[00:00] <harushimo> thank you
[00:00] <RealEyes> thanks
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Alec: I assume that it's a USB keyboard?
[00:00] <Alec> yes
[00:00] <lekremyelsew> fpz^2, I have to go, but thanks anyways
[00:00] <spuddogg> hello all
[00:00] <Alec> I have a p/s2 adapter (or however it's stylized) and it doesn't seem to work :S
[00:00] <decio_crytek> bryguy_: I tried every single terminal and GUI way to install it. Never works. I'm not going to install another Linux derivant simply because they don't have Wubi and I need windows to Jailbreak, Restore and put music onto my iPod Touch 4G and iPad 3
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Alec: I should have thought about that, if the kernel has problems accessing USB drives then the same problem will probably affect all USB devices :(
[00:01] <Alec> :S
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Alec: Do you happen to have a PS2 keyboard somewhere?
[00:01] <Alec> Nope :/
[00:01] <fpz^2> decio_crytek, run windows in a vm?
[00:01] <osmosis> how do I get rid of the sticky windows stickey mouse behavior? the edge of the screen always grabs my cursor when I am trying to go between screens, and when I am trying to drag windows across too.
[00:01] <Alec> I wish this adapter were working
[00:02] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, you dont need wubi to dual boot windows with a linux os
[00:02] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, i agree with fpz^2
[00:02] <decio_crytek> fpz^2, It can't Jailbreak in a Virtual Machine. And many of my Jailbreaks are tether. It would be a pain just to boot up my device
[00:02] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, you can try virtualbox to run windows
[00:03] <fpz^2> decio_crytek, virtualbox can hand over usb borts to the guest os.
[00:03] <fpz^2> *ports
[00:03] <bryguy_> i have been using ubuntu and it's variants on and off for over 5 years
[00:03] <fpz^2> that said, I never liked dealing with my iPod with ubuntu
[00:03] <decio_crytek> On a tether Jailbreak everytime you shut down you're device you'll have to go to your computer, run a program called RedSnow just to boot it up. Imagavine if I had to turn on a VM and do all that. It would take years!
[00:03] <harushimo> is there a restart option? I don't see it under my user name
[00:04] <fpz^2> decio_crytek, not really. you could use something like vagrant and automate it: http://vagrantup.com/
[00:04] <Jordan_U> Alec: What was the last version of Ubuntu that worked on this machine?
[00:04] <bryguy_> decio_crytek, are you a jailbreak dev or something? dont you just need to jailbreal the phone once and be doen with that part?
[00:04] <Alec> it was 11.04 I believe
[00:04] <decio_crytek> harushimo, click on the top right corner, than shut down. Than, it will say restart
[00:04] <Alec> I don't know how I got it to work though :/
[00:05] <harushimo> oh ok
[00:05] <bryguy_> harushimo, hit alt+f4 then type in user name, password, then sudo reboot
[00:05] <remlabm> hey all, i think my wirelesscard drivers are causing kernel panics, any idea how to solve?
[00:05] <harushimo> this is a little different from 10.04. It had a restart option
[00:05] <harushimo> thanks
[00:05] <decio_crytek> bryguy_, kindaa, I Jailbreak and write reviews of Cydia tweaks to earn some "pocket-money"
[00:06] <bryguy_> or just open up a terminal and type in the same thing
[00:06] <harushimo> i know you can do that way
[00:06] <bryguy_> sudo reboot
[00:06] <bttf> ok high level problem here
[00:06] <bryguy_> i dont know what Cydia is, i dotn iphone, i hack androids
[00:06] <bryguy_> *dont
[00:06] <bttf> my computer doesnt have a monitor
[00:06] <fpz^2> bryguy_, sudo shutdown -r now ;)
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Alec: As a stab in the dark, maybe the kernel modules needed for your controller are included by default, but not in the installer's initramfs. If that were the case, then you would be able to boot from an Ubuntu install on your internal drive and then load the USB modules from there (they would probably be loaded automatically).
[00:06] <bryguy_> nice fpz^2
[00:06] <bryguy_> didnt know that one
[00:07] <bttf> i want to put in a cd, and then find the computer by DHCP and SSH to complete the install
[00:07] <harushimo> me either
[00:07] <bttf> possible (y/n)
[00:07] <fpz^2> bryguy_, you can replace now with a number of seconds
[00:07] <tyler_d> bryguy_:  init 6
[00:07] <fpz^2> tyler_, :)
[00:07] <bttf> i've looked at unattended installs and some ssh installs which require PXE server, but i was wondering if there was something simpler than that
[00:07] <decio_crytek> bryguy_, let's just say that Jailbreaking is lot harder and hacking it is a chalenge
[00:07] <Alec> jordan
[00:07] <Alec> the converter gives power
[00:07] <bttf> i think i just need to edit some config files in the installation ill be good
[00:07] <Alec> but
[00:07] <bryguy_> so someone here says i can install another linux with virtualbox into an actual hdd partition and not just into the virtual partition that viirtual box creates for it
[00:07] <Alec> it won't let me type or anything
[00:07] <Alec> (tested with other backlit keyboard)
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Alec: Converter?
[00:08] <Alec> yes
[00:08] <Alec> a usb to ps2 converter
[00:08] <bryguy_> nice fpz^2 i am still a terminal noob for the most part
[00:08] <tyler__> fpz^2_: yes?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Alec: So you don't have any PS2 ports on your computer?
[00:08] <bryguy_> most my experience lies in copy/paste from google searches and trial and error over the past years
[00:08] <Alec> i do
[00:08] <Alec> ut
[00:08] <Alec> but*
[00:08] <fpz^2> bryguy_, I'm not sure. I tried once, failed. I also tried export a vbox image onto a harddrive and partition and failed
[00:08] <Alec> when I used the converter it only seems to provide poewr
[00:08] <bryguy_> i want to try mint debian xfce
[00:08] <Alec> it won't let me actually use hte keyboard
[00:09] <FloodBot1> Alec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <harushimo> i'm in the configuration settings for nvidia. I want to do big desktop. I mean to extend my desktop to the other monitor
[00:09] <bryguy_> thanks fpz^2
[00:09] <Alec> sorry
[00:09] <harushimo> how would I do that
[00:09] <fpz^2> vmware exports are apparently easier
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Alec: Do you have PS2 ports on your computer itself (i.e. not through a USB to PS2 converter)?
[00:09] <bryguy_> i cant find any blank dvds around fpz^2 so i need ot find an alternate way of installing it
[00:09] <Alec> yes
[00:09] <Alec> I mean i
[00:09] <bryguy_> the iso is 1.1 gb
[00:09] <decio_crytek> I'm out. I'll try to find some drivers that work on the Jailbreaking community. Yes, many of them do use Ubuntu as their main OS
[00:09] <bryguy_> and i only have cdr
[00:10] <bryguy_> good luck decio_crytek
[00:10] <Alec> Accidentally hit enter, yes I do have one, but I'm using a usb to ps2 converter (plug in the usb to it then plug that itno the ps2 slot) and it only seems to provide power, not the ability to actually use my keboard to type
[00:10] <Jordan_U> bryguy_: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Please take offtopic discussion elsewhere.
[00:10] <decio_crytek> Thanks
[00:10] <bryguy_> Jordan_U, i am trying to stay on topic
[00:10] <bryguy_> and i cant find anywhere else for people to help me
[00:11] <harushimo> i figured it out
[00:11] <SolarNRG> Excuse me, if you'll forgive me for being a little off topic, can someone who knows a little bit about molding with platinum cure please PM me or send me to a room where people might know
[00:11] <SolarNRG> Thank you
[00:11] <bryguy_> i am on precise, and my problem lies with tryign to get this doen from within precise
[00:11] <fpz^2> anyway. going for askubuntu now
[00:11] <fpz^2> adios
[00:11] <Jordan_U> !ot | SolarNRG
[00:11] <bryguy_> so i feel pretty well on topic
[00:11] <Jordan_U> bryguy_: The fact that you can't find anywhere else does *not* mean that you can ask offtopic questions here.
[00:12] <bryguy_> what part of my question defines "off-topic"?
[00:12] <tyler_d> didn't see the question bryguy_
[00:12] <Jordan_U> bryguy_: Your discussion of mint is off topic, even if it's not in the form of a question.
[00:13] <bryguy_> my discussion has very little to do with mint and very much so to do with how to install another OS to dual boot from within ubuntu
[00:13] <Jordan_U> Alec: If you have PS2 Ports on your computer, why are you not using them?
[00:14] <Alec> I am using them.  I plugged a keyboard into it via an adapter but it doesn't work for some reaosn.  It only seems to provide power to the keyboard (i.e backlight lights up, can't type though)
[00:14] <bryguy_> you probably need drivers Alec
[00:15] <Alec> for ps2 porrts?
[00:15] <wylde> Alec: you can't just plug in a ps2 keyboard when the computer is on. You shutdown, plug in and restart.
[00:15] <Jordan_U> Alec: I don't think you read my question carefully enough. This is the last time I'll ask. Does your computer itself, the box, have PS2 ports? (I'm *not* asking about USB to PS2 adaptors)
[00:15] <Alec> Yes, the pc has them.  my keyboard is usb so I'm using a converter to actually be able to use the ps2 ports on my computer.  And that is what i've been doing wylde.
[00:16] <Jordan_U> Alec: Ahh, I misunderstood then, Sorry about that.
[00:16] <wylde> Alec: alrighty, then. Just making sure. :)
[00:16] <Sidewinder> bryguy_, This site 'may' contain the info. that you're looking for; just stay away from anything "wubi": http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[00:17] <bryguy_> anyone know how to setup a dualboot with 1204 from wihtin an already operational 1204 box
[00:17] <bryguy_> ty Sidewinder
[00:17] <Sidewinder> bryguy_, My pleasure; I hope it helps. :)
[00:17] <Logan_> Why doesn't apport open Launchpad bug reports anymore?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> Alec: I've never seen an adaptor before that allows the use of a USB keyboard with a PS2 port. Does the keyboard work in the BIOS menus?
[00:18] <Alec> it used to work, I guess it's broken now
[00:18] <wylde> bryguy_: you can't. You have to have an alternate method of booting. Either a disk (CD/DVD) a usb thumb/pendrive/external hd or another computer on your netwrok that you can configure as a PXE boot server.
[00:20] <ms-daisy> hello. Has anyone used rsync over ssh to copy a .vdi file? Mine seems to be hanging after about a half-hour. Has it crapped out or is there still hope?
[00:20] <Alec> any other ideas?
[00:21] <harushimo> i'm just trying to mess around with cloud computing setup in ubuntu with open stack. do I need to install ubuntu server?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Logan_: could use the ubuntu-bug command
[00:21] <harushimo> can I use it on the desktop version?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Alec: do you use a USB hub by any chance?
[00:21] <Alec> nope
[00:21] <Alec> all plugged directly in.
[00:21] <Alec> I was using a cable extension for a bit
[00:22] <Alec> plugged directly in after that, same problem
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Alec: have you set the USB ports to legacy mode in BIOS?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> hemanth: you will want ubuntu cloud server
[00:22] <Alec> I'll check if I've done that already.  Where is that typically found in the bios?
[00:22] <harushimo> my goal is eventually use server. I just want to use MAAS and get a basic cloud setup
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Alec: I thought you just said that you can't use the keyboard in the BIOS either. Is that true? If so, how are you going to check/change any BIOS settings?
[00:23] <wylde> harushimo: you may get mnore specific help for that in #ubuntu-server
[00:23] <wylde> more*
[00:23] <Alec> Nono, I can use it in bios.
[00:23] <Alec> Just not with the ps2 adapter
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Alec: Ahh, understood.
[00:24] <harushimo> I'm on the website
[00:24] <harushimo> it is using ubuntu server not the desktop version
[00:24] <harushimo> ok I'll do that
[00:24] <Alec> sorry if i'm confusing you
[00:24] <wylde> I've only ever seen those for mice. Not seen one for keyboards.
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Alec: Can you take the drive out of the computer, put it in another machine, install Ubuntu to the hard drive, then put it back?
[00:24] <Alec> Nope.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Alec: What is currently installed on the internal drive?
[00:25] <Alec> Windows 7
[00:25] <Alec> oh wow
[00:25] <Alec> wait
[00:25] <Alec> "installer OS Select"
[00:25] <Alec> put to others?
[00:25] <Alec> it's at windows atm.
[00:25] <FloodBot1> Alec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <harushimo> i'll be honest with you. this has a mac feeling which is cool
[00:26] <harushimo> great job on the OS
[00:26] <Alec> I have a bad habit of flooding, I should really kill the urge to hit enter.
[00:26] <harushimo> I like how ubuntu is improving the quality and getting into everything
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Alec: Can you try a Wubi install as a test? I don't recommend using Wubi but it would test the possibility that the needed modules exist but simply aren't in the default initrd.
[00:26] <Alec> sure
[00:27] <wylde> Alec: glue a tac strip to it :) You'll learn fast to look at it before hitting it :)
[00:27] <Alec> want me to try the legacy usb thing ifirst?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Alec: It can't hurt, but I don't expect it to make any difference.
[00:27] <Alec> legacy usb support is apparently already enabled :/
[00:29] <Alec> Guys
[00:29] <Alec> I FIXED IT!
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Alec: If you have any questions/updates please use my nick as I won't be watching the channel.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Alec: How?
[00:29] <Alec> You know that installer os select thing I said earlier?
[00:29] <Alec> I changed it to others and BAM, it started!
[00:30] <Tm0> Hey my sources.list file is riddled with errors, but it looks good to me, if I post it could someone tell me where my errors lie?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Alec: Ubuntu is now booting with ability to access USB devices?
[00:31] <Alec> yes xD
[00:31] <Alec> and
[00:31] <Alec> no initramfs (waits a bit so i'm not flooding.. accidentally hit enter:()
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Alec: Very odd, I've never heard of this type of thing before. I'm glad you got things working though :)
[00:32] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[00:32] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[00:32] <CrazyGangster> http://i46.tinypic.com/2i9nvwm.png
[00:32] <Alec> thanks a lot Jordan and friends ;3 (I don't know why and friends, but you know, it seems the best way to put it as it's hard to list all the other names) I'll stay in here incase other problems arise.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Alec: You're welcome.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: take a full backup, then you have no worries about losing data
[00:34] <Logan_> ActionParsnip: Yeah, ubuntu-bug works, but I'm wondering why crash reporting is going to whoopsie by default, without the option of sending the bug to Launchpad.
[00:34] <Tm0> Hey my sources.list file is riddled with errors, but it looks good to me, if I post it could someone tell me where my errors lie?
[00:34] <andersongraciane> ola
[00:34] <Brustofski-Fan> Gdebi is being stupid !! It's telling me my password is wrong!!
[00:34] <andersongraciane> hello
[00:35] <CrazyGangster> i already done that...
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc   please
[00:35] <andersongraciane> ola
[00:35] <bryguy_> wylde, how do i use another laptop on my netwpork running windows 7 to be a boot server
[00:35] <bryguy_> ?
[00:35] <Alec> Hehe, so glad to finally get rid of my terrible Windows 7 install.  I mean, I like it, it's just so slow compared to Ubuntu.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Tm0: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[00:36] <CrazyGangster> ActionParsnip: lisa
[00:36] <krababbel> bryguy_: you need to setup a tftp server
[00:36] <osmosis> how do I get rid of the sticky windows stickey mouse behavior? the edge of the screen always grabs my cursor when I am trying to go between screens, and when I am trying to drag windows across too.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: not supported here dude
[00:36] <wylde> bryguy_: good question. I've only ever used a 8nix machine for that. You caould ask in #windows if it's possible.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: mint has it's own support
[00:36] <wylde> *nix
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> !mint | CrazyGangster
[00:37] <CrazyGangster> ok i will reboot and start my ubuntu ok?
[00:39] <Tm0> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/986410/ is the errors (start from line 21)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Tm0
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Tm0: that command will be a good start
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Tm0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986412/    will then help some
[00:41] <pp7> how are video file thumbnails generated in ubuntu? sometimes they are generated, sometimes they are not for me
[00:41] <Brustofski-Fan> Anyone have a clue on this.. Trying to install virtualbox from the vbox web site package.. And Gdebi is telling me my password is not right..
[00:42] <Tm0> ActionParsnip The first one didn't fix any, attempting the others now
[00:42] <bryguy_> im just going to use an ipod as a mass storage usb device, copy the iso file onto that, and try and reboot into the os' installation
[00:42] <wylde> Brustofski-Fan: can you use sudo without it complaining about your password?
[00:42] <Tm0> ActionParsnip Am I supposed to make that into a shell file?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: did you add the virtualbox ppa?
[00:42] <krababbel> Brustofski-Fan: do you really have a reason not to use the version officially supported?
[00:43] <zykotic10> Tm0: your missing the key for your Mate repo.  Duplicate sources are just warnings (you have the same thing more then once in sources.list or sources.list.d)
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Tm0: you can make a script (which is what you probably meant), or you can just copy and paste them one by one
[00:43] <Brustofski-Fan> krababbel, yes.. never works for me
[00:43] <krababbel> so no
[00:44] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, no.. i downloaded the deb package from the vbox site
[00:44] <zykotic10> Tm0: also, ubuntu has been designed around using sudo... just sayin'
[00:44] <lansared> help me plz, how can i convert 3 avi files into one file plz?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: using the PPA will make things a OT easier for you
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> *lot
[00:44] <Brustofski-Fan> wylde, how do i install the package cli.. from my home folder
[00:45] <wylde> Brustofski-Fan: 'sudo dpkg -i <packagename>'
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[00:46] <wylde> I still say pastebinit should be included in ubuntu proper as a support tool ......
[00:46] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, as root or user
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: either
[00:46] <Brustofski-Fan> precise
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list; wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.1
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: also, using the PPA will mean your software will get updated
[00:47] <pingveno> I'm trying to get lxc-execute work with "lxc-execute -n test-ubuntu /bin/bash". I'm getting the error "No such file or directory - failed to exec /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init"
[00:47] <wylde> ^^
[00:47] <pingveno> /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init exists and is executable on the host system.
[00:48] <Tm0> zykotic10 you wouldn't happen to part of the Ubuntu-CA UUG would you?
[00:48] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, i know the one from the vbox website in 4.1.14.. when in the repo is 4.1.12
[00:48] <zykotic10> Tm0: at one point i was active yes - not anymore
[00:48] <lansared> help me plz, how can i convert 3 avi files into one file plz? coz i have a film into 3 files, 1 , 2 ,and 3 is there a way to convert them to one file?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Brustofski-Fan: in the vbox repo is later than the deb file they give on the site? Really?
[00:49] <krababbel> Brustofski-Fan: what is the error with vbox?
[00:50] <Tm0> zykotic10 Your name just seemed familiar.
[00:50] <mercedes> i cant install apps on software center i am in lbuntu 11.4 now
[00:50] <lansared> ActionParsnip: help me plz, how can i convert 3 avi files into one file plz? coz i have a film into 3 files, 1 , 2 ,and 3 is there a way to convert them to one file?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> lansared: mencoder infile1.avi infile2.avi -o final-output.avi -ovc copy -oac copy
[00:51] <wylde> !patience | lansared
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> lansared: don't target people like that, If I know I will reply
[00:51] <Alec> perfect installation;3
[00:52] <Alec> thanks guys!
[00:52] <Alec> seeya.
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> lansared: source: http://www.pinoygeek.org/2008/05/25/how-to-join-avi-files-in-ubuntu/
[00:52] <lansared> ActionParsnip:  thanx friend, but i have visits in my house and i want to do this urgent
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> lansared: here is all I used: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+3+avi+files+cat&kp=1
[00:54] <lansared> ActionParsnip:  i try friend
[00:54] <ray40> My system won't shutdown and gives debugfs is busy error when trying to umount /. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[00:55] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: nice to see someone sending ddg links instead of google :)
[00:55] <mercedes> help with the software center i cant install apps
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> ray40: have you fsck'd your system partition?
[00:55] <Brustofski-Fan> Krabbe, i don't know anymore... it would start onece then the next time as soon as the OS would start.. it would give all kinds of errors that no one could figure out... Thats why i been useing this one!!
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: its what I use most now, the bang syntax leaves google for dust
[00:55] <ray40> Action: No. Just installed the system.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: and the keyboard shortcuts too
[00:55] <Brustofski-Fan> ActionParsnip, here's the version from virualbox web site...   virtualbox-4.1_4.1.14-77440~Ubuntu~precise_amd64.deb
[00:55] <SaNFouR> hi
[00:56] <krababbel> Brustofski-Fan: you could also ask in #vbox why their package isn't working
[00:57] <KM0201> lansared: if that doesn't work, here's how I always do it(just did it today).. post #3    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337234
[00:58] <Brustofski-Fan> there's is... it's the repo package that don't work for me
[00:58] <dme9> anyone develop .NET under linux?
[00:59] <lansared> KM0201:  thanx friend i try
[01:00] <carl0s-> Can I just say: this window management is rubbish. I have disappearing applications. i.e. they do not show up in the alt-tab switcher, or on the unity dock/bar thing. It's hopeless. The latest offender is GIMP. I also have issues with Remmina not going full screen when told to.
[01:00] <endra> What's the built-in backup system called? I'm trying to find online documentation but it always takes me to sbackup instead of the built-in one
[01:00] <wylde> dme9:  /msg alis list *ubuntu-dev*   <--- ;)
[01:03] <wylde> endra: you know, I don't actually recall. I use my own scripts for backing up. Moment....
[01:03] <Hebram> endra: I believe it is Deja Dup
[01:03] <vexati0n> how do i force Xorg to use nouveau driver in 12.04?
[01:03] <vexati0n> If i specify it in xorg.conf, lightdm won't start
[01:03] <wylde> Hebram:  that's it!
[01:04] <endra> wylde, Hebram: thanks, that's it it seems!
[01:04] <Hebram> =)
[01:04] <Blackshirt> Hello
[01:04] <ray40> The other system issue I'm having is a modeprobe timeout message that keeps appearing in my syslog. How do I figure out which device it's timing out on?
[01:05] <Ripper_Head> Hola
[01:05] <Blackshirt> Ray40 what module modprobe trying to load?
[01:05] <Ripper_Head> Alguien me lee??
[01:05] <ray40> Blackshirt: I don't know. It gives a pci string.
[01:06] <remlabm> hey guys, i really could use some help, not trying to sound desperate, im fairly certain my wifi card is causing kernel panics. so i keep getting kicked out of this room. my card is Netgear wn311b. can anyone please point me to a direction on how i can fix this?
[01:06] <wylde> !es | Ripper_Head
[01:06] <ray40> Blackshirt: "pci:v000010DEd00000BE3sv00000000sd00000000bc04sc03i00"
[01:06] <Blackshirt> Ray40' look with lspci maybe help you
[01:07] <Ripper_Head> Exit
[01:07] <Blackshirt> Remlabm, try to disable this netgear module
[01:07] <chuddlysquishyon> anyone else use krita?
[01:07] <ray40> Blackshirt: I've looked there but 'lspci' doesn't list anything that looks like that pci number.
[01:08] <remlabm> not sure what you mean blackshirt
[01:08] <mrtc> so I made a change a long time ago in 11.10 to have a python web server start on boot, but I forget how I did it. Is there a way to see how a process was started?
[01:09] <mosno> is it a bad idea to have a separate / and /home?
[01:10] <Guest14122> ie. with upcoming changes... specifically filesystem snapshotting, etc.
[01:10] <L3top> Guest14122: No... it is a very good idea
[01:10] <Guest14122> L3top, i thought so.
[01:10] <Guest14122> L3top, thanks
[01:11] <Areckx> Succesful reinstall of 10.04 LTS and couldn't be happier!
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Guest14122: If you're only going to be using Ubuntu then I disagree, I don't see any point in having a separate /home and it means that you'll have to repartition if you decide that you didn't get the balance in size between / and /home right.
[01:12] <endra> If I open terminal, and hit ctrl-w, it makes my monitors blink black. That effect is really annoying and I want to disable it completely for all apps. It occurs if I try to delete nothing, hit down arrow, hit right arrow at the right-most character, etc.
[01:13] <Areckx> Jordan_U,  Maybe they want to keep their /home directory safe in case of data corruption in the main partition??
[01:13] <nownot> what is the best way to make a blu ray iso already having the bdmv folder?
[01:13] <nownot> believe its udf2.5?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> Areckx: It's rare to get data corruption which is not caused by hardware problems, in which case separate partitions won't matter. And you could extend that logic to make every type of data you have be stored on separate partitions, but the small advantage is not worth the hassle of resizing partitions (a somewhat dangerous operation) when you find that you need more room on one of them. And that's what backups are for anyway.
[01:16] <ceed^> In earlier versions of Ubuntu there was a graphical application for controlling running services. I can't find it in 12.04. Can someone tell me where it is, or if I need to install it?
[01:16] <zykotic10> ceed^: it doesn't exist anymore.  ubuntu users aren't expected to be running services i guess.
[01:17] <ceed^> zykotic10: I can't get it from somewhere and install it either?
[01:18] <zykotic10> ceed^: upstart is the issues - the old tools don't apply.
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> ceed^: could use top
[01:19] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: how does top help with startup services?
[01:20] <arejay> what vps software do you guys recommend for ubuntu 12.04?
[01:20] <Indian> hello
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: "for controlling running services"
[01:22] <Indian> Any suggestions on enabling some shortcuts to see all open windows
[01:22] <CrazyGangster> my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[01:22] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[01:23] <CrazyGangster> im in ubuntu now...
[01:23] <L3top> Jordan_U: I have come to the conclusion that you are certainly more clever than I with regards to all of this, but the reason for my suggestion that it was a good thing, was that regardless of what you do to the root file system your personal data will be untouched. I have lurked in this channel a while before offering advice and this was often the conventional wisdom.
[01:24] <L3top> At least when I was paying attention.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> Indian: use the scale plugin in compiz if you use compiz
[01:24] <Jordan_U> L3top: What would you do to the root filesystem that would affect your data without a separate partition, but wouldn't also affect it with?
[01:25] <Indian> any one using hotot
[01:25] <zykotic10> L3top: i'm with Jordan_U - a separate home has minimal benefit with some real drawbacks (but, i consider that a personal opinion - even if it's shared)
[01:26] <zykotic10> L3top: that said, i do currently have a separate home, with / on an ssd ;)  so i should just shut my mouth/fingers.
[01:27] <L3top> !warning 2 weeks in, as root, attempting to delete the contents of a current directory I did rm -R /* attempting to rm -R ./* because I was very green, clearly, and /home being somewhere else would have saved that. I am not suggesting that my advice was correct btw, I am simply asking why it is incorrect.
[01:27] <L3top> !danger
[01:29]  * KM0201 has never had a separate /home in 7yrs
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: makes reinstalls easier and backups too
[01:30] <L3top> I still don't. It was just suggestion that I heard in this room, and applied to my own ignorance and felt had merrit. I am simply asking why it is NOT good advice, not arguing that it is.
[01:31] <Indian> I cannot see any notifications for hotot
[01:31] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: i agree with reinstalling the same version, but after any ubuntu-version upgrades - it can lead to issues.  backup of /home i see no difference if it's on the same partition or not YMMV ;)
[01:32] <wylde> I run a separate /home too. I do keep regular backups, but if I don't have to restore from backups that = time saved recovering.
[01:33] <invinciblemutant> my gnome-shell corrupts sudden by itself
[01:33] <invinciblemutant> running gnome-shell in terminal (pressing Ctrl-T) to call out, runs into segmentation fault
[01:34] <invinciblemutant> how to rescue gnome-shell running into segmentation fault
[01:34] <wylde> invinciblemutant: I'd suggest you test your RAM, and fsck your hard disk to start.
[01:35] <invinciblemutant> now, i dont see title bar, no top panel
[01:35] <invinciblemutant> i am using the same machine on irc
[01:35] <invinciblemutant> gnome-shell does not start
[01:36] <L3top> zykotic10: wouldn't that require constant backups? Going two weeks without a backup, depending on what you do, could be dangerous... wheras if your home dir is always independant, it stands to reason that you are spending a lot more time backing up, dealing with backing up.
[01:36] <rypervenche> L3top: I run backups everyday.
