[00:20] <xixor> yo, is there a way to tell the date that I installed kubuntu?  when did this system first boot, etc?
[00:20] <xixor> I can get a rough idea from /var/log
[00:41] <ray40> My system is not shutting down because it says that debugfs is busy. Has anyone seen this problem before?
[00:48] <rahmspinat> hi someone here?
[00:52] <rahmspinat> hi someone here?
[00:56] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: yes?
[00:57] <spinatrahm> is : a whisper or not?
[00:58] <spinatrahm> i need some help with the soundsystem please
[00:59] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: Not a whisper
[00:59] <Daskreech>  I jsut highlighted your name :)
[00:59] <Daskreech> what do you need?
[01:01] <spinatrahm> I messed around with alsamixer and alsactl store and now the sound is messed up how can i completely reset the kubuntu sound settings?
[01:03] <spinatrahm> (Thats just the result of an attempted solution for anoterh problem.)
[01:06] <Daskreech> what dows messed up mean?
[01:07] <Daskreech>  and what's the other problem?
[01:08] <spinatrahm> Its like the samplerate is not fitting although i did not change it. It skips about a half second and plays the other one?
[01:08] <Daskreech> using alsaplay?
[01:09] <spinatrahm> And: when doing aplay -L it shows "
[01:09] <spinatrahm> pcm.pulse {
[01:09] <spinatrahm>     type pulse
[01:09] <spinatrahm> }
[01:09] <spinatrahm> ctl.pulse {
[01:09] <spinatrahm>     type pulse
[01:09] <FloodBotK1> spinatrahm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: pastebin
[01:10] <spinatrahm> i wanted to paste a one liner but i think it pasted the X selection
[01:10] <Daskreech> Seems like it :)
[01:11] <Daskreech> Most decent GUI IRC clients would warn you before that was pasted
[01:11] <spinatrahm> And: when doing aplay -L it says No Protocol specified and xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
[01:12] <spinatrahm> (I use Konversation and it warned me, but I clicked paste assuming it was the one liner...)
[01:12] <Daskreech> ^_^
[01:12] <Daskreech> Edit is a safe click in that case.
[01:13] <Daskreech> if it is the one liner with an extra return char take it out if it's not well then it's not
[01:13] <spinatrahm> I will definitely do that next time
[01:13] <Daskreech> Pulse audio I guess?
[01:13] <spinatrahm> yes
[01:15] <spinatrahm> ok normal sound works again, phew. now the other thing
[01:15] <Daskreech> which was the other thing?
[01:15] <spinatrahm> I want to setup surround sound, but its dead complicated.
[01:17] <spinatrahm> My device (Realtek ALC889 with snd_hda_intel) is correctly recognized and analogue 5.1 does work when chosen in Phonon. BUT..
[01:17] <spinatrahm> I want to have it over digital out.
[01:17] <spinatrahm> And there is only a digi stereo device listed.
[01:19] <spinatrahm> Back in Windows it was the same but an option to encode a up to 7.1 stream in the stereo and have it working.
[01:20] <spinatrahm> How can I do that in ubu?
[01:24] <spinatrahm> Btw: why am I banned by default in the *buntu-de channels? Its the first time here.
[01:52] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: Hmm
[01:52] <Daskreech> Not sure
[01:52] <Daskreech>  /j ubuntu-de
[01:53] <Daskreech> Whhere does it put you when you join them?
[02:03] <spinatrahm> Daskreech: nowhere, server says im banned. When tyrying the offtopic chans i get put to overflow suffixed channel
[02:27] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: you can jump into #ubuntu-ops and ask I think
[02:27] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: I'm not seeing a lot of help for the 5.1 issue. you could ask in #alsa
[02:28] <spinatrahm> thx then, gonna ask there.
[02:35] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: is that at #alsa or #ubuntu-ops ?
[02:35] <spinatrahm> both for their specific purpose
[02:39] <Daskreech> Ok
[02:39] <Daskreech> Hope you get through
[02:44] <spinatrahm> Daskreech: I might have seriously found a thread with the exact thing I want in the Fedora board.
[02:45] <spinatrahm> If I get this right I will SO sign up in every linux-sound related wiki and add it.
[02:49] <Daskreech> spinatrahm: ha ha nice what does it say? Driver?
[02:53] <spinatrahm> Daskreech: no it needs lots of configfile tweaking
[02:53] <spinatrahm> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=231259
[03:01] <Daskreech> hmm that's interesting so the driver alreadsy supports it?
[03:08] <spinatrahm> yes but there is no default way of handling implemented
[03:08] <Daskreech> that kinda sucks
[03:09] <spinatrahm> was messing around and got something that sounds good, partially
[03:11] <spinatrahm> i made a alsa pcm with a52 encode plugin, pulseaudio picks it up automatically, several digi 5.1 are choosable in phonon and music gets perfectly upmixed with even awesome subwoofer channel
[03:11] <spinatrahm> i used vlc to test
[03:15] <Daskreech> cool
[03:30] <rahmspinat> Daskreech: well its still not fully working, actual movies with AC3 tracks wont get a passthrough. And it deactivates my headphones
[03:38] <Daskreech> Boo
[03:39]  * genii-around startles and spills hot coffee all over Daskreech
[03:43]  * Daskreech is glad he bought this anti-coffee lap
[03:45] <Daskreech> is genii-around ?
[03:45] <genii-around> Daskreech: Heh
[03:46]  * Resistance picks up Daskreech, moves Daskreech to the right by twelve inches, then continues on his merry way in the straight path he was on when he encountered Daskreech
[03:48]  * frogonwheels _so_ wants to say 'Resistance is Useless', but has no basis for the assertion ;)
[03:48] <Daskreech> Resistance: Isn't that counter to the intention of your name?
[03:49] <Resistance> Daskreech:  not in this case, you were in my internet pathways, like you are once again
[03:49]  * rahmspinat had the same idea as frogonwheels
[03:49]  * Resistance moves Daskreech out of the way again
[03:49] <Daskreech> That's not so must resistance as lag
[03:50] <Resistance> Daskreech:  give me a break, i've been driving for four hours >.>
[03:50] <rahmspinat> its 6 in the morning, i think i should go to sleep
[03:51] <Daskreech> Good night
[03:51] <Daskreech> Resistance: Granted
[04:26] <Daskreech> Is that resisting evil?
[04:27] <Daskreech> how are you genii-around ?
[04:27] <genii-around> Daskreech: Tired, doing construction/plumbing/electrical today at work
[04:43] <Daskreech> genii-around: disaster or routine?
[04:43] <genii-around> small project
[04:51] <aragorn> help here
[04:51] <aragorn> just install kubuntu
[04:51] <aragorn> how to show somthing like /exec -o on quasel??
[04:53] <aragorn> and one more thing, is that possible to make an "unread" filter on akregator??
[05:12] <Daskreech> aragorn: WHAT'S EXEC -O ?
[05:12] <Daskreech> whoops
[05:12] <Daskreech> you mean do system commands?
