| melodie | hi | 00:58 |
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| melodie | if there is someone here, I would like to report a small issue while receiving a confirmation by mail after I send gpg keys fingerprint to launchpad | 00:59 |
| wgrant | melodie: What's the problem? | 00:59 |
| melodie | I followed the instructions from this page: https://help.launchpad.net/ReadingOpenPgpMail | 00:59 |
| melodie | very carefully | 00:59 |
| melodie | I use Sylpheed, and while trying to decypher the message with the said action, I got an error message | 01:00 |
| melodie | I tried to remove the * at the beginning of the command, but same, an error message | 01:00 |
| melodie | so I tried with command line: | 01:00 |
| melodie | did a "save to /tmp" and did a command line : gpg --decrypt nameofmail | 01:01 |
| melodie | and then a new error message that said something about the end of line not good | 01:01 |
| melodie | therefore I removed the text around the message and left just the message with beginning and end of message | 01:01 |
| melodie | then I could read the message | 01:01 |
| melodie | the "gpg --decrypt my-message" prompted me for my pass phrase and I could get to it. | 01:02 |
| melodie | I thought I should report it somewhere. others may not have the idea to do this way to solve the problem. | 01:02 |
| melodie | I would suggest to send the whole message encrypted, to avoid trouble. | 01:03 |
| melodie | wgrant: is that explained well enough ? | 01:03 |
| wgrant | What was the error message from within Sylpheed? | 01:04 |
| melodie | I check and paste it here | 01:04 |
| wgrant | melodie: It'd be nice to use OpenPGP/MIME, but then anyone using a webmail or Windows mail client would be in trouble. | 01:04 |
| melodie | it is in French : do you mind or do I open sylpheed in english ? | 01:05 |
| wgrant | Inline encryption lets anyone copy it out easily, to work around problems like you just had :) | 01:05 |
| melodie | English | 01:05 |
| wgrant | I can probably get the gist of it in French. | 01:05 |
| melodie | --- Terminé : gpg --no-tty --command-fd 0 --passphrase-fd 0 --decrypt /home/joyce/.sylpheed-2.0/mimetmp/00000009.mimetmp | | 01:05 |
| melodie | sh: -c: line 1: Erreur de syntaxe : fin de fichier prématurée | 01:05 |
| wgrant | Huh | 01:05 |
| wgrant | You had selected the whole inline message block? | 01:05 |
| melodie | with the * at the beginning or without is the same error message | 01:05 |
| wgrant | AIUI those sylpheed operations operate on the currently selected text. | 01:05 |
| melodie | I had selected nothing : where is it written that I should select the text before hitting the action menu ? | 01:06 |
| melodie | o_o | 01:06 |
| melodie | :) | 01:06 |
| melodie | then maybe this detail might be added to the doc at that page ? :) | 01:06 |
| melodie | what do you think ? | 01:06 |
| wgrant | The %p means selected content. I think %f runs over the whole file. | 01:06 |
| melodie | I am the kind of girl who doesn't know about such details. /o\ | 01:07 |
| wgrant | See section 13.4 of http://sylpheeddoc.sourceforge.net/en/manual/manual-13.html. Could you try with %f? Perhaps we should update the docs to use that instead. | 01:07 |
| melodie | wo who ! | 01:07 |
| melodie | I would not want to hurt your feeling, but I don't fancy reading so many docs to get to one aim. I already read man gpg a lot... | 01:08 |
| melodie | :D | 01:08 |
| wgrant | Heh | 01:08 |
| wgrant | I'll update the help wiki to say you have to select the message. | 01:08 |
| wgrant | Thanks for letting us know. | 01:08 |
| melodie | would you know of a Debian mentor for my firt package ? ;D | 01:08 |
| melodie | wgrant: thank you very much ! ^^ | 01:08 |
| wgrant | #debian-mentors on OFTC might be your best bet for that :) | 01:09 |
| wgrant | np | 01:09 |
| wgrant | I've updated the docs. | 01:09 |
| melodie | wgrant: I have been there. I was just kidding, because I used quite some time to get to learn to make a package as fast as I could. :) | 01:09 |
| wgrant | Heh | 01:10 |
| melodie | now I'll try to make it get to ppa, while waiting for it to get further | 01:10 |
| wgrant | Good plan. | 01:10 |
| melodie | thanks. | 01:10 |
| melodie | thanks for having updated the doc ! | 01:10 |
| wgrant | :) | 01:11 |
| * wgrant wanders off for a while. | 01:12 | |
| melodie | there is still something wrong but I can't find out what | 01:12 |
