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gryhi! why does xubuntu have a kvirc 4.1.1 in repos if latest stable is 4.0.4?00:35
GridCubedunno, its just there00:36
GridCubegry, i think that kvirc is qt based?00:37
GridCubelike a kde thing?00:37
gryyes00:37
GridCubethen its probably some kubuntu decission00:37
GridCubewe share the same repos00:37
grywill ask them; thank you00:41
aguitelGridCube, what the correct way to install libreoffice in xubuntu?00:43
GridCubesudo apt-get install libreoffice00:43
GridCubethat did it for me00:43
aguitelonly this?00:43
aguitelok00:44
GridCubeyou can search it on USC, or Synaptic if you want00:44
aguitelok00:44
GridCubeaguitel, you can update before like00:44
GridCubesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice00:44
aguitelyes i know00:44
aguiteli did the update00:44
GridCube:)00:45
Unit193https://launchpad.net/kvirc That looks a bit messed up.00:46
riddleboxhello, I read that xfce does window tiling but I cannot find out how to do it or set it so that it does it?01:57
BoogerheadHello! I'm trying to get the custom action in the file manager working, to rotate a JPG 90 degrees. I've tried; it doesn't work. Any idea where to start diagnosing what went wrong?01:59
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szerzeteshi!06:45
szerzetesI have an Acer Aspire 5110 notbook, I installed an Xubuntu 12.04, my touchpad is works fine, but i want to use tap zone06:46
szerzeteswhere or how can is set it?06:46
baizonszerzetes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187505706:48
whitmanI've just replaced my graphics card (both nvidia) and now after I enter my login details X seems to try to start but then I get bumped back to the login screen. Suggestions?07:27
baizonwhitman: check messages07:28
baizonwhitman: are you using the proprietary drivers07:29
baizon?07:29
whitmanI am07:29
baizonthen try to uninstall them07:29
baizonand install again07:29
whitmanOk, I'll try it once apt has finished.07:31
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szerzetesbaizon, big thanx! :)07:41
baizonnp07:42
whitmanI can't see any errors in Xorg.log or dmesg.07:47
baizonwhitman: so07:52
baizonhave you uninstalld the drivers?07:53
whitmanHmm, I've just rebooted (a few times) without changing anything and it's fine now.07:55
baizonwhitman: so did you made apt-get upgrade?07:58
baizonthat could fix the problem too :P07:58
whitmanIt could, but I only saw libreoffice updates :)07:58
whitmanEither way, it's working so I'm happy.07:59
metalsHi08:08
metalswhere can I change the system sound settings?08:08
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gordonjcpMyrtti: morning08:35
gordonjcpis gmusicbrowser normally slow to start up?08:35
Myrttigordonjcp: moin08:36
gordonjcpoh, I give up08:36
gordonjcpan hour later and it still hasn't actually given me the option to play any musci08:36
gordonjcp*music08:36
xubuntu763Hi Xubunters! :-)08:49
aquixhello :)08:49
xubuntu763What are your impressions on the new Xubuntu 12.0408:50
xubuntu763?08:50
aquixI like it a lot. Runs pretty stable and no real bugs I have detected.08:51
gordonjcpcrap, so far08:53
* baizon xubuntu 12.04 + xfce 4.1008:53
gordonjcp"papercutty"08:53
baizonloving it :)08:53
gordonjcpslow, crashy, tiny fonts, no working media player08:53
baizongordonjcp: so your doing something wrong08:54
gordonjcpbaizon: it's a stock install08:54
aquixgordonjcp there are a million media players in the repos08:54
gordonjcpaquix: yes, but the one shipped in xubuntu doesn't work08:54
aquixsystem fonts can be changed, I recommend droid sans, looks good.08:55
gordonjcp*I* know there are dozens of media players, less experienced users may not08:55
aquixslow and crashy I don't see.08:55
baizongordonjcp: im using smplayer for videos and clementine for music08:55
gordonjcpit's using droid sans by default, the fonts are tiny and hard to read08:55
gordonjcpfirefox is hellish08:55
aquixinstalling and removing programs is the first thing one learns, new users are not the problem08:55
aquixfirefox can be tricky on all machines no matter what OS08:56
gordonjcpaquix: right, but my point is more that out of the box it can't really play audio files08:56
baizonindeed08:56
gordonjcpit's been chuntering away for a couple of hours now scanning my mp3s and oggs08:56
gordonjcpmaybe 1000 albums or so08:57
aquixI have a long apt-get install I run on new installs, never use stock install really.08:57
aquixwht music player gordonjcp ?08:57
gordonjcpgmusicbrowser, which is what comes packaged with xubuntu08:57
aquixyeah, I don't like that.08:58
aquixI use clementine. It's buggy and Qt but I still like it :)08:58
gordonjcpalso there's a strange bug that I trigger often but can't replicate where when I click on a window, it sees this is as a grab move08:58
arpad2hi08:58
gordonjcpso I end up dragging the window around08:58
aquixrhythmbox is also alright I guess08:59
arpad2I have bought a card reader, but I can't see that xubuntu reconises it08:59
baizonarpad2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonAccessCard09:00
gordonjcprhythmbox is crap09:00
baizonindeed09:01
baizoni love clementine :)09:01
aquix+109:01
gordonjcpI thought that when it was going to be included in 12.04, Canonical would get some people to fix it up a bit09:01
gordonjcpbut no09:01
gordonjcpthey've packaged up its reanimated corpse and stuck it in the default install09:01
gordonjcphere's a cracking bug in rhythmbox09:02
gordonjcpyou'll laugh when you hear this, it's hilarious09:02
