[00:41] <gry> hi! why does ubuntu have a kvirc 4.1.1 in repos if latest stable is 4.0.4?
[00:47] <tsimpson> gry: looks like Debian started taking SVN snapshots instead
[00:55] <gry> tsimpson: No. Debian stable has a 4.0.2.
[00:55] <gry> tsimpson: http://packages.debian.org/stable/kvirc
[04:34] <alicia_b> hi  :)
[04:34] <alicia_b> Question about Kdenlive- How can I move a video channel above or below another video channel?
[05:10] <Daskreech> alicia_b: I've never used KDEnlive but that's an interesting question. You mean like an Alpha channel or vertically on the screen?
[05:10] <alicia_b> Daskreech: vertically on the screen
[05:11] <Daskreech> Hmm. it's a non linear video editor isn't it?
[05:14] <alicia_b> Daskreech: yes
[05:15] <Daskreech> http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/having-two-videos-same-time does that help? IT does seem like some work but pretty doable
[05:18] <alicia_b> looking
[05:21] <alicia_b> Daskreech: Nah, I'm just trying to move one of the channels below the other in the program layout. Nothing to do with compositing. I appreciate your help.
[05:24] <Daskreech> alicia_b: but it's PIP right?
[05:24] <alicia_b> Daskreech: idk
[05:25] <alicia_b> PIP?
[05:27] <Daskreech> Picture in Picture. Having two videos running at the same time on the screen
[05:30] <alicia_b> Daskreech: no i don't want pip
[05:30] <Daskreech> ok
[05:30] <alicia_b> Daskreech: I want to move one of the channels below the other in the program layout
[05:31] <alicia_b> I want to take Video1 and move it below Video2
[05:32] <Daskreech> how are they situated now?
[05:35] <alicia_b> Daskreech: Video1 is above Video2
[05:38] <Daskreech> as I said never used kdeenlive so this may be a a stupid question but can't you just drag them into place?
[05:41] <alicia_b> Daskreech: I can drag the clips within them, but I'm trying to figure out how to move the entire channel, because one channel may have 100 clips
[05:50] <Daskreech> Ah right I see
[05:51] <alicia_b> yeah, it's troublesome
[05:53] <Daskreech> I presume you asked on #kdenlive already?
[05:56] <alicia_b> Daskreech: yeah, it's dead in there
[06:03] <Daskreech> Yeah I've often heard that the forums are where you get help for that project
[06:11] <ashes> hello. i don't know where to ask this, and google's links are outdated. i have a 1.5ghz pentium-m notebook with 1.5gb memory, and a 64mb video device. i do use swap space during normal operation. youtube HD videos play terribly... what is the most likely cause?
[06:12] <ashes> i don't want to invest in more memory if the cpu is the problem
[06:12] <ashes> 2gb is probabyly the max i can have
[06:15] <Daskreech> ashes: Likely your videocard
[06:15] <Daskreech> P-M is not a very capable Processor despite the M
[06:15] <Daskreech> It's not for Multimedia. It's more for powersaving
[06:18] <ashes> hmm
[06:18] <skreech_> Flash is one of those bits of software that get progressively more hungry with each release.
[06:19] <ashes> skreech_: yes, i see that, but at the same time they can not allow themselves to become unusable
[06:19] <skreech_> As in noticeably more hungry. Adobe Reader used to be just as bad. You'd upgrade one version and it suddenly wouldn't be usable anymore
[06:19] <skreech_> ashes: Well they have dropped out of mobile since they can't adapt to that space so I think that your line of thinking seems flawed
[06:20] <ashes> flash has to be playable on a mobile phone, or else people simply won't use it
[06:21] <skreech_> Well Adobe killed all the future Flash on a Mobile projects
[06:21] <ashes> from what i see smart phones are taking over
[06:21] <skreech_> And that's with phonesgoing Dual and quad core
[06:22] <ashes> replacing laptops
[06:22]  * skreech_ hugs his Mer project
[06:22] <ashes> anyway. i don't want to get into what other people should do with themselves
[06:23] <ashes> i would just like to watch youtube videos
[06:23] <ashes> and it sounds like i need a new cpu
[06:23] <skreech_> ashes: For information gathering I can't imagine an office with everyone just doing work on their cellphones
[06:24] <skreech_> ashes: I just use youtube-dl but I may be a strange case
[06:25] <ashes> the mobile phone internet market is probably the most growing market
[06:25] <ashes> i also use youtube-dl, and then mplayer has amazing difficulty playing the mp4
[06:25] <ashes> i end up downloading a massive video
[06:27] <ashes> this problem is new as of 2012, for me
[06:28] <Daskreech> ashes: how old is the laptop?
