[00:09] <snap-l> And, when I make a mistake, it's nice to be able to go back and just run a script to re-make the show.
[10:38] <rick_h_> hah https://twitter.com/#!/isaiah/status/201815165744848897
[10:38] <rick_h_> and morning
[11:44] <shakes808> Good Morning
[11:45] <rick_h_> morn
[11:56] <shakes808> How are things in the world of rick?
[11:56] <shakes808> You might like this :D http://shirt.woot.com/
[11:57] <rick_h_> ok here, just busy.
[11:58] <shakes808> That is a good thing
[11:58] <shakes808> Did you know: Joan of ArcA survey reported that 12% of Americans think that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.
[11:59] <rick_h_> I'll file that one under my general assumption that at least 75% of the work population is dump as bricks
[11:59] <rick_h_> dumb that is
[12:00] <rick_h_> see that I fit into that 75% please
[12:00] <brousch> or they said it because it's funny
[12:00] <rick_h_> see the original point
[12:01] <shakes808> lol
[12:06] <brousch> :P
[12:48] <wolflarson> I have heard that when dealing with linux you need to pick gnome or KED. Is this true with ubuntu? (there seems to be no option)
[12:49] <rick_h_> wolflarson: so Ubuntu ships with "Unity" by default for you to use
[12:49] <rick_h_> which is based on top of many Gnome technologies
[12:49] <rick_h_> it's meant to be easy for new users and not give them unnecessary decisions to make, but if you're a fan of kde you can try it out as well, just more work
[12:51] <wolflarson> oh i am new and so not a fan of ether, just something i read
[12:51] <rick_h_> wolflarson: yea, I'd not worry about it then and just start with the out of the box experience
[12:51] <wolflarson> ok thank you
[12:52] <brousch> try all 3 and see which you like best
[12:52] <brousch> unity, gnome3, kde
[12:53] <rick_h_> bah, if you're new just get your feet wet before window manager hopping imo
[12:53] <rick_h_> there's enough adjustment/learning to start with
[12:53] <wolflarson> i seem to have an issue when i partitioned my HD C:\ is no longer my primary partition, how bad is this?
[12:57] <brousch> linux doesn't use drive letters
[12:58] <brousch> are you trying to preserve an old windows install, or blow it away and install linux?
[13:00] <wolflarson> keep my win 7 because i have only tried the demo and i am not sure how useful it will be
[13:01] <wolflarson> i created a 10 GB partition and formatted it ntfs but now my C:\ is a "healthy" partition and not the  primary one
[13:01] <brousch> i haven't actually done a side by side install, but i think the ubun tu installer does the partition stuff for you
[13:01] <wolflarson> oh ...
[13:02] <wolflarson> so delete the partition?
[13:02] <brousch> i don't know
[13:02] <brousch> i don't have win7
[13:02] <wolflarson> ok well i just finised downloading the iso so i will see how it goes
[13:02] <brousch> if your data ended up on the new partition, you shouldn't delete it
[13:03] <wolflarson> it is not it seems to be empty of all data
[13:04] <wolflarson> but i don't know how to put it back in to the C partition
[13:04] <wolflarson> if linux does not use drive letters what does it use?
[13:08] <brousch> mount points
[13:09] <brousch> your "C" drive is kind of like "/"
[13:09] <brousch> your CD-ROM will be at something like /media/cdrom
[13:09] <wolflarson> what else will be in media? would / be like root?
[13:10] <brousch> yes, / is root
[13:11] <brousch> on windows you have c:\documents and settings\wolflarson\ for your personal stuff, on linux that will be /home/wolflarson
[13:12] <wolflarson> so would cards be in / too?   /cards/wireless and the NIC ?
[13:12] <brousch> nope, hardware devices are in /dev
[13:13] <brousch> so there's actually a /dev/cdrom too
[13:14] <wolflarson> ah ok and USB is there too?
[13:14] <brousch> right
[13:14] <wolflarson> thank you for explaining that
[13:15] <wolflarson> well this hours over next class :)
[13:31] <brousch> rick_h_: what's your pyohio talk?
[13:32] <rick_h_> brousch: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/663/ is my little abstract submissions
[13:33] <brousch> wow, nice!
