[01:47] len-dt, hi [01:47] I did what you sad [01:49] Now if the jackd stops with errors I'm killing jackdbus and on new launch of qjackctl [01:49] All ok [01:49] Jackd starts well [01:50] mighty_aboba, Glad it works now. [01:50] thanks for advices) [01:51] maybe [01:51] somehow [01:51] I'm just learning so much... myself. [01:53] could I to do some script? [01:53] or in qjackctl preferences [01:54] Script to do what? [01:55] could I write "kill jackdbus auto" on exit scenario? [01:55] Script for jackdbus process killing [01:57] In order to kill jackdbus process not manually [01:58] yes.... on the settings panel for qjackctl the second tab (options) there are four times a script can be run. before starting, after starting, bfore stopping and after stopping. [01:58] I use after starting to start a2jmidid for example. [01:59] What is the right command for the jackdbus killing? [02:00] jack_control exit should work. [02:01] or if all else fails killall -9 jackdbus [02:01] Thanks again :) [02:02] let me know how it goes. [02:02] Ok ;) [02:02] you may have to use the before stopping option. [02:06] is it the third option? All captions of the menu and preferences are translated on Russian) [02:06] I have [02:06] Should be the third. [02:20] Yes, jack_control exit is work [02:21] But if I choose the fourth option [02:21] After exit [02:21] And [02:22] I have the errors when I'm stoping jack anyway [02:24] and the start button is locked [02:24] But now [02:26] I can to press exit button and launch the [02:26] launch the qjackctl and jackd normally [02:29] I think it is the working decision until the bug fix [02:29] ) [02:31] That is what I found when I tried it just now too. [02:31] :-) [02:32] I am just now figguring out how to put my netbook into "performance mode" [02:33] It wants to run at half speed most of the time. [02:35] Do you have juppiter applet? [02:35] Jupiter* [02:36] https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiter [02:38] Maybe this can help [02:43] looking [02:46] Probably more than I need. I set cpufreq governing to performance in rc.local... just found out the process that sets it to ondemand waits 60 seconds to give the user time to log in... So I have to set my script to wait longer. [02:47] Actually, I am setting up runlevel 3 to stop processes that might interfere with audio work. [02:48] The idea is to be able to switch to a high performance mode at will. [14:14] is somebody trying to install new xfce 4.10? [14:31] Hi [14:31] Does anyone know how to put ubuntustudio on a USB and get persistence to work? [14:33] I made a liveUSB of it and I really like it, but the casper stuff doesn't do anything [14:34] stilbene: i would just install to the USB [14:35] whaddya mean? [14:35] i put GRUB on the USB, and choose it from the bios just like i would a live USB [14:35] its persistent [14:35] and its a full install on an ext partition [14:38] stilbene: you get me? [14:38] um [14:39] oh [14:39] just do a normal install choosing the USB drive as the destination, putting GRUB there on the USB stick [14:39] so you actually burn a cd and install FROM that TO the USB? [14:39] stilbene: you can install from whatever media you want [14:39] CD.. another USB... some other hard drive [14:39] the install destination is what im discussing [14:40] but basically I run the liveCD and use the install button to install it to the USB? [14:40] stilbene: you choose the USB stick as the installation destination [14:41] stilbene: however you choose to do that is up to you [14:41] ok [14:41] i would consider not having swap [14:41] do I need to use gparted on the thumbdrive before I click the install button? [14:42] stilbene: if you'd like [14:42] stilbene: if you want to do some tasks with gparted that you feel the installation partitioner wont handle [14:43] k [14:43] thanks [14:43] I'll try that [15:11] hey all, i'm running xinerama on 2 monitors and if my mouse speed is fast when switching screens (right to left), the mouse is placed all the way to the left of the left screen, but if i go slow, it will act "normally" [15:11] toodiesel: i dont follow [15:11] toodiesel: is this 12.04? [15:12] yes [15:12] you can try #xubuntu or #ubuntu if you dont get an answer here [15:13] holstein: thanks, i'll try there [15:13] toodiesel: feel free and elaborate here though [15:13] toodiesel: i just dont know what you mean [15:13] ahh, ok [15:13] sounds like a hardware glitch to me [15:13] i'm running two monitors [15:13] and when i get to the left edge of my right monitor, i want the mouse to appear on the right of the left monitor [15:13] which it does, when i move the mouse really slow [15:14] toodiesel: i would review the config you are using [15:14] i would try a different mousc [15:14] but if i move it with any quickness, it goes all the way to the left [15:14] mouse* [15:14] i would load up a live CD, and try arandr [15:14] i would try and get the hardware out of the equation, then the config you have [15:15] holstein: thanks, will try randr , i'm using the amdcccle software now for everything, had randr on previous config and was working [15:15] holstein: thanks [17:13] hey guys, I installed ubuntu studio from repos on top of a 11.04 clean install. I have jack working and I can open ardoir files which I created on another computer. I am trying to get a) more info about installing the lowlatancy-kernel ( have used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel which provides the ppa, but I was unable to actually install the kernel from the ppa. any advice is welcome. b) I [17:15] do you want to install realtime or lowlatency? [17:15] In 12.04 lowlatency is default kernel [17:15] according to my research lowlatency is the better choice for me [17:15] try uname -r [17:15] i like 11.04 it has been much nicer to me than 12 [17:16] i think it is matter of habit :) [17:17] uname -r returns 2.6.38-15-generic [17:17] mighty_aboba: what habit? [17:17] whats wrong with the generic one? [17:17] i suggest trying it, and moving on if you need lower latency, which most folks dont [17:18] it works ok, but I am trying to get a top notch recording DAW off the ground, and that requires lowlatency [17:18] MaynardWaters: it actually doesnt [17:18] but, if you need it, you need it [17:18] holstein: i have been trying it and it works ok, I want to try to make it work better [17:18] MaynardWaters: it wont work better [17:18] it will only give you lower latency [17:19] and that is either something you need or not [17:19] otherwise, its a waste of time [17:19] holstein: you have experience with the these kernels? are they all THAT buggy? [17:19] MaynardWaters: i didnt say buggy [17:19] i said waste of time [17:19] you just dont see enough improvement to warrent the effort then? [17:19] MaynardWaters: depends on the purpose [17:20] MaynardWaters: what is you native language? [17:20] if its a live midi synth rig, or a live effects processiong rig, then you need low latency [17:20] otherwise, who cares what the latency is [17:20] i use different profiles with JACK to have either 1.2ms latency, or sometimes 80+ms [17:20] I would like to eventually have 8+ channels recording at the same time with pthe possibility of additional effects getting through into the mix [17:21] i almost always have the 80+ profile in use [17:21] holstein: yes I want it to be a live play toy [17:21] MaynardWaters: then you need it [17:21] MaynardWaters: but you'll need around 10ms [17:21] ok, now that I have shown that I need it will you help me with it? [17:22] MaynardWaters: i think its unrealistic to do software effects like that [17:22] holstein: can I ask we try to tackle the simpler problem first [17:22] MaynardWaters: most studio's dont use the software to monitor like that [17:22] i hate it [17:22] MaynardWaters: i dont see any problems.. but whats up? [17:23] i think monitoring with the software like that is a bad idea [17:23] and its more about the gear than the software [17:23] linux/JACK/ardour is *not* magic [17:23] well my primary problem is ladspa [17:23] i think you would have a good change using linux to get that going on, but its just not practical [17:23] nor is it neccessary [17:24] a good cahnge using linux? [17:24] chance* [17:24] more so than with other OS's potentially/arguably [17:24] ok, so lets focus on ladspa [17:25] synaptic package manager shows it to be installed [17:26] so I create a new bus in ardour, and I want to add some effects, but when i right click and look for the effects, it is empty [17:26] MaynardWaters: i would try the 12.04 version live [17:26] see if all that is "just working" [17:27] you can ask in #ardour ,but the first thing will be to go and download from the ardour site the recent version and install [17:27] holstein: i am very happy with a number of things I have working on this 11.04 install, I want to stick with it. do you have any suggestions that can help me figure out why the effects are showing up or why swh-plugins (Steve Harris's ladspa plugins arent recognized [17:28] good idea. [17:28] MaynardWaters: if you just "try 12.04 live" then you might gather some helpful information [17:28] you can stay with 11.04 as long as you like past EOL which is actually not too far off :) [17:29] holstein: I'll consider 12+ once I have exhausted efforts on my 11.04 install [17:29] MaynardWaters: you dont even need to consider it [17:30] MaynardWaters: you can just literally load it up as a troubleshooting step [17:30] you can just as well try AVlinux live... [17:31] yeah.. automation is not where to go... seablade will sort you out :) [17:31] you wont see automation for plugins since you havent added any yet [17:34] holstein: yea, it was just my miss understanding of how it worked. but thanks for the help [17:44] hey yo [17:45] 12.04 64 bit ... wineasio ... ableton ... so close, yet so far [17:49] holstein: are you the same from macumbista.net? [18:09] nutate: you are trying to get ableton working on wine?! major props. do you have any documentation to follow? [18:14] mmm [18:14] just ... double clicked it practically [18:14] problem is I actually authorized it... before I had WineASIO working [18:16] but it does work [18:16] just with maybe a 500ms latency [18:16] maybe less [18:16] and i have fglrx, with fasttls off [18:18] MaynardWaters, <<< sorry, didn't mention your nick, just in case you aren't afk [18:19] nutate: you could try #kxstudio ...i know a few folks there were into wine [18:19] i personally suggest the native tools [18:19] until bitwig is out, there is nothing like ableton [18:19] not to mention i own it [18:20] MaynardWaters: i didnt know about macumbista :) [18:20] nutate: cool! good luck.. have you check wineHQ? [18:20] checked* [18:20] i assume you've asked ableton for linux support officially as well [18:21] holstein, ya, it's close... I'm at the point where I'm 99% certain it would work on a 32 bit install [18:21] theres nothing that would keep me froma 32bit install over a 64 [18:21] not for audio production [18:21] holstein, hah, not sure if i ever asked ableton directly about it... but i may have to if i have to request another unlock code [18:21] holstein, so you are saying 32 bit for audio [18:22] nutate: you should let them know that the product you purchased is not appropriately designed for your needs [18:22] holstein, well... i have like 2 macs and had a hackintosh [18:22] nutate: im saying if i needed something that required 32bit, i wouldnt lose any sleep over it [18:22] right [18:23] holstein, i've been in the Linux game pre amd64 [18:23] i would just run the software as its intended then [18:23] my macs are old... :D [18:23] or try learning/using native tools [18:23] plus it really runs fine, just the asio issue [18:24] you can ask in #kxstudio as i suggested, or #opensourcemusicians [18:24] i've recorded 2 songs in ardour over the past 10 years [18:24] about 10 in ableton over the last 3 [18:24] i think its a question of what you want to do, and how [18:24] i just find there isn't anything comparable to the ableton workflow [18:24] nutate: why should there be? [18:25] nutate: im just saying you *can* get things done with the native tools [18:25] holstein, well when bitwig.com releases, then there will be a 3 platform solution [18:25] potentially [18:26] its not going to be ableton though [18:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_t8GfH-v4&feature=plcp [18:26] it will arguably be better [18:27] thats really the biggest problem with any/all the FOSS tools, they are not X software that one is used to [18:27] holstein, i ardour and protools and reaper are nearly interchangeable as daws [18:27] nah [18:27] (and add logic) [18:28] comparable to ableton and those tools they are [18:28] ardour stable doesnt have MIDI