[00:35] <Logan_> Does anyone here know why apport isn't sending crash reports to Launchpad anymore?
[00:36] <Logan_> It seems to be just submitting them to the whoopsie database.
[00:55] <lifeless> thats correct
[00:56] <lifeless> whoopsie-daisy is much better at gathering and coordinating the crashes; actual bugs are filed for the crashes identified by daisy
[01:14] <Logan_> lifeless: And who is the reporter?/
[01:14] <Logan_> /who has access to the crash database?
[01:42] <Logan_> lifeless?
[01:54] <patrickceg> I suggest setting Bug #990677 to Wishlist. Note someone else already provided a non-canned answer since it was a (complex) feature request.
[01:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 990677 in ubuntu "improving deb install process efficiency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990677
[02:23] <patrickceg> Is there a response for someone filing bugs against obsoleted versions? Bug #992370 is filed against Ubuntu 8.04...
[02:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 992370 in ubuntu "can't watch videos and computer very slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992370
[03:18] <Resistance> patrickceg:  bugs against 8.04 are still valid for a little while longer
[03:19] <Resistance> although this i dont think is a bug
[03:19] <Resistance> patrickceg:  that one about videos and computer being slow isnt exactly a bug, i'd mark that Invalid or Incomplete, but that's just me personally
 Where is the list of dates when bugs are out of date? I know 8.04 was EOL'd https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-April/000144.html
[03:30] <Resistance> patrickceg:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[03:30] <Resistance> you might want to note that server still is supported
[03:30] <Resistance> i'd post to the mailing list about that one, then
[03:30] <Resistance> because that'd be desktop
[03:30] <Resistance> but even then
[03:31] <Resistance> its not a bug at all
[03:31] <Resistance> so it'd be "Invalid" anyways
[03:31] <Resistance> what they need is ubuntuforums.org or askubuntu.com
[03:31] <Resistance> or #ubuntu
[03:31] <Resistance> not a bug
[03:33] <Resistance> patrickceg:  ^
[03:33] <Resistance> this'd be "Invalid"'d if I had seen it first, just because its not a bug
[03:34] <patrickceg> Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I'm signing off for tonight...
[03:50] <lifeless> Logan_: a developer will be
[03:51] <Logan_> Oh.
[03:51] <Logan_> I guess that's convenient for triagers. :P
[10:40] <njin> hello, if I try to remove libtotem-plparser17, synaptic ask to remove brasero too. Is this an apt bug ? Is this a brasero bug ? or is it a libtotem-plparser17 bug?
[11:50] <hggdh> njin: brasero depends on libtotem-plparser17. So yes, you try to remove it, brasero will also get removed.
[11:51] <seb128> njin, it's not a bug
[11:52] <njin> ok thanks guys, seen just now.
[11:53] <seb128> why do you want to remove that lib anyway?
[11:53] <seb128> it's a playlist parser list
[11:53] <njin> I was trying to see if banshee can be a valid substitute for totem and rhythmbox, but seems to have limitations
[14:51] <alo21> hi all
[17:47] <alo21> hi all
[17:47] <alo21> where ~/.pbuilderrc is located?
[17:59] <bcurtiswx> alo21, in terminal type 'ls ~/.p*' without the '
[17:59] <bcurtiswx> does .pbuilderrc show?
[18:01] <alo21> bcurtiswx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/987564/.. is better if I read http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmazione/Pbuilder
[18:01] <bcurtiswx> alo21, .pbuilderrc doesn't exist you would need to create it
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> alo21, what are you trying to do?
[18:17] <irc_willynux> Hi, I've just translated the strings reported on bug #999177 , should I update the status to In Progress or Fix Commited?
[18:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 999177 in language-pack-gnome-it "keyboard layout not completly translated in italian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999177
[18:22] <alo21> bcurtiswx: set up pbuilder to test my patches
[18:22] <bcurtiswx> irc_willynux, I think strings are translated in the applications themselves not from the language packs..
[18:23] <micahg> depends on the application
[18:24] <bcurtiswx> micahg, i think in this case if it was using the language pack only parts of sentences would be in english not entire sentences, right?
[18:24] <micahg> idk, depends on the application :)
[18:25] <irc_willynux> the application is keyboard layout from system settings, I did the translation in launchpad... Is that the way to do it?
[18:25] <bcurtiswx> alo21, you need to create .pbuilderrc then if you want to change settings in there
[18:26] <alo21> bcurtiswx: thanks
[18:26] <bcurtiswx> alo21, yw
[18:27] <bcurtiswx> irc_willynux, i should know the answer to that but I do not, sorry
[18:33] <irc_willynux> ok, no problem :) I'll ask in ubuntu-translators channel maybe better
[19:18] <alo21> could someone tell me where usually confiduration files are stored?
