[12:00] <cstachris> hi - i just watched the video from the developer summit, i liked your BHAG :)
[14:02] <highvoltage> good morning
[14:02] <highvoltage> cs<tab>
[14:02]  * highvoltage wishes people would hang around more
[14:02] <alkisg> 'morning hi<tab> :)
[14:03] <highvoltage> hi alkisg :)
[14:03] <highvoltage> we assigned you a work item or two in your absense at UDS :)
[14:03]  * alkisg would prefer to get the "make the edubuntu dvd able to netboot fat clients" action item :D
[14:08] <highvoltage> alkisg: so, I think the nbd item on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-edubuntu is for that
[14:09] <alkisg> I [stgraber] Add support for nbd in NETBOOT= for casper: TODO ==> DONE
[14:09] <alkisg> Ah sorry
[14:09] <highvoltage> alkisg: perhaps talk to stgraber about it, it might be worth while splitting up some of the sub tasks for that.
[14:09] <alkisg> I added support to get nbdroot= from dhcp
[14:09] <alkisg> OK let me read that more...
[14:10] <highvoltage> alkisg: I added an item for you to investigate whether we could (or need) any tablet integration or features for epopte
[14:10] <highvoltage> *epoptes
[14:10] <alkisg> I'll ask Phantomas to check, if he can find any tables, that is
[14:10] <alkisg> *tablets
[14:11] <highvoltage> we're going to try to find a sponsor for some tablets and we'll send you one if it works out
[14:11] <stgraber> alkisg: we want to allow for the livecd to be bootable over the network, it currently is but only when using cifs or nfs, I want to add nbd so we don't need to pull one of the other two on the media
[14:11] <alkisg> stgraber: I wonder if serving the NBD image over NFS is fast enough
[14:12] <alkisg> If so, we only need a bit of code in our current ltsp initscripts...
[14:12] <alkisg> Btw, I've removed "nbdroot=" from our default command line, it gets that from root-path now
[14:13] <alkisg> stgraber: also, is 12.10 a good target to netboot the whole squashfs image, thus supporting fat clients too? (i.e. have ltsp-client installed in it already)
[14:13] <highvoltage> stgraber: I guess we still need to sort our tasks by milestone, I'm technically in a meeting now but I guess we could go through it a bit later
[14:14] <alkisg> So, if ltsp-client is already installed in the squashfs image, there's no need to touch casper, is there?
[14:15] <alkisg> In a few days I'll push a `ltsp-update-image --cleanup /` option which can be used to generate the final image, after whatever language etc the user has installed
[14:16] <highvoltage> what will --cleanup clean up?
[14:16] <alkisg> snakeoil keys, user accounts etc
[14:16] <alkisg> logs..
[14:16] <stgraber> alkisg: in theory making edubuntu's squashfs an ltsp image will allow us to bypass casper indeed (assuming having both ltsp and casper in the initramfs won't create a conflict). I still want to support nbd in casper for other ubuntu projects that won't be using ltsp though.
[14:17] <alkisg> Ah, ok
[14:41] <highvoltage> stgraber: so with unity2d going away, would weblive also use unity3d+llvm?
[14:42] <stgraber> highvoltage: yeah
[14:42] <stgraber> highvoltage: the good thing is that most sessions are single-app sessions so won't be affected by the change
[14:42] <stgraber> highvoltage: the rest will probably use a tiny bit more CPU but I don't expect a huge change as all the rendering is already done serverside with NX
[14:43] <highvoltage> cool
[15:14] <highvoltage> mgariepy: oh yes meant to paste it for you too: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-edubuntu
[15:58] <highvoltage> stgraber, mgariepy, alkisg: I moved all the items to milestones, I took random guesses with many of them, so please edit where appropriate.
[15:58] <alkisg> Nice :)
[15:59] <highvoltage> (they should soon be on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/edubuntu-dev.html)
[18:03] <highvoltage> http://www.muktware.com/3594/edubuntu-linux-education
[18:04] <highvoltage> "All in all Edubuntu 12.04 is an excellent release in every respect and carries the contribution of FOSS to the World and Humanity in the field of Education further.
