[00:54] <bschaefer> thomi, hey, I wanted to update you one what I found about the ibus test before jenkins started acting weird
[00:54] <bschaefer> on*
[00:56] <thomi> bschaefer: Hey
[00:56] <thomi> sorry - had a power cut at thumper's place, so I drove home
[00:57] <thomi> ...then I needed to light the fire to stop the cats complining :-/
[00:57] <bschaefer> power cut? Is that pretty much a power outage?
[00:57] <thomi> yeah
[00:57] <bschaefer> that sucks!
[00:57] <thomi> my place is fine :)
[00:57] <bschaefer> and cats need fire haha
[00:58] <bschaefer> that's good! Hope your traveling went well also!
[00:58] <bschaefer> so pretty much with the ibus anthy sometimes that check box is still off! It seems...it is very weird...
[00:58] <thomi> yeah, I'm almost over the jetlag
[00:58] <bschaefer> nice!
[00:59] <thomi> which checkbox?
[00:59] <bschaefer> umm that wouldn't allow adding any engines
[00:59]  * bschaefer looks up the name
[00:59] <thomi> It's going to take me a while to get mu head back into the game... so much happened at UDS
[00:59] <bschaefer> the Customize active input names check box under Input Methods
[00:59] <thomi> ahh
[00:59] <thomi> right
[01:00] <bschaefer> yeah I was listing in as much as I could haha
[01:00] <bschaefer> but Im guessing you had to do more actual work ;)
[01:00] <thomi> bschaefer: so we're setting that checkbox from autopilot, right?
[01:00] <bschaefer> let me pull up a video of it!
[01:00] <bschaefer> yeah!
[01:00] <bschaefer> that is what fixed Pinyin and Hangul
[01:00] <bschaefer> but anthy is still being fussy
[01:01] <thomi> hmm, ok
[01:02] <bschaefer> I don't want to strain you to much, just wanted to you see it haha!
[01:02] <bschaefer> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/dx-autopilot-fix-ibus/82/label=1EBEE0FF-DAC9-11DF-BBDA-64A98C34D485/artifact/artifacts/autopilot.tests.test_ibus.IBusTestsAnthy.test_simple_input_hud%20%28system,commit_enter%29.ogv
[01:03] <bschaefer> but what is odd is a video from run 81 shows that the toggle is ON, but it still fails :(
[01:04] <bschaefer> for example this one has the toggle box on :(, but anthy still fails to work:
[01:04] <bschaefer> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/dx-autopilot-fix-ibus/81/label=1EBEE0FF-DAC9-11DF-BBDA-64A98C34D485/artifact/artifacts/autopilot.tests.test_ibus.IBusTestsAnthy.test_simple_input_dash%20%28user,commit_j%29.ogv
[01:04] <bschaefer> thomi, but that I was pushing some test after that then jenkins got stuck! Sooo yeah
[01:04] <thomi> is it still stuck?
[01:04] <bschaefer> yeah
[01:05] <bschaefer> it keeps rebuilding it...
[01:05] <bschaefer> but not running that test, I figured you were busy and I can always wait haha
[01:05]  * thomi looks now
[01:05] <bschaefer> it went crash a couple days ago...
[01:05] <bschaefer> crazy*
[01:08] <thomi> *sigh* ssh tunnel seems to have died
[01:08] <bschaefer> :(
[01:10] <thomi> hmm, rsync isn't working I'm guessing we no longer make precise daily ISO images:
[01:10] <thomi> + rsync -c -azL -i --progress cdimage.ubuntu.com::cdimage/daily-live/current/*-desktop-i386.iso working/daily-live.iso
[01:10] <thomi> ERROR: destination must be a directory when copying more than 1 file
[01:10] <thomi> rsync error: errors selecting input/output files, dirs (code 3) at main.c(571) [Receiver=3.0.8]
[01:10] <thomi> should we be using precise or quantal I wonder?
