[02:21] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: Hi. How was your trip?
[02:39] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, uneventful
[02:39] <TheMuso> Yep, same.
[02:40] <RAOF> Excellent.
[02:41] <thumper> my plane didn't explode either
[02:43] <robert_ancell> thumper, oh really?  Awesome
[02:43] <thumper> always look on the bright side :)
[02:46] <TheMuso> RAOF: Of you're back too, or are you still in Melbourne?
[02:46] <RAOF> TheMuso: Still in Melbourne.
[02:46] <TheMuso> ah ok.
[02:47] <RAOF> At least the lounge is quite nice :)
[02:49] <TheMuso> Yeah, thats a bonus I guess.
[02:52] <RAOF> And I've managed to shower and change clothes, which is extra-nice.
[06:35] <Optichip> bleh
[08:14] <Laney> morning
[08:26] <pitti> hey Laney, got back in one piece?
[08:26] <Laney> just about, but my laptop almost didn't
[08:26] <Laney> the person in front of me put her seat back and almost crushed it
[08:27] <Laney> ah well :-)
[08:27] <Laney> how was your trip?
[08:36] <didrocks> good morning
[08:38] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[08:38] <pitti> ca va?
[08:38] <TheMuso> Hey Europe folks. Hope you all had safe travels.
[08:38]  * TheMuso is about to crash hard after an uneventful trip flying in this morning.
[08:39] <pitti> mine was rather quiet; the A380 is surprisingly silent, and I was able to sleep a bit
[08:40] <TheMuso> Oh yeah, the a380 is nice to travel in. I had one from LA to Sydney.
[08:40] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi?
[08:40] <didrocks> hey TheMuso
[08:40] <pitti> didrocks: Je suis très fatigué
[08:41] <didrocks> we apparently had someone who tried to exit the flight during the night
[08:41] <pitti> well, not exactly tired, but my head feels strange
[08:41] <pitti> didrocks: !?
[08:41] <didrocks> I heard that 4 people were needed to make him harmless and they locked it in the restroom for 5 hours
[08:42] <didrocks> then, he was still agressive and they put some medecine to make him sleep
[08:42] <didrocks> apparently, he was near jibel, so we can have more info later on :)
[08:42] <didrocks> (I didn't notice anything from the back of the plane, just got some updates from rick and huats once we landed)
[08:43] <huats> that is whta I have heard too :)
[09:08] <BigWhale> didrocks, that guy was sitting beside me :>
[09:09] <didrocks> BigWhale: had a good night? :)
[09:09] <BigWhale> aprat from that, yes :>
[09:09] <BigWhale> apart
[09:09] <smspillaz> didrocks: O.o
[09:09] <BigWhale> oh night ... not flight :>
[09:10] <BigWhale> flight was quite awesome, some drama, to make it a bit less boring! :>
[09:11] <smspillaz> I got stopped and searched /again/ on accusation that I was a drug smuggling child pornographer identity stealer because I dropped my immigration ticket but that surely doesn't stand up to didrocks story
[09:12] <didrocks> smspillaz: you still have immigration tickets?
[09:12] <didrocks> I didn't get one for at least a year now
[09:13] <smspillaz> oh as in
[09:14] <smspillaz> in australia, they have a computerized immigration system - if you have an RFID enabled passport you can do immigration by looking at a camera which does face detection :)
[09:14] <smspillaz> except that they give you a ticket at the end which you give to the CBP officer who usually just lets you through except that I lost my ticket
[09:14] <smspillaz> in the 30 or so steps it takes to get from A to B
[09:15] <smspillaz> still, that doesn't stand up to a bucket of crazy on the plane :)
[09:15] <didrocks> :)
[09:16] <smspillaz> I still like how the immigration officers try and invent more and more far fetched stories to try and make you "admit" something
[09:16] <smspillaz> "So Ubuntu? Is that some kind of computer hacking ring?"