[06:28] <ashes> my video chipset was put on market in 2000
[06:28] <alicia_b> ashes: What you could do is download videos locally and play the with a player like vlc
[06:28] <ashes> so about 10 years
[06:29] <alicia_b> ashes: I do it all the time, and the video's consume much less resources
[06:30] <ashes> alicia_b: i tried that, using mplayer, and the problem videos cause problems for mplayer too
[06:30] <ashes> most videos are ok, but some are a serious problem
[06:30] <Daskreech> ashes: do you have an example one?
[06:30] <ashes> sure
[06:30] <Daskreech> course I'm on a super beefy machine here so that doesn't help
[06:30] <alicia_b> ashes: "problem videos"? Could you link an example?
[06:31] <alicia_b> ashes: Also, you can set in youtube what your default player resolution is. Mine i set at the low 320p setting
[06:31] <Daskreech> alicia_b: Ick
[06:31] <alicia_b> s/is/should be/
[06:32] <ashes> ok
[06:33] <ashes> now the video is playing well, but i recently rebooted
[06:33] <alicia_b> hmmm
[06:33] <ashes> so this would be a ram issue
[06:34] <alicia_b> possibly?
[06:35] <alicia_b> ashes: Do you know how to check if your RAM is low?
[06:35] <ashes> i use free -m
[06:36] <alicia_b> ashes: Do you see a lot of harddrive accessing while trying to play videos?
[06:36] <ashes> not right now
[06:37] <alicia_b> You will see the hard drive light blinking a lot if it's a RAM issue
[06:37] <ashes> but i have fewer tabs open than normal
[06:37] <ashes> hmm
[06:37] <ashes> my cpu is about 15% idle
[06:38] <ashes> i'll have to look for a 2GB stick of memory
[06:38] <ashes> bump myself to 3GB or something
[06:38] <alicia_b> ashes: I have 1GB of ram in my system
[06:39] <ashes> i have 1.5
[06:39] <alicia_b> ashes: Are you using FF 11?
[06:39] <alicia_b> Firefox
[06:39] <ashes> chrome
[06:40] <alicia_b> Well there is an extension for Firefox that allows you to unload tabs from memory. It keeps the tabs in your tab bar, but they only load when you want them to. It's called bartab
[06:41] <alicia_b> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/
[06:41] <ashes> memory seems to be my problem. i'll find a big chip of memory, and my problem should go away
[06:42] <alicia_b> ashes: firefox can also be set to not load tabs into memory on startup
[06:44] <alicia_b> ashes: I use an indicator applet that sits in my tray at all times, it tells me if my system is using a lot of CPU or HD input/output.
[06:46] <alicia_b> ashes: If the issue is hard drive input output, then it's RAM, because the hard drive swap space is being used.
[06:46] <alicia_b> And hard drive swap space is super slow
[06:47] <ashes> the video i had a problem with, with mplayer, is working fine now. that means it's ram, not cpu
[06:47] <alicia_b> ashes: I would tend to agree
[06:48] <alicia_b> ashes: the extension bartab will save you on ram
[06:48] <ashes> k
[06:49] <ashes> i think chrome also does that
[06:49] <alicia_b> ashes: you could be right :)
[06:49] <ashes> i dropped two tabs and got about 50mb of memory back
[06:50] <ashes> chrome is especially good for multicpu systems, which i do not have
[06:50] <ashes> systems which have memory to spare
[06:51] <ashes> chrome puts each tab on a different cpu
[06:51] <alicia_b> I think the youtube player is different now, in that some of the videos they send only load into memory instead of being saved on disk. This could possibly also have an affect
[06:53] <andrey_> hi
[06:54] <andrey_> is it possible to perform the system administration of Ubuntu on the Python language?
[06:54] <andrey_> is it possible to perform the system administration of KUbuntu on the Python language?
[06:56] <alicia_b> andrey_: I'm not really sure what you mean by "system administration".
[06:59] <andrey_> administration of the system .., management of software, automation through cron, process control, etc.
