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koleopterohas anyone managed to make indicator appmenu work on 12.04?00:00
Random832how do i move a panel to a different edge of the screen?00:15
babbleRandom832: unlock the panel you want to move in the Panel control00:16
babbleright click on the panel you want to edit and choose Panel > Edit Panel00:16
Random832panel control?00:17
babbleright click on the panel you want to edit00:19
babbleat the bottom of the context menu that appears, you'll see Panel >00:19
babble(i.e. a flyout submenu)00:19
babblein that submenu, choose Edit Panel00:19
Random832i was able to unlock and click/drag00:21
Random832but i was confused by the fact that there isn't a list of edges and corners to put it on like in previous versions00:21
Random832i apparently _had_ to drag it00:21
warhellevery time xubuntu boots up for me, it shows on my monitor out of frequency range and i cant see to select which kernels to boot into or much anything else till load screen shows up.01:54
warhelllogin screen i mean.01:54
legaspguys, do you like xubuntu02:37
bazhanglegasp, this is xubuntu support, did you have an actual support question? of course we like it, or we'd not use it02:40
legaspawesome02:42
legaspjust being friendly - overlooked the support thing02:42
bazhangnp. chat in #xubuntu-offtopic , if you are interested02:43
Marzatalegasp: or #club-ubuntu02:43
bazhangMarzata, dont advertise that here02:43
Marzatabazhang: don't be that silly, pls02:44
bazhangMarzata, advertising non ubuntu channels is not OK. don t do it anymore02:45
Marzatabazhang: doh02:45
warhellbazhang03:02
bazhangMarzata, yes?03:02
warhellyou know why my monitor goes out of frequency when xubuntu 12.04 is booting up till login screen is loaded.03:02
bazhangthe resolution is not supported "out of range" error?03:03
warhellfrequency out of range03:04
bazhangsure. the resolution is not supported03:04
warhellin grub?03:04
warhellwhen it boots up?03:04
warhellbecause i can see anything inbetween full computer bios screen then login screen once it loads the kernel automaticly.03:05
bazhangyou customised grub?03:05
warhellno03:05
warhelli just installed xubuntu again03:05
warhellbecause i couldnt read anything03:05
bazhang<warhell> because i can see anything     <--- is that cannot?03:05
warhelland nvidia drivers messe up from me doing kernel stuff before all that.03:06
warhelli can't03:06
warhelltill it has login screen03:06
bazhangdual boot? using proprietary drivers?03:06
warhellwhere you select xfce session or xubuntu session03:06
warhellno dual boot03:06
warhelli wiped partion03:06
warhelli got 2 hd's tho03:06
bazhangwarhell, why would you want to see grub then03:07
warhelli wanna see the menu to select kernels03:07
warhelland load screens03:07
warhelli see nothing03:07
bazhangwarhell, so hold shift at boot03:07
warhellso i cant tell what its doing at all if i messed it up.03:07
warhellok03:07
warhellhehe03:07
bazhangwarhell, you can change the grub timeout if you want to see it everytime03:08
bazhang!grub203:08
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)03:08
warhelli just wanna see the screen and it boot up03:08
bazhangwarhell, the info is in there ^03:09
warhellis it a video load issue03:13
warhellor what?03:13
warhellis it trying to load other video drivers during that setup than in os?03:13
bazhangthe kernel modules?03:15
bazhangwarhell, whast card is this, and what driver are you using03:16
warhellokay soits doing a hidden time out huh?03:16
warhellnvidia03:16
warhelland i got the drivers installed from additional drivers03:16
bazhangnvidia has many cards, which exact one03:16
warhellonly real problem im having is not seeing anything from boot up03:17
warhellGeForce 6150SE nForce 43003:17
warhellSceptre X195W-Naga (CRT-0) thats my monitor03:17
bazhangthats quite an old card03:17
warhellthis desktop is old03:18
warhelllol03:18
surtHello. I have a custom launcher on my panel: "shutdown -r now". It works without root access in a terminal. Why doesn't it work on the panel?03:31
jgmdevyou can use gksu shutdown -r now03:34
