| nirvdrum | Hi. I'm trying to start up a job using setuid, but I need that to work as if it were a login shell. I.e., I need the unprivileged user's environment setup through the files in /etc/profile.d/ Is that doable? | 01:20 |
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| mattbillenstein | hi all | 02:25 |
| mattbillenstein | how do I clear the state for a stuck job? | 02:25 |
| mattbillenstein | status says my job is start/killed with a pid | 02:26 |
| mattbillenstein | but that pid doesn't exist | 02:26 |
| mattbillenstein | so stop just hangs | 02:26 |
| mattbillenstein | and start thinks it's already running | 02:26 |
| mattbillenstein | like, does upstart store this state somewhere? | 02:28 |
| mattbillenstein | anyone around? | 02:47 |
| etank | i am having an issue with the order that daemons are starting in 12.04 i think | 12:56 |
| etank | we use nis + autofs and i think that ypbind is trying to start before network-manager is up | 12:56 |
| etank | ypbind shows that it is running after a boot but ypwhich says "Can't communicate with ypbind" | 12:57 |
| etank | autofs is also running and it shows a pid | 12:57 |
| etank | ypbind however does not list a pid | 12:58 |
| etank | the only thing i can do to get the system working after a boot is to issue a "service ypbind restart; service autofs restart" | 12:59 |
| etank | is there a more upstart'ish way of doing this so i dont have to do it manually or add a sleep to rc.local? | 13:00 |
| JanC | etank: are ypbind & autofs upstart jobs or sysvinit scripts? | 13:53 |
| JanC | seems like they are sysvinit scripts? | 13:56 |
| etank | they are upstart jobs it seems | 13:57 |
| etank | they link to /lib/init/upstart-job | 13:57 |
| etank | they being start-ypbind, ypbind, network-manager and autofs | 13:57 |
| JanC | if there is an /etc/init/autofs etc. then they are upstart jobs indeed | 13:58 |
| etank | there are | 13:58 |
| etank | it seems that ypbind is starting too soon | 13:58 |
| etank | network seems to not be up when ypbind is trying to start | 13:59 |
| etank | should be network-manager -> ypbind -> autofs | 13:59 |
| JanC | network-manager being started doesn't mean network is up | 14:00 |
| JanC | there are events when network comes up though | 14:00 |
| JanC | net-device-up | 14:02 |
| etank | ok | 14:03 |
| etank | upstart is all new to me | 14:03 |
| JanC | so I guess those upstart jobs should wait for those events | 14:03 |
| etank | net-device-up needs to happen for non loop back interfaces | 14:04 |
| etank | then ypbind can start since it can contact the ypservers | 14:04 |
| etank | then autofs can start since nsswitch says to talk to nis for automounts | 14:04 |
| etank | you could substitute ldap in for ypbind for systems that authenticate to ldap i guess but the idea would be the same | 14:05 |
| JanC | etank: maybe there are more people in #ubuntu-server who are familiar with this particular type of setup | 14:06 |
| etank | network-manager.conf does not have a emit statement for net-device-up | 14:07 |
| etank | i will ask in ubuntu-server as welll | 14:07 |
| JanC | the "emit" stanza is just documentation anyway | 14:08 |
| JanC | and I think the actual events might be emitted by another job or maybe upstart-udev-bridge -- see upstart-events(7) | 14:13 |
| Telenull | Hello everyone. Is there a way to exec as an unprivileged user from an upstart? I've tried a few things that show up on superuser (using su -s and sudo -u, but they all cause it to start as root still). any ideas? | 21:24 |
| SpamapS | Telenull: two ways actually :) | 22:04 |
| Telenull | :P I ended up getting it working with sudo. | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | Telenull: if you have upstart 1.5 (Ubuntu 12.04 basically) then you can use 'setuid' and 'setgid' as keywords | 22:04 |
| Telenull | oh neat. | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | Telenull: otherwise sudo or start-stop-daemon work | 22:05 |
| Telenull | unfortunately i'm still on 10.04. | 22:05 |
| Telenull | the update to 12.04 will happen for me in about three months. | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | Telenull: there are some ideas in http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ | 22:05 |
| Telenull | Thanks for the info though! | 22:05 |
| Telenull | Awesome, thanks. | 22:05 |
| wookienz | morning any knowledgeable folk around? | 23:57 |
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