[00:13] Hello, I am trying to install 12.04 on a Raid0 array and I get the following error: "Executing 'grub-install /dev/mapper/isw_jddjaejcg_ARRAY1' failed." [00:13] Can anybody help? [00:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html [00:58] heh === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance [05:30] has anyone ever experienced problems installing phpmyadmin and related packages such as php and apache2 and mysql? i did the mysql and php prior to apache2 actually, and i suspect it messed something up === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance [05:34] Gallomimia, tasksel -> LAMP Server [05:36] er... looks scary. what are the other things that are checked? basic ubuntu server and openssh server. should i uncheck them? [05:39] still no admin [05:51] Gallomimia: what problems are u having ? [05:51] ah, i think my first problem is i don't know wtf i'm doing :/ [05:51] but what i've been trying to get working is phpmyadmin [05:52] have u seen this page? [05:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin [05:52] does "dpkg -l phpmyadmin" show it installed? [05:52] no i'll give that a read first thanks [05:52] np [05:52] hm it does [05:53] i have some conf swimming to do i think. [05:53] does /etc/apache2/apache2.conf have "Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" [05:53] apres parachute i will check [06:09] pdtpatrick: that was it exactly. i was lead to believe there were all sorts of scripts to make sure that happened. so certain i ran a bunch of them... [06:09] so ur all set now ? [06:10] nah i have to spelunk for where i want to accept any domain name or expressly require one.. [06:11] gotta be 10 years since i did apache cfg's [06:11] i c [06:11] wasn't even version 2. i better read the whole damn manual again :) [06:14] hey pdtpatrick i really appreciate the handholding. i don't know how i get by without irc :/ [06:15] np - Glad to have helped === Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:41] Hey, anyone around? [10:41] Can't seem to be able to send mails from my server, although I can receive them perfectly fine [10:48] hi [10:53] I am using 12.04 on which vmbuilder fails with [10:53] Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/tmpoqZJXv mount -t proc proc /proc [10:54] did anyone experienced anything similar ? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:52] Hi, has anyone come accross a server simetimes auto reboot, and lighttpd without reponse after start about one hour, and sometimes the server didn't reponse for all services like kernel panic, but can not find any message about this in /var/log/* ? [13:55] you wouldn't [13:56] you will need to attach a remote debugger to the server in question [13:56] contact ubuntu support for details on how to perform this if you are unaware [13:58] remote debugger? [14:17] When I log into my 12.04 server, it says "6 packages can be updated". I run sudo apt-get upgrade and I get this "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-server, linux-image-server, linux-server. 3 not upgraded" [14:17] Is sudo apt-get upgrade not the command? [14:19] sometimes you need to mannuly sudo apt-get install them [14:19] no [14:19] you need apt-get full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade [14:20] the normal upgrade leaves those out as they require the installation of new packages [14:20] Ah, I didn't know that. [14:21] full-upgrade pulled invalid operation, dist-upgrade worked. Thanks. [14:48] can anyone explain me what is the aim of putting a "manual package selection" entry in the mini iso install, if it makes the installation fail ? (doesn't configure some packages correctly) [14:48] how can I fill a bug against that? [14:51] txomon|home, that's not really a bug, manual package selection is an advanced option, and manually selecting the wrong packages can result in a broken system [14:51] indeed [14:51] !crosspost | txomon|home [14:51] txomon|home: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [14:51] qman__, I marked lubuntu-core [14:51] and just that [14:52] nothing more [14:52] in that case, everything that lubuntu-core does not depend on, was not selected [14:52] I marked "Openssh-server" "Lubuntu minimal installation" and "Manual package installation" [14:52] undoubtedly leaving a lot of stuff missing [14:52] then aptitude came to me [14:53] and I pressed g [14:53] qman__, dependencies where satisfied [14:54] you can replicate that [14:54] was something wrong with xorg, but dont know exactly what [14:56] more over, aptitude is designed in theory to satisfy dependencies, so unless you select incompatible packages, it should not crash [14:56] txomon|home, my point is, you didn't select other needed things [14:57] qman__, do we agree that when you select something "Selecting Installation Components" dependencies are going to be