[05:12] <aragorn> yep
[05:12] <aragorn> i use xchat before
[05:13] <aragorn> and i use /exec -o inxi on it
[05:13] <aragorn> but i cant set /inxi without -o
[05:13] <aragorn> here on quaseel
[05:13] <aragorn> Graphics:  Card Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] X.Org 1.11.3 Res: 1366x768@60.0hz
[05:13] <aragorn>            GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM GLX Version 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 8.0.2) Direct Rendering No
[05:13] <aragorn> thats the result of /inxi -Gx
[05:14] <aragorn> on xchat, if i type /exec inxi -Gx, the result will only shown on my xchat
[05:15] <aragorn> but with quassel, it always posted.. how to change it??
[05:15] <almoxarife> aragorn, run it in terminal
[05:16] <Daskreech> aragorn: you want to run a command and see it on your screen but not in the channel?
[05:16] <aragorn> almoxarife: emmm..is there any chance to run it on quassel ?
[05:16] <aragorn> Daskreech: yep
[05:16] <aragorn> so i can check the result before -o it
[05:16] <aragorn> to see if the result is more then 3 lines or not
[05:17] <almoxarife> aragorn, sure, create a dummy channel, send yourself results in it, question is why?
[05:18] <aragorn> almoxarife: so i can check the result before -o it
[05:18] <almoxarife> aragorn, and terminal does not work because? nevermind, this sounds too much like re-inventing the wheel
[05:19] <aragorn> almoxarife: ah..
[05:19] <aragorn> ok i get the point
[05:19] <aragorn> thanks
[05:19] <aragorn> :D
[05:20] <aragorn> so next question then
[05:21] <aragorn> and one more thing, is that possible to make an "unread" filter on akregator??
[05:21] <aragorn> like unread folder on liferea
[05:22] <almoxarife> akregator already has 'unread' filter
[05:23] <aragorn> almoxarife: but i cant click an article, then make it disapear so i can see another "unread" easier
[05:23] <aragorn> wait.. i'll look again on its preferences
[05:24] <aragorn> if i set the status @ unread, it will show the unread articles, but it wont auto-refresh
[05:24] <aragorn> so the "read" one still there until i refresh it
[05:26] <almoxarife> aragorn, set auto-refresh to some value, use the 'status option (unread)' is an option
[05:27] <aragorn> still cant find that option..
[05:27] <aragorn> where is it almoxarife??
[05:28] <almoxarife> 'status' top right, next to search block
[05:30] <aragorn> almoxarife: yea, i can set that to unread.. but if i read an article, it wont dissapear
[07:17] <safridzal> i want a theme which not blue, any suggestion ??
[07:24] <Wizard> Install kdeartwrok, select different color scheme and Oxygen for Plasma.
[07:24] <Wizard> Voilá.
[07:29] <TequilaMex> hi
[07:30] <TequilaMex> i need to restore the default gtk/2 script on kubuntu
[07:31] <TequilaMex> anybody online now?
[07:33]  * Wizard .
[07:34] <Wizard> Kubuntu sets .gtkrc-2.0-kde4. You can remove it.
[07:34] <TequilaMex> i wish to restore it as default
[07:34] <Wizard> Or better, you can use System settings to set desired behaviour.
[07:34] <TequilaMex> wich is the complete path?
[07:34] <Wizard> ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[07:35] <TequilaMex> i deleted default settings by mistake
[07:35] <Wizard> You can manually set theme, then. Go to System settings → Application look → GTK
[07:35] <TequilaMex> well, that one is the path, but the script? where is it?
[07:36] <Wizard> Select Oxygen-gtk from the list, voilá/
[07:36] <Wizard> Script?
[07:36] <Magik> ребят
[07:36] <Wizard> nu?
[07:36] <Magik> как у волка поддержкеу куе отключить ?
[07:36] <Unit193> !ru
[07:38] <Wizard> TequilaMex, Script?
[07:38] <Wizard> You mean font? Or what?
[07:38] <TequilaMex> http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9312/wcid1.jpg
[07:39] <Wizard> Ah, this. I have no idea what does it do.
[07:39] <TequilaMex> i mean the script file set by default to load default gtk2 engine
[07:41] <Wizard> Hmm. I have Kubuntu lucid here and such settings doesn't exist.
[07:41] <Wizard> This script probably relies on seetings chosen in Application Look section.
[07:41] <Wizard> Have you tried doing what I've written?
[07:42] <TequilaMex> yes, but it doesn't appear into starting script section
[07:43] <TequilaMex> i mean the gtk2-engine script on kubuntu precise default
[07:43] <TequilaMex> as it was the 1st installation
[07:43] <TequilaMex> ... of kubuntu
[07:44] <Wizard> Magik, что такое "поддержкеу куе"? :D
[07:46] <TequilaMex> http://i.imgur.com/N78ef.png
[07:46] <TequilaMex> "pre-kde startup script"
[07:47] <sony> Hola
[07:49] <TequilaMex> http://linuxlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/kde-autostart-1.jpg
[07:50] <Wizard> Hi sony.
[07:50] <Wizard> TequilaMex, I have no idea what to do.
[07:51] <TequilaMex> i don't want to delete the ".kde" dir
[07:51] <TequilaMex> :p
[07:51] <TequilaMex> anybody knows wich is the startup settings file?
[07:59] <TequilaMex> anybody knows wich is the startup settings file?
[07:59] <TequilaMex> http://linuxlibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/kde-autostart-1.jpg
[07:59] <TequilaMex> on kubuntu precise
[08:06] <TequilaMex> could it be /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh ?
[08:27] <teodi> I'm sure you get this a lot, but here it goes.. how do I upgrade to 12.04? do-release-upgrade says it didn't find anything.. I'm currently on 11.10
[08:32] <genii-around> teodi: check to see if /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says normal or lts or never. Should probably be "normal"
[08:35] <Wizard> teodi, or run do-release-upgrade -d ;)
[08:36] <genii-around> Shouldn't be a development version now that it's in official release though
[08:36] <Wizard> http://wklej.org/id/752463/
[08:37] <Wizard> Dunno, works OK on my Lucid.
[08:37] <Wizard> Without -d it does nothing: http://wklej.org/id/752464/
[08:38] <genii-around> Wizard: Probably don't have "lts" as default in your /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades then
[08:39] <Wizard> Prompt=lts
[08:40] <genii-around> Weird
[08:41] <teodi> prompt=lts
[08:41] <teodi> but 12.04 is lts, so changing it to normal shouldn't make any difference... no?
[08:42] <safridzal> Wizard: my kubuntu wasnt blue anymore.. thanks..
[08:42] <Wizard> safridzal, You're welcome :)
[08:42] <genii-around> teodi: It might, since lts is usually for lts->lts and normal just brings you to the next one whatever that is
[08:43] <Wizard> safridzal, you can also install kde-style-skulpture, It's a really nice theme, which pulls in additional color schemes :)
[08:43] <teodi> genii-around: works like a charm
[08:43] <teodi> thanks to you all! :)
[08:45] <Wizard> What does gnomefreak do on Kubuntu channel? :>
[08:45] <safridzal> but i got another problem, after i install fglrx-updates, i cant edit desktop themes anymore
[08:45] <safridzal> it says: canot load library /usr/kde4/kcm_destoptheme.so bla blabla libGL.so1 cannot open shared object
[08:47] <Wizard> safridzal, :(
[08:47] <safridzal> what??
[08:47] <safridzal> you dont know then ?
