=== bcurtiswx is now known as Guest14632 === Guest14632 is now known as bcurtiswx [02:21] robert_ancell: Hi. How was your trip? [02:39] TheMuso, uneventful [02:39] Yep, same. [02:40] Excellent. [02:41] my plane didn't explode either [02:43] thumper, oh really? Awesome [02:43] always look on the bright side :) [02:46] RAOF: Of you're back too, or are you still in Melbourne? [02:46] TheMuso: Still in Melbourne. [02:46] ah ok. [02:47] At least the lounge is quite nice :) [02:49] Yeah, thats a bonus I guess. [02:52] And I've managed to shower and change clothes, which is extra-nice. [06:35] bleh === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [08:14] morning [08:26] hey Laney, got back in one piece? [08:26] just about, but my laptop almost didn't [08:26] the person in front of me put her seat back and almost crushed it [08:27] ah well :-) [08:27] how was your trip? [08:36] good morning [08:38] bonjour didrocks [08:38] ca va? [08:38] Hey Europe folks. Hope you all had safe travels. [08:38] * TheMuso is about to crash hard after an uneventful trip flying in this morning. [08:39] mine was rather quiet; the A380 is surprisingly silent, and I was able to sleep a bit [08:40] Oh yeah, the a380 is nice to travel in. I had one from LA to Sydney. [08:40] pitti: ça va bien, et toi? [08:40] hey TheMuso [08:40] didrocks: Je suis très fatigué [08:41] we apparently had someone who tried to exit the flight during the night [08:41] well, not exactly tired, but my head feels strange [08:41] didrocks: !? [08:41] I heard that 4 people were needed to make him harmless and they locked it in the restroom for 5 hours [08:42] then, he was still agressive and they put some medecine to make him sleep [08:42] apparently, he was near jibel, so we can have more info later on :) [08:42] (I didn't notice anything from the back of the plane, just got some updates from rick and huats once we landed) [08:43] that is whta I have heard too :) [09:08] didrocks, that guy was sitting beside me :> [09:09] BigWhale: had a good night? :) [09:09] aprat from that, yes :> [09:09] apart [09:09] didrocks: O.o [09:09] oh night ... not flight :> [09:10] flight was quite awesome, some drama, to make it a bit less boring! :> [09:11] I got stopped and searched /again/ on accusation that I was a drug smuggling child pornographer identity stealer because I dropped my immigration ticket but that surely doesn't stand up to didrocks story [09:12] smspillaz: you still have immigration tickets? [09:12] I didn't get one for at least a year now [09:13] oh as in [09:14] in australia, they have a computerized immigration system - if you have an RFID enabled passport you can do immigration by looking at a camera which does face detection :) [09:14] except that they give you a ticket at the end which you give to the CBP officer who usually just lets you through except that I lost my ticket [09:14] in the 30 or so steps it takes to get from A to B [09:15] still, that doesn't stand up to a bucket of crazy on the plane :) [09:15] :) [09:16] I still like how the immigration officers try and invent more and more far fetched stories to try and make you "admit" something [09:16] "So Ubuntu? Is that some kind of computer hacking ring?" [09:17] "Ever been in contact with narcotics? Sure? Its a crime if you've been in the same room etc etc" [09:21] seems australia is weird :) [09:21] in France, the officer just take your passeport, give it back to you, no question, no hello, nothing… [09:22] didrocks, yeah I actually liked that it was super quick [09:23] then later in Slovenia, customs officer was going through my underwear ... [09:23] :> [09:23] urgh [09:41] hey [09:44] seb128, hello [09:44] hey BigWhale [09:44] Hai [09:46] Hey all :) [09:47] Hai davidcalle [09:47] =) [10:14] bonjour seb128 [10:14] pitti, hey, wie gehts? [10:14] seb128: okay-ish, still a bit numb in my head due to the jetlag [10:14] but I'm mostly doing some laundry and cleaning today anyway [10:15] same here [10:15] email catching up as well, nothing that requires to focus ;-) [10:15] I still got my 11:20 train yesterday, airport went pretty smoothly [10:16] great === zyga_ is now known as zyga [10:45] I feel like I have been on a train all the way from SFO [10:45] I hope indicators are as easy as they looked in the plenary, cos I was planning to learn about them today :D [10:45] hello-unity, here