satisfied? [14:58] txomon|home, yes, but just because dependencies are satisfied, doesn't mean your system will work as intended [14:58] and that if you want to, apart from that, select manually one more package (for example git), you have to check the "Manual package installation" [14:58] qman__, ... git package makes crash? [14:59] _any_ package makes crash!? [14:59] moreover, if you don't touch anything, it crashes? [15:00] its a nonsense [15:01] Is there a 12.10 daily build for server? [15:01] 12.10...? [15:01] Quantal? [15:01] Yeah. [15:01] !12.10 [15:01] Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1 [15:01] ^ [15:01] having said this i havent seen any quantal isos yet, but i'm not exactly looking actively [15:02] * Resistance points at the system he's slowly restoring from an old drive [15:02] Resistance, any idea on my question? [15:02] I was just curious really, have no real need for it. [15:02] Thanks Resistance [15:03] txomon|home: i think qman__ is a better candidate to help you [15:04] oki [15:04] i'm strongly busy trying to get data off a mostly-crupted drive atm [15:06] qman__, I am once more in the [15:06] fuck ESC == enter [15:07] !language | txomon|home [15:07] txomon|home: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [15:07] component installation menu [15:08] IdleOne, I pressed a key that screw up the last 10 minutes of my life [15:10] txomon|home: nevertheless [15:10] txomon|home: there's no excuse for bad behaviour. [15:10] we try to keep this a "family friendly" environment [15:10] ok, sorry [15:10] txomon|home: Well, in that case, to hell with the community guidelines. [15:22] need help please! [15:22] !ask [15:22] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:24] need help about port nating please [15:29] be more specific, say what you want to do, which resources have you found. And you can also formule a question === Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia === semiosis_ is now known as semiosis [16:39] pdtpatrick: why might i now be seeing this message? ssh: connect to host ***** port 22: Connection refused after last night's installation i feel like ssh has been halted. need a way to turn that back on [16:39] make sure ssh is running [16:40] on the server you are trying to connect to .. you can run "dpkg -l openssh-server" to see if it installed. And also check whether port 22 is listening "netstat -lanp | grep :22" [16:40] if it isn't installed, then install the package. If it is installed and not listening, then run "sudo service ssh restart" [16:41] ah yes. how am i to do this when i have no ssh access [16:42] use a lights out card [16:42] the server is 4000 miles away. YOU use a lights out card [16:42] then more fool you for putting yourself in that position [16:42] pretty sure i managed to uninstall it last night using tasksel [16:43] Gallomimia: is this for a business? [16:43] not.... really [16:43] oh, so it is [16:43] yes but it's not a business [16:43] it's just a club [16:43] so then you have no excuse; you should have a server with an iLO / IPMI card [16:43] DRAC etc, whatever. === Vivek is now known as Guest734 [16:43] expecting to manage a server remotely without a lights out card shows naivety of the highest order [16:44] its a rented vds. there won't be too much trouble i think [16:45] VDS? [16:45] what is this? [16:45] virtual dedicated server [16:46] oh, a VPS [16:46] so you'll have lights out capability then === Guest734 is now known as Vivek [16:52] any decent VPS provider gives you a 'local' shell recovery option [16:52] godaddy isn't a decent VPS provider, and they're the only one I know of that calls it VDS === Guest67073 is now known as Ursula === Ursula is now known as Guest37794 === Guest37794 is now known as Ursula_ === Ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [17:08] Gallomimia: so basically, message is, don't buy cheap [17:09] i actually dont control the account under which it's rented. so i'll ask that guy what options there are [17:09] actually, some dedicated server / VPS providers use a cheaper alternative to iLO/IPMI cards: PXE booting of a rescue image... ;) [17:10] yeah, that's fine too as long as it works [17:11] there's plenty of options with much better service in the same price range as godaddy, and there's plenty of cheaper ones with the same or better service [17:11] they're selling on the name alone [17:11] since when godaddy has a good name ? ;) [17:11] haha [17:11] all those big titted girls in white t shirts did that [17:12] I always new them as the place to go to when you want to be ripped off [17:12] certainly not with good business practices, customer service, or community engagement [17:12] !topic [17:12] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [17:12] knew them* [17:12] bah [17:12] sorry [17:12] so back on topic the bug in tasksel is awesome. [17:12] * Resistance needs to dig