[18:04] <highvoltage> "
[18:06] <highvoltage> stgraber: I want to do a story on edubuntu.org listing some of the good feedback we've received for 12.04, I guess I'll have to prioritize that website work I need to do :)
[18:08] <highvoltage> http://twitpic.com/9jy3vd
[18:28] <highvoltage> mhall119: howdy, are you around?
[18:31] <mhall119> highvoltage: only for a moment, then I have to pickup the kids from school
[18:31] <mhall119> I'll be back in about 30 minutes though
[18:31] <highvoltage> mhall119: the appguide is kind of cool even though we never gave it proper linkage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/AppGuide
[18:32] <highvoltage> mhall119: but would it be perhaps better to put that on the edubuntu website instead and link to the app pages on https://apps.ubuntu.com ?
[18:32] <mhall119> I should probably re-create it for 12.04, huh?
[18:32] <mhall119> likely, yeah
[18:32] <mhall119> IIRC, apps.u.c didn't exist when I made it
[18:32] <highvoltage> indeed.
[18:32] <highvoltage> ooh, the apps pages include the reviews too
[18:32] <mhall119> I can modify the script to spit out HTML for the website
[18:33] <highvoltage> ok cool!
[18:33] <mhall119> highvoltage: can you give me a work item on one of the edubuntu blueprints to do that?
[18:33] <highvoltage> well, I guess linking to the apps site is sufficient, at least that would give us less pages to maintain
[18:33] <mhall119> yeah, I think just name, short description and a link will do
[18:34] <highvoltage> mhall119: done
[18:34] <mhall119> thanks
[18:34] <highvoltage> it would allow us to reduce the number of wiki pages we have, too. so that will be awesome.
[18:34] <highvoltage> and the website is typically more accessable to people than the wiki.
[19:27] <ajmitch> highvoltage: thought I'd lurk in here again ;)
[19:28] <highvoltage> ajmitch: whohoo! :)
[19:30] <ajmitch> highvoltage: so what sort of things were you looking at with tablets?
[19:31] <highvoltage> ajmitch: so, I've probably pasted this to you before: http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html
[19:32] <ajmitch> yeah I've got that sitting on my desk now
[19:32] <highvoltage> ajmitch: for a start, we want to do some hardware enablement on it (which kubuntu is at least mostly taking care of)
[19:32] <highvoltage> ajmitch: then try out unity with all its touch features on it
[19:32] <highvoltage> ajmitch: and also extend epoptes (http://epoptes.org) to have touch features
[19:33] <ajmitch> so I'm wanting to get ubuntu (using unity) on it once it's possible to run
[19:33] <highvoltage> ajmitch: when we have something that more or less works as a system for that tablet, we want to target app developers and encourage them to port their software over to ubuntu for the software center so that we have more touch apps available
[19:33] <highvoltage> ajmitch: yeppers.
[19:34] <ajmitch> sounds like much of what I was planning apart from epoptes :)
[19:34] <highvoltage> there's probably a lot more we /could/ do. but in 6 months I'm not sure if there's more we can do.
[19:35] <ajmitch> I'm going to try & help out the community team rockstars like mhall119 & dpm with the developer.ubuntu.com site as well
[19:35] <highvoltage> but if you get a bright idea, don't hessitate to try it out and report back :)
[19:35] <highvoltage> cool.
[19:35] <ajmitch> oh sure :)
[19:37] <ajmitch> as far as I know, the zatab can boot from the microSD card which I can write on my laptop
[19:37] <ajmitch> I think I had an adapter for it around here
[19:37]  * highvoltage still needs to check with rlnx if we can order a bunch
[19:38]  * ajmitch has to work out how to try & boot a different image on this though
[19:38] <highvoltage> darkwing on #kubuntu-devel might be able to tell you
[19:40] <ajmitch> another channel to join? :)
[19:40] <highvoltage> hehe
[19:41]  * ajmitch tries to track down what caused his lxc directory usage to explode
[19:41] <ajmitch> 7.4G log file...
[19:41] <ajmitch> I knew trying out juju was a mistake
[19:42] <highvoltage> sounds like a candidate for #rmrf: http://identi.ca/tag/rmrf
[19:45] <ajmitch> it'd managed to fill up my disk, not happy with that
[19:51] <mhall119> ajmitch: is the log from juju?
[19:52] <ajmitch> mhall119: yep, though it's apparantly from zookeeper, there's a bug filed about it