[01:11] <bschaefer> oo ok, well that would sense
[01:11] <bschaefer> hmm
[01:11] <bschaefer> well if quantal makes ibus work then we should use that :P
[01:11] <bschaefer> haha,
[01:12] <bschaefer> thomi, I think we should push those changes you made that fixed about 66% of the failures
[01:12] <bschaefer> well the Pinyin and hangul, to the main branch
[01:12] <thomi> bschaefer: do you feel like preparing a MP to unity trunk with those changes?
[01:12] <bschaefer> yeah I can!
[01:12] <thomi> We obviously want to strip out all the debuggin stuff we added!
[01:12] <bschaefer> since I really changed that branch haha
[01:12] <bschaefer> yeah
[01:13]  * bschaefer goes to do that
[01:14] <thomi> I need to debug a unity crash, so I may not be around for a while...
[01:15] <bschaefer> no worries, Ill get that branch set up and Ill email you if you're not around with the MP
[01:15] <bschaefer> good luck!
[01:32] <thomi> found the problem... :(
[01:36] <bschaefer> and I just pushed the branch!
[01:37] <bschaefer> what was the problem?
[01:39] <bschaefer> thomi, https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/ap-ibus-test-fixes/+merge/105595
[01:56] <thomi> bschaefer: cheers
[01:56] <thomi> the problem was that you can't add a null gchar* to a GVariant
[01:56] <thomi> the root cause is that we're using a gchar* in the first place :(
[01:58] <thomi> bschaefer: approved - thanks
[02:00] <bschaefer> thomi, o, hmm could you point me to your branch that fixes that? Did you just change it to a gstring? or std::string?
[02:00] <bschaefer> thomi, and np!
[02:00]  * bschaefer still new ish to GVariant haha
[02:00] <bschaefer> is
[02:01] <thomi> bschaefer: I'm changing it to a std::string now
[02:01] <bschaefer> oo cool!
[02:02] <bschaefer> I just want to make sure I don't make that same error and know how to fix it haha
[02:02] <bschaefer> thomi, thank you, and Im about to go to the golfing range. Have a good rest of your day :)
[02:03] <thomi> you too
[02:03] <thomi> hane fun!
[02:03] <thomi> *have
[05:43] <windbuntu> i don't know if any of you actually created unity desktop in ubuntu, but i must say, if you did, you did one hell of a job. i love it.
[11:24] <Andy80> hi :)
[11:37] <huayra> hey
[11:37] <huayra> How is support for Unity in other distros or kernels?
[11:38] <Zhenech> N/A
[11:38] <huayra> I am thinking on moving back to debian (jumped onto Ubuntu in 2005) but would like to keep using thsi as the GUI/shell
[11:39] <huayra> Zhenech, you mean it is not available at all, or people has not packaged it yet?
[11:39] <Zhenech> feel free to join me and other in #debian-ayatana on irc.debian.org and help us bring unuty to debian :)
[11:39] <Zhenech> i mean that it needs way too many ubuntu specific parts at the moment and thus not available
[11:40] <Zhenech> and tehre are not enough ppl to help
[11:40] <Zhenech> (as always)
[11:40] <huayra> Zhenech, indeed. But I mean... IS the upstream work in unity so bad that it is hard-or-close-to-impossible to package it for debian?
[11:40] <huayra> I mean, I think of Ubuntu as debian...
[11:41] <Zhenech> I didnt say its bad
[11:42] <Zhenech> it just depends on much stuff, that isnt available outside ubuntu (yet)
[11:42] <huayra> right
[12:06] <mhall119> can a unity dev confirm that what this person is asking for isn't possible? http://askubuntu.com/questions/135146/how-to-add-checkbox-or-radio-buttons-to-a-unity-quicklist
[16:04] <mhall119> tedg: can you answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/98692/how-to-add-support-for-the-global-menu-to-a-python-non-gtk-non-qt-app ?  It seems to come up every once in a while, so it might be good to write up some documentation for it on developer.u.c
[16:05] <tedg> Eh, it's kinda a hard question.