jgmdevthat will prompt you for a password if needed03:34
surtI set the command up to accept the command without root access.03:34
surtsorry03:34
surtgrammar fail03:34
surtI set it up for fluxbox. But I don03:35
surt't need fluxbox anymore.03:35
surtThe command is handy and I do reboot frequently.03:36
jgmdevtheres also the reboot and poweroff commands03:36
jgmdevman reboot03:36
surtYeah but I haven't enabled my username access to them.03:36
jgmdevman poweroff03:36
jgmdevyou could also pass the password to sudo using pipes03:41
jgmdev"password\n" | sudo -S03:43
jgmdevless secure but works03:43
surtHmm.03:45
surtIs it more secure than the state my system is in now?03:45
surtI issued this command to allow my username access to shutdown: sudo chmod u+s /sbin/shutdown03:46
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xubuntu999my xubuntu was not installed properl05:40
xubuntu108hello05:55
xubuntu108i am using xubuntu05:55
xubuntu108i have webcam problem05:55
xubuntu108pls help me05:56
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aquix!irc08:29
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aquix!xchat08:29
aquix!commands08:30
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baizon:)08:39
aquixmorning baizon08:54
aquix:)08:54
baizonhi hi08:55
aquixxubuntu 12.04 is boring. there is nothing to fix.08:56
baizonaquix: if you wanna talk, lets go -offtopic ;)08:57
malvthey should add an XFCE+xmonad session option09:32
xubuntu131>a>q10:12
xubuntu131q10:12
sal_vagerHi, can anyone help with an audio problem in xubuntu 12.04?10:56
sal_vagerIt's regarding Wine audio alongside non wine sound.10:57
sal_vagerI used to have wine apps and non wine apps playing sound at the same time in 11.10, but now it's one or the other, what changed?11:00
aquixIt's safe to remove xfce4-taskmanager? just a program right?11:03
sal_vagerSynaptic is telling me that xfce4-taskmanager is just a GUI, and when I marked it for removal it didn't list any other programs that it would also have to remove, so it might be safe, I have not tried it though.11:09
aquixI did the same, but I'm new to xfce so I thought I should ask. Reason is that it's chewing on my cpu and I can't kill it.11:10
sal_vagerHmmm xfce4-taskmanager can left closed, and is only using 4% of my resources when open, it shouldn't be a resource hog.11:14
aquixI'm on a laptop, I want thos 4% back :)11:15
aquixbrb. smokes and reboot11:16
momoboyI have an issue with themes in my xubuntu. I am using the Royalbird gtk theme selected from the xfce appearance setting. most of my applications follow this theme, however some of the applications like a gksudo password prompt or brasero cd bunring software fallback on some kinda old default gtk theme. Would any of you know why that might be?12:27
momoboyeven the update manager has this issue12:28
jumperhi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows ?12:54
baizonsorry i dont understand your question12:59
jumperhi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ?12:59
Sysiby changing window manager theme12:59
jumpernot just the buttons13:00
jumperjust the size of the buttons13:01
jumperis possible?13:03
jumperhi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ?13:05
jumperhi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ?13:05
baizonjumper: change the theme13:06
baizonthen the button suze will change13:06
jumpernot xubuntu hasnt themes with big buttons for xfwm13:08
jumperxubuntu 12.0413:10
jumperfrom panel - menu - system config - edit config - is possible in xubuntu has big buttons - squared x  ?13:12
jumperfrom panel - menu -configuration administrator -edit config -is possible in xubuntu has big buttons - squared x ?13:19
jumperxubuntu 12.0413:21
jumperthere is themes with big buttons for xfwm ? links please13:29
jumperbig buttons for windows  - squared x13:31
baizonjumper: spamming wont help, just be patient13:32
xubuntu027hi all13:36
xubuntu027how to install SPSS in Xbuntu?13:37
xubuntu027i get this message...13:37
