[01:12] <vexati0n> does anyone know how to force ubuntu to use a specific driver with xorg.conf?
[01:12] <vexati0n> i've specified 'nouveau' but lightdm won't start
[01:12] <vexati0n> with the nvidia driver, the screen stays black.
[01:22] <stlsaint> vexati0n: setting it in xorg.conf should force it.
[01:22] <stlsaint> make sure you are placing it in the right section
[01:30] <vexati0n> stlsaint: if i set the driver in xorg to "nouveau," lightdm won't even start.
[01:30] <vexati0n> and neither will X by itself
[01:31] <vexati0n> and if i purge the nvidia driver, the resolution is stuck at 1024x768 and there's no direct rendering available - so it's using mesa and not nouveau.
[01:31] <stlsaint> vexati0n: what graphics card are you using?
[01:32] <vexati0n> it's a geforce go 6150
[01:32] <vexati0n> nouveau works just fine on the live cd
[01:34] <jaxa> so partitioned 8gigs of swap space and found out later that ubuntu disabled hibernate :/
[01:35] <jaxa> bah
[01:51] <stlsaint> vexati0n: but not on live install?
[01:52] <stlsaint> jaxa: meh
[01:56] <vexati0n> stlsaint: after updating everything, it quits working. i just installed the x-updates stuff (295.49) and now the nvidia module won't even load
[01:56] <vexati0n> lightdm crashes, Xorg log says "unable to initialize the nvidia kernel module"
[02:00] <vexati0n> arggh.. jesus F... so i rebooted and the system auto-blacklisted the nvidia module. wtf
[02:03] <vexati0n> anyway it's fixed now
[02:18] <stlsaint> ha
[02:18] <stlsaint> ok
[02:18] <stlsaint> was looking up something
[09:09] <s-fox> Hello
[09:10] <benonsoftware> Hiya s-fox
[09:10] <s-fox> Hello benonsoftware , how are you doing?
[09:11] <Starwood> Greetings
[09:11] <benonsoftware> Could bebetter, yourself?
[14:33] <duanedesign> 3
[15:46] <runmike> I have a printer and scanner Brother DCP-J725DW, but I can't put it for work. Can anyone help me?
[15:47] <holstein> runmike: what doesnt work?.. printer, scanner? have you plugged it in?
[15:48] <houman> Hi, If I install sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, does it install also the Xubuntu apps?
[15:48] <runmike> yes
[15:48] <runmike> all of them
[15:49] <holstein> runmike: when you go to the "add a printer" wizard, what is the result?
[15:49] <holstein> runmike: have you ever added a printer in ubuntu?
[15:49] <runmike> this printer is wireless, but i have it connected by USB
[15:49] <holstein> runmike: has this printer ever worked with linux?
[15:49] <houman> How do I install only the core desktop environment XFCE?
[15:49] <houman> without the xubuntu apps?
[15:50] <holstein> houman: well, there are no "xubuntu apps" really, but you get the core of xubuntu installed with that command
[15:50] <holstein> houman: you can just insatll xfce
[15:50] <holstein> install*
[15:51] <houman> holstein, its because I was told if I do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop I would install also the Lubuntu apps. But if I did sudo apt-get install lxde-core I could only install LXDE
[15:52] <houman> holstein: hence I was looking for a similar command to install only the core xfce without the overhead that comes with xbuntu.
[15:52] <holstein> houman: you just install XFCE
[15:53] <houman> holstein: Thanks. so all I do is sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[15:55] <holstein> houman: no
[15:55] <runmike> Yes I try with the wizard, and the printer appears on the list
[15:55] <runmike> Yes I already have added a printer to ubuntu
[15:55] <holstein> houman: that installs all the xubutu stuff that you are implying you dont want
[15:55] <runmike> no this printer never worked with linux
[15:56] <holstein> houman: you open whatever package manager you want to use and search XFCE, and install only XFCE
[15:56] <holstein> houman: XFCE doesnt = xubuntu... xubuntu uses XFCE, and thats about as far as the similarities go
[15:57] <holstein> runmike: and it doesnt print?
[15:57] <runmike> no
[15:57] <holstein> runmike: AFAIK, wireless scanning can be tricky... sometimes theres a webgui for that
[15:57] <houman> holstein: ahh i understand. Thanks for clarifying.  Under ubuntu software center I don't see any xfce :(
[15:57] <runmike> I can't put it to work
[15:57] <holstein> houman: close the software center, and try another package manager, or the teriminal
[15:57] <holstein> !pure xfce
[15:58] <ubot2> Factoid 'pure xfce' not found
[15:58] <holstein> !xfce
[15:58] <ubot2> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[15:59] <houman> holstein: I feel comfortable with the terminal. But I don't know how to install xfce only :D  I think I am back to square one after reading ubot2
[15:59] <holstein> houman: there not really any reasong not to install the metapacakge xubuntu-desktop
[15:59] <holstein> houman: you literally just install xfce
[15:59] <houman> holstein: yes exactly. Only xfce desktop environment. Because I hate Unity :D
[16:00] <holstein> houman: replace xubuntu-desktop with xfce... if you are comfortable in the terminal, then use the tab complete to make sure you are referencing an available package
[16:01] <holstein> runmike: sometimes, i just fiddle around with changing drivers.. i also just use the IP address with one tricky printer
[16:01] <houman> holstein:  ahhhh i was missing a 4. The correct command is sudo apt-get install xfce4  Thank you so much
[16:01] <holstein> runmike: its fiddly, but it will work.. if you want it to just work out of the box, be sure you let brother know
[16:01] <houman> holstein: didnt know the tab trick ;)
[16:05] <holstein> houman: :)
[16:12] <runmike> I have two big problems. I don't understand ubuntu and English to
[16:12] <holstein> runmike: what language?
[16:12] <holstein> there are lots of support channels, mabye we can direct you to a more appropraie and localized channel?
[16:13] <runmike> português
[16:14] <holstein> runmike: there should be #ubuntu-pt
[16:14] <holstein>  /join #ubuntu-pt
[16:17] <runmike> the channels in português don't have any one that have the interest to teatch
[16:17] <holstein> runmike: you might need to join and wait... or just tough it out here with us
[16:18] <holstein> runmike: im sure its just an issue where you are not quite used to using printing in ubuntu yet
[16:18] <holstein> runmike: there are options in that GUI for using the printer with "jet direct"
[16:18] <holstein> runmike: that works for me on a tricky bother network printer...
[16:19] <runmike> tanths any way
[16:42] <nejnio> I am interested in a tutorial or guide using apparmor. Any suggestions and guidance  will be appreciated.
[16:47] <Starwood> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor any help?
[16:55] <nejnio> yes I have been going over it.