aquixsoftware included discussions is a minefield.09:02
baizongordonjcp: xubuntu is a community version not canonical09:02
gordonjcpif it decides it can't play a file, like maybe it doesn't have a codec or something09:02
gordonjcpguess what it does09:02
gordonjcpdeletes the file09:02
baizonand canonical is making unity not all software that comes with ubuntu09:02
aquixgordonjcp really?09:02
gordonjcpbaizon: yes, but they have maintainers for their packages09:02
gordonjcpaquix: yup09:02
aquixsounds bad09:02
gordonjcpso spark up rhythmbox on a stock Ubuntu install without mp3 codecs, watch it blow away your library09:03
aquixlol, you'd think they fix that bug first09:03
aquixor, they probably have had some rants in their irc channel, I would guess09:04
aquixgordonjcp  your firefox, does it behave differently depending on the session?  (between reboots)09:09
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gordonjcpaquix: what, between unity and xfce?09:20
gordonjcphaven't tried09:20
aquixno09:21
aquixI have a laptop that I noticed on some boots firefox made the fan go crazy, and some it was silents as a sleeping kitten.   but that went away09:22
aquixunity? no tanks09:22
gordonjcpoh, okay09:22
gordonjcpweird09:22
gordonjcpI quite like unity09:22
aquixgood for you :)09:23
gordonjcpit's just not very good on small screens09:23
aquixit doesn't scale well?09:23
aquixabout firefox, lovinglinux at ubuntuforums is a firefox expert and have some very usefull tutorials here: http://webgapps.org/groups/firefox/docs/09:24
xubuntu561hi09:42
xubuntu561alguien que hable español que me pueda ayudar, por favor?09:43
Unit193!es09:43
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.09:43
xubuntu561thanks09:44
baizon!pl09:49
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.09:49
aquixhmmm09:51
aquix!no09:51
ubottuHvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk!09:51
aquixcool bot feature09:51
baizon:)09:53
xubuntu307hi all, which xfce version is used in xubuntu 12.04?12:34
babble4.812:35
babblethere's a 4.10 ppa or I have built packages for 64-bit12:36
xubuntu307thanks alot! :-)12:36
babblethe ppa from the xubuntu dev team is here:12:37
babblehttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.1012:37
babblemy builds are here:12:38
babblehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/12:38
xubuntu307thank you very much - i was concerned that 4.10 (and its features) are not included in the current xubuntu release but with the ppa in mind i will give xubuntu a try. :-)12:43
babbleit's not a huge change from 4.812:45
babblethe xfce folks go for incremental improvements rather than sweeping changes.12:45
babblethough things like a proper MIME editor in 4.10 are handy, I must say12:45
babblesigh.12:49
babbleambient aphex twin tracks and a McDonald's commercial really don't go together.12:49
babbleeek. wrong window.12:49
pornolabhi, could u plz tell me how to set the key-combination to switch between keyboard layouts? I have two layouts but dunno where to go to se the key-combination (xubuntu 12.04)12:50
babbleYou can use the keyboard layout switcher plugin for one thing.12:51
babbleGive me a moment and I'll dig through xfconf and see if there's a keyboard setting for it12:51
babbleit looks like they keyboard shortcut xfconf key only exists in 4.1012:52
pornolabok12:53
REK_007unless i disconnect my headphone from the front jack my speakers wont work which are connected to the rear IO panel jack... any solutions?14:03
babbleREK_007: have you tried switching the output device in PulseAudio Volume Control?14:19
REK_007yeah babble14:32
babbletry killing pulseaudio (alt-f2, then pulseaudio -k)14:33
babblethen make sure your output device (headphones or speakers) is where you want it14:33
REK_007how do i ensure that?14:33
REK_007i can tell it used to work fine on ubuntu 10.04 from which i upgraded .. if it helps14:34
cpuwolfwhy my xubuntu 12.4 takes so long time before splash screen shows up14:40
cpuwolfhi14:50
lucky86Does anyone know how to change the aspect ratio in 12.4 xfce?16:03
penreturnssystem setting rite?16:03
penreturns>appearance16:04
penreturnssory > Display16:04
aquixaspect ratio changes with the resolution16:04
lucky86under display i only have resolution and default monitor16:05
GridCubelucky86, install arandr16:06
GridCubelucky86, arandr is a xrandr front end16:06
lucky86I have a wide screen monitor and every thing gets streched16:06
GridCubeif you trype xrandr16:06
GridCubein a terminal it tells you all the available resolutions16:06
GridCubeif then you do xrandr -s numberxnumber16:06
GridCubethen you set that resolution, arandr helps you there16:07
penreturnsr u install it under vm>16:07
lucky86in snaptic?16:07
GridCubeoooo16:07
GridCubevirtual machine16:07
GridCubeinstall the virtual machine metapackage16:07
GridCubein any case, sudo apt-get install arandr16:08
X-Phipshey, i want to mount my Win-partition to xubuntu16:11
GridCubegood :)16:12
X-Phipsyes, :d i but i want to edit, read, etc all the files in win + xubuntu16:12
X-Phipsi have already command "sudo fdisk -l" in terminal16:13
X-Phipsresult16:13
X-Phips/dev/sda1              63    12579839     6289888+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)16:13
X-Phips/dev/sda2   *    12579840   312560639   149990400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT16:13
X-Phipsi think that the win is in FAT3216:14
X-Phipsis that right?16:14
penreturnsntfs16:14
penreturnssda216:14
X-Phipsok, sda1 is then xubuntu?16:14
aquixpastebin.com          the output from   sudo fdisk -l16:15
