[06:46] sp [06:47] good morning world [06:54] Morning [06:55] heya sakhi [06:55] morning inetpro [07:11] o/ mornings [08:33] morning - anybody here using evolution for mail and gnome-shell instead of unity? [08:39] I use gmail pretty much exclusively, or the locked in outlook for work [08:39] :-( [08:40] I haven't got latest installed yet [08:40] Getting repo from my dad sometime [09:03] ok, thanks Reenen [09:08] [6~ [09:08] aargh sorry, strange why that keeps happening to me [09:08] rossouwap: not using evolution but am using gnome shell on my one laptop [09:09] what exactly seems to be the problem? [09:09] hi charlvn, not so much a problem as much as trying to figure out if it's limited to my machines or not [09:10] ah, what' [09:10] what's happening? [09:10] totally random, when I have a mail open and want to click in the body to copy some text - highlights from a completely random location. Makes it nearly impossible to copy text out of the mail body. [09:10] that's very irritating [09:10] indeed [09:11] are you running gnome-shell in 2d or 3d mode? [09:17] 3d - is only evolution that has this issue [09:18] had a similar thing with Unity and Evolution, where if Evolution was open, the alt-tab switcher refused to be on top of the windows [09:18] in have had some strange behaviour in gnome 3d myself [09:18] now that was annoying [09:18] i found unity to be very buggy which is why i moved to gnome 3d [09:18] it's better but still buggy [09:19] a lot of applications seem to work fine but you get strange behaviour in some [09:19] indeed, I like the shell [09:19] on this computer i am currently just running kde and it seems to be much more stable [09:20] which is strange cause it used to be the opposite - kde 4.x used to be a disaster compared to the "classic" gnome [09:20] and so the tables turn and all that [09:20] frankly i am ready to just go back to using openbox [09:29] lol [09:30] saw something last night that looked pretty hardcore - lemme find it quick [09:31] http://xmonad.org/ [09:31] hmm [09:31] i don't like xmonad [09:32] the idea is too eccentric for me [09:32] eksentriek [09:32] weird [09:35] lol, nice little penguin at the keyboard: http://www.haskell.org/wikiupload/a/aa/Screen-triplehead-galois.jpg [09:42] superfly: ping [09:43] inetpro: pong [09:43] you running quasselcore 0.8.0 yet? [09:43] inetpro: no, my VPS is still running 10.04 [09:43] hmm... [09:44] does it make a difference? [09:44] superfly, who are you renting the vps from? [09:44] are you not running the static core? [09:44] bakuman: Linode.com [09:44] inetpro: no [09:44] ahh [09:44] * inetpro wants to switch to the new static version [09:45] guess I shall be brave and just do it [09:46] not a lot of documentation of changes [09:47] * inetpro wbb [09:47] superfly, is the service good? because they are way more expensive than trustVPS [09:49] superfly: heh, it worked [09:50] bakuman: I haven't had any problems [09:50] okay [09:50] bakuman: at least, none from them... most of the issues I have had have been self-induced ;-) [09:51] lol, it happens [09:52] they have nice graphs and a dns manager... I'm very happy [09:53] cool [09:53] rossouwap: sometimes when you have HTML text it can't be copied and pasted (using outlook anyway) I presume there is some tag or something in the code preventing it [09:54] I've never had the issue with RTF email settings [09:54] on outlook I exclusively use RTF, but lots of people like the HTML emails [09:54] Reenen, it's not an HTML, RTF or text thing [09:55] ok [09:55] it's specific to Evolution and gnome-shell - I don't have this issue when running Unity or Thunderbird. Thanks for the suggestions though. [10:29] bakuman: my linode uptime: 395d13h [10:29] I think that's a good sign :P [10:31] nice [14:26] yikes! [14:26] * inetpro was just struggling with a terribly basic networking issue [14:27] could not get the laptop connected to the wired network [14:27] only to find that the NIC was disabled in the BIOS [14:28] heh [14:28] it's always the silly little things [14:29] such a waste of time [14:29] * inetpro getting to old for this :-) [14:30] lol at python thread: lol "If you want that behavior now, just import that "from the future"" [14:31] "from __future__ import division" [14:42] inetpro: yeah