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knomenighty!00:01
pleia2in flavors testcases session00:10
pleia2yay, michag is here too00:19
pleia2micahg too00:19
* Unit193 starts to go to the slow site.00:21
Unit193pleia2: You have a link of how the automated ISO test works is?  There was a video session about it earlier and I was only paying half attention. :/00:35
pleia2Unit193: this is what was mentioned at the plenary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/UbuntuAutomationTestHarness00:36
Unit193Thanks.00:37
pleia2just talked to micahg, I'll email him a link to the current dev wiki that needs love and he'll work to edit and consolidate00:39
* pleia2 wanders out to lobby00:39
Unit193Right, I'll have to hunt down answers for my idiot questions. :P00:41
astraljavaYes, thank you! Can we please, PLEASE, get that factoid renamed? Now even users are complaining about it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/981070/04:21
cody-somervilleastraljava, no.04:44
astraljavaFine.04:45
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mr_pouityeah, +1 to change the factoid name, it's misleading08:36
Unit193As well as purelxde, puregnome, and purekde? ;)08:36
mr_pouitno idea for them, but we have to carry a few patches anyway, and use some non default configure flags, so that's not a "pure xfce" ;-)08:38
ochosi+108:39
mr_pouithttp://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/appearance << search for "LCD Hinting"09:06
mr_pouitwe might want to add that to our faq (it's in 4.10, but I backported this part to our package)09:06
mr_pouitI read some complaints about the fonts that don't look good, and I guess it's solved when people set this key to lcddefault09:07
mr_pouit(although it should only affect people who upgrade, since otherwise xubuntu-default-settings use lcddefault)09:08
knomeanother alternative is to edit the factoid and emphasize more that the solution is for "clean xubuntu", and that if they wanted "pure xfce", they'd need to do something else or that this isn't available09:18
knomewho is running psychocats.net anyway? could we ask *them* to add a paragraph about not being "pure xfce" too09:28
knomei mean, the page is clearly saying "remove kubuntu" etc., but still weirdly, getting to "pure xfce"09:28
ochosiwhy not link that factoid to a page in the ubuntu-wiki instead?09:29
ochosii mean we never know when psychocats decides when to take the site down09:30
ochosiand then it's just a link to a 40409:30
knomedo you want to maintain the page? :]09:30
ochosinot really :)09:30
ochosiat least not if you want me to do artwork stuff09:30
knomeit doesn't seem to be very probable that he *is* taking it down09:30
knomeand if he does, we can just remove the factoid then09:31
ochosiwell then ask the guy whether he wants to maintain the page in the wiki09:31
ochosi:)09:31
knome:|09:31
* knome doesn't want any more stuff in the wiki now that he cleaned it up09:31
ochosihehe09:31
knomeimo this site is completely *fine*09:31
knomewe can just edit the factoid and that's fine09:32
knomebut if the site owner could add a notification too, that would be great09:32
ochosiwhat notification?09:32
knomethat it isn't really "pure xfce" they are getting but "pure xubuntu"09:33
knomeooh, btw!09:34
knomewoot09:34
knomehttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce redirects to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu !09:34
knomejust the page title is wrong09:34
knomekde -> kubuntu etc09:35
Unit193And, wiki.ubuntu.com lags/fails/is slow all the time, the site isn't as bad. :P09:47
knomeyeah, that too09:56
knomehelp.ubuntu.com maybe...09:56
knomeis it possible to control the thunar folder view (eg. zoom) per-folder?12:30
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knomealso, is there any way i could increase the max thumbnail size?12:31
ochosiad 1) no12:33
ochosiad 2) what exactly do you mean, res of thumbnails or of their display-size in thunar?12:34
mr_pouit1) you could, but you'd need to store the view settings somewhere (e.g. in the gfile metadata for each folder). No idea of the impact on perfs.12:37
ochosimr_pouit: iirc jannis was always really opposed to that idea, so it'd need some other thunar maintainer (or a xubuntu-patch) :)12:38
mr_pouityes (and I don't intend to patch :p)12:38
mr_pouitI've only played with gio metadata for emblems (so that nautilus and thunar would share them, e.g. ubuntu-one emblems would be visible in thunar)12:39
ochosihmm, yeah, that would be nice i guess12:41
ochosii still don't like the position of the emblems a lot12:42
mr_pouit(but that was rather hackish https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8055)12:42
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.xfce.org: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (http://bugzilla.xfce.org/xml.cgi?id=8055)12:42
mr_pouitthanks for your contribution ubottu 12:43
ochosi:)12:43
ochosimr_pouit: btw, i wanted to ask you whether you have a clue how to query xfconf best from python or vala12:43
ochosisean davis (the bugreporter) is working on that keyboard-shortcuts overlay thingy12:44
mr_pouityou have the c api, and you can also call xfconf-query, but that's ugly and inefficient12:45
ochosiyeah, i guess so12:45
ochosithe other way would be to use an xml parser12:45
ochosibut that's also fugly12:45
ochosiso c/vala would be the best way then12:45
mr_pouityep12:46
ochosimkay, i don't think that'll make him happy, but hey.. :)12:46
mr_pouit(with the c api, you can also bind an object property to the xfconf property, and any change is reflected in both directions)12:47
mr_pouitunfortunately there are no bindings for other languages12:48
mr_pouit(or they are outdated)12:49
ochosiyeah. there were python bindings, but i thing they're dated12:49
ochosislowly getting blackbird into shape... http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05112012-041735pm.php14:17
bluesabrestill looking awesome14:23
ochosibluesabre: thanks. just fixed the treeview headers right now14:26
ochosibtw, i think porting to vala might really be the most sensible thing to do for the shortcuts-overlay14:30
bluesabreyeah, I've been working on the vala stuff14:30
ochosic bindings are the most efficient way of accessing xfconf (as expected)14:30
ochosiblackbird's gtk2 theme is ready for some testing now, i'm mainly interested whether the colours work for you guys: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Blackbird14:56
ochosii'm away for the weekend, have fun everyone!14:57
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/99823320:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 998233 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "xfce4-indicator-plugin fails to restart the sound indicator" [Undecided,New]20:44

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