[00:02] <Debolaz> I'd like to be able to use full disk encryption + btrfs + no swap partition. All at the same time. :)
[00:03] <MrChrisDruif> And that isn't possible as of now? Afaik it is...
[00:03] <Debolaz> Last time I tried it wasn't.
[00:04] <Debolaz> But I will admit I haven't checked the normal installer of the two last releases.
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> And when was the last time you tried? ;-)
[00:04] <Debolaz> It used to be impossible to use full disk encryption in the normal installer.
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> Debolaz; please try it again, as I think what you want is already available in the 12.04 (if not 11.10) installer
[00:05] <Debolaz> Downloading the normal iso now to test.
[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> Good boi
[00:18] <MrChrisDruif> Debolaz; just ping me if it works. I'll be in channel, thou not at my computer/smartphone
[00:18] <MrChrisDruif> You got me interested ^_^
[00:35] <Debolaz> Will do.
[00:36] <Debolaz> Hrmm, Empathy puzzles me. If I try to connect to MSN from someplace else, it will immediately reconnect, preventing me from using MSN anywhere else, but if it loses connection for any other reason, it just sits there without bothering to do anything.
[00:38] <Debolaz> And Pidgin still doesn't want to play nice with the launcher.
[00:47] <Daekdroom> Bad Pidgin :(
[00:47] <Daekdroom> Fortunately I found a workaround for Pidgin.
[00:49] <Debolaz> I made my own workaround. I made the message indicator blink instead of change color so I could see when I received a message. :)
[00:53] <Debolaz> Frankly, I don't really "get" the design of the current message indicator. It seems a little bit pointless to make it change color. It doesnt draw your attention, and if you have received a message someplace, it will be indicated on the launcher.
[00:54] <Debolaz> It just seems like it was designed by someone unsure of what they wanted to accomplish.
[01:08] <Debolaz> MrChrisDruif: Right, I'm in the ubuntu desktop installers partition editor now, and I see no way of doing full disk encryption.
[01:11] <Patrickdk> wasn't that always only on the alt install image?
[01:11] <Debolaz> Patrickdk: That's what I thought, but MrChrisDruif said otherwise. :)
[01:11] <Patrickdk> ah
[01:11] <Patrickdk> been a long time since I installed a desktop image :)
[01:11]  * Debolaz will in other words remain concerned about the alternative installer being removed in 12.10
[01:22] <Debolaz> Full disk encryption is a must-have for me, so hopefully the normal installer will be able to support that if the alternate installer is removed.
[01:34] <MrChrisDruif> Isn't it at the login section that you can choose to encrypt disc or is that only the /home partition?
[01:38] <Debolaz> Only /home
[01:39] <Debolaz> Full disk encryption has to be done at the partitioning stage. The /home encryption works on a per-file level so it doesn't need to be done at partitioning.
[03:21] <Fudge> is anyone able to install something to confirm that quantal locks up please?
[03:26] <Fudge> head_victim  are you running a quantal install?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Fudge, install what?
[03:32] <Fudge> wilee-nilee  I use software speech to access a console, modprobe speakup_soft start=1 and apt-get install espeakup, when i switch back to a desktop and back to console with no pty video drivers installed, it locsk my machine up
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> Fudge, bummer, that is a bit more then I want to risk, have you posted on the ubuntu forums?
[03:34] <Fudge> wilee-nilee  nah not yet, was hoping someone woudl be willing to test it for me first, like with a vm or something
[03:34] <Fudge> usually if one wanted console speech to work at system boot the speakup_soft start=1 would be in /etc/modules but i start it manually so it woudl only result in one lock up without trying to track down through logs why
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Fudge, I'm not really familiar at all with these options really, sorry.
[03:36] <Fudge> its cool wilee-nilee , thanks anyway
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:06] <penguin42> Hey BK
[13:09] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
[13:10] <BluesKaj> quiet day in the quantal repos
[15:02] <JonEdney> Is there a 12.10 server daily build, out of curiosity?
[15:13] <IdleOne> They haven't finished cleaning up the rooms from UDS
[15:36] <eagles0513875> JonEdney: i think you could just change the names in sources.list on a 12.04 server install and upgrade that way
[15:37] <JonEdney> eagles0513875, I didn't even consider that.  I dont have a need for it, just for curiosity and learning.  I may try it.
[15:37] <eagles0513875> JonEdney: at this point you cannot use the do-release-upgrade -d as its very very early in the dev cycle for 12.10
[17:39] <Resistance> yep, changing it from 'precise' to 'quantal' will work :P
[17:39] <Resistance> JonEdney:  ^
[17:42] <JonEdney> Very interesting.
[18:03] <MrChrisDruif> It has worked for me
[18:05] <penguin42> be careful; what you get by doing that won't necessariyl eventually end up the same as what's released
[18:41] <yooozy> hey guys, don't have your hard drive overheated sometimes?
[18:42] <Resistance> yooozy:  i have my CPU overheat more than my hard drive does
[18:42] <Resistance> what makes you think your hard drive is overheating
[18:43] <yooozy> Resistance, I can feel it under my palm on my laptop, that's obvious
[18:43] <Resistance> yooozy:  so can i when my CPU overheats
[18:43] <Resistance> normally when i check the temp sensors, the CPU is 98C and the hard drive is 52C (only because of the thermal output of the CPU)
[18:44] <Resistance> did you check your system's temp sensors?
[18:44] <yooozy> Resistance, my CPU overheats when I use extensive programs like chess  engines in my case
[18:44] <Resistance> well then assume the CPU is the problem instead of the drive, or check the sensors
[18:46] <yooozy> Resistance, I got conky is precise?
[18:47] <yooozy> Resistance, is it precise?
[18:48] <Resistance> my system?
[18:51] <yooozy> Resistance, no I mean conky
[18:51] <Resistance> oh conky...
[18:52] <Resistance> nope, i dont use conky
[18:52] <yooozy> Resistance, how do get Temperature info?
[18:52] <yooozy> *do you
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> yooozy, Take a look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[19:05] <yooozy> wilee-nilee, thanks
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> yooozy, you can find conkies that will have the temperature stuff already.
[19:06] <yooozy> wilee-nilee, ok
[20:34] <MechanisM> Hello I'm having problems on starting gnome-control-center http://paste.ubuntu.com/986115/
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> MechanisM, should open that way but what happens when you try settings? Is this in 12.10?