| mighty_aboba | len-dt, hi | 01:47 |
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| mighty_aboba | I did what you sad | 01:47 |
| mighty_aboba | Now if the jackd stops with errors I'm killing jackdbus and on new launch of qjackctl | 01:49 |
| mighty_aboba | All ok | 01:49 |
| mighty_aboba | Jackd starts well | 01:49 |
| Len-nb | mighty_aboba, Glad it works now. | 01:50 |
| mighty_aboba | thanks for advices) | 01:50 |
| mighty_aboba | maybe | 01:51 |
| mighty_aboba | somehow | 01:51 |
| Len-nb | I'm just learning so much... myself. | 01:51 |
| mighty_aboba | could I to do some script? | 01:53 |
| mighty_aboba | or in qjackctl preferences | 01:53 |
| Len-nb | Script to do what? | 01:54 |
| mighty_aboba | could I write "kill jackdbus auto" on exit scenario? | 01:55 |
| mighty_aboba | Script for jackdbus process killing | 01:55 |
| mighty_aboba | In order to kill jackdbus process not manually | 01:57 |
| Len-nb | yes.... on the settings panel for qjackctl the second tab (options) there are four times a script can be run. before starting, after starting, bfore stopping and after stopping. | 01:58 |
| Len-nb | I use after starting to start a2jmidid for example. | 01:58 |
| mighty_aboba | What is the right command for the jackdbus killing? | 01:59 |
| Len-nb | jack_control exit should work. | 02:00 |
| Len-nb | or if all else fails killall -9 jackdbus | 02:01 |
| mighty_aboba | Thanks again :) | 02:01 |
| Len-nb | let me know how it goes. | 02:02 |
| mighty_aboba | Ok ;) | 02:02 |
| Len-nb | you may have to use the before stopping option. | 02:02 |
| mighty_aboba | is it the third option? All captions of the menu and preferences are translated on Russian) | 02:06 |
| mighty_aboba | I have | 02:06 |
| Len-nb | Should be the third. | 02:06 |
| mighty_aboba | Yes, jack_control exit is work | 02:20 |
| mighty_aboba | But if I choose the fourth option | 02:21 |
| mighty_aboba | After exit | 02:21 |
| mighty_aboba | And | 02:21 |
| mighty_aboba | I have the errors when I'm stoping jack anyway | 02:22 |
| mighty_aboba | and the start button is locked | 02:24 |
| mighty_aboba | But now | 02:24 |
| mighty_aboba | I can to press exit button and launch the | 02:26 |
| mighty_aboba | launch the qjackctl and jackd normally | 02:26 |
| mighty_aboba | I think it is the working decision until the bug fix | 02:29 |
| mighty_aboba | ) | 02:29 |
| Len-nb | That is what I found when I tried it just now too. | 02:31 |
| mighty_aboba | :-) | 02:31 |
| Len-nb | I am just now figguring out how to put my netbook into "performance mode" | 02:32 |
| Len-nb | It wants to run at half speed most of the time. | 02:33 |
| mighty_aboba | Do you have juppiter applet? | 02:35 |
| mighty_aboba | Jupiter* | 02:35 |
| mighty_aboba | https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiter | 02:36 |
| mighty_aboba | Maybe this can help | 02:38 |
| Len-nb | looking | 02:43 |
| Len-nb | Probably more than I need. I set cpufreq governing to performance in rc.local... just found out the process that sets it to ondemand waits 60 seconds to give the user time to log in... So I have to set my script to wait longer. | 02:46 |
| Len-nb | Actually, I am setting up runlevel 3 to stop processes that might interfere with audio work. | 02:47 |
| Len-nb | The idea is to be able to switch to a high performance mode at will. | 02:48 |
| mighty_aboba | is somebody trying to install new xfce 4.10? | 14:14 |
| stilbene | Hi | 14:31 |
| stilbene | Does anyone know how to put ubuntustudio on a USB and get persistence to work? | 14:31 |
| stilbene | I made a liveUSB of it and I really like it, but the casper stuff doesn't do anything | 14:33 |
| holstein | stilbene: i would just install to the USB | 14:34 |
| stilbene | whaddya mean? | 14:35 |
| holstein | i put GRUB on the USB, and choose it from the bios just like i would a live USB | 14:35 |
| holstein | its persistent | 14:35 |
| holstein | and its a full install on an ext partition | 14:35 |
| holstein | stilbene: you get me? | 14:38 |
| stilbene | um | 14:38 |
| stilbene | oh | 14:39 |
| holstein | just do a normal install choosing the USB drive as the destination, putting GRUB there on the USB stick | 14:39 |
| stilbene | so you actually burn a cd and install FROM that TO the USB? | 14:39 |
| holstein | stilbene: you can install from whatever media you want | 14:39 |
| holstein | CD.. another USB... some other hard drive | 14:39 |