xubuntu027e450@e450-1215B-1215B:~/Prejemi$ sudo sh SPSS_Statistics_19_lin_en.bin Preparing to install... Extracting the JRE from the installer archive... Unpacking the JRE... Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive... Configuring the installer for this system's environment... strings: '/lib/libc.so.6': No such file  Launching installer...   Graphical installers are not supported by the VM. The console mode will be13:37
xubuntu027 The console mode will be used instead...  Preparing CONSOLE Mode Installation...  =============================================================================== Choose Locale... ----------------      1- English     2- Polski  CHOOSE LOCALE BY NUMBER: 1  =======================================================  Installer User Interface Mode Not Supported  The installer cannot run in this UI mode. To specify the interface mode, u13:37
xubuntu027The installer cannot run in this UI mode. To specify the interface mode, use the -i command-line option, followed by the UI mode identifier. The valid UI modes identifiers are GUI, Console, and Silent.  =======================================================  e450@e450-1215B-1215B:~/Prejemi$13:38
jumperfloodddddddddd13:38
martinphonecan I configure gthumb so I can see a picture from each folder in the left menu instead of a folder icon?14:37
martinphoneor14:37
martinphonewhat photo managers or albums do you use?14:37
aquixI deleted them all but ristretto yesterday. I just use thunar now14:47
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martinphonecan I configure thunar so I can see a picture from each folder in the left menu instead of a folder icon?14:56
aquixno don't think so15:06
aquixthat I know of15:06
kuupsWhich drivers are recommended for ATI cards? Additional or official ATI?15:28
aquixati?   depends what you can get to work15:32
astraljavakuups: Free are preferable, of course, but if it doesn't perform up to par, then you're free to use whatever you want.15:33
kuupswell, first I tried the official ones, which hanged the system at boot, atm I'm using the free ones, but I don't know how/if they are effecting the overall temps15:36
kuupsfirst time using xfce, so I have yet to find a good temp applet15:37
astraljavaDon't know if there are suitable applets for that. Might have to play with conky or other such things.15:38
Artemis3yes there is15:41
kuupswould you care to name one Artemis3 ?15:44
Artemis3xfce4-sensors-plugin15:44
kuupsthank you for the recommendation15:52
PhorcePUsing Xubuntu 12.04 and I want to either switch to lightdm-gtk-greeter or just eliminate the need to login, but when I switch to it in lightdm.conf X doesn't start.17:18
PhorcePunity-greeter works fine, except for having a poor UI (everything stuck on the edge of the screen where a TV cuts it off) and the purple background (that I could probably fix if I cared to)17:19
aquixTo get autologin I added these line to this file   http://uppix.net/c/7/0/ee5b50c634dd441f0fecfbdee8ca5.png17:30
aquixjust change user17:30
PhorcePaquix: changing greeter-session to anything but unity-greeter prevents X from loading, on my machine17:42
aquixPhorceP yes.   I added the tree lines that's marked. The two SeatDefault lines where already there.  Just have to change the username.17:51
aquixdo you have unity-greeter in your lightdm.conf?    I have lightdm-gtk-greeter             on 12.0417:53
PhorcePaquix: yes, I have unity-greeter in lightdm.conf because changing it to lightdm-gtk-greeter or lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu prevents X from starting17:54
PhorcePwith lightdm-gtk-greeter: http://sprunge.us/bUOa  with unity-greeter: http://sprunge.us/igTY18:00
kinoВсем привет18:06
knome!ru | kino18:06
ubottukino: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:06
kinoСпасибо ,но пока мне ничего не нужно18:09
Fab__Hello World19:06
GridCube!hi19:06
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:06
Fab__Could I get some help about something bothering me in Xubuntu? I'm new to it19:06
Fab__I can't play videos properly, especially HD, but even non-HD, either online or offline whether using VLC or Parole19:08
Fab__they're all slowed down, and kinda laggy19:09
