[00:49] <pdtpatrick> Question - would someone please explain/help me with .deb packaging. I'm using deb helper and i've gone through the PackagingGuide.pdf -- and i still cannot understand how you move files around. For instance, if i want the .deb file when installed to have files in /etc/ and then /home/user/.filename  .. where/how do i do that ?  would this be the dh_installdeb helper script ?
[00:52] <mirabilos> you can't write files into users' homes
[02:08] <cjwatson> ScottK: I'd appreciate your thoughts on the kdelibs5-dev and pykde4 bugs I just filed in Debian for Python 3 support (#672552 and #672553, mainly the latter).  I'd love to get that into Ubuntu soon so that I can upload a Python 3 version of ubiquity.
[02:09] <cjwatson> When you get a chance, obviously.
[03:05] <nixternal> infinity: hey, one last problem with live-build. it builds the binary for me (binary/casper), however when i use that to create an ISO, and boot, i get that 'unable to open '/dev/zram0''...any pointers will be great
[03:05] <nixternal> also tried out lp.net/offspring, but that is a mess & a half, and the ubuntu-cdimage stuff seems to be private to ~canonical only :/
[03:09] <cody-somerville> nixternal, What version of live-build are you using and is your config/image available anywhere?
[03:09] <cody-somerville> nixternal, And what problems did you have with Offspring?
[03:09] <nixternal> 3.0~a24-1ubuntu32
[03:10] <nixternal> i can't get offspring to build. i have been getting a crash with offspring-master
[03:10] <nixternal> if i am correct, i need master, web, & slave. i have those 3 on the same machine
[03:11] <cody-somerville> nixternal, There's an API incompatibility with python2.7 in trunk at the moment.
[03:11] <nixternal> start slave first, then master, followed by web. at first i wasn't getting errors with master, then after a restart I was getting an IOError in regards to xml-rpc
[03:11] <nixternal> cody-somerville: right, i have installed 2.6 on my server
[03:12] <nixternal> though, damn, i didn't check if virtualenv was using 2.6
[03:13] <nixternal> for my slave/lexbuilder the status was always UNKNOWN
[03:13] <nixternal> if i could get offspring working, that would be the most perfect thing for my client. that would remove me from the equation once it is setup
[03:14] <cody-somerville> That means the master probably hasn't been successful in running.
[03:14] <cody-somerville> nixternal, Neat. I'd be happy to help you. If you could file a bug with the traceback/log, I'd be happy to look into/fix issue for you.
[03:15] <nixternal> rock on bro, I will do that. i will reinstall everything and start from scratch on my server and make sure virtualenv is using 2.6
[03:15] <nixternal> it is fine for slave & master to be the same machine right?
[03:15] <nixternal> if so, what the proper start up sequence.... slave, master, then web? or master, slave, then web? or....
[03:16] <cody-somerville> nixternal, That's fine, yes. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it though since a rogue build could cause both services to be affected (say due to doing fork bomb or something) which is especially problematic if you have a farm of builders.
[03:16] <cody-somerville> nixternal, You can start them in any sequence.
[03:16] <nixternal> ok
[03:16] <nixternal> thanks!
[03:17] <nixternal> i was going to attack you anyways for offspring as I saw your name all over it :p
[03:17] <nixternal> thanks to Daviey though for linking me to it last night
[03:17] <cody-somerville> nixternal, the load induced by a build will most certainly affect apache2 + postgresql so hosting web on same machine might be problematic fyi
[03:18] <nixternal> so you are saying it is best to have slave running on other systems? so if for starters I have i386 & amd64, they should each be on a separate machine. web & master ok to be together on the same machine though?
[03:19] <cody-somerville> nixternal, Cool. There is a mailing list FYI. It's very low traffic currently but it'll be good for keeping up to date if there are major changes we plan to introduce / place to discuss dev + support issues.
[03:19] <nixternal> ok, i will join that so i can follow along. if this works out for me, i am building my own farm and selling access to clients then :)
[03:21] <cody-somerville> nixternal, web + master should be fine to be on same machine yes load wise. However, in our setup we have master on it's own machine where we also host the NFS server for storing the results - this is because master obviously requires access to slaves and we don't want our assets or slaves to be compromised so we keep them tightly firewalled and thus if web host gets compromised in some fashion it isn't as big of a deal.
