |
| Langjan | its been a pleasure but have had connection problems with ubuntu, none as serious as now | 19:39 |
| hamslaai | ok - no real info for ubuntu in the setup guide | 19:40 |
| Langjan | fax is us, lightning strike, but the rest is fine | 19:40 |
| hamslaai | gonna try the user guide | 19:40 |
| hamslaai | big file gonna take a while - please stand by | 19:41 |
| * Kilos could enjoy a ham salad | 19:41 | |
| Langjan | thanks hamslaai | 19:42 |
| hamslaai | first password on campus that i cracked ;-)) | 19:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:42 |
| Kilos | hamslaai, Langjan monthly ubuntu meeting on the 21st at 19.30 | 19:43 |
| Kilos | come visit us | 19:43 |
| Langjan | let me in on the joke, slow on the uptake pushing 70 | 19:43 |
| Kilos | the first password he cracked was hamslaai | 19:43 |
| Kilos | ham salad | 19:43 |
| Langjan | lmga | 19:44 |
| Kilos | peeps use funny passwords | 19:44 |
| Kilos | or kids names or animals they like | 19:45 |
| Langjan | peeps? | 19:45 |
| Kilos | people | 19:45 |
| Langjan | lmga | 19:45 |
| hamslaai | ok-non page 14 of the user guide - press the "Setup" button on the printer - then the arrow to scroll the the topics | 19:45 |
| hamslaai | stop at the ethernet or networking topic and take note of the settings | 19:46 |
| hamslaai | let us know | 19:46 |
| Langjan | trying | 19:47 |
| hamslaai | ok - standing by | 19:47 |
| Langjan | printing | 19:47 |
| hamslaai | good | 19:47 |
| hamslaai | is should have some ip address like 10.10.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 | 19:48 |
| Langjan | ip 10.0.0.3 | 19:48 |
| hamslaai | aah - thx | 19:49 |
| hamslaai | now what ip address does your computer have ? | 19:49 |
| Langjan | 10.0.0.3 | 19:50 |
| hamslaai | click on the networking icon with ubuntu 12.04 and then click on "Connection Informnation" | 19:50 |
| hamslaai | let us know | 19:50 |
| Langjan | did that, 10.0.0.3 | 19:50 |
| hamslaai | ok - the printer ip = 10.0.03 and your computer ? | 19:51 |
| Langjan | same | 19:51 |
| hamslaai | dude thers your problem - they must be different ! | 19:52 |
| Langjan | oh my! | 19:52 |
| hamslaai | do you use fixed ip's for any reason on any devices ? | 19:53 |
| Langjan | not that I am aware of | 19:53 |
| hamslaai | make sure all your devices use DHCP for network configuration | 19:53 |
| hamslaai | they will get a unique ip address from the router and everything will work | 19:54 |
| Langjan | how do I do that? | 19:54 |
| Langjan | devices meaning the computer and the printer? | 19:55 |
| hamslaai | yes - all of them connected to the router | 19:55 |
| Langjan | sounds easy, but where do I start? | 19:56 |
| hamslaai | not sure how to reset printer | 19:56 |
| hamslaai | i will send a screenshot of ubuntu network settings via email - standby | 19:57 |
| Kilos | good luck guys | 19:59 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 19:59 |
| Langjan | thanks kilos | 19:59 |
| Langjan | lekker slaap | 19:59 |
| Kilos | dankie\ | 19:59 |
| hamslaai | langjan: email sent | 20:02 |
| Langjan | ok, ipv4 is (was) right, I have changed the other machine to DHCP and the ip adress there is 10.0.0.1 | 20:06 |
| Langjan | looks like my printer ip should be 10.0.0.1? | 20:06 |
| hamslaai | ok - now open a terminal and type "ping 10.0.0.1" | 20:07 |
| hamslaai | does your computer have ip address 10.0.03 still ? | 20:08 |
| Langjan | yes. Terminal pinging | 20:09 |
| hamslaai | what kind of router do you have ? | 20:09 |
| Langjan | Telkom Mega 100WR | 20:09 |
| hamslaai | ok | 20:09 |
| hamslaai | so you can ping the printer from your computer now - correct ? | 20:10 |
| Langjan | 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_req=84 ttl=64 time=0.150 ms | 20:10 |
| hamslaai | and from 10.0.0.3 ? | 20:11 |
| Langjan | But From 10.0.0.3 icmp_seq=180 Destination Host Unreachable | 20:11 |
| hamslaai | so no reply from the printer - correct ? | 20:12 |
| Langjan | I assume so... | 20:12 |
| hamslaai | ok - check the printer cable connections - is it connected to the router ? is the light active on the router where it is plugged in ? | 20:13 |
| hamslaai | i assume your computer connection is good because you are chatting on the net - so i assume a printer network setup problem | 20:16 |