[01:37] <L3top> I am not trying to be off topic, and am in off topic if someone would like to explain it to me.
[01:37] <zykotic10> L3top: how does a separate home affect backup scheduling?
[01:37] <rypervenche> Doesn't. I use LVM.
[01:38] <L3top> It makes such irrelevant, if your would be backup location is the location of home
[01:38] <rypervenche> To offtopic then?
[01:38] <L3top> yes
[01:38] <invinciblemutant> anyway to debug what is the cause of gnome-shell fault
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: its good for SSD too, keep /home off the SSD where speed isn't hugely required :)
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: /home on platter based drive
[01:40] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: that's is my current "use case" for a separate home ;)
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> zykotic10: yeah it rocks
[01:40] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: SSDs - highly agree
[01:40] <remlabm> ActionParsnip: welcome back, im still having that issue with kernel panic
[01:41] <remlabm> Posted a thread since i keep loosing my connection : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11933446#post11933446
[01:42] <Indian> hello is there a way to get menulets downloaded
[01:42] <Indian> like the one on top right corner
[01:46] <netnomad> installing 12.04 on a laptop.  pray for my soul.  :)
[01:46] <KM0201> netmind: lol, its not bad... :)
[01:47] <netnomad> I had bad luck with the last stable.
[01:47] <netnomad> Hoping this works better.
[01:47] <KM0201> netmind: better than what?
[01:47] <KM0201> netnomad: better than what?
[01:47] <netnomad> Better than the last stable that wouldn't boot.  :)
[01:47] <KM0201> lol
[01:47] <KM0201> why wouldn't it boot?
[01:48] <netnomad> Hell if I know.  I'm fairly new to the Linux community.
[01:48] <netnomad> I'm in the experimentation and learning phase.  lol
[01:48] <KM0201> ah, well, if you have another PC other than the one you're installing on, and it won't boot, come here on that computer, and we can try things on the machine you're trying to install on to figure out why it won't boot
[01:48] <netnomad> I am on the other one at this time.  :)
[01:48] <KM0201> ah, so thats one problem down
[01:49] <netnomad> Nope.  We just got to the "ok, eject the CD" stage.
[01:50] <zykotic10> netnomad: no such thing as "ubuntu stable" just sayin'
[01:50] <Indian> so anyone please tell if I can add icons on top right corner
[01:50] <KM0201> Indian: not that i know of.
[01:50] <netnomad> Purple screen.  This is encouraging.
[01:51] <Indian> KM0201, How does dropbox and some other apps add them
[01:51] <KM0201> cuz they are written to have icons in notification area.
[01:51] <ceed^> Annoying: The caption for the home button in Unity covers the search field unless you move the cursor off the button. I wish the caption would auto close after a second or so.
[01:52] <netnomad> No boot.  The screen changed to the Ubuntu purple, but no title appeared and the drive has stopped accessing.
[01:52] <y0om4> hi
[01:52] <subhadip> hey
[01:53] <zykotic10> !nomodeset | netnomad
[01:53] <KM0201> netnomad: ok, do that first.
[01:53] <netnomad> Roger.
[01:53] <KM0201> you can also "no splash"  and it will remove the ubuntu graphic, and possibly show the problem (i'm predicting since its a laptop, a broadcom problem)
[01:54] <y0om4> can someone please telnet to pool-96-247-126-46.lsanca.fios.verizon.net  port 113 to see if my identd is connectable?
[01:54] <KM0201> y0om4: i'm not sure i'd put information like that in a channel w/ 1527 strangers
[01:55] <y0om4> it is oaky
[01:55] <y0om4> i aint got anything to hide
[01:56] <netnomad> "Gave up waiting for root device"
[01:56] <netnomad> Dumped to busybox.
[01:56] <zykotic10> netnomad: do you use RAID?
[01:56] <netnomad> No.
[01:56] <netnomad> Only on insects.
[01:56] <netnomad> (rimshot)
[01:57] <escott> netnomad, what kind of device is your / partition on
[01:57] <netnomad> It's an Acer laptop.
[01:58] <Icehawk> I'm in a bit of an odd situation. I've got a wireless card that is connected to my wireless network, but is unable to connect to the router (ie at http://192.168.1.1) and thus can't load any websites or whatnot. However, it's been assigned an IP via DHCP and on my router I can see that it's connected.
[01:58] <rypervenche> Icehawk: What is its IP address?
[01:59] <Icehawk> rypervenche: 192.168.1.100
[01:59] <rypervenche> Icehawk: Are you sure that 192.168.1.1 is the gateway's address?
[01:59] <Icehawk> And yes, I verified that all of the DHCP'd settings match my other laptop (also running Ubuntu, and also connected to the same network)
[02:00] <mykrobinson> Having issues with my desktop. Got no sound in 12.04, but it worked in 11.10. Its Realtek ALC662 rev 1
[02:00] <rypervenche> Icehawk: Type "sudo route -n | grep ^0"
[02:00] <mykrobinson> little help?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> y0om4: no connection dude
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: then try the web
[02:01] <invinciblemutant> how to reset gnome-shell setting
[02:01] <Icehawk> rypervenche: Shows wlan1 and eth1, both with 0.0.0.0   192.168.1.1  0.0.0.0  UG  0  0  0  [adapter_name]
[02:01] <invinciblemutant> how to clear all settings, i think my personal gnome-shell settings has corrupt
[02:02] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Eww, Google :(
[02:02] <krababbel> Icehawk: can you ping 192.168.1.1
[02:02] <Icehawk> krababbel: Nope, "Destination Host Unreachable"
[02:03] <krababbel> that's bad, dns isn't your problem
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: its easy to remember and will get the OS upgraded, may fix the bug
[02:04] <rypervenche> ....ewww Google.
[02:05] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip / rypervenche: Also using Google DNS didn't fix it.
[02:05] <Blackshirt> Icehawk, are you sure your lan cable connected correctly
[02:05] <Icehawk> Blackshirt: Wifi
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[02:05] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Apparently... no.
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: can you ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[02:06] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: No.
[02:06] <alphanoop> Icehawk: does ifconfing wlan0  show an IP?
[02:06] <Icehawk> But somehow DHCP still assigned me a valid IP
[02:06] <Random832> can you ping 255.255.255.255
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: does the interface have an IP address?
[02:06] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Yes. 192.168.1.100
[02:07] <Areckx> How can I edit GRUB to allow a dual boot of debian?
[02:07] <netnomad> KM0201, Interesting.  I did a recovery mode boot, and we made it to the login screen.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: if you run: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1       does it then work?
[02:08] <Icehawk> Random832: No. (Had to do ping -b 255.255.255.255, and that had 100% packet loss)
[02:08] <L3top> Areckx: I would expect grub-install; update-grub would just do what you want with both OSes installed, but am not positive.
[02:09] <subhadip> What is the People Nearby account in my Empathy? How to use it?
[02:09] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Did that, still getting Destination Host Unreachable on any IP (192.168.1.1/8.8.8.8/etc) that I try, as well as no web pages loading
[02:09] <Random832> subhadip: have other people that use bonjour instant messaging
[02:09] <Random832> bonjour is apple's name for it, generic is zeroconf i think
[02:09] <Random832> it's an ichat thing originally
[02:11] <krababbel> Icehawk: what does 'ip addr' give?
[02:11] <subhadip> ok thanks
[02:11] <ztag100> anyone use system76?
[02:12] <princethakur> can any buddy tell me chatting sofware for ubuntu 12.04
[02:13] <rypervenche> princethakur: What kind of chatting?
[02:13] <renode> irc?
[02:13] <dme9> PIDGIN
[02:13] <renode> XCHAT
[02:13] <Icehawk> krababbel: Shows an lo, eth1 and wlan1 devices. wlan1 has an ip of 192.168.1.100 set
[02:13] <rypervenche> princethakur: Pidgin for most chatting protocols.
[02:14] <princethakur> rypervenche: like yahoo messenger ? any software having rooms etc
[02:14] <krababbel> Icehawk: can you try eth0?
[02:15] <Icehawk> krababbel: I assume you mean eth1, since I don't have an eth0 interface. And I've used ethernet before successfully. Just not wifi.
[02:15] <krababbel> Icehawk: can you try a static config instead of dhcp?
[02:16] <krababbel> I guess you should check the hardware of gateway config
[02:16] <Icehawk> krababbel: I initially tried to do a static IP, and was never able to actually connect to the network with that, for some reason.
[02:17] <nrdb> is 12.04 a LTS version?
[02:17] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yes.
[02:18] <nrdb> I have a 10.04 and "update manager" is set to notify on "Long term support releases only" ... but its not notifying atm.
[02:19] <wylde> nrdb: it won't until the point release in July.
[02:20] <Basstard`> That's nice.
[02:20] <nrdb> oh!  not what I expected.   but ok.
[02:21] <netnomad> Interesting.  it seems to only boot in recovery mode.  :\
[02:22] <nrdb> Icehawk, by connect to the network - do you mean internet?
[02:23] <Icehawk> nrdb: Both internal network and external internet, yes.
[02:24] <nrdb> Icehawk, do you want help with that?
[02:25] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yes :)
[02:25] <freshone0> hi just installed ubuntu 11.10 want to change the color of the folders they all appear orange how to change them?
[02:25] <nrdb> Icehawk, what appears to be the problem and what are you trying to do?
[02:26] <freshone0> pls help how does one change color of icons on the desktop?
[02:27] <Icehawk> nrdb: I've got a wireless card that is able to connect to the wireless network and is assigned a valid IP by DHCP, but cannot appear to reach anything else (to the point where I can't even ping the gateway at 192.168.1.1 or the google DNS at 8.8.8.8)
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> freshone0: use myunity and you can set the theme there
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: get a wired connection and get updated that way, may help
[02:28] <Icehawk> Huh. I noticed when I ran `arp` on the machine with an issue, the 'HWtype' field is blank, and the 'HWaddress' shows as "incomplete"
[02:28] <freshone0> how does one use myunity?
[02:28] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: I just was earlier. Fully up to date on all packages.
[02:28] <freshone0> pls give grapghical
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> freshone0: install it from software centre and run it from dash
[02:28] <invincib1emutant> how to deal with gnome-shell segmentation fault
[02:28] <freshone0> ok
[02:28] <freshone0> thanks
[02:28] <invincib1emutant> i am geting gnome-shell segmentation fault during startup
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: what wifi chip is it?
[02:29] <zach_> quit
[02:29] <invincib1emutant> how to reset all my gnome-shell settings
[02:30] <nrdb> Icehawk, ip 8.8.8.8 doesn't appear to be google.com ... can you ping the ip of the wireless card?
[02:30] <zykotic10> nrdb: 8.8.8.8 is google's DNS server address, or one of them
[02:30] <Icehawk> nrdb: You mean the IP it was assigned via DHCP? (192.168.1.100)
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns service
[02:31]  * nrdb yes I got that on the second read.
[02:31] <Icehawk> Pinging my assigned IP works.
[02:31] <veebull> I'm wanting to set up a virtual LAN using Virtual Box running on my Ubuntu desktop... I want one guest vm to act as a 'gateway' with one network adapter connected via NAT, and the other connected statically to an internal network.  Should work... but all the networking guides I seem to be coming across talk about making eth0 (outward facing) use a static IP
[02:31] <veebull> will it b0rk things if its on dhcp instead?
[02:31] <xxeennaa> hi! how do I install the nvidia drivers for my geforce 9400m gpu in backtrack 5?
[02:32] <nrdb> Icehawk, good!   do you know the ip of the router or another computer on the network?
[02:32] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: I forget how to check from the command line, but according to a search, it appears to be Atheros AR9271 Rev:1
[02:32] <zykotic10> !backtrack | xxeennaa
[02:32] <invincib1emutant> sos, how to correct gnome-shell segmentation fault
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[02:32] <xxeennaa> zykotic10: hi! i'm already in backtrack-linux, but unable to type :<
[02:32] <invincib1emutant> i am getting segmentation fault during system startup...
[02:33] <ms-daisy> Hello. I need to back up my /home directory to a second internal hard drive that is formatted FAT 32 with no operating system. What's the best method to move/copy the files to the second hard drive?
[02:33] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yeah, the router is 192.168.1.1; That gives me "Destination Host Unreachable" errors when I attempt to ping
[02:33] <invincib1emutant> gnome-shell --replace also complains segmentation fault
[02:33] <krababbel_> veebull: should work
[02:33] <invincib1emutant> anyone here could please help me on this issue
[02:33] <zykotic10> ms-daisy: that's going to desktop all ownership/permissions...
[02:33] <zykotic10> s/desktop/destroy/
[02:33] <ms-daisy> xxeennaa: you probably need to register
[02:33] <xxeennaa> zykotic10: maybe you could help me out anyway? :>
[02:33] <xxeennaa> ms-daisy: i know!
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> ms-daisy: i'd use rsync, files larger than 4Gb may make the copy fail
[02:34] <veebull> krababbel_, cool
[02:34] <Gnea> !ppa
[02:34] <nrdb> Icehawk, are you using Network Manager to setup the wi-fi?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> xxeennaa: backtrack isnt supported by the ubuntu community, it has its own channel and forums
[02:34] <ms-daisy> Rsync needs to be isntalled on both the source & destination. The second hard drive is strictly for data- it has no OS. ActionParsnip
[02:34] <xxeennaa> ActionParsnip: really?! :>
[02:34] <netnomad> ALERT!  /dev/desk/by-uuid/3da<blah blah blah> does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> xxeennaa: really
[02:34] <Gnea> !backtrack > xxeennaa
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> xxeennaa: #backtrack-linux is where your distro is supported
[02:35] <Icehawk> nrdb: I've tried both Network Manager and /etc/network/interfaces; Network Manager was the only one which was at least able to connect to the network.
[02:35] <ms-daisy> zykotic10: copying files to a second hard drive will destroy ownership/permissions?  What do you recommend then?
[02:36] <xxeennaa> ActionParsnip: rreeaallllyy??!!
[02:36] <zykotic10> ms-daisy: it's the fact you're copying to FAT that is responisble for that
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> xxeennaa: as I said earlier...yes, really
[02:36] <Gnea> xxeennaa: enough.
[02:36] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: The driver my card says it's using is 'rtl8192cu'; Nothing further about the chipset was shown.
[02:36] <xxeennaa> Gnea: no.
[02:36]  * netnomad sprays troll-be-gone aerosol spray<tm>.
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> xxeennaa: just as ubuntu is based on debian, if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian, you will be pointed here
[02:37] <zykotic10> ms-daisy: i'd recommend you use gnu/linux native filesystems, rather then MS crap
[02:37] <nrdb> Icehawk, I presume that you that the ipv4 settings is set to DHCP?
[02:37] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yep. I tried setting a static IP and it was unable to connect afterwards.
[02:37] <Ethek> Hello
[02:37] <ms-daisy> zykotic10: I had hoped to use the drive to store data from both windows and ubuntu files. Is there an option that would make that possible?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you get any output?
[02:38] <zykotic10> ms-daisy: FAT's probably your best bet then.  (ps i'm adding you to my /ignore list)
[02:38] <Ethek> Ubuntu software center fails on launch, any idea how I can troubleshoot it?
[02:38] <xxeennaa> does anyone know how i install my nvidia geforce 9400m gpu drivers in ubuntu? hehehe
[02:38] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Yes. [63.406767] rtl8192c_common: Loading firmware file rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin
[02:39] <nrdb> Icehawk, have you any other computers you could ping?  ... other than the router
[02:39] <Gnea> !nvidia | xxeennaa
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: ok thats cool
[02:39] <william0> Cannot join #chrome (Requires keyword)
[02:39] <william0> what does it mean?
[02:39] <william0> Cannot join #chrome (Requires keyword)
[02:39] <Icehawk> nrdb: Sure, the one I'm on right now. Let me try, but I'm pretty sure that gave a "host unreachable" too
[02:39] <Gnea> william0: try ##chrome
[02:40] <y0om4> when using port forwarding or triggering, I set source port any to 6667, and destination port any to 113 ... How come I set it to any instead of 6667 to 6667 and 113 to 113? How come it will not work if i do the latter?
[02:40]  * nrdb off course 
[02:40] <ms-daisy> !backup
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: seems to use ndiswrapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link
[02:41] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, if Icehawk is get setup by DHCP wouldn't that mean at some packet are getting out.
[02:41] <william0> Gnea:   there does not have  ##chrome
[02:41] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yep, tried to ping this computer, got 'Destination Host Unreachable'
[02:41] <william0> not exist
[02:41] <Icehawk> Same for two other computers on the network which this computer was able to ping
[02:41] <Gnea> william0: then #chromium
[02:42] <nrdb> Icehawk, does "iptables -L" show a firewall setup?
[02:42] <ms-daisy> !sbackup
[02:42] <william0> Gnea:  cool ~ that is it!
[02:42] <william0> tkx
[02:42] <Gnea> william0: cheers
[02:42] <william0> :)
[02:42] <truongap> I was using use usb to boot ubuntu 12.04 but after splash boot it requred username and password. Anybody know?
[02:43] <Gnea> truongap: whatever you set username/password to be
[02:43] <invincib1emutant> i am getting this message in dmseg: [  111.569592] gnome-shell[3056]: segfault at 21 ip 00000021 sp bf8fd47c error 14 in gnome-shell[8048000+2000]
[02:43] <Ethek> .
[02:43] <Ethek> ,
[02:43] <invincib1emutant> anyone here could please tell what can i rectify the problem
[02:44] <invincib1emutant> gnome-shell does not start
[02:44] <zykotic10> truongap: try "ubuntu" as username and no password
[02:44] <Icehawk> nrdb: Um... not entirely familiar, offhand, with how to read this. `sudo iptables -L` returned what appears to be maybe 4 or 5 lines, through 3 of those seem to be preceded by '(policy ACCEPT)' lines?
[02:44] <ms-daisy> Wow zykotic10 I would say thanks except you're ignoring me. That was unbelievably rude :s
[02:44] <Icehawk> 4 lines starting with 'Chain'
[02:45] <nrdb> Icehawk, doesn't appear any firewall is setup then.
[02:45] <Icehawk> nrdb: Not as far as I'm able to read this, at least.
[02:45] <nrdb> Icehawk, can you post the output of "ifconfig" and "route -n"
[02:46] <sacarlson> I'm getting Segmentation fault from freeradius when I do a radtest  on ubuntu 10.04 with both freeradius 2.1.12 from ppa and the stable release 2.1.8,  do I have to compile to get a stable version of freeradius to work?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> truongap: press CTRL+ALT+F1  and run:  passwd ubuntu     set the password then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in with the credentials
[02:46] <nrdb> Icehawk, I mead paste
[02:46] <y0om4> when using port triggering, I set source port any to 6667, and destination port any to 113 ... How come I set it to any instead of 6667 to 6667 and 113 to 113? How come it will not work if i do the latter?
[02:46] <Icehawk> nrdb: I'll have to recreate it by hand, but sure, give me a few minutes.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: possibly, it's gonna get messy and hard to investigate
[02:47] <Icehawk> nrdb: Is just the wlan1 interface enough, or do you need all 3? (lo, eth1 and wlan1)?
[02:47] <Gyro54> Hi!
[02:47] <sacarlson> I originaly thought that my freeradius problem was the ipv6 problem but I also tried with a ipv4 127.0.0.1 with it still segment faulting out
[02:47] <nrdb> Icehawk, you can use "<shift> <ctrl> C" to cut from a terminal
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: if you get a wired connection and install wicd, does it help?
[02:47] <Icehawk> nrdb: That's not the issue - the computer I'm pasting from isn't online ;)
[02:48] <none>  on a new install of ubuntu 12.04... i am getting out of range and unable to use my computer
[02:48] <none> this is pretty much worst case senario ever for me
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> none: what GPU do you use?
[02:48] <invincib1emutant> running gnome-shell in other account works, just mine isnt, how can i reset everything
[02:48] <wordToDaBird> I recently upgraded ubuntu to the most recent upgrade, in the process something got borked.  when i started ubuntu back up grub didn't actually load ubuntu after doing googling I came acoss update-initramfs which works.  I can start ubuntu now, but the keyboard doesn't work.  Been googling about this, but not sure what to look for can someone point me in the right direction please.
[02:48] <none> i use 7600gs
[02:48] <none> with dvi to agp converter
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> none: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> none: you can't get a dvi to agp converter
[02:48] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Haven't tried that, yet. It's a desktop, so that'll also take a few minutes ;)
[02:49] <none> what boot option? my montor shows nothing but blank
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> none: hold shift at boot
[02:49] <wordToDaBird> I noticed an error message about udev before the boot screen started.
[02:49] <none> ok...... be right back
[02:49] <wordToDaBird> but that's all the info i have
[02:50] <krababbel_> y0om4: what will not work?
[02:51] <none> holding shift did nothing
[02:52] <sacarlson> wordToDaBird: if your keyboard is a usb you might try enable legacy in bios,  that helped me in the grub part, but my keyboard always worked after booting into X mode
[02:52] <nrdb> invincib1emutant, you can reset everything by moving you current 'home' somewhere else and recopy /etc/skel for a new 'home' directory.
[02:53] <wordToDaBird> sacarlson, it's my laptops keyboard, I haven't tried using a usb but I am using a thumb drive right now so I can access the p.c. so I don't think it's a bios thing.
[02:53] <wordToDaBird> built in keyboard*
[02:53] <none> ...........i cannot use my computer since installing 12.04 because as soon as "grub loading" my monitor goes into "OUT OF RANGE" and goes black
[02:54] <Icehawk> nrdb: http://pastie.org/3908025
[02:54] <Icehawk> nrdb: Also, as I was copying that down, my adapter randomly disconnected from the network and won't reconnect now.
[02:55] <sacarlson> none: try adding nomodeset on kernel boot line in grub see if that helps
[02:55] <Icehawk> So since I have to restart anyways, I'll move to the room with ethernet and try installing the software ActionParsnip recommended and see how that affects it.
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> none: hold shift at boot and you will get a text display
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> none: failing that you can chroot using liveCD and do it there
[02:56] <nrdb> Icehawk, oh.... no idea what to do about that... first I would try logout and or reset.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> none: or you could even boot live CD and edit the blacklist.conf file in the installed OS and blacklist the file that way
[02:57] <Ethek> My Ubuntu software center fails to launch, any idea how I can troubleshoot it?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> Ethek: can you give a pastebin of the output of: sudo apt-get update
[02:58] <ms-daisy> I would like to use my secondary drive to store data from both windows and ubuntu files. Sounds like it needs to be formatted FAT.  Is there a backup program that anyone can recommend suited for this application?
[02:58] <proxinix> do you know how to use the command line Ethek ?
[02:58] <nrdb> Icehawk, when you get it going again I would like to see the output of "route -n"
[02:58] <Ethek> I can open the term to get the outpu ActionParsnip mentioned
[02:58] <krababbel_> Icehawk: conceal your ipv6 address too for the mac
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> ms-daisy: fat32 has restrictions no filesize, its also not very robust. Both Ubuntu and Windows can write NTFS
[02:58] <proxinix> I've never used software center yet - always on the command line
[02:59] <none> ActionParsnip, ..... sacarlson  the 12.04 livecd works perfect... but i cannot reach use anything on my computer.. shift does not work for text grub.. i will try to fix through the livecd
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Ethek: can you make a apstebin of the text please
[02:59] <proxinix> yes Ethek put it in pastbin
[02:59] <ms-daisy> OK, so if I format it NTFS, which backup program could copy the data from Ubuntu to the drive ActionParsnip  (or anyone else who might know)?
[02:59] <Icehawk> krababbel_: Oh, okay, thanks. Wasn't sure if that was relavent or not.
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> ms-daisy: rsync
[03:00] <sacarlson> none: is your keyboard a usb device?  if so set bios to lagacy or it won't see the shift at boot
[03:00] <Icehawk> nrdb: Loading that up now.
[03:00] <ms-daisy> can you install rsync on a data hard drive with no OS ActionParsnip ?
[03:00] <escott> ms-daisy, if you are backing up to ntfs you are better off using a tool that creates tarballs the deja dup backup should do that for you
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> ms-daisy: no, you will need an OS, you can use a liveCD if necessary
[03:01] <lfaraone> I was upgrading a system from 10.04 to 12.04, and I see http://i.imgur.com/6lUIG.jpg on my screen; its basically just a bunch of []s. There're two buttons, not sure which one to press :P
[03:01] <y0om4> when using port triggering, I set source port any to 6667, and destination port any to 113 ... How come I set it to any instead of 6667 to 6667 and 113 to 113? How come port triggering to port 113 (identd) will not if i do the latter?
[03:01] <ms-daisy> thanks escott I'll check out deja dup.
[03:02] <none> sacarlson, ... my keyboard is 1995 ps2 from ibm
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: that stuff happens with gui apps, not sure what to advise really.
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: i'll try find a similar screenshot but with the text
[03:02] <lfaraone> ActionParsnip: just close it…?
[03:02] <krababbel_> y0om4: learn2tcp
[03:02] <sacarlson> none: should have no problem with that then as far as I know
[03:03] <wylde> krababbel_: comments like that are not helpful or necessary
[03:04] <ms-daisy> ActionParsnip: a liveCD- how would that work? Do you know of any tutorials or links?
[03:04] <krababbel_> sorry wylde
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> lfaraone: yeah, seems to be 'something bad happened, report an error' kinda jive
[03:04] <nrdb> lfaraone, I say the top button is 'cancel' and the bottom is 'ok' ... but you don't know the question... (bad font)
[03:04] <wylde> krababbel_: just trying to keep thiungs friendly in here ;)
[03:04] <wylde> things*
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> ms-daisy: you can mount the source and destination partitions in the liveCD and copy the data in the manner of your choosing
[03:05] <axisys> how do I find out who is using swap?
[03:05]  * ms-daisy thinks that ship may have sailed wylde  *zykotic10*
[03:05] <wylde> *gasp*
[03:06] <Icehawk> nrdb: http://pastie.org/3908061
[03:06] <zykotic10> axisys: only the kernel uses swap really.  "free" in a terminal will tell you how much is being used.
[03:07] <ms-daisy> OK, thanks ActionParsnip. And I guess that differs from mounting the second drive in my Ubuntu installation & rsyncing it from there?
[03:07] <sacarlson> y0om4: from the port numbers I guess your setting up an IRC server?
[03:08] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Restarting now with the ethernet never plugged in, but wicd *may* have solved my problem.
[03:08] <axisys> zykotic10: i know about free.. but is there a to find out which processes is causing kernel to swap?
[03:08] <axisys> zykotic10: like dtrace shows in solaris
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: wicd is awesome imho, just doesn't play well with 3G (last I checked anyway)
[03:09] <zykotic10> axisys: sorry, never looked into it THAT closely.  Good luck.
[03:09] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: One thing I did notice was that it asked for a user - will it help the connection if a user isn't logged in?
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> axisys: use:  free -m    to show the values in megabytes (easier to read)
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: I believe so
[03:10] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks for the switch.. I still like to find out what is causing the swap
[03:10] <escott> axisys, the kernel swaps at the page level. processes will swap in pages as they are needed. perhaps you want to look at the kernel performance counters
[03:11] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: It appears it did! Thanks a ton. When you say it doesn't play well with 3G... do you mean it may interfere with my cell phone's reception?
[03:12] <sioux_> !realtime
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: yeah as far as I remember, its not something I use outside my phone
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: wicd also has wicd-curses which is great on servers :)
[03:12] <axisys> escott: which one? vmstat -s 1 does not show which process
[03:12] <sioux_> hi how can i install the kernel real time in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[03:12] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Oh, so you don't mean it'll affect my phone's reception, unless I'm installing and running it *on* my phone?
[03:13] <escott> axisys, https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[03:13] <wylde> !valgrind | axisys : is this along the lines of what you want?
[03:13] <wylde> !info valgrind | axisys : is this along the lines of what you want?
[03:13] <axisys> wylde: does it show which process?
[03:14] <axisys> i will take a peek
[03:14] <wylde> typo'd the factoid! >.<
[03:15] <nrdb> Icehawk, I can't see anything wrong there.
[03:15] <axisys> escott: which pkg? linux-tools-common or linux-base ?
