| * apachelogger blinks | 00:36 | |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: it allows for Muon to provide notification for distros not using k-n-h (Debian springs to mind) | 00:57 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | For the usecase of "no Muon anywhere", I think that's probably a rare usecase. | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Both the reboot and hook functionality of k-n-h currently rely on stamps created by stuff in the update-notifier-common package | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | and muon-notifier is basically a frontend for update-notifier | 00:59 |
| JontheEchidna | with the reasoning being that if you don't have an update-notifier frontend installed and just use apt-get, you'd get no notifications anyways | 00:59 |
| * JontheEchidna takes the quantal dive | 05:14 | |
| Mamarok | the title is misleading: apparently Google employees use Kubuntu: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html | 11:35 |
| === amichair__ is now known as amichair | ||
| Tm_T | Mamarok: Kubuntu is Ubuntu | 11:38 |
| Mamarok | yeah, sort of, but the author tries to actually make it sound like only the cook uses Kubuntu | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | bah | 12:35 |
| Tm_T | so if one installs kubuntu-active, there's no normal kubuntu desktop anymore | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: yah | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: lolwut? | 12:42 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: yes | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | when I try to login to plasma-desktop, it gives me active | 12:59 |
| Tm_T | and only active | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 12:59 |
| Tm_T | even when I have only installed active, never used it | 12:59 |
| Tm_T | I have got this on two system now | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | sounds unintended | 13:00 |
| Tm_T | yup | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | /usr/share/xessions/plasma-desktop.desktop | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | or some such file | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | what does it contain? | 13:00 |
| Tm_T | kde-plasma.desktop has Exec=/usr/bin/startkde | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | and the active one? | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:04 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: has startactive, as it should | 13:04 |
| yofel | rbelem_: ^ | 13:09 |
| Tm_T | I haven't been able to figure out what and where is going wrong | 13:10 |
| Tm_T | there's no plasma-active on any autostart folder that should affect | 13:11 |
| Tm_T | almost like /usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/share/autostart/ is read, but why, and where | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:16 |
| yofel | Tm_T: what are the contents of /etc/kde4rc ? | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: echo $KDEDIRS | 13:16 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: ahha | 13:16 |
| Tm_T | /usr/share/kubuntu-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/ | 13:16 |
| apachelogger | ohhhoooo | 13:17 |
| apachelogger | oh well, that almost makes sense ^^ | 13:17 |
| Tm_T | where that is defined? because it's like that while I'm on unity | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | ohhhh | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | probably an xession file | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | which explains the problem | 13:18 |
| Tm_T | uhhuh | 13:18 |
| Tm_T | yofel: prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/ | 13:20 |
| yofel | then it's probably something as apachelogger said | 13:20 |
| Tm_T | yup, but couldn't locate any xsession file that do define it | 13:22 |
| Tm_T | aah | 13:24 |
| Tm_T | /etc/X11/Xsession.d/51kubuntu-active: export KDEDIRS=/usr/share/kubuntu-active-default-settings/:/usr/share/plasma-active-default-settings/:$KDEDIRS | 13:24 |
| Tm_T | I'm blind for not noticing that sooner | 13:24 |
| Tm_T | that file should be read only when plasma-active is the session, am I right? | 13:25 |
| Tm_T | now it's read every time | 13:25 |
| Tm_T | so $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP should be checked before setting anything else on there | 13:26 |
| Tm_T | or $DESKTOP_SESSION rather | 13:28 |
| apachelogger | no | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | it shouldn't be set through xession | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | that doesn't make sense for active | 13:30 |
| Tm_T | right | 13:33 |
| Tm_T | where it should be set? I assume on startactive or some similar script | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | either there or the Exec of the desktop file | 13:38 |
| Tm_T | oaight, will move stuff to startactive here and see how it goes | 13:39 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 408 * debian/ (11 files) update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 13:45 |
| Tm_T | startactive script is nicely small btw | 13:45 |
| yofel | the contents are weird though.. | 13:46 |
| Tm_T | it just launched dbus and then startactive.bin, that's it | 13:46 |
| Tm_T | launches too | 13:46 |
| yofel | it *kills* dbus before that | 13:46 |
| Tm_T | yup | 13:48 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 5:71~pre15ubuntu13 | 13:48 |
| Tm_T | it's not first time I see something like that done with dbus | 13:49 |
| Tm_T | eh, unity-greeter doesn't show active as available session | 14:00 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 98 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | lol | 14:08 |
| Tm_T | brargh | 14:11 |
| Tm_T | I'm not amused anymore | 14:11 |
| Tm_T | I see no reason why it wouldn't show it | 14:12 |
