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popeymorning all06:38
dholbachgood morning06:51
* AlanBell observes some unneccessary sword falling in the scrollback06:51
dholbachAlanBell, care to elaborate? :)06:53
nigelbAlanBell: hrm, yes.06:54
nigelbHey dholbach06:54
nigelbRecovered from UDS yet? :)06:55
dholbachhaha very funny06:55
nigelblol06:55
dholbachI arrived last night06:55
nigelbI actually did laugh IRL06:55
dholbachwent to bed and woke up at 1:5006:55
nigelburgh06:55
dholbachmanaged to sleep from 6 to 8 again06:55
nigelbhow are you even functioning :(06:55
* dholbach will have another espresso06:56
AlanBelldholbach: jo-erland may well have sent a few unwise emails, but I don't think he needs to exile himself from the community, much better to learn from it06:57
dholbachAlanBell, did he send those mails very recently?06:58
AlanBellit relates to the unity-design mailing list06:59
dholbachah ok, I'm not on there06:59
nigelbBah. This is a bad problem to have.07:00
nigelbI'm clicking through too fast.07:00
nigelbMy bank's website logs me out because I'm too fast.07:00
nigelbHow does that even happen :(07:00
dholbachnigelb, they must have had only older clients in their user testing ;-)07:01
nigelbdholbach: haha07:01
nigelbMy evil plan to pay all the bills in 30 minutes, didn't work.07:02
nigelbI'll have to get back to this later.07:02
dholbachciao Gwaihir - come stai?07:02
Gwaihirhello dholbach! :-)07:02
Gwaihirdoing good, jet-lagged, but at the office :-)07:02
Gwaihirhow are you dholbach?07:03
dholbachsame :)07:03
popeyMorning all07:04
dholbachhey popey07:04
nigelbMorning popey, how was the trip back?07:04
popeyI am alive and awake07:05
popeyThis we know.07:05
nigelbHeh. Is this aftereffect from peruvian alcohol?07:05
Gwaihirdholbach, nay weird experience on your flight back? I had a crazy guy two rows in front of me who tried to open the exit door while cruising at 12000 meters...07:05
popeyhah07:05
popeyzoiks!07:05
nigelbGwaihir: What the heck!07:05
dholbachGwaihir, wow07:06
dholbachoh yeah, the peruvian alcohol I shouldn't have had07:06
nigelbhaha07:06
Gwaihiryeah... they forced it in the bathroom for 4 hours, and were going to hand-cuff him...07:06
Gwaihirquite a good flight back :-)07:07
nigelbheh07:07
popeydid he say why he wanted out?07:08
Gwaihirapparently not... but couldn't hear quite well07:08
Gwaihirlooks like hw was actually crazy for real, or had some kind of disease07:09
dholbachwanting to join the 10 mile high club I can understanding, but opening the exit door is not the kind of thrill I'd personally be after07:09
Gwaihiryeah... not on a 747 full of people...07:09
Gwaihirbut he had a welcoming party in Paris waiting for him07:10
jonomorning dholbach, popey07:39
dholbachhey jono07:39
popeyyo07:40
jonodholbach, could we detect if someone has used the sponsorship queue using LP lib?07:42
dholbachI really should take a picture - in the days I was gone from home a spider managed to cast a giant spider web on one of the legs of my DJ stand - it says how I feel about having made music recently :)07:42
jonoand conversely, if someone has reviewed an item on the sponsorship queue?07:42
dholbachjono, no, not reliably07:42
jonodholbach, hmmm07:42
dholbach"adding a bug comment" could be "having used the sponsoring queue"07:42
jonoright07:43
dholbachit's hard to tell it apart07:43
jonono worries07:43
* bkerensa waves07:44
* bkerensa apparently has Ubuflu now07:44
popeyperuvian ubuflu? ☺07:45
bkerensapopey: nah genuine... coughing and sneezing =/08:02
jonobed for me, night all!08:06
dholbachsleep tight jono08:06
jonothanks, man08:06
jononight!08:06
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huatsmorning !08:28
dholbachsalut huats08:28
