[05:14] <Pocetnica> jel neko budan_
[05:14] <Pocetnica> ?
[05:14] <Pocetnica> potrebna mi je mala pomoć
[05:14] <Pocetnica> :D
[05:25] <joostvb> добро јутро
[05:28] <Pocetnica> dobro jutro
[05:37] <joostvb> Pocetnica: you can burn the iso to a cd and boot from the cd
[05:37] <Pocetnica> i bought cd and download iso file, do I need ONLY to write the iso file on the cd? and to begin instalation
[05:37] <Pocetnica> ok,
[05:37] <joostvb> da!
[05:37] <Pocetnica> and one more question
[05:38] <Pocetnica> how big partition needs for swap, /, and /home?
[05:38] <joostvb> the installer gives you a default suggestion
[05:38] <joostvb> just use that
[05:39] <Pocetnica> well, last installer didn't offer me anything,
[05:39] <joostvb> it could be the default is to use just one partition which holds both / and /home
[05:39] <joostvb> hu?
[05:39] <joostvb> which iso did you use?
[05:39] <Pocetnica> only i had from installer was a warning, that I need partition for /
[05:39] <Pocetnica> 11.04
[05:40] <joostvb> o! maybe if you choose not "automatic partitioning" but choose "manual" or something
[05:40] <Pocetnica> ok, now I will try with 12.04 and a new cd
[05:40] <joostvb> what i use: swap: same size as my fysical RAM, or maybe the double of my RAM
[05:41] <joostvb> and /home: it depends
[05:41] <joostvb> / and /home: it depends
[05:41] <Pocetnica> so will tell you after, how it was
[05:41] <Pocetnica> i put 10Gb for /
[05:41] <joostvb> on my main desktop machine, /home is 10 GB
[05:41] <Pocetnica> 2Gb for /home
[05:41] <Pocetnica> aham ok, i will change that
[05:42] <joostvb> Pocetnica: wait!
[05:42] <joostvb> Pocetnica: how big is your disk?
[05:42] <joostvb> 10 Gb for / sounds reasonable
[05:42] <Pocetnica> 500GB
[05:43] <joostvb> o!
[05:43] <Pocetnica> but 100gb is for C windows,
[05:43] <joostvb> aha
[05:43] <Pocetnica> and 100GB is for D, for data
[05:43] <Pocetnica> and 100GB is for ubuntu
[05:43] <joostvb> maybe take 50 GB for /, 250 GB for /home
[05:43] <joostvb> only 100 GB for ubuntu?
[05:44] <joostvb> then 20 GB for /, 80 GB for /home
[05:44] <joostvb> or, you could do:
[05:44] <joostvb> 20 GB for /, 20 GB for /home
[05:44] <joostvb> and 60 GB for ubuntu-data
[05:44] <FiReSTaRT> fun and games with partitioning lol
[05:44] <Pocetnica> ok, and how much i need for swap?
[05:45] <joostvb> o shit, forgot about that :)
[05:45] <joostvb> how much RAM you have?
[05:45] <FiReSTaRT> easy partitioning setup: ram x 1.5 for swap (probably overkill)
[05:45] <Pocetnica> 3GB
[05:45] <FiReSTaRT> so 4.5
[05:45] <joostvb> FiReSTaRT: yes
[05:45] <FiReSTaRT> im lazy when it comes to partitioning.. i do 6 for swap, 30 for / and the rest for /home
[05:45] <Pocetnica> so i need /  /home swap and the rest of hard disk is for ubuntu data
[05:46] <joostvb> 20 GB / , 20 GB /home , 5 GB swap, 55 GB ubuntu-data
[05:46] <Pocetnica> ok, then i go to install it, and i hope i will success, because it's my 4th time,
[05:46] <Pocetnica> thank you a loooot :)
[05:46] <joostvb> i have separate /var , /usr , /opt , ....
[05:47] <joostvb> but you don't want that...
[05:47] <joostvb> Pocetnica: good luck!