aquixsda2 have 3 partitions it looks like16:15
lucky86do  I understand that if i put in: xrandr -s 1360x768 it will invoke that resolution?16:15
lucky86sorry to inturrupt16:16
aquixcan't you find that resolution in    settings -> display?16:16
lucky86no16:16
aquixyou can't interupt on irc :)      5 conversations at the same time is normal16:16
lucky86Ahh your americans16:17
X-Phipshm, so what I have to do now, look for a file in /etc/fstab ?16:17
aquixamericans? whats with the language?16:18
lucky8610 americans = 5 conversations16:18
aquixX-Phips    nice guide here    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:19
aquixX-Phips  or ever better guide here:    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab16:19
X-Phipsthe psychocats :D16:20
X-Phips^16:20
X-Phips^^16:20
GridCube!fstab | X-Phips16:21
ubottuX-Phips: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:21
X-Phipsso, next step will be creating a mount point 1ẞ1ẞ16:23
X-Phips*!?!?16:23
GridCubeyes16:24
aquixmount point is just a folder where the drive will be mounted to16:24
GridCube>sudo mkdir /mount/point16:24
aquixsounds more special than it is16:24
X-Phipsmhm ^^16:24
X-Phipsso, sudo mkdir /windows16:25
X-Phipssays Psychocat16:25
X-Phipswhat i have to command now, sudo mkdir /mount/point or sudo mkdir /windows ?16:27
GridCubeX-Phips, /mount/point is just an example16:30
X-Phipsok, so sudo mkdir /windows (as the part. for mounting) /point16:31
GridCube:)16:32
GridCubeyes that would be your mointing point16:32
X-PhipsPsychocat says sth about editing the /etc/fstab -file16:33
X-PhipsIi haven't got this file in /etc/fstab.d16:34
aquixit's /etc/fstab16:34
X-Phipsah the folder16:34
aquixfile fstab in folder /etc16:35
X-Phipsfile fstab is in /etc yes, i have it16:35
X-Phipsand what should i command for the mount point, where i have to pay attention?16:38
GridCubeX-Phips, do this16:39
GridCubepress alt-f2 and write: gksu leafpad /etc/fstab16:40
GridCubethen add to the last like this:16:40
GridCube/dev/sda2   /windows    auto   auto  0  o16:40
GridCube/dev/sda2   /windows    auto   auto  0  016:40
GridCubethat last one16:40
GridCubeand then add a new empty line16:40
GridCubeand then save and close and reboot16:40
molgrummy sound stopped working, i can't hear anything from videos anymore16:42
X-Phipsso, i have to write "gksu leafpad /etc/fstab/dec/sda2   /windows   auto   auto   0   0"16:43
GridCubeno16:44
GridCubeno no no16:44
GridCubeno16:44
X-Phipsgrrrrr16:44
X-Phipsomg16:45
GridCubepress alt-f216:45
X-Phipsjep :)16:45
GridCubewrite: gksu leafpad /etc/fstab16:45
baizonmolgrum: are you using the proprietary drivers?16:45
GridCubeexecute that X-Phips16:45
molgrumbaizon, for wlan yes, for sound no, not that i know of at least16:45
baizonmolgrum: graphics card?16:46
GridCubemolgrum, check on jockey-gtk16:46
X-Phipsok mom16:46
GridCube:P ok X-Phips16:46
GridCubenot at the very bottom of that text file16:46
GridCubewrite this:16:46
GridCube/dev/sda2   /windows    auto   auto  0  016:46
X-Phipsmoom :D16:46
X-Phipsi'm command now this gksu ... thing ...16:47
GridCube:)16:47
molgrumbaizon, GridCube, i'm only using prop for wlan, graphics card is the foss driver16:47
GridCubeyou might need the propietaries for those then, maybe, did sound worked before?16:47
X-Phipssry, one question: the files in win, pics, docs, can they disappear ?16:48
molgrumGridCube, yes it worked before16:48
baizonX-Phips: when your hard drive is broken :D16:48
GridCubetry >sudo alsa force-reload16:48
aquixX-Phips no, worst thing that can happen is that the drive doesn't mount16:48
X-Phipshope not ;D16:48
GridCubeX-Phips, no they shouldent16:49
GridCubeX-Phips, did you add that line at the bottom of the text file?16:49
X-Phipsok, i have command now gksu leafpad /etc/fstab16:49
molgrumGridCube, didn't work16:49
GridCubemolgrum, what does alsamixer says?16:50
molgrumah, master is set to zero16:50
GridCube;)16:50
GridCubetheres your problem16:50
X-Phipsso, "fstab" show me:16:51
X-Phips# /etc/fstab: static file system information.16:51
X-Phips#16:51
X-Phips# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a16:51
X-Phips# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices16:51
X-Phips# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).16:51
X-Phips#16:51
X-Phips# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>16:51
X-Phipsproc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       016:51
martinphonehelp: can I use find /home/dexter/downloads/1 -name 'mp_*' -exec rm {} \ ; to remove all .gif files?16:51
GridCubeX-Phips,16:51
GridCubedont flood16:51
GridCubei know what it says16:51
molgrumGridCube, do i have to save the setting or does it do it automagically?16:51
martinphone-name '.gif'?16:52
GridCubeit should be automagicall16:52
X-PhipsCridCube: ok, and what now?16:52
GridCubeat the bottom of that text file16:53
GridCubeadd that line:16:53
GridCube/dev/sda2   /windows    auto   auto  0  016:53
GridCubeand press enter after that, to leave an empty line16:53
molgrumthanks for the help! bye16:53
X-Phipsok moment pls16:53
GridCube:) good luck molgrum16:53
X-Phipsok, command /dev/sda2   /windows    auto   auto  0  0 and press enter16:54
X-Phipsi have that now16:54
GridCubeX-Phips, just to be completely sure, you didnt write the "command" word, correct, just the line as ipasted it?16:55
X-Phipsyes, the line starts with: dev/...16:55
GridCube/dev16:55
GridCubeok16:55
GridCubethen save the file16:55
GridCubeand close that window16:55