[13:33] <rick_h_> just kind of a general "if you're going an app/library you have no excuse for not having docs/tests/package on pypi"
[13:33] <brousch> i like how the description is web framework agnostic
[13:33] <rick_h_> so try to show how an hour's work can make all that happen and using free services/automation
[13:33] <rick_h_> yea, think I'll just do something wsgiref or basic. The idea is not the app, but the stuff around the app
[13:33] <brousch> right
[13:33] <rick_h_> just need something to do hello world via gunicorn on heroku
[13:34] <rick_h_> that's the idea at least, not written yet, and two things on the list I've not used/done before
[13:34] <rick_h_> so it fits the bill on talking about something you can learn a bit about as well
[13:35] <snap-l> rick_h_: I'm totally there.
[13:35] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, figure worst case I'll be able to say I told you guys this stuff when I package up your github repo next time :P
[13:35] <rick_h_> but hard to think of topic ideas this year
[13:36] <shakes808> rick_h_: When and where is this going to be? This is what I need to do, correct? With getting me set up on github and getting my projects started?
[13:36] <rick_h_> shakes808: this will be at PyOhio end of July
[13:36] <rick_h_> see pyohio.org
[13:36] <rick_h_> (as long as it's accepted)
[13:37] <rick_h_> shakes808: and yea, that's the idea, it'll be an intense beginner talk I think since it's not going to require deep code knowledge
[13:37] <brousch> i'm sure it will be
[13:37] <rick_h_> but hopefully it'll poke a few more advanced users/expose some new tools/things as well
[13:37] <rick_h_> so good for all ages! :)
[13:38] <shakes808> :( I have my son that weekend, I won't be able to go.
[13:38] <rick_h_> how old? bring him along :)
[13:38] <shakes808> 6
[13:38] <shakes808> lol
[13:38] <rick_h_> I'm trying to talk my little brother into coming down with me this year
[13:38] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[13:38] <shakes808> His eyes will glaze over
[13:38] <rick_h_> well they are recorded as well
[13:39] <snap-l> They have been in the past
[13:39] <rick_h_> yea, I took my wife/1yr old a couple of years ago
[13:39] <rick_h_> it was ok, but nothing really great for the little ones
[13:39] <shakes808> my son: "What the fuck dad? Why am I here? Is there a Wii to play with?"
[13:39] <rick_h_> I wouldn't take my boy either
[13:39] <shakes808> lol
[13:39] <snap-l> rick_h_: You sure you're not thinking of codemash?
[13:40] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, remember when erica came down and hung out with jodee, was michael not around yet?
[13:40] <rick_h_> maybe he wasn't
[13:40] <rick_h_> sorry, all blurs
[13:40] <snap-l> I think I would have remembered that. :)
[13:40] <rick_h_> codemash rocked for the little one, my wife asked me to submit another talk for this next year
[13:40] <rick_h_> so yea, shakes808 put codemash on your calendar and get the boy, good times
[13:42] <brousch> rick_h_: you roomed with me 2 years ago. i have no recollection of an infant
[13:42] <snap-l> I have 6 running VMs on my machine
[13:42] <snap-l> this is awesome.
[13:43] <rick_h_> brousch: ok, so yea it was pre-boy I guess.
[13:43] <rick_h_> I know one year the wife came down, was ok but nothing grand
[13:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: lol
[13:43] <snap-l> brousch: Wasn't it more than two years?
[13:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: is this the work desktop?
[13:43] <brousch> pyohio 2010
[13:43] <shakes808> rick_h_: codemash is next year lol
[13:43] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, home machine only has 8gb
[13:43] <rick_h_> shakes808: yea, in Jan
[13:44] <rick_h_> snap-l: heh, yea I got special ram/etc consideration when I got that machine
[13:44] <rick_h_> it had more ram and larger drives than everyone else :)
[13:44] <snap-l> rick_h_: Thank you.
[13:44] <rick_h_> make buddies with those guys, pays off :)
[13:44] <shakes808> How much is it?
[13:44] <snap-l> 16GB
[13:44] <rick_h_> and laugh at their jokes about Diana and her screw driver
[13:44] <snap-l> rick_h_: I love our IT folks here.
[13:45] <snap-l> They make things work. I like that.
[13:47] <snap-l> also, the fact that our firewall isn't like Chrysler's firewall makes me very happy.
