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blkperlcan someone set bug 870874 to triaged please00:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 870874 in at-spi2-core "LDAP user with automounted nfs homedir cannot login" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87087400:22
penguin42blkperl: Is it? I mean reading the comment set, does anyone really understand where the problem is?00:27
blkperlpenguin42: ok maybe your right, can you add an importance at least00:29
penguin42blkperl: Done, marked it high00:32
blkperlpenguin42: thank you00:32
penguin42blkperl: I mean why the heck does assistive technology interact with nfs homedirs?00:33
blkperlpenguin42: no clue... o.O00:40
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Conradzzwhat sup08:14
Conradzzanyone there?08:15
elgatonConradzz: yes?08:16
Conradzzmessing with linux again and sure enough problems08:17
Conradzzfull system freezes now on a fresh 12.04, 64 bit08:17
Conradzzwas running fine earlier08:17
Conradzzreading bug reports, and I'm guessing its pretty common08:18
ConradzzI swear lol, every few months I come back and give linux a try and I'm always met with resistance, I'm beginning to think I'm just not meant to use it08:19
elgatonConradzz: Don't know. Anyway, do you mind if we switch to the #ubuntu channel, as that is the most targeted?08:20
Conradzzsure08:20
alo21hi all11:15
alo21where can I find easy bug to fix in Ubuntu?11:16
rokr1Hi guys11:58
rokr1I have a problem11:58
rokr1with indicator-datetime-service memory leak11:59
penguin42would you like to tell us what the problem is?11:59
rokr1any solution available ?11:59
penguin42hmm seems to be bug 77234012:00
ubot2Launchpad bug 772340 in indicator-datetime "e-calendar-fact and indicator-datet consumes 2,6GB Memory" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77234012:00
penguin42rokr1: Can you confirm what version you have of package indicator-datetime ?12:00
rokr1I am on 64 bit got my system unconfigured due this bug since its a  server x64 running kernel 3.3.412:02
rokr1unfortunately I uninstalled all the ubuntu components12:02
rokr1and it seems that my apt went missing12:02
penguin42rokr1: Can you tell me the package version - dpkg -l indicator-datetime   I think12:03
rokr1oh okay a minute please12:03
rokr1oops my system is broken now12:04
rokr1I removed all ubuntu component that removed my apt and damaged dpkg12:07
rokr1I also had issues with geoip opening unwanted outbound connections to ubuntu server12:08
rokr1that was my major concern12:08
rokr1penguin4212:08
rokr1any advise12:08
penguin42if your dpkg is that broken then it sounds like you need a reinstall12:09
rokr1I did apt-get purge ubuntu*12:09
rokr1so did it removed all ubuntu plugins12:09
rokr1?12:09
rokr1I still have aptitude functional12:10
penguin42well you can reinstall what you removed if you know, but if you don't then it's probably easier to reinstall12:10
rokr1resolvconf and libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 are missing dependencies12:14
rokr1to get apt to work12:14
uxqHow do I attach an ubuntu-bug report (i.e., all the files) to an existing bug report using ubuntu-bug12:36
jtaylorapport-collect12:37
uxqhmm, only works if I am the originator12:38
penguin42when I did that yesterday it gave me a warning if I wasn't the originator but let me do it if I clicked yes12:41
rokr1I got apt working now12:44
rokr1manually installed the package12:44
uxqit only gives me the option of clicking "Close"12:45
uxqYou are not the reporter or subscriber of this problem report, or the report is a duplicate or already closed12:47
penguin42uxq: Interesting, the KDE frontend yesterday had 3 options, one of which was a Yes I really want to12:47
uxqI marked a bunch of bugs as duplicates, but the original bug doesn't have the backtrace12:48
uxqwill devs actually look at the duplicates?12:48
penguin42uxq: Possibly not unless you point them to it12:49
rokr1is the bug for geoip unity solved ? like it opens an unwanted outbound connection12:49
penguin42uxq: While you generally dupe to the earliest number, if actually one of the others has a much better report it's best to dupe to that12:49
penguin42uxq: Add a comment that says something like 'there are more interesting back traces in ....'12:50
uxqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/98051912:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 980519 in xorg "Random log off in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:51
