[00:00] has anyone managed to make indicator appmenu work on 12.04? [00:15] how do i move a panel to a different edge of the screen? [00:16] Random832: unlock the panel you want to move in the Panel control [00:16] right click on the panel you want to edit and choose Panel > Edit Panel [00:17] panel control? [00:19] right click on the panel you want to edit [00:19] at the bottom of the context menu that appears, you'll see Panel > [00:19] (i.e. a flyout submenu) [00:19] in that submenu, choose Edit Panel [00:21] i was able to unlock and click/drag [00:21] but i was confused by the fact that there isn't a list of edges and corners to put it on like in previous versions [00:21] i apparently _had_ to drag it [01:54] every time xubuntu boots up for me, it shows on my monitor out of frequency range and i cant see to select which kernels to boot into or much anything else till load screen shows up. [01:54] login screen i mean. [02:37] guys, do you like xubuntu [02:40] legasp, this is xubuntu support, did you have an actual support question? of course we like it, or we'd not use it [02:42] awesome [02:42] just being friendly - overlooked the support thing [02:43] np. chat in #xubuntu-offtopic , if you are interested [02:43] legasp: or #club-ubuntu [02:43] Marzata, dont advertise that here [02:44] bazhang: don't be that silly, pls [02:45] Marzata, advertising non ubuntu channels is not OK. don t do it anymore [02:45] bazhang: doh [03:02] bazhang [03:02] Marzata, yes? [03:02] you know why my monitor goes out of frequency when xubuntu 12.04 is booting up till login screen is loaded. [03:03] the resolution is not supported "out of range" error? [03:04] frequency out of range [03:04] sure. the resolution is not supported [03:04] in grub? [03:04] when it boots up? [03:05] because i can see anything inbetween full computer bios screen then login screen once it loads the kernel automaticly. [03:05] you customised grub? [03:05] no [03:05] i just installed xubuntu again [03:05] because i couldnt read anything [03:05] because i can see anything <--- is that cannot? [03:06] and nvidia drivers messe up from me doing kernel stuff before all that. [03:06] i can't [03:06] till it has login screen [03:06] dual boot? using proprietary drivers? [03:06] where you select xfce session or xubuntu session [03:06] no dual boot [03:06] i wiped partion [03:06] i got 2 hd's tho [03:07] warhell, why would you want to see grub then [03:07] i wanna see the menu to select kernels [03:07] and load screens [03:07] i see nothing [03:07] warhell, so hold shift at boot [03:07] so i cant tell what its doing at all if i messed it up. [03:07] ok [03:07] hehe [03:08] warhell, you can change the grub timeout if you want to see it everytime [03:08] !grub2 [03:08] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [03:08] i just wanna see the screen and it boot up [03:09] warhell, the info is in there ^ [03:13] is it a video load issue [03:13] or what? [03:13] is it trying to load other video drivers during that setup than in os? [03:15] the kernel modules? [03:16] warhell, whast card is this, and what driver are you using [03:16] okay soits doing a hidden time out huh? [03:16] nvidia [03:16] and i got the drivers installed from additional drivers [03:16] nvidia has many cards, which exact one [03:17] only real problem im having is not seeing anything from boot up [03:17] GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 [03:17] Sceptre X195W-Naga (CRT-0) thats my monitor [03:17] thats quite an old card [03:18] this desktop is old [03:18] lol [03:31] Hello. I have a custom launcher on my panel: "shutdown -r now". It works without root access in a terminal. Why doesn't it work on the panel? [03:34] you can use gksu shutdown -r now [03:34] that will prompt you for a password if needed [03:34] I set the command up to accept the command without root access. [03:34] sorry [03:34] grammar fail [03:35] I set it up for fluxbox. But I don [03:35] 't need fluxbox anymore. [03:36] The command is handy and I do reboot frequently. [03:36] theres also the reboot and poweroff commands [03:36] man reboot [03:36] Yeah but I haven't enabled my username access to them. [03:36] man poweroff [03:41] you could also pass the password to sudo using pipes [03:43] "password\n" | sudo -S [03:43] less secure but works [03:45] Hmm. [03:45] Is it more secure than the state my system is in now? [03:46] I issued this command to allow my username access to shutdown: sudo chmod u+s /sbin/shutdown === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:40] my xubuntu was not installed properl [05:55] hello [05:55] i am using