[13:47] <rick_h_> yea, they're pretty good about that part
[13:48] <rick_h_> but I think the built in bandwidth caps don't help :P
[13:48] <snap-l> Yeah, I think there's some funky QoS
[13:48] <snap-l> but I'd rather have funky QoS than half of the network blocked
[13:49] <snap-l> esp when you're looking for information on running Windows on Linux, and get flagged for a prohibited search (Alcohol)
[14:18] <jrwren> rick_h_: how old is your brother now? I remember one time you brought him to lightning talks or python group he was just a kid
[14:18] <rick_h_> jrwren: 21
[14:19] <jrwren> awe, they grow up so quick.
[14:19] <jrwren> how he is doing?
[14:19] <rick_h_> he started school at northern in Jan and tring to find out what to do so figured coming to PyOhio might be fun/exposure to some texch stuff
[14:21] <jrwren> ah, very cool.
[14:21] <jrwren> i really should go to pyOhio. I still feel python incompetent.
[14:22] <rick_h_> it's a great small conf
[14:42] <snap-l> jrwren: You should go to PyOhio
[14:42] <snap-l> Wash some of that .net stink off you.
[14:44] <brousch> omg, that reminds me
[14:45] <brousch> at tedxgr some random people joined me at a table. they were from a local dev shop or something. all they could talk about was sharepoint
[14:45] <brousch> "if you ever need sharepoint help or development, come see us!"
[14:46] <brousch> somehow i suppressed remarks about hot pokers in inappropriate places
[15:16] <jrwren> snap-l: i haven't done .net since Nov.
[15:16] <jrwren> how long does it take to get the stink off?
[15:16] <rick_h_> jrwren: 2 versions?
[15:16] <rick_h_> :P
[15:16] <jrwren> hahaha, shit at the turtle pace of .net, its gonna be a while.
[15:19] <snap-l> And you can't replace the stink of .net with Java.
[15:19] <snap-l> It's like trying to improve the smell of a latrine by taking a dump in it
[15:24] <jrwren> well, depends on teh stink, if you do mono and not .net then its all lilacs and lillies
[15:25] <snap-l> no matter how I try to convince her, JoDee assures me I cannot shit lilacs and lillies.
[15:25] <rick_h_> hah, until you blog about it and the OSS zealots get a hold of you :P
[15:26] <snap-l> I eagerly await the FSF's reversal on Java.
[15:26] <snap-l> Especially considering the vitriol over mono that frankly hasn't panned out.
[15:30] <brousch> snap-l: you shit what you eat
[15:30] <Milyardo> The virtiol over Mono was over patents, the current drama with Java currently is about something of which isn't even copyrightable
[15:30] <Milyardo> and if it is found to be copyrightable
[15:30] <snap-l> And patents
[15:30] <Milyardo> dear god help us all
[15:30] <snap-l> Remember, the other shoe hasn't dropped on that yet.
[15:31] <snap-l> But yet, Sun made Java GPL, so it's all good.
[15:31] <snap-l> except when it isn't.
[15:31] <Milyardo> If API are found to be copyrightable the copyright status of every implementation will have to reasssed
[15:32] <snap-l> I mean, Mono is... wait... LGPL / GPL / X11 licensed.
[15:32] <Milyardo> Also software patents will become useless
[15:32] <snap-l> As long as there is a buck to be made, software patents won't go away anytime soon
[15:33] <Milyardo> Why patent something when instead you can implement it any any similar implementation will become copyrightable by you without any involvement of a patent office
[15:34] <snap-l> Milyardo: Because it makes look and feel lawsuits so much easier.
[15:34] <snap-l> copyright doesn't cover that angle
[15:35] <Milyardo> Yes it does with the exansion of this copyright in this case
[15:36] <Milyardo> SSO does include how software in presented
[15:37] <jrwren> i'm afraid not
[15:37] <jrwren> and api are not copyrightable in general.
[15:37] <jrwren> BSD ATT case decided that long ago
[15:37] <jrwren> this case is about some specific api copyrights, not the general case.
[15:37] <jrwren> so even if oracle wins, it will not effect other software
[15:37] <jrwren> wine will be fine
[15:38] <snap-l> jrwren: we hope
[15:38] <jrwren> yes, we hope.
[15:38] <jrwren> and even if a judge goes nuts (which happens often in federal courts located in CA) there will still be mixed legal precidense
[15:38] <jrwren> precedence
[15:38] <snap-l> I can see this judge navigating a tight line, but if Oracle gets their way, expect other software manufacturers to follow
[15:39] <snap-l> and carefully ape whatever made pay-dirt for Oracle
[15:39] <jrwren> they can try, but its also very expensive to try
[15:40] <jrwren> say you go for wine or mono, who are you going to sue? no one has money of any significance there.