[03:15] <ms-daisy> Thanks ActionParsnip and escott for the backup help :)
[03:15] <escott> axisys, no idea what package it would be
[03:15] <Icehawk> nrdb: I'm not sure what actually was wrong before, but installing wicd appears to have fixed the issue, whatever it was.
[03:17] <Icehawk> ActionParsnip: Anyhow, thanks a ton for your help!
[03:17] <Icehawk> nrdb: Thanks for your help as well :)
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: not sure, sometimes wicd plays better sometimes. Especially when interfaces get names like wlan1 rather than wlan0
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk: np man
[03:17] <axisys> escott: nice tool.. thanks
[03:18] <nrdb> Icehawk, so your online there?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> nrdb: you're
[03:20] <Areckx> I am attempting to dual boot Ubuntu 10.04(running now) and Debian 6.0.4 ; at the moment I am downloading the live .iso files in order to first resize the main partition and create a new one for debian to boot from, my only problem lies with GRUB2, how do I set it up prior to starting debian install from livecd?
[03:20] <nrdb> ActionParsnip, yes ... not quite right there.
[03:20] <veebull> if using an ubuntu machine as a gateway server for a variety of different distros (Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, CentOS, Scientific) that can't directly share repos 100% safely... would squid be able to provide some of the same benefit i.e. only need to download a given package from a given host *once*?
[03:21] <none> sacarlson, ......... it is very difficult to change the grub settings from livecd
[03:21] <nrdb> Areckx, the install process should notice the other installation (if its Linux) and setup grub for you...
[03:22] <none> even after chroot it wouldn't correctly update-grub after i altered /etc/default/grub
[03:22] <Areckx> nrdb::  last time I was installing it kept trying to install grub
[03:22] <none> this kind of thing is difficult for me to fix, and really i am not an idiot
[03:22] <Areckx> nrdb::  unless for some magical reason I can do it this time...
[03:23] <zykotic10> veebull: i believe apt-cacher-ng can apt-proxy various deb distros simultaniously (you'd need to convirm that)
[03:23] <none> i have no idea how these bullshit problems keep crawling into ubuntu.... things windows and previous ubuntu could do flawlessly are now Fucked beyond all repair
[03:23] <Areckx> none::  that's why I stick with 10.04
[03:23] <none> why not just outsource the entire booting process to windows.... if ubuntu can't even set display settings correctly
[03:24] <veebull> zykotic10, Thanks
[03:24] <John_Zhi> zalbisser_
[03:24] <nrdb> Areckx, the worst that could happen is that the first grub set would be overwritten with the second grub setup and only boot into the second installation... you then would be where you are now and can modify the grub setup once both installs are done.
[03:25] <Oer> none, the display of the bootproces is very important, i see it 6 seconds, too short to start the splash grinn
[03:25] <nrdb> Areckx, I once had a computer that had about 6 different Linux installations on it at once.
[03:25] <Icehawk> nrdb: Yes I am, now.
[03:26] <nrdb> Icehawk, great ... bye.
[03:27] <nrdb> Areckx, I would suggest that you let the second setup do what it wants with grub... it should just work.
[03:29] <qawsedrf> is there a guide to setup my domain on my new vps via ssh ?
[03:31] <Areckx> nrdb::  all right, waiting for downloads to finish, I'll let you know as I progress
[03:31]  * jsuhrstedt 
[03:31] <nrdb> Areckx, ok
[03:34] <dotnetted> Hey all - is it possible to run a single node on the same physical server as the maas controller with 12.04? Thanks
[03:34] <joseph_> never had a problem installing ubuntu before. everything frezzeses after dectecting hardware about 3/4 the way though install. anyone came acoss this problem on a old dell.
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> dotnetted: how do you mean 'node'? Its a very ambigious term...
[03:39] <dotnetted> ActionParsnip: I'd like to get a MAAS node running on the same machine the MAAS controller is on (similar to MAAS xml.sys-con.com/node/1349818/mobile with UEC)
[03:40] <dotnetted> With UEC I could run the NC and CC on the same machine (useful for experimenting with UEC without having 2 physical boxes)
[03:43] <King_OnTheGo> sudokode there's nothing going on
[03:44] <twirlbang> What's the proper way to update the kernel. apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:44] <sudokode> King_OnTheGo: hello
[03:44] <dotnetted> The intended result would be having the MAAS management interface and a copy of some distro (ubuntu desktop) running on a single node on the same machine that manages it -- I guess I could pull it off by sticking the MAAS node inside virtualbox but nested virtualization does''t sound very fast heh
[03:44] <zykotic10> twirlbang: if you mean, a regular kernel update from default repo - yes use dist-upgrade
[03:44] <sham> hi! to all!
[03:44] <King_OnTheGo> hi to one
[03:45] <Jester2> I was about to ask, would you be able to do it it within a virtual machine?
[03:45] <sham> does any one know how to overcome this  error!
[03:45] <sham> orry, installation of this driver failed.
[03:45] <sham> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[03:45] <sham> please help me...
[03:45] <Chipzzz> i've installed eclipse and am trying to install the android SDK in precise but 'Android' doesn't show up in the preferences window. Anybody have any ideas?
[03:46] <sudokode> sham: posting the path to your log file is sure to help
[03:46] <Geforce88> ubuntu 12.04, nvidia current drivers, while using twinview the cursor 'sticks' on the unity launcher when going between windows. what is the fix ? also, the unity bar doesn't hide when application is in full screen. what is the fix ?
[03:47] <sham> sudokode: how i install my wifi driver
[03:47] <dotnetted> Jester2: I'm about to find out ;)
[03:47] <sham> it's show me this type of error:---
[03:47] <sham> orry, installation of this driver failed.
[03:47] <sham> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[03:47] <sudokode> alright. so paste that log file
[03:47] <Resistance> sham:  did you do what it said and look at that log file?
[03:47] <Resistance> !pastebin | sham
[03:47] <Resistance> use pastebin for pasting that log
[03:47] <Resistance> do not paste to the channel directly
[03:48] <st3el> anyone know why my audio would still be playing when I close rhythmbox?
[03:48] <sudokode> curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us </var/log/jockey.log
[03:48] <st3el> just keeps playing on after I close it
[03:48] <Jester2> Is it still the case that you can't do bridged networking setup using a KVM virtual machine to map to a physical wireless card?  What if I just want my virtual machines to see each other?
[03:48] <st3el> is there like a ctrl+alt+delete kinda thing for linux?
[03:49] <james296> does anyone here run Ubuntu 12.04 through Parallels Desktop 7?
[03:49] <jiohdi> st3el what are you trying to do with it?
[03:49] <st3el> when I'm listening to music
[03:49] <wylde> st3el: gnome-system-monitor
[03:49] <sham> ok...
[03:49] <jiohdi> ctrl-alt-f1 will bring you out to a terminal session where you can run htop or top and do many things
[03:49] <Chipzzz> st3el: while holding down Alt+PrtScr, press r, e, i, s, u, o
[03:50] <zykotic10> st3el: have you tried File / Quit (or similar).  instead of using the X?  Rhythmbox usually minimizes rather then close.
[03:50] <FoolsRun> So? I upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10 and my boot loader now says "No Such Partition" and Boot-Repair just scans and scans forever.
[03:50] <zykotic10> st3el: be careful with Chipzzz suggestion!
[03:51] <dotnetted> Before I waste the next 30 mins ... If I boot Server 12.04 into a VirtualBox instance on the same server that is running a MAAS controller, will it be able to detect the controller and add itself as a node? Thnx.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> st3el: what do you want the combo to do?
[03:51] <zykotic10> ActionParsnip: re:st3el close rhythmbox ;)
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> dotnetted: i'd ask in #vbox too
[03:51] <st3el> zykotic10,  No I didn't but now its running and I'm not sure how to stop it...
[03:51] <dotnetted> ActionParsnip: good idea
[03:51] <Chipzzz> zykotic10: look in wikipedia for "linux magic keys"... no danger with that key combo
[03:51] <zykotic10> st3el: in the menu isn't there a quit/close?
[03:51] <st3el> zykotic10, note
[03:51] <st3el> zykotic10, noted
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> st3el: press ALT+F2 and run: xkill    then click the app
[03:52] <wolfcore> st3el: what doesn't stop?
[03:52] <st3el> one moment
[03:52] <Geforce88> ubuntu 12.04, nvidia current drivers, while using twinview the cursor 'sticks' on the unity launcher when going between windows. what is the fix ? also, the unity bar doesn't hide when application is in full screen. what is the fix ?
[03:53] <wylde> Geforce88: that's the sticky option for the launch bar. You turn it off in System Settings > Displays, or Appearance.
[03:53] <Geforce88> i'll go try it , wylde, thx
[03:54] <wylde> Geforce88: I'm looking for the right spot now. I could possibly be mixing in options from ubuntu-tweak though :s
[03:55] <myersg> its 10:55 pm, ( 22:55) good night ubuntu community, and my screen keeps going black every few minutes what the cause? email me: myersg2013@gmail.com
[03:55] <wylde> nope, it was displays, and he's gone so must have found it lol
[03:56] <SolarisBoy> in your TZ ofcourse =)
[03:58] <Chipzzz> myersg: screen saver?
[03:59] <xubu> is there a program or command i can use to suspend my laptop at a specified time or countdown?
[03:59] <Chipzzz> Hoping someone knows but was busy earlier: i've installed eclipse and am trying to install the android SDK in precise but 'Android' doesn't show up in the preferences window. Anybody have any ideas?
[04:00] <sudokode> xubu: sleep?
[04:00] <zykotic10> sudokode: sleep is just a pause-like feature for scripts
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> xubu: echo 'pmi action suspend' | at now + 40 minutes         for suspending 40 mins time
[04:01] <xubu> is there a difference between sleep and suspend?
[04:01] <sudokode> lol yes. he wanted a countdown
[04:01] <sham> here the log file....
[04:01] <sham> http://paste.ubuntu.com/986562/
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> xubu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387
[04:02] <k014> hello everyone!, i am having some trouble using opengl, every time i run my program, the system freezes by a minute or two, i have isolated a function that make the difference: "glTranslatef", i dont know what is hapening, someone can help me to diagnose the problem?, i am using ubuntu 12.04
[04:02] <nischay> Hi Guys :)
[04:03] <sham> please help me log file is here and it's start from 800....
[04:03] <sham> OK.......I also use ubuntu but I was thinking that Anonymous OS is a public launched!.....but now i am thinking that it would be dangerous to use....thanks for ur comment!
[04:03] <sham> http://paste.ubuntu.com/986562/
[04:04] <axisys> i have a dvd+rw dvd.. but failing to blank it after burning some data in it
[04:04] <axisys> Error: this media does not support blanking, ignoring.
[04:04] <axisys> This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
[04:05] <axisys> so I must be misunderstanding dvd+rw rewritable label?
[04:05] <Resistance> axisys:  is your system capable of handling rewritable disks?
[04:05] <Resistance> axisys:  not every CD/DVD burner can work with RW disks
[04:05] <ki4ro> Is there a difference between restart and log out?
[04:06] <King_OnTheGo> of course?
[04:06] <axisys> cdrecord ISOs/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso seems to working
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> axisys: sure its a RW?
[04:06] <axisys> so just not able to blank it.. my laptop has dvd rw printed on the cd tray
[04:06] <Nk26> How is the flash game support in 12.04? thinking of throwing that on a netbook for my son instead of windows 7
[04:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: cdrecord ISOs/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso shouldn't be working otherwise.. i already burned some other data few mins ago
[04:07]  * jeremy__ 
[04:07] <Chipzzz> axissys: wodim is a command line cd/dvd writing utility that often works when gui apps don't
[04:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: unless it will say failed lot later
[04:07] <ki4ro> Is there a difference between restart and log out?
[04:08] <King_OnTheGo> of course?
[04:08] <Northwoods> which editor can be used to edit 100 MB sql text file ?
[04:08] <EvilResistance> ki4ro:  'log out' only logs you out, but leaves other system processes running.  'restart' will literally reboot your system
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> axisys: could try blanking it in cli
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> axisys: or try xfburn, see if it plays nice
[04:09] <EvilResistance> ki4ro:  which involves shutting off system processes and literally telling your computer to run a boot cycle again
[04:09] <Northwoods> Which editor can i use to edit a 100 MB file ?
[04:09] <ki4ro> EvilResistance: Okay...it looks the same but obviously is not...thanks!
[04:09] <axisys> i were able to put new ubuntu image
[04:09] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: libreoffice
[04:09] <EvilResistance> ki4ro:  they are actually different :p
[04:09] <axisys> so RW worked.. just not blanking
[04:09] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip, can it handle a 100 mb file , any other you sugges ?
[04:09] <ki4ro> EvilResistance: Thanks!
[04:10] <EvilResistance> ki4ro:  but most people don't run without the boot screen / splash screens disabled, so...
[04:10]  * EvilResistance does
[04:10] <wylde> EvilResistance: what is this boot/splash screen you speak of?
[04:10] <wylde> :P
[04:10] <EvilResistance> wylde:  :P
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> axisys: sudo wodim dev=/dev/dvdrw blank=fast
[04:10] <GeForce88> 12.04 unity doesn't hide when using an app full screen. how do you fix this ?
[04:10] <vodik> ki4ro: you can only complete a kernel upgrade with a reboot, there's one very big practical difference
[04:10] <k014> i have installed nvidia drivers from webpage, .... how can i uninstall them?
[04:11] <tdelam> h
[04:11] <dotnetted> anyone have a link to the changes in Ubuntu's cloud capabilities over the last few releases? It looks like it went form UEC to UC to MAAS and the docs reference all 3 variants depending on which links you click - And nothing seems to really explain what the current situation is or what the different parts accomplish. Thanks.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> axisys: or: sudo dvd+rw-format -blank /dev/dvdrw
[04:11] <EvilResistance> wylde:  disabled the '12.04' purple screen and disabled 'quiet' mode so i see all the kernel messages and boot up messages instead of the pretty purple screen that says "Ubuntu 12.04"
[04:11] <EvilResistance> s/disabled/i disabled/
[04:11] <mosno> is it normal for firefox to NOT have the ubuntu-style scroll bars?
[04:11] <wylde> EvilResistance: yep, me too. I'd rather see the messages than the purple screen.
[04:11] <EvilResistance> mhm
[04:12] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986577/
[04:12] <axisys> ActionParsnip: xfburn says dvd+rw does not need blanking in red font
[04:12] <Northwoods> ActionParsnip,  i found one , works considerably faster , GVIM
[04:13] <qawsedrf> is there a guide to setup my domain on my new vps via ssh ?
[04:13] <wylde> pbuilder-dist precise create
[04:13] <wylde> crap...
[04:14] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986581/
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Northwoods: nice
[04:15] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986582/
[04:15] <GeForce88> wykde, was there a trick to making the unity launcher hide when i use an app full screen ?
[04:15] <wylde> GeForce88: I think it will only hide if you set auto-hide on always.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> axisys: did you try the suggested command in the output?
[04:16] <axisys> ActionParsnip: blank=all ? yes
[04:16] <GeForce88> wylde, where would i find that? displays again?
[04:16] <wylde> GeForce88: there may be some cli witchcraft to make it happen that I don't know about tho :)
[04:16] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986582/
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> axisys: yes, did you try it?
[04:16] <axisys> ActionParsnip: yes I tried with blank=all
[04:16] <wylde> GeForce88: that was for the "Sticky" setting, I think auto-hide may be there as well. If not it'll be in appearance
[04:16] <axisys> ActionParsnip: this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/986582/
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> axisys: did you try: sudo dvd+rw-format -blank /dev/sr0
[04:17] <intrader> Anyone, is is Ok to use the update manager to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. What should I save?
[04:18] <EvilResistance> intrader:  you should back up your information you want to keep first
[04:18] <EvilResistance> just in case
[04:18] <EvilResistance> intrader:  and honestly, i'd do the upgrade from the command line, not from update manager
[04:18] <EvilResistance> (but that's just me)
[04:18] <Sheldon420> Test
[04:18] <axisys> ActionParsnip: it seems ignoring -force
[04:18] <EvilResistance> Sheldon420:  success, but in future, #test exists
[04:18] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986587/
[04:18] <wylde> 3 basic rules for ANY OS 1. Backup 2. Backup 3. Backup ..... IMHO
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sure, Oneiric to Precise is a suported upgrade :)
[04:19] <EvilResistance> wylde:  you forgot rule #4: backup
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> intrader, whatever you cannot afford to lose
[04:19] <GeForce88> wylde, you were correct. thanks mate.
[04:19] <wylde> GeForce88: np :)
[04:19] <Chipzzz> axisys: try adding "speed=1" to the wodim command line
[04:19] <axisys> ActionParsnip: sudo dvd+rw-format -force /dev/sr0 trying this
[04:19] <Sheldon420> EvilResistance: haha, I was checking if my messages are going through.  Thanks for confirming.
[04:19] <intrader> EvilResistance, `thanks, from command line, how?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> axisys: could just throw the media and get new, DVDs are cheap
[04:19] <EvilResistance> intrader:  i'd recommend even moreso from the TTY, i forget the command offhand, but someone else here might know.  that, and i'm headed off because i'm exhausted.
[04:20] <intrader> EvilResistance, rest my friend - thanks
[04:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: sudo dvd+rw-format -force /dev/sr0 this worked
[04:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/986591/
[04:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot!
[04:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: i did not need to throw it.. RW worked.. just blanking was failing
[04:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: now that works too.. thanks again!
[04:23] <axisys> Chipzzz: speed=1 was no go..
[04:23] <Chipzzz> axisys: glad ActionParsnip's solution worked :)
[04:23] <axisys> Chipzzz: yep
[04:23] <Naemdar> Hello all, I have a design question for a a4 powered media computer
[04:24] <xubu> ActionParsnip: thanks, i just find exactly what i'm looking for ... http://www.techlw.com/2012/02/install-qshutdown-timer-in-ubuntulinux.html
[04:24] <Naemdar> Would I need a video capture card to intercept the signal from the cable box?
[04:24] <Naemdar> going to run linux on it
[04:25] <Chipzzz> Trying one last time: i've installed eclipse and am trying to install the android SDK in precise but 'Android' doesn't show up in the preferences window. Anybody have any ideas?
[04:25] <Sheldon420> naemdar: yes, i think you would need one.
[04:26] <axisys> mplayer plays this mp4 fine.. but vlc does not
[04:26] <axisys> what gives? should I ask it in #videolan channel instead ?
[04:26] <Naemdar> the mobo has hdmi out and I found a video capture card with dual hdmi
[04:26] <axisys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/986593/
[04:26] <Chipzzz> axisys: they don't necessarily share the same codecs
[04:27] <axisys> Chipzzz: i thought anything plays on vlc.. :-) .. guess not
[04:27] <vodik> axisys: well they're both ffmpeg backed, afaik, they just may not be running the same version
[04:27] <Naemdar> Am I right in thinking I could rock ubuntu or mint and turn that rig into a capture/bd recorder then?
[04:28] <Chipzzz> axisys: their support is very good but mplayer does provide more codecs
[04:28] <Naemdar> as well as a bd player
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: what is 'bd'?
[04:28] <Naemdar> blue ray
[04:28] <vodik> playing blueray on linux is fun
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: don't see why not
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> doesn't vlc do blueray now?
[04:29] <Naemdar> cool deal will save me 100 bucks then on the os
[04:29] <Naemdar> I figure 8 gigs of ram quad core 2.6 with built in gpu, and a 1t drive with 100 gigs cut off for linux
[04:30] <vodik> ActionParsnip: decryption is still an issue, afaik
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> vlc ver 2.0: Experimental Blu-Ray Discs support using libbluray
[04:30] <vodik> but if you can break it, yes
[04:30] <vodik> its not quite like libdvdcss
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> not bothered for bluray personally, thats all I know
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: get an nvidia video card to :)
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: built in GPUs don't really cut it
[04:31] <Naemdar> going for really low power, I had considered a 7770 as that is powered off of the pcie port
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: you'll only need about 20Gb for linux (including swap)
[04:32] <Naemdar> it just has to all fit in a slim case and run cool without excessive fans
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: trimslice will decode HD video...
[04:33] <Naemdar> sweet, I knew this was the place get advice on the build
[04:34] <Naemdar> its kind of a project that I suspect will be a good learning experience
[04:35] <Naemdar> and 960 gigs or so to just store media is a winner
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: i'd just buy a trimslice and a 1Tb USB HDD :)
[04:37] <Naemdar> That is an option as well
[04:37] <Naemdar> its in the design stage right now, I figure why pay comcast for dvr service when I can build my own.
[04:38] <trevor> ident test
[04:38] <root> Hi Guys..
[04:39] <zykotic10> root: are you using backtrack, or IRCing as root?
[04:39] <Guest81912> ident go
[04:39] <Guest43125> Please help i can't connect to wireless..its say bad password..sure password is corecct
[04:39] <Naemdar> I will look into that trimslice thing though.  I appreciate the help.
[04:40] <Guest81912> i forgot. how do i change my handle?
[04:40] <Guest43125> Hi..
[04:40] <Sheldon420> Guest81912: The command is /nick <your nickname>
[04:41] <Sheldon420> guest43125: you might have to disconnect and reconnect and do it
[04:42] <cmdpromt> does anyone know if precise is worthy of non servers (single pc's) ??
[04:43] <xangua> cmdpromt: try it
[04:43] <Oer> cmdpromt, sure, what makes you think not?
[04:44] <trc> Hi, I'm ugrading to 12.04 from 11.10. While installing packages, the upgrade process is stuck at part where it has to download  flashplugin part? What can I do? Its not progressing
[04:44] <qawsedrf> when i run a command as sudo, in auth.log the it shows USER=root instead of my username, is that fine/normal ?
[04:45] <windbuntu> how long has it been stuck trc?
[04:45] <wylde> qawsedrf: yep. sudo = running the command as root.
[04:45] <qawsedrf> ok
[04:45] <phuongvo> Hi
[04:45] <trc> Pretty long. Not normal I guess
[04:45] <qawsedrf> wylde: the root account is locked in ubuntu - what does that mean ?
[04:45] <windbuntu> like half hour or more?
[04:46] <wylde> qawsedrf: it means it has no password set. :)
[04:46] <Saik> hey guys. I have a big problem. I can't get /dev/sda to show at all in devices
[04:46] <Sheldon420> trc: how long has it been?
[04:46] <qawsedrf> wylde: hm, i bought a new VPS, it gives me root login and has a password (i use that when i ssh)
[04:46] <trc> Sheldon420: I think should be more than an hour.
[04:46] <Sheldon420> trc: i updated the flashplugin installer a few minutes back .. it took almost 10-15 mins for me.
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Saik: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[04:46] <qawsedrf> ssh root@ip , then it asks for the root password i think, so i can login as root
[04:46] <zykotic10> Saik: sda is a drive (single device), do you mean partitions (sda1 for example)?
[04:47] <windbuntu> trc do you have a fast stable internet connection?
[04:47] <Sheldon420> trc: geez.  that's quite long indeed.  are you doing the update from terminal?
[04:47] <qawsedrf> so something wrong ?
[04:47] <Guest43125> Sheldon420,...i was try but its same problem..
[04:47] <trc> Sheldon420: No, the distribution upgrade utility.
[04:47] <wylde> qawsedrf: you can set one, it's very much discouraged. Especially for "users".
[04:47] <trc> Upgrding from 11.10 to 12.04
[04:48] <zykotic10> Saik: sorry, misread your statement - nevermind me ;)
[04:48] <Sheldon420> guest43125: close your irc software.  open it again, within like 30 seconds, you have to type /nick <nickname> to register it for the session.
[04:48] <Sheldon420> trc: hmmm.  one sec
[04:48] <wylde> qawsedrf: If it's a VPS then that's how your provider set it up. I suppose you could create yourself a non-root user to use for running tasks.
[04:49] <boh> hello
[04:49] <qawsedrf> ok
[04:50] <Saik> Jordan_U, sure, sec
[04:51] <Sheldon420> trc: unfortunately, if you cancel while the update is happening, it might screw up your system.  hope you've made a backup. in the future, it's probably best to upgrade from a live usb or do a fresh install.
[04:52] <trc> Sheldon420: Exactly. I'm thinking to cancel  the update and install downloaded deb packages myself
[04:52] <trc> Lets see
[04:52] <Sheldon420> trc: it might make your system unbootable.
[04:53] <Saik> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/iEkbu7Ju
[04:53] <zykotic10> Sheldon420: i don't see trying to update versions from a liveusb as possible.  chrooting would be required, isn't that just adding a lot of complexity?
[04:53] <trc> Sheldon420: Not a problem. Can install grunb again from livecs
[04:54] <Sheldon420> trc: as long as you've made a backup and don't have another OS on the computer, you shouldn't have too much problems in fixing it.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> Saik: Does any OS see the internal drive? Are you sure that there isn't a hardware problem?
[04:54] <qawsedrf> wylde: how do you set password for root ? just wondering
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> qawsedrf: its not supported here
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> !noroot
[04:55] <wylde> qawsedrf: ^^ what ActionParsnip said
[04:55] <Sheldon420> zykotic10: there's an option in the livecd/usb to upgrade. pretty simple.
[04:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> I installed this OS with home encryption on /sda1   harddrive then I set the swap on /sdc1,  I used the /sdb1 as stick installation instead of cd-rom, but when I pulled it out to boot from /sda1  I guess it made sdc1 into sdb1, and now I have no swap. When ubuntu boots up it tells me this: The disk drive for dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not yet ready or present.
[04:55] <trc> Sheldon420: Yeah. Thanks :)
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> qawsedrf: you don't need to either, just run:  sudo -i
[04:55] <qawsedrf> hehe ok
[04:55] <qawsedrf> :D
[04:56] <zykotic10> is Sheldon420's upgrading ubuntu-version from livecd/usb true?  history only the alternative iso could be used for updating?
[04:56] <Saik> Jordan_U, it was fine a few hours ago
[04:56] <Saik> Jordan_U, I eraces the partions and that happened
[04:56] <wylde> zykotic10: for the sake of trying I updated one of my machines using a "livecd". It went quite well actually.
[04:56] <zykotic10> wylde: humm, that's interesting.
[04:57] <Saik> Jordan_U, Windows couldn't see it. I tried reformating it in linux and it vanished
[04:57] <Jordan_U> Saik: I don't think that erasing the partitions has anything to do with the dive as a whole not showing up. I suspect that the drive hardware simply died.
[04:57] <Sheldon420> zykotic10: i'm not just speaking out of my ass, you know :)
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: the fstab uses UUIDs, not the block names, so it won't make a different
[04:57] <qawsedrf> wylde: ActionParsnip: basically, sudo runs a command as the root user , right ?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> *difference
[04:57] <wylde> qawsedrf: yes.
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> qawsedrf: yes, if you need admin access, prefix with sudo
[04:57] <qawsedrf> ok, thank you
[04:58] <zykotic10> Sheldon420: sorry, just needed some confirmation.
[04:58] <Sheldon420> zykotic10: no worries
[04:58] <wylde> zykotic10: I read it somewhere that it was possible with the 12.04 live media so I tried it :)
[04:59] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip, ok how can i remap it so I'm using swap? the only reason I set swap on different device is I read somewhere online that putting the os and swap on save harddrive will make it work more because it reads back and fort etc etc
[05:00] <wylde> n1ckn4me09876543: that would really only become an issue if you're running with a small amount of RAM
[05:00] <Saik> Jordan_U, explain how that could be possible when it was showing up just a short while ago?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Saik: Hardware dies. That means that there will be a point where it is working, and another point later where it is not.
[05:01] <Saik> Jordan_U, but what exactly does this mean: Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Saik: It may simply be a loose connection rather than something unfixable, but it's almost certainly a hardware problem.
[05:02] <Saik> Jordan_U, Windows gives a "Unmountablte_boot_volume" error
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Saik: That means that your CDROM drive doesn't isn't formatted like a normal hard drive, i.e. that error is completely normal.
[05:03] <cmdpromt> the last time i tried installing precise it froze and I ended up having to completely reinstall my os and lost all data
[05:03] <Saik> hodl on, I have another hd
[05:03] <wylde> cmdpromt: that's why you keep backups.
[05:03] <Saik> an external, bt let's see if it shows
[05:04] <cmdpromt> that's beside the point
[05:04] <Saik> Jordan_U, Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB  (external hd..)