| melodie | wgrant: I have selected the part which is crypted and I still get the same message error | 01:15 |
| wgrant | melodie: Including the BEGIN and END line? | 01:17 |
| melodie | Yes, I tried both, but now I might have a clue | 01:17 |
| melodie | I check and I tell you in 2 seconds | 01:17 |
| wgrant | Did you readd the *? | 01:18 |
| wgrant | "Prepending *: this will allow you to send to the command's standard input a text that you will enter in a dialog window. But in contrast to prepending >, the entered text is hidden (useful when entering passwords)." | 01:18 |
| melodie | wgrant: now that works. I had to close Sylpheed and reopen it for that. | 01:19 |
| wgrant | Aha | 01:19 |
| wgrant | I've never used it. | 01:20 |
| melodie | once I hit the command in the menu action, after having selected the text, including entry and end of encrypted part, I am prompted the passphrase in a small window, then I can read the message. this works in French as well as in English (if I start Sylpheed from a console with the "LANG=C" environment. | 01:20 |
| melodie | ) | 01:20 |
| melodie | wgrant: it works indeed with the full command line as provided, with the * at the beginning and the | at the end of the command line. | 01:21 |
| wgrant | Great. | 01:24 |
| melodie | wgrant: fun ! now it works even without selecting the encrypted part. I think maybe the trick would have been to close and reopen Sylpheed after having set up the new actions. | 01:24 |
| melodie | so... | 01:24 |
| melodie | maybe would you also want to advise to quit the app and restart it after configuring new actions ? :) | 01:25 |
| wgrant | Done | 01:26 |
| melodie | thanks again. | 01:28 |
| melodie | can you do anything about the code of conduct ? there is a fault of spelling. XD | 01:31 |
| melodie | s/behaviour/behavior/ | 01:31 |
| melodie | and there is one more error. I will try to find who can do something | 01:32 |
| melodie | https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.1/+download | 01:32 |
| wgrant | melodie: "behavior" is US English, pretty much everywhere else uses "behaviour" | 01:33 |
| melodie | wgrant: then I need to find one more dictionnary for Firefox | 01:33 |
| melodie | what about minimises ? | 01:33 |
| melodie | it says it should be written with a z inside | 01:33 |
| wgrant | z/s is again US vs world | 01:33 |
| melodie | minimizes | 01:33 |
| melodie | oh oh § | 01:33 |
| melodie | ! | 01:34 |
| melodie | my dictionnary is us then | 01:34 |
| melodie | ok, never mind. | 01:34 |
| wgrant | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#-our.2C_-or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#-ise.2C_-ize_.28-isation.2C_-ization.29 | 01:34 |
| melodie | I installed the English UK addon for Firefox | 01:36 |
| melodie | this way I can check with both | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Great. | 01:36 |
| melodie | this is a good addition. there are way too many things to learn in file. :D | 01:37 |
| melodie | lief | 01:37 |
| melodie | no | 01:37 |
| melodie | life | 01:37 |
| melodie | pff | 01:37 |
| melodie | sorry. :D | 01:37 |
| melodie | would you advise me on a name for a ppa ? | 01:38 |
| melodie | thanks again, and good night | 01:44 |
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| alo21 | hi all | 15:41 |
| alo21 | I would like to fix bug... could you tell where I can find easy one? | 15:42 |
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| ondrej | hi, can somebody moderate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/876387/comments/40 (haven't found where to report directly in launchpad) | 20:11 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 876387 in psmisc (Ubuntu Oneiric) "fuser forking uncontrollably in cron job" [High,Triaged] | 20:11 |
| czajkowski | done | 20:12 |
| pavolzetor | hi guys, | 21:17 |
| pavolzetor | is there any way to track ppa downloads? | 21:17 |
| pavolzetor | demographics, stats | 21:17 |
| pavolzetor | so I will know, who and where uses my app, and how many users I do have | 21:17 |
| lifeless | there is an API that will give you aggregate download statistics | 21:22 |
| lifeless | due to UK/EU regulation we can't disclosure personally identifying information | 21:22 |
| pavolzetor | http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/tracking-ppa-download-statistics | 21:23 |