huatshello dholbach08:29
huatsHow are you ?08:29
dholbachun peu fatigué :)08:29
dholbachet toi?08:29
huatsfeeling better than saturday morning ? :P08:29
huatsI am OK :)08:29
huatsthanks !08:29
dholbachyeah, just tired, not hungover :)08:29
huatshéhé08:29
nigelbnot hungover... anymore :P08:32
s-foxHello community09:10
popeyyo09:11
s-foxHey popey , how are you?09:13
popeytired ☺09:13
popeyjust booted debian on a raspberry pi which is fun09:14
s-foxCool. Have you found a case supplier yet popey ?09:15
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=== daker__ is now known as daker
popeys-fox: not looked09:17
popeymight make a lego one09:18
s-foxI like the look of this case - http://www.modmypi.com/products.php09:18
popeyis it actually shipping?09:19
s-foxThey aren't starting production until the 25th09:20
popeyanyone go to the demo evening at UDS? did they spark up that calxeda server and run ubuntu on it?10:36
* popey tickles Daviey 10:36
nigelbpopey: calxeda is out with a live server?10:49
nigelbo_O10:49
popeythey unveiled it at UDS10:49
nigelbwell played.10:49
* AlanBell wonders if the video of the epic davieydemo is online yet10:50
popeywhat day was that on?10:50
czajkowskifirst day10:50
czajkowskinm10:51
czajkowskithat was the calxeda10:51
popeyno, I'm asking about davieydemo10:51
popeyyes, found it10:52
AlanBellthursday10:52
AlanBellonly stopped laughing by friday10:52
AlanBellhttp://blip.tv/ubuntu-developers/ubuntu-uds-q-thursday-plenary-pm-614058510:52
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3utPU99Wgg10:52
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3utPU99Wgg&t=34m44s10:53
popeylinks to the bit with daviey in10:53
AlanBellaww, the good bit was cut!!10:56
popeythe cable trip?10:56
nigelbwhat was davieydemo?10:58
AlanBellyes10:58
AlanBellI want the blooper reel10:58
nigelbdid daviey slip and fall face down on the stage?10:58
AlanBellno10:58
nigelbdammit.10:58
AlanBellbut he nearly launched a thinkpad across the stage10:58
nigelbwow10:59
nigelbtime of daviey's talk?10:59
popey11:53:01 < popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3utPU99Wgg&t=34m44s11:03
popey11:53:06 < popey> links to the bit with daviey in11:03
nigelbpopey: <311:04
nigelbAlso, Daviey is cloud track lead?!?!11:04
cjohnstonnigelb: if you still liked us you would know that :-P11:49
nigelbcjohnston: I've been so busy lately, I couldn't even listen into UDS.11:53
nigelbIt didn't help that UDS was really really late for me this time.11:53
* Daviey looks in11:53
cjohnstonI'm just harassing you ;-)11:53
cjohnstonhey Daviey11:53
nigelbDaviey: We were just talking about your plenary11:53
nigelbDaviey: Also, congrats on being track lead!11:53
nigelbOf course, I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a curse :P11:54
Davieyyeah, 'thanks'. :)11:54
nigelbheh11:54
cjohnstonDaviey got special access to summit.. just what he always wanted11:55
nigelbhaahaha11:55
Davieycjohnston: i had that before :(11:56
cjohnstonlol11:56
cjohnstonyou still have all your access?11:56
cjohnstonlike admin area and such?11:56
Davieyah, that was removed.. should fix that.11:58
cjohnstonI'll tell mhall119 you said that you would take the responsibility of summit back :-)11:58
Davieyuh11:59
cjohnstonhehehe12:01
mhall119no superuser for you!12:04
nigelblol12:04
mhall119or you12:05
cjohnstonmhall119 must have not read my statement12:05
nigelbHey, I never had superuser.12:05
nigelbI was clever enough *not* to grab it.12:05
dpmok, installed new router, no problems so far13:01
dholbachdpm, which one did you get?13:05
dpmdholbach, I was actually considering buying one, but then I changed my adsl plan to a cheaper one and I got a new one from the phone company. It's still a crappy one, but better than the one that I got. It's an Amper BSH ASL-2655513:09