[03:22] <cody-somerville> as for i386 & amd64, you can just have single amd64 host and it can build both those arches
[03:22] <nixternal> yeah, but for load i thought about separating them
[03:23] <nixternal> oh, my live-build config, let me paste that if you are still interested in looking at it
[03:23] <cody-somerville> sure thing. if you can put image somewhere too that would be even better and I'll try it out myself to see whats wrong.
[03:24] <cody-somerville> nixternal, re: load, in that case I would just have two machines both amd64 - unless you specifically want to have i386 only machine for cost or queueing priority purposes.
[03:24]  * nixternal did 'sudo lb clean' :)
[03:24] <nixternal> right
[03:24] <cody-somerville> if you run into problems, I recommend 'sudo lb clean --purge'
[03:24] <nixternal> what does purge do?
[03:24] <nixternal> i always remove cache just to be safe
[03:25] <cody-somerville> purge removes everything, including all caches. The config directory is kept.
[03:25] <nixternal> ahh
[03:27] <nixternal> cody-somerville: http://paste.ubuntu.com/982823/  my config
[03:27] <nixternal> foobar is my fake project name, so i don't give my client info away in public :)
[03:29] <cody-somerville> ah. you use auto/config (I'm not a personal fan of the feature, lol)
[03:29] <nixternal> should my config have 'noauto' added to the lb config?
[03:29] <nixternal> or, is there a config out there i can use as an example
[03:30] <nixternal> i think i snooped all of linaro & oem services for one, as well as cjwatson's 3 million bzr repos :)
[03:31] <cody-somerville> I don't have one for lb 3.x. This is fine. I'll do a build with this and see what pops out.
[03:31] <nixternal> well, it won't work with foobar, so i will message you
[04:59] <ScottK> cjwatson: I saw the Debian bugs.  I think its great you got it sorted.  yofel_ is ~close to uploading KDE SC 4.8.3 to precise, so I think he should include your changes.
[04:59] <ScottK> I'd discuss it with him.
[06:36] <vibhav> Pornview looks dead upstream, and is very crash prone, should I file a request to get it removed?
[06:49] <vibhav> Also, can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meep/+bug/990137 be nominated for oneiric?
[08:52] <larsdues1ng>  /j #perl
[08:52] <larsdues1ng> ups :) sorry
[11:24] <larsduesing> Is ubuntu having any problems with the line "Architecture: linux-any kfreebsd-any" in debian/control ?
[11:25] <larsduesing> (upstream debian change from "Archtitecture: any")
[11:25] <larsduesing> arghs Architecture I meant :)
[11:26] <larsduesing> and this line "Depends: iputils-ping [!kfreebsd-i386 !kfreebsd-amd64]
[11:55] <chrysn> are there any ways to debug what's happening on ubuntu build servers?
[11:56] <chrysn> i'm getting errors in its build logs, but not on my own precise building vm
[14:45] <JonEdney> o/
[15:55] <melodie> hi
[15:55] <JonEdney> o/ melodie
[15:55] <melodie> hi JonEdney !
[15:59] <melodie> I would like to get feedback for a package having for name openbox-menu. It is useful when using Openbox as only environment and can also be used while having Openbox in a DM environment
[16:00] <melodie> anyone interested ?
[16:10] <Bluefoxicy> things to be aware of:  mount NOTHING anywhere except under /home
[16:11]  * Bluefoxicy mounted a drive with disk images on it under /var/vm/ and it was summarily erased even though there's no such folder and he didn't instruct it to format...
[16:11] <Bluefoxicy> The installer warns you that if there are system files in that path it'll erase them
[16:11] <Bluefoxicy> and of course just erases the whole thing >:|
[16:14] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[23:15] <Bluefoxicy> Why not make locales for every application in every language, but store them in different repos?
[23:16] <Bluefoxicy> main security universe multiverse locale-en locale-de locale-es locale-jp ...
[23:16] <Bluefoxicy> and teach dpkg to depend conditionally
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> DEPENDS: debian-locale-de ? gnome-terminal-locale-de
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> DEPENDS: debian-locale-ja ? gnome-terminal-locale-ja
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> etc
[23:21]  * Bluefoxicy watches the language pack installer bring in firefox-locale-ja when he doesn't have firefox anything installed
[23:28] <melodie> gn