| inetpro | sp | 06:46 |
|---|---|---|
| inetpro | good morning world | 06:47 |
| sakhi | Morning | 06:54 |
| superfly | heya sakhi | 06:55 |
| superfly | morning inetpro | 06:55 |
| nuvolari | o/ mornings | 07:11 |
| rossouwap | morning - anybody here using evolution for mail and gnome-shell instead of unity? | 08:33 |
| Reenen | I use gmail pretty much exclusively, or the locked in outlook for work | 08:39 |
| Reenen | :-( | 08:39 |
| Reenen | I haven't got latest installed yet | 08:40 |
| Reenen | Getting repo from my dad sometime | 08:40 |
| rossouwap | ok, thanks Reenen | 09:03 |
| charlvn | [6~ | 09:08 |
| charlvn | aargh sorry, strange why that keeps happening to me | 09:08 |
| charlvn | rossouwap: not using evolution but am using gnome shell on my one laptop | 09:08 |
| charlvn | what exactly seems to be the problem? | 09:09 |
| rossouwap | hi charlvn, not so much a problem as much as trying to figure out if it's limited to my machines or not | 09:09 |
| charlvn | ah, what' | 09:10 |
| charlvn | what's happening? | 09:10 |
| rossouwap | totally random, when I have a mail open and want to click in the body to copy some text - highlights from a completely random location. Makes it nearly impossible to copy text out of the mail body. | 09:10 |
| charlvn | that's very irritating | 09:10 |
| rossouwap | indeed | 09:10 |
| charlvn | are you running gnome-shell in 2d or 3d mode? | 09:11 |
| rossouwap | 3d - is only evolution that has this issue | 09:17 |
| rossouwap | had a similar thing with Unity and Evolution, where if Evolution was open, the alt-tab switcher refused to be on top of the windows | 09:18 |
| charlvn | in have had some strange behaviour in gnome 3d myself | 09:18 |
| rossouwap | now that was annoying | 09:18 |
| charlvn | i found unity to be very buggy which is why i moved to gnome 3d | 09:18 |
| charlvn | it's better but still buggy | 09:18 |
| charlvn | a lot of applications seem to work fine but you get strange behaviour in some | 09:19 |
| rossouwap | indeed, I like the shell | 09:19 |
| charlvn | on this computer i am currently just running kde and it seems to be much more stable | 09:19 |
| charlvn | which is strange cause it used to be the opposite - kde 4.x used to be a disaster compared to the "classic" gnome | 09:20 |
| charlvn | and so the tables turn and all that | 09:20 |
| charlvn | frankly i am ready to just go back to using openbox | 09:20 |
| rossouwap | lol | 09:29 |
| rossouwap | saw something last night that looked pretty hardcore - lemme find it quick | 09:30 |
| rossouwap | http://xmonad.org/ | 09:31 |
| Kerbero | hmm | 09:31 |
| Kerbero | i don't like xmonad | 09:31 |
| Kerbero | the idea is too eccentric for me | 09:32 |
| Kerbero | eksentriek | 09:32 |
| Kerbero | weird | 09:32 |
| bakuman | lol, nice little penguin at the keyboard: http://www.haskell.org/wikiupload/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg | 09:35 |
| inetpro | superfly: ping | 09:42 |
| superfly | inetpro: pong | 09:43 |
| inetpro | you running quasselcore 0.8.0 yet? | 09:43 |
| superfly | inetpro: no, my VPS is still running 10.04 | 09:43 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 09:43 |
| inetpro | does it make a difference? | 09:44 |
| bakuman | superfly, who are you renting the vps from? | 09:44 |
| inetpro | are you not running the static core? | 09:44 |
| superfly | bakuman: Linode.com | 09:44 |
| superfly | inetpro: no | 09:44 |
| inetpro | ahh | 09:44 |
| * inetpro wants to switch to the new static version | 09:44 | |
| inetpro | guess I shall be brave and just do it | 09:45 |
| inetpro | not a lot of documentation of changes | 09:46 |
| * inetpro wbb | 09:47 | |
| bakuman | superfly, is the service good? because they are way more expensive than trustVPS | 09:47 |
| inetpro | superfly: heh, it worked | 09:49 |
| superfly | bakuman: I haven't had any problems | 09:50 |