uxqI did, can you mark the important as "High" ?12:52
uxqthis is unreal how many people are affected12:52
rokr1penguin42: I am installing the gnome-shell12:54
uxqdarn, I linked the dupe to the later one12:54
rokr1penguin42: with lightdm, installin them right now12:55
uxqmaybe some bug admins will clean it up for me, my bad12:55
uxqIs there a way to use apport to collect all info about my system, then I can create an attachment?  I'm not using kde12:57
uxqor is there a way I can use the KDE apport?12:57
uxq(without installing KDE)12:57
rokr1what does the indicator-datetime-service do ?12:58
jtayloruxq: see man apport-cli12:59
jtaylorsome of the options might do what you want12:59
jtaylor--save looks goo12:59
rokr1??13:05
rokr1anyone13:05
alo21hi all14:07
alo21could you tell an easy package?14:07
alo21Flannel: hi14:18
alo21can you help me?14:18
alo21please14:18
alo21done...14:20
alo21do not worry14:20
alo21epikvision: hi14:46
alo21epikvision: can you help me?14:47
epikvisionhello14:47
Resistancealo21:  whats up?14:47
alo21Resistance: I would like to fix bugs14:47
epikvisionalo21: yeah, Resistance is the better one to talk to14:47
epikvisionbut I could get you started14:48
Resistanceactually, on a day like today, one of the more senior bugsquad peoples or the MOTUs would be better to talk with14:48
* Resistance yawns14:48
* epikvision sighs14:48
epikvisionthat is true.14:48
epikvisionbe prepared, alo21, to do lots of reading14:48
Resistancebut that's because i've only been up for an hour xD14:49
* Resistance hasnt had his coffee yet14:49
alo21epikvision: Resistance I am reading at harvest.ubuntu14:50
alo21to find an easy bug... and it is ok14:50
txomon|homeI have asked this in #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu-testing, and hope someone can give any idea. When using mini.iso or netboot (i use the last one) which is the aim of putting the "Manual package installation" if it crashes the install?14:50
Resistanceugh, why didn't i copy my mozilla and firefox folders from my old drive >.>14:50
* Resistance is still getting his systems back online14:51
alo21epikvision: Resistance in the meanwhile i am reading this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix14:51
epikvisionalo21: are you very familiar with the command line?14:53
alo21epikvision: Resistance a little bit14:53
epikvisionhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:53
epikvisionbetter master the terminal before you get started14:53
Resistancei strongly agree14:54
epikvisionLet me quote philipballew for you14:54
Resistancethe terminal and CLI is one of a developer's most utilized, and most intimidating, tools14:54
epikvision"to know linux is to know the command line."14:54
epikvisionResistance: can the tasks of the command line be accomplished in an IDE like Eclipse or Geanie?14:55
epikvisionor that just isn't possible; one must embrace the command line for these tasks?14:55
epikvisiontasks = bug reporting, packaging, etc.14:56
Resistanceepikvision:  it can, but only for code, when you get into packaging and debdiffs, you should do that via command line only14:56
Resistancebug reporting is done on launchpad, packaging is done via CLI14:56
epikvisionahh14:56
Resistancecode fixing is done by [editor of your choice]14:56
epikvisionI c14:56
Resistancepersonally, i use GEdit or Kate for when fixing code, but that's because I don't like most IDEs14:56
Resistance(GEdit is the text editor in Ubuntu, Kate's the advanced text editor in Kubuntu)14:57
Resistancespeaking of which...14:57
* Resistance forgot to install Kate for his KDE environment14:57
Resistanceoops14:57
alo21epikvision: my main question is: Can I really edit source coude whatever I want to fix the bug?14:57
epikvisionof course14:57
Resistanceyou should do targetted editing to fix bugs14:58
Resistanceand then submit diffs to the bug for review14:58
alo21epikvision: directly from the source or via a patch?14:58
Resistancealo21:  via a diff / patch14:58
Resistancealo21:  and then you submit that to the bug, and a team will review it14:58
Resistanceit is of course possible bugs arent fixed by patches, in which case patches can be rejected, so unless you're certain your patch fixes a bug, don't submit it (my advice)14:58
Resistanceor have someone else test it before submitting14:58
Resistance(that's my tactics)14:59
epikvisionsounds sweet14:59
alo21Resistance: why wiki suggests me thhe command to join a patch "patch -p1 < ../bugfix.patch"14:59
alo21if I edit directrly from the source?14:59