GridCubeFab__, have you installed your proper drivers?19:09
gordonjcpwhat are you using to play them?19:09
GridCubegordonjcp, he said, parole and vlc19:09
GridCubeFab__, check that your using your proper drivers opening jockey-gtk19:10
gordonjcpsorry, I meant the output settings19:10
gordonjcpbut yes if the card needs specific drivers then that would make it pretty slow too19:10
gordonjcpyou'd notice that *everything* was slow though, even dragging windows19:10
Fab__I haven't touched the drivers, and I haven't changed any settings up to now. I'm really new to this world19:13
gordonjcpokay19:14
gordonjcpdo you know what kind of graphics card you hvae?19:14
gordonjcp*have19:14
Fab__actually no, but I guess I could get that piece of information somehow19:16
GridCubeFab__, pretty easily19:17
GridCubeFab__, do this19:17
GridCubepress alt-f219:17
GridCubeand write: gksu jockey-gtk19:17
GridCubeit will ask your password19:17
GridCubethen will search your hardware and the drivers for it19:17
Fab__It's a pretty old laptop I found back, 2004 or so, but it used to work fine enough till I grew tired of Windows19:18
GridCube:)19:18
GridCubethat happens19:18
GridCubeFab__, how much ram do you have?19:18
Fab__Ok I entered the command19:18
Fab__1Go19:18
GridCubemmhm it should do well19:19
Fab__"No proprietary driver is used in this system" is the message from gksu jockey-gtk19:20
Fab__Yes I thought so, cause before I switched to a Linux-based OS, videos played ok19:20
Fab__and that's almost the only one problem I've encountered, so fixing it would make it perfect19:21
GridCubeFab__, try using mplayer19:21
Fab__looks like it's not installed, I gotta get it through the synaptics?19:22
GridCubeyes, or simply sudo apt-get install mplayer19:22
Fab__I'm not very used to those command lines, I'm really new to that, but okay, I'll try !19:23
GridCube:)19:23
Fab__feels more geeky haha but in a good way19:24
GridCube:D19:24
GridCubeapt-get FTW19:24
Fab__actually I've already used apt-get19:24
Fab__but never quite understood what I was doing19:24
Fab__And I'll apologise if I ever make mistakes, English is not my native language19:25
GridCubemine neither :D19:25
Fab__oh yeah?19:26
GridCubespañish19:26
Fab__Conozco un poco de español19:26
GridCube:) nice19:26
GridCubebut this channel is english only :D19:26
Fab__yeah ok19:26
Fab__easier for everyone. Ok I'm done installing mplayer, gonna try it19:27
GridCubeFab__, mplayer by itself is terminal based19:28
GridCubeso on a terminal write: mplayer /path/to/video19:28
Fab__Oh, so that's why I can't find in the menu?19:28
GridCubeif it works you can install a mplayer front end, like smplayer19:28
GridCubeyes :D19:28
Fab__See, I learn fast :p19:28
Fab__but I'm not sure typing in the right path19:29
GridCubeFab__, if you press tab it will autocomplete the paths19:30
GridCubeso you write /h[TAB] it will autocomplete /home19:30
GridCubeand so on19:30
Fab__when typing /h[TAB] I only get home19:33
Fab__How do I get the right paths to my video file?19:35
Fab__gonna try sth19:36
Fab__erf it didn't work19:37
Fab__Could you explain to me again how to get the path right to my video?19:38
mongy?19:40
GridCubeFab__,19:45
GridCubei guess your home is called fab19:45
knomeFab__, press the first key of the next folder name (eg. "f") or double-tap "tab" to see the list of possible alternatives19:46
GridCubesoyou do, /h[TAB]/f[TAB]/V[TAB] (for video? i guess)/F[tab] for File name19:46
mongyls /home/19:46
GridCubeFab__, :P i think it will be easier for you just to install a frontend for mplayer19:47
knomemongy, no need to do that, just do "/h[tab]" -> "/home/", then "[tab-tab]" -> shows alternatives (directories) in /home/19:47
Fab__yes I think so :p19:47
GridCube:) Fab__ i recommend you smplayer, its the one i personally like the most19:48
GridCubebut there are several19:48
mongyknome, I just thought he needed to know where his home folder was.19:48
knomemongy, well that is obviously under /home ;)19:48
knomemongy, but yeah, i see your point19:49
mongyknome, didn't seem so obvious to him from my end.  I just got here so no sure what's going on19:49
