[07:01] goeie môre almal [07:37] heh superfly [07:37] goeiemore [07:56] hi inetpro [07:57] good morning charlvn [07:58] running some fat ldap queries [08:01] i _so_ want this tshirt: http://i.imgur.com/zQbyS.png [11:34] hi Kilos [11:36] hi there charlvn [11:37] hi superfly and others as well also too [11:38] i _so_ want this tshirt: http://www.google-store.com/google/WebContents/ProductDetails.aspx?request=seGeV5D2r0Q= [11:39] hi Kilos [11:53] hey, anyone talking? [11:53] hi psnel [11:53] need help with usb iburst. worked, then stopped. modeswitch? [11:53] hi Kilos [11:53] try plugin it into another usb port [11:54] if it worked then it most likely just forgot something [11:54] I did.. also rebooted, replugged. tried different ports. [11:54] It shows no signal [11:55] maybe the local tower is down [11:55] it did before. I switched networking/ wifi off at one time so it uses the iburst instead of that. [11:56] maybe. but it seems strange that it stopped working. yesterday. still no signal [11:56] eish [11:56] it also happened over a month ago when i manually built the drivers. [11:56] have you followed the iburst mails on our lists? [11:57] this one from PPA. Automatically patches driver, builds and installs - it's in DKMS so it updates automatically when kernel changes [11:57] yes... I wrote half of them :-) [11:57] ah [11:57] might the modem be in an inconsistent state? [11:57] ? [11:58] so it's friday... time for some star wors? http://i.imgur.com/pubCi.jpg [11:58] mode-switched? or something. not sure hoe to check or how or to what to switch [11:58] i use voda broadband [11:58] http://i.imgur.com/aoHJe.png [11:58] try sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch --reinstall [11:59] yea i Know. you got it easy. [11:59] ok. one mo [12:00] i hope i got that command right [12:00] thats why i prefer aptitude [12:01] yes it's right [12:01] done... replugged... [12:01] same [12:01] iburst light is green... [12:02] wtf? [12:02] (sorry) [12:02] do you use the network manager to connect? [12:02] no [12:02] pon del-provider [12:02] (RP-PPPOE plugin already part of it) [12:02] stock standard pppoe [12:03] it worked yesterday. i was able to browse the web [12:03] then just hang on here a while, guys are busy but im sure someone will have ideas [12:03] cool. thanks [12:03] im not very clued up [12:05] i used to have a hauwei 3g dongle and had a similar problem with vodacom [12:05] but it got fixed with an upgrade of ubuntu eventually [12:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/105545 [12:07] then later https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/868034 [12:07] yeah. most mobile wireless devices can be easily setup with Network Manager [12:07] except iburst. [12:08] wel.... heh heh in principle [12:08] it doesn't work always ;) [12:08] if i had to go back to using 3g i would simply get this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiFi [12:08] I even write a java app to monitor signal strength, and show connection, and everything [12:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Iburst [12:09] nice! [12:09] is your modem manager all up to date [12:09] I just updated that wiki [12:10] psnel++ [12:10] I think iburst is cheaper than the 3g carriers [12:11] if it works ya [12:12] hahahaha! http://iburst.co.za/neuvo.aspx?link=get_packages_adsl [12:12] "uncapped" with a fair use policy of 1gb per day [12:12] who are these guys kidding [12:13] haha [12:13] if you ask me, their prepaid rates are quite expensive: http://iburst.co.za/neuvo.aspx?link=get_packages_prepaid [12:13] guys who are told that they should get "uncapped", it's the new "new" [12:14] i got mine with a netbook special [12:14] downgraded later [12:14] unused bw carries over for a month [12:17] i don't care what they call it, as long as it's not false advertising [12:17] if you sell a 1gb per-day cap then don't call it uncapped [12:17] end of story [12:17] true [12:17] I get 10240.00 MB midnight-to morning [12:18] 10GB in 6 or so hours isn't too bad [12:19] over a month you can get down 300GB [12:19] what package? [12:20] i'm on pro10+ 10 gb i think for R173 + modem subsidy @ R103 [12:21] i don't know, you said it :) [12:21] oh [12:21] not 10gb every day. per month [12:21] you should know which package you're on :P [12:21] what?! you're kidding me [12:21] it's only for mobile [12:22] yeah mobile is always restrictive [12:22] i use adsl @ home [12:22] ah ok [12:22] 20gb p/m (+1gb free per gig bought = +20gb; +1gb free) = 41Gb p/m [12:23] With auto-topup @ R29/gig [12:23] not too bad, for mobile [12:24] I don't torrent much hollywood these days since I got the cease-and-desist notice (twice) [12:24] no that's adsl [12:24] ISP: Afrihost [12:24] ouch, no in that case very expensive [12:25] 4mbps - sometimes I get 17-20 mbps ??? duno what that's about, but I'm not complaining [12:25] DL a whole series in like 10 mins [12:25] :-)) [12:25] brb coffee [12:28] yeah i don't do much BT these days unless when it's legal (eg creative commons licensed) stuff [12:29] yea me too [12:29] most of what hollywood is producing is commercial crap in any case [12:29] hollywood's mostly garbage anyway. [12:29] there are a few exceptions to that rule but those i would want to see on the big screen in any case [12:29] yeah exactly [12:29] brb phone [12:29] animeplus.tv and animeultima.tv has much more for my interests [12:31] plus what hollywood is trying to do to the internet ticks me off [12:31] MPAA & RIAA [12:31] they can take their commercial crap and shuv it where it belongs :P [12:32] I watch a lot of science, debate, docu's [12:32] politics, activism [12:33] stuff that doesn't feed me the junk food of the common lowest denominator -- they actually screen movies etc to see if it's too "smart", meaning they'll lose viewers, so they dumb it down [12:35] damn, tho only other guy who had ideas about fixing my problem just left [12:40] Does anyone know a channel where people may be knowledgeable on how to get the iburst to work - it worked yesterday [12:41] you could try #glug.za [12:41] tx [12:41] or perhaps # and #clug on irc.atrum.org [13:09] psnel: what does this mean? 24Hrs Booster Price [13:10] * inetpro should perhaps try iBurst again [13:14] not sure what that means [13:16] * inetpro wonders how can I test my iBurst signal at home without spending to much [13:22] if you phone them up they should be able to provide you with more info or come out to your premises and take a reading? [13:22] charlvn: good idea, thanks [13:23] if it works it could be much cheaper than my 8ta connection [13:24] sadly ADSL is still not an option for me [13:24] inetpro: are there any WUGs in your area? [13:25] if you have a friend or somebody you trust that is connected to the wug, perhaps they can give you a vpn into their adsl connection [13:25] charlvn: to far away, I tried that option some time ago [13:25] ah i see [13:25] we got some very good mileage using the right antennas and equipment using 802.11g in the garden route [13:26] but the trick is you need to have a flat area with a high site [13:26] if you live somewhere with no high regions or too many mountains it gets difficult [13:27] hmm... [13:27] perhaps I should look at this option again [13:29] you just need the right equipment, you can get ridiculous distance [13:30] sorry make the above 802.11n not 802.11g [13:30] on 5.2 GHz [13:30] because the 2.4 GHz range was too cluttered in george [13:31] you get mobile boosters too. not sure about iburst [13:36] charlvn: but how would I get onto the internet via the WUG? Those guys are very adamant in their refusal to allow internet on the WUG network [13:45] inetpro: it's irrelevant what they think about it, they don't know what the traffic is that's passing on the wan if it's encrypted [13:45] just use openvpn or the likes [13:45] connect to an openvpn server at your friend's house and then exit the wan using his/her internet connection [13:47] charlvn: but I don't have a friend on the WUG, at least not that I know of [13:48] ok then you have a problem :) [14:23] good to see some WUG talk, good old days [14:33] ok i'm off, bbl [17:41] aloha [17:48] lo magespawn [17:48] Howdy everyone [17:48] sup? [17:49] Not much and you? [17:50] chilling. waiting for xfce 4.10 download and install to complete [17:51] Not enjoying unity? [17:53] good evening [17:53] Howdy inetpro [17:54] magespawn: sup? [17:54] hmm... I see not much :-) [17:55] Not much, boys night with fish 1 watching Farscape [17:55] farscape? [17:56] Sci fi program bit like startrek [17:57] ah [17:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farscape [17:58] star trek on drugs [18:00] Startrek from Oz, but it is kid friendly in most places, so its okay for the fish to watch. [18:00] Guten Abend Kilos [18:00] hi superfly inetpro psydroid and others [18:01] net my geluk om jou hier te vang [18:01] hi everyone [18:01] hoe kan ons met kubuntu hierdie hele site aflaai asb. [18:01] Hi Kilos, superfly [18:02] Kilos: watse site? [18:02] hi magespawn [18:02] http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/tinycorelinux/tce/ [18:02] patience is a virtue [18:02] ek moes soek man [18:02] Kilos: wat is dit? [18:03] al die pakkete vir tinycore linux [18:03] eish! [18:03] ian kan dit vir my kry [18:03] wat eish? [18:03] vir wat wil jy so moeilik raak, is daar nie 'n ISO nie? [18:04] ja hy het die iso [18:04] hierdie is al die ander goed soos gimp xchat en so aan [18:04] Kilos: why do you want TinyCore? [18:04] die hele iso is net 66m [18:05] Kilos: yes, but that's because it's not a user-friendly version of Linux [18:05] they remove almost *everything* [18:05] and then you have to sukkel to get stuff