| bakuman | okay | 09:50 |
| superfly | bakuman: at least, none from them... most of the issues I have had have been self-induced ;-) | 09:50 |
| bakuman | lol, it happens | 09:51 |
| superfly | they have nice graphs and a dns manager... I'm very happy | 09:52 |
| bakuman | cool | 09:53 |
| Reenen | rossouwap: sometimes when you have HTML text it can't be copied and pasted (using outlook anyway) I presume there is some tag or something in the code preventing it | 09:53 |
| Reenen | I've never had the issue with RTF email settings | 09:54 |
| Reenen | on outlook I exclusively use RTF, but lots of people like the HTML emails | 09:54 |
| rossouwap | Reenen, it's not an HTML, RTF or text thing | 09:54 |
| Reenen | ok | 09:55 |
| rossouwap | it's specific to Evolution and gnome-shell - I don't have this issue when running Unity or Thunderbird. Thanks for the suggestions though. | 09:55 |
| nuvolari | bakuman: my linode uptime: 395d13h | 10:29 |
| nuvolari | I think that's a good sign :P | 10:29 |
| bakuman | nice | 10:31 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 14:26 |
| * inetpro was just struggling with a terribly basic networking issue | 14:26 | |
| inetpro | could not get the laptop connected to the wired network | 14:27 |
| inetpro | only to find that the NIC was disabled in the BIOS | 14:27 |
| superfly | heh | 14:28 |
| superfly | it's always the silly little things | 14:28 |
| inetpro | such a waste of time | 14:29 |
| * inetpro getting to old for this :-) | 14:29 | |
| bakuman | lol at python thread: lol "If you want that behavior now, just import that "from the future"" | 14:30 |
| bakuman | "from __future__ import division" | 14:31 |
| charlvn | inetpro: yeah but seriously, who expects that... i wouldn't either | 14:42 |
| charlvn | bakuman: yeah they do that to maintain backwards compatibility in python 2.x but if you use python 3 it should be the default behaviour | 14:44 |
| inetpro | charlvn: I thought I hit a major bug in kubuntu with the specific hardware | 14:44 |
| superfly | charlvn: actually, they did that to make it easier to move to Python 3 | 14:45 |
| superfly | Python 2.7 is supposed to be a step between Python 2.x and Python 3.x | 14:45 |
| superfly | The reality is that Python 3 is not really ready for the prime time. | 14:45 |
| charlvn | superfly: that too | 14:47 |
| charlvn | superfly: why is python 3 not ready for the prime time? | 14:49 |
| superfly | http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python3/ | 14:50 |
| zeref | hi guys | 14:50 |
| superfly | yo zeref | 14:51 |
| inetpro | superfly: hmm... | 14:51 |
| inetpro | written on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 | 14:51 |
| zeref | need a java fundie, i keep getting missing return statment | 14:51 |
| zeref | http://pastebin.com/fmgPcJH6 | 14:51 |
| zeref | hi superfly | 14:51 |
| superfly | zeref: what are you trying to do? | 14:52 |
| inetpro | zeref: that an assignment? | 14:53 |
| zeref | if a certain condition is met (reading a line in a file), it must return true else false, i've added them in (return statements) but i still get the missing return error | 14:53 |
| zeref | inetpro: yeah Student enrollment project for varsity | 14:54 |
| superfly | zeref: Your logic is incorrect | 14:54 |
| superfly | zeref: what does "return" do, and what happens to a "return" inside a "for" loop? | 14:56 |
| zeref | oh :P, saw it | 14:57 |
| charlvn | assign the boolean to a variable, break out of the loop and return it at the bottom | 14:58 |
| charlvn | there is nothing forcing the loop to execute the code at least once | 14:58 |
| charlvn | we know it does, but the compiler doesn't | 14:58 |
| charlvn | superfly: extremely interesting article, still busy reading | 14:59 |
| charlvn | bbl | 15:10 |
| superfly | zeref: coming right? | 15:18 |
| zeref | hmmm | 15:25 |
