| bradzo | hi all | 05:09 |
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| benonsoftware | Hiya bradzo | 05:10 |
| bradzo | hi benonsoftware ! | 05:11 |
| bradzo | i thought i'd get in early so i didn't forget! | 05:11 |
| bradzo | i'm going to upgrade from 10.10 desktop to 11.04 desktop tonight - is it interactive? can I pre-answer some questions before I go to bed? | 06:14 |
| head_victim | Anyone here proficient with wubi? | 08:55 |
| benonsoftware | head_victim: Depends | 08:56 |
| head_victim | Well I have a drive with Ubuntu on it that was installed via wubi (which I was only told was done that way after removing it from a PC and rewriting an MBR) that when connected to another Ubuntu pc won't mount | 08:57 |
| benonsoftware | head_victim: so you wiped it then you found out it was wbubi? | 09:01 |
| head_victim | Nah it was incorrectly updated and had piles of dependency errors as well as other problems. | 09:02 |
| head_victim | And I was told the new computer was ready anyway so after spending a day trying to resolve the upgrade issues I figured I'd just unplug it and plug it into the new pc and rsync /home | 09:03 |
| head_victim | The problem is, when I plug it into the new PC it shows up as unallocated and won't mount | 09:03 |
| benonsoftware | head_victim: Eww, sounds kinda messy. I don't hink I would be of any help for that issue | 09:04 |
| benonsoftware | s/hink/think/ | 09:04 |
| * benonsoftware may or may not be able to make the meeting tonight | 09:05 | |
| head_victim | Bummer, I see jaddi make a fb thingy for it | 09:09 |
| head_victim | I wonder if sagaci will be around | 09:09 |
| Tibor | hi all | 09:11 |
| head_victim | Gday Tibor | 09:11 |
| benonsoftware | Hiya Tibor | 09:11 |
| Tibor | I'm new to this, so I will try to follow along | 09:13 |
| * md_5 hopes to be at the meeting | 09:15 | |
| benonsoftware | +999999999999999999999999999999999999+ | 09:20 |
| benonsoftware | Oops, sorry about that | 09:20 |
| head_victim | Heh | 09:22 |
| head_victim | Well if anyone has anything interest to add to the agenda feel free | 09:23 |
| head_victim | I'm still scratching my head about what to do with a wubi install ;) | 09:23 |
| benonsoftware | I actually have had a thought for anyone hosting release partys or anything like that | 09:25 |
| benonsoftware | head_victim sort of like your giveaway, I can get my hands on some O'Reilley ebook vouchers so if people want to give them away at a evetnt contact me | 09:26 |
| head_victim | Are they decent vouchers or just the ones you can get online? | 09:27 |
| benonsoftware | head_victim: I believe for free books but I can check | 09:27 |
| * benonsoftware sends a email off to check now | 09:27 | |
| ikt | there be a meeting tonight? | 09:38 |
| benonsoftware | ikt: Yes | 09:38 |
| md_5 | Team Meeting: Sun 13/05/2012 @ 2000 AEST (GMT+10) | 09:38 |
| ikt | sweet | 09:45 |
| head_victim | So who's around | 09:58 |
| md_5 | me ;s | 09:58 |
| md_5 | (not that I matter) :P | 09:58 |
| benonsoftware | o/ | 09:58 |
| head_victim | md_5: we all matter :) | 09:58 |
| head_victim | The meetings are best when we have as much input from as many people as possible | 09:59 |
| bradzo | hi head_victim ! I'm here | 09:59 |
| head_victim | Gday bradzo | 09:59 |
| jaddi27 | I am here head_victim | 09:59 |
| head_victim | Evening jaddi27 | 09:59 |
| bradzo | md_5: of course you matter | 09:59 |
| benonsoftware | jaddi27: Wasn't there a membership meeting? | 09:59 |
| head_victim | benonsoftware: quorum wasn't achieved. | 10:00 |
| jaddi27 | apologies for not being around much recently - lots of uni work to do | 10:00 |
| benonsoftware | Oh :( | 10:00 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: no worries, we're all volunteers | 10:00 |
| jaddi27 | Well there is no sagaci tonight, so I will be running the meeting | 10:00 |
| jaddi27 | everyone ready? | 10:00 |
| head_victim | Indeed :) | 10:00 |