[08:47] <safridzal> i still googling about it :D
[08:47] <Wizard> If fglrx-updates comes from default repository, it is a bug.
[08:47] <Wizard> Did you install it from repo?
[08:48] <safridzal> it is from default repo
[08:48] <Wizard> If so, check launchpad.net for bugs.
[08:48] <safridzal> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] bus-ID 00:01.0
[08:48] <safridzal>            X.Org 1.11.3 drivers ati,fglrx (unloaded: vesa,fbdev,radeon) Resolution 1366x768@60.0hz
[08:48] <safridzal>            GLX Renderer N/A GLX Version N/A Direct Rendering N/A
[08:48] <safridzal> nah
[08:48] <safridzal> wait
[08:48] <safridzal> it should show glx rendere
[08:48] <safridzal> r
[08:49] <safridzal> i think i know the problem
[08:49] <safridzal> brb
[08:53] <Mirrakor> Hi there I wanted to start an application, but it requires libQtMultimedia.so.4 is there any package that contains it or do I have to modify the source to run it?
[08:53] <Mirrakor> (libqt4-multimedia doesn't exist anymore)
[08:54] <Wizard> Quassel isn't comfortable at all, claropuzz.
[08:54] <Wizard> On precise?
[08:55] <Wizard> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=qtmultimedia&mode=filename&suite=precise&arch=any
[08:55] <Mirrakor> 11.10
[08:55] <Wizard> As far as I remember this API changed in Qt 4.7.
[08:55] <Mirrakor> Quite likely, yes
[08:56] <Mirrakor> so I'll adapt the source to qtmultimediakit and hope that's all it takes :D
[08:56] <Wizard> Mirrakor, as far as I remember it isn't really hard, I did that once when porting from Linux to Symbian ;)
[08:57] <Wizard> You are the developer of this app?
[08:57] <Wizard> If so (or if you gonna change the sources), #qt is a better place to ask.
[08:57] <Wizard> I'm not good in Qt :(
[08:58] <Wizard> At least not as good as I would want to be.
[09:01] <safridzal> Wizard:
[09:01] <safridzal> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] bus-ID 00:01.0
[09:01] <safridzal>            X.Org 1.11.3 drivers ati,fglrx (unloaded: vesa,fbdev,radeon) Resolution 1366x768@60.0hz
[09:01] <safridzal>            GLX Renderer AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics GLX Version 4.2.11627 - CPC Direct Rendering Yes
[09:02] <Wizard> Don't paste on channel.
[09:02] <safridzal> and now i get my theme working
[09:02] <Wizard> Good.
[09:02] <safridzal> im using /exec
[09:02] <Wizard> LOL.
[09:03] <safridzal> oh, i cant use it here then?? i thought if the result not more than 3 lines i can paste it here..
[09:03] <safridzal> reading the guidelines
[09:03] <safridzal> sorry..
[09:05] <Mirrakor> Wizard: No I just want to use that app :D
[09:05] <vexaxv> hey guys
[09:05] <Mirrakor> safridzal: something like /exec cat /proc/bar | wegetpaste would probably work
[09:06] <vexaxv> does anyone know why i cant download like any wallpapers or themes or login screens from the menu where it says "get new" under login screen settings > themes
[09:06] <Mirrakor> hey vexaxv
[09:06] <vexaxv> :)
[09:06] <Mirrakor> vexaxv: Gnome, Unity or KDE?
[09:06] <Mirrakor> ah, kubuntu channel :D
[09:06] <vexaxv> wellll..
[09:06] <vexaxv> kubuntu lol
[09:06] <Wizard> :D
[09:06] <Wizard> Mirrakor, what app is that?
[09:06] <Wizard> Maybe patches are cruising the Internets already?
[09:07] <noaXess> hey all
[09:07] <vexaxv> oh and another thing whenever i do get to download new themes not manually but via the theme lookup menu (if you know what im talking about the whole "get more or get new")
[09:07] <vexaxv> i cant uninstall alot of times
[09:07] <Mirrakor> hm, it works for me vexaxv :/ Does the terminal print anything?
[09:07] <noaXess> does anybody also have mor cpu usage if a second monitor is plugged in and the desktop is in twinview? nvidia graficcard.. on a asus notebook
[09:07] <vexaxv> how would i go about making the terminal print out why i cant download the logins creen theme lol
[09:08] <Mirrakor> Wizard: It's some Esperanto application
[09:08] <vexaxv> i just hate the Ariya theme
[09:09] <Wizard> vexaxv, apt-get install kdeartwork
[09:09] <vexaxv> Wizard, whats all do i get with that pkg?
[09:11] <Wizard> Icons, wallpapers and some plasma themes, iirc.
[09:11] <Wizard> Maybe you'll find something suitable then.
[09:11] <vexaxv> k thanks but does anyone know why i still cant download much?
[09:12] <Wizard> Sorry, I have no time for debugging your problem now :(
[09:12] <Wizard> Maybe somebody else will have time.
[09:12] <vexaxv> lol well thanks for the help
[09:12] <Wizard> Work :(
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Wizard: im an op and i use kubuntu as well as gnome xfce e17
[09:54] <Wizard> gnomefreak, That was a joke.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Wizard: :)
[09:59]  * gnomefreak cant find what im looking for 
[10:00] <Wizard> Personally I stopped KDE vs Gnome war when KDE 2 was released, when everybody was like: gimme my kfm back!
[10:01] <gnomefreak> be back in a minte smoke time and think
[10:02] <Wizard> :D
[10:02] <Wizard> gnomefreak, I quit :D
[10:09]  * gnomefreak dont want to quit yet,it helps me think
[10:10] <gnomefreak> but today it is failing me badly
[10:22] <gnomefreak> ok breakfast run for wife and i and maybe hopfully ill get an epiphany (oh how i doubt it)
[10:22] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[10:23] <userprecise> how do i keep system monitor tray icon expanded all the time on kubuntu desktop
[10:27] <userprecise> no one?
[10:41] <userprecise> IdleOne
[10:41] <userprecise> khaya
[10:47] <Wizard> userprecise, CRight click on tray icon arrow, select Settings → Atomatic hiding, deselect system monitor.
[10:47] <Wizard> I mean set it to "allways visible"
[10:54] <userprecise> Wizard: i can do this for panel in its settings not for system monitor. what i meant was i want it to be expanded. it is visible right now as an icon but i need to click on it everytime i want to see cpu load
[10:55] <Wizard> Ah, you meant system monitor plasmoid, right?
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:03] <userprecise> Wizard: what's a plasmoid. i meant the tray icon expanded  on right corner in panel
[11:04] <Wizard> Could you show mw a screenshot?
[11:04] <Wizard> s/mw/me
[11:06] <Wizard> userprecise, This is a plasmoid.
[11:07] <Wizard> You can move it to desktop. You won't have to click it anymore.
[11:08] <Wizard> And if you want to have a panel plugin, systemloadplugin suits this purpose better.
[11:08] <userprecise> cant i have it in panel itself and expanded
[11:12] <Wizard> userprecise, I'm not sure if it is possible.
[11:16] <userprecise> Wizard: can i move to desktop and expand it and keep it on top always? how do i do it
[11:17] <Wizard> Right click on the desktop → Add interface element → select it from list, than move to convenient place.