[05:47] <FiReSTaRT> yeah overkill for a desktop system
[05:47] <joostvb> yup
[05:47] <Pocetnica> well, i started to learn administration of linux in school, so i will learn about details
[05:47] <joostvb> Pocetnica: just try and you'll learn
[05:47] <FiReSTaRT> ahh ok in that case you do wanna do a bit of reading and even get a bit pedantic about your setup
[05:48] <FiReSTaRT> but if you're getting into the admin side, you should play with centos mostly and a bit of debian
[05:48] <Pocetnica> where i can find centos?
[05:48]  * joostvb uses debian
[05:48] <FiReSTaRT> GIYF - google is your friend :P
[05:49] <FiReSTaRT> im guessing the first hit will be for the main project page
[05:49] <joostvb> freebsd <- interesting too
[05:49] <Pocetnica> but my professor use ubuntu, and in lab circumstances we also use ubuntu
[05:49] <joostvb> Pocetnica: first try ubuntu
[05:49] <FiReSTaRT> interesting but not what i'd call linux and not for a production system
[05:49] <FiReSTaRT> ok in that case play with ubuntu on account of having an idiot professor
[05:49] <Pocetnica> ok joostvb  I will go now,
[05:50] <joostvb> FiReSTaRT: no, freebsd definately is not linux :)
[05:50] <Pocetnica> so bye and thanks again
[05:50] <joostvb> c u later
[05:50] <FiReSTaRT> laku noc :)
[05:50] <joostvb> dobro jutro
[05:50] <Pocetnica> laku nooć :)
[05:50] <FiReSTaRT> dobro i ovde je recimo jutro
[05:50] <FiReSTaRT> ali ne kapiram, uce linux administraciju na ubuntu masinama?!
[05:51] <FiReSTaRT> mislim ubuntu je lep operativni sistem za desktop sisteme dogod koristis neko drugo desktop okruzenje
[05:51] <FiReSTaRT> ali za servere....................
[05:51] <joostvb> ubuntu je linux
[05:52] <joostvb> there is ubuntu for servers too
[05:52] <FiReSTaRT> jeste ali su ga vala naduvali sa kojekakvim govnarijama... dobro nije tako los uvod u debian
[05:52] <FiReSTaRT> yes there is... haven't met anyone who actually uses it :D
[05:52] <joostvb> hehehe
[05:53] <joostvb> what does "govnarijama" mean?
[05:53] <FiReSTaRT> about 80% centos, 20% debian ime
[05:53] <FiReSTaRT> crap :P
[05:53] <FiReSTaRT> bloat
[05:53] <joostvb> i c
[05:53] <FiReSTaRT> and don't even get me started on unity lol
[05:54] <joostvb> ye, that was a nice experiment....
[05:54] <joostvb> i believe it got debian a lot more users
[05:54] <FiReSTaRT> that's why my main desktop system is running mint.. i'm alternating b/w xfce and cinnamon
[05:54] <joostvb> i use fvwm
[05:54]  * joostvb is old
[05:55] <FiReSTaRT> got one virtual machine running lubuntu.. not bad actually.. only to connect to a vpn, run nx client and run twinkle - all i need for work :P
[05:55] <joostvb> you mean "ubuntu" ?
[05:55] <FiReSTaRT> lubuntu - ubuntu with lxde
[05:55] <joostvb> a, haven't heard about that one before
[05:56] <FiReSTaRT> pretty decent.. very gnome2-like.. openbox based
[05:56] <FiReSTaRT> a lot lighter than xfce
[05:56] <joostvb> fvwm is probably lighter....
[05:56] <FiReSTaRT> xfce is getting a little too bloated for what it is, too
[05:56] <FiReSTaRT> more than a little ;)
[05:58] <joostvb> fvwm: rocking since 1993
[05:58] <FiReSTaRT> quite possible, but lxde's still light on its feet
[05:58] <joostvb> :)
[05:58] <FiReSTaRT> lol.. i only got into gnu/linux in 2008... bought a lappy and it came with vista.. enough said :P
[05:59] <FiReSTaRT> ok time to rejoin my wife before she files a police report for a missing person :)
[05:59] <FiReSTaRT> good night/morning :P
[05:59] <joostvb> working on unix since 1995 i guess, debian since 1999
[05:59] <joostvb> c u later!