| head_victim | I wasn't sure where sagaci would be in his program | 10:01 |
| * benonsoftware is ready | 10:01 | |
| jaddi27 | #startmeeting | 10:01 |
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| jaddi27 | #meetingtopic Ubuntu-AU May 2012 Team Meeting | 10:01 |
| md_5 | uh ok | 10:01 |
| jaddi27 | #chair head_victim | 10:01 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: head_victim jaddi27 | 10:01 |
| jaddi27 | Welcome everyone to the May 2012 Team meeting | 10:02 |
| bradzo | tnanks Joell | 10:02 |
| jaddi27 | Please say something during the meeting to record your attendance | 10:02 |
| bradzo | let me try again - Thanks Joel. | 10:02 |
| benonsoftware | o/ :P | 10:02 |
| jaddi27 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/389/detail/ | 10:02 |
| md_5 | hello! | 10:02 |
| jaddi27 | See that page for the agenda | 10:03 |
| benonsoftware | Not much on it | 10:03 |
| jaddi27 | bradzo, Welcome to the meeting | 10:03 |
| jaddi27 | benonsoftware, No, a fairly short one tonight | 10:03 |
| benonsoftware | Yep | 10:03 |
| * benonsoftware tries and remembers what happened in March | 10:03 | |
| jaddi27 | #topic Recap of April/March Meetings | 10:03 |
| benonsoftware | No April meeting | 10:03 |
| benonsoftware | It was supposed to be on Good Friday :) | 10:04 |
| head_victim | Well, where's a link to the team report, I saw it was updated | 10:04 |
| jaddi27 | There did not end up being an April meeting due to it being on the Easter weekend (or very close to it) | 10:04 |
| bradzo | I missed the actual facetoface at Kedron Park Hotel much to my dismay. | 10:04 |
| head_victim | bradzo: that's ok, we'll be having another more techy meeting in a few months | 10:04 |
| bradzo | excellent! | 10:04 |
| jaddi27 | April team report can be found at: | 10:05 |
| jaddi27 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/11/April | 10:05 |
| jaddi27 | oops, wrong april | 10:05 |
| * benonsoftware has too leave shortly | 10:05 | |
| benonsoftware | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/TeamReports/12/April | 10:06 |
| jaddi27 | Yes, that is it | 10:06 |
| head_victim | Evening gorilla | 10:06 |
| gorilla | Hi head_victim | 10:06 |
| benonsoftware | Hiya gorilla | 10:06 |
| jaddi27 | Going back to the March meeting | 10:06 |
| jaddi27 | http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-03-11-10.00.html | 10:06 |
| md_5 | lets see | 10:07 |
| head_victim | I had an action item and I failed | 10:07 |
| jaddi27 | The only point of action was: | 10:07 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim to email the ML about offering Ubuntu support to manufacturers | 10:07 |
| jaddi27 | However, it was not something that was on a time limit, and can easily be done at any time | 10:07 |
| md_5 | ML .... ? | 10:07 |
| gorilla | Yep, not the end of the world. | 10:08 |
| head_victim | #action head_victim to attempt to remember to kick off a ML thread about offering support contact to manufacturers. | 10:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: head_victim to attempt to remember to kick off a ML thread about offering support contact to manufacturers. | 10:08 |
| benonsoftware | md_5: Mailing Lists | 10:08 |
| gorilla | md_5: ML = Mailing list. | 10:08 |
| md_5 | ./stupid | 10:08 |
| head_victim | If anyone else starts it before me I won't be upset but I'll try to remember | 10:08 |
| gorilla | head_victim: We'll bring it up next month if not :-P | 10:08 |
| head_victim | md_5: not at all, using shorthand that isn't familiar is a great way to ostracise newer members. If anything isn't making sense please ask. | 10:09 |
| jaddi27 | We do seem to be picking up new members, which is certainly good to see | 10:09 |
| * gorilla agrees wholeheartedly with head_victim | 10:09 | |
| jaddi27 | Unless there is anything else for the recap, I think we shall move on to the next topic | 10:10 |