[11:21] <hateball> userprecise: you can rightclick the window title, advanced -> keep above
[11:21] <userprecise> interface element = widget?
[11:21] <hateball> but the system monitor should be on top by default
[11:21] <hateball> there are also lots of different plasma widgets you could add to the plasma desktop, to monitor stuff
[11:37] <userprecise> hateball: can you name some. for some reasons its not coming keep above all.
[11:42] <hateball> userprecise: Well I use Swedish locale so... but the names should be obvious
[11:42] <hateball> "monitor network" etc
[11:42] <hateball> and there are tooltip informations too
[11:52] <tim_heap> Hi all. Could anyone help me sort out some broken packages on my system?
[12:04] <Wizard> tim_heap, Sure.
[12:04] <Wizard> Shoot, I have a minute.
[12:04] <tim_heap> Thanks, Wizard
[12:05] <tim_heap> Basically: http://pastebin.com/XRBDUcfV
[12:05] <tim_heap> I think the problems started when I installed Wine. I've never had much luck installing wine without breaking things on an x86 system
[12:06] <Wizard> Oops.
[12:06] <Wizard> Multiarch? :>
[12:07] <tim_heap> I think it turned in to multiarch
[12:07] <tim_heap> I just `apt-get install wine1.4` and it goes and breaks everything by installing a bunch of i386 packages :(
[12:07] <Wizard> And I'm not sure if Kubuntu supports multiarch already :(
[12:08] <Wizard> Hmm.
[12:08] <tim_heap> Possibly not. That could be my problem. Wine by default installs some helper GUIs that launch programs for you
[12:08] <tim_heap> It installed a QT4 GUI for me. Possibly that was not x86 and thus the dependencies?
[12:08] <Wizard> Hmm. But wine exists for amd64 arch.
[12:09] <tim_heap> It says it does, but I think it lies :P
[12:09] <tim_heap> If the worst happens, I can just reinstall, but that is obviously not the optimal solution...
[12:10] <Wizard> Have you changed anything in sources.list before installing wine?
[12:10] <Wizard> I would wait for any traffic here or ask on some forum.
[12:10] <Wizard> And browse launchpad.
[12:10] <Wizard> Maybe it's a known issue and has been already reported.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> kubuntu supports multiarch , it's installed by default here
[12:11] <Wizard> Ah, BluesKaj, so maybe you will be able to helo tim_heap?
[12:12] <tim_heap> Hi BluesKaj, any help would be appreciated!
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Wizard, Helo , doubt it , I haven't used wine in yrs , so don't know how it behaves
[12:12] <tim_heap> I would be more than happy to just uninstall wine at this point, if it fixed things
[12:12] <Wizard> And I install only i386 systems.
[12:13] <Wizard> 64bit is for people with too much ram ;P
[12:13] <tim_heap> Unfortunately, `apt-get remove wine1.4` it complains it can not do anything because of the broken packages
[12:13] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, what did you use wine for ?
[12:13] <Wizard> tim_heap, try removing this x86 packages at first
[12:14] <tim_heap> I was trying to play some games, hoping that the support had gotten better. Nothing overly important
[12:14] <BluesKaj> tim_heap,  run sudo dpkg -configure -a  , then update
[12:15] <tim_heap> BluesKaj: No luck: http://pastebin.com/KW8B2WcA
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Wizard, 64 bit is for ppl with 64bit systems
[12:16] <tim_heap> And just uninstalling them does not work: http://pastebin.com/Qtv3mxWk
[12:16] <Wizard> I have 64bit systems and I consequently install x86 on them.
[12:16] <Wizard> :<
[12:17] <Wizard> tim_heap, use dpkg and try to remove them manually.
[12:19] <tim_heap> Wizard: It got rid of libqt4-designer:i386, but not the others http://pastebin.com/97EMB8aY
[12:19] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, also run ,sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[12:19]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[12:19] <tim_heap> Done. What does that one do?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> clears out broken packages
[12:23] <tim_heap> Ah well, thanks for the help.
[12:23] <tim_heap> Ill take it to the sysadmin at work tomorrow. If he cant help, reinstall time.
[12:25] <tim_heap> Separate /home partitions mean that a reinstall does not really bother me anyways. Just apt-get install a bunch of packages after the install and I am basically back where I am now anyways - except with a working system :P
[12:26] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, didn't the commands works ?
[12:26] <tim_heap> Nope. dpkg --clear-avail printed no input, but may have worked
[12:26] <tim_heap> but dpkg -r <packages...> still failed
[12:27] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, itwon't give any output , only if there are errors
[12:27] <tim_heap> [22:15:23] <tim_heap> BluesKaj: No luck: http://pastebin.com/KW8B2WcA
[12:28] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, clear-avail didn't clear them ?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> more info needed here ..it's difficult to help without feedback in the proper sequence
[12:29] <tim_heap> No. After running clear-avail things are still broken.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, then you have broken dependencies that are required by other installed apps
[12:32] <tim_heap> Yea. I've no idea how to fix it either. I knew I shouldn't have installed wine. It was all fine until I installed it. I shall not be so foolish next time :)
[12:34] <BluesKaj> tim_heap, next time remove the gamnes first , then wine
[12:35] <tim_heap> Next time, I just will not install wine.
[12:39] <FlashDeluxe> how can i deactivate the popup message, that the new kubuntu version is available?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> in your package manager
[12:43]  * Wizard yawns.
[13:09] <Wizard> http://kwejk.pl/obrazek/1162938/jak,zhackowac,starego,windowsa.html
[13:09] <Wizard> :D
[13:31] <Cenbe> Is there any way to keep the popup "printer xxx may not be connected" from appearing when I'm at work (it's the printer on my home network)?
[13:33] <sinthetek> i found what was wrong with my screenlock
[13:34] <sinthetek> apparently i'd disabled krunner from starting automatically at login and it is necessary for the icons/hotkey to work
[13:39] <Wizard> Hmm. Kscd sucks.
[13:40] <Wizard> Is there any better cd player out there?
[13:40] <kbroulik> Wizard: amarok? :D
[13:40] <Wizard> Doesn't start. Strange.
[13:41] <kbroulik> Wizard: already running as zombie?
[13:41] <kbroulik> or the Amazon setup dialog being in background due to focus stealing prevention?
[13:41] <Wizard> Not installed. o_O
[13:41] <kbroulik> lol.
[13:41] <kbroulik> yeah that could also be :P
[13:41] <Wizard> Than why I see it in K-menu and Plugged devices actions?!
[13:43] <kbroulik> probably unclean uninstalled or uninstalled partially
[13:44] <kbroulik> (don't know whether a simple apt remove will also remove service desktop files)
[13:44] <Wizard> Hmm. Doesn't play.
[13:45] <Wizard> Hmm. Strange. Alot more songs is on data part in flac.
[13:45] <danielo> hey guy
[13:45] <Wizard> Hi danielo.
[13:45] <danielo> I would like to ask about  plasma-desktop crach
[13:45] <danielo> it is happenning to often for me
[13:46] <danielo> and after that I am getting strange empty entries in systray
[13:47] <Wizard> Nah, amarok is big and unhandy :(
[13:47] <danielo> something like :1.112/org/kde/statusnotifieritem/1
[13:47] <danielo> etc
[13:47] <Wizard> Anything simpler?