GridCubenow open a terminal, and write: sudo mount /dev/sda216:56
GridCubeand execute that16:56
X-Phipsso, the slash before "dev" is directly under the slash before "host"16:56
X-Phipsok, saveing16:56
X-Phipsclosing16:56
X-Phipsterminal16:57
GridCubeyes, the / is VERY importan16:57
GridCube/ means thats the root directory16:57
X-Phipscommanding sudo mount /dec/sda216:57
GridCubedev16:57
X-Phipsmh, godd inform. ^^16:57
GridCubeyes16:57
X-Phipsdev ^^16:57
X-Phipsalways wrong :D16:57
GridCube:) no problem, we all had to learn at one point16:58
X-Phipsok, press enter?16:58
GridCubeyep16:58
X-PhipsMount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.16:58
X-PhipsThe volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which16:58
X-Phipscould be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.16:58
X-Phips???16:59
GridCubeok16:59
GridCubethat means that your folder is mounted on /media/something16:59
GridCubeor disk16:59
GridCubeyou have that disks icons on the desktop16:59
GridCubeif you open them the disks mount to /media/something17:00
aquixprobably automounted and shows up in thunar17:00
GridCubenow they wont anymore, they will automatically to /windows17:00
GridCubenext time you reboot17:00
aquixin terminal :      mount17:00
X-Phipsshould i have a file in /media ?17:01
GridCubeif you know where it is, nope17:01
GridCubeits easier to keep it in media because, everything mounts there17:02
GridCubebut not obligatory17:02
GridCubeif you do wish to mount it on /media you have to: sudo mkdir /media/windows17:02
X-Phipsi got to "file system" then to "media" and don't find there anything17:03
GridCubeand then change fstab again and change the part that says /windows and put /media/windows there17:03
X-Phipshm, ok, so first, command sudo mkdir /media/windows17:03
GridCubeX-Phips, on a terminal do this17:04
GridCubewrite: mount17:04
GridCubeand paste the output to a pastebin17:04
GridCube!pastebin | X-Phips17:04
ubottuX-Phips: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:04
X-Phipssecond, open file "fstab" and change /windows to /media/windows17:04
GridCubeyes, that should work, if you want to change the mountpoint for later17:04
X-Phipsok, open terminal ...17:05
X-Phipshm, after commanding sudo mkdir /media/windows, the terminal didn't say anything17:06
X-Phipsbut i have a folder in media17:06
GridCubeyep17:06
X-Phipsnamed "windows" :)17:06
GridCubethats what is should do17:06
X-Phipsok, then open fstab17:07
X-Phipsand change /windows to /media/windows17:08
X-Phipsok, then save17:08
X-Phipsclose17:08
X-Phipsand then ...17:08
GridCubeyes17:08
GridCubenothing17:08
GridCubereboot17:09
X-Phipsnot command sudo mount /dev....17:09
GridCubeits already mounted17:09
GridCubeit told you so17:09
GridCubeif you write: mount17:09
X-Phipsmh, ok17:09
GridCubeyou will see where stuff is mounted alredy17:09
X-Phipsso, restart, choose xubuntu17:09
GridCubethats why im asking you to pastebin theoutput that comes from executing mount17:10
GridCubeyou will see where stuff is17:10
X-Phipshm, i have to command in terminal "mount" !?!?17:11
X-Phipsfor seeing where stuff is mounted ?17:12
GridCubeyes17:12
X-Phipsok, mom17:12
GridCubeor df17:12
X-Phipshmm, pastebin ...17:12
GridCube!pastebin17:13
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:13
X-Phipshm, poster?17:13
X-Phipsa name ?17:13
GridCubeX-Phips, write whatever you want17:14
GridCubethis nick you are using now for example17:14
X-Phipsto late :p17:15
X-Phipshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/983924/17:15
GridCubeoooo youre using wubi17:15
X-Phipsyes, for install.17:16
GridCubethen, as you see the windows partition is on /host17:16
GridCubei don't think thats a good idea to change that17:16
GridCubei have no idea how wubi works17:16
GridCubeNO IDEA17:16
X-Phipsf***17:16
GridCubei would delete that line from /etc/fstab just to be sure17:16
X-Phipsmhm ^17:16
GridCubeand you windows partition in on /host17:17
GridCubeyou might add a shortcut to that on your lateral panels of thunar17:17
X-Phipshaha, there is that sh** :D17:19
X-Phipssry, can you say your sentence from 19:17:52 for an german again pls :)17:19
GridCubeX-Phips, open thunar, go to /17:20
GridCubethen drag the /host folder to the lateral panel17:20
X-Phipsthunar17:20
GridCubefile manager?17:20
GridCubefile browser?17:21
X-Phipsaah17:21
X-Phips:p17:21
GridCubeits called thunar17:21
X-Phipsah, so "file system", "Dateisystem" in german17:21
GridCubeyep, thats the root directory17:22
GridCubehttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-120512-142226.php17:23
X-Phips /host to which panel, this named like the user?17:23
X-PhipsPic: yep, thats "Dateisystem"17:24
GridCubesee that picture, all the blue folders name Documentos and such17:24
GridCubeand temp and stuff, those are shortcuts17:24
GridCubei just drag a folder from the other side to there and i can easily access those with a single clic17:24
X-Phipsok, but i have to find the folder for pics etc in /host17:26
GridCube:P well yes17:27
X-Phipsand drag this folder (s) to "Pictures" (Bilder), "Documents" (Dokumente) etc17:27
GridCubethose follow the standard windows structure tho17:27
GridCubeso :P i have no idea17:27
X-Phipshm, i can't find all the pics, some of them ...17:29
X-Phipsonly some of them ...17:29
GridCubeagain, don't know the microsoft files structure17:29
GridCubein XP it was clearer, but since them they hide a lot of folders on places i dont understand17:30
X-Phipsööhm, there is XP as first OS :p17:30
GridCubeoh then your files should be like in /host/Documents and Settings/USRNAME/My Docs/My Pictures17:32