| jaddi27 | #topic UDS Roundup | 10:10 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, I'll let you take this one | 10:11 |
| jaddi27 | UDS: http://uds.ubuntu.com/ | 10:11 |
| head_victim | Did anyone catch any of the remote sessions? | 10:11 |
| benonsoftware | I did :P | 10:11 |
| head_victim | Anything to share? | 10:11 |
| gorilla | for those that are not aware... what's UDS? | 10:11 |
| jaddi27 | The Ubuntu Developer Summit | 10:12 |
| gorilla | jaddi27: thanks. | 10:12 |
| benonsoftware | The Ubuntu YOuth session in my mind was good (I believe sagaci was there in person) and heaps of progress will be made with it in the next few months | 10:12 |
| head_victim | gorilla: good point | 10:12 |
| jaddi27 | Basically a week of sessions related to the development of Ubuntu, especially around planning for the next version | 10:12 |
| head_victim | The UDS is held once a release (very early in the cycle) to set goals and plans for the next release. | 10:13 |
| benonsoftware | Audio of it all is at http://audio.ubuntu.com | 10:13 |
| jaddi27 | sagaci was at UDS this year, but would be on a plane at the moment from memory | 10:13 |
| head_victim | Evening dingus | 10:13 |
| bradzo | hi dingus | 10:13 |
| jaddi27 | Welcome to the meeting dingus | 10:13 |
| md_5 | sure thing head_victim | 10:13 |
| gorilla | Would like to see a brief "report" from sagaci.. sounds interesting. | 10:14 |
| md_5 | (was afk for a few min) | 10:14 |
| jaddi27 | I think he should give a report at the next meeting - he was definitely very excited about it | 10:15 |
| head_victim | Sounds like he had a bunch of fun | 10:15 |
| benonsoftware | Yeah | 10:15 |
| jaddi27 | Due to one of the sessions sagaci attended, he will be running a session to work on the Ubuntu Manual project next weekend | 10:16 |
| jaddi27 | Details are at http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/1772/detail/ | 10:16 |
| * benonsoftware was actually signed up to crew at the UDS | 10:16 | |
| * benonsoftware shall attend that | 10:17 | |
| head_victim | I'd encourage anyone vaguely interested in contributing but don't konw where to start to come along to that and just see what it's about | 10:17 |
| head_victim | It requires no special skills from what I understand. | 10:17 |
| * benonsoftware is signed up to do Index and Glossary | 10:18 | |
| md_5 | im away that weekend | 10:18 |
| jaddi27 | I think it will just be reading what is already there, and helping to improve the manual for Precise | 10:18 |
| gorilla | md_5: It'll happen again, one weekend will not be enough :-) | 10:18 |
| jaddi27 | Something that some people would find interesting from UDS: EA gave a talk about gaming on Ubuntu | 10:20 |
| jaddi27 | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/ea-delivers-talk-at-ubuntu-developer-summit/ | 10:20 |
| bradzo | i might be able to attend next sat 14:00 - 16:00 - how does it work? | 10:20 |
| jaddi27 | bradzo, Come online here to #ubuntu-au, and sagaci will guide everyone in what he would like to do | 10:20 |
| Tibor | Sounds good | 10:21 |
| bradzo | ok - i'll add it to my diary :) | 10:21 |
| jaddi27 | And a brief summary of development goals for the q-cycle (what will become Ubuntu 12.10) - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/uds-q-summary-bye-bye-unity-2d-hello-gnome-shell-spin/ | 10:22 |
| md_5 | just reading a recap 12.10 looks like it will be sweet | 10:22 |
| gorilla_ | sorry.. connection dropped out. | 10:22 |
| head_victim | Well feel free to write stories for ubuntu.org.au for these projects | 10:23 |
| head_victim | As long as they're Ubuntu related and being carried out by Australians it's all good news. | 10:23 |
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| jaddi27 | Anything else to add to the UDS discussion tonight? | 10:24 |
| jaddi27 | Doesn't look like it, so moving on to the next topic | 10:24 |
| bradzo | sorry Joel, no | 10:24 |
| head_victim | Sounds good :) | 10:25 |