[05:04] <Saik> that should be sdb )
[05:06] <n1ckn4me09876543> also I need help configuring my Belkin wireless adapter, I'm using n600db
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Saik: I hope you have backups for all the data that was on the now dead drive. You might ask in ##hardware for tips on what cables or other simple things to check but don't get your hopes up.
[05:06] <Saik> Jordan_U, I'll do a quick HW check and see if anything's out of place in the tower
[05:06] <Saik> I'll be right back
[05:06] <Saik> (I'm not going in the tower with the power on)
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: if you edit your /etc/fstab file, you can make the right partition be used for swap. You can see the UUID of the partition by running:  sudo blkid
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: could also run: sudo swapon a
[05:09] <gbear14275> Hello, I am having problems getting an application to show on the unity dock.  I drag it over but it just disappears...
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: sudo swapon -a
[05:09] <gbear14275> Can't find much on google..  Anyone seen this before?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: the router is moot, we need your wireless adapter
[05:10] <boh> gbear14275, open the application from dash, when it shows in the panel, right click on it and select attach to panel
[05:10] <lorddelta> Gdammit. Any help with upgrading my distro? 11 hour long upgrade just failed, failed on the kernel update I think...
[05:11] <lorddelta> God damn that bug.
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: tried with the alternate ISO?
[05:11] <gbear14275> boh, it never shows in the panel
[05:11] <jagginess> that sux
[05:11] <lorddelta> ActionParsnip: Not using ISO
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: you could try it
[05:11] <windbuntu> i hate that when  that happens
[05:11] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip, my usb wireless adapter is n600db  F9L1101v1
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[05:12] <lorddelta> ActionParsnip: I could...if I could figure out where to get it/what it does. I don't have a GUI, trying to fly by console only...
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: you don't need GUI to mount an ISO file
[05:12] <gbear14275> boh, it shows in top but I can't get to the interface...
[05:12] <gbear14275> very confusing
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: seems to use ndiswrapper as most belkin rubbish does
[05:13] <pp7> how do u set up copy-on-write using aufs or overlayfs?
[05:13] <gbear14275> now I can't alt-tab to it either
[05:13] <boh> gbear14275, what application are you using?
[05:13] <gbear14275> boh, transmission
[05:14] <wylde> gbear14275:  ...is there an icon up by the clock when it's running?
[05:14] <lorddelta> ActionParsnip: Sure... How is an alternate ISO file going to help me out? Since its a bug with there not being enough space on /boot...shouldn't I just uninstall the new kernel and try running the upgrade again?
[05:14] <gbear14275> wylde, there was, but I recently turned it off thinking perhaps that was the problem.  Now I can't even get to the gui
[05:14] <boh> gbear14275, if i'm not wrong, you mean the application not showing in indicator applet?
[05:14] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip, i type in command   lsusb    then what 8 character the model number?
[05:15] <gbear14275> wylde, I used to have to click on that icon, select "open" and then cancel out of that screen to get the main gui up
[05:15] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip nvm
[05:15] <gbear14275> boh, it's not showing anywhere in the gui
[05:15] <gbear14275> boh, but it's running... shows in top
[05:15] <wylde> gbear14275: hmmm, yeah the transmission icon only shows on my launcher when I open it from the indicator.
[05:16] <mosno> why do i get choppy Adobe Flash audio only on Ubuntu? CentOS, Debian and Fedora don't do this
[05:16] <mosno> it's a ThinkPad T60 with 3GB RAM
[05:16] <mosno> and it's a bit of a deal-breaker :(
[05:17] <wylde> gbear14275: not sure what to tell you. I've not ever had a problem of that sort with transmission.
[05:17] <gbear14275> wylde, boh, haha, indications still work though... just "dinged" at me when it completed a file
[05:17] <wylde> lol
[05:17] <wylde> gbear14275: what if you tried to launch it in terminal.
[05:17] <boh> gbear14275, so you can see the transmission icon near the indicator area but does not show up in the unity panel?
[05:18] <gbear14275> boh, no... I see no indications that it is running at all
[05:18] <gbear14275> wylde, nothing right now... guessing because it's already running
[05:18] <gbear14275> wylde, let me kill it and try to relaunch
[05:19] <wylde> gbear14275:  'killall transmission-gtk' then try starting with 'transmission-gtk'
[05:19] <wylde> gbear14275: if it's throwing errors they'll show in the terminal window
[05:19] <boh> gbear14275, look at the running process from system monitor and see if transmission is running
[05:19] <gbear14275> ???
[05:19] <gbear14275> killall says it's not running... but top does... wtf?!
[05:20] <gbear14275> boh, yup shows up there
[05:20] <gbear14275> ok killed it through system monitor
[05:20] <gbear14275> I'll try launching from dash
[05:21] <wylde> gbear14275: lol ok, apparently that doesn't work, if you can get the pid from top 'kill <PID>
[05:22] <gbear14275> wylde, boh, ok comes up when I launch it.... but still no indicators anywhere... if I minimize it I think I won't be able to get back to it
[05:22] <wylde> gbear14275: you have an icon on the launcher now tho?
[05:22] <wylde> gbear14275:  if so pin it now hehe
[05:22] <gbear14275> wylde, boh also doesn't show up in alt-tab menu either... is that program list related to the thing on the left (?dash?)
[05:22] <gbear14275> ah nope... no launcher indicator
[05:23] <wylde> gbear14275: that's the "Launchbar"
[05:23] <greatestud> Is there games, ala the first myst's, but which uses high-resolution still pictures from the real world?
[05:23] <rfictus> how to close ports 135, 137, 138, 139?
[05:23] <greatestud> or any games
[05:23] <gbear14275> wylde, ok no launchbar/launcher indicator also no icon in my alt-tab icons... are they related?
[05:24] <cmdpromt> OMG I remember Myst. I also remember Riven being uber difficult. Could never get past that one place...
[05:24] <wylde> gbear14275:  that's definitely odd behavior. At this point I'd suggest filing a bug. 'ubuntu-bug transmission-gtk' will get the process started. I'll search a bit on askubuntu.com and the forums.
[05:25] <gbear14275> wylde, just found tis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129452/application-locked-to-launcher-without-icon
[05:25] <gbear14275> will try
[05:25] <TomatoKetchup> rfictus, do you use Samba?  I think those ports are required for it to function
[05:25] <gbear14275> wylde thanks ill file a bug
[05:25] <rfictus> TomatoKetchup: no, no samba
[05:25] <rfictus> just ubuntu
[05:25] <rfictus> TomatoKetchup: ubuntu
[05:26] <wylde> gbear14275: thanks, that is most certainly not "intended behavior".
[05:26] <gbear14275> success
[05:26] <gbear14275> that command looks to have fixed itt
[05:27] <wylde> gbear14275: good stuff, I'd still file a bug though :)
[05:27] <gbear14275> but problem was persistent across reboot fyi
[05:27] <rfictus> gotta go
[05:27] <wylde> or search for one. It's probably got a fix if there's a soloution for it.
[05:27] <TomatoKetchup> assuming he didn't know what Samba is
[05:27] <gbear14275> that command didn't background either... still in my terminal
[05:28] <wylde> gbear14275: if you hit enter does it go to the background? :)
[05:28] <gbear14275> thanks for your help wylde and boh
[05:29] <wylde> gbear14275:  :)
[05:29] <boh> gbear14275: you are welcome
[05:29] <Saik> Jordan_U, http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120514074040573862.png
[05:34] <Saik> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[05:36] <mosno> well, i "fixed" my stuttering audio in Adobe Flash -- i switched from Unity to Unity 2D.
[05:37] <lorddelta> ActionParsnip: Well, looks like I am running the new kernel, and the new Ubuntu. However, I'm still relegated to cmdline...gotta figure out how to get some sort of working desktop back...looks like the updates killed KDE. Doesn't help I'm two months rusty on my *nix stuff.
[05:37] <nibalizer> lorddelta: can you service lightdm start?
[05:38] <nibalizer> or did you use kdm?
[05:39] <lorddelta> nibalizer: seems like I setup kdm. Ubuntu sure doesn't have this sweet faux-Steampunk login page. :)
[05:39] <lorddelta> Not by default anyways.
[05:40] <lorddelta> nibalizer: Am I in for a long grueling read on how to setup ubuntu desktop with kdm?
[05:41] <unkrr> i want to use KDE widget inside gnome environment  is that possible ??
[05:42] <Saik> Jordan_U, and now it doesn't show up again
[05:43] <lorddelta> unkrr: Seems likely...You can use Qt/KDE/GTK inside Gnome/KDE Desktop...You probably have to start a daemon or something. No I don't know which one, just getting back into this myself, but I think it should be *possible*, persay
[05:44] <greatestud> Is there games, ala the first myst's, but which uses high-resolution still pictures from the real world?
[05:44] <mosno> so do i file a bug under unity or flash?
[05:45] <unkrr> lorddelta, any suggestion or help regarding that ?
[05:45] <Loshki> unkrr: you can run kde apps from gnome, provided you have the right libraries. Apt should take care of that for you, as long as you don't mind a large install....
[05:45] <unkrr> Loshki, okk thnx
[05:46] <unkrr> lorddelta, thnx
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Saik: Again, this is almost certainly a hardware problem.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Saik: Can you pastebin the outptu of "dmesg"?
[05:48] <lorddelta> unkrr: Look around the documentation for plasma-widgets. www.kde.org
[05:49] <lorddelta> unkrr: Though from personal experience, its always a headache getting gtk and qt to play nice together, so don't expect it to be easy. Best of Luck!
[05:49] <unkrr> lorddelta, ok and by the way can you suggest me some widget that can be helpful for common bases like cpu usage mem usage and RSS feed
[05:49] <unkrr> yeah i need the luck
[05:49] <unkrr> thnx
[05:49] <Saik> Jordan_U, can you give me a command to print to file?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Saik: dmesg > Desktop/dmesg.txt
[05:50] <sancas> i cant view the list with fdisk -l
[05:51] <sancas> i got it "fdisk: unable to look in /dev/sda: Invalid argument"
[05:51] <sancas> i have raid 0
[05:52] <Saik> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/5fc7ksgN
[05:52] <Jordan_U> sancas: If it's FakeRAID (which it appears to be) then you want to list partitions on the RAID device, not on one of the member drives.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Saik: "[ 1759.912269] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 2048" more evidence that this is a hardware failure.
[05:54] <sancas> yeah is FakeRAID and... how can i get a list partitions on the RAID device?
[05:54] <lorddelta> unkrr: Well if you're using KDE, and I assume you are since you know about their widgets, I think it comes with CPU Monitor, which does a lot of that. I think there's a default RSS feed widget too...if you want a single widget to do all of that...sorry I don't know of one.
[05:54] <Jordan_U> sancas: "sudo parted -l" should work.
[05:55] <Saik> Jordan_U, any way to fix it at all without replacing the hard drive?
[05:55] <unkrr> lorddelta, yeah i need that single one would be helpful     anyways thnx for the help
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Saik: It depends on what type of failure it is, but unless it's just a bad cable probably not. Try asking in ##hardware.
[05:55] <sancas> thanks Jordan_U
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Saik: You're welcome.
[05:56] <Jordan_U> sancas: ^^ :)
[05:56] <sancas> ^
[05:56] <jeremy__> unkrr: try conky.  highly configurable and you can make it as easy or as complex as you like.
[05:56] <sancas> ^^
[05:56] <lorddelta> unkrr: np
[05:56] <unkrr> jeremy__, ok
[05:57] <Saik> Jordan_U, has a temp fix on it somehow, we had it working for some time until is stopped again
[05:59] <chethu> any one tel me how to install canon LPB2900 printer drivers in ubuntu 12
[06:03] <urlwolf> what is apt-check and why does it steal a CPU for seconds every few mins?
[06:04] <chethu> jeremy__, can u tel me how to install canon LPB2900 printer drivers in ubuntu 12
[06:05] <zykotic10> urlwolf: i certainly didn't know (and it's not on debian), http://askubuntu.com/questions/75888/what-is-apt-check-and-why-does-it-run-during-boot
[06:07] <jeremy__> chethu: try opening unity and typing "printer configuration"
[06:19] <trijntje> since I tried to install Lord of Ultima from the softwarecenter I keep getting this error when I run apt-get upgrade: "W: Ophalen van https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/lordofultima/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt  The requested URL returned error: 403"
[06:19] <sancas> i had problems with my grub
[06:20] <sancas> them i used boot-repair
[06:20] <trijntje> I've tried to find that repository in /etc/apt/sources.list, but it's not there
[06:20] <snapdata> Every time I start up Ubuntu (12.04) the first time I press enter (no matter what window I'm focused on, if any) it logs me out. When I log back in I can press enter without any hinderance.
[06:20] <snapdata> ANy ideas?
[06:20] <sancas> but i cant enter to windows i only can enter to linux
[06:21] <sancas> windows option not found in the grub
[06:25] <oeeve> Hi there, was hoping someone could help me with my java problem. I'm just getting "error, no plugin available" and thought the problem was with openjdk, so i uninstalled it and icedtea, and then installed sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre... but when I do sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, i get  this message: "Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has
[06:25] <oeeve> been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"..all ubuntu software repositiries are checked"
[06:25] <osmosis> how do I get rid of the sticky windows stickey mouse behavior? the edge of the screen always grabs my cursor when I am trying to go between screens, and when I am trying to drag windows across too.
[06:25] <g00053> ok, jokes over redtube isn't working....how do I get flash to work
[06:26] <sancas> oeeve: download jdk from here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[06:26] <xangua> oeeve: oracle/sun jave is no longer in ubuntu repository
[06:27] <TomatoKetchup> g00053, are you having problems just on redtube?
[06:28] <Onixs> redtube!
[06:28] <TomatoKetchup> hah
[06:28] <Onixs> repornsitory
[06:28] <TomatoKetchup> poor guy can't get his fix
[06:30] <sancas> oeeve: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jdk.html
[06:30] <Saik> any way to find out what TYPE of hardware you have in your pc on linux? (ie what type of hard drive)
[06:31] <oeeve> ah, that explains it:) thanks,,.. I could only find developers versions on the link you gave me, but I guess I get the same from java.com and I see they have som sort of install instructions too:)
[06:31] <veebull> what the heck is this?!?  fresh install of 12.04 server in a VM, updated, installed dhcp server and squid-deb-proxy... now I've got a process named 'whoopsie' running... sounds kinda odd!
[06:31] <sancas> oeeve: what version do you want?
[06:31] <oeeve> aha, that last link, I'll try that one, with java7;)  thanks;)
[06:32] <fidel> Saik: there is 'hwinfo' & 'lshw-gtk' & 'HardInfo' & 'SysInfo' - not sure what they provide in detail
[06:32] <griselda> pex
[06:32] <Saik> veebull, sorry, can't resist. that's just funny
[06:32] <TomatoKetchup> veebull, Ubuntu crash database submission daemon
[06:32] <oeeve> I don't know, I want the one thats easiest to install( I'm qite a noob when it comes to linux) and that can get me in to my online bank.
[06:32] <Saik> fidel: hwinfo sda?
[06:32] <Saik> fidel: hwinfo /dev/sda?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> sancas: What is the outptu of "sudo os-prober"?
[06:33] <sancas> Jordan_U: nothing :(
[06:33] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sancas
[06:33] <Jordan_U> sancas: That usually means that your Windows installation is broken.
[06:33] <veebull> TomatoKetchup, interesting... I did a quick net search for 'ubuntu whoopsie' and got nuttin'...
[06:34] <sancas> fucking Windows
[06:34] <TomatoKetchup> really? I found it first try, googled whoopsie ubuntu
[06:34] <bazhang> sancas, no cursing here
[06:34] <TomatoKetchup> ;)
[06:34] <sancas> oeeve: install the jdk7 read this tutorial and you can do it http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jdk.html
[06:34] <fidel> Saik: reading man-pages for new cmd is alwas the way to go if you dont know em
[06:35] <Saik> fidel: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe libhd15 15.3-1ubuntu1
[06:35] <veebull> TomatoKetchup, guess DuckDuckGo finally let me down ;)
[06:35] <Saik>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.193 80]
[06:35] <Saik> it hates me lol
[06:35] <sancas> i will try something :P
[06:35] <TomatoKetchup> veebull, yeah I gave up on that a few days ago... it's not google
[06:35] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Saik
[06:35] <xangua> Saik: jaunty is has been long time since stopped support, please upgrade or install a supported ubuntu version
[06:36] <oeeve> I'll try that, thank you sancas:) btw, how do you get "my nick" in front of message? quite nifty, makes it quite a lot easier to chat in irc;p
[06:36] <bazhang> oeeve, type three letters and hit tab
[06:36] <veebull> no, no its not... but 99% of the time I can live without the 'tailored' search results
[06:36] <derpella> Hello. I am trying to make a new account, and it seems I am stuck on "gathering informations"? The computer is slow, but it takes like 10 minutes... Should I wait, or is it some error?
[06:36] <derpella> In ubuntuone
[06:37] <Saik> xangua, it's live CD and the pc won't boot anything newer from livecd
[06:37] <bazhang> derpella, also try #ubuntuone
[06:37] <TomatoKetchup> oeeve, type partial nick and hit Tab
[06:38] <g00053> TomatoKetchup, no everywhere...youtube works but i don't think it's flash
[06:38] <TomatoKetchup> I'm assuming that is what you mean.
[06:38] <violinappren> Saik:  any error messages when you boot a newer one?
[06:38] <oeeve> bazhang, aha got it! thanks guys;)
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Saik: What happens when you try to boot an Ubuntu 12.04 LiveCD?
[06:39] <Saik> Jordan_U, freezes at bootup
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Saik: Have you tried the nomodeset kernel parameter?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | Saik
[06:41] <pp7> how do u set up copy-on-write using aufs or overlayfs?
[06:42] <Jordan_U> pp7: What is your end goal?
[06:43] <Saik> Jordan_U, I have no clue how to do that, but you've seen what this pc is. it should handle it without an issue
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Saik: See the link that ubottu sent you.
[06:43] <bazhang> Saik, there is a link, please read it
[06:43] <pp7> Jordan_U, to run any an app in an environment where i can delete all changes it made to disk
[06:44] <Jordan_U> pp7: Are you planning on making all of the root filesystem use this aufs overlay?
[06:45] <pp7> yes
[06:46] <moviebun> Has anyone tried Clonezilla with a hard drive containing Ubuntu 12.04? I have and it failed to create the image.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> pp7: Are you planning to reboot whenever you want to add or get rid of this overlay? Rolling back all changes to the root filesytem is likely to cause serious problems if you try to do it on a running system.
[06:46] <veebull> anyone here know how to get squid-deb-proxy *working* on 12.04?
[06:47] <pp7> Jordan_U, i will experiment first to figure the in's and out's of how it works, but first I just need to know how to do it
[06:47] <preetam> can anyone pls tell me after upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 my laptop does not go into the power off mode after shut down
[06:47] <veebull> or how to tell if it *is* working?
[06:49] <sabermonk> hi
[06:49] <sabermonk> i was trying to add a user to sudoers file
[06:50] <sabermonk> but i think i have made a mistake
[06:50] <sabermonk> now i m not able ti use sudo
[06:50] <sabermonk> it says parsing error on line 18 of sudoers file
[06:50] <sabermonk> how can i revert the changes?
[06:51] <Saik> the latest I have is 10.04
[06:51] <svg> sabermonk: did you use 'visudo' to edit the sudoers file?
[06:52] <Saik> would that be new enough?
[06:52] <sabermonk> svg: no i used vi
[06:54] <pp7> Jordan_U, still there?
[06:56] <DND> hi guys i need help. is there any program in ubuntu that can change the shown program per minute?
[06:56] <jpds> DND: Alt-Tab?
[06:57] <DND> like for example in advertisement tvs first you will see ad #1 then after 5 minutes you will see ad #2
[06:57] <DND> jpds, yes but i wanted to have it automated
[06:57] <jpds> That's a long TV ad.
[06:57] <DND> we wanted to show some live statistics but we are limited to a one 32" tv
[06:57] <DND> jpds, its just for an example :D
[06:58] <DND> you know when you go to malls you will see tvs that show ads
[06:58] <DND> but for us we wanted to have done on browsers
[07:01] <Jordan_U> pp7: do-release-upgrade does something like this, and seems to have an option to setup an aufs *chroot* which might be more what you want to do, see /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeAufs.py. Also, if you use btrfs then you can simply use snapshots and probably make your life a lot easier.
[07:01] <pp7> hmm
[07:02] <moviebun> Looks like I'll be sticking with 10.04 until I can find a way of backing up 12.04 entirely
[07:02] <DND> moviebun, DD?
[07:03] <pp7> Jordan_U, can u point me to a tutorial or something, preferably something that has a commandline example :P
[07:05] <Jordan_U> pp7: I doubt you're going to find one for aufs, it's more a tool meant to be used by those developing LiveCDs. For btrfs though you probably can find good guides, try asking in #btrfs.
[07:05] <linuxfreaker> Anyone who can help me with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/134147/running-ubuntu-on-uefi-mode
[07:06] <pp7> Jordan_U, thx
[07:06] <Jordan_U> pp7: You're welcome.
[07:06] <lorddelta> ...so...do I need gtk2 for anything?
[07:07] <lorddelta> Cause looks like I've got an old gtk theme that's screwing with plasma somehow...Ubuntu Unity doesn't work, I liked my KDE desktop anyhow...time to get rid of gtk2 apparently?
[07:07] <lorddelta> Or is there something I should know?
[07:09] <lorddelta> Also...there totally needs to be a way to google via cmd line.
[07:09] <lorddelta> (if there isn't already)
[07:11] <svg> sabermonk: You should have used visudo, it would have told you there was an error. You might try using it now to fix the issue, I'm not sure, but it might tell you what the problem is.
[07:11] <snapdata> Every time I start up Ubuntu (12.04) the first time I press enter (no matter what window I'm focused on, if any) it logs me out. When I log back in I can press enter without any hinderance. Any information related to this bug is greatly appreciated.
[07:12] <fidel> snapdata: does that happen only with 1 desktop-environment - or all?
[07:13] <snapdata> fidel: If you mean seperate accounts, I haven't created a second. I have however had to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 twice and the same issue reappeared after a few restarts (without installing any additional software)
[07:13] <moviebun> DND: Will DD backup the entire drive in a cloning fashion or is it just for data from programs? What I'm after is the same level of restorability that Clonezilla gives me - an entire disk image that can be restored to a new drive.
[07:13] <fidel> snapdata: well basically i ment unity, gnome-shell ....
[07:14] <snapdata> fidel: I only use the default.
[07:18] <safridzal> i want a theme for my kubuntu which not blue, any suggestion ? just finished install kubuntu
[07:20] <ktwo> safridzal, kde-look.org
[07:21] <safridzal> ktwo: ah,, ok thanks
[07:21] <safridzal> :D
[07:26] <moviebun> Remastersys was great in 10.04 - anyone using it in 12.04?
[07:29] <none> 12.04 is still quirky
[07:29] <none> looks pretty though
[07:31] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: u there?
[07:31] <chris__> yup
[07:36] <wifioregon> Could some please tell me the best way to record desktop from 12.04?
[07:36] <linuxfreaker> Anyone who tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareEnablementTeam/Documentation/FirmwareTestS uiteLive
[07:36] <wifioregon> I want to record everything I do on my desktop into a video
[07:39] <sary> wifioregon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4428/how-to-create-a-screencast https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[07:39] <popey> wifioregon: I would use kazam
[07:42] <linuxfreaker> Anyone who can help me with UEFI on Ubuntu 11.04
[07:42] <linuxfreaker> sorry 10.04
[07:42] <linuxfreaker> How shall I upgrade GRUB to 1.99
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> linuxfreaker, I can not help other then to say 11.04 is grub 2 it wont matter which version.
[07:44] <Oer> linuxfreaker, easy howto >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[07:45] <linuxfreaker> wilee-nilee: But if it is grub2 even then UEFI is not working..any idea
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> Oer, they are using grub 2 already unless the downloaded.
[07:46] <linuxfreaker> Oer: The main issue is how shall I make 11.04 work on UEFI ..ubuntu quotes it as it supports UEFI
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> linuxfreaker, if it was a mbr set up I could, but not a UEFI, I would post at the ubuntu forums, your getting sketchy help as of now here.
[07:46] <linuxfreaker> Oer: I am not finding help anywhere
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> linuxfreaker, you would at times on here start a thread at the ubuntu forum.
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> linuxfreaker, if you decide to post there, there is a specific script you would want to run to generate a text file to post in your thread.
[07:50] <Woet> i'm installing 10.04 LTS and I get 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed
[07:50] <Woet> console says "auto-detection of a file system module failed"
[07:50] <Woet> software RAID 1
[07:52] <Satisfied> i made it through a tenth of ripping my cd (150 so far) and realized this POS "ripper x" program isn't / cant write mp3 meta data to the files.    I would love to use Grip but apparently its a dead project.. anybody have a suggestion for a full featured cd ripping program?
[07:52] <Satisfied> sad thing is "Ripper x" has good reviews in the software center
[07:54] <bioman> hello :)
[07:56] <linuxman> hi, i have a problem
[07:56] <Woet> let's hope you get it solved
[07:56] <larsweb> really?
[07:56] <larsweb> really? ;-)
[07:57] <bioman> Have to install a DRBL with 12.04 server. Got some problems with networking. service networking status says "stop/waiting" but it works. Infact I have set a second network card (eth0:1). Since this I have "Waiting for network configuration" at boot. What's going on please ?
[07:59] <linuxman> when i copy some big file from ntfs file system system load goes up to 3 and then the computer restart
[08:01] <linuxman> i used top and it shows that mount.ntfs process uses up to 14% of cpu
[08:01] <linuxman> it's a core i7 960 as far as i know
[08:01] <Woet> linuxman: and why does your computer restart?
[08:02] <linuxman> i don't know. i think it's because of it's load average, which is go up to 3.3 and then it restarts
[08:02] <Woet> computers dont restart because of load average
[08:02] <Woet> they restart because there is a hardware issue or the temperature gets too high
[08:03] <linuxman> how can i check it's temperature
[08:03] <Woet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[08:04] <Woet> as far as I know, point 2 is not needed
[08:04] <ewikbog> I have this current situation: Need to RAID0 some disks and have uefi bios. Problem is; Graphic install doesn’t have software RAID and alternative does not  have UEFI bios partition support. WTH should I do? ubuntu 12.04 alpha1 worked fine!
[08:04] <bo> Hello all. I have some issues while building Perl from source. Is there anybody who can give some help here? I'm talking about installing perl-5.14.2 on xubuntu 12.04.
[08:05] <Woet> ewikbog: there is no more text based installer?
[08:05] <Woet> bo: no, there is nobody here who can give you help unless you ask your question.
[08:05] <none> text based installer never breaks
[08:05] <none> graphic based crap always breaks somehow
[08:05] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Are you able to run ubuntu on uefi mode
[08:05] <Woet> i'm not up to date with 12.04 but if it has a text installer, use it.
[08:05] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: yes in alpha1 yes
[08:06] <ewikbog> Woet: Alternative is text-based
[08:06] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: I tried installing ubuntu 11.10 on dell server on UEFI mode but it is just dislaying GRUB menu and goes blank
[08:06] <Woet> ewikbog: but why alternative? why not the default text based installer?
[08:06] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Any idea how to fix that?
[08:07] <ewikbog> Woet, linuxfreaker: I've tried alternative and graphic, none seems to have like the previous
[08:07] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Which hardware u r on?
[08:08] <Woet> ewikbog: but why alternative? why not the default text based installer?
[08:08] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: pretty new, x79 asus, 3 ssd PCI-e (requires 3.2.0 kernel)
[08:09] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Are you able to install ubuntu selecting UEFI mode?
[08:09] <ewikbog> yes, in graphical mode yes
[08:09] <ubuntuppuser> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04. The p key on my keyboard is broken and I'd like to use another key as my p key. How can this be done?
[08:09] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: in grapical yes, but does not support raid
[08:10] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: You mean it is not detecting hard disk right?
[08:10] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: use xmodmap
[08:10] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Can you tell me how to use it?