I come [11:01] Hi ! [11:01] Need help with compiz... [11:02] Morning . After UDS you all got devotion bonuses from canonical for being here today? [11:04] If not you should :-P [11:16] bcurtiswx: nah we just recover, it's stupidity to work today [11:16] it may make you more productive in the short run, but less productive overall [11:17] Same with working >40 hours consistently :) [11:18] mlankhorst: Lol, took me a few days myself from UDS-O and I had to start 40/wk right after. It's the most fun you can have :) [11:20] bcurtiswx: Im not going to do any work related things today, I need to calm down rest and readjust first. :) [11:21] mlankhorst: Darn, and I had three pages of sync requests I wanted to discuss. [11:22] bcurtiswx: That's the beauty about rest, I can just say "it can wait". :) [11:23] Very zen! === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === zyga is now known as zyga-food === zyga-food is now known as zyga [16:29] yay! I'm a GNOME Foundation member now [16:30] jbicha, hey, congrats! [16:30] jbicha, had a good flight back? [16:31] seb128: yeah, I didn't sleep as well on the plane though, my mind had too much exciting stuff to think about [16:31] hehe [16:33] Lars & I walked from the Embarcadero all the way around to Ghiradelli Square [16:33] ok, time to walk a little bit outside and then dinner for early evening :) [16:33] see you tomorrow everyone! [16:33] I think I walked 10 miles on Saturday [16:38] seb128: hey [16:38] vuntz, hey, how are you? [16:38] seb128: remember you pinged me months ago about versions-stable-extras not having the right versions for some modules? [16:39] vuntz, yes [16:39] seb128: I've fixed the scripts to make it possible to avoid that, so now, when you see a module with this issue, just tell me which one :-) [16:39] great! [16:39] vuntz, thanks [16:40] of course, this will have to be fixed again for all modules each time there's a new stable version, but that's not too much work [16:40] how was UDS? [16:41] quite good [16:41] jbicha signed up to do a "Ubuntu GNOME" respin [16:41] * kenvandine is feeling a bit fried, gotta get my brain jump started :) [16:41] i.e gnome-shell, upstream branding, epiphany, abiword, gnumeric, etc [16:42] yeah, I've seen that, that's great :-) [16:43] got to go, bbl [16:56] * bcurtiswx is excited to be getting back into Desktop team stuff this cycle :) [16:57] kenvandine, you can ignore my e-mail from last week [16:58] bcurtiswx, oh... sorry i had forgotten already :) === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [16:59] kenvandine, i don't know why I got the error in there but my intentions with that branch were wrong [17:00] Folks 0.6.9 fixes a high heat LP bug, and I'm working on Empathy 3.4.2 which has bug fixes and takes care of an LP bug too [17:00] I don't quite remember how Debian Syncs work for SRU's [17:01] i've never done one for an SRU [17:04] bug #917302 has a fix in folks 0.6.9 which is a bug fix release but as of right now we had that as a sync since we don't need to be diff from upstream [17:04] Launchpad bug 917302 in empathy "empathy-chat crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917302 [17:05] right now folks is 0.6.8 [17:05] bcurtiswx: SRUs are generally cherry picked, you can sync to the devel release though [17:06] micahg, so best practice would be cherry pick the one fix i need (out of two) and let the sync happen in Q?? [17:06] bcurtiswx, do the sync to Q first [17:08] bcurtiswx: if there are only 2 fixes and the risk is not that great, you might be able to SRU the new version [17:08] but as kenvandine said, dev release comes first [17:09] folks and empathy would get an update anyway, part of the gnome stack [17:09] get it in Q then we'll look at them for SRU [17:13] kenvandine, micahg sounds good, thx [17:13] np: :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [18:30] AWESOME :( [18:31] * dobey wonders which update exactly, broke the keyboard world [18:35] * kenvandine is about to shutdown to do a clean install of quantal :) [18:41] dobey, keyboard breakage in what way? [18:41] GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `string' got `list' for key /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/switch_windows [18:41] every keybinding in metacity, breaking [18:42] running "gnome-control-center keyboard" prints *lots* of those