Resistanceto include a patch in code, yes.  but that's for testing14:59
Resistancewhen you work on Ubuntu packages, you can do stuff that method, or you can include it in a patch in a package, but that's advanced stuff15:00
Resistancefor your testing, you should do that, yes.15:00
Resistancebut when you submit the patch, it may be included in the package as a patch so that at build-time for the package it will apply the patch15:00
* Resistance sees this more often than not15:00
* epikvision raises his hand15:01
epikvisionResistance: should the developer's environment have the next upcoming release in his computer?15:02
Resistanceepikvision:  in some way shape or form, yes.15:02
epikvisionlike the testiso thing?15:02
Resistancelemme give you an overview of where bugs get fixed:15:02
ResistanceWhen a new bug is filed, and a fix released, it is a candidate to be included/synced/updated in the latest development release, in this case Quantal15:02
ResistanceThe exception are upstream bugs, such as the one you ran into a few days ago epikvision15:03
epikvisionahh15:03
Resistancein which case those are fixed in the upstream program itself15:03
Resistanceand are included whenever that version shows up for Ubuntu15:03
ResistanceWhen testing programs to confirm bugs, and then fix bugs, you should test with the latest development release (because if the bug exists in Precise, it probably exists in Quantal)15:04
Resistancewhoopsies, i forgot to upload a patch for a bug...15:05
epikvisionwell, that was good stuff, Resistance15:05
epikvisionthanks.15:05
alo21epikvision: Resistance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bug/81040715:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 810407 in xine-lib "small typo in src/audio_out/audio_directx2_out.c:392" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:06
alo21here a bug15:06
alo21should I work in xine-lib (ubuntu) rigth15:07
alo21right*15:07
alo21?15:08
Resistancethis was upstreamed, it seems, and its sat there for almost a year upstream15:08
Resistancehttps://bugs.xine-project.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42215:09
ubot2bugs.xine-project.org bug 422 in Plugins / Audio Output "Typo in translatable string in directx audio output code." [Normal,Unconfirmed]15:09
Resistancea lot of bugs are upstreamed :P15:11
* Resistance yawns as he finally gets up to get a cup of coffee15:11
epikvisionupstreamed means the bug doesn't need to be touched.15:12
epikvision?15:12
epikvisionResistance: 'cuz it's taken care of.15:12
Resistanceit might need poked upstream, but usually means that it doesnt need immediate fixing in  ubuntu and needs fixing upstream (with the program developers, an dnot just Ubuntu)15:12
epikvisionahh, so it's the program developers who are more in charge15:13
Resistancefor example: say you found a bug in a webserver package, lets say nginx.  The bug is a critical bug, and exists on all versions of the program, including that built from source not in Ubuntu.15:13
Resistanceyou would file that bug against the package in ubuntu, but that would then be upstreamed to their bugtrackers for their devs to fix15:13
Resistanceand if you submitted a patch that fixed it, that'd go upstream as well15:14
Resistancebut that's just an example :P:15:14
Resistancethere's a whole bunch of guidelines for what needs upstreaming and what doesnt15:15
Resistanceand frankly, i'm not even sure 100% of which cases require upstreaming :P15:15
Resistanceokay, seriously, i need my coffee now15:15
* Resistance shall return15:15
* epikvision winks. 15:17
epikvisionResistance: I'll have to read a lot then.  There is much to learn.15:18
txomon|homecan anyone have a look on this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/92495915:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 924959 in chromium-browser "chromium browser not working in guest account" [Undecided,New]15:19
txomon|homeand this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-inetd/+bug/91966015:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 919660 in update-inetd "bootp doesn't have an updated man/xinetd boot script" [Undecided,New]15:20
txomon|homeand this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/97519715:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 975197 in linux "Can't avoid mounting in boot time" [Medium,Confirmed]15:20
Resistancetxomon|home:  what do you want us to look at it for?  in what context if i might ask15:49
txomon|homeResistance, what is to be done with them, 2 of them are Undecided, and the other, just confirmed15:50