around the factoids again [17:13] "no i don't want to install something called openssh. ssh works fine" turns into " remove all ssh servers from the system" [17:13] not a bug, tasksel shows already selected tasks [17:13] ^ [17:13] if you deselect something, that means remove it [17:13] yep [17:13] openssh is required for SSHd [17:13] (ssh daemon, aka SSH server) [17:14] or rather... the package openssh-server is needed... last i checked, anyways [17:14] yes, that's the provided and supported sshd [17:14] well, there are at least 3 other ssh server implementations available in Ubuntu, I think ;) [17:15] but openssh-server is supported & most used [17:15] OTOH, is tasksel still supported? [17:16] outside of initial install maybe? [17:19] not sure [17:19] I heard that it was being deprecated but it's still in there and it still works [18:09] in iptables / ip6tables, can IPv4 rules be applied to IPv6? [18:09] depends on the rule, I'd say. [18:10] Nafallo: take, for example. this IPv4 rule: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 2222 [18:10] -j ACCEPT [18:10] blah, evil keyboarxd [18:10] Nafallo: take, for example. this IPv4 rule: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 2222 -j ACCEPT [18:11] would that rule be able to be applied to ip6tables? [18:11] looks fine to me. [18:11] why don't you just try it somewhere? [18:11] because iptables is on the fritz locally [18:12] (segv-ing, i think its not completely installed or something) [18:12] and if i'm using iptables-persistent, where do i store the rules? [18:12] * Resistance likes persistent rules :P [18:16] Resistance: does your FritzBox device have (proper) support for IPv6? [18:17] most home routers have no or only broken support for IPv6, unfortunately [18:18] you might be able to fix that using OpenWRT or such (if the device has enough RAM & CPU power) [18:19] JanC: my home network doesn't support IPv6, but the University networks do [18:19] so i need Ipv4 and IPv6 rules [18:19] and i need em to match :P [18:25] I have drupal installed at /var/www/drupal and 7 virtual sites symlinked at /var/www/drupal/sites; 6 work but the one virtual with the same name as the server throws an error; [18:25] HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request. [18:26] is that because the virtual has the same name as the server? [18:28] Resistance: by "on the fritz", ar you referring to a Fritzbox device (something quite common in Europe), or something else like saying it's broken...? ;) [18:28] JanC: sigsegvs [18:28] <Resistance> because iptables is on the fritz locally [18:28] <Resistance> (segv-ing, i think its not completely installed or something) [18:29] to show you the logs of exactly what i said [18:30] Resistance: what I mean: is your PC segv'ing or a home router? [18:31] JanC: the system itself, PC [18:31] the router isnt using iptables :P [18:31] (because the router's a linksys entry-level router and i really dont have any method to control what software it uses) [18:31] "Fritz" happens to be the brand name of a range of linux-based broadband routers in continental Europe ;) [18:31] iptables is part of the kernel and is always installed [18:31] tarvid: its glitching up, with segvs, on here [18:32] JanC: lol, 'fritz' is American slang for "It's not behaving" [18:32] * Resistance should have been more precise [18:33] Resistance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRITZ!Box ;) [18:33] heh [18:33] JanC: before this router, i had a server box sitting as the gateway, but then it went and fizzled (it literally caught fire because there's not enough AC here at this location) [18:34] AC = Air Conditioning [18:34] ugh [18:35] yep, that wasnt a fun day [18:35] Resistance: did you try using ufw ? [18:36] JanC: nope, dont like UFW. not precise enough for my uses of iptables. [18:36] (it should do the right thing for IPv6, after you enable it in the ufw config [18:36] ah [18:36] JanC: i think i'll just reinstall, this might be a botched upgrade-in-place causing iptables to explode [18:37] I'd say iptables exploding is a security issue no matter what [18:37] so please report it before doing a e-install [18:37] yeah, but it didnt do this on my clean-install Ubuntu 12.04 desktop [18:37] re-install [18:37] so i know the iptables works normally [18:37] doesn't matter [18:37] it should never ever segfault [18:37] * Resistance doesnt have the time to report this as a bug right now [18:37] indeed [18:38] but i've had this happen with most programs 85% of the upgrade-in-place upgrades [18:38] this is why i prefer clean installs :P [18:38] maybe make a backup of your config and report from a VM in the future, or something [18:38] mhm [18:39] actually, i dont think its segv=ing on iptables at all... [18:39] * Resistance just noticed a new issue [18:39] even if i type 'sh' it segv's [18:39] * Resistance wonders if this is a really