[13:48] <danielo> I can recomende qmmp
[13:48] <danielo> it is like winamp
[13:48] <danielo> quite simple
[13:48] <Wizard> It doesn't play flac :D
[13:48] <danielo> where I can paste print screen
[13:48] <Wizard> LOL.
[13:48] <danielo> ?
[13:48] <danielo> it does I think so
[13:49] <danielo> i dont have flac.
[13:49] <danielo> You can use soundkonverter to convert it to mp3 :P
[13:49] <Wizard> Nah. I have an audio cd. It doesn't play this too
[13:49] <Wizard> My god.
[13:50] <Wizard> Kscd sucks, but at least works :)
[13:54] <danielo> see here
[13:54] <danielo> http://www.flickr.com/photos/69767255@N06/7196052380/
[13:54] <kbroulik> any idea why pm-suspend (and so the GUI suspend options and lid closing) don't work but the little s2ram tool works flawlessly?
[14:05] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:05] <kbroulik> okay, successfully dirty workarounded the problem :(
[14:08] <BluesKaj> workarounded , another new word for the english dictionary:)
[14:09] <lordievader> It should be included, it sounds nice :)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> no need for the past tense on the word , but workedaround works :)
[14:12] <kbroulik> :P
[14:12] <kbroulik> well I wouldn't have done it if it (STR) had not stopped working (screw you past tenses)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> kbroulik, STR ? ..have you no sense of humour , just joking
[14:14] <kbroulik> Suspend To Ram
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:14] <kbroulik> aka Standby :P
[14:14] <lordievader> aka sleep
[14:15] <kbroulik> aka Ruhezustand although I always associate Hibernate with it
[14:15] <lordievader> lol, seriously they just need one word to refer to it, not a million...
[14:15] <kbroulik> at least now my notebook suspends fine when I close the lid. the other option s(aka manually clicking Suspend) dont… but I'll live with that :)
[14:16] <lordievader> I always use the keyboard shortcut (but that is also because the kde suspend thingie didn't work... so i used a script with pm-suspend)
[14:17] <kbroulik> the keyboard shortcut also doesn't … it suddenly stopped working a few days ago
[14:17] <lordievader> Odd
[14:17] <kbroulik> I suspended like 3 times, and after the 4th it stoped working
[14:18] <kbroulik> doesn't matter if I click Suspend in the battery applet, do a dbus call to solid powermanagement, close the lid, or do a sudo pm-suspend
[14:18] <kbroulik> all that happens is WiFi and Sound turn off, just to turn back on after 5 seconds and I am back where I left
[14:18] <lordievader> With me the kde suspend it half worked, it turned off the display and everything but it keeps the cpu on and the fan or something
[14:18] <lordievader> And it wouldn't respond to anything anymore...
[14:19]  * BluesKaj wonders how the old acer laptop will behave when my daughter returns it and I install kubuntu
[14:19] <kbroulik> now that I manually unload the radeon driver which should not be loaded in the first place (it'S blacklisted!) resume takes 2 seconds :)
[14:20] <kbroulik> (before it spit out lots of "atombios stuck in a loop" things and it took longer to resume than a clean startup (SSD :P))
[14:21] <kbroulik> and the most stupidest (yes, that is intentional) decision was that my 13" Acer has a ALPS touchpad that sucks, whereas the 14" and 15" have a Synaptics that works OOTB like a charm
[14:23] <BluesKaj> kbroulik, yup ,ran 10.04 on the acer 14" (Ithink) and synptiks worked fien altho I prefer using a real mouse anyway
[14:24] <BluesKaj> never liked touchpads
[14:32] <kbroulik> BluesKaj: but on the 13" I tried _everything_ but multitouch (or at least two finger scrolling) is just not working…
[14:34] <lordievader> kbroulik: Does the touchpad support it?
[14:35] <kbroulik> lordievader: it does but ALPS refuses to give out specifications and/or APIs
[14:35] <kbroulik> it works on Windows
[14:35] <lordievader> That sucks...
[14:35] <kbroulik> yes
[14:36] <kbroulik> ALPS says Dell is responsible for this while Dell says they're just using what ALPS provides
[14:36] <kbroulik> the most recent drivers at least have some capabilities for Dell but my Acer seems a bit exotic in that term :(
[14:36] <kbroulik> if I had known that inbeforehand I would've bought the 14" … (which also has 4 USB ports instead of 3 and a dvd drive)
[14:39] <BluesKaj> kbroulik, my acer 14" is 4 yrs old , so it's no reference for newer ones
[14:40] <kbroulik> BluesKaj: my sister's boyfriend has a 17" Acer, which is about the same generation as mine (1.5 yrs) and at his notebook everything worked out of the box. WiFi, multitouch touchpad, Bluetooth, etc … :(
[14:45] <coder2> Hello. Could anyone help me with "sticky" Alt+tab or Ctrl+Shift? That annoyance make my system almost unusable.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> kbroulik, yeah , my acer 4630 did the same ...had to install wicd for wifi on 9.10,  but 10.04 the network manager found the wifi broadcast and the drivers configured with out any probs to WPA-PSK , all other kernel source drivers like video and audio worked out of the box too
[14:48] <coder2> The problem is: When I press alt+tab quickly several times "alt" stucks in "pressed" logical state. I have to press and release alt another time to get it back in normal state. The same problem with shift and control.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> acer is one of the most linux freindly mfgs of pcs/and laptops
[14:56] <BluesKaj> coder2, check systemsettings>input devices>keyboard>advanced>ctrlkey position
[14:58] <coder2> BluesKaj: which checkbox should be checked ? Now all of then are unchecked.
[14:58] <noaXess> hey
[14:58] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj
[14:58] <noaXess> does anybody also have more cpu/xorg usage if a second monitor is plugged in and the desktop is in twinview? nvidia graficcard.. on a asus notebook
[14:59] <noaXess> my cpu is now on 57-60°.. if i add the second monitor as twinview then cpu goes up to 70-80°
[14:59] <noaXess> any idea?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> coder2, try checking and unchecking ,,,you have to experiment to find the right combo
[15:01] <coder2> BluesKaj, thanks. I'll try/
[15:01] <lordievader> noaXess: I have a HP notebook here with an intel gfx card and no cpu that is 60% or degrees
[15:01] <noaXess> lordievader: so you also work with twinview?
[15:02] <noaXess> or dual monitor?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> noaXess, that makes sense since most laptop gpus aren't made for handling 2 monitors directly
[15:02] <lordievader> noaXess: It is a dual monitor setup, what do you mean with twinview precisely? Moving a window from screen to screen? Then yes.
[15:03] <noaXess> BluesKaj: if i work with dual monitors sometimes i se the xorg process is going up to 80%+ cpu usage..
[15:03] <noaXess> lordievader: yes ;)
[15:03] <noaXess> one screen two monitors.. no mirroring
[15:03] <noaXess> BluesKaj: so you mean, so change to solve that with any setting/flag?
[15:06] <lordievader> noaXess: Yes that is the mode I use.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> hight cpu is a result , noaXess , that's what one can expect with a laptop graphics card ...the cpu has to carry part of the load since the gpu can't handle it all
[15:06] <noaXess> BluesKaj: ok.. thought today's laptop gpu's can handle that...