Resistancetxomon|home:  the chromium browser one is filed against 11.10, i'd like them to test it in Precise, and I commented as such15:50
Resistancei'm checking the other two15:51
txomon|homeoki15:51
txomon|homeI am going to test in 12.0415:51
Resistancei've asked them to confirm in 12.04  too, i'd like more than one test ;p15:51
Resistancetxomon|home:  are these bugs you're filing?15:52
txomon|homeResistance, doesn't15:52
Resistancetxomon|home:  please answer my question ;P15:52
txomon|home?15:52
Resistanceare these bugs that you are filing?15:52
Resistancei.e. did you file these bugs you're referencing15:52
txomon|homethis are the bug I have filled, and I would like to be able to move them15:53
Resistanceah15:53
Resistancepost on that chromium browser bug the issue does not occur in Precise15:53
txomon|homeResistance, does15:53
Resistanceit does?15:54
Resistancedoes it or does it not occur in Precise?15:54
Resistanceyou cant have it both ways :p15:54
txomon|homeSorry, I meant that it doesn't work in precise, and that it does occur in precise xD15:55
Resistancedoesn't work, or doesn't occur?15:55
Resistancethere's a difference15:55
Resistanceif chromium doesnt work in precise that's a different bug15:55
txomon|homein guest account15:56
Resistanceif the same issue as you had in 11.10 is still occuring, where it does not load in the guest account, i'll test once i'm back on 12.0415:56
txomon|homedue to "Failed to move to ... PID " or sth like that15:56
Resistance(backing up my data right now)15:56
Resistancei'll check once i'm done backing up my 12.04 data15:56
txomon|homeoki15:56
Resistancepost on your bug that the same issue still occurs in Precise15:56
txomon|homeoki15:57
txomon|homeI am doing an apport-collect with the just installed lubuntu-core computer15:58
Resistanceyou dont really need a ton of apport bug stuff15:58
Resistancethe 'linux' one i dont think is valid against the 'linux' package15:59
Resistancemight be a samba problem15:59
txomon|homeResistance, it is a linux bug, because it doesn't skip mounting15:59
Resistancetxomon|home:  its not supposed to skip mounting, when in fstab15:59
txomon|hometrue sry15:59
Resistancefstab will always try to mount16:00
txomon|homeResistance, but it gives the option16:00
Resistanceif you dont want it to do that, remove it from fstab16:00
Resistancethen the bug is in handling mounting of samba shares16:00
Resistanceand not 'linux' because 'linux' is a package that contains a kernel (or rather is probably a metapackage that depends on the latest kernel)16:00
Resistanceso against 'linux' it's invalid16:00
txomon|homeif I put it in fstab, but the path is not /var but /mnt another guy told me it allowed to be skipped16:00
Resistanceit's marked as "confirmed" but i'm not sure16:01
txomon|homeResistance, linux package is not valid, I agree16:01
txomon|homethe idea is that in boot screen, it tells you it is waiting for network storage system, and if you want to skip it, you may press S (or G or whatever)16:02
txomon|homeand the problem is that it doesn't work16:02
Resistancetxomon|home:  its marked as confirmed, so i'll set it as Opinion16:02
Resistanceor get it set rather16:02
txomon|homedont know if that option shouldn't be there or not (as you said fstab is mandatory) but if you give the option to choose, the decision should be effective16:03
Resistancei'm going to forward that to the BugSquad mailing list16:06
Resistancebecause i want additional opinions16:06
penguin42I know things like swap (which are speicified in fstab) will display the skip message if it's not available and it works, so IMHO that's just the same and therefore it's just a bug if the skip doesn't work16:08
Resistanceagreed, but is it valid against the 'linux' package?16:11
Resistancehaving siad this i just sent this to the mailing list16:11
txomon|homeResistance, which is the package that mounts things specified in fstab?16:12
Resistancetxomon|home:  that's why i emailed the mailing list :P16:13
* Resistance isnt sure16:13
Resistancealso, i'm wanting additional opinions on the Validity of that bug16:13
penguin42is that mountall ?16:13
txomon|homeThis  man  page is part of the util-linux package and is available from   ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/.16:13
Resistance?16:13
txomon|homeman fstab16:13
txomon|homeso the package is util-linux instead of linux?16:14
Resistancei'd... wait on that one16:14