| jaddi27 | #topic Release Party Catch Ups | 10:25 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, go ahead | 10:25 |
| head_victim | Mainly just to point out how slack I am | 10:25 |
| head_victim | Again, round ups of the events should be posted to ubuntu.org.au so I was going to call for volunteers from each event to write up a litte blurb | 10:26 |
| head_victim | Not too long and if you have photos attaching or linking them would be great. | 10:26 |
| * benonsoftware has to leave | 10:26 | |
| benonsoftware | Night all | 10:26 |
| head_victim | But from what I understand there was one in Brisbane, Sydney and Adelaide. Did I miss any? | 10:26 |
| head_victim | Night benonsoftware | 10:26 |
| jaddi27 | bye benonsoftware | 10:27 |
| md_5 | yeah no melbourne | 10:27 |
| * gorilla is no longer in Melbourne which doesn't help the situation. | 10:27 | |
| bradzo | i'd like to put my hand up to bring Ubuntu to people in the Forest Lake QLD area. So if anyone is interested.... | 10:28 |
| head_victim | Well for the next release I encourage you all you think about getting together, even if it's just 3 - 5 people and a coffee/beer it's still a good start. | 10:28 |
| head_victim | bradzo: great, in Brisbane we'll be holding a technical get together in a few months as well | 10:28 |
| head_victim | Listen out for it on the mailing list | 10:28 |
| Tibor | Forest Lake sounds good nice and close | 10:29 |
| head_victim | Well when the polls go out for when/where make your voice heard and join in :) | 10:29 |
| head_victim | As a team we're awesome at online events, less so at real world ones. | 10:29 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, bradzo - Was the next Brisbane technical meeting was going to be held in the city again, or somewhere like Garden City? I can't remember where was decided (or if it was properly set) | 10:29 |
| head_victim | So was anyone at any of the release parties with anything to add? | 10:29 |
| gorilla | head_victim: outside is scary! :-P | 10:30 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: more suburban I believe, somewhere with parking | 10:30 |
| jaddi27 | yes, I thought that was it | 10:30 |
| bradzo | we can do it at my place - big screen data projector, wifi access... big outdoor area, swimming pool. | 10:30 |
| bradzo | even if not members of public, would still like to invite bris bods over for an afternoon of pizza and beer... :) | 10:31 |
| bradzo | hi Tibor - you're most welcome. | 10:32 |
| Tibor | Thanks:) | 10:32 |
| head_victim | #action someone to start talking about tech get togethers in a few months on the mailing list | 10:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: someone to start talking about tech get togethers in a few months on the mailing list | 10:32 |
| bradzo | probably not in the next few weeks etc - too bloody cold for a swim, but there you go! | 10:33 |
| head_victim | I heard the Sydney release party went well , how was the Adelaide one? | 10:33 |
| ikt | That's what I'd like to know as well :P | 10:33 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, I second that way of writing an Action - nobody has to remember :) | 10:34 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: yeah, it's generally good to pin it down to an owner but in that case it was justified | 10:34 |
| jaddi27 | yep, that is another good reason for the recap section, so we can remember to do it in a month's time | 10:35 |
| head_victim | Yep | 10:35 |
| head_victim | So no one here was present for the Adelaide release party? | 10:35 |
| gorilla | head_victim: Adelaide is still catching up to the rest of the country. :-P | 10:36 |
| head_victim | gorilla: they're only 30 minutes behind mate! | 10:36 |
| jaddi27 | Who was organising the Adelaide party? It was only announced on the day it happened, so there might not have been many people at it | 10:36 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: yep | 10:36 |