| holstein | the install destination is what im discussing | 14:39 |
| stilbene | but basically I run the liveCD and use the install button to install it to the USB? | 14:40 |
| holstein | stilbene: you choose the USB stick as the installation destination | 14:40 |
| holstein | stilbene: however you choose to do that is up to you | 14:41 |
| stilbene | ok | 14:41 |
| holstein | i would consider not having swap | 14:41 |
| stilbene | do I need to use gparted on the thumbdrive before I click the install button? | 14:41 |
| holstein | stilbene: if you'd like | 14:42 |
| holstein | stilbene: if you want to do some tasks with gparted that you feel the installation partitioner wont handle | 14:42 |
| stilbene | k | 14:43 |
| stilbene | thanks | 14:43 |
| stilbene | I'll try that | 14:43 |
| toodiesel | hey all, i'm running xinerama on 2 monitors and if my mouse speed is fast when switching screens (right to left), the mouse is placed all the way to the left of the left screen, but if i go slow, it will act "normally" | 15:11 |
| holstein | toodiesel: i dont follow | 15:11 |
| holstein | toodiesel: is this 12.04? | 15:11 |
| toodiesel | yes | 15:12 |
| holstein | you can try #xubuntu or #ubuntu if you dont get an answer here | 15:12 |
| toodiesel | holstein: thanks, i'll try there | 15:13 |
| holstein | toodiesel: feel free and elaborate here though | 15:13 |
| holstein | toodiesel: i just dont know what you mean | 15:13 |
| toodiesel | ahh, ok | 15:13 |
| holstein | sounds like a hardware glitch to me | 15:13 |
| toodiesel | i'm running two monitors | 15:13 |
| toodiesel | and when i get to the left edge of my right monitor, i want the mouse to appear on the right of the left monitor | 15:13 |
| toodiesel | which it does, when i move the mouse really slow | 15:13 |
| holstein | toodiesel: i would review the config you are using | 15:14 |
| holstein | i would try a different mousc | 15:14 |
| toodiesel | but if i move it with any quickness, it goes all the way to the left | 15:14 |
| holstein | mouse* | 15:14 |
| holstein | i would load up a live CD, and try arandr | 15:14 |
| holstein | i would try and get the hardware out of the equation, then the config you have | 15:14 |
| toodiesel | holstein: thanks, will try randr , i'm using the amdcccle software now for everything, had randr on previous config and was working | 15:15 |
| toodiesel | holstein: thanks | 15:15 |
| MaynardWaters | hey guys, I installed ubuntu studio from repos on top of a 11.04 clean install. I have jack working and I can open ardoir files which I created on another computer. I am trying to get a) more info about installing the lowlatancy-kernel ( have used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel which provides the ppa, but I was unable to actually install the kernel from the ppa. any advice is welcome. b) I | 17:13 |
| mighty_aboba | do you want to install realtime or lowlatency? | 17:15 |
| mighty_aboba | In 12.04 lowlatency is default kernel | 17:15 |
| MaynardWaters | according to my research lowlatency is the better choice for me | 17:15 |
| mighty_aboba | try uname -r | 17:15 |
| MaynardWaters | i like 11.04 it has been much nicer to me than 12 | 17:15 |
| mighty_aboba | i think it is matter of habit :) | 17:16 |
| MaynardWaters | uname -r returns 2.6.38-15-generic | 17:17 |
| MaynardWaters | mighty_aboba: what habit? | 17:17 |
| holstein | whats wrong with the generic one? | 17:17 |
| holstein | i suggest trying it, and moving on if you need lower latency, which most folks dont | 17:17 |
| MaynardWaters | it works ok, but I am trying to get a top notch recording DAW off the ground, and that requires lowlatency | 17:18 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: it actually doesnt | 17:18 |
| holstein | but, if you need it, you need it | 17:18 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: i have been trying it and it works ok, I want to try to make it work better | 17:18 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: it wont work better | 17:18 |
| holstein | it will only give you lower latency | 17:18 |
| holstein | and that is either something you need or not | 17:19 |
| holstein | otherwise, its a waste of time | 17:19 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: you have experience with the these kernels? are they all THAT buggy? | 17:19 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: i didnt say buggy | 17:19 |
| holstein | i said waste of time | 17:19 |