xubuntu [05:55] i have webcam problem [05:56] pls help me === Gryllida is now known as gry [08:29] !irc [08:29] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [08:29] !xchat [08:30] !commands [08:30] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [08:39] :) [08:54] morning baizon [08:54] :) [08:55] hi hi [08:56] xubuntu 12.04 is boring. there is nothing to fix. [08:57] aquix: if you wanna talk, lets go -offtopic ;) [09:32] they should add an XFCE+xmonad session option [10:12] >a>q [10:12] q [10:56] Hi, can anyone help with an audio problem in xubuntu 12.04? [10:57] It's regarding Wine audio alongside non wine sound. [11:00] I used to have wine apps and non wine apps playing sound at the same time in 11.10, but now it's one or the other, what changed? [11:03] It's safe to remove xfce4-taskmanager? just a program right? [11:09] Synaptic is telling me that xfce4-taskmanager is just a GUI, and when I marked it for removal it didn't list any other programs that it would also have to remove, so it might be safe, I have not tried it though. [11:10] I did the same, but I'm new to xfce so I thought I should ask. Reason is that it's chewing on my cpu and I can't kill it. [11:14] Hmmm xfce4-taskmanager can left closed, and is only using 4% of my resources when open, it shouldn't be a resource hog. [11:15] I'm on a laptop, I want thos 4% back :) [11:16] brb. smokes and reboot [12:27] I have an issue with themes in my xubuntu. I am using the Royalbird gtk theme selected from the xfce appearance setting. most of my applications follow this theme, however some of the applications like a gksudo password prompt or brasero cd bunring software fallback on some kinda old default gtk theme. Would any of you know why that might be? [12:28] even the update manager has this issue [12:54] hi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows ? [12:59] sorry i dont understand your question [12:59] hi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ? [12:59] by changing window manager theme [13:00] not just the buttons [13:01] just the size of the buttons [13:03] is possible? [13:05] hi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ? [13:05] hi from the edit config of xubuntu 12.04 , is possible put big buttons to the windows - squared x ? [13:06] jumper: change the theme [13:06] then the button suze will change [13:08] not xubuntu hasnt themes with big buttons for xfwm [13:10] xubuntu 12.04 [13:12] from panel - menu - system config - edit config - is possible in xubuntu has big buttons - squared x ? [13:19] from panel - menu -configuration administrator -edit config -is possible in xubuntu has big buttons - squared x ? [13:21] xubuntu 12.04 [13:29] there is themes with big buttons for xfwm ? links please [13:31] big buttons for windows - squared x [13:32] jumper: spamming wont help, just be patient [13:36] hi all [13:37] how to install SPSS in Xbuntu? [13:37] i get this message... [13:37] e450@e450-1215B-1215B:~/Prejemi$ sudo sh SPSS_Statistics_19_lin_en.bin Preparing to install... Extracting the JRE from the installer archive... Unpacking the JRE... Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive... Configuring the installer for this system's environment... strings: '/lib/libc.so.6': No such file Launching installer... Graphical installers are not supported by the VM. The console mode will be [13:37] The console mode will be used instead... Preparing CONSOLE Mode Installation... =============================================================================== Choose Locale... ---------------- 1- English 2- Polski CHOOSE LOCALE BY NUMBER: 1 ======================================================= Installer User Interface Mode Not Supported The installer cannot run in this UI mode. To specify the interface mode, u [13:38] The installer cannot run in this UI mode. To specify the interface mode, use the -i command-line option, followed by the UI mode identifier. The valid UI modes identifiers are GUI, Console, and Silent. ======================================================= e450@e450-1215B-1215B:~/Prejemi$ [13:38] floodddddddddd [14:37] can I configure gthumb so I can see a picture from each folder in the left menu instead of a folder icon? [14:37] or [14:37] what photo managers or albums do you use? [14:47] I deleted them all but ristretto yesterday. I just use thunar now === jalcine is now known as Jacky [14:56] can I configure thunar so I can see a picture from each folder in the left menu instead of a folder icon? [15:06] no don't think so [15:06] that I know of [15:28] Which drivers are recommended for ATI cards? Additional or official