KovicaI'm using Xubunt ualternate install CDs to customeize the installation process for my company..19:50
KovicaAre there any plans to also release the alternate DVD?19:51
GridCubeno19:51
Fab__so GridCube, to get smplayer, I just need to enter sudo apt-get install smplayer19:52
Fab__?19:52
Kovicaoh, well.. Thanks for the answer..19:52
GridCubeFab__, :D yes19:52
GridCubeKovica, if im not mistaken the position is that the ubuntu dvd already has the xubuntu-desktop metapackage19:53
GridCubeor something like that19:53
KovicaGridCube: right.. I could try that one, but instead of installing ubuntu-desktop I could install xubuntu.-desktop.. Do you perhaps know if the requeired packages are on that DVD?19:55
Fab__Hum, Okay, the installation is done, the program works, but still, video's slow19:55
GridCubeKovica, no sorry don't know :(19:55
GridCube):19:56
KovicaGridCube: ok,, I can check that myself. Thanks..19:56
KovicaHmmm.. Is there a way that I can add additional kernel modules to the kernel used by alternate CD?19:56
GridCubeFab__, do this on a terminal write: lspci | grep VGA19:56
astraljavaKovica: You should probably look at this page first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization19:57
GridCubeKovica, i would pretty much say yes, knowing how many custom ubuntu's are around, but i don't know really19:57
KovicaGridCube: yes, that is true19:58
Kovicaastraljava: I used that to customize my installation.I can use that also to install additional kernel modules, but not add kernel moduels to the kernel used during the installation19:59
Fab__Okay it gives me two lines19:59
Fab__VGA compatible controller20:00
astraljavaKovica: I'm sorry, I don't understand that. Could you put it in some other way? To me those two parts sound the same. :)20:01
GridCubeFab__, yes, i need those lines to know what model of video hardware you have20:02
GridCube:)20:02
Kovicaastraljava: They are not. the kernel and modules used during the installation are not the same.. How do I know that? I have a Realtek 8188CE network chip that does not get recognized during installation, but works atfer the installation is done20:03
astraljavaKovica: Oh that's probably just the installation environment not working exactly the same as the real deal after the installation. It'd be pretty damn strange if you ask me, if those that you installed were different from those used in the first boot. :)20:04
Fab__VGA compatible controller :Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon RV 250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)20:05
Fab__I couldn't copy/paste so, it took me awhile20:05
Kovicaastraljava: during the installation you can run a console and go to /lib/modules.. In that directory there are much less modules that in the same directory on the installed system20:06
astraljavaKovica: Did you check as the last thing before the boot? I find it very peculiar, that somehow, somewhere between the end of installation and the beginning of first boot, modules appear out of nowhere.20:07
Kovicaastraljava: no they don't. All Im saying is that the kernel/modules used during the installation are different that the one on the installed system20:08
GridCubeFab__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7804812&postcount=220:09
GridCubelisten, Fab__20:09
GridCubethis assumes you have a xorg.conf20:09
GridCubeyou shouldnt20:09
GridCubealso it assumes youre using gedit, you are using leafpad20:10
astraljavaKovica: I've forgotten much from how the installation process behaves, but I believe there's /target where the installation is done. Are you sure you checked from the correct place?20:10
Fab__yeah so I got to change the gedit command by leafpad, right?20:10
Kovicaastraljava: yes.. /lib/modules and /target/lib/modules are different, where /target/lib/modules has a lot more modules20:11
astraljavaKovica: Yes, and you should only check /target/lib/modules, as that's what is used when you boot.20:12
astraljavaKovica: And preseeding install to /target as well.20:12
astraljavainstalls*20:13