| MaynardWaters | you just dont see enough improvement to warrent the effort then? | 17:19 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: depends on the purpose | 17:19 |
| mighty_aboba | MaynardWaters: what is you native language? | 17:20 |
| holstein | if its a live midi synth rig, or a live effects processiong rig, then you need low latency | 17:20 |
| holstein | otherwise, who cares what the latency is | 17:20 |
| holstein | i use different profiles with JACK to have either 1.2ms latency, or sometimes 80+ms | 17:20 |
| MaynardWaters | I would like to eventually have 8+ channels recording at the same time with pthe possibility of additional effects getting through into the mix | 17:20 |
| holstein | i almost always have the 80+ profile in use | 17:21 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: yes I want it to be a live play toy | 17:21 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: then you need it | 17:21 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: but you'll need around 10ms | 17:21 |
| MaynardWaters | ok, now that I have shown that I need it will you help me with it? | 17:21 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: i think its unrealistic to do software effects like that | 17:22 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: can I ask we try to tackle the simpler problem first | 17:22 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: most studio's dont use the software to monitor like that | 17:22 |
| holstein | i hate it | 17:22 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: i dont see any problems.. but whats up? | 17:22 |
| holstein | i think monitoring with the software like that is a bad idea | 17:23 |
| holstein | and its more about the gear than the software | 17:23 |
| holstein | linux/JACK/ardour is *not* magic | 17:23 |
| MaynardWaters | well my primary problem is ladspa | 17:23 |
| holstein | i think you would have a good change using linux to get that going on, but its just not practical | 17:23 |
| holstein | nor is it neccessary | 17:23 |
| MaynardWaters | a good cahnge using linux? | 17:24 |
| holstein | chance* | 17:24 |
| holstein | more so than with other OS's potentially/arguably | 17:24 |
| MaynardWaters | ok, so lets focus on ladspa | 17:24 |
| MaynardWaters | synaptic package manager shows it to be installed | 17:25 |
| MaynardWaters | so I create a new bus in ardour, and I want to add some effects, but when i right click and look for the effects, it is empty | 17:26 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: i would try the 12.04 version live | 17:26 |
| holstein | see if all that is "just working" | 17:26 |
| holstein | you can ask in #ardour ,but the first thing will be to go and download from the ardour site the recent version and install | 17:27 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: i am very happy with a number of things I have working on this 11.04 install, I want to stick with it. do you have any suggestions that can help me figure out why the effects are showing up or why swh-plugins (Steve Harris's ladspa plugins arent recognized | 17:27 |
| MaynardWaters | good idea. | 17:28 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: if you just "try 12.04 live" then you might gather some helpful information | 17:28 |
| holstein | you can stay with 11.04 as long as you like past EOL which is actually not too far off :) | 17:28 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: I'll consider 12+ once I have exhausted efforts on my 11.04 install | 17:29 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: you dont even need to consider it | 17:29 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: you can just literally load it up as a troubleshooting step | 17:30 |
| holstein | you can just as well try AVlinux live... | 17:30 |
| holstein | yeah.. automation is not where to go... seablade will sort you out :) | 17:31 |
| holstein | you wont see automation for plugins since you havent added any yet | 17:31 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: yea, it was just my miss understanding of how it worked. but thanks for the help | 17:34 |
| nutate | hey yo | 17:44 |
| nutate | 12.04 64 bit ... wineasio ... ableton ... so close, yet so far | 17:45 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: are you the same from macumbista.net? | 17:49 |