GridCubeor something like that17:32
X-Phipshaaaaaaaaa victory17:33
X-Phipsi have them17:33
X-Phipsdoc and settings > HP-Besitzer (hp_owner) > my files (eigene Dateien) and there I have all of folders etc17:34
X-Phipsso, drag pics into pictures17:34
X-Phipsand he'll show there a link ?17:34
aquixyour dutch?17:34
X-Phipsgerman aquix17:35
aquixsame same   :p17:35
X-Phipsdoes he link or does he move ?17:35
X-Phipslink?17:35
GridCubeif yuou move to the side panel it will show a + symbol17:36
GridCubeor a chain symbol17:36
X-Phipsi try it with an test-folder17:36
GridCubeit changes from time to time, it has to be the lower part of the sidepanel17:36
GridCubethe upper side will try to actually move the contents17:37
X-Phipsok17:37
X-Phipsi find the "test" folder in /host and pictures where i dragged it17:38
GridCubeX-Phips, wait17:39
X-Phipswhy17:40
X-Phipsehwhats up?17:40
X-Phips-eh17:40
X-Phipsproblem?17:42
GridCube:P17:42
GridCubeno i did a small tutorial17:42
X-Phipsso, dragging is ok?17:43
GridCubehttp://imagebin.org/21215017:44
GridCube:D17:44
GridCubeyes17:44
X-Phipsand what is he doing when i add more pics to the hard drive (in Win XP) from for ex. digital camera ?17:46
X-Phipshave i copy them too in Xubuntu to the panel?17:47
aquixno. when the drive is mounted you have the same exact acces both from windows and linux to the very same files17:47
X-Phipswhen i drag a folder called "spring 2010" from host > docs and settings > hp owner > my docs > my pictures to the side-panel in "Pictures", is that always actual bec. of mounting?17:49
X-Phipswhat i mean is, can i see a new folder which is (on Windows) located at "my Pictures" in xubuntu at USER > pictures without copying from /host ?17:51
aquixwhat host ?17:51
X-Phipsäh, this host in tunar !?!?17:52
X-Phipsfile-system > host17:52
aquixwhen you mount the windows drive, it's just like any other drive. you can do all the things with it that you can with linux drives17:53
aquixand the sidebar in thunar is just shortcuts to different folders. you can add and remove them as you like.17:54
X-Phipsand when i delete a folder in Win, is that folder deleted too in Xubuntu when I start Xubuntu after deleting ?17:54
X-Phipsis Xubuntu bec. of the mounting always current with showing Files, Folders etc which are edited in Win ?17:55
LMJHi17:56
aquixyes.   It's the same hard drive, but you access it from to different OS.17:56
babbleX-Phips: if you have your windows partition mounted, you're working with the files *on* that partition.17:56
babbleanything you delete from there is deleted from that partition.17:56
babbleit's not showing you something abstracted (or at least no more or less abstracted than when you're using that partition or disk from within windows)17:57
X-Phipsalthought i have copy folders in "Pict.", "Docs" etc , so in subfolders of "USER" ?17:57
LMJWhen I was using Ubuntu, I could simply encrypt a usb key, when I plugged it, it ask me for the password to uncrypt and access to it. Can I do the same thing as simple as it was with xubuntu ? What is the way to do it plz ?17:57
aquixit's like an external hdd.   you can plug it into different machines and changes you make on one will follow the drive, not the machine17:58
aquixX-Phips    you mean the shortcuts in the thunar sidebar?17:59
X-Phipsyes the shortcuts ^18:00
babbleLMJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage18:00
aquixX-Phips  thats just shortcuts to the different folders. they don't contain the data. only points to it18:00
X-Phipsand the shortcuts show for ex. a new folder i have created in win, althought i haven't copy him from /host to the shortcut ?18:01
aquixhmmm, how to explain this.18:02
X-Phips^^ yes thats the question i asked me all this time here :D18:02
aquixit can, but you have to make the shortcut.18:03
X-Phipsand how to write in Engl ...18:03
aquixah, I see18:03
aquixyou drag the folder to the sidebar, but not really. it doesn't copy anything, just makes a shortcut.18:03
X-Phipsaah, ok18:03
aquixso if you make a new folder in win. you have to drag it to the sidebar in thunar to make a shortcut18:04
X-Phipsyes, i got that ^18:04
X-Phipsand is it ok when i take the folder in "USER"18:04
aquixso your cool?18:04
X-Phipscool (h)18:04
X-Phips;)18:04
LMJthanks babble18:05
aquixthen forward and upwards :)18:05
babbleX-Phips: shortcuts in the Thunar sidebar will be just shortcuts; it won't do dynamic redirection of a folder that XP/Vista/Win7 treats as a dynamic user folder location18:05
babbleLMJ: :)18:06
X-Phipswhen i have a folder in the mainfolder "USER" which I can't find in the shortcuts, should i take them into the sidebar folder "USER" or down in the part of the shortcuts ?18:07
X-Phipsbabble: so all new folders created in win want to drag into shortcut-part18:07
babbleThat doesn't make sense to me: you want all new folders you create in <some location> on your windows partition to automatically appear as separate shortcuts in the Thunar sidebar?18:08
X-Phipsor in the mainfolder "USER"18:08
aquixno, you make the shortcuts you need by dragging the folder to the sidebar.18:08
aquixwhatever folder18:08
babbleHere's what's happening: when you drag a folder into the Thunar sidebar, it's adding a path to a file called gtk-bookmarks18:09
babbleif the location you're trying to make into a sidebar shortcut can't be gotten to from an absolute path, that shortcut in the sidebar won't work18:09
aquixbookmarks is a good anology. it's just bookmarks18:10