[15:07] <BluesKaj> noaXess, well , it also depends on the content of course
[15:08] <xieyi> The indicator of ibus google pinyin can't show up when type chinese in libreoffice. Has anyone know how to solve the problem?
[15:09] <xieyi> I am using kubuntu 12.04
[15:09] <noaXess> BluesKaj: trying x-updates ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[15:12] <noaXess> be back soon
[15:19] <BluesKaj> noaXess, I use the xorg-edgers ppa for the experimental 302 nvidia driver for the 7600gt card ...seems to work well so far on 12.10 , but it does require a patch
[15:20] <noaXess> BluesKaj: installed that one from x-swat... have to check it with dual setup.. maybe
[15:23] <sofia> !list
[15:23] <sofia> cioao
[15:23] <sofia> ciao
[15:25] <Max_452> I just added a second user on my PC running Kubuntu 12.04. I moved some  files over to the other account, but when I try to rename the files, the "Rename" feature is grayed out. How do I fix this?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Max_452,the other users need permissions to rename the files
[15:29] <Max_452> BluesKaj: how do I set the permissions?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> include rw permissions for the user in properties , adavanced permissions , afaik ...I'm the only user on this pc so I'm not real sure about it
[15:33] <Max_452> BluesKaj: Thank you. I will switch back over to my original account and change that
[15:46] <teodi> hi... i'm trying to change my login screen, but it doesn't appear in themes even though it's installed... 12.04, but i've had this problem even before.
[15:46] <cyborg_> hey i can't connect with my mobile b/band with knetworkmanager
[15:47] <lordievader> teodi: Try installing them manually, you can download them from kde-look.org.
[15:52] <teodi> lordievader: still getting not a valid KDM archive...
[15:54] <lordievader> teodi: You could also extract it to /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes that is where the themes are kept.
[15:59] <teodi> lordievader: hmm, it still doesn't appear anywhere
[15:59] <lordievader> teodi: Is it a valid kdm theme?
[15:59] <teodi> lordievader: how do I find out?
[15:59] <lordievader> teodi: Could you send me a link to it?
[16:00] <teodi> lordievader: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/login-scan+%27fusion%27?content=26718
[16:00] <teodi> lordievader: i've tried this one and several others
[16:01] <BluesKaj> teodi, look in /home/downloads
[16:01] <lordievader> teodi: The reason is probably that this is a kdm3 theme while you are probably using kdm4
[16:02] <lordievader> teodi: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=41
[16:02] <lordievader> teodi: This is a similair theme: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Palmscan+?content=126482
[16:03] <teodi> lordievader: just trying it..
[16:06] <teodi> lordievader: thanks a lot... should have figured it out myself, though
[16:07] <lordievader> teodi: No problem, that is the reason this IRC channel exists :)
[16:07] <teodi> lordievader: also, i remember editing a config file to edit background picture of grub... any idea what the file was?
[16:08] <lordievader> teodi: I use grub-customizer for that, makes it easier (google it, you'll need a ppa to install it)
[16:08] <teodi> lordievader: thanks ;)
[16:08] <lordievader> teodi: Also make sure the image is a 640X480 TGA, anything else failed on me.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> some themes appear to install from the theme managers , but fsail without any errors or notification
[16:09] <BluesKaj> they just don't appear in the list
[16:10] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:10] <lordievader> Yeah the theme manager isn't the best.
[16:50] <cancer> almoxarife: Hi
[16:51] <cancerr> i want to burn kubuntu iso to Usb. HOW?
[16:51] <bazhang> !unetbootin | cancerr
[16:52] <cancerr> i'm currently using xp.
[16:53] <cancerr> bazhang: i'm currently using xp.
[16:53] <bazhang> cancerr, unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have versions for windows
[16:54] <cancerr> bazhang: i don't get much from there. is there any software that can burn kubuntu ISO on usb.
[16:54] <bazhang> cancerr, I just told you
[16:55] <bazhang> cancerr, the links show it very clearly.
[16:57] <cancerr> bazhang: Thanks, downloading Unetbootin for Windows, Hope it will work fine. :)
[17:00] <cancerr> bazhang: a little confussion. what about the version. i have file named "kubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso" and the version unetbootin showing are with 'netinstall' 'live' & 'hdmedia'. Which one to use
[17:00] <cancerr> bazhang: a little confussion. what about the version. i have file named "kubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso" and the version unetbootin showing are with 'netinstall' 'live' & 'hdmedia'. Which one to use?
[17:00] <bazhang> cancerr, live
[17:01] <cancerr> bazhang: live stand for kind of offline mode installaion.....
[17:02] <bazhang> cancerr, live = desktop
[17:02] <cancerr> bazhang: OK, thanks.
[17:03] <cancerr> bazhang: it's downloading files. i already have an ISO.
[17:04] <cancerr> bazhang: ok. figured it.
[17:04] <bazhang> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#install
[17:04] <cancerr> bazhang: Thanks n tc
[17:05] <bazhang> cancerr, ^
[17:06] <cancerr> bazhang: i didn't choosed the distributor and it's version. simply given it Iso location and it's now extracting & copying
[17:06] <cancerr> BYE
[17:30] <cancerr> bazhang: it's taking too long while booting from usb. it stuck on 'Attempting to boot from usb'
[17:30] <cancerr> almoxarife:
[17:31] <cancerr> hello
[17:32] <Wizard> Hmm.. Ktorretnt and transmission DOS my wifi router when downloading :(
[17:33] <Wizard> Bad luck :(
[17:33] <cancerr> taking too long while booting from usb. it stuck on 'Attempting to boot from usb'
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[17:35] <FloodBotK1> BluesKaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <BluesKaj> oops... KB was upside sown in my chair
[17:36] <BluesKaj> it's a wireless , so it gets too portable sometimes :)
[17:39] <cancerr> taking too long while booting from usb. it stuck on 'Attempting to boot from usb'
[17:46] <Wizard> BluesKaj: lol
[17:51] <cancerrr> bazhang: boot hanged i created from unetbootin
[17:52] <cancerrr> Anyone there?
[17:52]  * Wizard .
[17:53] <cancerrr> Wizard: :) can you help?
[17:53] <Wizard> With what? :>
[17:54] <Wizard> Sorry, I've just stopped cursing on KDE Forums ;P
[17:54] <BluesKaj> cancerrr, no cdrom drive?
[17:55] <cancerrr> Wizard: i already have corrupted kubuntu installed, but that won't boot in Graphic mode. I now have created usb via Unetbootin and it's not boot from usb. it hangs on 'attempting to boot from usb'
[17:55] <cancerrr> blueskaj: yes, i do. but don't have the cd to use....
[17:56] <BluesKaj> cancerrr, cdrws are your friend
[17:57] <cancerrr> blueskaj: yep they are, when you have them in right time at right place. usb is only now a source.....
[17:57] <cancerrr> Wizard: any spell to cast :)
[17:57] <Wizard> cancerrr: Have you tried dd?
[17:57] <cancerrr> wizard: dd?
[17:58] <Wizard> Yeah, you download ISO and just move the image to USB drive with dd.