[09:17] <smspillaz> "Ever been in contact with narcotics? Sure? Its a crime if you've been in the same room etc etc"
[09:21] <didrocks> seems australia is weird :)
[09:21] <didrocks> in France, the officer just take your passeport, give it back to you, no question, no hello, nothing…
[09:22] <BigWhale> didrocks, yeah I actually liked that it was super quick
[09:23] <BigWhale> then later in Slovenia, customs officer was going through my underwear ...
[09:23] <BigWhale> :>
[09:23] <didrocks> urgh
[09:41] <seb128> hey
[09:44] <BigWhale> seb128, hello
[09:44] <seb128> hey BigWhale
[09:44] <MrChrisDruif> Hai
[09:46] <davidcalle> Hey all :)
[09:47] <MrChrisDruif> Hai davidcalle
[09:47] <MrChrisDruif> =)
[10:14] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[10:14] <seb128> pitti, hey, wie gehts?
[10:14] <pitti> seb128: okay-ish, still a bit numb in my head due to the jetlag
[10:14] <pitti> but I'm mostly doing some laundry and cleaning today anyway
[10:15] <seb128> same here
[10:15] <seb128> email catching up as well, nothing that requires to focus ;-)
[10:15] <pitti> I still got my 11:20 train yesterday, airport went pretty smoothly
[10:16] <seb128> great
[10:45] <gema> I feel like I have been on a train all the way from SFO
[10:45] <gema> I hope indicators are as easy as they looked in the plenary, cos I was planning to learn about them today :D
[10:45] <gema> hello-unity, here I come
[11:01] <pops> Hi !
[11:01] <pops> Need help with compiz...
[11:02] <bcurtiswx> Morning . After UDS you all got devotion bonuses from canonical for being here today?
[11:04] <bcurtiswx> If not you should :-P
[11:16] <mlankhorst> bcurtiswx: nah we just recover, it's stupidity to work today
[11:16] <mlankhorst> it may make you more productive in the short run, but less productive overall
[11:17] <mlankhorst> Same with working >40 hours consistently :)
[11:18] <bcurtiswx> mlankhorst: Lol, took me a few days myself from UDS-O and I had to start 40/wk right after. It's the most fun you can have :)
[11:20] <mlankhorst> bcurtiswx: Im not going to do any work related things today, I need to calm down rest and readjust first. :)
[11:21] <bcurtiswx> mlankhorst: Darn, and I had three pages of sync requests I wanted to discuss.
[11:22] <mlankhorst> bcurtiswx: That's the beauty about rest, I can just say "it can wait". :)
[11:23] <mlankhorst> Very zen!
[16:29] <jbicha> yay! I'm a GNOME Foundation member now
[16:30] <seb128> jbicha, hey, congrats!
[16:30] <seb128> jbicha, had a good flight back?
[16:31] <jbicha> seb128: yeah, I didn't sleep as well on the plane though, my mind had too much exciting stuff to think about
[16:31] <seb128> hehe
[16:33] <jbicha> Lars & I walked from the Embarcadero all the way around to Ghiradelli Square
[16:33] <didrocks> ok, time to walk a little bit outside and then dinner for early evening :)
[16:33] <didrocks> see you tomorrow everyone!
[16:33] <jbicha> I think I walked 10 miles on Saturday
[16:38] <vuntz> seb128: hey
[16:38] <seb128> vuntz, hey, how are you?
[16:38] <vuntz> seb128: remember you pinged me months ago about versions-stable-extras not having the right versions for some modules?
[16:39] <seb128> vuntz, yes
[16:39] <vuntz> seb128: I've fixed the scripts to make it possible to avoid that, so now, when you see a module with this issue, just tell me which one :-)
[16:39] <seb128> great!
[16:39] <seb128> vuntz, thanks
[16:40] <vuntz> of course, this will have to be fixed again for all modules each time there's a new stable version, but that's not too much work
[16:40] <vuntz> how was UDS?
