[01:24] is charm store by chance importing charms too soon? [01:24] i'm really confused to suddenly find a couple charms i submitted on jujucharms.com without any indication of promulgation in the relevant bugs [01:26] hrm. no... juju's not finding it in the charm store... that's very strange [04:30] nathwill: if you name a charm branch 'trunk' it will end up on jujucharms.com and in the charm store as cs:~your-lp-id/precise/charmname [04:31] nathwill: in that way, you can emulate PPA-like behavior [04:31] interesting. i wasn't aware of that, was kinda surprised. [04:32] i figured something like that was going on after juju failed to grab it from non-local. :) [04:33] nathwill: while I like the coolness of 'juju deploy x' .. its not suitable for production. You can't update the charm in any way if your live service needs some tweaks. [04:33] so.. local: is probably going to need to be the way people use most charms for a while anyway. :-P [04:34] SpamapS: that makes sense. i imagine most folks're going to be taking advantage of xyz config options anyhow. [04:36] nathwill: thats not really useful at 3am when your pager goes off and the charm is just broken though. ;) [04:36] nothing seems useful at 3am when your pager goes off [04:36] least of all one's brain ;) [04:36] except maybe a hammer, for the pager. [04:37] hopefully that hammer comes with a good resume template. ;) [04:37] lol. indeed... [05:38] $ juju add-relation nagios mysql [05:38] ... that would have been *too* easy, huh? [06:47] so, i've noticed a few times that relation-departed doesn't seem to get run if you destroy a service without removing the units first... anybody aware of that or should i file a bug? [16:35] ihashacks: actually, recent changes to juju *should* make it that easy [16:38] ihashacks: we just need to update the nagios charm [16:57] ihashacks: oh wow, nagios is REALLY out of date [16:57] * SpamapS notes that we really really need full testing.. like now [16:57] bit rot is bad [16:57] ihashacks: anyway, I am working on fixing it, lp:~clint-fewbar/charms/precise/nagios/trunk ... [17:26] \o/ [17:27] getting that working will be a big win for us === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [21:12] <_mup_> Bug #998888 was filed: juju-info should include the remote charm and open ports < https://launchpad.net/bugs/998888 > [23:10] ihashacks: ok, if you deploy cs:~clint-fewbar/precise/nagios , it should be able to relate to *any* service and it will add ping checks. Still needs a lot of work to group units into service groups and also to add more plugins [23:15] still needs a LOT of work [23:15] SpamapS, any service? or anything with http interface? === hspencer is now known as hspencer[afk]