[19:26] <hggdh> alo21: system config usually under /etc, user config usually under ~/ -- ~/.config, ~/.local, etc, depending on the application
[19:27] <alo21> hggdh: amule
[19:27] <hggdh> alo21: sorry I do not use amule
[19:27] <alo21> hggdh: thakns anyway :)
[19:28] <hggdh> alo21: 'man amule' may help
[19:30] <hggdh> alo21: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/amule.1.html points to ~/.aMule
[19:31] <alo21> hggdh: thanks again
[19:47] <alo21> How can I write patch.... directly into the source=
[19:47] <alo21> ?
[19:51] <wylde> alo21: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[19:55] <alo21> could someone tell me how to make a patch?
[19:58] <hggdh> alo21: you write the patch, and then diff from an unchanged source. Or use bzr, or git
[19:58] <hggdh> easier to follow wylde's advice
[19:59] <alo21> hggdh: write it with gedit?
[19:59] <wylde> alo21: in whatever IDE or editor you like.
[19:59] <alo21> wylde: so I should open the source, change to fix the bug
[19:59] <alo21> try it
[19:59] <alo21> ?
[19:59] <alo21> right?
[20:00] <alo21> wylde: sorry
[20:00] <wylde> alo21: the easiest way I know is to use bzr to branch the code, edit and create a diff
[20:01] <alo21> wylde: wait... I would to test it before commit
[20:01] <alo21> wylde: Once I found where the bug is...
[20:01] <wylde> alo21: yes, all the required steps are outlined on the link I posted
[20:02] <alo21> wylde: sorry I did not receive it, because my connection goes down
[20:02] <wylde> alo21: I personally have only ever patched Documentaion bugs. But the process is similar.
[20:02] <wylde> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[20:03] <alo21> wylde: I have read it yet... but i did not understand it a lot
[20:03] <wylde> although... I can get away with a simple diff for the doc bugs. Not sure if that's sufficient for coding bugs.
[20:03] <alo21> wylde: patch -p1 < ../bugfix.patch ... how can I create a patch without uploading it on LP?
[20:05] <hggdh> LP has nothing to do with writing a patch
[20:05] <wylde> alo21: that's all I have to offer, like I said. I've only patched documentation bugs. It's likely a lot simpler that whgat you're asking. I've not yet attempted to patch those types of bugs.
[20:05] <alo21> wylde: ok
[20:05] <hggdh> 1. bzr branch
[20:05] <alo21> wylde: thanks
[20:06] <hggdh> 2. apply all patches in ./debian/patches (if the package is using quilt, very easy)
[20:06] <hggdh> 3. write your patch
[20:06] <hggdh> 4. save the diff somewhere else (again, quilt would help)
[20:07] <alo21> hggdh: ok... thank you so much
[20:13] <alo21> ok... I create the patch, merge it with the code, but now I would like to test it
[20:16] <hggdh> you do not _merge_ it with the code, the patch is applied during package build time
[20:16] <hggdh> alo21: which package is it?
[20:16] <alo21> hggdh: amule
[20:16] <hggdh> for which version?
[20:18] <alo21> precise
[20:19] <alo21> hggdh: precise
[20:37] <hggdh> interesting. amule in quantal is 2.3.1-7, and on lp:ubuntu/amule is 2.2.5-1.1ubuntu1
[20:38] <hggdh> alo21: so the first thing to do is verify if this (whatever you are trying to fix) is fixed on quantal
[20:39] <alo21> hggdh: It seems that the bug is not fixed on quantal
[20:40] <hggdh> alo21:  since the quantal source in LP is out-of-date, it is better for you to check on #ubuntu-motu how to proceed. BUT
[20:40] <hggdh> if it is not fixed on quantal, the first patch has to be there
[20:40] <hggdh> THEN you can request a SRU for precise
[20:40] <hggdh> (and sorry for the delay, had a phone call)
[20:41] <alo21> hggdh: do not worry
[20:41] <alo21> :)
[20:42] <hggdh> heh. I am not worried, I am just trying to make your life easier...
[21:24] <alo21> hggdh: i run this command: pbuilder-dist <release> build ../<package>_<version>.dsc
[21:24] <alo21> I do not receve any errors... but I cannot find my package
[21:26] <hggdh> alo21: did you look at ~/pbuilder?
[21:27] <alo21_> hggdh: here I am
[21:28] <alo21_> What did you say a moment ago?
[21:29] <alo21_> hggdh: inside my ~/pbuilder folder, I have two files
[21:29] <alo21_> 1) precise_result 2) precise-base.tgz
[21:33] <alo21_> I have to go... If you can, could you eamil me, please?
[21:33] <alo21_> you find my adress at LP as alo21
[21:33] <hggdh> that's... different
[21:48] <wylde> o.O
[22:12] <EvilResistance> hggdh:  and now you know why i work with the source packages and not the bzr branches ;P
[22:12] <EvilResistance> (the bzr branches arent always up-to-date with the source package, in some cases)
[23:42] <hggdh> EvilResistance: yes, this can happen... not good, though, it would be better if consistency were to be maintained