[07:01] <andrey_> safety management systems Configuring Web servers, network protocols work with the system
[07:04] <skreech_> andrey_: Yes
[07:09] <andrey_> I just hesitate between what is best to learn python or C + + for this purpose ..
[07:12] <skreech_> For system Admin? Python is a much better choice
[07:12] <skreech_> You want small scripts for administration
[08:41] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:49] <alkisg> Hi, I have a nikon coolpix camera an in Ubuntu I can automatically access it with nautilus in this url:            gphoto2://[usb:002,005]/
[08:49] <alkisg> I installed gphoto2 in kubuntu but I still can't access the camera, any help? Do I need specialized software in KDE, like e.g. digikam?
[08:55] <lordievader> alkisg: How does your camera connect to your pc?
[08:57] <alkisg> lordievader: thank you, they answered me from #kde and I solved the problem by navigating to camera:/ from dolphin
[08:57] <lordievader> alkisg: Ah oke, great that it is working for you :)
[09:41] <Farlahelm> Hello
[09:41] <mokush> Farlahelm: hey
[10:13] <Armageddon> is there a way to restrict specific applications from showing in the tree ? as in package manager
[10:43] <cicciuzzo72> .
[10:59] <kpocha> Hello !
[10:59] <kpocha> Ther's someone whos speak spanishe there ?
[11:00] <szal> !es | kpocha
[11:00] <kpocha> thanks
[12:21] <natman> when im printing i am getting pages that look like QR codes across the page, yet other times the document prints fine, can anyone help
[12:24] <kbroulik> is there a way to find out which hardware/program is blocking Suspend To RAM?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:00] <kg_sl> Hi all, is there a permission system in Linux, where we can have differnt group permission for same file?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> kg_sl, yes
[14:03] <kg_sl> really.. mmm any reference ?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> users and groups , read and/or write permissions as a user or group
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !permissions
[14:07] <kg_sl> thank you for the info BluesKaj, but if we have two groups like admin and root and I want to have differnt permission for those two groups.. is that possible?
[14:08] <kg_sl> or do I need to read more on FilePermission ? :)
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !root
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !admin
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !info admin
[14:11] <kg_sl> no nope no.. I took an example.. lets say we have a file called.. test.. and it belongs to user:user.. I need group1 to have read permission file, group2 can only write into it?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> kg_sl, I'm an ordinary home user , so I'm not well versed in the various levels of permissions used in workplace situations'
[14:12] <kg_sl> oh ok.. but I really appreciate that u tried to help me :) thank u
[14:12] <BluesKaj> kg_sl, are you running kubuntu ?
[14:12] <kg_sl> yeap..
[14:12] <kg_sl> connecting thru Quassel
[14:13] <kg_sl> hehe
[14:15] <akoma1s> I'm kinda confused by http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.3 . Is 4.8.3 going to hit the Precise repos?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> ok , open the kmenu >computer>system settings>user management , there are options and settings there for users and groups and their various permissions
[14:15] <BluesKaj> kg_sl, ^
[14:15] <kg_sl> ok .. I'm looking into that
[14:16] <qbit> kg_sl: I don't know much of anything about this, but what you're looking for might be ACL (access control lists) - man acl might be a start
[14:17] <qbit> kg_sl: and I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to use - just aware it exists
[14:17] <BluesKaj> akoma1s, it's in the backports , sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then update  and dist-upgrade
[14:18] <akoma1s> BluesKaj: thanks for the fast reply :)
[14:18] <kg_sl> BluesKaj: maybe I would look at what qbit suggested, the default permission scheme seems not to support my requirement. Thanks for the suggestions qbit
[14:18] <akoma1s> I wanted a clarification on the "...until the packages are available in the official repositories." bit though
[14:19] <akoma1s> Does it referring to Quantal or Precise official repos?
[14:19] <akoma1s> Is it*
[14:19] <BluesKaj> kg_sl, ok , I'm glad qbit came up with that suggestion ..never heard of it
[14:20] <BluesKaj> akoma1s, both , 4.8.3 is default in quantal
[14:20] <kg_sl> yes.. I have heard.. but haven't used it.. time to read .. hehe.. thank you so much guys..
[14:22] <akoma1s> BluesKaj: right, thanks :)
[14:45] <Voodoo> hola
[14:47] <Voodoo> alguien sabe como instalar el draftsight en presice 64
[14:48] <BluesKaj> !es | Voodoo
[14:49] <Voodoo> gracias
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Voodoo, de nada
[14:55] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:56] <kg_sl> hello!!!