[08:10] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: its detecting the disks, but i need to raid0 9pcs of 60gb's
[08:11] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: in a terminal type: man xmodmap
[08:11] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Ohk...
[08:11] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: first , find out the key code you want to replace with , and to
[08:11] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: dont ask, pci-e ssd's are strange
[08:11] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: In my case I have dell r620 and its even not able to proceed next step after GRUB
[08:11] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: use xev to do that
[08:11] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: UEFI is not at all supported
[08:12] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Sorry, but I'm new to all this. How do I "use xev" to do that?
[08:12] <Threeseas> 12.04 sound is screwed and going through the launchpad registration doesn't allow using forwarded mail
[08:12] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: install it with apt-get install xev
[08:12] <stiv2k> what does ubuntu use for remote desktop sharing?
[08:12] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: and launch it in terminal , press the key , you'll see the corresponding key code , remember them
[08:13] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Unable to locate package xev
[08:13] <Threeseas> How many more versions before Ubuntu figures out ho0w to do sound?
[08:13] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: How do I press the key if it's broken?
[08:13] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker:  i've succesfully installed ubuntu 12.04 alpha1 on a system with uefi
[08:13] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: type 'xev' , see what the output is
[08:14] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: it will tell you the package to install
[08:14] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: keep in mind that grub does not support a partition smaller than raid0
[08:14] <llutz_> xev comes with x11-utils
[08:14] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: i think the key code are adjacent , e.g 'o' and 'p' s
[08:14] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: I am not able to do that on Dell hardware..I wonder what could be the issue
[08:14] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: not sure
[08:14] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: What does that mean? grub does not support a partition smaller than raid0
[08:15] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: 'xev' just shows me a bunch of text.
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: I have just one disk..
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: And I have made it RAID 0
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: Sorry I have two disks
[08:15] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: if /boot is located on a raid0 partition it will probably fail!
[08:15] <Threeseas> its not good to upgrade and face the same sort of problems but different enough where its a new thing
[08:15] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: I dont have anything installed on that hardware
[08:16] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: You don't need the keycode for the broken key, just the one you alter the function of.
[08:16] <ubuntuppuser> BlueEagle: Ah, got it.
[08:17] <branant> #android-central
[08:17] <branant> oops /j was missing
[08:17] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Please help.
[08:17] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: did you want me ?
[08:17] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: as i said; if you have joined two disks with raid0, and have /boot in that /dev/md0 then grub will fail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880527
[08:17] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: I need your help or suggestion
[08:17] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: with what ?
[08:17] <bioman> please tell me why "service networking status" returns "networking stop/waiting"
[08:18] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: Did you read the manual page? If you stil need help please be more spesific with what you need help with.
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> ewikbog: I have no OS..nothing on the RAID..this is the first time I am going to install Ubuntu on fresh RAID disk..
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: the same old issue
[08:18] <stiv2k> i need xrdp to connect from windows 7?
[08:18] <ubuntuppuser> BlueEagle: It's like a whole new language to me. I don't even know what the first step is.
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: ubuntu on UEFI mode
[08:18] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: you need to be specific - what do you want help with
[08:18] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134147/running-ubuntu-on-uefi-mode
[08:19] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: don't want to read a thread - what do you want help with
[08:19] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: I am unable to install Ubuntu 11.10 on uEFI mode
[08:20] <ewikbog> linuxfreaker: you need a /boot/efi partion!
[08:20] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: sorry , i'm setting up my arch linux
[08:20] <panesar_sandeep> hi i am having a problem in ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition installed on my lenovo g460. its usb points are not detecting anything connected via usb. during start up too it sort of hangs in there. then when i press Esc and then in cui i press Ctrl+Alt+Del it says sopmething about system bus failure and then continues booting.
[08:20] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: ok - you said earlier you where using raid on this machine (reading hte scroll back) correct/not
[08:20] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: let me find an example for you
[08:20] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: The first step is to learn how to read the manual I guess. If you check the heading "Synopsis" you will see how the command is executed `xmodmap [-options ...] [filname]` with a description that sais that the file name is a given file with the changes.
[08:20] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Thanks.
[08:21] <ubuntuppuser> BlueEagle: Hold on...
[08:21] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: maybe there's some GUI tools
[08:21] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: Now if you check the options you will find that -e allows you to directly execute an expression. Also check the examples for example expressions.
[08:21] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: xkeycaps
[08:21] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: is this available in Ubuntu ?
[08:21] <ubuntuppuser> BlueEagle: Trying to read. Give me a minute or two.
[08:21] <BlueEagle> !info xkeycaps | hoyt
[08:22] <ewikbog> Woet linuxfreaker: i've solved it, use a daily build of ubuntu
[08:22] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: Yeah, using Hoyts suggestion will allow you to achieve what you want without understanding how it's done. :)
[08:22] <lorddelta> So call me flippant, but anyhow I decided to give Unity another go...
[08:22] <lorddelta> however...
[08:22] <BlueEagle> !enter | lorddelta
[08:23] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: BlueEagle: And xkeycaps is already installed?
[08:23] <panesar_sandeep> hi i am having a problem in ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition installed on my lenovo g460. its usb points are not detecting anything connected via usb. during start up too it sort of hangs in there. then when i press Esc and then in cui i press Ctrl+Alt+Del it says sopmething about system bus failure and then continues booting. pls help.
[08:23] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: Most likely not: apt-get install xkeycaps
[08:23] <lorddelta> I uninstalled all the gtk stuff in attempt to figure out what was going wrong, turns out I had some old bad libraries in /usr/local, deleted those, been re-installing stuff and stuff works again. Only, I can seem to get Unity window decorations to show up. Ideas? I have mutter installed...
[08:24] <Hoyt> panesar_sandeep: most likely there's no enough room in /run/ , not sure
[08:24] <BlueEagle> panesar_sandeep: It would help if you told us what that "something about system bus failure" was exactly. You see when developers write error messages they usually write them to help pinpoint the root cause.
[08:24] <panesar_sandeep> hoyt: there is lots of space. almost 150 Gb space is there
[08:25] <Hoyt> panesar_sandeep: last time I saw chromium quits because of bus failure , was caused by that.. also it's a ramdisk , not your HDD partition ...
[08:25] <ubuntuppuser> BlueEagle: Installation finished, but xkeycaps is nowhere to be found...
[08:25] <lorddelta> BlueEagle: sorry, its late. Question still stands
[08:26] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: press "Win" key , and type in the command in unity , and press "Enter"
[08:26] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: Yes, that's what I tried.
[08:28] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: launch gnome-terminal ,
[08:28] <BlueEagle> lorddelta: The easiest way to restore the system is to install ubuntu-desktop (or ubuntu-standard) as it depends on all packages that make up the ubuntu desktop system.
[08:28] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: and ty9e in the command
[08:28] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: What command?
[08:28] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: xkeyca9s
[08:28] <lorddelta> BlueEagle: Good point. I'll look at its dependencies. :)
[08:28] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: oo9s , my keyboard ma99ing is corru9ted
[08:28] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: That worked.
[08:28] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: will be back
[08:28] <BlueEagle> Hoyt: Did you change your p for a 9?
[08:29] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: and right click on the key you want to 'exchange' ,
[08:31] <ubuntuppuser> Hoyt: BlueEagle: What is a good key to sacrifice?
[08:32] <ubuntuppuser> Some key near p.
[08:32] <Hoyt> ubuntuppuser: maybe scroll lock
[08:33] <Hoyt> i made capslock another ctrl all the time
[08:33] <ubuntuppuser> Maybe alt+o can be p?
[08:34] <BlueEagle> ubuntuppuser: You will have to decide that all by yourself.
[08:34] <KM0201> whats the key combination to kill X now?
[08:34] <Hoyt> KM0201: there's no default key combination set
[08:34]  * KM0201 wishes it was still ctrl alt backspace
[08:34] <KM0201> Hoyt: really?
[08:34] <Hoyt> KM0201: use System Settings to do that now
[08:34] <KM0201> oh ok.
[08:34] <Hoyt> KM0201: that happens since 9.10
[08:34] <llutz_> KM0201: alt-sysrq-k
[08:35] <Hoyt> KM0201: if i recall correctly
[08:35] <KM0201> llutz: i knew there was a default one involving alt-sysrq
[08:35] <KM0201> Hoyt: i think it was like 10.04.. but.. it's been a while since i actively used ubuntu
[08:36] <KM0201> sweet, control alt backspace is back.
[08:36] <llutz_> KM0201: that change came from upstream xorg, not ubuntu
[08:37] <KM0201> llutz: i just know that it annoyed me.
[08:37] <KM0201> lol
[08:37] <GuySoft> hey all, does anyone know where i can get "openssl_1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.2_amd64.deb" ? I need the older version
[08:38] <KM0201> !packages | GuySoft
[08:39] <Oer> KM0201, "hard log out" = right alt + printscreen + K
[08:40] <KM0201> Oer: its ok, i just enabled cntrl alt backspace
[08:40] <KM0201> Oer: i always thought it was stupid to change it from cntrl alt backspace anyway
[08:40] <GuySoft> KM0201, that package is two versions back. I am trying to locolize a posible bug that was created a version ago.
[08:41] <KM0201> GuySoft: it should still be on packages.ubuntu.com  just search by ubuntu version (they have packages going back to hardy)
[08:41] <Hoyt> GuySoft: you're trying to install some non-official packages , so you need the older version ?
[08:43] <GuySoft> Hoyt, no i am trying to compile qt with ssl. and version 4.2.2 seems to fail with the current ssl version. I worked two weeks ago so i am pretty sure its the last two upgrades that caused it
[08:44] <GuySoft> and its a problem finding that spesific version because ubuntu repos dont store versions on that resolution.
[08:45] <Hoyt> GuySoft: ok , so compile your customized openssl , and specify link flags
[08:45] <GuySoft> Hoyt, i need it to be static.
[08:45] <Hoyt> GuySoft: of course
[08:45] <Hoyt> GuySoft: statically compile openssl , and link the ".a" files
[08:46] <GuySoft> Hoyt, ah, well I am trying to avoid that
[08:46] <Hoyt> GuySoft: i'm confused
[08:47] <GuySoft> Hoyt, ah wait, you might be right.
[08:47] <Hoyt> GuySoft: i've done this before , there's some option in qt's configure script IIRC
[08:48] <GuySoft> Hoyt, I am just using openssl for other stuff here. so it got me confused
[08:48] <GuySoft> Hoyt, wait what? an option to do what?
[08:49] <GuySoft> Hoyt, perhaps you might recognize the compile error? its reported around the net but no one seems to answer how to solve it (apart from disabline ssl)
[08:49] <Hoyt> GuySoft: ./configure -help | less
[08:49] <Hoyt> GuySoft: maybe , not guaranteed
[08:49] <ferni> GuySoft: do you still have the old .deb locally at /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[08:50] <Hoyt> GuySoft: yeah , if you still have it , you can hold it for updates
[08:50] <GuySoft> Hoyt, http://nopaste.dk/p5088
[08:50] <GuySoft> Hoyt, an option to do what?
[08:51] <Hoyt> GuySoft: choose the openssl version to use
[08:51] <GuySoft> Hoyt, we can do that? hang on
[08:51] <Hoyt> GuySoft: i'm not sure , check it by ./configure -help | less
[08:51] <ferni> GuySoft: also, the changelog may contain information related to your problem http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.5/changelog
[08:52] <Kruptein> Hey my second monitor is not detected by the System Settings>Screens window  I always have to go to the nvidia configuration to activate it,  are there any known solutions for this?
[08:53] <GuySoft> Hoyt, i did. only yes no or linked
[08:53] <GuySoft> ferni, the problem is not the changelog, is to get the actual older package :)
[08:53] <fidel> Kruptein: just curious: what login-manager & window-environment are you using?
[08:54] <Kruptein> fidel: just greeter+unity
[08:55] <fidel> Kruptein: lightdm & unity ok. in case you might have kdm & kde installed - it might be interesting to define kdm temporaly the primary login-manager. this solved my dualo-monitor setup which was similar to yours (while i dont login to kde itsef -> gnome-shell)
[08:55] <fidel> its for sure not a real solution - but i was to lazy to mess around with xorg conf at that point where i noticed kdm & gnome-shell did everything i needed out of the box
[08:56] <fidel> in case you have it already installed - maybe worth a try . otherwise for sure not
[08:56] <ferni> GuySoft: yeah, well do you have the older package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? seems you can at least 1.0.0e-2ubuntu4 from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/
[08:57] <Kruptein> fidel I quite like lightdm :(
[08:57] <GuySoft> ferni, no the building is done here on chroot, the package cache is not saved
[08:57] <Kruptein> it's just strange that ubuntu does not detect that I have a second monitor
[08:58] <fidel> dual-monitor-handling seems pretty much (half) broken  right now - at leasts thats how it was here
[09:02] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[09:03] <GeorgeJ> As far as I can tell, Ubuntu comes bundled with vim. Doing a vim --version tells me I got VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3, howver, there is no vim command.
[09:03] <GeorgeJ> Why is that?
[09:03] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: vi is a symlink to vim
[09:04] <GeorgeJ> I know it is. But why is vim not available?
[09:04] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: "vi improved = vim"
[09:04] <GeorgeJ> I know.
[09:04] <Kruptein> vim is not installed by default vi is
[09:04] <GeorgeJ> vi is a symlink to vim, how is vim not installed?
[09:04] <Kruptein> it's not on my system
[09:04] <Kruptein> fresh install
[09:04] <Kruptein> can't do the vim --version command either
[09:04] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: the binary is called "vi" on most systems for legacy reasons
[09:05] <GeorgeJ> I know, but, how can vi be a symlink to vim if vim is not installed?
[09:05] <Kruptein> yh was wrong
[09:05] <Kruptein> vim is just installed under command vi
[09:05] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: it's not symlinked any more like it used to be
[09:05] <ikonia> the binary is valled vi
[09:05] <GeorgeJ> ikonia: It is on 12.04
[09:05] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: what is
[09:06] <GeorgeJ> which vi == /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[09:06] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: right, so there you go, /usr/bin/vim.tiny is the binary you are linked to
[09:06] <Kruptein> which vi = /usr/bin/vi  on my fresh isntall
[09:06] <GeorgeJ> which vi == /usr/bin/vin -> /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny Sorry.
[09:06] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: ok, so the binary is vim.tiny
[09:07] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[09:07] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[09:07] <ikonia> CrazyGangster: no
[09:07] <GeorgeJ> I'm only asking because, vim seems to be installed, why should I installed the package vim, then?
[09:08] <GeorgeJ> There-s a difference between vim and vim-tiny?
[09:08] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: what are you talking about,
[09:08] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Sorry left for soemtime
[09:08] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: you have a vim build on your system, do you want to change it ?
[09:08] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: My dell poweredge machine is configured with RAID correct
[09:08] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: what raid level
[09:08] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: RAID 0
[09:08] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: hardware or software raid ?
[09:09] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Hardware RAID..there is no OS as of now in that hardware
[09:09] <CrazyGangster> ikonia: how you know?
[09:09] <GeorgeJ> ikonia: Well, I now realised vi, on a fresh Ubuntu install is just a symlink to vim-tiny
[09:09] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: is it fake raid (dm raid) or true hardware raid
[09:09] <GeorgeJ> Perhaps there's a difference between the vim-tiny and vim packages.
[09:09] <ikonia> CrazyGangster: what's the point of asking if you are going to question the answer,
[09:10] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: there is,
[09:10] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: TRue Hardware RAID created pressing Ctrl+R > Deleted the old RAID > Created a new one with 2 physical disk
[09:10] <llutz_> GeorgeJ: sudo apt-get install vim     if you want the "full vim"
[09:10] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: That is on R620 machine
[09:10] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: that doesn't meant it's true hardware raid
[09:10] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: what raid controller is it
[09:10] <Avishek12> who wanna to chat with me?
[09:10] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: PERC H310
[09:11] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: ok, so is that a hostbased raid controller, or a true hardware raid device ?
[09:11] <fidel> Avishek12: this is a support-channel - consider #ubuntu-offtopic for "chat"
[09:11] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Thats corresponds to LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240
[09:11] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: ok, so is that a hostbased raid controller, or a true hardware raid device ?
[09:11] <safridzal> hello, need help here, do i need to run aticonfig --initial after install fglrx-updates on my precise ??
[09:11] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Thats PERC Card..
[09:11] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: that means nothing
[09:12] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: is it a host based raid solution or a true hardware raid card
[09:12] <safridzal> i've read somewhere ubuntu dont need aticonfig --initial
[09:12] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: a true hardware RAID Card
[09:12] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: are you sure ?
[09:12] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: yes
[09:13] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Let me confirm once
[09:13] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/pvaul/topics/en/us/raid_controller?c=us&l=en
[09:13] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: not asking for links
[09:13] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Thats host based
[09:14] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: I'm asking you to confrim if it's a true hardware raid controller or host based
[09:14] <cousteau> Is it safe to use `sudo -H` with graphical programs?  (the ones that might have problems if you use them with just sudo)
[09:14] <DJones> !gksudo | cousteau
[09:15] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: is your card hardware or host based raid
[09:15] <cousteau> I mean, is the only problem of using sudo that it may (over)write files on $HOME and thus change their permissions?  because in that case, sudo -H would be fine
[09:16] <cousteau> since it changes the $HOME to root's
[09:16] <ikonia> (fake raid)
[09:16] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Thats hardware card which I inserted in R720 board
[09:16] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: not what I asked
[09:16] <cousteau> I say this because I'm considering adding   alias sudo='sudo -H'   to my .bashrc
[09:16] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: please answer the question, is the card a true hardware raid card, or a host raid card (fake raid)
[09:16] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: How to know that?
[09:17] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: you research your model and read the specifications
[09:17] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: All i can see is its hardware card I inserted into slot
[09:17] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: if it has it's own processor to deal with the raid, it's hardware,if it uses your systems cpu, it's host raid
[09:17] <genii-around> ikonia: I have one of those, it's hardware RAID
[09:17] <ikonia> genii-around: thank you
[09:17] <linuxfreaker> genii-around: thnx
[09:18] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: so the raid level / card should not be a factor here
[09:18] <genii-around> np
[09:18] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: ok
[09:18] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: the factor you need to concern your self with is the grub component and the partition layout (making the efi partitions etc)
[09:18] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: What shud be the approach
[09:19] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: I too guess it is GRUB issue
[09:19] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: exactly what I've just said, create the correct partition layout for efi
[09:19] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: then install using the efi compatible grub (I believe 10.04 and later support it - but check)
[09:19] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: you should have no problems at that point
[09:19] <DND> hi guys
[09:20] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: I have Ubuntu 10.04 DVD...how to install it before installing the ubuntu
[09:20] <DND> is there any more much lighter than Unity 2d?
[09:20] <auronandace> !lubuntu | DND
[09:20] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: One thing more
[09:20] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: you use the partition tool to create the partitions before install
[09:20] <fidel> DND: xfce maybe
[09:21] <alex88> hello guys, if i want to instally only the php5-mysqlnd package from 12.04 on 11.10, how can i do that?
[09:21] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: I pressed F11 > Selected UEFI > DVD > browse to efi/boot/bootx64.efi > GRUB gets displayed > Blank screen
[09:22] <auronandace> alex88: you don't mix releases packages
[09:22] <DND> fidel, there's no xfce in the options. only Unity and Unity 2d
[09:22] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: you need to partition your disk to be efi laid out
[09:22] <DND> so i need to install it in apt?
[09:22] <auronandace> !xfce | DND
[09:22] <linuxfreaker> ikonia: Do u mean I need to create it through running LiveCD
[09:22] <fidel> DND: you havent asked for pre-installed ...have you?
[09:22] <ikonia> linuxfreaker: yes
[09:22] <alex88> auronandace, so long dpkg rebuild way? :/
[09:23] <ilembitov> Anyone using Acer Aspire S3? How is the touchpad support with 12.04?
[09:23] <auronandace> alex88: not sure sorry
[09:23] <fidel> ilembitov: running a live-cd might give you a first impression in case no-one inhere is using that specific hw
[09:24] <hendri> hallo
[09:24] <alex88> ilembitov, seems so http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+s3
[09:24] <DND> fidel how do i ask the bot some questions?
[09:24] <ikonia> DND: send it a pm
[09:24] <DND> !bot
[09:24] <DND> lol
[09:25] <ilembitov> alex88: Seen that article. "right click binded to two finger tap" is not good. Besides, that page does not mention 12.04 or kernel 3.3
[09:25] <alex88> ilembitov, true that
[09:26] <jussi> So Im installing ubuntu on a lattitude xt2, and am getting an error saying "ubi-usersetup failed with exit code 1" any thoughts?
[09:26] <ilembitov> fidel: yeah, I know, but I'd have to get my hands on a real unit for that. I'm actually just doing some fact-checking for an article =)
[09:26] <fidel> ;)
[09:28] <DND> wow its a good thing 12.04 did not removed any legacy drivers esp the agp video cards
[09:31] <lorddelta> BlueEagle: Still here? I tried installing the full Ubuntu Desktop packages...it works for 5 seconds before everything blacks out.
[09:31] <lorddelta> And then it stays black.
[09:38] <userprecise> how do i keep system monitor tray icon expanded all the time on kubuntu desktop
[09:41] <qweqweqwe> hey, how can I stop the bongo drums at login?
[09:42] <qweqweqwe> at the password screen that is
[09:43] <jpds> qweqweqwe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/949782/comments/6
[09:45] <userprecise> how do i keep system monitor tray icon expanded all the time on kubuntu desktop
[09:47] <steveccc> I have a cd which my machine is struggling to copy files off. It could be a faulty cd but I wondered if there was any software which would try to correct the errors on reading instead of failing instantly
[09:48] <kami^> hi all
[09:48] <steveccc> a bit like a slower read or a multiple read
[09:49] <kami^> can i ask some question about ubuntu ? (i am a newbie)
[09:49] <_ruben> !ask
[09:50] <wilee-nilee> kami^, this is support but rather slow go for it. :)
[09:50] <TvL2386> !patience
[09:51] <kami^> ok so i try, i am an old version of ubuntu and they say me that is better to upgrade to new version. that means that i am reformat my pc or just make un upgrade ??
[09:51] <kami^> (im italian)
[09:51] <cousteau> kami^, no need to format
[09:52] <fidel> kami^: what version are you running right now?
[09:52] <kami^> fidel:  how i can see ? i think 10...
[09:52] <wilee-nilee> kami^, what version is installed right now?
[09:52] <fidel> kami^: in terminal: lsb_release -a
[09:52] <kami^> fidel:  10.010
[09:53] <wilee-nilee> kami^, 10.10?
[09:53] <kami^> yes
[09:53] <cousteau> maybe it would be easier to just reinstall
[09:53] <cousteau> do you have /home on a separate partition?
[09:53] <fidel> wilee-nilee: after 10.10 there is 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 (current Long term support version)
[09:53] <fidel> erm that was supposed for kami^
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> kami^, that is end of life but can be upgraded follow this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:54] <kami^> yes but im not so good for doing this kind of stuff alone
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> fidel, why are you telling me this?
[09:54] <fidel> wilee-nilee: read the line after that line - it was a wrong nick-usage
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> fidel, ah no biggie, lol
[09:56] <kami^> thanks fidel   wilee-nilee and cousteau , i will try to do the upgrade
[09:56] <steveccc> cousteau: is there a best way to reinstall and then reintroduce your /home partition. do you just reinstall and then modify the fstab to mount your separate home instead of the home - are there any issues with using the same username or is it better to create a new user and then simply copy the files from one users directory to the other
[09:57] <cousteau> steveccc, on the installer there's an option to use the partition where you have your home as /home, and then you specify not to format it
[09:57] <cousteau> and I just use the same username
[09:57] <Guest58239> Hi all
[09:58] <steveccc> conusteau: i have done that before but I thought I got permission problems - I resolved them but it made me wonder if it was the best method - obviously it is
[09:58] <steveccc> if I want to encrypt a whole disk I know ubuntu has its own methods to do this but there is also truecrypt - is there an advantage of one over another?
[10:00] <kami^> sorry just another think, the upgrade managment say that i can release to ubuntu 11.04 is that the newest version ?
[10:01] <steveccc> kami^: 12.04 is the latest
[10:03] <cousteau> 11.04 is the version you can directly upgrade to if you're using 10.10
[10:03] <kami^> cousteau: i will do this
[10:04] <kami^> the easy way is the best way if you are a newbie
[10:04] <cousteau> if you want to upgrade to 12.04 you either have to reinstall or do the upgrade step by step:  10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[10:04] <cousteau> (I'd recommend reinstalling)
[10:04] <cousteau> (specially if your /home is separate)
[10:05] <kami^> i think is separatly but i don't know
[10:05] <kami^> a friend install me ubuntu
[10:05] <cousteau> mount | grep home
[10:05] <maytz> unless he has a lot of time..
[10:06] <cousteau> if you type   mount | grep home   on a terminal and get a line like   /dev/sda5 on /home type ext4 (rw)   then your home is separate
[10:06] <Kartagis> kami^: type what cousteau typed
[10:07] <kami^> where ?
[10:07] <kami^> in terminal ?
[10:07] <cousteau> on a terminal
[10:07] <Kartagis> kami^: yes
[10:07] <cousteau> Ctrl-Alt-T
[10:08] <kami^> he say  gvfs-fuse-daemon on home/lucas/.gvfs ...
[10:08] <cousteau> only that?
[10:09] <cousteau> then no, your home is not separate
[10:09] <cousteau> I don't know how to upgrade without a separate home, sorry...  (it probably can be done, but I don't know the exact procedure)
[10:09] <kami^> type fuse.gvfs-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=lucas)
[10:09] <Qasaur> Hey guys
[10:09] <Qasaur> I have a problem
[10:10] <Qasaur> A horrible problem :|
[10:10] <kami^> ok, so i make the upgrade
[10:10] <cousteau> if your home were separate you'd have another line saying something like   /dev/sd?? on /home type ?????
[10:10] <Qasaur> I can't seem to download updates and stuff from the software center nor any other repositories
[10:10] <cousteau> Qasaur, do we have 3 guesses?
[10:10] <Qasaur> and this only happens in school
[10:10] <cousteau> ok
[10:10] <Qasaur> It's obviously something to do with the network and I'm trying to figure out what it is
[10:11] <cousteau> Qasaur, what Ubuntu version and what are your repositories?
[10:11] <Qasaur> 12.04 and Main
[10:11] <cousteau> main server?
[10:11] <Qasaur> no main repository
[10:11] <cousteau> I mean, what server are you using?
[10:11] <Qasaur> Lemme check
[10:12] <Qasaur> Main server
[10:12] <Qasaur> Like I said, this only happens on the school network
[10:12] <Qasaur> Is the ports blocked or something?
[10:13] <cousteau> less /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <Qasaur> huh?
[10:13] <cousteau> I think it uses normal http, so I don't think it's a port problem
[10:13] <cousteau> (the port for repositories is 80, right?)
[10:13] <muelli> well. I actually know many university networks where plain HTTP is not allowed.
[10:13] <Blank123> Hey guys, I got a problem with my Live USB Ubuntu, when I try to boot it, all what comes is "Verifying DMI pool data.....succes...", it never continues, any ideas?
[10:13] <Qasaur> This is a small school, not university
[10:13] <muelli> simple check: telnet yourself to google.com port 80 and check whether it connects
[10:14] <Qasaur> alright
[10:14] <cousteau> muelli, why not telnet archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:14] <cousteau> Qasaur, to know which server you're using:   grep -m 1 ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:14] <muelli> cousteau: because it's more typing work ;-) Other than that: No reason
[10:14] <Qasaur> Unable to connect
[10:14] <muelli> there you go
[10:15] <cousteau> weird
[10:15] <Qasaur> I typed : telnet archive.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <cousteau> telnet archive.ubuntu.com 80
[10:15] <muelli> nah Qasaur. telnet google.com www
[10:15] <Qasaur> yep that works
[10:15] <cousteau> muelli, "www" instead of 80?  didn't know that
[10:15] <Taneb> How can I make there a button in the Unity thingy that appears when I press flag for a command-line command?
[10:15] <muelli> Qasaur: and then type "GET /" and hit enter a few times and check whether the response is google.