dpmthe only complaint so far is that I cannot figure out how to use WPS with it, although it supports it13:09
dholbachah ok, I'm looking into buying a new one13:09
dpmyeah, I'm still thinking of getting a new one, but for now, this one is already an improvement :)13:10
dholbach:)13:10
dakergood morning JanC http://www.lematin.ma/express/Anniversaire_Il-y-a-72-ans-des-Marocains-a-Gembloux/166512.html13:39
daker;)13:39
dholbachmhall119, I'm porting some of my stats to a django project and run into a problem when importing data (it's arguably quite a bit of it - I expect several 100Ks), but the data structure isn't too complicated, are there any silver bullets for speeding up data import?14:47
dholbachhey jono14:56
jonohey dholbach14:57
forestpiskiehi dholbach jono14:58
jonohey forestpiskie14:58
forestpiskiehow's things now UDS is all over for a few months - got some work to do now :)14:58
jonoforestpiskie, lots to do!15:00
jonodholbach, all set?15:00
dholbachyep15:00
jonodpm, all set?15:30
dpmjono, yep!15:31
dpmlet me restart IRC, though15:31
jonohey dpm15:32
jonoone sec15:32
dpmok15:32
jussi01sigh :/15:49
jussi01is ubuntu unable to now be installed with encryption? :/15:50
dholbachenough blueprint spam for today, I'll go and call it a day :)15:50
dholbachsee you all tomorrow15:50
mhall119dholbach: what was the problem you had with importing?15:51
popeyjussi01: i use ecryptfs on all my machines15:51
dholbachmhall119, let's talk tomorrow15:51
mhall119ok15:51
dholbachmhall119, basically it's just "import of data takes 3-4 hours"15:51
jussi01popey: Im talking about the little checkbox in ubiquity15:51
dholbachwhich sucks slightly15:52
popeyyes, thats ecryptfs15:52
dholbachalright, let's chat tomorrow then - thanks for your help :)15:53
jussi01popey: I couldnt install today :/15:53
* dholbach → turntables15:53
popeyjussi01: what happened?15:54
jussi01popey: ubi-usersetup failed. I havent got the full message here, but Im about to retry and see if it happens again15:55
popeywas it a clean machine?15:55
popeyor does it have stuff on other partitions?15:56
jussi01popey: completely clean HDD. no other partions, full hdd used, not even windows15:56
popeyinteresting. wonder if it was the setting up of encrypted swap that failed, seen that before15:57
jussi01popey: possibly. let me try again and give you a full error message15:58
jussi01AMD64, normal ubuntu precise15:58
popeyalso, you can file a bug if you have net connectivity, "ubuntu bug ubiquity"15:58
popeythen it'll capture the /var/log/installer logs15:58
popeyshould do anyway ;)15:58
popeycoffee time!15:58
jussi01oh, yeah, good point.15:58
jussi01popey: thanks15:58
jussi01popey: strange, it now works.16:03
popeyyay I guess16:04
jussi01perhaps it was the fact it was a totally empty disk, dunno16:04
cjohnstonmhall119: do you have anything to add to the UDS review in relation to Summit/displays/similar?16:05
mhall119the what?16:06
cjohnstonI emailed you about it16:06
cjohnstonThings that went bad, good and things to do next time16:08
mhall119ok16:09
cjohnstonthanks mhall11916:13
mhall119np16:13
technovikings-fox: so I think Ubuntu is ready to be the default on forums, have not heard FC so I assume no one has a problem with it16:13
mhall119I was going to put "Good: All blame could be placed on Chris, not me", but I figure you'd just remove that16:14
s-foxtechnoviking,  It reads easier on xp since the tweak. could be a little bigger imo16:14
s-fox+1 on making it default technoviking16:14
mhall119s-fox: do you know what the status is on getting that app developer forum?16:15
popeylike the new theme16:16
technovikingpopey: enough to post to the forums :)16:19