| Tm_T | no | 14:26 |
| Tm_T | plasma-active isn't on the list now at all | 14:26 |
| Tm_T | not even with lightdm-kde-greeter | 14:26 |
| Tm_T | ah, now it's there | 14:33 |
| Tm_T | not my day... | 14:33 |
| Tm_T | and not it's not there | 14:38 |
| Tm_T | now | 14:43 |
| === jalcine is now known as Jacky | ||
| apachelogger | perhaps the tryexec fails? | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | which would make the file unlisted | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | however raising the question why the tryexec fails | 15:06 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: it works now | 15:11 |
| Tm_T | prolly was something of my own doings, I just reverted everything and redid with caution /: | 15:11 |
| Tm_T | but yeah, placing those KDEDIRS exports to startactive does the job just fine | 15:12 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys can someone take a look 998630 i dunno why its happening or causing it would be great to get some guidance on how to fix it if possible. | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | bug 998630 | 15:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998630 in plasma-netbook (Ubuntu) "plasma netbook shell crashes on kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998630 | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: what exactly is causing the above bug of mine? | 15:53 |
| yofel | from what I see, some dbus call in the menubar widget crashes. I don't have time to dig into dbus in c++ now though | 15:54 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: does that mean its upstream kde issue or something kubuntu specific? | 15:54 |
| yofel | as a workaround remove the widget | 15:55 |
| yofel | not sure | 15:55 |
| eagles0513875 | one thing i do notice is that after the crash i get a black screen with the drop box box in the middle | 15:55 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: the problem is this is the netbook version and i need the menus at the top | 15:55 |
| yofel | well, removing the widget *should* make the application menubar appear again | 15:55 |
| yofel | it's just a matter of where the menu is | 15:56 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: oddly enough first time it crashes and after i close the bug reporter it comes back on its own | 15:56 |
| eagles0513875 | 2nd time it doesnt | 15:56 |
| yofel | hm | 15:56 |
| eagles0513875 | whats bad this affects 12.04 and 12.10 so far in the sense of netbook users | 15:57 |
| yofel | maybe it doesn't wait long enough for the dbus interface to start? Dunno | 15:57 |
| eagles0513875 | not sure im a novice to all of this hence why the questions for guidance | 15:57 |
| === DarkwingUDS is now known as Darkwing | ||
| CIA-42 | [qapt] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120513161836-vdm9nrv0fau2xjzr * debian/ (15 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 16:18 |
| CIA-42 | * Merge with Debian, remaining changes: - Keep dependency on a polkit frontend | 16:18 |
| CIA-42 | for libqapt-runtime - Keep cherry-picked patches from the 1.3 branch * Team | 16:18 |
| JontheEchidna | This new Qt Creator 2.5 is fancy | 16:21 |
| Darkwing | JontheEchidna: Fancy good? | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | Todo plugin <3 http://i.imgur.com/gSs8O.png | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | new welcome page: http://i.imgur.com/KxBfC.png | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 16:24 |
| eagles0513875 | hey Darkwing and JontheEchidna :D | 16:25 |
| JontheEchidna | hi | 16:25 |
| Darkwing | JontheEchidna: That is sweeeeeeeeeeet. | 16:30 |
| yofel | nice :) | 16:30 |
| Darkwing | Okay, There are going to be a few emails from me today... | 16:32 |
| Darkwing | Updates from UDS as well as call for nominations and schedule for the Council elections. | 16:32 |
| jussi | wooohoo, the cook uses Kubuntu... :D http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/05/how-google-developers-use-ubuntu.html | 17:06 |
| yofel | the last paragraph about unity and kde is unclear - is he talking about users not liking change in unity or kde? | 17:09 |
| Riddell | in unity | 17:09 |
| Riddell | he explicity mentioned that the kde users are looking forward to the precise update | 17:10 |
| yofel | btw. did anyone try the NTP time update in the date and time settings? I had 2 people tell me it crashes (bug 998551), but I can't reproduce that | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998551 in Kubuntu PPA "time server appled crashed when apply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998551 | 17:11 |
| Riddell | no crash but I do get a nasty error diaogue saying "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6, " | 17:13 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:14 |
| Riddell | I'm going off irc for a couple of weeks in a hope to prevent burnout, e-mail or text/phone me if you need me | 17:15 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 215 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:15 |
| yofel | Riddell: sure thing, have a good time :) | 17:16 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 168 * debian/ (10 files) * Switch boost build-dep to 1.49 * Update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 17:20 |
| yofel | bulldog98: please don't forget to add any created files to bzr before you commit (not-installed was missing from smokegen) | 17:29 |
| yofel | bulldog98: and please use present tense in your changelog entries | 17:31 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog libmarblewidget13.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 17:35 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:38 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 29 * debian/ (not-installed changelog) releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:41 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:44 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 17:48 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Philip Muškovac * 29 * debian/ (changelog libokularcore1abi1.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 17:52 |