| zeref | i aasigned the boolean to a variable broke out the loop, now cannot find symbol, its a problem of local variable scope | 15:26 |
| zeref | *cannot find variable | 15:26 |
| superfly | Heh. | 15:27 |
| zeref | java dooes not have global varibales | 15:27 |
| zeref | :-( | 15:27 |
| superfly | zeref: you don't need global variables, they break logic. | 15:28 |
| superfly | zeref: you do, however, need an appropriately placed local variable | 15:28 |
| superfly | zeref: and this is not Java-specific. I could give you the exact same problem in C++, Python and Ruby, and the solution would be the same in all of them. | 15:30 |
| zeref | i see, reminds of an issue i had with python a while back :-) | 15:31 |
| superfly | zeref: pretend the loop doesn't exist, and I don't want the else in your if statement | 15:33 |
| superfly | zeref: do you follow me? | 15:36 |
| zeref | yep, working on it. | 15:37 |
| superfly | zeref: is it working yet? | 15:55 |
| zeref | lol no, i can feel that i'm missing somethig small | 15:58 |
| superfly | Pastebin the code | 15:58 |
| superfly | zeref: remember, they're not testing your Java skills, they're testing how you think | 15:59 |
| zeref | http://pastebin.com/bxVRKbun | 16:01 |
| zeref | i can feel i'm missing something small, myb need 5 min breka | 16:02 |
| superfly | zeref: what's the exact wording of the question? | 16:07 |
| superfly | zeref: i gotta go, my station is next. | 16:09 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:12 |
| Kilos | evening everybody | 18:51 |
| Kilos | quick coffee before bed | 18:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee ob | 18:51 |
| Maaz | Kilos: What? | 18:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 18:52 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 18:52 | |
| Kilos | not what? I bed your pardon you cheeky bot | 18:52 |
| Kilos | yo nuvolari als goed daar ?? | 18:53 |
| Kilos | en met julle superfly en inetpro | 18:54 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 18:54 |
| superfly | alles goed, net besig | 18:55 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 18:56 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 18:56 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 18:56 |
| zeref | superfly: fixed needed to add provate static boolean result on top of the method | 18:58 |
| nuvolari | lo om Kilos | 19:06 |
| nuvolari | dit is maar net-net oom | 19:06 |
| Kilos | wat nuvolari | 19:06 |
| Kilos | o | 19:07 |
| Kilos | haha is jy siek? | 19:07 |
| nuvolari | nee oom :P net aan die gang | 19:08 |
| nuvolari | gaan darm goed andersins | 19:08 |
| inetpro | hiho Kilos | 19:09 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro koud ne | 19:10 |
| inetpro | hmm.... die koue kom nog | 19:10 |
| Kilos | eish ek kry al klaar swaar | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ja hy begin al byt, veral in die oggende | 19:16 |
| Kilos | nie meer lekker op n bromponie nie | 19:17 |
| Kilos | sleep tight guys. see you tomorrow night | 19:20 |
| Kilos | Tonberry, meeting on the 21st hey? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | 1930 | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | mmm | 19:21 |
| Kilos | no time for beer evening | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | oh | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | ok | 19:21 |
| Kilos | lol\ | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | Kerbero beer evening 21st @ 1930? | 19:21 |
| Tonberry | :P | 19:22 |
| Kerbero | lol | 19:22 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:23 |
| Kilos | Kerbero, dont listen to him | 19:23 |
| nuvolari | night oom Kilos | 19:23 |
| nuvolari | lekker slaap | 19:23 |
| Kilos | night guys | 19:23 |
| Kilos | jy ook dankie seun | 19:23 |
| nuvolari | dankie oom | 19:23 |
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