[17:58] <Wizard> Newer machines can boot it.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> afaik unetbootin is the best method for usb installs ...could be a hardware recognition problem
[17:59] <cancerrr> wizard: my machine do support usb boot, even previous version is also installed via usb.
[18:00] <Wizard> IMO, dd works.
[18:00] <cancerrr> wizard | blueskaj: i don't know it took a little long. do it take time 5-10 minutes to boot from usb?
[18:01] <cancerrr> Wizard: can you please tell what 'dd' is?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> cancerrr, that's slow
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !dd
[18:01] <BluesKaj> hmm no factoid for dd
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !info dd
[18:02] <Wizard> dd is a tool, simmilar to cp, it copies file byte by byte to destination.
[18:02] <Wizard> If the destination is a device, it moves file to a device.
[18:03] <Wizard> Simple as going to heaven: dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/your_usb_drive
[18:03] <Wizard> Remember to *unmount* the device before doing that and to double check if you use proper device.
[18:04] <Wizard> It is easy to use your main hard drive by accident.
[18:04] <Wizard> Who used sda instead sdb with dd hands up!
[18:04] <Wizard> \o/
[18:05] <BluesKaj> cancerrr, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj9H03rVef4
[18:05] <Wizard> LOL.
[18:06] <Wizard> Some moron made a VIDEO out of it? :D
[18:06] <Wizard> Where is this world going?
[18:06] <Wizard> Soon I will need flashplayer to read man pages.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> everbody wants to be on youtube :)
[18:07] <Wizard> Geek porn ;)
[18:07] <Wizard> Diva Bigtit reads strip manual page ;]
[18:07] <jussi01> Wizard: please try to keep it family friendly
[18:07] <BluesKaj> then I'm not a geek ... never think of myself as one either
[18:08] <Wizard> jussi01: K.
[18:08] <jussi01> thanks :)
[18:09] <BluesKaj> jussi01, got key words set up on your chat monitor ?
[18:10] <Wizard> OK, if I can't talk about brest here, time to install Kubuntu on another notebook.
[18:12] <BluesKaj> Wizard, ??
[18:13] <Wizard> I have an Apple Powerbook which needs working system immediately.
[18:13] <Wizard> Kubuntu will do the trick, I think.
[18:29] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[18:30] <m_tadeu> I'm using knetworkmanager to manage my umts connection. Dispite I'm setting the PIN to be stored, it asks me for it everytime I try to connect
[18:32] <m_tadeu> is there a way to solve this?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, have you tried modemmanager
[18:39] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj: well it's already installed
[18:40] <BluesKaj> alt+f2 , modemmanager , see what options it offers , m_tadeu
[18:41] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj: none...is it modem-manager?
[18:55] <Artemios> Hi people
[18:57] <Artemios> I have a problem with Kubuntu. This problem is same with all Linuxes. My desktop refresh rate is 60, same as at windows is, but I feel like it's not 60... Can anybody help me?
[18:57] <lordievader> Artemios: Why do you feel like it is not 60?
[19:00] <Artemios> lordievader: my eyes are tired...
[19:00] <Artemios> lordievader: I feel that
[19:01] <Artemios> At windows I have 60, at linux 59,9
[19:03] <lordievader> Artemios: Could you run xrandr for me please? It might be running at 59.9
[19:03] <DexterF_> hi
[19:04] <Artemios> lordievader: how can I show you the result?
[19:04] <lordievader> !paste | Artemios
[19:04] <DexterF_> upgraded to 12.04, KDE: all black on black. see some window borders, everythign else is black. guess the visual effects are the problem, its an old gf fx5200, maybe the driver acts up.
[19:04] <DexterF_> im now on xfce, works fine, supports my theory. how can I disable visual effects in kde4 now from within xfce?
[19:05] <Artemios> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/987695/
[19:06] <lordievader> DexterF_: The key combo alt + shift + F12 should disable the desktop effects.
[19:06] <lordievader> Artemios: It is indeed running at 59.9 Hz
[19:07] <Artemios> lordievader: so, what have I to do?
[19:08] <lordievader> Artemios: You could try this guide to see if you can force the 60 Hz mode: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[19:08] <Artemios> lordievader: thank you
[19:09] <DexterF_> lordievader: will try, thanks
[19:09] <DexterF_> lordievader: permanently?
[19:10] <lordievader> Artemios: You might have to put it in a script and let that launch on login, for me it isn't quite permanent...
[19:10] <lordievader> Quite annoying...
[19:10] <sky100> i wan to get kubuntu with xp ... i wanted to install it on file free 80Gb partition
[19:10] <sky100> want*
[19:10] <Artemios> lordievader: ok
[19:10] <sky100> free*
[19:11] <sky100> while partitioning while installaing kubuntu .. i created  like /swap , /root & / home
[19:14] <sky100> but after that when i try to hit INSTALL NOW .. it says " NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED " pls. correct this in partition table "
[19:14] <sky100> pls help me
[19:14] <sky100> i cant figure this
[19:14] <lordievader> sky100: Have you created a partition that is mounted in / ?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> sky100, no need for /root , only / , it's root
[19:17] <sky100> i had put /  before swap & home
[19:18] <sky100> i think thats wrong & had used ext4 file system for swap.. which i guess is also wrong
[19:19] <BluesKaj> did you choose /  or  /root  ?  , because /root will error
[19:19] <BluesKaj> swap is just swap
[19:19] <BluesKaj> not ext
[19:21] <sky100> yes . BluesKaj
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !partitioning | sky100
[19:22] <sky100> i did choose  like / swap , / root , / home
[19:22] <sky100> al \l in ext 4 file system
[19:22] <sky100> all*
[19:22] <sky100> BluesKaj,
[19:22] <sky100> may be i just went wrong
[19:23] <lordievader> sky100: usually / and /home are in EXT4
[19:23] <BluesKaj> sky100, all you need is / , /home and swap
[19:24] <BluesKaj> and of course , ntfs for windows if required
[19:24] <sky100> ok
[19:26] <BluesKaj> sky100, always install windows first , then kubuntu
[19:26] <lordievader> Windows overwrites linux's bootloader.
[19:26] <BluesKaj> yup
[19:26] <lordievader> In other words, you can no longer boot to linux.
[19:29] <DexterF_> hi
[19:30] <DexterF_> had trouble with flash on 10.04. upgraded to 12.04. guess what: flash won't play
[19:30] <DexterF_> help?
[19:30] <sky100> i have xp installed
[19:31] <sky100> pls suggest as to what i shd type at the Mount point
[19:31] <sky100> like swap , ho e & /root ?
[19:31] <sky100> home*
[19:33] <DexterF_> sky100: freed up space for kubuntu?
[19:33] <sky100> yes
[19:33] <sky100> i have 80Gb full free
[19:33] <sky100> partition
[19:33] <DexterF_> you need 3 partitions: one for /, one for home, one for swap.
[19:34] <sky100> yep i knhow
[19:34] <BluesKaj> sky100, for the OS , type  / , for home dir , type /home , for swap , type swap
[19:34] <sky100> know
[19:34] <DexterF_> let's say 20GB / , another 2GB swap, rest home
[19:34] <sky100> yea
[19:34] <DexterF_> sky100: then you need to know tghe device names, like /dev/sdb1, 5 ,6 etc
[19:34] <sky100> i did that way
[19:35] <DexterF_> point / at whatever partiion you wan that 20gb or whatever should be
[19:35] <BluesKaj> DexterF_, the dev/sdX will be assigned by the OS
[19:38] <DexterF_> which should I use:
[19:38] <DexterF_>   adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer
[19:42] <BluesKaj> DexterF_, i use the adobe-flashplayer from adobe's site and extract and copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins...seems to be working so far
[19:43] <|K-F|D4rk-5ide> Buenas!!!