ATI? [15:32] ati? depends what you can get to work [15:33] kuups: Free are preferable, of course, but if it doesn't perform up to par, then you're free to use whatever you want. [15:36] well, first I tried the official ones, which hanged the system at boot, atm I'm using the free ones, but I don't know how/if they are effecting the overall temps [15:37] first time using xfce, so I have yet to find a good temp applet [15:38] Don't know if there are suitable applets for that. Might have to play with conky or other such things. [15:41] yes there is [15:44] would you care to name one Artemis3 ? [15:44] xfce4-sensors-plugin [15:52] thank you for the recommendation [17:18] Using Xubuntu 12.04 and I want to either switch to lightdm-gtk-greeter or just eliminate the need to login, but when I switch to it in lightdm.conf X doesn't start. [17:19] unity-greeter works fine, except for having a poor UI (everything stuck on the edge of the screen where a TV cuts it off) and the purple background (that I could probably fix if I cared to) [17:30] To get autologin I added these line to this file http://uppix.net/c/7/0/ee5b50c634dd441f0fecfbdee8ca5.png [17:30] just change user [17:42] aquix: changing greeter-session to anything but unity-greeter prevents X from loading, on my machine [17:51] PhorceP yes. I added the tree lines that's marked. The two SeatDefault lines where already there. Just have to change the username. [17:53] do you have unity-greeter in your lightdm.conf? I have lightdm-gtk-greeter on 12.04 [17:54] aquix: yes, I have unity-greeter in lightdm.conf because changing it to lightdm-gtk-greeter or lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu prevents X from starting [18:00] with lightdm-gtk-greeter: http://sprunge.us/bUOa with unity-greeter: http://sprunge.us/igTY [18:06] Всем привет [18:06] !ru | kino [18:06] kino: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [18:09] Спасибо ,но пока мне ничего не нужно [19:06] Hello World [19:06] !hi [19:06] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [19:06] Could I get some help about something bothering me in Xubuntu? I'm new to it [19:08] I can't play videos properly, especially HD, but even non-HD, either online or offline whether using VLC or Parole [19:09] they're all slowed down, and kinda laggy [19:09] Fab__, have you installed your proper drivers? [19:09] what are you using to play them? [19:09] gordonjcp, he said, parole and vlc [19:10] Fab__, check that your using your proper drivers opening jockey-gtk [19:10] sorry, I meant the output settings [19:10] but yes if the card needs specific drivers then that would make it pretty slow too [19:10] you'd notice that *everything* was slow though, even dragging windows [19:13] I haven't touched the drivers, and I haven't changed any settings up to now. I'm really new to this world [19:14] okay [19:14] do you know what kind of graphics card you hvae? [19:14] *have [19:16] actually no, but I guess I could get that piece of information somehow [19:17] Fab__, pretty easily [19:17] Fab__, do this [19:17] press alt-f2 [19:17] and write: gksu jockey-gtk [19:17] it will ask your password [19:17] then will search your hardware and the drivers for it [19:18] It's a pretty old laptop I found back, 2004 or so, but it used to work fine enough till I grew tired of Windows [19:18] :) [19:18] that happens [19:18] Fab__, how much ram do you have? [19:18] Ok I entered the command [19:18] 1Go [19:19] mmhm it should do well [19:20] "No proprietary driver is used in this system" is the message from gksu jockey-gtk [19:20] Yes I thought so, cause before I switched to a Linux-based OS, videos played ok [19:21] and that's almost the only one problem I've encountered, so fixing it would make it perfect [19:21] Fab__, try using mplayer [19:22] looks like it's not installed, I gotta get it through the synaptics? [19:22] yes, or simply sudo apt-get install mplayer [19:23] I'm not very used to those command lines, I'm really new to that, but okay, I'll try ! [19:23] :) [19:24] feels more geeky haha but in a good way [19:24] :D [19:24] apt-get FTW [19:24] actually I've already used apt-get [19:24] but never quite understood what I was doing [19:25] And I'll apologise if I ever make mistakes, English is not my native language [19:25] mine neither :D [19:26] oh yeah? [19:26] spañish [19:26] Conozco un poco de español [19:26] :) nice [19:26] but this channel is english only :D [19:26] yeah ok [19:27] easier for everyone. Ok I'm done installing mplayer, gonna try it [19:28] Fab__, mplayer by itself is terminal based [19:28] so on a terminal write: mplayer /path/to/video [19:28] Oh, so