support [18:28] ardour is a subset of protools [18:28] i personally dont need them to be "interchangeable" [18:28] nutate: i dont see it that way [18:29] holstein, you seem to know about all the best FOSS musician irc hangouts [18:31] MaynardWaters: its not my first day :) [18:31] nutate: have you looked at openoctave? [18:31] http://www.openoctave.org/ [18:32] nutate: will bitwig be open? [18:32] not until just now [18:33] MaynardWaters, not afaik [18:33] Here is a song I did in ableton: http://soundcloud.com/rseymour/back-to-back [18:34] somewhere i have one i did in ardour... but ardour acts more like a tape machine (with no midi) [18:34] nutate: nice [18:34] nutate: ardour3 has midi [18:34] nutate: with JACK, you just use what you like with ardour... rosegarden [18:35] i think most of the electronic guys i know dig qtractor [18:35] nutate: i could make that track without a computer though [18:35] nutate: i mean, im not dogging it at all.. im just questioning if you are offering it as an example of something "only ableton can do" [18:36] sounds great, if not a bit overloaded [18:36] http://pneuman.bandcamp.com/ [18:36] let me make it as quickly [18:36] ^ that is my friend [lsd] 's stuff [18:36] he uses ubuntu and FOSS tools [18:36] you can find him in #opensourcemusicians [18:37] you might be interested in http://wootangent.net/category/linux/ from his stie [18:37] site* [18:37] all instrumental? [18:37] nutate: some have vocals [18:37] (incidentally i made that track for the rpm challenge too) [18:37] cool [18:37] this was mine... http://holstein.bandcamp.com/ [18:38] *my RPM challenge [18:38] i feel like you can develop chops with any software [18:38] when i was using cubase, i had gotten a handle on the workflow [18:38] http://music.clark8.com/ < honestly not sure which one of these i did on ardour [18:38] when i went to ardour, there was an obvious learning curve [18:39] i feel like with JACK and the foss tools, there is *no* comparision for what can be done [18:39] the limiations are literally my skill and my imagination [18:39] its all open, so thing else can stand in the way [18:39] for giggles, i went and looked up how far back i could go with playing around with linux audio: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2003/2/26/93876 [18:40] holstein, your skill would overwhelm anything a computer would do [18:40] holstein, nice playing [18:40] nutate: thanks :) [18:41] im just not that skilled at coding or super technical computer software issues [18:41] anyways.. lots of folks in that #opensourcemusicians community doing electronic music with FOSS :) [18:42] im going to go hop on my bike for a bit... thanks for sharing nutate [18:42] nice music! [18:42] heh, thanks, likewise... i gotta get working [18:42] have fun [18:48] Trying to figure out using jamin for mastering. I use qtractor and the only way I seem to be able to use jamin is to play the tracks out from qtractor into jamin, then use the jamin out to record a new track in qtractor. This must be done in real time. Is there no bulk method? [18:48] as far as I can remember that's the only way to do it [18:49] in general that's how you master things tho [18:51] nutate, with dedicated hardware (I'm coming from a Boss BR-600) sure, but with software I would have thought there would be a quicker way to stream the data without having to play it. Kinda like how you can rip audio of a CD at 32x vs. playing the audio into a capture device and recording the WAV off of that... [18:51] nutate, but thanks for the confirmation. It'll save me time trying to do what probably is not reasonably done [18:54] i'm just recalling from ages ago... you could search for rendering from jamin [21:54] i'm having trouble getting my usb wireless network device to connect [21:54] using ndiswrapper and it see's the hardware [21:54] present [21:56] ubuntustudio 11.04 [21:58] MaynardWaters: do you have a windows driver? [21:59] im about to head out mrfre , but you can use #ubuntu for that [21:59] its not "studio" specific [21:59] yes [21:59] ok [22:00] its just not showing up in my netowrk connections [22:00] you say its an ubuntu channel problem? [22:00] *problem for the ubuntu channel [22:52] holstein: for? [22:53] whats the machine mr...goine