[12:44] <spow> hi, is fluidsynth support appropriate here ?
[12:51] <mighty_aboba> did somebody try to install xfce4.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.04?
[14:26] <len-dt> mighty_aboba, I suspect not. More likely to happen with xubuntu first
[14:27] <len-dt> xubuntu is xfce on purpose. studio uses some but not all.
[14:28] <len-dt> spow, I don't know that much about fluidsynth
[14:29] <len-dt> spow, I have used qsynth which is a fluidsynth GUI.
[14:40] <spow> len-dt: is it possible to decrease the sound of cords ?
[14:40] <spow> because it really 'eats' on regular notes
[14:59] <len-dt> spow, how are you driving the synth?
[14:59] <len-dt> are you using a kb or sequencer
[15:03] <spow> len-dt: I use jackd/fluidsynth/aconnect
[15:04] <len-dt> spow, ok, are you playing a keyboard that plays fluidsynth?
[15:04] <spow> probably
[15:05] <spow> i'm new to this, it works but not perfect
[15:05] <spow> the cords are too loud
[15:05] <len-dt> spow, does that keyboard seem to make louder sound when you hit the keys harder and softer if you gently push the keys down?
[15:05] <spow> somewhat yes
[15:06] <len-dt> So the keboard does send both noteon and touch information then.
[15:07] <spow> can I compensate this ?
[15:07] <len-dt> does your keyboard allow you to split the output to two midi channels.
[15:08] <spow> imma check
[15:08] <len-dt> spow, The obvious thing is to play chords gently and hit the melody notes harder, but it sounds like the difference is not enough for that to work.
[15:09] <spow> well, i'm trying to do that, but it's pretty hard (not to exert the same force), plus there's this sort of middle cap
[15:09] <len-dt> I'm not  keyboard player myself... I have one and fool around on it, but I am not a player.
[15:09] <spow> where +-30% force changes nothing
[15:10] <spow> i'm playing my first lesson anyways, you certainly know more than I do
[15:10] <len-dt> The reason I am thinking to split the keyboard is that you could feed two synth channels and turn one down as compared to the other.
[15:11] <spow> is that supposed to be in the datasheet ? or in aconnect ?
[15:11] <len-dt> I understand the midi standard (at least as it was first released) reasonably well.
[15:11] <len-dt> The two places I can think that we could split is either in the keyboard itself or in the synth.
[15:12] <len-dt> samplers do this well, but samplers are not that great for general playing or learning on.
[15:13] <spow> I have no idea what these things are
[15:13] <spow> thought jacks was onee though
[15:13] <spow> jackd*
[15:18] <len-dt> spow, looking at the settings for fluidsynth, I can't find anything that will allow me to set a range of midi notes it looks at.
[15:19] <spow> I've looked at the help pages and didn't find anything either, though I don't understand all the words there
[15:19] <len-dt> aoleous does, but it is pipe organ only.
[15:19] <spow> well, guess I've got to learn to be gentle with the left hand ;)
[15:19] <len-dt> What model of keyboard are you using?
[15:20] <spow> keystation 61 es
[15:20] <spow> stole it from my brother !
[15:20] <len-dt> spow, I am sure he didn't need it anyway
[15:21] <spow> he sort of does, he composes stuff so he takes it back when needed
[15:21] <spow> but he can't help me, he's using windows ...
[15:22] <len-dt> Ok I will take a quick look at the manual.
[15:23] <spow> it's ok, as said I have to play gentle with the left hand. i'll try and access a piano tonight to record how it feels
[15:23] <spow> b/c I didn't pay attention to the force exerted until now
[15:27] <len-dt> I looked in the manual and your keyboard doesn't allow sending different parts of the keyboard to different midi ports... sorry spow
[15:27] <spow> ah
[15:28] <spow> well, thganks for looking
[15:28] <spow> when I move in in 5 months I'll just get a piano :p
[15:28] <len-dt> I am thinking though that either PD or qtraktor might
[15:28] <spow> PureData ?
[15:29] <len-dt> Ya, I don't know PD at all, but one of the people I was talking to knows it a lot better.
[15:29] <spow> I've used that last year
[15:29] <spow> could give it a try
[15:29] <spow> though I'd like to play more than setup things haha
[15:30] <spow> well, gotta go, thanks for looking up the info
[15:30] <len-dt> In the mean time, I will look for an application that messes midi signals up as they go through and see if we can include it in ubuntustudio.
[15:30] <len-dt> no prob.
[15:31] <spow> well, I also *could* take a peek at fluidsynth's source code
[15:31] <spow> but that's time I won't be playing soo ....
[15:31] <spow> thanks for the info, bb
[15:31] <len-dt> spow, If there is not somethign that does that now there needs to be.
[15:32] <len-dt> I might even learn jack.alsa well enough to do myself.