[10:16] <muelli> cousteau: the ports have a "name" which is defined in /etc/services
[10:16] <Qasaur> muelli: What do you mean?
[10:17] <muelli> Qasaur: in the connected telnet session, issue a GET request yourself, to check whether your network presents you a proxy page or indeed the real google.
[10:17] <Qasaur> How do I issue a GET request?
[10:17] <cousteau> muelli, oooh, I see...  cause maybe there's some sort of "web trap" that makes you enter a fake page to log in before you can access real internet
[10:17] <muelli> Qasaur: type "GET /" in the telnet session.
[10:17] <Qasaur> I did
[10:17] <Qasaur> didn't get any response
[10:18] <Qasaur> google closed the connection a few seconds later
[10:18] <muelli> well Qasaur. Try again, being quicker.
[10:18] <cousteau> when you open internet, do you just get internet, or some sort of "Login" page?
[10:18] <Qasaur> so when I telnet into google I just type "GET /"?
[10:18] <cousteau> yep
[10:18] <muelli> well cousteau. moot question, because it might automatically find the proxy settings.
[10:19] <Qasaur> alright I typed GET /
[10:19] <Qasaur> no response
[10:19] <muelli> so "wget -O-" or "links2" might be a proper way to test.
[10:19] <Qasaur> and connection closed
[10:20] <Qasaur> So now what?
[10:20] <cousteau> hmm
[10:20] <mi_jimmy> hmm
[10:20] <cousteau> wget www.google.com -O- >/dev/null
[10:21] <cousteau> I think you should get a lot of IPs starting with 173.194.
[10:21] <Qasaur> What am I looking for?
[10:21] <Qasaur> It connected to a few IPs
[10:21] <muelli> hm, i'd not redirect it to /dev/null but let it spit the stuff into the terminal and check whether the page looks indeed like google's.
[10:22] <cousteau> "Resolving www.google.com (www.google.com)... 173.194.34.210"
[10:22] <DreadKnight> hey guys, requesting some financial support for #AncientBeast (www.AncientBeast.com), it's foss/creative commons/gpl, PvP TBS from the browser (HoMM3 style); spare change goes a long way
[10:22] <Qasaur> cousteau: Yeah
[10:22] <Qasaur> It's been resolving to a few IPs
[10:23] <Qasaur> all of them beginning with 172.194
[10:23] <wilee-nilee> DreadKnight, that is considered spam this is ubuntu support
[10:23] <Qasaur> 173*
[10:23] <cousteau> do you get that IP?  or some other IPs beginning with 173.194?
[10:23] <cousteau> ok then
[10:23] <DreadKnight> wilee-nilee, thanks; sorry, posted in offtopic
[10:23] <muelli> well. the IPs don't really matter if the network interceps that.
[10:23] <muelli> so one has to look at the actual output of the wget.
[10:24] <cousteau> what about using https on firefox to check if the certificate is valid?
[10:24] <stars69> hi, have anyone here run eggdrop under 12.04? I missing some .tcl files where can i find it?
[10:24] <Qasaur> Uh OK
[10:24] <Qasaur> Wait what do you mean
[10:24] <muelli> probably possible. but adding more layers of complexity to investigate an issue is often not helpful
[10:24] <Qasaur> I connect to Google using HTTPS?
[10:24] <beppe> A
[10:24] <Ben64> have you tried ping?
[10:25] <Qasaur> Ping google?
[10:25] <Ben64> yeah
[10:25] <Qasaur> It works
[10:25] <muelli> Qasaur: just remove the "> /dev/null" and scan your terminal for google's page. Or whether there is smth related to your school
[10:25] <Qasaur> but I'm not receiving a response from google.com
[10:25] <Ben64> well then its not working
[10:26] <Qasaur> I think it's from the Node
[10:27] <Qasaur> But I mean
[10:27] <Qasaur> I can access google on firefox as usual
[10:27] <Ben64> can you get to http://www.ben64.com/ip.php
[10:27] <Qasaur> Yes
[10:27] <solden> hello
[10:28] <cousteau> Qasaur, does this page work when you go to it using firefox or whatever?   http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <muelli> well. as I've said. Firefox might autmatically find proxy settings. So wget is the way to measure things.
[10:28] <Qasaur> Yeah archive.ubuntu.com works
[10:28] <Qasaur> it shows the default apache file browser thing
[10:29] <Ben64> do you have nmap installed
[10:29] <Qasaur> Don't think so
[10:29] <Qasaur> Nope I dont.
[10:30] <muelli> O_o well Qasaur. Does the wget get you anything at all then..?
[10:30] <Qasaur> What do you mean?
[10:30] <Qasaur> Should I wget a random file?
[10:30] <Ben64> do "wget google.com"
[10:30] <muelli> and what's your problem anyway? :D I didn't relly read what you were trying to do and what the issue was anyway.
[10:31] <Ben64> muelli: from what i can tell, internet works on firefox, and nothing else
[10:31] <Qasaur> muelli: I couldn't download anything from the repositories
[10:31] <muelli> Qasaur: how do you know?
[10:31] <Qasaur> I tried
[10:31] <Ben64> try wget
[10:31] <Qasaur> I can't download anything from the Sotware Center
[10:31] <muelli> Qasaur: may I guess what you've tried and what the error was? Or will you tell us?
[10:31] <Ben64> it'll tell you if it tries to get redirected or anything
[10:31] <Qasaur> What am I looking for here? I did wget google.com
[10:32] <Ben64> what was the output
[10:32] <Qasaur> Should I pastebin it?
[10:32] <Ben64> sure
[10:33] <Qasaur> http://pastebin.com/iNBqrTb2
[10:33] <Qasaur> The output ^
[10:33] <alex88> i've added this repo https://launchpad.net/~bjori/+archive/php5 but from apt-cache showpkg i can't see the version of that package, doing a apt-get source php5 it downloads that source..what's wrong?
[10:33] <Qasaur> brb
[10:33] <linocisco> how can I get myname@ubuntu.com mail box?
[10:34] <jiltdil> When Loging to ubuntu , the login sound is misisng. How to fix this?
[10:34] <muelli> hm Qasaur. looks good to me. Open that index.html in a browser and check whether it's google's page.
[10:35] <nsnellma> is there any way to do one-click workspace switching in Unity?
[10:35] <Qasaur> Where is index.html located on my computer?
[10:35] <alex88> linocisco, you should be a very active contributor, helping a lot and being friendly with admins :)
[10:35] <linocisco> alex88, why can you be so sure?
[10:36] <nailora> i have a plain text file and i'd rather not store it in plain text, but encrypt it somehow. high security is not very important, more important is that i can simply open the file, where i am asked for a password, then edit the text and saving automatically works with encryption? any ideas?
[10:37] <fabi_an> did 12.04 fuck up anyone else's grub on LVM on RAID as well?
[10:37] <LjL> !language | fabi_an
[10:37] <Qasaur> nailora: I don't know but you could probably write a shell script
[10:38] <KM0201> nailora: kinda overkill, but LibreOffice/Open Office, will both password protect a document like you say (i keep a couple spreadsheets that way)
[10:38] <fabi_an> did 12.04 break anyone else's grub on LVM on RAID as well?
[10:39] <muelli> Qasaur: type pwd to find out
[10:39] <Qasaur> muelli: Huh?
[10:39] <Ulysses_> hey all
[10:39] <muelli> Qasaur: to find where the downloaded index.html is
[10:39] <auronandace> nsnellma: would be lovely to have that
[10:39] <Qasaur> also
[10:39] <Qasaur> muelli: It works
[10:40] <Qasaur> except the image
[10:40] <auronandace> nsnellma: the closest i've got is if the workspace already has an app on it you can click the app to go to that workspace
[10:40] <Qasaur> that doesn't work
[10:40] <muelli> Qasaur: k. then what did you try to install?
[10:40] <Qasaur> anything really
[10:40] <nailora> KM0201: any information (link) on the LO encryption?
[10:40] <muelli> Qasaur: Then do "apt-get install anything" and paste us the output
[10:40] <muelli> pastebin that is
[10:40] <Qasaur> even when I update the repository it doesn't work
[10:40] <Qasaur> allright
[10:40] <Qasaur> alright*
[10:41] <KM0201> nailora: it's not really encryption, it just password protects the document.
[10:41] <KM0201> i guess i misunderstood your question
[10:41] <Qasaur> wait what the f***
[10:41] <Qasaur> it works
[10:41] <Qasaur> I moved my compouter to another room
[10:41] <Qasaur> and tried
[10:41] <muelli> you're welcome ;-)
[10:41] <Qasaur> this room has another network
[10:41] <Qasaur> thanks muelli
[10:41] <userprecise> how do i keep system monitor tray icon expanded all the time on kubuntu desktop
[10:42] <Qasaur> wait heres a problem
[10:43] <Qasaur> I originally wanted to download a game
[10:43] <Qasaur> from another repository
[10:43] <Qasaur> oh and by the way I tried downloading and install nmmap and it worked
[10:43] <Qasaur> now I try to install spring (the game) and it doesn't
[10:46] <Qasaur> I'll paste the output here later
[10:46] <Qasaur> in fact
[10:46] <Qasaur> I give up
[10:46] <Qasaur> I shouldn't be playing in school anyway :P
[10:46] <Qasaur> Thanks for the help though
[10:46] <FloodBot1> Qasaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <Qasaur> bye!
[10:53] <stiv2k> how do i map a button on my keyboard to act as another button
[10:53] <cosimo_> ciao a tutto il chan
[10:55] <stiv2k> my laptops remote control seems to be picked up as keyboard strokes or something
[10:55] <stiv2k> i just want to make the left button behave like my keyboards num pad left
[10:55] <stiv2k> and right button behave like keyboard num pad right
[10:55] <stiv2k> etc
[10:55] <stiv2k> to use mousekeys
[10:56] <sturubinuru> Hi. I'm with Lubuntu. How can I verify if my system is totally translated in italian language?
[10:56] <christhisisgool> stiv2k: i dont think that this version of unity supports that. i may be wrong, but thats what happened to me when i tried to do that. have you heard of xfce? that is what im using right now and it is working fine.
[10:57] <sturubinuru> Because some software, which in my home pc are translated, in this pc are still in english
[10:57] <stiv2k> christhisisgool you mean gnome doesn't support it? or ubuntu doesn't
[10:58] <christhisisgool> stiv2k: the latest version of gnome and/or unity ( i havent had luck with either of them) do not support it. however various desktop environments do. one of those that I know of is called xfce.
[10:59] <christhisisgool> stv2k: but UBUNTU DOES support it. you simply need a different desktop environment.
[10:59] <cosimo_> xdcc
[11:00] <rebourn> hi, does ubuntu have a show desktop option (minimize all open windows and apps)
[11:03] <andrewb80> Hey guys I been trying to figure out how to configure my touch pad buttons. I am running 11.01 on a SonyVaio, and since I made the switch to Ubuntu from Windows, my left click doesnt work. I can double tap on touch pad but I can't use the left click. please help
[11:03] <Dr_willis> rebourn,  i saw a tweak at the webupd8 blog site that showed how to add one to the left side launcher panel
[11:03] <Dr_willis> rebourn, but i guess the trend these days is to fullscreen all the apps and just alt-tab a lot. :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> rebourn,  i think its a settin in the 'myunity' app in 12.04
[11:05] <rebourn> Dr_willis: i dont like that trend, I will give myunity a shot. Thanks
[11:06] <pops> Hi all, I need support for compiz (fr or en)
[11:07] <Dr_willis> rebourn,  cluttered desktops are so 1990's
[11:07] <pops> i had emerald, and did metacity --replace
[11:07] <pops> can't get back to emerald, howto ?
[11:08] <BlueEagle> !emerald | pops
[11:09] <pops> thanks BlueEagle, and with metacity, i don't have any effects, but I had some before the replace, how can I rollback ?
[11:11] <pops> in a previous install (ubuntustudio) i could select gtk-decorator, but it's not listed anymore, how can I have it listed ?
[11:12] <cosimo_> !list
[11:13] <Dr_willis> pops,  emerald --replace should restore it.. but emerald is worth getting away from
[11:13] <Dr_willis> pops,  and i think you can run 'gtk-decorator --replace' but its been ages since i last used emerald.
[11:14] <spajderix> hi
[11:14] <roger_black> i installed lkl by compiling it, i want to remove it, how to do it?
[11:15] <pops> gtk-decorator command not found...
[11:15] <spajderix> I have a problem with empathy and sending files over jabber. I've just upgraded (meaning fresh installed) from 10.04 to 12.04. It work without problems on previous version, but now I cannot get it to work. Is there anything special I have to do in configuration for this to work?
[11:17] <pops> how do I install gtk-decorator ?
[11:17] <user1> Hi Guys ,,,, good evening as per the IST
[11:18] <pops> libdecoration0 is installed in Synaptic, but nothing listed in compiz manager
[11:18] <user1> can anyone please let me the tool for online browsing history in ubuntu
[11:18] <user1> ?
[11:18] <andrewb80> Hey guys anyone know of a way to watch Netflix on Ubuntu, When I try to watch a video says that it doesnt support linux.
[11:20] <Dr_willis> user1,  what are you wanting exactly?
[11:20] <Dr_willis> andrewb80,  they dont support linux. Only way i know of is to run windows in a virtual machine instance.
[11:21] <andrewb80> To run a virtual machine do I need to actually have windows on my pc?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> ive heard rumors that google is  some how working on getting netflix supported in their browser on linux, or the googles  webbook thing.
[11:21] <user1> how to get online browsing history from all PCs in my office.. Please let me know any tool is there for monitoring it?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> andrewb80,  you install windows in the vm..
[11:21] <Dr_willis> user1,  you are the system admin for your office?
[11:22] <user1> how to get online browsing history from all PCs in my office.. Please let me know any tool is there for monitoring it?
[11:22] <andrewb80> Dr willis: is there any VM programs in the ubuntu store that are good?
[11:22] <Dr_willis> !vbox
[11:22] <KM0201> andrewb80: virtualbox is good.
[11:22] <user1> yes Dr wills
[11:23] <Dr_willis> user1,  then i belive you would need to set up some sort of forced proxy  for the network. but im not a net admin.
[11:23] <andrewb80> Dr Willis: Thank you. maybe you can answer my first question no one responded. Im trying to find where I can configure my touch pad on my Vaio. The left click doesnt work.
[11:23] <Dr_willis> andrewb80,  cheaper to go get a low end roku ;)  or a boxee box.
[11:23] <MarkiteN> user1: you can use a proxy server, I recommend you using Squid3 with SSL support
[11:24] <Dr_willis> andrewb80,  id check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make of laptop.
[11:25] <andrewb80> Dr Willis. Thank you. I will check that out
[11:26] <user1> thanks MarkiteN, Proxy is ok ...but we need to know what our employers doing in office...  and we need to know if anyone download any huge things and etc..,
[11:26] <MarkiteN> user1: yes I know, I'm doing it too for my office
[11:28] <MarkiteN> user1: search "mysar" for Squid, it will generate a detailed report per days, per computer, per user, where they go, what they downloaded, how much bandwith they used, and many more
[11:28] <MarkiteN> user1: and yet you can block some of the "restricted" sites to be opened at the office :)
[11:29] <droid-hack-attac> Rosha__   Piyush is it u.????
[11:29] <user1> MarkiteN_:  i am very appriciated you and thanks alot and kindly let me know the link if you have to get total information to install mysar
[11:33] <MarkiteN> user1: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysar/ .. you can download it first, and there will be installation instruction inside .. its about 250kb
[11:34] <user1> Thank you so much MarkiteN....
[11:34] <MarkiteN> your welcome user1
[11:34] <aassdd> a
[11:34] <tknz> Hey guys. Not sure if this is the right room but I've been experimenting with Ubuntu on VirtualBox. I've used the dynamically expanding vdi drive but I've seem to run out of space.. I always assumed this hard drive just expands automatically as it's used?
[11:38] <qawsedrf> hey guys someone good with domains and servers who can help me for 5-10 mins in private chat ?
[11:39] <Ben64> !pm | qawsedrf
[11:39] <navchauhan> hi i need ur help
[11:40] <qawsedrf> Ben64: the thing is i have some offtopic questions :/
[11:41] <Guest90165> Hello folks. I have an Elantech touchpad on an Asus Zenbook running 12.04 (3.2.0-24-generic). The touchpad totally stopped working few hours ago and no longer appears in /proc/bus/input/devices. Any idea on how to have it back working ? Thanks.
[11:41] <MarkiteN> qawsedrf: about bind9 or other dns server?
[11:41] <drdozer> hi - I've managed to hose my /etc/apache2 directory - how can I return it to factory defaults?
[11:41] <Ben64> qawsedrf: just go for it? most stuff on ubuntu works in here
[11:41] <navchauhan> how to download videos from www.lubetube.com
[11:42] <qawsedrf> what is the NS records under Zone Records for ?
[11:42] <ai_> hello.. i've to run my java program via terminal.. how can i hide the terminal ??? plz drop me the code..
[11:42] <qawsedrf> it's in the domain admin panel
[11:42] <Ben64> navchauhan: that is not within the scope of this channel, and is a vulgar site. don't post that in here
[11:42] <m477> I have ubuntu 12.04 and rhythmbox consumes over 1 GB of ram, why is it happening?
[11:42] <navchauhan> how to download video from lubetube.com i m using 11.10 version
[11:43] <MarkiteN> qawsedrf: what kind of admin panel are you using?
[11:43] <Ben64> qawsedrf: ns = nameserver
[11:43] <qawsedrf> it's some cusotm admin panel from the registrar
[11:44] <qawsedrf> NS is for nameserbers usually, but there's a se[arate place for nameserbers all together
[11:44] <add1ctus> Is there a way to install the old gnometris game on Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:44] <qawsedrf> wikipedia says NS records are for delegating dns zones to authoritative dns servewrs
[11:44] <qawsedrf> not sure what that means
[11:44] <qawsedrf> also it only works for subdomain ...
[11:44] <nsnellma> Unity doesn't seem to automatically swich workspace when I focus on a window that isn't on the currently active workspace (for example when clicking on an unread mail in the messaging menu). Is this really how it should be or am I missing something?
[11:45] <tim_heap> Hi all. Could anyone help me sort out some broken packages on my system?
[11:45] <ZaNeIuM> is there an all in one easy program to clone a ubuntu hdd 250GB to a smaller 16GB ssd hard drive, there isnt much data on the 250gb
[11:46] <Ben64> qawsedrf: when you set the ns record, it is telling anyone who looks up your domain to check that server for the authoritative information on it. kind of hard to explain, dns is silly
[11:46] <qawsedrf> :/
[11:47] <Ben64> qawsedrf: generally you'd want to keep them at your registrar unless you're using a different service for dns, like he.net or afraid.org
[11:48] <add1ctus> Anyone could explain me how can get applicatons from Ubuntu 7.10 repositories? (I'm using 12.04)
[11:48] <Ben64> add1ctus: you shouldn't, would probably break things
[11:48] <ServerCrash> how can we check if the connected display has been changed ?
[11:49] <add1ctus> Ben64 : I just need gnome-games from there (more specifically, gnometris)... Or any way I can find the source code or something and install it?
[11:49] <dubey> I want to update my kernel from 2.6.32-312-ec2 to 2.6.32-317-ec2
[11:49] <dubey> what will be the safe steps ?
[11:50] <qawsedrf> Ben64: i tried it with subdom.mysite.com - set onyl NS record to one of my other site's nameserver, but nothing happens when i open itin browser
[11:50] <qawsedrf> it cant find the site
[11:50] <ServerCrash> does the connected video out device be it a monitor or projector has a unique id?
[11:50] <MarkiteN> ZaNeIuM: how about your / partition, is it bigger than 16GB ?
[11:50] <Ben64> qawsedrf: you would need to set ip info on the nameserver
[11:50] <roberto> hi, i have a problem to create a launcher, the command is correct in the bash
[11:50] <qawsedrf> A record is set on mysite.com
[11:51] <Ben64> add1ctus: the name changed since then, its still in 12.04
[11:51] <qawsedrf> but that is different from the other site
[11:51] <ZaNeIuM> its got 2, 4gb and 240gb
[11:51] <Ben64> !info quadrapassel | add1ctus
[11:51] <ZaNeIuM> but its all just space
[11:51] <add1ctus> Ben64 : I know, but the game is different and not the one I need / am used to... I play the old gnometris all day in my school, quadrapassel is nowhere near it.
[11:51] <MarkiteN> ZaNeIuM: is the 240 is the /home partition?
[11:52] <ZaNeIuM> nope its the 4gb i believe its accualy xbmc-linux
[11:54] <sasori2501> anyone know how to setup/type in japanese???? ubuntu 12.04 (it has been a rough go)
[11:54] <ZaNeIuM> i tryed gparted but it hurt my head, im linux illiterate :(
[11:55] <roberto> hi, i have a problem to create a launcher, the command is correct in the bash but doesnt work in the launcher.
[11:55] <add1ctus> ZaNeIuM : Where are you stuck in gparted? What do you want to do?
[11:56] <ZaNeIuM> i just want to copy the whole 250GB hdd disk to a new 16gb ssd
[11:56] <add1ctus> You mean you want to copy the contents of the HDD?
[11:56] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[11:56] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[11:57] <ZaNeIuM> i got a system on a 250gb hdd that runs xbmc-ubuntu, and i want to put it all on the 16gb ssd
[11:58] <add1ctus> ZaNeIuM : Hmm, I'm not sure how could you do that through GParted.
[11:59] <rdz> hi all. i just upgraded to 12.04 and have a dual-screen setup. is there  way to have the menu bar only one screen?
[11:59] <ZaNeIuM> thats why i dont want to use gparted, lol
[11:59] <ZaNeIuM> is there an all in one easy program to clone a ubuntu hdd 250GB to a smaller 16GB ssd hard drive, there isnt much data on the 250gb
[11:59] <MarkiteN> for ZaNeIuM : add1ctus : is it possible to install xbmc-ubuntu on the 16Gb SSD, and replace it with the files from 250Gb drive ?
[11:59] <FluxiFlax2022> hi I do not have http_proxy module in apache2 I do have proxy_html and proxy though ..how to install http_proxy
[12:00] <dubey> any suggestion please
[12:00] <add1ctus> rdz : Open the Displays settings (you can find it through Unity search), and put Launcher placement on one screen only.
[12:00] <FluxiFlax2022> proxy_http that is
[12:00] <sasori2501> so no one has ever tried to type in another language here, with 12.04, ever?
[12:01] <roberto> hi, i have a problem to create a launcher, the command is correct in the bash but doesnt work in the launcher.
[12:01] <add1ctus> sasori2501 : I'm using Macedonian on 12.04 with no problems at all.
[12:02] <jrib> roberto: pastebin entire launcher file
[12:02] <sasori2501> add1ctus: dude, how did you get it to swithc???? i used to have the icon and be able to press the button and switch
[12:02] <roberto> !pasterbin
[12:02] <sasori2501> now, installed the packs, but doesnt work even remotely at all
[12:03] <roberto> : how i do it?
[12:03] <add1ctus> sasori2501 : Find keyboard layout in Unity, on the bottom left you have a + sign. Press it and find the layout you need, add it.
[12:03] <lelamal> !pastebin | roberto
[12:03] <roberto> !pastebin
[12:04] <rdz> add1ctus, thanks for your suggestion. I already did it and indeed, i have the launcher now only on one screen. however, still both screens have a menu bar
[12:04] <compdoc> ZaNeIuM, you can do it, but its not that easy. you need gparted and clonezilla
[12:04] <Sidewinder> !clone | ZaNeIuM
[12:05] <roberto> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/987050/
[12:05] <haylo> ikonia, this one too please
[12:05] <jrib> roberto: umm, what is this?
[12:05] <haylo> ikonia,
[12:05] <haylo> this one too
[12:05] <ikonia> haylo: no need if you can use the channel correctly
[12:05] <haylo> ikonia, this one too please
[12:05] <sasori2501> ghhjkkkシラミノニクラカイ
[12:06] <ZaNeIuM> ok
[12:06] <roberto> i had problem with skype camera. inverse picture. if i launch skype using it, camera works. i need to modify skype launcher now. but i can put it in. sorry for the english but isnt my 1st languages
[12:07] <sasori2501> lol it thinks japanese language is english now.... lol
[12:07] <roberto> but i cant put it*
[12:08] <overrider> Hello - i installed 12.04 on a new Asus Laptop (n46); My TouchPad / Mouse works only until i click and hold something, after clicking it wont let me drag or anything. So i cant drag a Window or select a piece of text. Any ideas?
[12:09] <jrib> roberto: this isn't what I asked, but you can't use this in a launcher.  You'll need to create a small bash script with what you pastebinned as the contents and "#!/bin/bash" on the first line.  Then call that script in your launcher
[12:10] <roberto> and "exit 0" at the end? and how name the file?  ****.local?
[12:10] <sasori2501> argh.  lol. ok mint 12 dl finsihed, going to try that bad boy out, see how it goes
[12:10] <jrib> roberto: you don't need exit 0, you can name it whatever you want
[12:10] <Fat-Thing> how to set qtorrent as the diffult torrent application to download torrent files?
[12:10] <jrib> roberto: you must make it executable though
[12:11] <roberto> can u explain how?
[12:12] <jrib> roberto: chmod +x FILE
[12:13] <roberto> i try it, now! :D thanks, i'll say if it works :)
[12:15] <pentagonpie> Webcam is making low repeating noise, from the headphones.
[12:17] <tyler_d> pentagonpie: your webcam has headphones?
[12:18] <pentagonpie> tyler_d, No, both are unrelated, connecting the webcam to the PC make the noise, which i can hear from separate headphones
[12:20] <eliadem> join ubuntu
[12:23] <dsadsa> please help me. I'm gonna destroy everything around me.
[12:23] <dsadsa> I'm trying to optimize a lxde session to get it to an (at least) acceptable speed, but I'm not managing good!! It has a really good Cpu (intel p4 2.4ghz), so I don't understand the cause of this slowness!! or better I think it is the cideo-chip, an Intel@integrated chipset which shares memory with the already-low RAM (256mb).  Lol I'm refusing to realise it, I'm sure there's a way to get it faster (without buying anything)
[12:23] <Fat-Thing> anyone? how to set qbittorent as the default torrent application to all torrents? it seems that when i download torrent files transmission will open up and i can't find any from settings to disable it
[12:23] <dsadsa> I can give you lshw & lspci outputs
[12:23] <auronandace> dsadsa: 256mb ram? no wonder its slow
[12:24] <N136V> Need some urgent help, wubi wont load, tried running as admin, nothing happened. Runnung samsung RV511, i5, With windows & ultimate.
[12:24] <dsadsa> no auronandace my home pc has the same, and it goes faster
[12:25] <dsadsa> or better, home's cpu is much worse than the p4, and goes faster !!
[12:25] <tyler_d> Fat-Thing: find a .torrent file, right click on it and go to properties, then you can select the default app
[12:25] <greenpillow> hi
[12:26] <N136V> Need some urgent help, wubi wont load, tried running as admin, nothing happened. Samsung RV511, i5, With windows7ultimate, want to dual boot with 12.04
[12:26] <Fat-Thing> tyler_d,  is it on /usr/share/    ?
[12:26] <greenpillow> hi  i need to join math-fn ? anybody know how i could do that ?
[12:26] <tyler_d> Fat-Thing: no, depends on the browser, I think firefox default is ~/Downloads
[12:27] <roberto> jrib, i used this syntax "bash -c" in the launcher. now it works :) thanks for ur help
[12:27] <Fat-Thing> no i mean in getting a getlink coz piratebay got no more torrent files u'll get the other one meta link something
[12:27] <jrib> roberto: ok, that's another way, yes
[12:27] <greenpillow> anybody know how i can join the math-fn irc ?
[12:27] <mafiaboy> i got a problem:  whenever i close my laptops lid.......90% of time when i open it .....i get a blank screen and nothing more.....and ubuntu display does not come back
[12:27] <auronandace> greenpillow: /join #nameofchannel
[12:27] <greenpillow> thanx :)
[12:32] <fl1bbl3> how did you get here?