[16:41] <seb128> quite good
[16:41] <seb128> jbicha signed up to do a "Ubuntu GNOME" respin
[16:41]  * kenvandine is feeling a bit fried, gotta get my brain jump started :)
[16:41] <seb128> i.e gnome-shell, upstream branding, epiphany, abiword, gnumeric, etc
[16:42] <vuntz> yeah, I've seen that, that's great :-)
[16:43] <seb128> got to go, bbl
[16:56]  * bcurtiswx is excited to be getting back into Desktop team stuff this cycle :)
[16:57] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, you can ignore my e-mail from last week
[16:58] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, oh... sorry i had forgotten already :)
[16:59] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, i don't know why I got the error in there but my intentions with that branch were wrong
[17:00] <bcurtiswx> Folks 0.6.9 fixes a high heat LP bug, and I'm working on Empathy 3.4.2 which has bug fixes and takes care of an LP bug too
[17:00] <bcurtiswx> I don't quite remember how Debian Syncs work for SRU's
[17:01] <kenvandine> i've never done one for an SRU
[17:04] <bcurtiswx> bug #917302 has a fix in folks 0.6.9 which is a bug fix release but as of right now we had that as a sync since we don't need to be diff from upstream
[17:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 917302 in empathy "empathy-chat crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917302
[17:05] <bcurtiswx> right now folks is 0.6.8
[17:05] <micahg> bcurtiswx: SRUs are generally cherry picked, you can sync to the devel release though
[17:06] <bcurtiswx> micahg, so best practice would be cherry pick the one fix i need (out of two) and let the sync happen in Q??
[17:06] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, do the sync to Q first
[17:08] <micahg> bcurtiswx: if there are only 2 fixes and the risk is not that great, you might be able to SRU the new version
[17:08] <micahg> but as kenvandine said, dev release comes first
[17:09] <kenvandine> folks and empathy would get an update anyway, part of the gnome stack
[17:09] <kenvandine> get it in Q then we'll look at them for SRU
[17:13] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, micahg sounds good, thx
[17:13] <kenvandine> np: :)
[18:30] <dobey> AWESOME :(
[18:31]  * dobey wonders which update exactly, broke the keyboard world
[18:35]  * kenvandine is about to shutdown to do a clean install of quantal :)
[18:41] <bryceh> dobey, keyboard breakage in what way?
[18:41] <dobey> GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `string' got `list' for key /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/switch_windows
[18:41] <dobey> every keybinding in metacity, breaking
[18:42] <dobey> running "gnome-control-center keyboard" prints *lots* of those in the terminal
[18:43] <bryceh> dobey, ok
[18:43] <dobey> but for some reason, also seems to be broken upstream
[18:43] <james_w> hi, looks like Bryce and Robert both worked on rhythmbox at the same time: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/rhythmbox/quantal-201205140516/+merge/105608
[18:43] <dobey> which is weird, as it was working fine, until some update during the past week
[18:49] <dobey> at least "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/metacity/global_keybindings /apps/metacity/window_keybindings" fixes it
[18:49] <dobey> at laest, until something decides to trample them all again
[19:16] <bcurtiswx> for a sync, if the debian package contains a fix for an LP reported bug, do I edit the debian changelog or how does that all work?
[19:16] <bcurtiswx> im using requestsync package right now
[19:17] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx: should just work, afaik
[19:17] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, do I add a part to the changelog to indicate which LP bug is fixed?
[19:17] <cyphermox> it's not indicated?
[19:17] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, i wasn't sure since it's bringing over the debian changelog in the sync
[19:18] <cyphermox> a sync shouldn't be making changes
[19:18] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, OK, so just fix-release the LP bugs that are fixed by the debian sync?