[14:56] <phoenix_firebrd> kg_sl: hi
[14:57] <kg_sl> hi phoenix_firebrd
[14:58] <Peace-> anyone knows ho to get  this ? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-ubuntu2
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: hi
[14:59] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: hei
[14:59] <kg_sl> Peace-: right click on the dolphin tool bar and go to configure tool bars
[15:00] <Peace-> kg_sl: ok but i can't put them on the right
[15:00] <Peace-> no way
[15:02] <kg_sl> does drag and drop of icons works..?
[15:02] <kg_sl> do it while u are configuring tool bars
[15:02] <Peace-> kg_sl:  can you do it ? like in the screenshot?
[15:03] <Peace-> kg_sl: wtf it works
[15:03] <Peace-> damn it
[15:03] <kg_sl> yeap.. looks like I can do it..
[15:03] <kg_sl> did it worked?
[15:03] <Peace-> yep
[15:03] <kg_sl> hehe ok
[15:04] <Peace-> kg_sl: it's a strnage way to do it
[15:05] <kg_sl> yeah.. first I thought.. he might have put some space between it.. empty area.. kinda thing.. but drag and drop is the way to do it.. KDE rocks..
[15:10] <Peace-> kg_sl: it doesn't work
[15:10] <Peace-> kg_sl: you can do it right but when you close dolphin you get the old config
[15:10] <kg_sl> really.. ?
[15:10] <kg_sl> wait till I check it myself..
[15:11] <kg_sl> aww.. pain.. hehe
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: i found a way to do it, but its not the proper way, because of the absence  spacer tool item.
[15:17] <kg_sl> I think we have to untick 'lock toolbar positions'
[15:17] <Peace-> let me check
[15:18] <kg_sl> yeap.. it works..
[15:18] <kg_sl> hehe
[15:18] <kg_sl> kinda foolish.. not to notice it..
[15:18] <Peace-> nope
[15:18] <Peace-> here doesn't work
[15:18] <kg_sl> works for me.. need a screen shot ;)
[15:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: http://imagebin.org/212125
[15:19] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: ok close and reopen dolphin
[15:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: nothing happened, remains the same
[15:20] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: kde  version ?
[15:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: i have done it in a different method
[15:20] <Peace-> how
[15:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: 4.8.2
[15:21] <Peace-> kg_sl: here i have phoenix_firebrd http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-el4114
[15:21] <Peace-> but after
[15:22] <Peace-> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ui4114
[15:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: how did you do that?
[15:22] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: right click on tool bar  and then i moved the buttons
[15:23] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: let me try
[15:23] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: => http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-wq4114
[15:24] <kg_sl> hmm looks like my method is bad..
[15:24] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: oh, ok, going to tryu that
[15:24] <kg_sl> when we open a new dolphin window... the changes are gone..
[15:25] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: how did you do that ?
[15:27] <Peace-> ok i have to go but i will leave pc here answer me so i will read after
[15:28] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: instead of a spacer tool item i used an item called "editable location" tool item and edited its text with space characters. the disadvantage is the prefix and suffix charectors should be a visible one, i used a colon and a dot
[15:37] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: got it but it is very very nerd way
[15:37] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ya, its a bug in dolphin, we should file one
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: either dolphin should retain the location of the tool items or it should offer a spacer item
[16:13] <kami84gr> I might sound silly but I just wanted to thank the Kubuntu team for bringing me back to the *buntu family after 6 years ...I've been through Debian, Fedora and Arch but now thanks to the 12.04 release it is Kubuntu all the way!
[16:39] <ASL> Can anyone give me some assisstance with a ubuntu 12.04 problem?
[16:39] <DarthFrog> !question | ASL
[16:40] <ASL> Sorry.. New here. Im having this problem where when i restart ubuntu it just stays on a black screen and doesnt boot, as soon i restart with the ubuntu CD it boots right up and i can login and use it.
[16:40] <ASL> I can also suspend and power right back up but as soon as i shutdown/restart it just sits
[16:45] <BluesKaj> strange , I've relabled the external drive with the parition manager , but the UUID string stiil appears on the icon , rather than the label name. It seems like I'm stuck in cycle ...all tutorials describe the same procedure for renaming the UUID as a label, which isn't working , any ideas?