| MaynardWaters | nutate: you are trying to get ableton working on wine?! major props. do you have any documentation to follow? | 18:09 |
| nutate | mmm | 18:14 |
| nutate | just ... double clicked it practically | 18:14 |
| nutate | problem is I actually authorized it... before I had WineASIO working | 18:14 |
| nutate | but it does work | 18:16 |
| nutate | just with maybe a 500ms latency | 18:16 |
| nutate | maybe less | 18:16 |
| nutate | and i have fglrx, with fasttls off | 18:16 |
| nutate | MaynardWaters, <<< sorry, didn't mention your nick, just in case you aren't afk | 18:18 |
| holstein | nutate: you could try #kxstudio ...i know a few folks there were into wine | 18:19 |
| holstein | i personally suggest the native tools | 18:19 |
| nutate | until bitwig is out, there is nothing like ableton | 18:19 |
| nutate | not to mention i own it | 18:19 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: i didnt know about macumbista :) | 18:20 |
| holstein | nutate: cool! good luck.. have you check wineHQ? | 18:20 |
| holstein | checked* | 18:20 |
| holstein | i assume you've asked ableton for linux support officially as well | 18:20 |
| nutate | holstein, ya, it's close... I'm at the point where I'm 99% certain it would work on a 32 bit install | 18:21 |
| holstein | theres nothing that would keep me froma 32bit install over a 64 | 18:21 |
| holstein | not for audio production | 18:21 |
| nutate | holstein, hah, not sure if i ever asked ableton directly about it... but i may have to if i have to request another unlock code | 18:21 |
| nutate | holstein, so you are saying 32 bit for audio | 18:21 |
| holstein | nutate: you should let them know that the product you purchased is not appropriately designed for your needs | 18:22 |
| nutate | holstein, well... i have like 2 macs and had a hackintosh | 18:22 |
| holstein | nutate: im saying if i needed something that required 32bit, i wouldnt lose any sleep over it | 18:22 |
| nutate | right | 18:22 |
| nutate | holstein, i've been in the Linux game pre amd64 | 18:23 |
| holstein | i would just run the software as its intended then | 18:23 |
| nutate | my macs are old... :D | 18:23 |
| holstein | or try learning/using native tools | 18:23 |
| nutate | plus it really runs fine, just the asio issue | 18:23 |
| holstein | you can ask in #kxstudio as i suggested, or #opensourcemusicians | 18:24 |
| nutate | i've recorded 2 songs in ardour over the past 10 years | 18:24 |
| nutate | about 10 in ableton over the last 3 | 18:24 |
| holstein | i think its a question of what you want to do, and how | 18:24 |
| nutate | i just find there isn't anything comparable to the ableton workflow | 18:24 |
| holstein | nutate: why should there be? | 18:24 |
| holstein | nutate: im just saying you *can* get things done with the native tools | 18:25 |
| nutate | holstein, well when bitwig.com releases, then there will be a 3 platform solution | 18:25 |
| holstein | potentially | 18:25 |
| holstein | its not going to be ableton though | 18:26 |
| nutate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_t8GfH-v4&feature=plcp | 18:26 |
| nutate | it will arguably be better | 18:26 |
| holstein | thats really the biggest problem with any/all the FOSS tools, they are not X software that one is used to | 18:27 |
| nutate | holstein, i ardour and protools and reaper are nearly interchangeable as daws | 18:27 |
| holstein | nah | 18:27 |
| nutate | (and add logic) | 18:27 |
| nutate | comparable to ableton and those tools they are | 18:28 |
| holstein | ardour stable doesnt have MIDI support | 18:28 |
| nutate | ardour is a subset of protools | 18:28 |
| holstein | i personally dont need them to be "interchangeable" | 18:28 |
| holstein | nutate: i dont see it that way | 18:28 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein, you seem to know about all the best FOSS musician irc hangouts | 18:29 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: its not my first day :) | 18:31 |
| holstein | nutate: have you looked at openoctave? | 18:31 |
| holstein | http://www.openoctave.org/ | 18:31 |
| MaynardWaters | nutate: will bitwig be open? | 18:32 |
| nutate | not until just now | 18:32 |
| nutate | MaynardWaters, not afaik | 18:33 |
| nutate | Here is a song I did in ableton: http://soundcloud.com/rseymour/back-to-back | 18:33 |
| nutate | somewhere i have one i did in ardour... but ardour acts more like a tape machine (with no midi) | 18:34 |
| holstein | nutate: nice | 18:34 |
