[01:29] <snail> local staff member on our internal blog "On a bit of a tangent, if you want to annoy/amuse a computer person you  can try asking them what a Linux is. Is it a type of big cat that lives  in central Asia?"
[01:35] <ibeardslee> heh
[01:43] <snail> ibeardslee: sorry i missed you on the bus the other day
[01:43] <snail> ibeardslee: i only noticed you as you were getting off
[02:13] <ibeardslee> snail: hmm? wha?
[02:13]  * ibeardslee seems to have had brain fade from about 8:30 this morning
[02:13] <snail> ibeardslee: if you didn't notice it it wasn't a slight
[02:13] <snail> :)
[02:30] <ibeardslee> re: ubuntu-nz.org I do vaguely recall someone going to talk to someone about that .. can't remember who it was
[02:32] <kcj> Ah.
[02:33] <ibeardslee> seems to be a fairly default page for eg ubuntu-cn.org
[02:34] <ibeardslee> I'll put it on my list of things to try to remember to do
[02:35] <kcj> So long as you don't forget where you put the list. :P
[02:35] <ibeardslee> have postit notes about 1/2 way around my 2x20" screens
[02:36] <kcj> lol
[05:00] <ajmitch> hi robert_ancell
[05:01] <robert_ancell> ajmitch, hey
[05:02] <ajmitch> how was your flight back? long & boring? :)
[05:03] <robert_ancell> yup :)
[05:04] <ajmitch> probably don't want it to be too exciting
[19:16] <ajmitch> morning
[19:18] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:56] <mwhudson> morning
[21:02] <chilts> morning
[21:13] <thumper> morning
[22:29] <hads> morning
[22:43] <kcj> Morning.
[22:57] <karora> morning
[22:57]  * karora idly wonders how fmarier is enjoying life in Auckland...
[22:58] <ojwb> morning
[23:15] <Veritay> morning :)
[23:18] <thumper> karora: fmarier moved to auckland?
[23:19] <karora> Aye, he's working for Mozilla now.
[23:22] <ajmitch> oh nice
[23:22] <ajmitch> so there's another person we can bug about firefox problems
[23:25] <ajmitch> interesting timing, I just got back from UDS yesterday & have google recruiting spam in my inbox this morning
[23:26]  * ojwb had one the other day
[23:26] <ojwb> perhaps there's a recruiting push
[23:26] <ajmitch> this email mentioned UDS by name
[23:27] <ojwb> they're very persistent given I've never responded at all
[23:27] <ojwb> mine didn't
[23:27] <mwhudson> ajmitch: :/
[23:27] <ojwb> mention UDS that is, but then I didn't go
[23:27] <mwhudson> they emailed me at my @canonical.com address the other week
[23:31] <ajmitch> it's been awhile since they last contacted me, I probably haven't been active enough to get on their lists
[23:38] <lifeless> ajmitch: you need to get blacklisted
[23:39] <lifeless> ajmitch: e.g. ask a friend at google to put a note on your file that says <do not contact> or similar. Its very effective.
[23:39] <mwhudson> ah, that's a good idea
[23:39] <mwhudson> maybe i can ask _all_ the people at google to do that
[23:39] <mwhudson> kinda a reverse ddos or something
[23:40] <mwhudson> *all the people i know
[23:41] <lifeless> only takes one
[23:41] <lifeless> I whinged to, jaq, I think it was, after the Nth time around with 'yes, I will talk with you if you tell me your HR department supports telecommuniting'
[23:42] <lifeless> politely, of course, and I haven't heard anything since ;)
[23:42] <mwhudson> my line is usually "let me know when you open your wellington office"
[23:42] <ojwb> i don't think I'd want to telecommute for a large company where almost everyone else is in the office
[23:42] <lifeless> there is an akl one I believe.
[23:42] <lifeless> but marketing only
[23:42] <mwhudson> yeah
[23:43] <lifeless> ojwb: as soon as they have 2 offices, you're telecommuting already, in a sense.
[23:43] <lifeless> ojwb: for a single company, <= dunbars number, w/no telecommunity, I wouldn't want to be the odd one out
[23:43] <ojwb> sure, but it's different being a small group vs just one person
[23:43] <mwhudson> though i'm still happy at canonical so there's a large part of "don't call me, i'll call you" in there as well
[23:43] <ojwb> yeah, I was at eidos, and it didn't really work
[23:44] <lifeless> but once the company has to understand time zones and cannot-do-in-person, well, I think telecommuting is a huge win
[23:44] <lifeless> ojwb: you were the odd one out ?
[23:44] <ojwb> this was same country, but you miss out on a lot of stuff
[23:44] <ojwb> yes
[23:44] <lifeless> yeah, it needs to be cultural
[23:45] <ojwb> officially you couldn't even do it at eidos, but my boss just ignored HR
[23:46] <lifeless> yah
[23:46] <lifeless> first time around with google they pulled that on me
[23:46] <lifeless> I laughed, politely.
[23:46] <lifeless> my reply to their initial query was 'I'm happy where I am, and the things that make me happy are x,y,z,telecommuting'
[23:46] <lifeless> ... but if you think I'd be happier with you, please explain :)
[23:48] <ojwb> well, i'd be happy not to telecommute I think, though it might take a while to adjust as i've been self-employed or equivalent and worked from home for about 12 years
[23:49] <ojwb> not interested in moving country again though
[23:54] <mwhudson> thumper: you're enjoying recruitment issues too?
[23:54] <lifeless> ojwb: its exhausting
[23:54] <thumper> mwhudson: heh... kinda
[23:54] <thumper> mwhudson: are you trawling through CVs too?
[23:54] <mwhudson> thumper: no, just looking at twitter
[23:54] <thumper> heh
[23:54] <thumper> I guessed, it was a very quick response from you :)