| head_victim | Well either way, if anyone would like to write up any events they went to the ubuntu.org.au page is the place for it | 10:36 |
| head_victim | All you need to do is write the article and ping a website admin to publish it for you. | 10:37 |
| gorilla | head_victim: Some argue add about 50 years. | 10:37 |
| ikt | jaddi27, yeah that was the problem, I would've gone but didn't get the email till to late | 10:37 |
| bradzo | how does one do a release party? I'd be in for the next one! Or any one. :) | 10:37 |
| md_5 | subscribed to mailing list | 10:37 |
| jaddi27 | md_5, That is good to hear | 10:37 |
| ikt | bradzo, which city you in? | 10:37 |
| gorilla | bradzo: Pick a venue and announce it... no big organisation required. | 10:38 |
| jaddi27 | Just make sure you make an event on http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au with all of the details. If it is up there, other people such as head_victim, sagaci and myself will promote it through the mailing list, Facebook, twitter, identi.ca, IRC, etc | 10:39 |
| head_victim | Speaking of which, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/ContactUs could use some love | 10:40 |
| jaddi27 | (and now that Facebook has fixed its event system again, I can make events that invite everyone in the group) | 10:40 |
| head_victim | #action Release party attendees to ensure events are reported through the website | 10:41 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Release party attendees to ensure events are reported through the website | 10:41 |
| bradzo | oh cool then guys. I'm in Forest Lake, Brisbane. Would like to stay closer to home ... even at home (initially to meet other Ubuntu-ers) wifi access here, big screen etc - then we can organise something bigger? | 10:41 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, What would you like added to the contact page? I cleaned it up at the global jam, but can do more to it | 10:41 |
| head_victim | Well I think links to all the areas on the left hand side of the table would be good | 10:42 |
| head_victim | Also I think the admins are a bit out of date, | 10:42 |
| head_victim | For example, yourself and sagaci should be listed in a few more places now | 10:43 |
| jaddi27 | Yep, I can fix that up | 10:43 |
| head_victim | But also, I'm thinking, if there is a self updating link to show admins that would be better than manually listing them. | 10:43 |
| head_victim | For example the loco.u.c admins can all be listed with a launchpad link | 10:43 |
| jaddi27 | md_5, bradzo, and other new people to the meetings and group - Have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Members/NewMembers if you have not already done so to join the mailing list and launchpad groups (and just find out more about Ubuntu-AU in general) | 10:44 |
| md_5 | ikr if I joined the launchpad group | 10:45 |
| jaddi27 | Is there anything else for the meeting tonight, or shall I close it? This other discussion can continue outside of the meeting | 10:45 |
| md_5 | well I am now | 10:45 |
| gorilla | oh speaking of admin.. I'm a moderator of the Ubuntu Au facebook page but would like to pass the control to someone else... suggestions? | 10:45 |
| md_5 | Your request to join Ubuntu Australian Team is awaiting approval. | 10:45 |
| head_victim | gorilla: there's already a few | 10:46 |
| gorilla | jaddi27: Go for it. | 10:46 |
| jaddi27 | md_5, You are now a member - I just approved it | 10:47 |
| head_victim | gorilla: you don't need to resign if you want a leave of absence unless you would like to. | 10:47 |
| gorilla | head_victim: I need to reduce the number of emails that I am getting from it.. 3G internet isn't fun. | 10:47 |
| md_5 | ty jaddi27 | 10:47 |
| jaddi27 | ok. Thanks everyone for attending. The next meeting will be on June 10, at 8pm AEST (UTC+10) | 10:47 |
| jaddi27 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/391/detail/ | 10:47 |