babbleif the location you want to use *can* be accessed as an absolute path, it will work.18:10
X-Phipsok, and much subfolders in "my pictures", where i have to drag them?18:10
babbleIt's difficult to understand exactly what you want18:10
aquixyeah18:10
X-Phipssry :D18:10
X-Phipsok, again18:11
aquixno worries. we blame windows, not you  :D18:11
babblecertain things the Windows UI does (like Documents and Settings, or User folders) aren't absolute locations18:11
aquixbrb, smokez18:11
babble(i.e. they're merged filesystems that represent two or more absolute locations that are merged together to look like a single folder)18:12
X-PhipsSubfolders in "my pictures" : copy into thunar folder "USER" or into thunar shortcut "Pictures" or into empty area near by shortcuts ?18:12
babbleif you want to shortcut one of those merged filesystems, that likely won't work.18:12
babbleif you want to shortcut a specific folder inside your specific user folder, that will work18:13
X-Phipsfor example:18:13
X-Phipsi had create a new folder in /host called "test". Dragged him into empty area near by shortcut (for create a new shortcut called "test"). But: don't see him in userfolder "USER"18:14
babblesidebar shortcuts aren't making aliases inside a folder on your windows partition.18:15
babblethey're not aliases or symlinks in the win filesystem18:15
X-Phipsaim: see the shortcut-folder "test" in the user-main-folder "USER"18:16
babblethey're paths, in a file in your home folder when you're booted into Linux, as I said.18:16
babbleso if you're looking for Windows style shortcuts for something you've added to the Thunar sidebar, those don't exist18:16
babbleYou're not listening.18:16
babbleThere isn't a *folder* of shortcuts on the Windows filesystem containing your Thunar sidebar shortcuts18:17
babbleit's reading a *file* in your home directory that contains a set of *paths*18:17
X-Phipsok, i thing i got that18:18
X-Phipsbut:18:18
babbleDo you understand how browser shortcuts work?18:18
babbleIt's similar to that.18:18
babblethere's not a collection of folders stored someplace.18:18
X-Phipsis it a mistake when I drag folders from /host directly to "USER"18:19
X-Phipsinstead of doing shortcut18:19
babbleit's difficult to understand what you want, so it's hard to say if what you're doing is something you want or don't want18:19
X-Phipshmmm18:19
X-Phipsi think i drag all the subfolders located in /host > Docs and ... > ... > ... > my pics in the shortcut "Pictures"18:21
babbleWhat do you want to do?18:21
X-Phipssee all the folders in the mainfolder "USER", when i open my personal folder "USER"18:22
X-Phipsmmh18:22
X-Phipsalways this f*** explaining ...18:22
X-Phipssry18:22
babbleAgain, the Windows UI doesn't have absolute paths for some dynamic locations18:24
babblehowever, if you're browsing something mounted in Thunar, Thunar will bookmark it correctly.18:25
X-Phipsok18:25
X-Phipslet it be :D18:25
babbleif you're looking at a collection of folders inside your user folder in Thunar, go up one level and bookmark the containing folder.18:25
babblethen, when you click that bookmark in the Thunar sidebar, it will do exactly the same thing as double clicking that containing folder to open it18:26
babbleif you *can't* see what you want to get at in Thunar, but you want Thunar to do something that Windows Explorer does to show you whatever location you're trying to see,18:26
babbleagain, that's probably a dynamically loaded merged folder that only works correctly in the Windows UI18:27
babblefor example, in XP when you're looking at Documents and Settings when logged in as your user, it's showing you the merged contents of *two* folders18:28
babble(Documents and Settings for your user, and Documents and Settings for all users)_18:28
babbleThunar won't show you that sort of merged folder view in a thing you can bookmark in the sidebar.18:28
babbleMy Pictures and My Documents do similar things, if I'm not mistaken18:29
astraljavaIs it possible he's looking into seeing links instead of bookmarks? He talks about seeing them _inside_ this USER folder (don't really know what that is referring to, anyhoo).18:30
babbleastraljava: Yeah, that's why I tried explaining that what he's adding in Thunar isn't a folder containing a list of shortcuts or symlinks.18:30
astraljavababble: Yep. Can you create links (as in `ln -s`) in Thunar somehow?18:31
babbleastraljava: sure, but dragged shortcuts in Thunar to the sidebar are paths in gtk-bookmarks18:31
astraljavaI get that. But how do you create links, then?18:31
babbleCtrl-Shift on drag in Thunar18:32
* astraljava is not on a linux box ATM so can't check.18:32
astraljavaRight.18:32
babblebut from what I can gather of his explanation, he's not seeing everything he's used to inside what I suspect is a merged folder in the Windows UI18:33
babblehe keeps referring to his pictures folder inside his user folder.18:33
astraljavaRight. Well, just a thought. You're doing a good job, please carry on. :)18:33
X-Phipsi see, i can't edit files because the "owner" is root18:38
X-Phipswhat to do / is that normal ?18:39
babbleare you attempting to bookmark a location on a windows partition that's mounted inside linux?18:40
X-Phipsediting files in shortcut-folders18:40
babblethat doesn't make sense to me.18:41
X-Phipsi cant delete files in shortcut-folders18:41
babblewhere is the folder shortcut-folders located? can you give me an absolute path to whatever you're looking at?18:41
X-Phipsthe shortcuts are from /host > docs and settings > hp owner > my files > my docs18:43