astraljavaKovica: The plain /lib/modules is just the installer environment, and you should not pay attention to that.20:13
astraljava...at all.20:13
astraljavaKovica: Unless you need to access some hardware during the installation, which cannot be read with the modules present by default. Is that the case?20:14
GridCubeFab__, yes, instead of gedit just place leafpad, it will the create a xorg.conf file20:14
Kovicaastraljava: yes, that is the case :)20:15
GridCubeFab__, then you add those lines and log out and log in, that should put the new xorg.conf to work20:15
Fab__I manged to open a xorg.conf file20:17
astraljavaKovica: Ok, then you just need to edit the other sections of the installation CD contents. I forget how I did that, I've last tampered with it in '07, so my recollection is a tad hazy now. :)20:24
Kovicaastraljava: I was trying to find something on Google, askusubntu.com, ... I was even browsing the content of the CD. But I still have no idea how to do that? Do you have any pointers?20:26
astraljavaKovica: I'm gonna have to refresh my memory first, so that I won't give false information. What's your schedule with this?20:30
mongythe idea of an xorg.conf file these days scares me.20:30
Kovicaastraljava: Now I have installation process devided in two parts: first I do what I can without the network and the second part is run when the installed xubuntu boots for the first time and the newtork is present... I can live with that. So there is no real presure on me..20:34
Kovicaastraljava: But I'd still like to be able to add modules.. maybe in the future I would have to do that..20:35
Kovicaastraljava: So whenever you could provide as asnwer is good. :)20:35
astraljavaKovica: Ok, send me an email to my nick at kapsi.fi, so that we won't have to rely on being on IRC at the same time.20:36
Kovicaastraljava: ok.. I already sent you an email from my gmail account. Did you get it ?20:38
astraljavaKovica: Yep, responded.20:39
Kovicaastraljava: great. thanks for your help.. I'm awaiting your responce. :)20:40
astraljavaKovica: I won't promise any deadlines, though. I'm still getting things in their right places after the move, so I haven't set up my testing environment at all, yet.20:43
Kovicaastraljava: You don't have to.. I don't expect that you provide the exact solution.. I just don't know what document to read, what to do next.. So any pointers, help, ... will be appreciated..20:46
astraljavaKovica: Understood.20:47
Kovicaastraljava: thanks.. I have to go now.. Sorry.20:48
tomaszHi. I have some odd problem with Xubuntu 12.04. After I login the system stops doing anything for a minute or so. Only wallpaper is visible. Then it continues to load. What could be wrong or where should I look to find what causes it?21:18
Roger_Interesting problem.  I loaded Xubuntu onto a friends laptop.  (He was getting BSOD's on Windows)  Everything is working great until I open firefox.  Then it looks like this http://i.imgur.com/A1xDP.jpg22:20
Roger_Any ideas?22:20
Roger_Hello?22:22
pleia2yikes22:24
pleia2I haven't seen that before :\ maybe a graphics card problem? (hardware weirdness would explain BSOD on windows too)22:24
Roger_Any way that you know of to confirm? tools that can check that kind of thing?22:26
aguitelRoger_, what video card?22:44
martinphoneto boot from a usb stick I have to select usb-hdd right?22:51
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Roger_It's a nvidia chipset in a dell laptop.23:19
Roger_aguitel, Geforce Go 7900 GS23:20
Benguin'lo guys, quick question, a friend wants to install xubuntu, is there a wubi kind of installation he can use?23:33
Artemis3i believe that still included in the xubuntu-desktop image?23:35
BenguinI told him there's no harm in downloading it and checking23:35
Benguinand if not, I can tell him how to dual boot the regular way23:35
GridCubeBenguin, regular dual boot is a gazillion times better23:39
GridCubebut theres wubi23:39
BenguinI know it is, but it also makes it easier for him to derp and break his windows, I'd rather not be responsible :P23:40
BenguinThanks, I'll let him know23:40

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