[12:33] <killer> hi guys..........i just need a advice ...that for my servers ...what should i prefer ubuntu  12.04 / ubuntu 10.04 / debian squeeze
[12:33] <Dr_willis> N136V,  is this an existing wubi install? or are yoy trying tomake a new one?
[12:33] <greenpillow> i can't find #math-fn
[12:33] <greenpillow> http://niobium.mine.nu/~sunrice/ithp.cgi?channel=math-fn&filename=math-fn.log.20120212&display=1&page=4
[12:33] <Dr_willis> killer,  for  ubuntu id say go ubuntu.  ;)
[12:33] <greenpillow> this is a log
[12:33] <Dr_willis> greenpillow,   check their site to see what irc network its on.
[12:34] <greenpillow> i can't fin i anywhere :s
[12:34] <greenpillow> do you know any servers that have math irc's ?
[12:35] <killer> google it  greenpillow
[12:35] <ThinkT510> !alis | greenpillow
[12:38]  * Dr_willis really wonders why one would need a 'math irc channel'
[12:39] <TBarth> Hi, I ve create an desktop file for mysql-query-browser in ~/.local/share/application, but the application doesnt appear in a menu or in the laucher. Do I have to restart the desktop first?
[12:45] <Guest55609> mike
[12:45] <N136V> Dr_willis: I unistalled 11.10, andI want to install 12.04
[12:46] <shashi> hello room.
[12:46] <shashi> some my xubuntu is not booting up properly.
[12:47] <shashi> my desktop appears black.
[12:47] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | shashi
[12:47] <shashi> but it has ben doing it perfectly earlier.
[12:51] <MarkiteN> is there any software to maintain or monitor cpu fan?
[12:52] <MarkiteN> ah.. thinkfan ..
[12:53] <steveccc> is there an app for ubuntu which allows the backup / downloading of flickr images for backup purposes
[12:53] <nannes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846023    i'm having this same issue. Can anyone help me? why ubuntu auto-enables i915 drivers for that card, even if the right ones should be 845g ???
[12:57] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[12:57] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[12:58] <morsnowski> i screwed up the partition table of one of my data disks anyone a good toll to fix that ?
[12:59] <morsnowski> even a tool
[13:02] <shaneo> hey guys what would cause my trash bin to show full when it is not is there anyway to resolve this issue
[13:05] <crooper> is there a 'cli'  to search out where all my harddrive is being used?
[13:06] <shaneo> crooper,
[13:06] <shaneo> disk usage analyzer
[13:06] <shaneo> will show what and where to data is being used
[13:06] <ThinkT510> crooper: df -h
[13:07] <ThinkT510> shaneo: disk usage analyzer is gui
[13:07] <kapz> how do i reset nautilus in 12.04? I tried deleting .config/nautilus and every nautilus dir in my home dir..
[13:07] <shaneo> oh sorry misread
[13:07] <crooper> ok thnnx ThinkT510
[13:07] <shaneo> still kinda early for me
[13:07] <Slorge> grrr.  8 GB SSD on a dell mini 9 - event xubuntu is running out of disk space...
[13:09] <ThinkT510> Slorge: 8gb, i can fit my ubuntu install into 6gb
[13:10] <badabum> I have a networking problem on ubuntu 11.10 with my school network. When I boot up, it connects perfectly automatically, then works for about ten minutes, then disconnects. I don't have this problem with windows and with no other connection
[13:10] <badabum> what can i do?
[13:11] <badabum> it's wireless and uses a password.
[13:11] <willemm> Hey, can anyone help? We're trying to netboot precise, but the via driver seems to set something on the card causing it to stop working until a cold boot
[13:12] <grainne> shaneo: maybe you deleted something from external drives like usb and didn`t empty your folder on some occassions this could cause this problem
[13:12] <steveccc> has anyone on ubuntu found a good app which syncs with google drive yet?
[13:13] <shaneo> grainne, your right was deleting external data so how do i get it to resolve the issue
[13:13] <BlueEagle> steveccc: You mean other than gmount?
[13:13] <shaneo> all folders are empty but it still shows full
[13:14] <willemm> Hmm, we fixed it
[13:14] <crooper> ok...here's another question.... i used the 'df -h' command and got a listing for a '.Private' directory in my home directory and i can't seem to find it with the 'find' command. How can I go about finding it and deleting it or fixing it so it doesn't use 75% of my hardrive?
[13:14] <willemm> seemed we needed to force it to 100Mbps full-duplex
[13:14] <willemm> Because of a splitted network line
[13:14] <steveccc> blueeagle: i didnt know about gmount - basically i am looking for dropbox style of sync but with google drive - I know the offical software is coming soon but quite often the linux coders create something in advance
[13:15] <BlueEagle> steveccc: Well I googled Ubuntu google drive and came up with gmount.
[13:16] <shaneo> crooper, in terminal sudo rm -rf ~/.Private
[13:17] <Fat-Thing> is it possible to extract a .zip file in ubuntu 10.04 lucid?
[13:17] <BlueEagle> Fat-Thing: Yes.
[13:17] <shaneo> Fat-Thing, yes
[13:17] <Fat-Thing> how?
[13:18] <asdsf__> Arc
[13:18] <BlueEagle> Fat-Thing: unzip perhaps?
[13:18] <crooper> sorry shaneo ... it's still there
[13:18] <shaneo> Fat-Thing, unzip foobar.zip
[13:18] <jrib> Fat-Thing: double click on it...
[13:18] <shaneo> crooper, hmm thats odd
[13:18] <crooper> that's why I'm asking
[13:19] <csioktel> how to check my lan card is running 100Mbps full-duplex or not?
[13:19] <shaneo> crooper, use nautilus to locate the folder and delete it that way sudo nautilus in terminal
[13:19] <shaneo> crooper, use ctrl+h to show hidden files
[13:19] <crooper> i tried and it doesn't show up shaneo
[13:20] <crooper> that's why i used the command line
[13:20] <shaneo> crooper, did you encrypt your home drive?
[13:20] <crooper> yep
[13:20] <shaneo> thats why
[13:20] <badabum> I have a networking problem on ubuntu 11.10 with my school network. When I boot up, it connects perfectly automatically, then works for about ten minutes, then disconnects. I don't have this problem with windows and with no other connection
[13:20] <shaneo> crooper, you have to unencrypt the home drive to remove the folder
[13:20] <crooper> how do i solve the problem?
[13:21] <crooper> oh nevermind... i'll just reinstall my minimal install
[13:21] <shaneo> .ecryptfs and .Private are the encrypted folders, there are ways of fixing it but most of the time you will need to reinstall
[13:21] <crooper> ok thnx
[13:22] <crooper> brb... i need coffee
[13:22] <APoulos> Hey guys, I could use some help
[13:22] <shaneo> crooper, yeah thats what i was gonna recommend. Ive done the same thing use truecrypt to create a secure partition on your hdd
[13:22] <APoulos> I was told that xfce4 was lighterweight than Gnome-classic
[13:23] <APoulos> but the only issue I'm having is, in order to properly use xfce4 I have to use it through Xubuntu
[13:24] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Why do you have to use it through Xubuntu?
[13:24] <APoulos> I tried installing it, and it worked, but I don't know how to get rid of Gnome - and when I tried doing "sudo apt-get autoremove gnome-*" it borked my system
[13:24] <crooper> ok... well i'll be back after the reinvention... thnx shaneo
[13:24] <APoulos> BlueEagle: thats what was suggested to me
[13:24] <shaneo> crooper, np
[13:24] <auronandace> !purexfce | APoulos
[13:24] <hroi> anyone got experience with rsync and nfs mount?
[13:25] <adhikari> how do you upgrade octave to version 3.6
[13:25] <compdoc> hroi, I use rsync with samba
[13:25] <hroi> I'm using rsync -v srcfile/* nfsdir/
[13:25] <flashingpumpkin> Guys, anyone know what's going on here? http://bit.ly/Jdlga2
[13:25] <adhikari> i'm having so many problems with octave3.2
[13:25] <jrib> !here | flashingpumpkin
[13:25] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Unlike Windows, extra applications rarely require extra resources when they are not running. As such leaving Gnome is a viable option. If you want to remove it then !purexfce is the way to go.
[13:25] <APoulos> auronandace: see, this the problem with your IRC bot commands, half the time you're just guessing what I'm looking for, not even bothering to listen properly to what Im asking
[13:25] <plm> Hi all
[13:25] <grainne> shaneo: usually you could resolve this issue with a reboot
[13:25] <hroi> compdoc:  everythime I run this command... rsync copies everything over... not just the differences.
[13:26] <compdoc> hroi, differences? what command you using?
[13:26] <APoulos> BlueEagle: the issue is that, I want to know how to get rid of certain desktop environments
[13:26] <shaneo> grainne, reboots unencrypt the hdd ?
[13:26] <plm> I'm would like autohide on unity 2D. I tried this: apt-get install dconf-tools. Then run "dconf-editor", navigate to com > canonical > unity-2d > launcher and set "hide-mode" to "2".
[13:26] <plm> But that not works..
[13:26] <plm> Any idea?
[13:26] <APoulos> BlueEagle: eg: Gnome wouldnt remove everything, and when it did, it messed up my system
[13:26] <flashingpumpkin> re jrib : i915 drivers boot into black screen - nomodeset and i915.modeset=0 "fix" it, albeit very unsatisfactory. any tips?
[13:27] <adhikari> pleae somebody help me
[13:27] <hroi> compdoc:  rsync localdir/*  nfsmountdir/.
[13:27] <adhikari> i'm having so many problems with octave3.2
[13:27] <jrib> flashingpumpkin: despite the screen being black, is the system usable?  Do you hear the login sound?  Can you login graphically if you type blindly?
[13:27] <adhikari> how do you upgrade octave to version 3.6
[13:27] <auronandace> APoulos: if you just wanted xfce then install xubuntu, why install ubuntu if you are just going to remove gnome and unity later?
[13:27] <hroi> compdoc:  just plain rsync
[13:27] <BlueEagle> APoulos: If you uninstall Gnome-desktop (with dependencies) and then install Xubuntu-desktop you should be quite close to what you get on a Xubuntu installation.
[13:27] <flashingpumpkin> jrib, yep, sys is usable, typing blind works for login
[13:28] <compdoc> hroi, I mean you want it to copy only the changed files, and not copy existing files?
[13:28] <hroi> compdoc: yes.
[13:28] <jrib> flashingpumpkin: a few years ago there was a bug in the nvidia driver that caused my laptop to boot black screen because it tried to use the external display (which wasn't present) by default.  Could be something similar
[13:28] <compdoc> is that the problem?
[13:28] <iceroot> !purexfce | APoulos
[13:28] <hroi> compdoc: according to the man pages... default behaviour of rsync is to copy only changes
[13:28] <APoulos> auronandace BlueEagle im not sure I want to install xfce - I want to know of other options other lightweight desktop environments that don't require a change in distros
[13:28] <adhikari> flashingpumpkin, jrib, Icehawk, ubottu , hroi    how to upgrade octave3.2 to octave3.6
[13:28] <APoulos> ok
[13:28] <jrib> adhikari: I don't know
[13:28] <flashingpumpkin> jrib, plugging in an external monitor works. How did you fix it, custom xorg.conf?
[13:28] <auronandace> iceroot: he already complained to me for showing that factoid
[13:29] <iceroot> auronandace: ok
[13:29] <APoulos> next time one of you uses ubottu on me, im dipping out
[13:29] <badabum> I have a networking problem on ubuntu 11.10 with my school network. When I boot up, it connects perfectly automatically, then works for about ten minutes, then disconnects. I don't have this problem with windows and with no other connection
[13:29] <iceroot> APoulos: i dont get what you want
[13:29] <BlueEagle> APoulos: It's not as much a change in distro as it is removing gnome and installing XFCE4. Ubuntu and Xubuntu are identical bar the front end.
[13:29] <iceroot> APoulos: use a usefull questions with details
[13:29] <steveccc> hroi: do you know if there is a way to use rsync where the files may be in different directories - ie retrieve files from this drive and copy them over only if I dont have them?
[13:29] <jrib> flashingpumpkin: there was an option, yeah.  Let me see if I can find it
[13:29] <grainne> shaneo: sry i am not able to read all at the moment, was related to the "trash" issue not encryption
[13:30] <stan47> Hi. Question: can anyone tell me - is the printer driver for the Kodak C310 printer I found (and very easily installed) in Ubuntu 12.10 from CUPS - or Ubuntu?
[13:30] <adhikari> APoulos, badabum , BlueEagle, grainne, stan47     how to upgrade octave3.2 to octave3.6
[13:30] <auronandace> APoulos: like BlueEagle said, it is more advisable to refrain from removing desktops after the fact
[13:30] <BlueEagle> adhikari: Why are you asking me?
[13:30] <shaneo> grainne, lol oh sorry yeah that does usually work i just hate rebooting all the time as this is a regular thing
[13:30] <hroi> steveccc:   rsync -Ra sourcepath/ destpath/
[13:30] <hroi> steveccc:  the "R" will go into all subdirectories of sourcepath
[13:31] <auronandace> APoulos: if you wanted to try them out then install them and chose them from lightdm
[13:31] <compdoc> hroi, i use a command like this:   rsync -avn --del --progress --ignore-existing localdir  nfsmountdir
[13:31] <BlueEagle> adhikari: But the answer is: sudo apt-get upgrade octave
[13:31] <compdoc> from to
[13:31] <auronandace> APoulos: there is: unity, gnome3, xfce, lxde, enlightenment
[13:31] <auronandace> APoulos: kde4 too
[13:31] <jrib> flashingpumpkin: this was my issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Screen_Blanks.2BAC8-Monitor_Turns_Off
[13:31] <BlueEagle> auronandace: Don't forget IceWM.
[13:32] <BlueEagle> ...or the *step family
[13:32] <adhikari> BlueEagle, I thought you are the genius
[13:32] <BlueEagle> adhikari: No, you would want someone else for that. :)
[13:32] <jrib> flashingpumpkin: I doubt that will actually help you, but it might give you another thing to think about
[13:33] <badabum> adhikari: no idea. any idea on my network thing?
[13:33] <badabum> I have a networking problem on ubuntu 11.10 with my school network. When I boot up, it connects perfectly automatically, then works for about ten minutes, then disconnects. I don't have this problem with windows and with no other connection
[13:33] <APoulos> iceroot, auronandace BlueEagle - I apologize for my behavior towards the ubottu bot situation, I guess what I'm mainly wondering is what is the lightest I can use on my Ubuntu distro? I dont want to have to change distros or anything, and my other question is how does one remove a desktop environment without it ruining the rest of the system?
[13:33] <steveccc> hroi:will that ignore the directory structure though - ie if file a is contained in NEWDRIVE/file and the one on the other drive is OLDDRIVE/randomdirectory/file then will it know to only copy file over to the newdrive if its not already on there (even though its in a different directory)
[13:33] <iceroot> APoulos: lubuntu/lxde
[13:33] <iceroot> APoulos: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[13:33] <iceroot> APoulos: and how to remove another desktop was shown to you with !purexfce and so on
[13:33] <hroi> steveccc:  no it wont... it will have to be in same directory tree.
[13:34] <adhikari> badabum, probably you want to install samba for that
[13:34] <auronandace> APoulos: the thing is removing desktops tends to remove many dependencies, which is what breaks your system (hence BlueEagle advised you not to remove them)
[13:34] <iceroot> APoulos: but you can install lubuntu and still have unity
[13:34] <BlueEagle> APoulos: I think you've misunderstood the concept here. The different distros are basically the same distro but with different front ends (bar edubuntu). All the back end stuff is the same in all distros so they are freely interchangable.
[13:34] <hroi> steveccc:  there may well be an option for collapsing the tree, i dont know.
[13:34] <steveccc> hroi: that was my question - is there anything you can do to ignore the structure - either with rsync or another tool
[13:34] <auronandace> APoulos: lxde is the lightest full desktop environment
[13:34] <plm> anyone can help me with autohide left bar in unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.4?
[13:34] <APoulos> iceroot: right, but I'm not talking about xfce - im talking in general
[13:34] <flashingpumpkin> jrib, thanks. I'm not on NVIDIA but it's a good hint. I'll investigate later when back at the machine.
[13:35] <adhikari> badabum, maybe you are with ubuntu 12.04 . you would need better version to interface network.
[13:35] <APoulos> BlueEagle: yes, Im a little bit ignorant on the topic of desktop environments
[13:35] <adhikari> badabum, make your upgrade of the system updates
[13:35] <iceroot> APoulos: the commands we showd you are for gnome, kde, xfce, lxde
[13:36] <APoulos> auronandace: well I mean what about all the random apps that get installed - I just don't want like 5-6 different environments and not sure how to the unnecessary ones
[13:36] <BlueEagle> APoulos: I recommend you search for the virtual packages that end with desktop. They will show you the easiest way to install the major flavours.
[13:36] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Apart from that you're looking at IceWM and the *step desktops.
[13:37] <APoulos> BlueEagle: virtual packages? as in VM? or am I still misunderstanding
[13:37] <s801> who here can help me out with a network issue involving ethernet -> bond -> bridge -> vlan subinterface?
[13:37] <Joupi> Apoulos : The particularity of Ubuntu (on the contrary to Suse for example) is that when you install Guis, they merge together so you have have applications. The Guis are really up to the one using them and depend on what you want to do. Use LXDE/XFce for lighter GUIs but it will still depend on what applications you want to run ... I guess the best way to do that is to try either on virtuabox or Live desktop and see which best suits
[13:37] <Joupi> your need then install the corresponding OS (XUbuntu, LUbuntu, ...). The base system will be the same anyway ...
[13:37] <auronandace> APoulos: the best thing i can advise is trying them all, find one you like then install that version on a fresh install (removing them afterward will give you headaches and wastes a lot of time)
[13:37] <a7x> hi, i can't get brightness to work on dell l702x, the OS understands i'm pressing the brightness button, but nothing happens, ideas?
[13:37] <badabum> adhikari: samba? what for? would that fix my connection issues? i doubt it
[13:38] <Joupi> I agree with auronandace
[13:38] <auronandace> APoulos: a vm is a great testing ground
[13:38] <BlueEagle> APoulos: No, a virtual package is not a single piece of software but a pointer to one or more other packages. For example "Xubuntu-desktop" installs all the components to get a standard Xubuntu desktop. "KDE-Plasma-Desktop" installs the bare minimum needed to get a working KDE Plasma desktop.
[13:38] <adhikari> yeah i did gave it a try
[13:38] <s801> I have an issue with setting up a bridge vlan sub-interface on an Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise) server that I am using for a KVM Host. The network is multi-layered with 2 NICs -> bond interface -> bridge interface -> bridge vlan sub-interface. The vlan subinterface on the bridge gets a random IP address on each reboot. I need the mac address to be inherited from the bond interface which is the only interface in the bridge at boot-up. Any takers?
[13:39] <s801> i'm sorry, I made a mistake in the statement. The vlan subinterface gets a random MAC address on boot-up. Not a random IP address.
[13:39] <APoulos> auronandace, BlueEagle , Joupi - ah alright I get it a little more now.  Okay, so Xubuntu still uses the same market and what not as standard Ubuntu?
[13:39] <badabum> I have a networking problem on ubuntu 11.10 with my school network. When I boot up, it connects perfectly automatically, then works for about ten minutes, then disconnects. I don't have this problem with windows and with no other connection
[13:40] <auronandace> APoulos: they all use the same repos, the desktop environment is just what it looks like (the front end)
[13:40] <dubey> I followed this process to upgrade kernel : http://pastebin.com/tQBq07KF
[13:40] <APoulos> auronandace BlueEagle Joupi so say I wanted to install Gnome but not EVERY program that comes with it, what would I install?
[13:40] <dubey> After rebooting i am not able to login to server
[13:40] <BlueEagle> APoulos: You want to install Gnome, but you don't want to install Gnome?
[13:40] <Fat-Thing> what's the command in terminal to know like banshee app is already close? ps -a | grep banshee? bet i'm wrong pls help thanx
[13:40] <compdoc> s801, I never assign ip addresses to the bridge, or nic used for the bridge. And I think you can assign the mac address manually, no?
[13:41] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Or you want to install Gnome, but don't want to install Gnumeric?
[13:41] <auronandace> BlueEagle: i think he wants to avoid the extra apps, like ubuntu-desktop would pull in
[13:41] <Joupi> Apoulos, the system comes as in the install, if you need to install uninstall apps, you should do afterwards, else you need expert config at the beginning ... no easy.
[13:41] <s801> The bond interface has 2 physical interfaces attached to it. the bond0 interface therefore can assume the IP address of either one depending on the situation.
[13:42] <APoulos> BlueEagle, auronandace, Joupi  : Well Gnome is what I'm used to, and until I can try the other DEs on a VM - I want to use Gnome but without all the extras that come with
[13:42] <s801> I'd prefer to do fewer manual configurations here.
[13:42] <APoulos> BlueEagle, auronandace, Joupi because I bloody hate Unity
[13:42] <auronandace> APoulos: unity isn't that bad actually, but my favourite is still xfce
[13:43] <s801> When I use brctl to create the bridge and then vconfig to create the subinterface the correct MAC address is selected i.e. the MAC address of the bond interface goes to the bridge interface which is what is used by the VLAN subinterface
[13:43] <BlueEagle> APoulos: You are aware that you can select the legacy gnome desktop (ie. not unity) upon login without making any changes, right?
[13:43] <compdoc> s801, personally, I think its crazy to use a bonded interface that way
[13:43] <Joupi> Apoulos : Hahaha :p I understand you ... I personnaly swithed to Kubuntu, but if you don't like Unity, you can still login with Gnome fallback session which will bring you back to the "old" gnome that you know ...
[13:43] <s801> When I use the /etc/network/interfaces file the MAC address is random
[13:43] <auronandace> APoulos: gnome2 isn't available on 11.10 upwards
[13:43] <fidel> but gnome-fallback will not be provided forever - or am i wrong?
[13:44] <APoulos> BlueEagle: yes, you mean like choose it from the login?
[13:44] <fidel> so i doubt focusing on gnome-fallback is a long-time solution
[13:44] <Joupi> Unity will be the default in the futur yes, but still can use now
[13:44] <s801> compdoc, I am trying to assign the bridge interface for KVM guests. As far as I can tell the only way to use the bond for both host and guest is to use a bridge interface.
[13:44] <ejcweb> Occasionally some of my program windows (in 12.04) seem to get 'lost' - they aren't shown in the unity launcher as running, and I can't alt-tab to them. But I know they are there, and they show up in running processes. Is there a solution?
[13:44] <Joupi> I mean gnome fall back
[13:45] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Yeah. Just select "Gnome Classic" and you're there.
[13:45] <Baroque_Obama> Hi, I'm having an issue with 12.04 after upgrading - the login screen works, but all images are broken, and after logging in all I get is a black screen with the cursor
[13:45] <BlueEagle> Baroque_Obama: Do you have read/write access to your home directory?
[13:45] <roasted> Question - I have a Toshiba Z835 ultrabook. When I boot up, all Fn keys work. If I suspend and resume, all Fn keys work except brightness. The bar moves as if it's working, but the actual brightness does not change. I've tried ACPI options in the grub config, but no dice. Has anybody found a solution to this problem? Using Intel i5 2nd gen graphics...
[13:46] <s801> compdoc, what would you suggest for KVM host setup to allow guests to have access to a trunk interface while providing network redundancy for the host?
[13:46] <APoulos> auronandace, auronandace BlueEagle - here's how I want to go about this, I want to install Gnome without all the extra programs it installs with it, and then until I feel safe enough to use other DEs from testing from VMs I want stick with Gnome - do you understand what I mean now?
[13:46] <ikonia> roasted: it won't be I5 related, it will be that specific brand of motherboard and it's apci interface
[13:46] <APoulos> sorry, meant to add Joupi to that post
[13:46] <ikonia> roasted: it's not an uncommon fault for certain parts to not work after suspend
[13:46] <auronandace> APoulos: gnome2 or 3?
[13:46] <Baroque_Obama> I'm not sure (sorry, pretty new to ubuntu)
[13:47] <roasted> ikonia: I understand. There's even a bug report for it to get an "official" fix. I was aiming for finding a work around... perhaps something I can add in the grub config to change it?
[13:47] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Then you want the alternate install CD and make a bare minimum server installation and from there install the package "gnome"
[13:47] <ikonia> roasted: very very very doubtul
[13:47] <Joupi> Apoulos, thet only way I see you succeed in what you want to install gnome-shell (v3) so you can use gnome still but new version ... Not sure it's the right way to go though since gnome 3 is different from gnome 2 and will be left over at some point anyway ...
[13:47] <ikonia> roasted: if it works, then fails after suspend, it's normally a glitch in the code, rather than something that can be fixed with a setting
[13:47] <roasted> ikonia: well, that's a bummer. But the Z835/12.04 is still very new so I didn't really expect a fix today. :P
[13:48] <roasted> ikonia: but there again, some users in here have helped me with some very quirky fixes so I figured I'd try.
[13:48] <ikonia> roasted: you're not alone in this sort of behaviour, people tend to have random things as you are doing now where $X works but $Y doesn't but it did work before suspend
[13:48] <BlueEagle> APoulos: That should give you the bare minimum of packages installed. However unless you are running very very low on disk space I would recomend installing the DEs on your computer and then when you've found your flavour install that from scratch.
[13:50] <BlueEagle> APoulos: And should you end up with a DE that doesn't have its own distro flavour the procedure would be the same; a bare minimum + DE.
[13:50] <maxiepax> To anyone in charge of packaging, 'samba4' is alpha, and is shiped with a samba 3.6.3 config file that doesn't, and will never work.
[13:50] <jpds> maxiepax: Filed a bug about it?
[13:51] <maxiepax> jpds: am now.
[13:52] <a7x> i really can't get it working neither with xbacklight.
[13:53] <Baroque_Obama> BlueEagle: I've only ever dealt with the GUI, so I'm not too familiar with command line access outside of opening terminal
[13:54] <APoulos> Joupi, BlueEagle - I dont know if I want an alt install, I just want Gnome-Classic without all the extra packages that come with it
[13:54] <secher> Heyas all.  I try and avoid IRC because I like to figure stuff on my own, but htis has me bugged.  No sound in 12.04. User is in group audio.  As user, the only card available is 'dummy'.  If sudo alsamixer, I can see the device, and none are muted.  ANy ideas whta I'm doing incorrectly?
[13:54] <APoulos> Joupi, BlueEagle like installing Gnome without getting programs like "cheese" and what not
[13:54] <BlueEagle> Baroque_Obama: `ls -la` after opeing the terminal shouls show all the files in your home directory with permissions and owner. You want your name to be both the owner and group for all files and directories.
[13:55] <BlueEagle> APoulos: If you only want gnome desktop with all the stuff that ubuntu-desktop throws in then you need to install the server version (ie GUI-less) and add the "Gnome" package.
[13:56] <BlueEagle> APoulos: If you do not want to do that then you will need to manually create a list of all the packages that "ubuntu-desktop" contains that "gnome" does not contain and remove all of those.
[13:57] <s801> has anyone set up a KVM host with bond, bridge, and vlan subinterface on the bridge?
[13:57] <Joupi> Apoulos : Look like you want a personnal config out of the box ... sounds a little difficult to realize ... In the previous versions of Ubuntu, you did not have Unity ok, but still had the apps coming with gnome desktop ...
[13:57] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Ofcourse some direct dependencies of "Gnome-Desktop" may be indirect dependencies of "Gnome" so you may still end up beraking your system.
[13:58] <auronandace> APoulos: if you know exactly what packages you want try the mini iso
[13:58] <auronandace> !mini | APoulos
[13:58] <auronandace> APoulos: but that does mean you'd need to know what you want
[13:59] <BlueEagle> APoulos: And if none of the above options suite your requirement the Ubuntu is not what you want to begin with I guess.
[13:59] <Baroque_Obama> BlueEagle: is there a way to open terminal at/before the login screen? I can't get into the desktop to open terminal there
[13:59] <BlueEagle> Baroque_Obama: CTRL+ALT+F1 should give you a text login.
[14:02] <APoulos> BlueEagle, Joupi, auronandace alright, thanks for the help.