forestpiskie:)16:20
forestpiskiehi technoviking - thanks by the way - good job :)16:20
cjohnstontechnoviking: rocking job on the theme16:20
technovikingstill needs some minor tweak, but this is good enough for public consumption16:21
forestpiskietechnoviking: yep16:21
* jcastro nods16:21
popeytechnoviking: nope ☺16:24
scott-workjcastro: when do you think you can send me that form for the vudu blueprint?16:24
jcastrowe need to ask what form they need16:25
jcastrolet me check16:25
technovikingput the new one with orange header bar in place as default16:25
jcastroscott-work: link me to your current wiki page16:25
jcastromhall119: are you around today?16:28
mhall119jcastro: I am16:30
jcastromhall119: you need to send a mail to oren (cc in scott), and let him know what happened at UDS, link to the blueprint, wiki, etc.16:30
jcastroand then ask him how to proceed to start working with design on the thing16:30
mhall119jcastro: do we not need to fill out this form you've been talking about?16:31
jcastroyes, he'll likely send you a form to fill out16:31
technovikings-fox: I am making clean2/3 not selectable to help user move to the new theme16:31
jcastrowhere you'll have to fill out use cases, user stories, etc.16:31
mhall119ok16:31
jcastro"Joe Bob is a welder and loves his computer..." and so on16:31
mhall119heh16:32
nigelbjcastro!16:32
nigelbI feel like I haven't seen you around in ages :)16:32
jcastrohey man!16:32
jcastroyeah it's been a while16:32
nigelboh right, we missed you at open week.16:32
nigelbthat's why I feel like I haven't seen you around a lot16:33
* jcastro makes nice clean trello columns16:33
jcastroARCHIVE how I love thee16:33
scott-workjcastro: you mean the ubuntu wiki page?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScottLavender16:36
jcastrono16:36
jcastrothe page with your information on your idea, etc.16:36
scott-workjcastro: blueprint?16:36
jcastrosure, that will work16:36
scott-workthat's all i got, besides my head and i'm not sending that to you :P16:37
balloonsscott-work, lol16:37
scott-workjcastro: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-juju-and-the-hud16:37
jcastrok, mhall119 ^^^ make sure oren has a link to the bp16:37
scott-workjcastro: yeah, mhall119 is like the secret weapon for this in my opinion :P16:38
scott-workhe's the one that actually knows how to do something productive like code things16:38
jcastromhall119: yea so like "Hi Oren, check out this bp, Mark says we should iterate with you on this, what do we do now?" <--- is the TL;DR what you want to ask16:38
scott-workjcastro: are you going to contact the other two people that mark mentioned?  or should we do that too?16:39
jcastroOren should know what to do16:39
mhall119jcastro: already sent16:39
popeyhttp://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2012/05/an-example-of-the-usefulness-of-bittorrent-for-entirely-legal-purposes.html16:46
popeynice to see Wil Wheaton trying out Ubuntu16:47
czajkowskihe;s a lot of fun on big bang theory16:49
AlanBellhe is a long time linux user16:49
popeyyay, my "purge all the ppas" script works well16:55
popeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/purgealltheppas16:55
popeysuggestions/patches welcome!16:55
jcastrohmm16:57
jcastrosomething is eating up all my diskspace on 2 of my machines16:57
snap-l*cough*16:58
czajkowskipopey: oh sweet thank you16:58
mhall119cjohnston: can we get a mailing list for UDS schedulers?16:59
mhall119I can have cron run the deadblueprints command and email the output to a single email16:59
jcastrotechnoviking: hey cool17:00
jcastrothe new skin is live for me already!17:00
mhall119popey: nice meme-based-script17:00
popeythanks ☺17:00
AlanBellhow does one set up dns servers in ubuntu server these days17:00