| Langjan | Yes, I have checked connections, light is on at E2, E3, DSL and Internet, faint on E1 | 20:16 |
| hamslaai | i suspect e1 - is that one used for the printer ? | 20:17 |
| Langjan | Yes E1 is printer | 20:17 |
| hamslaai | ok - unplug on both sides - the printer and router - then reconnect | 20:18 |
| Langjan | ok | 20:19 |
| hamslaai | then check printer info to see what the ip address is on the printer | 20:19 |
| Langjan | new printout? | 20:19 |
| hamslaai | yup | 20:19 |
| hamslaai | sorry | 20:20 |
| hamslaai | is e1 shing brightly on the router now ? | 20:20 |
| Langjan | IP still 10.0.0.3 on printer | 20:20 |
| Langjan | E1 is still a bit faint | 20:21 |
| hamslaai | ok - is e1 is a steady bright light try to ping the printer from your computer again | 20:21 |
| hamslaai | ok - pull out the usb cable that came with the printer and connect your computer to the printer via usb | 20:22 |
| hamslaai | may have a bad e1 port or bad network cable | 20:23 |
| Langjan | 10.0.0.1 ok, 10.0.0.3 unreachable | 20:24 |
| hamslaai | time to try usb | 20:24 |
| hamslaai | ok - connect via usb for now | 20:24 |
| Langjan | will have to get the cable, stand by plse | 20:25 |
| hamslaai | ok | 20:25 |
| Langjan | usb connected | 20:27 |
| hamslaai | u can also print via bluetooth - buy a bluetooth dongle - about R100 | 20:28 |
| hamslaai | ok - any pop-ups ? | 20:28 |
| Langjan | No but ping 10.0.0.3 success! | 20:29 |
| hamslaai | ok - try "sudo hp-setup" in a terminal again | 20:30 |
| Langjan | ok | 20:30 |
| Langjan | no devices found | 20:31 |
| Langjan | did you say that printer and computer ip's should be different? | 20:32 |
| hamslaai | strange - disconnect printer net work cable aand then reboot printer | 20:32 |
| hamslaai | yes | 20:32 |
| Langjan | ok | 20:33 |
| hamslaai | some of these old telkom routers have given me problems | 20:33 |
| hamslaai | ask telkom if you can upgrade | 20:34 |
| Langjan | they are both still 10.0.0.3 are they not? | 20:34 |
| Langjan | Telkom is a problem, will try but perhaps have to buy a new one | 20:34 |
| hamslaai | is the printer disconnected from the router now ? | 20:35 |
| Langjan | I disconnected, rebooted and reconnected, did I jump the gun? | 20:35 |
| hamslaai | are you connected via usb now ? | 20:35 |
| Langjan | yes | 20:35 |
| hamslaai | ok - remove any printer settings on your computer | 20:36 |
| hamslaai | see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne | 20:36 |
| hamslaai | try "sudo hp-check -r" as well | 20:37 |
| hamslaai | take note: networked scanner will not work via usb connection only. | 20:39 |
| Langjan | error: User needs to be member of group 'lp' to enable print, scan & fax. | 20:39 |
| Langjan | error: User needs to be member of group 'lpadmin' to manage printers. | 20:39 |
| hamslaai | you should only be connected via usb now | 20:39 |
| hamslaai | aah - something happening | 20:40 |
| hamslaai | ok - now type" adduser whatever lp" | 20:40 |
| hamslaai | whatever is your username | 20:41 |
| Langjan | Printer connection is disconnected but ethernet cable needs to remain for Internet | 20:41 |
| hamslaai | and "adduser whatever lpadmin" | 20:41 |
| hamslaai | yes - keep your computer connected | 20:41 |
| Langjan | lp users added | 20:44 |
| hamslaai | and lpadmin "? | 20:46 |
| Langjan | done | 20:46 |
| hamslaai | ok - try the setup again | 20:46 |
| Langjan | no devices found on usb | 20:48 |
| hamslaai | can you send me the output of "lsusb" | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2471 Pixart Imaging, Inc. SoC PC-Camera | 20:49 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046e:52c5 Behavior Tech. Computer Corp. | 20:49 |
| hamslaai | ok | 20:50 |
| hamslaai | is the usb cable from the printer connected to the computer ? | 20:50 |
| Langjan | yes | 20:51 |
| hamslaai | and is the printer switched on ? | 20:51 |
| Langjan | yes | 20:51 |
| hamslaai | ok | 20:51 |
| Langjan | let me try another usb port? | 20:51 |
| hamslaai | let me check something quickly | 20:51 |
| hamslaai | try this: http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Tips#Device_identification | 20:52 |
| hamslaai | then reboot your computer | 20:53 |
| Langjan | something's happening now | 20:53 |
| Langjan | be back shortly | 20:55 |
| hamslaai | ok good | 20:55 |
| Langjan | Hi hamslaai, still no devices found! | 20:58 |