but seriously, who expects that... i wouldn't either [14:44] bakuman: yeah they do that to maintain backwards compatibility in python 2.x but if you use python 3 it should be the default behaviour [14:44] charlvn: I thought I hit a major bug in kubuntu with the specific hardware [14:45] charlvn: actually, they did that to make it easier to move to Python 3 [14:45] Python 2.7 is supposed to be a step between Python 2.x and Python 3.x [14:45] The reality is that Python 3 is not really ready for the prime time. [14:47] superfly: that too [14:49] superfly: why is python 3 not ready for the prime time? [14:50] http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2011/12/7/thoughts-on-python3/ [14:50] hi guys [14:51] yo zeref [14:51] superfly: hmm... [14:51] written on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 [14:51] need a java fundie, i keep getting missing return statment [14:51] http://pastebin.com/fmgPcJH6 [14:51] hi superfly [14:52] zeref: what are you trying to do? [14:53] zeref: that an assignment? [14:53] if a certain condition is met (reading a line in a file), it must return true else false, i've added them in (return statements) but i still get the missing return error [14:54] inetpro: yeah Student enrollment project for varsity [14:54] zeref: Your logic is incorrect [14:56] zeref: what does "return" do, and what happens to a "return" inside a "for" loop? [14:57] oh :P, saw it [14:58] assign the boolean to a variable, break out of the loop and return it at the bottom [14:58] there is nothing forcing the loop to execute the code at least once [14:58] we know it does, but the compiler doesn't [14:59] superfly: extremely interesting article, still busy reading [15:10] bbl [15:18] zeref: coming right? [15:25] hmmm [15:26] i aasigned the boolean to a variable broke out the loop, now cannot find symbol, its a problem of local variable scope [15:26] *cannot find variable [15:27] Heh. [15:27] java dooes not have global varibales [15:27] :-( [15:28] zeref: you don't need global variables, they break logic. [15:28] zeref: you do, however, need an appropriately placed local variable [15:30] zeref: and this is not Java-specific. I could give you the exact same problem in C++, Python and Ruby, and the solution would be the same in all of them. [15:31] i see, reminds of an issue i had with python a while back :-) [15:33] zeref: pretend the loop doesn't exist, and I don't want the else in your if statement [15:36] zeref: do you follow me? [15:37] yep, working on it. [15:55] zeref: is it working yet? [15:58] lol no, i can feel that i'm missing somethig small [15:58] Pastebin the code [15:59] zeref: remember, they're not testing your Java skills, they're testing how you think [16:01] http://pastebin.com/bxVRKbun [16:02] i can feel i'm missing something small, myb need 5 min breka [16:07] zeref: what's the exact wording of the question? [16:09] zeref: i gotta go, my station is next. [18:12] good evening [18:51] evening everybody [18:51] quick coffee before bed [18:51] Maaz, coffee ob [18:51] Kilos: What? [18:52] Maaz, coffee on [18:52] * Maaz washes some mugs [18:52] not what? I bed your pardon you cheeky bot [18:53] yo nuvolari als goed daar ?? [18:54] en met julle superfly en inetpro [18:54] hi Kilos [18:55] alles goed, net besig [18:56] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [18:56] Maaz, ty [18:56] You are welcome Kilos [18:58] superfly: fixed needed to add provate static boolean result on top of the method [19:06] lo om Kilos [19:06] dit is maar net-net oom [19:06] wat nuvolari [19:07] o [19:07] haha is jy siek? [19:08] nee oom :P net aan die gang [19:08] gaan darm goed andersins [19:09] hiho Kilos [19:10] lo inetpro koud ne [19:10] hmm.... die koue kom nog [19:13] eish ek kry al klaar swaar [19:16] ja hy begin al byt, veral in die oggende [19:17] nie meer lekker op n bromponie nie [19:20] sleep tight guys. see you tomorrow night [19:20] Tonberry, meeting on the 21st hey? [19:21] 1930 [19:21] mmm [19:21] no time for beer evening [19:21] oh [19:21] ok [19:21] lol\ [19:21] Kerbero beer evening 21st @ 1930? [19:22] :P [19:22] lol [19:23] haha [19:23] Kerbero, dont listen to him [19:23] night oom Kilos [19:23] lekker slaap [19:23] night guys [19:23] jy ook dankie seun [19:23] dankie oom