babbleI need an absolute path so I can understand better whatever it is you're trying to do18:43
babbledo you have a windows partition mounted inside linux?18:43
X-Phipswhat do you mean with absolute path?18:43
babbleWe'll go through this a step at a time.18:43
babble1. Do you have a Windows partition mounted in Linux?18:44
X-Phipsi have this linux installed with wubi18:44
GridCubeX-Phips, /host/docs&setting/ is owned by windows18:44
X-Phipsyes ^^18:44
GridCubeX-Phips, the link is just a link18:44
GridCubeto a folder18:44
X-Phipsyes ^^18:44
GridCubethats owned by linux18:44
babbleagain, if you can *see* what you want in Thunar, drag it to the sidebar18:45
GridCubethe link18:45
GridCubeyou dont have to move stuff to the /home/user/Images18:45
GridCubefor example18:45
babbleif you *cannot* see what you want in Thunar, but you want Thunar to do something Windows Explorer does for you in WIndows, it's difficult to understand you, but that likely won't work18:45
GridCubeyou just will move them out of windows folders18:45
X-Phipsand where i have to bookmark the pics, docs etc when i want to edit them?18:45
GridCubeyou can have a link to them if you DRAG AND DROP a link to the windows folder on the side bar18:46
babbleCan you navigate to the folder you want in Thunar?18:46
GridCubeno need to move the files18:46
GridCubejust go to that folder18:46
X-Phipsor better: what should i command for taking the rights to delete, edit etc18:46
GridCubeand use it18:46
GridCubeX-Phips, you should be able to do that already18:46
GridCubeX-Phips, really, you should use a normal installer and not use wubi18:46
X-Phipstja ...18:47
babblewubi installs are becoming the bane of my life.18:47
GridCubeyes18:47
GridCubesecond18:47
GridCubei don't understand how wubi works18:47
X-Phipsshould should should ...18:48
X-Phips;)18:48
babbleGridCube: it's sort of like using Qemu running from an ISO18:48
GridCubehehe :D18:48
babbleGridCube: Except that it's not running from an image; it's got its own root18:48
xubuntu329Hey, can someone tell me why xubuntu seems to freeze when booted as a livecd? it works just fine in virtualbox.18:48
xubuntu329*please18:48
GridCubei don't know... maybe hardware issues?18:49
babblexubuntu307: you'll need to narrow things down some more, most likely. Virtualbox is emulating very basic hardware.18:49
babblexubuntu307: have you tried booting from the live system with nomodeset?18:49
xubuntu329What's that?18:50
xubuntu329A terminal command of some sort?18:50
babblehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313218:50
Infy__It's a line you add to your kernel when it's booting up18:50
xubuntu329Ok18:50
babbleNomodeset will load software only video drivers and use only very basic graphics modes18:50
xubuntu329Thanks18:51
X-Phipswhat is the command for opening a folder?18:51
babbledo you want to open a folder in Thunar from the commandline?18:51
X-Phipsi want to add a new thing to a louncher18:52
X-Phipsin the bar at the bottom18:52
GridCubeX-Phips, thunar /path/to/directory18:52
babbleif you're specifying an executable file in a launcher, do /path/to/executable18:52
babbleif you want thunar to open a location, do a URL launcher and set /path/to/someplace as the URL18:52
X-Phipshmm18:53
X-Phipsopen a shortcut with klicking to a louncher on bar at bottom18:54
babblewhat, exactly, do you want this Launcher to do?18:54
X-Phipsopen the shortcut "Pictures"18:54
babblewhere is "Pictures" located?18:54
X-Phipsit's from /host18:55
babbleI understand that18:55
babbleI need the complete path to the folder you want the shortcut to open18:55
rolesphello all18:55
babbleopen your terminal18:55
X-Phipsopened18:55
babbledo:18:55
babblecd /host18:55
X-Phips /host$18:57
GridCubebabble, actually is easier18:57
babblecd 'Documents and Settings'18:57
GridCubeX-Phips, please do as i say18:57
X-Phipsok pls18:57
babble(or nav to it in Thunar, right click and do Open Terminal Here, maybe)18:58
GridCubenow X-Phips go and add a new launcher to the panel, right click add-element > launcher18:58
X-Phipsjop18:58
GridCubethen create a new launcher18:58
GridCubenot the big +, the one under it18:59
GridCubeas command use Thunar18:59
GridCubeand as working directory navigate to the folder you want it to open18:59
babbleyeah, I was getting to that18:59
babbleI need to understand the complete path as he's running in Wubi18:59
AetchoHi, this is the xubuntu help channel right?19:00
GridCubebabble, he just needs to navigate, you dont need to write, theres a navigate button19:00
GridCubeAetcho, yep youre in the right place19:00
babblethat should work, yeah19:00
X-Phipsthe folder i want to open with the launcher is named "Eigene Bilder"19:01
AetchoNice! Well, i sort of have a problem with xubuntu. Whenever i boot the livecd and arrive at the desktop. When i try to open a window, i can't close it down again/minimize it any of that stuff.19:02
AetchoSo, the windows freeze.19:02
babbleyou'll still need to specify a path for it in Thunar, X-Phips19:02
AetchoIs there a way to fix this?19:02
babbleAetcho: have you tried a couple of CDs?19:02
AetchoIm booting it from an usb19:02
babbledo you still have the ISO image you downloaded?19:02
AetchoYes19:02
AetchoIt's on the computer19:03
babblewhich one is it? (I'll go get the md5 and we'll check)19:03
AetchoI have re-extracted it to the usb serveral times19:03
AetchoWell, it's the 64 bit desktop one19:03
babblelet's see if it's a good image, first19:03
babble12.04 amd64 desktop?19:03
Aetchoy19:03
babbleone min.19:03