botched upgrade in place [18:39] Resistance: my main system has been upgraded in place since 2006 or so ;) [18:39] Resistance: broken glibc or such? ;) [18:39] JanC: well this is the sandbox environment, not the production server :P [18:39] might be [18:40] (the production server's still Lucid) [18:40] might be some plugin too [18:40] hmm [18:40] could be [18:40] try to find that out [18:41] might do that, but as this sandbox needs to be online in Precise to test the migrations from Lucid to Precise that were ordered from someone far above my pay-grade, i have to get this operational by work-day tomorrow [18:41] (so before morning otmorrow) [18:41] pam, nsswitch, etc. all support plugins that might cause issues possibly [18:42] so if your server has anything custom... [18:42] shouldn't, apart from hardware [18:42] which might be a breaking point [18:43] bugs can be subtle & weird [18:44] i know right? [18:44] * Resistance is on the BUgSquad and has some really oddball bugs in his triage duties [18:44] I remember there was a bug in Ubuntu that only showed up on certain thursdays or something like that, for example ;) [18:44] haha, you sure must have seen weird stuff then [18:46] mhm [18:46] few things that were caused by the leftovers from Debian that were synced to Precise but never checked [18:46] :P [18:46] s/few/and a few/ [18:48] the bug I'm talking about was because of the way OOo created PDF files triggered a bug in CUPS (or ghostscript?) on certain file creation dates, or something like that ;) [18:49] ah lol [18:49] the people who ever found that bug should get a medal for it ;) [18:49] that's a wierd one :P [18:49] and i agree [18:49] although i've got a few bugs in my day [18:49] and gotten a few feature-request bugs pushed into Debian :P [18:50] * Resistance refers to the patch he made that closed an LP and a Debian bug/feature request to have PHP use unix sockets by default instead of listening on 127.0.0.1:9000 [18:50] and it was included in Debian :P [18:50] nice [18:50] well... for the 5.4.x series [18:50] (which isnt in Ubuntu yet, but should be) [18:50] (since 5.3.x is semi-oldish) [18:50] maybe you can request it for -backports? [18:51] nah, i'm talking for Quantal [18:51] i've got a version of 5.4 in a PPA [18:51] but QUantal should update [18:51] s/PPA/private repository/ [18:51] if it's in Debian, it should go into Quantal automatically [18:52] its not in Sid though [18:52] last i checked at least [18:52] can ubottu check debian repos? [18:53] you can check yourself on packages.debian.org ;) [18:53] yeah, but i'm lazy :P [18:53] (and i'm upgrading ffox plugins) [18:54] testing: 5.4.0-3 [18:54] unstable: 5.4.3-1 [18:55] imo that should have been included in Precise, but it wasnt included [18:58] well. now i have to get Windoze back on this system to do the sharepoint dev stuff i have to do >.> [18:58] * Resistance shall return later [18:58] whoops wrong channle sorry === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [19:58] anyone been able to figure out the new DNS settings in 12.04 LTS ? [19:58] I am having a nightmare.. [19:58] the dns-search string in the /etc/network/interface file is completely ignored [19:59] really really frustrated with 12.04 server... [20:00] anyone here ? [20:00] are you using network-manager? [20:01] no.. its' the server [20:02] I do not understand how ubuntu knows that I am running a dns server on 127.0.0.1 without any entries in interfaces file, or resolv.conf [20:02] somehow it knows!!!.. very frustrating. [20:03] and I cannot get ubuntu to honor the "search xzy.local xzy.com" lines in resolv.conf [20:03] complete frustrated.. [20:03] yeah, you said that [20:03] going to have to switch to debian soon and sumd ubuntu. [20:03] "dump ubuntu" [20:04] .local is used by mDNS [20:05] if you have Avahi installed (or some equivalent) [20:05] but.. i am using ".xyz.local" internetall [20:05] pangolin_dns_cra: ok, good luck with debian [20:05] :) [20:05] no avahi.... unless it is installed by default [20:06] pangolin_dns_cra: avahi will try to handle all of *.local (if it's installed) [20:07] no avahi .. [20:08] okay, so that's not the issue (still, using *.local for anything but mDNS/SD is probably not a good idea) [20:08] but that probably is a legacy thing ;) [20:10] pangolin_dns_cra: what does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like? === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [20:10] pangolin_dns_cra: I assume you've looked at the new dnsmasq setup ? [20:10] hosts: files dns [NOTFOUND=return] mdns4_minimal mdns4 [20:12] how to check dnsmasq [20:12] where are the config files for dnsmasq [20:12] hm, I have: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [20:13] as I recall (I've not got my head fully around this yet) it points at a local dns masqserver that then forwards your dns requests based on connection (it's