nigelbwhy isn't there an ubuntumemes.tumblr.com yet?17:00
* mhall119 awaits popey's y-u-no script17:00
nigelbmhall119: ^17:00
popeyAlanBell: in network manager17:00
AlanBellnot by poking at resolv.conf I think17:00
mhall119nigelb: because you haven't made it yet17:00
AlanBellooh, wrong channel17:01
* czajkowski got a y you no t-shirt for her bf, he's now wearing it looking rather too happy for my liking 17:01
mhall119lol17:01
popeyAlanBell: edit connection, choose auto dhcp (addresses only)17:01
nigelbhaha17:01
czajkowskihe's gone off to hackspae meeting17:01
mhall119czajkowski: Michelle wants to see the background you put on the projector17:01
czajkowskimhall119: it's in the G+ folder desktop themes17:01
czajkowskimhall119: https://plus.google.com/photos/102921374554385564572/albums/573081933446555622517:02
czajkowskiincluding this weeks one :)17:02
mhall119czajkowski: got it17:03
mhall119:)17:03
mhall119jono: are we having a call today?17:04
jonomhall119, yeah, just running a few mins late17:04
jonowont be long17:04
mhall119ok17:05
popeymhall119: i have a plan for y-u-no-work17:06
mhall119+117:08
jonomhall119, invite sent17:12
jcastrotechnoviking: the favicon still seems old17:16
jcastrothough there has to be some clever one you can use17:16
jcastrosince everyone uses the ubuntu one17:17
jcastroand it makes it hard to identify a tab when everyone uses the same ubuntu one17:17
technovikingasked IS to replace it17:17
technovikingdon't have access to the forums root only images dir17:18
jcastrok I got a call with mbarnett this afternoon, I'll chat about it17:19
technovikingcool17:20
technovikingI will work on an forum favico maybe to be somewhat different17:20
cjohnstonmhall119: the issue though is that we have uds schedulers and linaro schedulers, and they both need their own.. would it be possible to do two different crons?17:25
mhall119it would be necessary, one using ubuntu_settings and the other using linaro_settings17:25
cjohnstonok.. that works.. let me try something17:26
balloonsIAmNotThatGuy, i just have to tell you.. your irc nick is awesome17:45
cjohnstonmhall119: you are ready for the email addresses now correct?17:57
mhall119cjohnston: I don't have a cron or anything ready, no, I need to double-check that the dead blueprints command only prints out dead blueprints too18:03
cjohnstonwe ran it the other day and it didnt seem to do anything else18:05
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jonocprofitt, so I chatted to mhall119 earlier about the accomplishments18:39
jonomhall119 is happy to work on the scripts18:40
cprofittjono: cool... thought he would be18:40
jonocprofitt, so if you can get started on the docs, that would be cool18:40
jonowe can then land them18:40
cprofittI got two busy weeks ahead of me right now, but I can grind on it after that18:40
jonoI think these will be really nice accoms18:40
jonocool18:40
cprofittyea, they will be awesome accomplishments18:41
cprofittI want to try and learn the scripting as well... and then I can suggest work on some others as well18:41
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jonocprofitt, cool18:42
jonoyeah the scripting is pretty easy :-)18:42
cprofittgotta make a few juju charms too...18:42
scott-workczajkowski:  lol, those are hilarious backgrounds18:50
czajkowskiscott-work: :)18:51
cjohnstonczajkowski: does it beat the background from last week?18:52
czajkowskicjohnston: am not gonna live that down am I18:53
czajkowskiand yes it does18:53
czajkowski:)18:53
cjohnstonlol18:53
czajkowskiat least I made you all smile and wake up18:54
czajkowskiand I got people to help on the LTP18:54
czajkowskiso all can be forgiven18:54
cjohnstonvery true18:54