installed. [18:05] as a fall back when i have got data to upgrade new ubuntu's superfly [18:05] hmm... [18:05] hi Kilos [18:05] Kilos: there's no point, you're going to sukkel more than anything else [18:05] hi superfly [18:06] Kilos: I agree with superfly [18:06] hi inetpro [18:06] Kilos: you're chasing after something that you don't actually need [18:06] hi psydroid [18:06] Hey psydroid [18:06] psydroid: hiho [18:06] Kilos: just because the ISO is 66m doesn't mean it will work for you [18:06] hi magespawn [18:06] in fact, that's a good indication that it *won't* work for you [18:07] i have the basic iso of 11m and it doesnt look too bad superfly [18:07] i also have the how to file [18:08] Kilos: but all those files on that site will amount to a massive lot of data [18:08] only prob with the 11m iso is it needs other files to be able to install to hdd [18:08] he has uncapped inetpro [18:09] linux is linux, and those files probably make up for the rest of linux [18:09] ubuntu just makes it so much easier [18:09] or debian [18:10] i will still keep ubuntu going but its better to stay online all the time than use all that data updating [18:10] if he has uncapped why not get the full ubuntu repo? [18:10] im already 200m behind with 11.04 [18:10] How big is the ubuntu repo? [18:11] 40g [18:11] That would take awhile to get [18:11] yeah [18:11] easier if you know a friend [18:12] and cheaper [18:12] anyway is there a way to download that whole site with one command or not [18:12] Wget? [18:13] Kilos: yes, but do you know how much it is? [18:13] wget [18:13] i thought of that but what do you need to add to the link [18:13] how does one see how big it is [18:13] he says there is like 150 packages [18:14] you ask the guys who host the site [18:14] whew [18:14] o/ hi oom Kilos [18:14] hi nuvolari [18:15] and inetpro, psydroid, superfly [18:15] nuvolari: wb [18:15] you chased him [18:15] nuvolari: grrr, you messed up my screencast [18:16] superfly: hmm... are you taking pictures of me? [18:16] eh? what do you mean? [18:17] magespawn: Unity lasted only as long as it took me to install Gnome3 [18:17] lol\ [18:17] Hah [18:17] * inetpro hides behind the wall [18:18] haha [18:19] Superfly what are you talking about? [18:19] * nuvolari thumb-tumbles [18:19] I didn't do anything [18:21] did psnel win with his iburst goodie? [18:23] Kilos: for Tiny Core support go to #tinycorelinux [18:23] ty inetpro i will try them but you know only this site is really friendly [18:26] Kilos: tbh I don't think you want Tiny Core [18:27] way to minimalistic [18:32] Kilos: then why bother with TinyCore? we don't know TinyCore, we know Ubuntu [18:33] yeah superfly . my prob is them updates. i am going 2 months on less than the first ubuntu update [18:34] Kilos: it's not going to be any different on TinyCore [18:34] Kilos: TinyCore is also going to have updates [18:34] ok [18:35] Kilos: Just because TinyCore has a small ISO doesn't mean it's not going to require updating [18:36] yeah but i was thinking if it is like 66m for the iso updates cant be big [18:37] Kilos: No, they are unrelated, I told you [18:38] i dont understand the unrelated bit superfly [18:42] Kilos, We do not advocate downloading complete repos.\ [18:42] oh well [18:44] Kilos: The GIMP is no longer part of Ubuntu, you have to download that separately. So every time you get an update, you have to download all of the GIMP again. [18:45] Kilos: The GIMP is not part of TinyCore, you have to download that separately. Every time you get an update, you have to download all of the GIMP again. [18:45] oh i see ty superfly [18:46] yeah gimp and xchat are in those packages [18:46] i dont update this gimp anyway the one i have works kiff [19:03] wb magespawn [19:03] hey Kilos [19:04] all sorts of wierdness happening tonight [19:07] our nets get kinda sick at times [19:14] yup and xchat on the phone would not connect [19:15] eish [19:15] hi hamslaai [19:19] toods [19:19] he didnt last long [19:24] hi hamslaai [19:24] langjan: hi i am hamslaai [19:26] langjan: hi [19:26] I have posted some outcomes to the HP site, shall we wait to see what they come up with? [19:26] langjan: did u read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne [19:27] hi Langjan [19:27] Hi Kilos, hamslaai yes, the steps did not help, so I posted the suggested outcome via terminal [19:27] they mention: " Delete any entries for this printer in System->Administration->Printers." [19:28] did u try: "sudo hp-setup" [19:28] Right, I did that then ran setup as they suggest, did not find printer [19:29] ok- does the printer have an info panel - to print or display it's network setting ? [19:30] in other words - what is it's ip address on the network ? [19:30] I found that a few days ago, saved it in a doc which I can find [19:31] ok - lets try to ping it from your computer first [19:31] open a terminal and type " ping 192.168.1.2" for example [19:33] can you post the network settings ? [19:34] I ran ifconfig, then got many settings, is inet addr the rigth one? [19:34] nope - you need to go the printer and find out it's network settings [19:35] can you send me the make and model so that i can google it [19:35] HP Officejet 6313 [19:35] ok stand by [19:35] thanks [19:36] are you well kilos? [19:36] yes ty Langjan and you [19:36] hamslaai, welcome to ubuntu-za [19:37] grateful thanks, many blessings, waiting for one more when I can print on 12.04 [19:37] kilos: thx [19:37] langjan: found it: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&document=&product=1119599 [19:37] * inetpro enjoys seeing guys helping each other on this channel [19:37] busy downloading - will read it quickly [19:37] thnks [19:38] hmmm nice system by the way [19:39] its been a pleasure but have had connection problems with ubuntu, none as serious as now [19:40] ok - no real info for ubuntu in the setup guide [19:40] fax is us, lightning strike, but the rest is fine [19:40] gonna try the user guide [19:41] big file gonna take a while - please stand by [19:41] * Kilos could enjoy a ham salad [19:42] thanks hamslaai [19:42] first password on campus that i cracked ;-)) [19:42] lol [19:43] hamslaai, Langjan monthly ubuntu meeting on the 21st at 19.30 [19:43] come visit us [19:43] let me in on the joke, slow on the uptake pushing 70 [19:43] the first password he cracked was hamslaai [19:43] ham salad [19:44] lmga [19:44] peeps use funny passwords [19:45] or kids names or animals they like [19:45] peeps? [19:45] people [19:45] lmga [19:45] ok-non page 14 of the user guide - press the "Setup" button on the printer - then the arrow to scroll the the topics [19:46] stop at the ethernet or networking topic and take note of the settings [19:46] let us know [19:47] trying [19:47] ok - standing by [19:47] printing [19:47] good [19:48] is should have some ip address like 10.10.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 [19:48] ip 10.0.0.3 [19:49] aah - thx [19:49] now what ip address does your computer have ? [19:50] 10.0.0.3 [19:50] click on the networking icon with ubuntu 12.04 and then click on "Connection Informnation" [19:50] let us know [19:50] did that, 10.0.0.3 [19:51] ok - the printer ip = 10.0.03 and your computer ? [19:51] same [19:52] dude thers your problem - they must be different ! [19:52] oh my! [19:53] do you use fixed ip's for any reason on any devices ? [19:53] not that I am aware of [19:53] make sure all your devices use DHCP for network configuration [19:54] they will get a unique ip address from the router and everything will work [19:54] how do I do that? [19:55] devices meaning the computer and the printer? [19:55] yes - all of them connected to the router [19:56] sounds easy, but where do I start? [19:56] not sure how to reset printer [19:57] i will send a screenshot of ubuntu network settings via email - standby [19:59] good luck guys [19:59] night all sleep tight [19:59] thanks kilos [19:59] lekker slaap [19:59] dankie\ [20:02] langjan: email sent [20:06] ok, ipv4 is (was) right, I have changed the other machine to DHCP and the ip adress there is 10.0.0.1 [20:06] looks like my printer ip should be 10.0.0.1? [20:07] ok - now open a terminal and type "ping 10.0.0.1" [20:08] does your computer have ip address 10.0.03 still ? [20:09] yes. Terminal pinging [20:09] what kind of router do you have ? [20:09] Telkom Mega 100WR [20:09] ok [20:10] so you can ping the printer from your computer now - correct ? [20:10] 64 bytes from 10.0.0.1: icmp_req=84 ttl=64 time=0.150 ms [20:11] and from 10.0.0.3 ? [20:11] But From 10.0.0.3 icmp_seq=180 Destination Host Unreachable [20:12] so no reply from the printer - correct ? [20:12] I assume so... [20:13] ok - check the printer cable connections - is it connected to the router ? is the light active on the router where it is plugged in ? [20:16] i assume your computer connection is good because you are chatting on the net - so i assume a printer network setup problem [20:16] Yes, I have checked connections, light is on at E2, E3, DSL and Internet, faint on E1 [20:17] i suspect e1 - is that one used for the printer ? [20:17] Yes E1 is printer [20:18] ok - unplug on both sides - the printer and router - then reconnect [20:19] ok [20:19] then check printer info to see what the ip address is on the printer [20:19] new printout? [20:19] yup [20:20] sorry [20:20] is e1 shing brightly on the router now ? [20:20] IP still 10.0.0.3 on printer [20:21] E1 is still a bit faint [20:21] ok - is e1 is a steady bright light try to ping the printer from your computer again [20:22] ok - pull out the usb cable that came with the printer and connect your computer to the printer via usb [20:23] may have a bad e1 port or bad network cable [20:24]