[15:40] <jrwren> nor marketshare.
[15:40] <jrwren> you would spend millions of dollars just to shut some people down with no financial gain.
[15:47] <rick_h_> so far the judge doesn't seem a complete moron
[15:47] <rick_h_> so I'm holding out hope, but I'm definitely not feeling that Google is 100% in the clear
[17:39] <shakes808> How many gamers do we have?
[17:39] <waldo323_> 42?
[17:39] <shakes808> lol
[17:39] <snap-l> Define gamer
[17:39] <snap-l> I'm more "old school" gaming. :)
[17:39] <snap-l> Mancala FTW!
[17:39] <shakes808> A person who plays games.
[17:40] <shakes808> MANCALA!!!! Hell yeah. lol
[17:40] <shakes808> little stones moving from divit to divit
[17:40] <shakes808> lol
[17:40] <shakes808> I would be referring, of course, to video (PC) games
[17:41] <snap-l> More modern games, then?
[17:42] <shakes808> Yes, sir
[17:42] <snap-l> We run Linux. There will be no more modern games here. :)
[17:42] <snap-l> TuxRacer For LIFE
[17:42] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux_Racer
[17:43] <shakes808> I will have to check if there is a linux ver of it, but my buddy just turned me on to this game League of Legends. It is an RTS type. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Legends
[17:43] <shakes808> Was wondering if anyone would want to try it out
[17:43] <shakes808> You are a hero and lvl up and what not
[17:44] <shakes808> it is FTP of course.
[17:44] <shakes808> Free-To-Play
[17:44] <snap-l> I think it's Windows only
[17:45] <snap-l> but working under Wine
[17:45] <shakes808> there is a download. Would anyone be interested in trying it out? I have played a few matches the last couple of nights and seems pretty fun
[17:45] <snap-l> and by working, I mean there's a forum posting out there on the net that purports to have working instructions
[17:46] <shakes808> and speaking of games snap-l, how is your game coming along?
[17:46] <snap-l> DNF
[17:47] <snap-l> Unfortunately I got mid-way through and realized it wasn't going to be much of a game without some more effort
[17:47] <snap-l> http://www.wildfiregames.com/0ad/
[17:47] <rick_h_> snap-l: so that just means you're doing pymonth right? :)
[17:48] <snap-l> Heh
[17:48] <snap-l> I might finish it, but right now I'm working on other stuff
[17:48] <snap-l> like last night I finished moving OMC to archive.org
[17:48] <shakes808> What game is that?
[17:48] <rick_h_> nice
[17:48] <snap-l> 0AD is a RTS
[17:49] <shakes808> Do you play that one?
[17:49] <snap-l> I've loaded it. Haven't played much of it
[17:49] <snap-l> We've played some freeciv in the past
[17:49] <snap-l> Also: http://www.xonotic.org/
[17:50] <shakes808> The 0AD looks like Age of Empires
[17:50] <snap-l> Yeah, it's very similar.
[17:50] <shakes808> or Total War series
[17:51] <shakes808> One of the games that I want/in the making is http://www.tribalwars.net
[17:51] <shakes808> it is a text based rts
[17:52] <JonEdney> I've been looking for a good RTS game, since I switched from Windows and cant play Company of Heroes.
[17:53] <shakes808> My plans for my RTS is to start off text based and then when it gets to a certain point start making it to a graphics game.
[17:53] <JonEdney> Very nice.,
[17:53] <shakes808> Gotta start somewhere
[17:53] <JonEdney> I was a big FPS person, then a friend got me into the RTS.
[17:53] <JonEdney> Absolutely.
[17:54] <shakes808> FPS's are fun but get too repeatitive
[17:54] <JonEdney> Yeah, I played FPS for over 10 years in leagues...i'm just burnt out from them now.
[17:54] <shakes808> RTS's can be too, but the strategy can change and what not
[17:54] <shakes808> nice
[17:54] <JonEdney> And now that I'm on Ubuntu 100%, not much to game on here.
[17:55] <shakes808> That is one reason why I kept my Win7 alive, but just barely lol
[17:55] <shakes808> I like to play games and not much for linux
[17:55] <JonEdney> Yeah my Wife's laptop took a crap so I had to throw my Win 7 on her laptop, so just went straight Ubuntu.