| Darkwing | bug: 998630 | 18:00 |
| Darkwing | hmmm.... | 18:00 |
| Darkwing | bug 998630 | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998630 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "plasma netbook shell crashes on kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998630 | 18:00 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 18:08 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 154 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 18:08 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: filed a bug about the plasma-active issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-active-default-settings/+bug/998846 | 18:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998846 in kubuntu-active-default-settings (Ubuntu) "KDEDIRS set in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/51kubuntu-active messes normal Kubuntu session" [Undecided,New] | 18:11 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/ (changelog libkexiv2-10.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 18:17 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/blinken] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 18:19 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 28 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 18:22 |
| yofel | shiiii.... | 18:32 |
| yofel | libboost-graph1.49-dev [required by kdepimlibs] is in universe for quantal | 18:33 |
| * yofel reverts | 18:35 | |
| yofel | ScottK: or do you know until when that'll be in main? | 18:39 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 18:43 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 62 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 19:03 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 274 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 | 19:10 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: yes I think I forgot present tense in the first changelogs, but later I did present (and I don’t remember missing not-installed) :( | 19:11 |
| yofel | np, I noticed it was right in another one. | 19:12 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: it’s ok if you point out, if I do something wrong, cause it’s the only way I’ll find out about what I did wrong and that I did something wrong :) | 19:16 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: http://forum.kubuntu-de.org/index.php?topic=16543.new#new we may have to patch the akonadi settings, to make sure you have that installed first | 19:29 |
| yofel | likely, file a bug | 19:30 |
| bulldog98 | against akonadi or something else? | 19:32 |
| yofel | against whatever provides that backup feature I would say. (I didn't know that akonadi has something like that yet) | 19:32 |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/analitza] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/ (changelog libanalitza4abi1.symbols) Update symbol files for gcc 4.7 | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | erk | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | new gcc | 19:34 |
| yofel | yeah, | 19:34 |
| yofel | increadibly fun already | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | have fun :D | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 19:34 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: bug #998868 | 19:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998868 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu) "akonaditray should check if mysqldump and bzip2 are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998868 | 19:39 |
| yofel | thx | 19:40 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: any interesting build failiures? | 19:41 |
| yofel | so far only kdepimlibs being in dep-wait as boost 1.49 binaries are in universe | 19:42 |
| yofel | otherwise there's only symbol shuffle | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | ah :) | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | some of the boost libraries already seem to have been promoted: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/104274870/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.akonadi_1.7.2-0ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz | 19:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I'd guess that a few weren't promoted, for whateverreason | 19:43 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I’ll have a look at that now | 19:45 |
| yofel | bulldog98: at what? | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | bug #998868 | 19:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 998868 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu) "akonaditray should check if mysqldump and bzip2 are installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/998868 | 19:45 |
| yofel | ah ok, thanks | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: was it in kde-wallpapers where you did an simular patch? | 19:51 |
| yofel | bulldog98: no, or you don't mean me. What are you trying to do? (note that bzip2 should already be installed, ubuntu-minimal depends on that) | 19:56 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: yeah was kde-workspace | 19:56 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: that’s the patch atm: http://paste.kde.org/477422 | 21:02 |
| yofel | bulldog98: line 9 is obviously wrong, for the rest I'm too tired right now | 21:03 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: :) | 21:28 |
| === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc | ||
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