[17:56] <xixor> Yo, how does one change the audio playback device in kde/kubuntu?  Cheers
[18:00] <phoenix_firebrd> xixor: system settings-> multimedia->phonon->audio hardware tab
[18:02] <xixor> phoenix_firebrd: ok, thanks
[18:02] <phoenix_firebrd> xixor: yw
[18:04] <xixor> hm... so, I have a M-Audio Fast Track USB audio device that I am trying to use.  It shows up in kinfocenter, and in the Phonon system settings, as "M-Audio Fast Track Analog Stereo", but when I "Test" the play back, no sound
[18:05] <xixor> but when I do the speaker placement test, "Front Right", "Front Left", it works
[18:05] <xixor> anyone know what is up?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> xixor, in the terminal , aplay -l
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: hi
[18:06] <xixor> BluesKaj: Yeah, it shows the device: card 2: Track [Fast Track], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[18:07] <BluesKaj> hi phoenix_firebrd
[18:08] <xixor> BluesKaj: It's very strange.  In the "Audio Hardware Setup", testing the speaker location sounding, playing the front left/front right sound, it works
[18:09] <xixor> BluesKaj: But in the "Device Preference" tab, playing the Test sound, nothing plays, and I can't get it to output sound with any program
[18:11] <BluesKaj> xixor, ok , do you have pulseaudio installed
[18:11] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> xixor, also pastebin the output from , lsmod | grep snd
[18:13] <xixor> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CjWXPpN0
[18:14] <xixor> BluesKaj: yes, pulseaudio is installed... gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio, libpulse-mainloop-glib0, libpulse0, libpulsedsp, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-module-x11, pulseaudio-utils, vlc-plugin-pulse, a few others
[18:15] <BluesKaj> xixor, install pavucontrol as well
[18:17] <xixor> ok, installing now
[18:17] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[18:17] <BluesKaj> then turn those controls up to the max
[18:18] <xixor> hm... in alsamixer, the device only has a PCM, nothing else
[18:18] <BluesKaj> unmuted= 00 in the box at the bottom the ctrl slders
[18:19] <xixor> so does that mean the device can only play uncompressed audio I wonder?
[18:20] <xixor> ah, apparently I need to reboot for pavucontrol, brb
[18:20] <BluesKaj> ok xixor I'm not real familair with usb audio cards , I also have a m-audio card, and I also have only pcm ctrl , because I have no speakers connected to it
[18:21] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: if i remember correctly, you dont like pulseaudio
[18:23] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, no I don't , but I have to use it for webaudio content
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya, i remeber you saying that, you said there will be a solution soon
[18:24] <BluesKaj> ok xixor I'm not real familair with usb audio cards , I also have a m-audio card, and I also have only pcm ctrl , because I have no speakers connected to it , or any breakout cables . It feeds my audioamp .is your setup similar?
[18:24] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya right about the html5/webm thing
[18:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: are you asking me?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> alsa and flash don't link on websites , phoenix_firebrd
[18:25] <xixor> BluesKaj: I have built in motherboard audio, which works fine, it just "crackles" when the volume changes.  I also have an M-Audio USB device, one of their lower end models, the FastTrack USB
[18:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[18:26] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, no , I was asking xixor
[18:26] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ok
[18:27] <BluesKaj> xixor, does the usb audio device connect to a speaker system or an amp or both ?
[18:27] <xixor> BluesKaj: It is directly connected to some powered speakers
[18:29] <xixor> BluesKaj: I can get sound out of them on this device... in the "Audio Hardware setup", I can hear the front left/front right voice, and in pavucontrol, when I change the slider on the device, I can hear the little "Blip" sound when you move past 100%, but that is all, I can't get the other test sounds to work, or audio apps to play to the device
[18:30] <xixor> BluesKaj: I notice that when I run alsamixer, the USB deivce isn't the default, but the mobo soundcard is the default
[18:31] <xixor> BluesKaj: I use F6 to select the sound card, and I see that the PCM is unmuted on the M-audio card
[18:33] <BluesKaj> xixor, ok , unless you want to use the mobo soundcard , best to would disable it in the bios , then if possible enable the usb soundcard
[18:33] <xixor> BluesKaj: when I cat /proc/asound/cards, It shows the M-audio card as the last card, http://pastebin.com/GRFPwXx5
[18:35] <BluesKaj> xixor, sudo modprobe snd_usb_audio
[18:36] <xixor> BluesKaj: So, I downloaded and installed Audacity, and if I specifically select the Fast Track USB Audio Device, I can play a file and hear the sound
[18:38] <BluesKaj> xixor, you can try editing the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with root permissions, add this line to bottom,  options snd-usb-audio index=0, then make any other snd modules =-2
[18:40] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol also can direct the sound for you if you set it up to use the usb device
[18:41] <xixor> what do you mean direct the sound?