[17:56] <shakes808> Gotchya. What a good husband lol
[17:57] <JonEdney> I shoulda put Ubuntu on it and said "Sorry, all I had"
[17:58] <shakes808> lol
[17:58] <shakes808> That is what I would do
[17:58] <shakes808> lol
[17:58] <snap-l> http://www.wesnoth.org/
[17:58] <JonEdney> I was considering givving that a try snap-l
[17:58] <snap-l> I've played the single-player tutorials of this for a while
[17:58] <snap-l> It's pretty fun
[17:59] <rick_h_> gotta love it, start a django project and syntastic lights up on every file ootb
[18:01] <brousch> freeciv
[18:01] <shakes808> rick_h_: Are  you going to be at CHC Wednesday?
[18:01] <rick_h_> shakes808: yea, afaik
[18:02] <brousch> is it a good thing that syntastic lights up?
[18:02] <rick_h_> brousch: no, it means that pyflakes/pep8 are tossing out errors on the default files
[18:02] <rick_h_> which basically means the devs aren't using these tools I suppose...
[18:02] <shakes808> alright cool :D I am going to try to get the github stuff going and mess around with that. Could you help me out if I am having troubles?
[18:02] <rick_h_> which makes me die a little inside
[18:02] <brousch> pep8 is beneath django
[18:02] <JonEdney> Anyone from southeastern area?
[18:02] <rick_h_> shakes808: which github stuff?
[18:03] <rick_h_> JonEdney: most of us are
[18:03] <JonEdney> I was thinking about starting to come to the get togethers and stuff, but I'm still an ubuntu noob.
[18:04] <shakes808> I think I have it set up. I am going through the site and looking at what I need to do. I haven't uploaded anyting or messed with actual GitHub.
[18:04] <rick_h_> shakes808: ah ok so just making sure your remote is setup right and you can git push ?
[18:04] <shakes808> I am below noob of Ubuntu.
[18:04] <shakes808> yes
[18:04] <shakes808> :D
[18:04] <JonEdney> lol shakes808
[18:04] <rick_h_> shakes808: gotcha, k
[18:05] <snap-l> JonEdney: Didn't you come to CHC?
[18:05] <rick_h_> yea, np, github has instrucitons for that stuff that's pretty good but can be there to hold the life vest in case you jump off the ship
[18:05] <JonEdney> No I didnt snap-l
[18:05] <snap-l> Ah, I thought you had.
[18:05] <shakes808> I have a buddy that does this stuff as well and I am going to see if he can start some test files and I am going to do the same and see how going back and forth onthe different projects work and versioning works
[18:06] <shakes808> rick_h_: lol thanks
[18:06] <JonEdney> I'm going to have to check it out, they are every wednesday?
[18:11] <rick_h_> JonEdney: yes: http://coffeehousecode.appspot.com/locations/detroit.html
[18:12] <shakes808> rick_h_: Yeah, why is it Detroit when it really is Royal Oak?
[18:12] <rick_h_> shakes808: because originally there was only an AA one
[18:12] <rick_h_> and I was starting "Detroit" one because everyone can place Detroit
[18:13] <shakes808> Alcoholics Anon?
[18:13] <rick_h_> Ann Arbor
[18:13] <snap-l> Ann Arbor
[18:13] <rick_h_> they were the original
[18:13] <shakes808> Gotchya
[18:13] <rick_h_> how was I to know people would start others years later? :P
[18:13] <rick_h_> and actually be down-river
[18:13] <shakes808> HA HA
[18:13] <rick_h_> but now I've got 3+ years of posting/twitter/etc with CHC Detroit in it :/
[18:14] <shakes808> I mentioned CHC to a buddy and he was confused too lol
[18:14] <rick_h_> bah, I guess I should rename, but it's our second location so hate getting too specific
[18:14] <shakes808> Always have an announcement for changing it from Detroit to Royal Oak due to stoopid people like me that get confused lol
[18:14] <rick_h_> but the url would have to change, etc ugh
[18:15] <shakes808> lol All this work lol
[18:15] <JonEdney> Yeah, I'm in Westland, so close to all of them except Lansing, neat.