penguin42Resistance: 'linux' isn't that bad a bet - I don't know how the skip stuff is done; the actual mounting is done by the kernel so if the kernel isn't letting it be cancelled that's reasonable - so even if it's wrong it's not a bad guess16:15
Resistanceindeed16:15
Resistancehence, though, why i'd be looking for a secondary opinion anywyas ;P16:15
Resistanceanyways*16:15
txomon|homeand the bootp one, is it an opinion, bug or... how is that classified?16:17
penguin42looks like a bug from your description16:22
txomon|homeI have another bug that is making me crazy, it randomly comes/goes.16:25
txomon|homebut just sometimes (like 3 months intervals between apparitions)16:25
penguin42txomon|home: I assume there is some ubuntu policy of how to treat inetd/xinetd - and I'm not sure what it is, so I'm not sure what the right thing to do with that bootp one is16:27
Resistancepenguin42:  i'd forward em to the mailing list, or just leave the bugs16:48
Resistancei did confirm chromium-browser's bug though, not sure though if its 100% against chromium, or something else16:48
penguin42yeh I just left it16:48
Resistance(sorry i had to swap drives again)16:49
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blkperlcan someone set the importance of bug 932064 to high20:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 932064 in amanda "amtape crash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93206420:26
alo21hi all20:54
alo21mrand: hi.. can you help me please?21:25
Resistancealo21:  with?21:25
Resistanceoh getting started on bugs?21:25
alo21Resistance: hi...21:26
alo21Resistance: some had reported a typo bugs21:26
alo21bug*21:26
Resistancewhere?21:26
alo21https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/80786121:26
ubot2Launchpad bug 807861 in inkscape "typo in ../src/widgets/toolbox.cpp:4685" [Low,Fix committed]21:26
alo21Resistance: some one has committed a fix yet21:27
Resistance!info inkscape precise21:27
alo21but not for both21:27
Resistancebleh, it doesnt listen here21:27
* Resistance forgot21:27
Resistancealo21:  its committed upstream21:27
Resistanceonce inkscape 0.49 is included in Ubuntu the "traiged" in ubuntu becomes fix released21:28
Resistancei am probably assuming that inkscape hasnt been released as 0.49 stable21:28
* Resistance should check21:28
Resistanceyeah, 0.49 isnt released yet21:28
Resistanceand therefore does not yet exist in Ubuntu21:29
Resistanceso if/when 0.49 gets included in Ubuntu, that will become Fix Released21:29
Resistanceand since its triaged, there's nothing you can do21:29
alo21Resistance: ok, thanks21:29
Resistance(because its an upstream-handled bug)21:29
alo21Resistance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/923932 here21:30
ubot2Launchpad bug 923932 in libreoffice "LibreOffice icons classic" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:30
alo21there is a bug that reguards two package21:30
alo21packages*21:31
Resistancethere's a lot of bugs that are connected to multiple packages21:31
Resistance:P21:31
Resistanceheck, i've even handled a few21:31
alo21and how does it work?21:31
alo21Should I check in wich package is the bug?21:32
Resistancenope, if it says 'confirmed' then its apparent in both, but i dont know enough about the packages to fix it21:32
Resistanceif you're unsure how to help debug packages, I suggest you ask in #ubuntu-motu on how to get started in locating bugs in programs21:33
alo21Resistance: thank you :)21:35
Resistancebecause even though these're bite-sized bugs, some of em can be tricky to find solutions for21:36
Resistanceheck, the PHP5 bug i worked on which really was a feature request took me a while to locate the file to change :P21:36
Resistanceand that's a pretty decent-sized package/program21:36
alo21is very difficult for me finding new bugs without a fix commitee, which is assigned to nobody21:38
Resistancewell the key is to see whether its upstream or not21:38
alo21Resistance: how=21:38
alo21?21:38
Resistanceif its got something else tied to it and its *not* a package (i.e. not "something (ubuntu)") then its probably been forwarded upstream21:39
alo21Resistance: I should check all bugs to find the one which is not in upstream21:40
Resistancei'd recommend just sticking to the bitesized ones21:41
Resistancelook for ones that arent upstream21:41
Resistanceor ones that are not committed upstream21:41
Resistance(because you can still provide a patch to the upstream)21:41
alo21Resistance: ok... I have to go... bye21:41

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