czajkowskihttps://plus.google.com/photos/102921374554385564572/albums/5730819334465556225/574233482507075934618:54
czajkowskithis weeks pic18:54
cjohnstonthat doesnt even come close to last weeks18:55
czajkowski:)19:01
balloonsczajkowski, never fail to impress19:10
czajkowskihey if it makes ye smile it;s a good way to start a monday!19:13
snap-lSmile is not the first thing I've done with some of czajkowski's wallpapers19:43
MrChrisDruifczajkowski; Pedigree commercial?19:45
s9iper1any body know why this page is not updated ?19:46
s9iper1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania19:46
s9iper1it show the past date19:47
AlanBells9iper1: there is a bit of a reorganisation in process of the boards19:47
pleia2s9iper1: we're currently reorganizing and restaffing the membership boards: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/25/membership-boards-restaffing-and-reorganization/19:47
s9iper1hmmm19:47
s9iper1than when it suppose that process will end ?19:48
pleia2as the post explains, the call for nominations ends on May 18th, from there we'll move forward with getting the new boards into plac19:49
pleia2e19:49
s9iper1ok thanks so much19:50
daker-cloudczajkowski: do you know who is responsible of the design for LP ?21:08
czajkowskidaker-cloud: what do you mean?21:10
popeysomeone _designed_ it!? :p21:10
* czajkowski sends popey to the naughty step 21:10
daker-cloudczajkowski: i mean if there is a team responsible of the design part of LP21:11
czajkowskidaker-cloud: well it was desinged  a long time ago, there is a design guy on our team also, but no new designs have been done under him21:12
daker-cloudok, they have more focus on the backend rather than ui/ux21:13
czajkowskidaker-cloud: well there is design and then there is layouts, like say bug viewing/sorting which isn's design but is ui stuff21:15
daker-cloudczajkowski: i am not happy with it ux :/21:17
czajkowskidaker-cloud: well we are hoping people want to get involved in LP dev and have blogged about this and how to develop, so if you do want to fix areas the launchpad-dev channel is the best place to get involved21:19
daker-cloudlast time i have tried to install LP, i run the script then i was told to install hundred of packages :/21:20
mhall119daker-cloud: nigelb and cjohnston both got a local development setup of LP working21:20
mhall119I'm sure you can too21:20
AlanBellthere is a cloudy plan for it too21:21
mhall119you mean a vague, nebulous plan?21:21
popeyi think gmb plans to juju-ify it21:21
AlanBellyes, exactly, it involves juju21:21
daker-cloudAlanBell: no money no cloudy plan for me21:21
czajkowskihe tried at uds but it kept failing to jujuify21:21
mhall119daker-cloud: LXC lets you juju deploy locally21:22
popeyyeah21:22
popeyi played with juju with lxc on my laptop21:22
popeyworked well21:22
daker-cloudok people we are in 2012 and LP is still using a button to logout http://i.imgur.com/gxhoO.png :)21:27
czajkowskidaker-cloud: so does lots of things21:29
daker-cloudczajkowski: i know LP does lots of things, LP is a webapp and the web is moving fast, very fast.21:31
czajkowskidaker-cloud: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/contributing-to-launchpad21:36
daker-cloudczajkowski: you forgot to say : patch welcome :)21:38
czajkowskiI said that earlier :)21:38
czajkowskiright sleep for me21:39
czajkowskitrying to reset my noggin21:39
czajkowskitoodles21:39
technovikingGot our first, change the forums theme back or I quit using Ubuntu message:)21:40
mhall119technoviking: lol21:42
balloonstechnoviking, good! your on the right track!21:50
balloons:-)21:50
technovikingheh21:51
daker-cloudmhall119: 182 packages to install :)21:56

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