[18:15] <shakes808> JonEdney: you are almost in the middle of them all lol
[18:16] <rick_h_> wtf...call from a firm in TX, an out of the blue email from some recruiter I've never heard of...people quit trying to make me change jobs
[18:16] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, I've gotten calls like that.
[18:17] <snap-l> Especially if you're on linkedin or one of these other pro sites
[18:17] <rick_h_> seems like a flood today. Evidently I posted something somewhere bad
[18:17] <snap-l> Also think I get some from Google Searches.
[18:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: You're just awesome, and everyone wants a slice.
[18:17] <rick_h_> oh and the repeat google email
[18:17] <brousch> rick_h_: must be your pyohio talk
[18:17] <snap-l> brousch: ++
[18:18] <rick_h_> heh, "I might speak!" "ooooh, that's quality stuff!"
[18:19] <brousch> only the elite speak at pyohio
[18:19] <rick_h_> brousch would know, Mr Elite!
[18:20] <brousch> the animated gifs you use, the more elite you are
[18:20] <brousch> so i kick your ass
[18:21] <brousch> i don't have any good talk ideas
[18:21] <rick_h_> doh!
[18:22] <brousch> i had that build your own web framework idea, but haven't done anything with it
[18:26] <rick_h_> ok, I'm all for having coding standards, but making it up as you go isn't going to cut it
[18:26] <brousch> gotta start somewhere!
[18:26] <rick_h_> *sigh*
[18:28] <jrwren> i hate codeing standards.
[18:28] <jrwren> teh standard should be "does the code work?" if yes, its good
[18:28] <rick_h_> heh, not going to go there
[18:29] <jrwren> if not, its bad :)
[18:29] <jrwren> i'm j/k of course.
[18:29] <jrwren> but I find most impl of coding stanards are too ridgid
[18:30] <rick_h_> well when you've got a `make lint` command that rnus for that stuff...it should either follow/not
[18:30] <jrwren> yup
[18:37] <rick_h_> oh good grief, he's pilling our 2yr old diffs of the style guide doc on me
[18:55] <rick_h_> greg-g: so..as a baised yet still hater on unity...the first answer is: "Gnome 3 developers have dropped this from gnome-control-center with a recommendation that it be repackaged and available as a separate application."
[18:55] <rick_h_> greg-g: so how is that unity's fault?
[18:56] <snap-l> I honestly think a good number of things that Unity gets kicked about are a direct result of Gnome 3-isms
[18:57] <rick_h_> well sounds like the app got split, messed up, not packaged, etc...but I don't get how any of it is Unity's fault
[18:57] <rick_h_> unless I'm mis-understanding I guess
[18:57] <greg-g> rick_h_: I thought it was "it would show up in the systray, but only if you run this incantation specific to Unity"
[18:58] <greg-g> rick_h_: I mean, it works fine for my buddy on gnome-shell
[18:58] <rick_h_> greg-g: ok, so the issue isn't that the app went away/need backports/etc
[18:58] <greg-g> brb, conf call
[18:58] <rick_h_> it's the systray bit then
[18:58]  * greg-g nods
[20:00] <rick_h_> ouch, someone just got done reading some books and went off http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
[20:06] <greg-g> he had an amazeballs brain
[20:25] <shakes808> You all have a good day
[20:41] <greg-g> great, the week after I pay my money to NewsBlur, the site goes unresponsive :(
[20:42] <JonEdney> That's how it works.
[20:42] <JonEdney> CHC is like 45 minutes from me here in Westland, but I'm gonna try to check it out this week.
[21:03] <snap-l> rick_h_: Trust me, there's a lot of Tesla fans out there.
[21:13] <_stink_> i love this Tesla comic.
[21:14] <greg-g> snap-l: "Your music compatibility is: VERY LOW" :(
[21:15] <snap-l> greg-g: I haven't scrobbled anything with this new account
[21:15] <greg-g> oh, weird
[21:15] <snap-l> finally broke down and re-regiatered.
[21:15] <greg-g> the text version of the email from last.fm said that, but the website says "unknown"
[21:15] <snap-l> had an account a while back that I deleted.
[21:15] <greg-g> I sense a bug in their html->plain text conversion
[21:17] <snap-l> Before I was pissed off with CBS, but quite frankly, I want them to hear what I'm listening to now. :)
[21:18] <snap-l> ie: not them. :)
[21:19] <greg-g> heh
[21:54]  * krondor is still bitter about last.fm