[06:25] <Pocetnica> joostvb:
[06:25] <Pocetnica> are you there?
[06:25] <Pocetnica> je li neko budan? :)
[06:26] <Pocetnica> olujicz: Milos_SD pymort2 ubuntulog2 opetnaistommestu meka lubotu3 ivanblago Beretta021
[06:27] <ivanblago> svi su budni verovatno
[06:27] <Pocetnica> ivane
[06:27] <Pocetnica> moože pomoć'
[06:27] <ivanblago> šta inače ljudi radi nedeljom u ovo vreme
[06:27] <ivanblago> može
[06:28] <Pocetnica> kada narezujem iso fajl, preko power iso, da li označim Current compilation (on the fly burning) ili image file?
[06:28] <ivanblago> image file
[06:28] <Pocetnica> hoće li se raspakovati?
[06:28] <Pocetnica> pošto sammalopre narezala iso fajl i kaže da nema boot i da ne može da pokrene disk
[06:29] <ivanblago> nema boot?
[06:29] <ivanblago> tako kaže
[06:29] <ivanblago> čekaj
[06:29] <Pocetnica> znači idem add pa dodam ubuntu iso, zatim označim, image fajl i kliknem burn?
[06:30] <ivanblago> nikada nisam koristio power iso ali trebalo bi da je tako, sačekaj naći ću ti na netu neki tutorijal za to
[06:31] <Pocetnica> ajde
[06:31] <ivanblago> http://versatile1.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/how-to-use-poweriso-to-burn-iso-files/
[06:32] <ivanblago> imaš i video tu
[06:35] <Pocetnica> e pa ne mogu,
[06:35] <Pocetnica> zato što sam već iskoristila disk
[06:35] <Pocetnica> može li to preko usba?
[06:35] <Pocetnica> zadnje pare što sam imala sam dala na disk jutros
[06:37] <Pocetnica> ivanblago:
[06:37] <Pocetnica> jesi tu?
[06:38] <ivanblago> preko usb-a može
[06:38] <ivanblago> ali ne pomoću powerisoa
[06:39] <ivanblago> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:14] <nikolja> dobro jutro
[08:12] <Pocetnica> instalirala sam ubuntu server umesto desktopa
[08:12] <Pocetnica> ima li šanse da se pokrene išta osim stranice gde se ukucavaju kodovi?
[08:13] <Pocetnica> ivanblago: jesi još uvek tu?
[08:14] <Pocetnica> ili bilo ko, ko bi mogao da mi odgovori na pitanje?
[10:20] <sasa_> instalirao conky na linux mint 12 lxde, ala nikako ne mogu da program plkrenem sa pokretanjem sistema,
[10:21] <sasa_> kako da dodam tu opciju
[10:21] <sasa_> da se conky smesti u autostart programe
[13:31] <Icy_blue> za pola sata predavanje o LaTeX-u #lugons-classroom
[16:04] <Stefan2142> windows for life! B|
[20:00] <lebron> Pozdrav. Kladio sam se sa dugarom oko toga može li se preko Skype servisa saznati nečija IP adresa,po mom mišljenju nije, jer se komunikacija između 2 korisnika ne vrši direktno već preko servera(?), grešim li?
[21:51] <orpheustar> dobro vece
[21:54] <orpheustar> trebam pomoc ako neko moze
[21:56] <orpheustar> oko instalacije 12..04 LTS
[22:34] <orpheustar> pozdrav
[22:34] <orpheustar> ima li nekoga :) ?
[22:40] <orpheustar> zna li neko kada se radi install 12.04 a imam sad 11.10 da li pri cistoj instalaciji moguce sacuvati /home netaknut i podatke na njemu?
[22:46] <orpheustar> nikad ne znam kad ovde ima nekoga ili ne :)
[22:51] <orpheustar> dakle nista