| hamslaai | just checked: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_6300_series.html | 20:59 |
| hamslaai | it has usb id of 1008:21265 | 21:01 |
| hamslaai | try lsusb again | 21:01 |
| Langjan | lsusb | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:01 |
| Langjan | Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:02 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2471 Pixart Imaging, Inc. SoC PC-Camera | 21:02 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046e:52c5 Behavior Tech. Computer Corp. | 21:02 |
| hamslaai | what computer do you have ? | 21:02 |
| hamslaai | which distro ? | 21:02 |
| Langjan | Ubuntu 12.04 | 21:02 |
| hamslaai | do you use a usb hub ? | 21:02 |
| Langjan | usb hub? | 21:03 |
| hamslaai | ok no hub | 21:03 |
| hamslaai | how manny usn ports on your computer ? | 21:04 |
| hamslaai | sorry usb ports | 21:04 |
| Langjan | 2 front and 4 back | 21:05 |
| hamslaai | ok - is the usb cable connected to the back ? | 21:05 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:05 |
| hamslaai | is there an active led for the printer usb port ? | 21:06 |
| Langjan | no | 21:06 |
| hamslaai | let me read the guide again - stand by | 21:07 |
| hamslaai | the usb port on the printer is next to the network port- correct ? | 21:10 |
| Langjan | correct | 21:11 |
| hamslaai | the network cable is disconnected - correct ? | 21:11 |
| Langjan | yes, the usb cable fits in the same socket | 21:12 |
| hamslaai | what !? | 21:12 |
| hamslaai | there should be two sockets | 21:12 |
| hamslaai | one for usb and one for network | 21:13 |
| hamslaai | make sure the usb cable is connected to usb socket | 21:14 |
| hamslaai | will send screenshot via email | 21:14 |
| Langjan | the yellow cable is for the ethernet network, the grey is the printer (now disconnected and replaced by USB) | 21:15 |
| hamslaai | email sent | 21:16 |
| hamslaai | what colour is the usb cable ? | 21:17 |
| Langjan | sorry no, the usb cable is blue, is adjacent to (now disconnected) ethernet cable | 21:19 |
| hamslaai | ok - am sending setup guide | 21:20 |
| Langjan | thanks for diagram, connection is correct | 21:21 |
| hamslaai | so usb (blue cable) is connected to usb socket on the printer - correct ? | 21:21 |
| Langjan | correct | 21:22 |
| hamslaai | also usb (blue cable) is connected to usb socket on computer - correct ? | 21:22 |
| Langjan | correct | 21:22 |
| hamslaai | printer is switched on ? | 21:23 |
| Langjan | yes, printer is on, checked usb socket via flash drive, is functional | 21:23 |
| hamslaai | then this should work !? | 21:23 |
| hamslaai | the hp site affirms it is suported in 12.04 | 21:24 |
| hamslaai | via usb i mean | 21:24 |
| hamslaai | are all old printer settings removed ? | 21:25 |
| hamslaai | both pc and printer have been rebooted with us connected ? | 21:25 |
| hamslaai | sorru usb | 21:25 |
| hamslaai | damn one finger typimg | 21:26 |
| Langjan | Let me try reboot on both again? | 21:26 |
| hamslaai | lsusb shuold report it | 21:26 |
| hamslaai | is your username part of the admin group ? | 21:27 |
| hamslaai | try "sudo adduser username sudo" | 21:27 |
| hamslaai | username is your username | 21:27 |
| Langjan | done | 21:28 |
| hamslaai | type "groups" to see which groups you are a part of | 21:28 |
| Langjan | jan adm lp dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare | 21:29 |
| hamslaai | ok - send me a new lsusb output | 21:29 |
| Langjan | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2471 Pixart Imaging, Inc. SoC PC-Camera | 21:30 |
| Langjan | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046e:52c5 Behavior Tech. Computer Corp. | 21:30 |
| hamslaai | does the setup guide i sent you depict the correct printer ? | 21:31 |
| Langjan | yes | 21:31 |
| Langjan | hamslaai, I hate to do this, but can we continue at a later stage when it suits you ? | 21:32 |
| hamslaai | ok - no problem - send me a gmail | 21:32 |
| Langjan | Many thanks, I really appreciate your trouble and help. | 21:32 |
| hamslaai | A pleasure - have a good night | 21:33 |
| Langjan | God bless and may you have a restful night. | 21:33 |
| Langjan | Thanks | 21:33 |
| hamslaai | Thx | 21:33 |
| hamslaai | Bye | 21:33 |
| Langjan | Bye | 21:33 |
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