Aetchoty19:03
babblewhere is your downloaded image? (i.e. on your desktop? In your Downloads folder?)19:04
AetchoYes, it's in my downloads folder.19:04
babbleokay. are you in Linux or Windows at the moment?19:04
AetchoWindows vista sp2 64-bit19:05
babblelet me go get syntax for windows19:05
Aetchook19:05
babbleokay, should be the same.19:05
babbleopen a commandline and cd into your downloads folder19:06
babblein there do:19:06
babblemd5 xubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso19:06
AetchoI ook19:06
babblethat will give you a number19:06
X-Phipsdo a break19:07
babbleit should match this:19:07
babble724224b8d62c7bccecdee6b82850c0e619:07
Aetcho" MD5 is not an internal command, an external command, a program or a commandfile "19:07
AetchoDo i have to type run or something19:08
Aetchobefore 4b8d62c7bccecdee6b82850c0e619:08
babbleno, don't do the number.19:08
Aetchook19:08
babbleI want to see what number it gives you19:08
babbleas I said, cd into your downloads folder and do:19:08
babblemd5 xubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso19:08
AetchoI did, but it won't accept md5 xubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso19:09
Aetchoas a command19:09
babblehttp://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/19:09
genii-aroundmd5sum19:09
babbleah, there we go19:09
AetchoIt still won't.. accept it19:13
babblein the absence of any checksum utilities on your installation of Windows, have you tried redownloading a fresh image?19:13
AetchoYes, i did19:13
Aetcho...Same problem19:13
AetchoI have had the same problem with all distros of linux19:13
babblethen it's likely some issue with your specific hardware.19:14
AetchoMy graphics card maybe?19:14
AetchoBecause vista runs fine19:14
babbleit's possible.19:14
AetchoI just got new drivers, but is there anything else i can do?19:14
babbletry booting the live installer with nomodeset19:14
AetchoHow do i go about doing that?19:15
babblehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313219:15
AetchoThanks.19:15
rolespwhen I do: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre, get this: The package sun-java6-jre is not available, but some other package references to it. This may mean that the package is missing, outdated or just available from another source19:17
rolespE: Package "sun-java6-jre 'has no installation candidate19:17
rolespthere is not jre's in software center, so is another way tu install java?19:18
babbletry openjdk-7-jre19:18
babbleor if it really won't run in 7, there's an OpenJDK 6 runtime as well:19:20
babbleopenjdk-6-jre19:20
rolespok, babble, that worked, thanks19:22
babblerolesp: np :)19:22
babbleif it's for LibreOffice current, OpenJDK 7 should work just fine.19:23
X-Phipsback19:23
X-Phipsmuch thanks @ all for big help :)19:23
babbledid you get your launcher to do what you want?19:23
babbleoh, bother. Really Mageia? Really?19:24
babbleYour grub setup will ONLY do the installation of Mageia on this partition?19:24
babbleblarg19:24
X-Phipsthat's another part, no patience  anymore :D19:24
X-Phipswish you good day bye19:24
rolespbbl19:28
BelseruskHi all. Is it still better to upgrade Xubuntu via a pendrive/CD rather than via the update manager? Will this always be the case?19:55
aquixupgrades are getting better. but to be completely sure of a hazzel free experience a fresh install is better. And it's also a good way to finally get those backup's done.20:00
aquixand things like firefox gets a new faster profile that improves speed a bit20:01
aquixalso, I  have found new features going through all the different options and preferences on new installs.20:03
BelseruskCheers aquix.20:06
aquixno problem, just my humble opinion :)20:30
weekscorpHello... What is the best way to get all of the drivers I need for my computer now that I have installed xUbuntu?21:24
gordonjcpweekscorp: drivers?21:24
gordonjcpfor what?21:24
weekscorpI have tested ubuntu in the past a little bit and had issues with getting my printer and sound card to work.21:25
weekscorpwhen i say sound card i mean what came built in to the computer.21:26
weekscorpIt just told me installation complete. got to restart21:30
martinphonewhat photo organizer do you recommend?22:39
martinphoneinstead of glthumb, the default one22:39
mongydepends what you want.22:41
mongyf-spot, shotwell, digikam(kde)22:41
GridCubei like to use folders22:41
GridCubeand copy paste22:41
aquixOne thing that doesn't work. Set as desktop background in gtumb. how do you guys work around that?23:01
aquix*gthumb23:01
mongydo it from right click desktop23:06
mongyI rarely change my desktop though23:06
GridCuberight clic on an image on thunar, set as wallpaper23:06
GridCubeopen in ristretto, use as wallpaper23:06
mongyGridCube, never even noticed those.. lol23:07
aquixGridCube I open in ristretto too. The best feature with gthumb (over the thunar way) is that it show the last downloaded pictures on the bottom.23:19
aquixGridCube thank you23:24
aquixI use thunar, search by date, ctrl+1 for thumbs, and set as background. much easier.23:25
Cygnus-X1Okay, I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, and whenever an OSD comes up, a copy of the notifications winds up in a little mail type thing in the system tray23:30
Cygnus-X1Funny thing, its only happened in my LTS to LTS upgrade.  My fresh install and my 11.10 upgrade don't have that feature.23:31
Cygnus-X1how do I turn it off?23:31
aquixEvixion   think your router is depressed23:55

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