[19:44] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: does not work. wont load the plugin
[19:44] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: about:plugins shows the plugin tho
[19:44] <DexterF_> idea?
[19:44] <sky100> ok BluesKaj & DexterF_  thanx for ya help
[19:45] <sky100> & also lordievader  to u as well
[19:45] <sky100> hope to catch with that tomorrow
[19:45] <sky100> gtg
[19:45] <sky100> cya ll
[19:45] <sky100> all*
[19:45] <FloodBotK1> sky100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <sky100> could not follow what floodbot indicated
[19:46] <sky100> anyway
[19:47] <BluesKaj> DexterF_,  close the browser , either firefox or chrome or even rekonq , then open it again . or might even have to relogin
[19:47] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: lemme try....
[19:49] <|K-F|D4rk-5ide> anyone can tell me how to disable kubuntu portfolio ... thanks
[19:50] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: restarted X, still no go
[19:50] <DexterF_> plugin wont load
[19:50] <BluesKaj> which plugin DexterF_
[19:51] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: adobe-flashplugin
[19:51] <BluesKaj> gimme a url ...is it flash like youtube?
[19:52] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: yes, any youtube
[19:54] <BluesKaj> then try the flashplugin installer , then update, DexterF_ ...or did you not copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ?
[19:55] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: I did!
[19:55] <DexterF_> myspace even says: you have flash 11 r202
[19:55] <DexterF_> but fails
[19:55] <DexterF_> like on 10.04
[19:55] <DexterF_> should I remove the manual copy before I try the other flash package?
[19:58] <chriss1111> Ich komm zum Punkt Ich suche libusb unter Ubuntu 12.04
[19:58] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: I think the sound system does not work at all
[19:59] <DexterF_> smplayer plays a wav file but I hear nothing. speakers are on. it mentioned to remove the via8367 onboard sound
[19:59] <rork> !de | chriss1111
[19:59] <chriss1111> So long
[19:59] <rork> !find libusb | chriss1111
[20:01] <chriss1111> Thanks
[20:02] <BluesKaj> DexterF_, you should have made sure you had the right audio and graphics drivers installed before asking about flash
[20:07] <DexterF_> and how the heck do I see which audio hardware kde4/phonon uses? "standard audio device", wth
[20:07] <DexterF_> BluesKaj: well, then my next goal: getting audio to work. can one uninstall pulse? always been a pest
[20:11] <BluesKaj> you can try running without pulse if you just use onboard audio , it used to work on my nvidia onboard audio , but since I installed apci card I need pulse for webaudio
[20:11] <BluesKaj> DexterF_, ^
[21:24] <DexterF> I hate flash
[21:26] <DexterF> BluesKaj: danced the raindance, cast the runes, sacrificed a chicken - cant get the sodding flash working. now installed gnash for the moment but half the sites the owner uses wont work with it
[21:29] <BluesKaj> DexterF, instead of gnash try klash , but also make sure you have mozilla-flashplugin installed in /etc/alternatives
[21:33] <sysop3> hi guys.congrats on 12.04, totally smooth upgrade this time. no problems. love that my bluetooth headset works. I am very very happy.
[21:34] <BluesKaj> sysop3, glad to hear that
[21:35] <sysop3> but there is one tiny problem, and its a wierd one, when I am watching flv videos that are in a playlist, youtube, cracked.com, doesnt matter, and it automatically goes to the next video kmix crashes. it doesnt affect the audio so its not a huge problem, I just hit restart and go on.
[21:35] <DexterF> BluesKaj: will keep that in mind, ain't my machine tho so that'll have to wait till I next work on it.
[21:36] <BluesKaj> DexterF, 12.04 ?
[21:36] <DexterF> BluesKaj: yup
[21:37] <BluesKaj> sysop3, there's a small bug in kmix .. an update/upgrade should fix that
[21:42] <DexterF> is there a contactmail address for adobe? I want to insult them
[21:43] <DexterF> I noticed that while the nvidia-173 is installed (FX5200) it still loads nouveau. do nouveau and flash get along?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> DexterF, run glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[21:48] <BluesKaj> DexterF, need to know which gfz driver/module is installed as default
[21:48] <BluesKaj> grfx
[21:49] <DexterF> BluesKaj: nouveau was installed when I looked, then I installed nvidia-173. which drew dkms as a dep. but... I did not install nvidia-173-update, I think
[21:57] <BluesKaj> DexterF, nouveau is the default driver unless recommended driver is activated in system >addtional drivers , IME
[21:59] <DexterF> BluesKaj: I just read that nvidia is still working on a port of the 173 driver to match the new API.
[21:59] <DexterF> it's an FX5200, so really old
[22:02] <BluesKaj> ok. gotta go ....later
[22:19] <JMichael|work> why are so many fewer mirrors hosting kubuntu images for download now?
[22:30] <ybit> i'd like to rate limit my existing connection... halp!
[22:53] <joey_> How do you manufally install themes/etc. on kubu 12.04?? I know that in 11.10, theres an option beside"get new theme", but in 12.04, such option is not there(example, downlosading from kde-look)
[22:55] <xixor> sup
[23:00] <xixor> so, do packages changes much during the 6 month life span of a *buntu release?
[23:00] <xixor> or is it basically bug releases, with major updates saved for the next release to occur in 6 months time?
[23:11] <EvilResistance> xixor:  define "change"
[23:11] <xixor> 4.x vs 4.8.x
[23:11] <EvilResistance> version changes don't usually occur outside of major secuirty fixes, i know kernels are updated for security fixes
[23:12] <EvilResistance> bug fixes if they're major enough get included either in main or in the updates repos
[23:13] <xixor> ok
[23:15] <EvilResistance> xixor:  but that's not Kubuntu specific, that's across all the Ubuntu (and official derivatives) repos (since those repos are one in the same, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, etc.)
[23:16] <xixor> so all the *buntus share a common package tree pretty much?
[23:17] <EvilResistance> depends on what you mean by "package tree"
[23:17] <xixor> I don't know what I mean by it
[23:17] <EvilResistance> kubuntu-desktop refers to a different set of packages than say ubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <EvilResistance> or xubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <xixor> yes
[23:17] <EvilResistance> but the overall repositories are the same, in that all the packages referenced by all the desktop applications exists available to each
[23:17] <xixor> but each *buntu doesn't maintain and patch it's own say... firefox package, or kernel
[23:17] <EvilResistance> indeed
[23:18] <EvilResistance> so the kernel for Kubuntu or Xubuntu will match the kernel of Ubuntu or Lubuntu, (i think)
[23:19] <EvilResistance> but for your original question about package changes, the answer is "It Depends, but usually not outside of major security fixes or bug fixes"
[23:20] <xixor> so if I install ubuntu, but then instead kde, do I get all the same packages that would be in kubuntu for instance?