[19:18] <bcurtiswx> manually
[19:19] <cyphermox> or can be done with the syncpackage command once the sync is reviewed
[19:19] <cyphermox> just mention which bugs in the sync bug
[19:19] <dobey> bcurtiswx: if the debian bug is referenced (and thus closed upstream), and the LP bug is watching the upstream, i would think it would be fairly automagic
[19:19] <dobey> if it's not, maybe some magic needs to be added for that
[19:20] <bcurtiswx> dobey, OK. I'll let the wizard in the build machines do the hard work then :)
[19:20] <dobey> i haven't really done anything with debian packages directly yet, though. so maybe i am just being hopeful :)
[19:21] <bcurtiswx> bug #999290 thx all
[19:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 999290 in folks "Sync folks 0.6.9-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999290
[19:28] <jbicha> I guess we'll hit bug 1 million this week
[19:28] <ubot2> jbicha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[19:28] <jbicha> yeah, that too
[19:36] <geser> bcurtiswx: does the Debian changelog has already the "LP: #xxx" magic token in it?
[19:37] <bcurtiswx> geser, no
[19:38] <geser> bcurtiswx: then the Ubuntu task has to be manually set to "Fix released" once the sync is done
[19:39] <bcurtiswx> geser, OK. not a problem. I just wanted to make sure i wasn't supposed to add it to the sync changelog myself
[19:39] <geser> jbicha: hopefully we don't find any code which assumes that bug numbers have 6 digits
[19:43] <geser> bcurtiswx: syncs get copied from Debian unmodified, I'm not sure right now if an existing "LP: #xxx" in the new Debian changelog entries would get pickuped with LP API syncs
[19:46] <geser> Laney: ^^ do you know this?
[19:48] <Laney> geser: it should do
[20:48] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, i did a clean install with quantal, i am going to see how long i can hold out without install evolution :)
[20:58] <jbicha> kenvandine: we need people to test Evolution too :)
[20:59] <kenvandine> jbicha, i've never lasted more than a couple days without evo :)
[20:59] <kenvandine> jbicha, but i do still have it on my desktop, which i am sure will get upgraded soon
[20:59] <jbicha> good, because we'll be getting Evolution 3.4 soon
[21:00] <kenvandine> looking forward to it
[21:00] <kenvandine> the first time setup for tbird with gmail is pretty bad...
[21:00] <kenvandine> UI is fine
[21:01] <kenvandine> but it's been nearly an hour and it is still pegging a CPU and using a ton of memory
[21:01] <kenvandine> 3G RSS and 89% CPU
[22:30] <TheMuso> Good $TIMEOFDAY folks. Hope everybody had safe travels home.
[22:40]  * bryceh waves
[22:45] <TheMuso> Hey bryceh. You were one of the fortunate ones who didn't have very far to go at all.
[22:55] <bryceh> TheMuso, for once...
[22:56] <bryceh> TheMuso, the no jet lag thing was nice too :-)
[22:59] <RAOF> Good yo!
[23:02] <TheMuso> Morning RAOF. I hope you slept well.
[23:03] <TheMuso> I know I did, crashed by 7:30 last night.
[23:03] <TheMuso> And woke up at about 6:40 this morning.
[23:03] <RAOF> I woke a bit early, but that was because I was going to morning exercise.
[23:04] <TheMuso> Ah ok.
[23:04] <RAOF> I managed to last until 9:30 ish last night.
[23:04] <TheMuso> Not too bad, traveling in business has its purks, like getting better sleep.
[23:04] <RAOF> No business for me on the way home :/
[23:04] <RAOF> Just the way over :)
[23:05] <TheMuso> Damn.
[23:05] <TheMuso> Oh well.
[23:07] <RAOF> Yeah.
[23:07] <RAOF> At least I now know where the power is in economy on the A380s :)
[23:07] <TheMuso> Yep, I know where it is too, but haven't had the need to use it yet.
[23:14] <RAOF> We have a gtk2-engines-oxygen SRU?  Really?!