to help with vpn solutions) [20:13] I tried it both ways... no effect [20:15] ikonia: then localhost should be in resolv.conf? [20:15] JanC: I think that's right [20:15] I checked it out a few days after release, but lost interest in it as I didn't like the concept [20:15] well, localhost or another local IP/domain [20:15] wierd part is that somehow ubuntu knows that there is bin9 runnign on localhost and it uses it.. even if there are no entries in the /etc/network/interfaces files or resolv.conf [20:15] .. somehow ubuntu knows.. [20:15] JanC: yeah, you get the idea [20:16] pangolin_dns_cra: it knows because of dnsmasq [20:16] dnsmasq is querying [20:16] @ikonia.. that is no dnsmasq [20:16] ikonia: dnsmasq shouldn't be able to do that unless configured in resolv.conf [20:16] I check the entire etc filesystem [20:17] find /etc | grep -i masq ----- gives me no listing [20:18] and the same is true about BIND ;) [20:18] @JanC , I can give you access to my machine... I truly am frustrated. [20:18] ubuntu 12.04 is using magical glue. [20:18] there are other ways top resolve addresses outside DNS [20:18] to [20:19] /etc/hosts, NIS, LDAP, databases, etc. [20:20] i know [20:20] caches [20:20] vanilla install [20:20] no NIS [20:20] no LDAP [20:20] no databases [20:20] ... vanilla install with SSH / LAMP / BIND enables on install screen [20:20] hm [20:22] weird [20:22] and I have no 12.04 server installs [20:23] ok wait a sec.. [20:23] you got ssh ? [20:23] ssh is installed by default on all Ubuntu systems AFAIK ;) [20:24] so yeah [20:24] ok.. fire up ssh and login to this box. [20:25] is there a place I can send you the password ? [20:25] PM ? [20:25] or jabber if you prefer [20:25] .. err.. not very good at IRS.. [20:25] .. ok. [20:25] gmail chat ? [20:26] IRC .. [20:27] not good at IRC .. send me a chat request at my gmail.. plz. [20:29] ragarwal74 [20:32] anyone.. wondering if thera are other IRS resources. [20:32] i am burned the bluk of my weekend on this. [20:32] i need to get this running.. or switch os === quique is now known as sixsotne === sixsotne is now known as sixstone [21:26] anyone here knowledgeable about resolv.conf ? [21:26] or dns ? [21:27] hello [21:27] ? [21:27] anyone here ? [21:27] yep [21:27] what about it? [21:28] I installed 12.04 LTS, vanilla install.. and I cannot configure it to honor "search" paramater in the resolv.conf file [21:28] can you pastebin resolv.conf? [21:29] are you familier with resolv.conf and the /etc/network/interfaces file ? [21:29] !ask [21:29] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [21:29] yes, I am :) [21:30] I need to know what you mean by pastebin ... new to irs [21:30] !pastebin [21:30] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:31] !pastebininit [21:31] !pastebinit [21:31] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [21:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/986209/ [21:33] looks good - what happens if you try to resolve a dns entry? try 'host somehost' where 'somehost' exists in that zone [21:34] the "xxxx.yconnect.local" hosts are not accessible with their names [21:34] can you resolve them with 'host xxxx'? [21:34] that's a direct dns request [21:34] start there [21:34] the "xxxx.yconnect.net" work just fine.. in face they work even if I were to take out the "search" line... and even the "nameserver" line.. which is really weird. [21:35] see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986215/ [21:36] so the dns server is working and responsing to the query, but resolv.conf is not able to do it's magic [21:36] song.yconnect.local.yconnect.local has address 10.1.10.10 <-- do you administer this dns server? looks like it's misconfigured [21:36] a .ha.. so a bind mistake then ? [21:37] looks like you have $ORIGIN yconnect.local and then given song.yconnect.local as the hostname, so that $ORIGIN is added after that [21:37] bind files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986218/ [21:39] should I delte line 33 fron my db.yconnect.local ? [21:40] OMG... I am missing a trailing "." in my $ORIGIN directive. [21:40] :) [21:42] OMF*********G. I wasted my whole weekend on a ".".. 4 reinstalls. [21:42] I will never forget this! [21:42] :) [21:42] single character errors are classic [21:42] I am humbles RoyK [21:42] RoyK: i know, right? [21:42] :P [21:42] I am humbled!!! thank you! [21:42] np :) [21:43] it took you 15 seconds.... thank you.. really... you are a genius! [21:43] RoyK: who decides what gets included in ubuntu server, in terms of server packages (such as php5)? and if you can answer, do you believe php5 will be synced to Quantal at some point? [21:44] version 5.4.x of php5 [21:44] * Resistance was not specific enough [21:44] erm - I don't quite follow what parts of php5 thaat gets in [21:45] seems 5.3 is in precise [21:45] mhm [21:45] but a few days later 5.4.x appeared in sid [21:45]