| pavolzetor | thnkas going to explore, | 21:24 |
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| thumper | lifeless: hey hey, you around? | 22:19 |
| lifeless | yup | 22:19 |
| thumper | so... personal bug lists | 22:19 |
| thumper | was talking with the lp peeps | 22:19 |
| thumper | and they said you wouldn't likely block it as long as I deleted enough code | 22:20 |
| thumper | lifeless: what are your thoughts? | 22:21 |
| lifeless | I've a great deal of interest in seeing LP become more powerful :). | 22:21 |
| thumper | and by that you mean what? | 22:21 |
| lifeless | I mean that I like features being added, as long as we can maintain them - which is what deleting code is about, keeping the total codebase size under control | 22:22 |
| thumper | ok... | 22:22 |
| thumper | for me this is the ability to have a single priority list of bugs | 22:22 |
| thumper | which people can then attack from the top | 22:22 |
| lifeless | There are a few conceptual discussions around personal bugs lists | 22:23 |
| thumper | and having shared write access to the list | 22:23 |
| lifeless | from the very simple to the radically different | 22:23 |
| thumper | I have a relatively defined set of criteria I need | 22:23 |
| thumper | and happy to actually write and mentor things through | 22:23 |
| lifeless | you want a work queue for a team | 22:23 |
| thumper | although I'd like some help | 22:23 |
| thumper | lifeless: yes I do, priority queue :) | 22:23 |
| lifeless | team maintained and team executable, right ? | 22:23 |
| thumper | well, the team doing the work isn't the same team setting the priority | 22:24 |
| thumper | :) | 22:24 |
| thumper | need write by distro, design, tech team lead | 22:24 |
| thumper | to have a common agreed priority bug list | 22:24 |
| lifeless | so, if you had (task, team, priority) | 22:25 |
| thumper | write by a few distro people (not everyone ) | 22:25 |
| thumper | yeah, that is about as complicated as my schema goes :) | 22:25 |
| lifeless | as a generic thing, with a editing facility and a view facility | 22:25 |
| thumper | yes | 22:25 |
| thumper | that's about it | 22:25 |
| lifeless | you could model your ACL by having a team 'ubuntu-desktop-bugs-priority', anyone in that team can edit it, and as its a public team, anyone can see it. | 22:26 |
| thumper | that is pretty much what I thought too | 22:26 |
| thumper | not too complicated | 22:26 |
| lifeless | that in itself wouldn't support rich integration (e.g. showing a priority on regular bug listings) [because of performance and UI issues: 1:M on task means you may have many priorities to show] | 22:27 |
| thumper | although... | 22:27 |
| thumper | perhaps we want the possibility of multiple priority lists for a team | 22:27 |
| thumper | which would imply another table | 22:27 |
| lifeless | why ? | 22:27 |
| thumper | allowing a name, and display name | 22:27 |
| * thumper shrugs | 22:27 | |
| thumper | well | 22:27 |
| thumper | right now, I only need one | 22:27 |
| thumper | but what about later? | 22:27 |
| lifeless | simple is good, folk can build up their own things on top of it. | 22:27 |
| thumper | yes | 22:28 |
| lifeless | just add another team, make the first one a member, and you've got another list. | 22:28 |
| thumper | I guess if you want more than one list | 22:28 |
| lifeless | with the same ACL. | 22:28 |
| thumper | make another team | 22:28 |
| thumper | right? | 22:28 |
| lifeless | right, you can say its a workaround, but its one that if people are doing we can address by adding a name facility. | 22:28 |
| lifeless | but doing named lists would be a 33% increase in data to process (and a corresponding decrease in performance) | 22:29 |
| thumper | so... we would address this later if needed? | 22:29 |
| lifeless | right | 22:29 |
| thumper | I'd even be fine with just a web view, and rest write interface | 22:31 |
| lifeless | so, I suggest you do a minimal LEP, don't worry about implementation stuff there, try to make sure that you have enough functionality listed that it would be usable | 22:31 |
| lifeless | for your needs | 22:31 |
| thumper | ok | 22:31 |
| lifeless | I'll review on a technical basis, mrevell can identify any product issues, and then we can get rolling | 22:31 |
| thumper | I'll try to get to it soonish | 22:31 |
| thumper | ok, cool | 22:31 |
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