[18:41] <u19809> HI all, what do I need to compile a 32bit qt 4.8.1 app under precise pangolin 64bit ?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> from alsa to all installed media , players xixor
[18:43] <xixor> BluesKaj: This is interesting... I have pavucontrol opened, and it has like a VU slider below the audio device whenever it receives a signal.  In the phonon control module, if I play the "front left"/"front right" sounds, I can see that VU meter move, and I can hear the audio.  When I play the "Test" sound, I can see the meter move, but there is no audio being played
[18:43] <BluesKaj> u19809, build-essential , and perhaps cmake
[18:44] <u19809> Hmm ... the problem is not the build chain but th qt32 bit libraries  They seem to be in a different location and I do not know what the proper packages to install are
[18:44] <BluesKaj> xixor, what default device do you have chosen in phonon device preferences?
[18:45] <xixor> BluesKaj: I have the Fast Track setup as default.. by default, I mean I have "prefered" it over the other devices, and moved it to the top of the list as the device for music and video
[18:45] <BluesKaj> u19809, if you have arch support installed , 32 bit should compile
[18:45] <xixor> BluesKaj: ahhh, I got it instead of being on the Music/Video/Games subselection, I had to change it under Audio Playback
[18:46] <BluesKaj> xixor, have you tried editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with root permissions , as I suggested above ..then you may have to reboot
[18:48] <u19809> Blueskaj : that is the problem ... I have upgraded from oneric to precise ... what is this 'arch support" ? ia32-libs ? that is installed but it only points to transistional packages ..
[18:49] <xixor> BluesKaj: so now, I can get audio out of VLC, but not amarok
[18:49] <xixor> fun stuff
[18:49] <BluesKaj> u19809, it's like ia32libs , but my understanding is it's a better system
[18:50] <BluesKaj> xixor, Iasked you a questio above about alsa-base.conf .. did you see it ?
[18:50] <xixor> BluesKaj: yes, I have edited that file, but haven't rebooted yet
[18:50] <BluesKaj> ok , time to reboot xix
[18:50] <BluesKaj> xixor,
[18:50] <xixor> alright
[18:51] <BluesKaj> u19809, archsupport should be default in precise , you can check for yourself
[18:53] <u19809> Blueskaj : how can I check for this ? Packages ? Files ?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> u19809, hang on , i don't see it , unless it's renamed
[18:54] <xixor> BluesKaj: Hm... after rebooting, the M-Audio device doesn't show up
[19:01] <BluesKaj> xixor, lspci -nn | grep -i audio
[19:02] <xixor> BluesKaj: yeah, it's no longer listed
[19:02] <BluesKaj> u19809, look for multiarch in your package manager
[19:03] <BluesKaj> what is listed xixor ?
[19:03] <xixor> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/vm6iW6Zd
[19:03] <xixor> BluesKaj: it shows my motherboards audio device, and apparently my video card has an HDMI audio device or something
[19:04] <BluesKaj> xixor, yes , did you disable the onboard audio in your bios ?
[19:05] <xixor> BluesKaj: nope
[19:05] <u19809> Blueskaj : i do have ia32-libs-multiarch:386 installed but a dpkg -L on reveals no libraries just some docs
[19:05]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...xixor , that's probly why your usb isn't showing
[19:05] <u19809> I also have mulitarch-support installed but that seems a transistional package
[19:07] <phoenix_firebrd> u19809: are you using qt sdk?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> u19809, yes I suppose it will remain so 'til there are no more 32 bit aps
[19:08] <u19809> on oneric I used getlibs to download appropriate libraries ... so no I use the standard qt packages ... I think
[19:10] <BluesKaj> u19809, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec
[19:16] <u19809> blueskay ... that clarifies things  I do have these subfolders but the link paths in the compile step refer to the old /usr/lib32 ...
[19:16] <u19809> I need to find out why ... thanx
[19:16] <genii-around> Perhaps someone may know offhand: Is there a way to prevent kdm from blanking the screen before it shows the background which has been set in it's theme? ...I have same background now set for grub, plymouth,kdm, ksplash, and main desktop. I'd like it to appear continuously from grub menu until desktop is loaded.