that's why I can't find in the menu? [19:28] if it works you can install a mplayer front end, like smplayer [19:28] yes :D [19:28] See, I learn fast :p [19:29] but I'm not sure typing in the right path [19:30] Fab__, if you press tab it will autocomplete the paths [19:30] so you write /h[TAB] it will autocomplete /home [19:30] and so on [19:33] when typing /h[TAB] I only get home [19:35] How do I get the right paths to my video file? [19:36] gonna try sth [19:37] erf it didn't work [19:38] Could you explain to me again how to get the path right to my video? [19:40] ? [19:45] Fab__, [19:45] i guess your home is called fab [19:46] Fab__, press the first key of the next folder name (eg. "f") or double-tap "tab" to see the list of possible alternatives [19:46] soyou do, /h[TAB]/f[TAB]/V[TAB] (for video? i guess)/F[tab] for File name [19:46] ls /home/ [19:47] Fab__, :P i think it will be easier for you just to install a frontend for mplayer [19:47] mongy, no need to do that, just do "/h[tab]" -> "/home/", then "[tab-tab]" -> shows alternatives (directories) in /home/ [19:47] yes I think so :p [19:48] :) Fab__ i recommend you smplayer, its the one i personally like the most [19:48] but there are several [19:48] knome, I just thought he needed to know where his home folder was. [19:48] mongy, well that is obviously under /home ;) [19:49] mongy, but yeah, i see your point [19:49] knome, didn't seem so obvious to him from my end. I just got here so no sure what's going on [19:50] I'm using Xubunt ualternate install CDs to customeize the installation process for my company.. [19:51] Are there any plans to also release the alternate DVD? [19:51] no [19:52] so GridCube, to get smplayer, I just need to enter sudo apt-get install smplayer [19:52] ? [19:52] oh, well.. Thanks for the answer.. [19:52] Fab__, :D yes [19:53] Kovica, if im not mistaken the position is that the ubuntu dvd already has the xubuntu-desktop metapackage [19:53] or something like that [19:55] GridCube: right.. I could try that one, but instead of installing ubuntu-desktop I could install xubuntu.-desktop.. Do you perhaps know if the requeired packages are on that DVD? [19:55] Hum, Okay, the installation is done, the program works, but still, video's slow [19:55] Kovica, no sorry don't know :( [19:56] ): [19:56] GridCube: ok,, I can check that myself. Thanks.. [19:56] Hmmm.. Is there a way that I can add additional kernel modules to the kernel used by alternate CD? [19:56] Fab__, do this on a terminal write: lspci | grep VGA [19:57] Kovica: You should probably look at this page first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization [19:57] Kovica, i would pretty much say yes, knowing how many custom ubuntu's are around, but i don't know really [19:58] GridCube: yes, that is true [19:59] astraljava: I used that to customize my installation.I can use that also to install additional kernel modules, but not add kernel moduels to the kernel used during the installation [19:59] Okay it gives me two lines [20:00] VGA compatible controller [20:01] Kovica: I'm sorry, I don't understand that. Could you put it in some other way? To me those two parts sound the same. :) [20:02] Fab__, yes, i need those lines to know what model of video hardware you have [20:02] :) [20:03] astraljava: They are not. the kernel and modules used during the installation are not the same.. How do I know that? I have a Realtek 8188CE network chip that does not get recognized during installation, but works atfer the installation is done [20:04] Kovica: Oh that's probably just the installation environment not working exactly the same as the real deal after the installation. It'd be pretty damn strange if you ask me, if those that you installed were different from those used in the first boot. :) [20:05] VGA compatible controller :Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon RV 250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01) [20:05] I couldn't copy/paste so, it took me awhile [20:06] astraljava: during the installation you can run a console and go to /lib/modules.. In that directory there are much less modules that in the same directory on the installed system [20:07] Kovica: Did you check as the last thing before the boot? I find it very peculiar, that somehow, somewhere between the end of installation and the beginning of first boot, modules appear out of nowhere. [20:08] astraljava: no they don't. All Im saying is that the kernel/modules used during the installation are different that the one on the installed system [20:09] Fab__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7804812&postcount=2 [20:09] listen, Fab__ [20:09] this assumes you have a xorg.conf [20:09] you shouldnt [20:10] also it assumes youre using gedit, you are using leafpad [20:10] Kovica: I've forgotten much from how the installation process behaves, but I believe there's /target where the installation is done. Are you sure you checked from the correct place? [20:10] yeah so I got to change the gedit command by leafpad, right? [20:11] astraljava: yes.. /lib/modules and /target/lib/modules are different, where /target/lib/modules has a lot more modules [20:12] Kovica: Yes, and you should only check /target/lib/modules, as that's what is used when you boot. [20:12] Kovica: And preseeding install to /target as well. [20:13] installs* [20:13] Kovica: The plain /lib/modules is just the installer environment, and you should not pay attention to that. [20:13] ...at all. [20:14] Kovica: Unless you need to access some hardware during the installation, which cannot be read with the modules present by default. Is that the case? [20:14] Fab__, yes, instead of gedit just place leafpad, it will the create a xorg.conf file [20:15] astraljava: yes, that is the case :) [20:15] Fab__, then you add those lines and log out and log in, that should put the new xorg.conf to work [20:17] I manged to open a xorg.conf file [20:24] Kovica: Ok, then you just need to edit the other sections of the installation CD contents. I forget how I did that, I've last tampered with it in '07, so my recollection is a tad hazy now. :) [20:26] astraljava: I was trying to find something on Google, askusubntu.com, ... I was even browsing the content of the CD. But I still have no idea how to do that? Do you have any pointers? [20:30] Kovica: I'm gonna have to refresh my memory first, so that I won't give false information. What's your schedule with this? [20:30] the idea of an xorg.conf file these days scares me. [20:34] astraljava: Now I have installation process devided in two parts: first I do what I can without the network and the second part is run when the installed xubuntu boots for the first time and the newtork is present... I can live with that. So there is no real presure on me.. [20:35] astraljava: But I'd still like to be able to add modules.. maybe in the future I would have to do that.. [20:35] astraljava: So whenever you could provide as asnwer is good. :) [20:36] Kovica: Ok, send me an email to my nick at kapsi.fi, so that we won't have to rely on being on IRC at the same time. [20:38] astraljava: ok.. I already sent you an email from my gmail account. Did you get it ? [20:39] Kovica: Yep, responded. [20:40] astraljava: great. thanks for your help.. I'm awaiting your responce. :) [20:43] Kovica: I won't promise any deadlines, though. I'm still getting things in their right places after the move, so I haven't set up my testing environment at all, yet. [20:46] astraljava: You don't have to.. I don't expect that you provide the exact solution.. I just don't know what document to read, what to do next.. So any pointers, help, ... will be appreciated.. [20:47] Kovica: Understood. [20:48] astraljava: thanks.. I have to go now.. Sorry. [21:18] Hi. I have some odd problem with Xubuntu 12.04. After I login the system stops doing anything for a minute or so. Only wallpaper is visible. Then it continues to load. What could be wrong or where should I look to find what causes it? [22:20] Interesting problem. I loaded Xubuntu onto a friends laptop. (He was getting BSOD's on Windows) Everything is working great until I open firefox. Then it looks like this http://i.imgur.com/A1xDP.jpg [22:20] Any ideas? [22:22] Hello? [22:24] yikes [22:24] I haven't seen that before :\ maybe a graphics card problem? (hardware weirdness would explain BSOD on windows too) [22:26] Any way that you know of to confirm? tools that can check that kind of thing? [22:44] Roger_, what video card? [22:51] to boot from a usb stick I have to select usb-hdd right? === gridcube_ is now known as GridCube [23:19] It's a nvidia chipset in a dell laptop. [23:20] aguitel, Geforce Go 7900 GS [23:33] 'lo guys, quick question, a friend wants to install xubuntu, is there a wubi kind of installation he can use? [23:35] i believe that still included in the xubuntu-desktop image? [23:35] I told him there's no harm in downloading it and checking [23:35] and if not, I can tell him how to dual boot the regular way [23:39] Benguin, regular dual boot is a gazillion times better [23:39] but theres wubi [23:40] I know it is, but it also makes it easier for him to derp and break his windows, I'd rather not be responsible :P [23:40] Thanks, I'll let him know