in the terminal [18:43] dobey, ok [18:43] but for some reason, also seems to be broken upstream [18:43] hi, looks like Bryce and Robert both worked on rhythmbox at the same time: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/rhythmbox/quantal-201205140516/+merge/105608 [18:43] which is weird, as it was working fine, until some update during the past week [18:49] at least "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/metacity/global_keybindings /apps/metacity/window_keybindings" fixes it [18:49] at laest, until something decides to trample them all again [19:16] for a sync, if the debian package contains a fix for an LP reported bug, do I edit the debian changelog or how does that all work? [19:16] im using requestsync package right now [19:17] bcurtiswx: should just work, afaik [19:17] cyphermox, do I add a part to the changelog to indicate which LP bug is fixed? [19:17] it's not indicated? [19:17] cyphermox, i wasn't sure since it's bringing over the debian changelog in the sync [19:18] a sync shouldn't be making changes [19:18] cyphermox, OK, so just fix-release the LP bugs that are fixed by the debian sync? [19:18] manually [19:19] or can be done with the syncpackage command once the sync is reviewed [19:19] just mention which bugs in the sync bug [19:19] bcurtiswx: if the debian bug is referenced (and thus closed upstream), and the LP bug is watching the upstream, i would think it would be fairly automagic [19:19] if it's not, maybe some magic needs to be added for that [19:20] dobey, OK. I'll let the wizard in the build machines do the hard work then :) [19:20] i haven't really done anything with debian packages directly yet, though. so maybe i am just being hopeful :) [19:21] bug #999290 thx all [19:21] Launchpad bug 999290 in folks "Sync folks 0.6.9-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999290 [19:28] I guess we'll hit bug 1 million this week [19:28] jbicha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug) [19:28] yeah, that too [19:36] bcurtiswx: does the Debian changelog has already the "LP: #xxx" magic token in it? [19:37] geser, no [19:38] bcurtiswx: then the Ubuntu task has to be manually set to "Fix released" once the sync is done [19:39] geser, OK. not a problem. I just wanted to make sure i wasn't supposed to add it to the sync changelog myself [19:39] jbicha: hopefully we don't find any code which assumes that bug numbers have 6 digits [19:43] bcurtiswx: syncs get copied from Debian unmodified, I'm not sure right now if an existing "LP: #xxx" in the new Debian changelog entries would get pickuped with LP API syncs [19:46] Laney: ^^ do you know this? [19:48] geser: it should do [20:48] chrisccoulson, i did a clean install with quantal, i am going to see how long i can hold out without install evolution :) [20:58] kenvandine: we need people to test Evolution too :) [20:59] jbicha, i've never lasted more than a couple days without evo :) [20:59] jbicha, but i do still have it on my desktop, which i am sure will get upgraded soon [20:59] good, because we'll be getting Evolution 3.4 soon [21:00] looking forward to it [21:00] the first time setup for tbird with gmail is pretty bad... [21:00] UI is fine [21:01] but it's been nearly an hour and it is still pegging a CPU and using a ton of memory [21:01] 3G RSS and 89% CPU === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:30] Good $TIMEOFDAY folks. Hope everybody had safe travels home. [22:40] * bryceh waves [22:45] Hey bryceh. You were one of the fortunate ones who didn't have very far to go at all. [22:55] TheMuso, for once... [22:56] TheMuso, the no jet lag thing was nice too :-) [22:59] Good yo! [23:02] Morning RAOF. I hope you slept well. [23:03] I know I did, crashed by 7:30 last night. [23:03] And woke up at about 6:40 this morning. [23:03] I woke a bit early, but that was because I was going to morning exercise. [23:04] Ah ok. [23:04] I managed to last until 9:30 ish last night. [23:04] Not too bad, traveling in business has its purks, like getting better sleep. [23:04] No business for me on the way home :/ [23:04] Just the way over :) [23:05] Damn. [23:05] Oh well. [23:07] Yeah. [23:07] At least I now know where the power is in economy on the A380s :) [23:07] Yep, I know where it is too, but haven't had the need to use it yet. [23:14] We have a gtk2-engines-oxygen SRU? Really?!