| holstein | nutate: ardour3 has midi | 18:34 |
| holstein | nutate: with JACK, you just use what you like with ardour... rosegarden | 18:34 |
| holstein | i think most of the electronic guys i know dig qtractor | 18:35 |
| holstein | nutate: i could make that track without a computer though | 18:35 |
| holstein | nutate: i mean, im not dogging it at all.. im just questioning if you are offering it as an example of something "only ableton can do" | 18:35 |
| holstein | sounds great, if not a bit overloaded | 18:36 |
| holstein | http://pneuman.bandcamp.com/ | 18:36 |
| nutate | let me make it as quickly | 18:36 |
| holstein | ^ that is my friend [lsd] 's stuff | 18:36 |
| holstein | he uses ubuntu and FOSS tools | 18:36 |
| holstein | you can find him in #opensourcemusicians | 18:36 |
| holstein | you might be interested in http://wootangent.net/category/linux/ from his stie | 18:37 |
| holstein | site* | 18:37 |
| nutate | all instrumental? | 18:37 |
| holstein | nutate: some have vocals | 18:37 |
| nutate | (incidentally i made that track for the rpm challenge too) | 18:37 |
| holstein | cool | 18:37 |
| holstein | this was mine... http://holstein.bandcamp.com/ | 18:37 |
| holstein | *my RPM challenge | 18:38 |
| holstein | i feel like you can develop chops with any software | 18:38 |
| holstein | when i was using cubase, i had gotten a handle on the workflow | 18:38 |
| nutate | http://music.clark8.com/ < honestly not sure which one of these i did on ardour | 18:38 |
| holstein | when i went to ardour, there was an obvious learning curve | 18:38 |
| holstein | i feel like with JACK and the foss tools, there is *no* comparision for what can be done | 18:39 |
| holstein | the limiations are literally my skill and my imagination | 18:39 |
| holstein | its all open, so thing else can stand in the way | 18:39 |
| nutate | for giggles, i went and looked up how far back i could go with playing around with linux audio: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2003/2/26/93876 | 18:39 |
| nutate | holstein, your skill would overwhelm anything a computer would do | 18:40 |
| nutate | holstein, nice playing | 18:40 |
| holstein | nutate: thanks :) | 18:40 |
| holstein | im just not that skilled at coding or super technical computer software issues | 18:41 |
| holstein | anyways.. lots of folks in that #opensourcemusicians community doing electronic music with FOSS :) | 18:41 |
| holstein | im going to go hop on my bike for a bit... thanks for sharing nutate | 18:42 |
| holstein | nice music! | 18:42 |
| nutate | heh, thanks, likewise... i gotta get working | 18:42 |
| nutate | have fun | 18:42 |
| mbeierl | Trying to figure out using jamin for mastering. I use qtractor and the only way I seem to be able to use jamin is to play the tracks out from qtractor into jamin, then use the jamin out to record a new track in qtractor. This must be done in real time. Is there no bulk method? | 18:48 |
| nutate | as far as I can remember that's the only way to do it | 18:48 |
| nutate | in general that's how you master things tho | 18:49 |
| mbeierl | nutate, with dedicated hardware (I'm coming from a Boss BR-600) sure, but with software I would have thought there would be a quicker way to stream the data without having to play it. Kinda like how you can rip audio of a CD at 32x vs. playing the audio into a capture device and recording the WAV off of that... | 18:51 |
| mbeierl | nutate, but thanks for the confirmation. It'll save me time trying to do what probably is not reasonably done | 18:51 |
| nutate | i'm just recalling from ages ago... you could search for rendering from jamin | 18:54 |
| mrfre | i'm having trouble getting my usb wireless network device to connect | 21:54 |
| mrfre | using ndiswrapper and it see's the hardware | 21:54 |
| mrfre | present | 21:54 |
| mrfre | ubuntustudio 11.04 | 21:56 |
| holstein | MaynardWaters: do you have a windows driver? | 21:58 |
| holstein | im about to head out mrfre , but you can use #ubuntu for that | 21:59 |
| holstein | its not "studio" specific | 21:59 |
| mrfre | yes | 21:59 |
| mrfre | ok | 21:59 |
| mrfre | its just not showing up in my netowrk connections | 22:00 |
| mrfre | you say its an ubuntu channel problem? | 22:00 |
| mrfre | *problem for the ubuntu channel | 22:00 |
| MaynardWaters | holstein: for? | 22:52 |
| MaynardWaters | whats the machine mr...goine | 22:53 |
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