[16:05] <tedg> The reality is "use a reasonable toolkit" I think is a reasonable answer :-)
[16:05] <mhall119> not as easy as just exporting a DBus menu under a certain name?
[16:06] <tedg> mhall119, Well, it's exporting it and registering it.  But we'd also like people to start converting to GMenuModel.
[16:06] <tedg> So it's building a GMenuModel and exporting it.
[16:06] <jussi01> so... our ui is supposed to be touch friendly, right? I guess the HUD covers it, but is it the only way to access menu's on a touch device?
[16:06] <mhall119> does it currently support GMenuModel?
[16:06] <tedg> Then setting XAtoms...
[16:07] <mhall119> jussi01: the UI is supposed to work across form factors, not just touch
[16:07] <tedg> jussi01, We've talked about various things, but it'll definitely require a new rendering of the menus.  Since they're already abstracted, that's possible though.
[16:07] <jussi01> mhall119: yes, but I now have a touch device...
[16:07] <mhall119> jussi01: oh, fancy, which one?
[16:07] <jussi01> mhall119: old Dell XT2
[16:08] <jussi01> for some values of old that is
[16:08] <mhall119> multi-touch capable?
[16:08] <jussi01> yes
[16:10] <jussi01> mhall119: its about 2 years old, I think
[16:14] <jussi01> mhall119: also, one little dashissue, if you like - try searching for quassel under applications
[16:15] <mhall119> jussi01: oh, so many  to choose from
[16:16] <ccooke> jussi01: The HUD is much more useful on a device with a keyboard than touch, really
[16:16] <mhall119> looks like there are qt4 and qt5 versions
[16:16] <jussi01> mhall119: yeah, there is quassel, quassel client - easy. but then there are the non kde integrated versions (-qt4)
[16:16] <mhall119> jussi01: not really a dash issue, it should be fixed in the package descriptions
[16:16] <mhall119> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/search/?q=quassel&op= lists the same 4
[16:17] <jussi01> mhall119: ahh ok then. I thought it would be a dash issue because there is no tooltip or anything to get more info (like the package name...)
[16:17] <mhall119> file a bug against https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel
[16:21] <jussi01> mhall119: will do
[16:44] <bregma> jussi01, I have a Dell XT2, and while it's true multitouch, it leaves a lot to be desired
[16:58] <osmosis> how do I get rid of the sticky windows stickey mouse behavior? the edge of the screen always grabs my cursor when I am trying to go between screens, and when I am trying to drag windows across too.
[17:44] <jono> hey folks
[17:44] <jono> is there any particular reason why the default YouTube is not in the videos lens?
[18:04] <mhall119> davidcalle: ^^
[18:04] <mhall119> my guess would be API or license issues
[18:07] <malin> mhall119 and or davidcalle how was UDS?
[18:12] <mhall119> malin: fun but busy
[18:14] <malin> ok :)
[19:03] <malin> in what metapackage is debuild ?
[19:03] <malin> and how can I search to figure out what metapackage a program is in?
[20:13] <mhall119> malin: just install ubuntu-dev-tools, it's the easiest way to get started
[20:14] <mhall119> apt-file will let you search for packages based on the files they contain
[21:44] <davidcalle> jono, ping
[21:44] <jono> hey davidcalle
[21:45] <davidcalle> jono, the default Youtube is not in the default video lens for "quality reasons", apparently, there was a lot of garbage coming with the results. You might want to ask it to ralsina in #ubuntuone
[21:46] <davidcalle> jono, I kind of agree that it's missing.
[21:46] <jono> davidcalle, gotcha
[21:46] <jono> yeah it just struck me that most people will care about youtube
[21:48] <thumper> hi jono
[21:48] <jono> hey thumper
[22:15] <Andy80> davidcalle: actually che Youtube lens is not showing anything interesting. Belive me: people (including me) really expect to have the same results provided by a search on Youtube search box.