[19:18] <phoenix_firebrd> u19809: search for "universal binaries" topic in qt documentation
[19:20] <tsimpson> universal binaries are a feature of Mac OSX
[19:22] <phoenix_firebrd> tsimpson: does putting "CONFIG+= x86" in the .pro file create a x86 exe?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> genii-around, install grub2-kde-config-grub2 , then you can configure grub appearence in a handy gui, with better options . It installs in system settings>startup and shutdown by default
[19:23] <BluesKaj> oops genii-around , kde-config-grub2
[19:24] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Does it eliminate the screen refresh which seems to happen when kdm loads?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, genii-around , no i don't so :(
[19:25] <BluesKaj> think
[19:27] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Right now I have a background which gets loaded during grub... it appears continuously until kdm starts... screen then blanks 3-6 seconds until the same backgound reloads. Which after login stays again until desktop is up. So it sort of looks like a hiccup
[19:28] <phoenix_firebrd> tsimpson: how to find the arch of a biniary?
[19:28] <genii-around> file binaryname
[19:31] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: "ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV)" in this what does x86-64 mean?
[19:32] <Wizard> Hi!
[19:35] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: sorry that was a dumb question
[19:36] <Wizard> phoenix_firebrd: Some people say there are no stupid question, there are only stupid answers. :P
[19:36] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: :)
[20:12]  * Wizard yawns.
[20:13] <Wizard> Does anybody know if I can offer kubuntu to my customers?
[20:13] <Wizard> I mean, install it for cash and so?
[20:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: i think you cannot sell kubuntu
[20:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: you can charge for the service , but not for the distro
[20:16] <Wizard> And if the service is "to burn it on CD"? :>
[20:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: you can charge what ever for the burning thats upto you, but anyway you cannot charge for the distro. You better read the license agreement
[20:18] <Wizard> I have to :)
[20:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: you have to what?
[20:19] <Wizard> Read the license.
[20:19] <phoenix_firebrd> Wizard: ya
[20:22] <Wizard> apt-cache search battle
[20:22] <Wizard> Oops.
[20:23] <IdleOne> permission denied
[20:23] <Wizard> :S
[20:24] <Wizard> Sorry, I forgot to enable focus follow mouse.
[22:02] <JuanK> Hi all !!!!
[22:07] <roscoe> Hello, everyone. I'm new to ubuntu and kde. I'm trying to install clamav and kde won't recognize my sudo password. Anyon have any advice for me?
[22:18] <BluesKaj> roscoe, any reason other than you're connected to windows pcs to install clamav?
[22:20] <roscoe> yes, I have windo$ machines on network
[22:21] <roscoe> Mainly concerned about KDE not recognizing sudo passwd
[22:30] <Walex> roscoe: the 'sudo' password is your own account password.
[22:30] <Walex> roscoe: many people configure 'sudo' to request again the user's own password before enabling it for a time. For the case when a 'sudo' user account has been hacked.
[22:31] <roscoe> yup. however, KDE won't recognize it. Eviedntly, KDE is looking for the user to be root?
[22:36] <Walex> roscoe: no, 'sudo' specifically allows a non-'root' user to issue 'root' commands.
[22:37] <Walex> roscoe: if 'sudo' cannot match the password you type in with your password there can be one of several issues.
[22:37] <Walex> roscoe: just to make one check, try to 'su - $USER' to see if 'su' can do it.
[22:45] <roscoe> Walex: 'su - $user) returns su: authentication failure
[22:48] <Walex> roscoe: that's not very good news at all.
[22:48] <Walex> roscoe: unless you typed it literally as you typed it here.
[22:49] <Walex> roscoe: try again with 'su - ...' with your username in lieu of the ellipsis (without the single quotes)
[22:49] <Walex> roscoe: the environment variable '$USER' has the value of your current login name, but '$user' is not a standard one
[22:51] <roscoe> Walex: Understood $USER to be variable. I typed: 'su - g-001'. I am finding info that I may need to add user to the wheelgroup to have KDE recognise current user (g-001) as having su priviledges?
[22:51] <u19809> hi all, I cannot find a 32-bit version of the libQtUiTools.a library anymore ... where could I find this ?
[23:57] <Guest70327> hi
[23:58] <Guest70327> anybody from pl??