| jaddi27 | #endmeeting | 10:48 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Sun May 13 10:48:00 2012 UTC. | 10:48 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-05-13-10.01.moin.txt | 10:48 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2012/ubuntu-au.2012-05-13-10.01.html | 10:48 |
| head_victim | gorilla: fair enough, if you want to step back up just sing out | 10:48 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: good call, | 10:48 |
| gorilla | head_victim: kk. I'll keep that in mind. | 10:48 |
| head_victim | If people want to discuss general stuff feel free to do so | 10:48 |
| gorilla | jaddi27: Well done. | 10:48 |
| head_victim | gorilla: thanks heaps for your efforts to date, they've been appreciated. | 10:48 |
| jaddi27 | gorilla, You can disable notifications for groups - I am one of the admins at the moment of that group, and get no emails whatsoever | 10:49 |
| md_5 | damn the ubuntu code of conduct should have ssh pubkeys | 10:49 |
| jaddi27 | So if you did want to keep doing it, but not get the emails, it should be possible | 10:49 |
| gorilla | jaddi27: Ahhh. that's an idea... not bad at all. | 10:49 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, I didn't realise you could get a list of the l.u.c admins. Do you know the link to do that, or the wiki code for it, or where to look? | 10:50 |
| gorilla | jaddi27: I'm happy to be in the background but need to reduce the interuptions. IRC can be ignored easily enough. | 10:50 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: it's just run off the launchpad admins from memory | 10:50 |
| jaddi27 | gorilla, Yep, I can easily understand that. It gets a bit much at times | 10:51 |
| jaddi27 | head_victim, Ok. I will have a look to see if I can auto generate a list, but have a feeling that l.u.c can do that by linking in to the launchpad database | 10:52 |
| head_victim | jaddi27: might be wrong, thought I'd seen it elsewhere though | 10:55 |
| bradzo | i'm going to upgrade from 10.10 desktop to 11.04 desktop tonight - is it interactive? can I pre-answer some questions before I go to bed? | 10:59 |
| head_victim | bradzo: I'd suggest backing up and installing 12.04 | 10:59 |
| head_victim | 11.10 is still a little buggy | 10:59 |
| head_victim | Well in my experience the Unity design in 12.04 is much better | 11:00 |
| ikt | agreed | 11:00 |
| bradzo | ok - so download the alternive iso and go from there? from 10.10 to 12.04? | 11:00 |
| head_victim | Nah you can't skip, so either backup and upgrade to 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04 or just backup and fresh install 12.04 and retrieve the data from the backup | 11:01 |
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| bradzo | that's what I thought about skipping. did an upgrade on another machine on Friday last - it asked me questions re some files I had edited. just wondered whether there were a way to tell the upgrader on the command line to accept my answers.. :) | 11:03 |
| head_victim | bradzo: either way, please, please please backup! | 11:04 |
| head_victim | I've spent the last 2 days trying to fix an update gone wrong without backups | 11:04 |
| bradzo | that's where it all falls down for me. I have one 500gb drive - what do I backup onto? :) I have an old 80gb USB drive, but... :) | 11:06 |
| bradzo | no matter! what's better than living on the edge eh? :) | 11:07 |
| gorilla | bradzo: At worst, back up the files that you change or make notes on what lines you changed... It's a good engineering practice. | 11:08 |
| bradzo | yes, true. | 11:09 |
| bradzo | oh well, here goes! | 11:09 |
| gorilla | bradzo: If we don't hear from your computer again, we know what happened. :-) | 11:10 |
| bradzo | LOL! | 11:10 |
| bradzo | its cool gorilla - my stuff *IS* backed up, so no great dramas this time. :) | 11:11 |
| gorilla | bradzo: ok :-) | 11:11 |
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