[14:02] <Baroque_Obama> blueeagle: great, that worked. after logging in, I tried to run terminal, and it said it isn't currently installed. I'm installing it now, but I assume that's a bad sign?
[14:02] <ejcweb> I'm experiencing this problem (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/907462) with a couple of applications - they are not shown in Unity as running, or the alt-tab window switcher. Can anything be done?
[14:03] <BlueEagle> Baroque_Obama: You're already in a terminal. Why would you want to run another?
[14:03] <BlueEagle> APoulos: Best of luck to you.
[14:05] <Baroque_Obama> blueeagle: because i'm dumb. sorry, ran the ls -la command, my name is owner and group for all files/directories
[14:06] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.04 but after installing ubuntu, the system restarts and takes me straight to windows. I have tried reinstalling grub but no luck. How would I fix this? (the windows bootloader is located in /dev/sda1 while win7 sits on sda2 and ubuntu on sda6)
[14:06] <Joshua_MG> hi all. How can I configure my keyboard to use french characters (like Ä) on linux terminal (ctrl+alt+F1)?
[14:07] <morsnowski> tyteen4a03, are you sure that you've not set it staright to boot to windows
[14:07] <tyteen4a03> morsnowski: how would I check? I don't remember doing so
[14:07] <BlueEagle> Baroque_Obama: Then that's not the reason you're not able to log in.
[14:08] <BlueEagle> tyteen4a03: Did you install from an USB-drive?
[14:08] <tyteen4a03> BlueEagle: yes
[14:09] <BlueEagle> tyteen4a03: Then odds are that Grub read it as HD(X) and X would be lower than the drive containing the MBR that you were aiming for.
[14:09] <morsnowski> tyteen4a03, look for the timeout in the grub.cfg
[14:09] <BlueEagle> tyteen4a03: Try booting from the USB drive again and in the menu select "Boot from first harddrive" and see if that gives you the GRUB menu.
[14:10] <designbybeck> How come in Disk Utility, I have never been able to see "Available" disk space? doesn't matter what version i've used
[14:10] <tyteen4a03> alright, will try
[14:10] <designbybeck> I'm trying to figure out how much space I have left on my partitions? What might be the best way to do that?
[14:10] <BlueEagle> Joshua_MG: loadkeys I guess.
[14:11] <BlueEagle> designbybeck: df -h
[14:11] <quixotedon> designbybeck: you can just check available disk space when you open Nautilus
[14:11] <magic_al> i have accidentally overwritten my delete-key with another short cut. can anybody tell me how to undo that?
[14:11] <designbybeck> how do I do that quixotedon ?
[14:11] <Dr_willis> designbybeck,  when in doubt.. use the command line. ;)
[14:11] <designbybeck> and Thanks for that BlueEagle that did work nicely.. gotta remember that one
[14:11] <quixotedon> designbybeck: when you go to Home folder, the status at the bottom of the window shows you the available disk space
[14:12] <designbybeck> hmm not on mine quixotedon
[14:12] <quixotedon> Nautilus is file explorer.. :) the icon is 'directory/folder'
[14:12] <BlueEagle> magic_al: That depends on how you did it. xkeycaps will perhaps be able to help.
[14:12] <Dr_willis> wouldent available disk space be space thats unallocated? while FILESYSTEM available space would be what df -h is showing...
[14:12] <designbybeck> oh gotta turn on status bar first
[14:12] <quixotedon> designbybeck: what version are you using now?
[14:13] <magic_al> BlueEagle: i was up to change some short cuts via the Appearance/Keyboard setting, I wanted to change a shortcut and pressed on delete
[14:13] <designbybeck> Perfect! Thank you quixotedon BlueEagle Dr_willis you solved my problem! I will remember these and pass them along!!
[14:13] <designbybeck> I like my cats skinned multiple ways ;)
[14:13] <BlueEagle> magic_al: then go back to that same window and remove delete as the short cut.
[14:14] <magic_al> BlueEagle: exacly that is my problem: I can just overwrite it but not set it to nothing
[14:14] <quixotedon> designbybeck: it's written as "Free space: xx GB" :)
[14:14] <hotland> hello
[14:14] <hotland> why is it the download link of linux if SLOWWWWWWWWW
[14:14] <Dr_willis> magic_al,  the 'delete' button should delete it...
[14:15] <Dr_willis> hotland,  try the torrents perhaps?
[14:15] <Baroque_Obama> blueeagle: is there some way for me to check what else might be causing this issue? The fact that I get broken image icons in the taskbar at the login screen makes me think something is very messed up - I just ran the upgrade from within 11.10 and had no issues there
[14:15] <hotland> ubuntu download link is slow any torrent?
[14:15] <auronandace> !torrents | hotland
[14:15] <Fat-Thing> how can i make .iso file in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:15] <hotland> any official link for a torrent?
[14:15] <mneptok> hotland: .torrent files exisit in every Ubuntu mirror
[14:15] <Dr_willis> tons of torrents. :)
[14:15] <magic_al> Dr_willis: thats what i thoght. but obviously it assigned it to the short-cut...
[14:15] <Dr_willis> magic_al,  the delete  button here deleted the shortcut i jsut made..
[14:15] <hotland> i cant see torrent link at ubuntu.com/download
[14:16] <magic_al> Dr_willis: well how was i even able to asign it i wonder :P
[14:16] <BlueEagle> magic_al: Then read the manual. If that doesn't explain how to do it, set it to a key you never use.
[14:16] <mneptok> hotland: and you don't see the URLs the bot gave you 30 seconds ago?
[14:16] <quixotedon> hotland: it depends on the internet speed in your place and the upgrade/download request, as in my experience, it took more than 12 hours on a less than 50KB/s speed
[14:16] <hotland> let me scroll it
[14:17] <Dr_willis> magic_al,  add new, select the shortcit at the left..  select key field.. hit 'delete'
[14:17] <s801> has anyone set up a KVM host with bond, bridge, and vlan subinterface on the bridge?
[14:17] <Dr_willis> i just made a shortcut for the delete key. then used the delete button under 'add new' to delete it.
[14:17] <BlueEagle> magic_al: Actually I found a screen shot of "Keyboard Shortcuts" window and below the list it reads "...or press backspace to clear". Does that work for you?
[14:17] <tyteen4a03> Boot from first HDD didn't solve the problem (if that matters, Windows Bootloader, Windows and Ubuntu sits on the same ssd)
[14:18] <hotland> one more thing
[14:18] <BlueEagle> magic_al: That's a screenie from 2007 mind you and it might no longer apply. :)
[14:18] <Dr_willis> actually - ive been editing the xchat shortcuts.. heh.. :)
[14:19] <hotland> i saw a ubuntu at my school and it has a built loader for boot selection of os did ubuntu made that one?
[14:19] <magic_al> ok i am fine i assigned a comibination I would never use..
[14:19] <magic_al> thanks all
[14:19] <Joshua_MG> BlueEagle: Thanks
[14:19] <hotland> once i open the terminal it ask if i boot up windows or ubuntu
[14:19] <BlueEagle> Joshua_MG: You're welcome.
[14:19] <tyteen4a03> hotland: yes, that's the grub bootloader
[14:20] <hotland> its built in with ubuntu
[14:20] <auronandace> hotland: grub is developed seperately
[14:20] <Dr_willis> hmm. do delete the shortcut. you select it.. and clear both fields.. and it vanishes
[14:20] <Dr_willis> backspace does not remove it here.
[14:20] <hotland> so i need to download it manualy?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> !grub
[14:21] <tyteen4a03> hotland: no, usually ubuntu installs it for you
[14:21] <Dr_willis> grub2 is installed by default normally
[14:21] <auronandace> hotland: grub ships with ubuntu by default
[14:21] <hotland> btw which one is better ubuntu its self or the ubuntu windows installer
[14:22] <auronandace> hotland: wubi isn't a long term solution
[14:22] <Dr_willis> hotland,  if you mean wubi. id avoid wubi like its the bubonic plague...
[14:22] <Dr_willis> ;)
[14:22] <hotland> so direct instal is better
[14:22] <jeremy18> bonjour tout monde
[14:22] <Dr_willis> wubi is very problematic
[14:22] <Dr_willis> and thats being 'nice' about it. ;)
[14:23] <Pici> !fr | jackiechan0
[14:23] <Pici> jackiechan0: sorry.
[14:23] <jeremy18> je suis entrain de me faire mon conky il ceux trouve a gauche mes je le voudrai a droite
[14:24] <Pici> !fr | jeremy18
[14:24] <BlueEagle> hotland: You will experience a performance hit (some say slight, other say major) from running through Wubi as you add another layer of virutalisation on the disk subsystem. However the maintainability makes it nice for getting a general idea of what Ubuntu is about.
[14:24] <hroi> can I install two different glibs on my ubuntu?
[14:24] <auronandace> hotland: wubi is more of a try before you dive in, even then i'd rather use a vm
[14:25] <Dr_willis> id reccomend just playing with Ubuntu inside virtualbox. instead of using Wubi. :) but virtualbox is  worth playing with in any case
[14:25] <jackiechan0> Pici>  i dont' speak french sorry
[14:26] <BlueEagle> Dr_willis: Wouldn't you take a bigger performance hit runnign a full machine virtualization?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> !fr| jeremy18
[14:26] <carmen> ola
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> !es
[14:27] <carmen> hello
[14:27] <princethakur> any buddy designer ?
[14:28] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  id rather have the hit. then have to fight with  wubi.
[14:29] <princethakur> ubottu, can you please suggest me any software for chat
[14:29] <princethakur> ?
[14:29] <princethakur> in rooms
[14:30] <quixotedon> BlueEagle: try install directly and you'll be happier than before rather than trying it on a virtualbox or wubi.. :)
[14:30] <BlueEagle> quixotedon: You're missing the origin of the discussion.
[14:30] <princethakur> i need software to use chat room ?
[14:30] <altruista42> I have a question... what can I do when I get the IP number from the wrong DHCP server?
[14:30] <BlueEagle> princethakur: What kind of chat rooms are you refering to?
[14:30] <Dr_willis> princethakur,  you are using software to be in this chat room... care to be more spefiric.
[14:30] <Dr_willis> specific
[14:30] <quixotedon> BlueEagle: oops sorry, was on the other room before.. :)
[14:30] <Dr_willis> !im
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  there are a zillion different irc clients
[14:31] <princethakur> blueeagle, something like yahoo
[14:31] <BlueEagle> princethakur: Then you want !im
[14:31] <BlueEagle> !im > princethakur
[14:32] <princethakur> how can i run - corel draw on - UBUNTU 12.04 ?
[14:32] <princethakur> which software is that ? blueEagle
[14:33] <princethakur> monkeydust - which i can use freely
[14:33] <BlueEagle> princethakur: Please see the message from ubottu in your chat client. As for Corel, that is a windows application, is it not?
[14:33] <escott> BlueEagle, corel was one of the earlier office suites to have a linux port
[14:33] <auronandace> princethakur: pidgin and empathy are instant messenger clients that can handle many protocols (including yahoo)
[14:33] <princethakur> yes that i windows application
[14:33] <princethakur> but can ubuntu team convert that for Ubuntu ?
[14:34] <auronandace> !appdb | princethakur
[14:34] <auronandace> princethakur: you really should find native alternatives
[14:35] <BlueEagle> princethakur: CorelDraw will run in Linux: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=440
[14:35] <BlueEagle> s/Linux/Wine
[14:35] <princethakur> auronandace, i need chat room where i can make friends,
[14:36] <auronandace> !alis | princethakur
[14:36] <princethakur> blueeagle ? does kopete have chat rooms ?
[14:36] <BlueEagle> princethakur: Please read the manual page for Kopete to find a list of features.
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  kopete is is not a channel, it's a client
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  channels are part of a server, like freenode, not part of a client
[14:38] <princethakur> monkeydust ? what should i write in Join Channel ..
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  type /join #[channelname]
[14:39] <thattechguy> I see that local user mail gets delivered into a file in /var/mail/user... is there a way to have mail delivered into a directory as multiple individual files inside a directory and not that single file?
[14:39] <princethakur> how would i come to know which channel i have to join ? how can see list
[14:39] <mneptok> princethakur: questions about how IRC works and how to use it are better asked in #freenode
[14:39] <BlueEagle> thattechguy: Yes.
[14:39] <thattechguy> BlueEagle, how would I go about doing that
[14:40] <mneptok> princethakur: please ask general questions about IRC there. not here.
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  you have to know channel you want to join, we don't know what you want
[14:40] <BlueEagle> thattechguy: That would depend on your MTA but usually you would want to disable mbox
[14:40] <princethakur> how to list all chanel ?
[14:40] <princethakur> channel ?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> princethakur  type /join #freenode and ask there
[14:40] <mneptok> !offtopic
[14:40] <escott> thattechguy, thats the maildir vs mbox format difference
[14:41] <princethakur> lolz monkeydust  i think i will come here only ?
[14:41] <nOStahl> hi guys i was wanting to use the onboard video and a video card to run 3 displays what do I need to research to get this setup
[14:41] <lanceio> Im on ubuntu 12.04, I came here directly after 10.10, this new interface is shitty, and I want to get compiz-fusion, any leads?
[14:41] <thattechguy> BlueEagle, escott thanks I will research this
[14:41] <mneptok> lanceio: please watch your language.
[14:41] <lanceio> mneptok, my sincere appologies.
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| thattechguy
[14:41] <BlueEagle> !compiz | lanceio
[14:42] <thattechguy> MonkeyDust, didnt need that but thanks!
[14:42] <Dr_willis> lanceio,  unity does use compiz
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| lanceio (wrong nick)
[14:43] <lanceio> Dr_willis, I assumed that compiz would have the box interface.
[14:43] <Dr_willis> 'box interface' means what?
[14:43] <Dr_willis> compiz is a window manager. unity is plugin for compiz.
[14:44] <Fat-Thing> just want to ask im installing xp on my vbox which format should i select to format? ntfs or fat!? if ntfs can i still browse my files in ubuntu hard drive?
[14:44] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: compiz cube i imagine
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> lanceio  Unity = Gnome3 + Compiz
[14:44] <Dr_willis> Fat-Thing,  dozent really matter.  vbox has its own virtual hard drive.. :)
[14:44] <stjohnmedrano> good day, anyone knows a good proof reader in ubuntu?
[14:45] <Fat-Thing> thanx Dr_willis
[14:45] <lanceio> MonkeyDust, then why is it that CCSM isnt there?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> !ccsm > lanceio
[14:45] <Dr_willis> install ccsm if you want to use it.
[14:46] <Dr_willis> i recall a guide on the webupd8 blog site about making a custom 'compiz session' that runs just what you want.
[14:46] <auronandace> lanceio: ccsm can break unity
[14:46] <Dr_willis> the cube plugin can definatly break unity. :)
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> lanceio  to keep the live cd small enough to fit on one single cd, some programs are not included in the basic install
[14:47] <ngisemathandweni> Hello, Is there a way to change nautilus's background to an image, like in the older version?
[14:48] <hotland> im back
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> strangely, compiz is the first thing and want to get rid of ;)
[14:48] <auronandace> hotland: is it better than being forward?
[14:48] <hotland> i dont know how to pm :))
[14:48] <hotland> btw
[14:48] <hotland> since this is ubuntu
[14:49] <hotland> chat
[14:49] <auronandace> hotland: /msg nick whattosay
[14:49] <hotland> whats the loader when i instal ubuntu
[14:49] <bazhang> hotland, its support not chit chat
[14:49] <auronandace> !pm | hotland
[14:49] <bazhang> hotland, ubiquity if you mean the live cd
[14:49] <hotland> no
[14:49] <hotland> i mean
[14:49] <hotland> the loader which built in when i instal ubuntu
[14:50] <hotland> that will ask which os to boot
[14:50] <ngisemathandweni> So is there no way to change nautilus's background to an image, like in the older version?
[14:50] <bazhang> !grub2 | hotland
[14:50] <hotland> whyup thats it
[14:50] <bazhang> ngisemathandweni, patience
[14:50] <hotland> is grub2 support other os
[14:50] <ngisemathandweni> sorry
[14:50] <hotland> example i instal ubuntu back track and windows
[14:51] <bazhang> hotland, please put everything on ONE line
[14:51] <hotland> will grub2 list them all in boot menu?
[14:51] <lanceio> why would they remove the cube interface? why not build it into unity?
[14:51] <bazhang> hotland, read the grub2 wiki linked above yet?
[14:52] <ktchk> heekscnc need libboost-python 1.42 ubuntu 12.04 have 1.46 as default is it possible to put 1.42 to ubuntu12.04?
[14:52] <lanceio> and what is the <Primary> key?
[14:52] <lanceio> is it the same as <Super> ?
[14:52] <lanceio> !primary
[14:53] <Dr_willis> hotland,  'backtrack linux' is not 'ubuntu'
[14:53] <Dr_willis> hotland,  and most every linux disrto  out there installs grub, or some sort of bootloader for dual booting.
[14:53] <hotland> but its same unix based
[14:54] <Dr_willis> hotland,  Unix is not the same as Linux. :)
[14:54] <hotland> oh..my bad
[14:54] <Dr_willis> lanceio,  the cube interface is basically eyecandy you use to show off to your windows friends.. then turn it off. to get real work done.
[14:54] <hotland> but the syntax is same if im not wrong
[14:54] <bazhang> hotland, backtrack is not supported here
[14:55] <bazhang> !backtrack | hotland
[14:55] <Dr_willis> hotland,  depends on what you mean by syntax. the bash shell.. is the bash shell  :)
[14:55] <mi3> when my ubuntu is shutdown graphically, it does not ask for a password, but when its shutdown from the terminal, it asks for the password, any suggestions on how which command must be getting invoked when shutting down graphically?
[14:55] <bazhang> hotland, /join #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[14:55] <lanceio> mi3 I think its got to do with suid and guid bits
[14:55] <Dr_willis> mi3,  how are you shutting it down from the terminal?
[14:55] <Beelsebob> so… Apparently GRUB hangs on the menu if no screen is attached… this is stopping my VM from starting headless
[14:55] <Beelsebob> anyone got any idea how to fix that?
[14:55] <hotland> okay i will try to consult on backtrack chat
[14:55] <mi3> Dr_willis, sudo shutdown -h now
[14:56] <Dr_willis> mi3,  you can edit the sudoers file to allow that without a password.
[14:56] <lanceio> Dr_willis, I dont think thats a good idea to do that
[14:56] <mi3> Dr_willis, never ventured that deep before...
[14:56] <lanceio> dont you think thats a tad dangerous?
[14:57] <Dr_willis> lanceio,  depends on what  his setup.
[14:57] <Dr_willis> compared to stuff ive seen other users do in here... :) its not as badd as some things.
[14:57] <lanceio> mi3, my suggestion is to do this: "sudo chmod +"x" /sbin/shutdown/"
[14:58] <Dr_willis> lanceio,  that makes no sence...
[14:58] <ktchk> heekscnc need libboost-python 1.42 ubuntu 12.04 have 1.46 as default is it possible to put 1.42 to ubuntu12.04?
[14:58] <Dr_willis> a executable is allready mode 'x'
[14:58] <karel_ff> Hi. Does anyone know why python2.6-dev doesn't exist in precise? Is python 2.6 just too old to maintain or are things now in another package?
[14:58] <mi3> lanceio, err I want a simple bash script that can be invoked after the transmission downloads have completed, Dr_willis so, the shutdown command should work there, thats all I want :D
[14:59] <lanceio> Dr_willis, im not sure of the syntax, let me check, its got to do with SUID and GUID bits. it allows normal users to execute a root's bin file
[14:59] <Dr_willis> lanceio,  using the suid bit is a MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger security hole then using the sudoers file/method.
[14:59] <mi3> hmm
[14:59] <ngisemathandweni> I'll take that as a no. lastly,  why can't i right-click the gnome panel in precise?
[14:59] <sancas19> i cant start windows
[14:59] <lanceio> Dr_willis, since I dont know much about that, im going to assume you are right (Y)
[14:59] <Dr_willis> mi3,   I thought transmission had that feature. but i havent really tried it lately.
[15:00] <ubuntu_64bit> Dr_willis,  need ya help on 64 bit ubuntu
[15:00] <Dr_willis> mi3,  you can set up the sudoers file to allow only that one user to use shutdown without a password.
[15:01] <ikonia> Dr_willis: doesn't the transmision user not have a valid shell ? he'll need a valid shell too I'd assume
[15:01] <pwasek> I am getting this messange when trying to join  a winxp to a samba PDC pc_server/srv_netlog_nt.c:669(_netr_ServerAuthenticate3)
[15:01] <pwasek>   _netr_ServerAuthenticate: no challenge sent to client TESTPC  then when i try to log in it says duplicate name on network any suggestions.  I am using LDAP for authenication
[15:01] <Dr_willis> ive never noticed a 'transmission' user....
[15:01] <Unkn0wn> join #freeradius
[15:01] <mi3> Dr_willis, I would very much like transmission to execute a script file, and shutdown the pc after the downloads were complete, what will be good suggestion?
[15:01] <ikonia> Dr_willis: I'm working from memory, so I don't know
[15:01] <ikonia> Dr_willis: but I think you are right that it can do it from within the application, so there is no need for a script
[15:01] <ubuntu_64bit> Dr_willis,  need ya help on 64 bit ubuntu
[15:01] <Dr_willis> mi3,  its possible it has that feature. ive not used it in ages.
[15:02] <mi3> Dr_willis, ikonia transmission is a file sharing app
[15:02] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_64bit,  ask the question to the channel and see who answers.
[15:02] <ikonia> mi3: I know what it is
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> !ask| ubuntu_64bit
[15:02] <mi3> ikonia, what does the shell[or whatever you guys are talking about] have to do with this? can you suggest?
[15:03] <ikonia> mi3: I think Dr_willis is correct in that you can tell transmision to shutdown, you don't need a script to shutdown the machine, transmision can shut it down for you
[15:03] <Dr_willis> transmission also has a web interface. :) but i normally use other torrent clients.
[15:03] <ubuntu_64bit> Dr_willis, difference betwwen 32 bit and 64 bit operating system
[15:03] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_64bit,  the # of bits..
[15:03] <hotland> i cant connect at backtrack so i will stay here first
[15:03] <hotland> btw
[15:03] <ikonia> Dr_willis: ah, the web interface maybe what uses the non-shell enabled user
[15:04] <sancas19> when i try to start linux i got this error ALERT! /dev/mapper/isw_eefggigcd_Volume0p7 does not exist
[15:04] <ikonia> hotland: #backtrack-linux is the channel to use
[15:04] <Dr_willis> http://lifehacker.com/5431284/the-lifehacker-guide-to-64+bit-vs-32+bit-operating-systems
[15:04] <Pici> hotland: You need to register to speak there.
[15:04] <hotland> is it advisable to instal a mac theme on ubuntu
[15:04] <sancas19> and load a initframfs shell
[15:04] <Pici> !register > hotland
[15:04] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, difference betwwen 32 bit and 64 bit operating system
[15:04] <Pici> hotland: We will NOT support backtrack here.
[15:04] <mi3> ikonia, I dont have that option, I guess, there is only an option to execute a script file or something, I have tried that, then I downloaded some apps, then when the script was executed, it said permission denied[the script contained shutdown command] :D
[15:04] <Dr_willis> hotland,  if you have to ask such things.. I think Backtrack is NOT the disrto for you to be using..
[15:04] <hotland> im not asking about backtrack here
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_64bit  if you have 64bit hardware, you can use ubuntu 64bit
[15:05] <Pici> hotland: Its competely up to you what themes you want to use.
[15:05] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_64bit,   http://lifehacker.com/5431284/the-lifehacker-guide-to-64+bit-vs-32+bit-operating-systems
[15:05] <hotland> so it wont slow down ubuntu if i did it
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> how come lsusb shows my negatives scanner and xsane cant find it?
[15:05] <ikonia> mi3: I'd certainly check for the auto shutdown option, I agree with Dr_willis that there is one
[15:05] <Dr_willis> hotland,  if you are refering to that 'macbuntu' theme/script.. DONT use it.
[15:05] <hotland> why
[15:05] <monotux> lotuspsychje: xsane might lack drivers for it. try vuescan.
[15:05] <Dr_willis> ikonia,  i dont see it  in transmission. but i may be overlooking it.
[15:05] <hotland> i think thats the one i saw on youtube
[15:05] <mi3> ikonia, I will forward the screenshot of the preferences window of transmission
[15:05] <Dr_willis> hotland,  macbuntu = breaks your system.
[15:05] <ikonia> Dr_willis: not got it here to check
[15:06] <hotland> lol,why
[15:06] <ikonia> mi3: don't need a screenshot, if you say it's not there, I'll not doubt you
[15:06] <hotland> as i see it just modified the icons
[15:06] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, what are the hardwares that are capable of handling  64bit
[15:06] <Dr_willis> hotland,  macbuntu = breaks your system.... im not going to trouble shoot it...
[15:06] <mi3> ikonia, err ok
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> monotux: i tryed vuescan, same problem it cant find the scanner
[15:06] <hotland> have you tried it before?
[15:06] <Dr_willis> hotland,   no it does not.. and its known to break a lot of things.. and i dont even think it works in 12.04 any more
[15:07] <hotland> oh
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_64bit  type lshw|less to find out what hardware you have --nowadays, most pcs are 64bit capable
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> monotux: its a grundig digital filmscanner(for negatives) cant find any drivers for it
[15:07] <hotland> but i i like the default wallpaper of 12
[15:07] <monotux> lotuspsychje: in that case, i'm guessing for scanner is too old even for vuescan or broken
[15:07] <hotland> color pink if thats the color im not good at color
[15:07] <mi3> Dr_willis, so the best suggestion is modifying the sudoers file, right?
[15:07] <monotux> lotuspsychje: vuescan usually handles any scanner launched since the 90-ies
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> monotux:its a brand new bought hardware
[15:07] <monotux> oh
[15:08] <monotux> in that case it's too new :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:08] <monotux> what scanner is it?
[15:08] <hotland> btw can i ask u guys why you use ubuntu?
[15:08] <Dr_willis> mi3,  sudores file will let a single user, run specific apps as root without  needing a password. if set up properly
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> monotux:grundig digital filmscanner
[15:08] <kinenkaya> hotland: macbuntu doesn't work in 12.04.
[15:08] <bazhang> hotland, inn #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <hotland> for me ubuntu is much faster than other os
[15:08] <hotland> ow
[15:08] <Dr_willis> macbuntu barely worked... ever...
[15:08] <hotland> sorry
[15:08] <monotux> lotuspsychje: oh, you're a photographer?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> monotux:not yet mate :p if i get it working
[15:08] <monotux> heh :)
[15:08] <mi3> Dr_willis, ok.. :D I will find out how to use and modify the sudoers file :D
[15:09] <monotux> i'm using an old minolta scan dual for my negatives
[15:09] <monotux> works wonders with vuescan
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> monotux: did you have to install drivers for it?
[15:09] <Dr_willis> mi3,  there are some tools to controll transmission from your cellphone  if you wanted to go that way. :)
[15:09] <monotux> now I only need a medium format scanner as well :(
[15:09] <monotux> lotuspsychje: i'm using vuescan, it's plug'n'pray...play
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:10] <monotux> oh well, time to go to the lab and do some actual work
[15:10] <monotux> bbl
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> monotux: i also tryed it 64bit but scan button didnt work for me
[15:10] <mi3> Dr_willis, I dont use GPRS every now and then [the operator is a little hopeless, likes to make money without asking]
[15:10] <mi3> lol
[15:10] <P-Nuts> I have a trackball that needs a few xinput commands to configure just how I like it.  How best to make these permanent on a system-wide basis?  Should I edit something in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/?
[15:10] <ubuntu_64bit>  MonkeyDust wait i will give you the link from the patsebin
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> any other ideas howto grab scan images from my negative scanner (shows in lsusb)
[15:11] <ngisemathandweni> well, thanks anyway.
[15:12] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  gimp had a aquire feature i thought.
[15:12] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  but it most likely uses the SANE drivers.
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: i also tryed the scan function with gimp, didnt work
[15:12] <Dr_willis> sounds unsuported to me. :()
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: is it normal a device shows up in lsusb and still dont work?
[15:13] <lanceio> I have a ps/2 keyboard I cut the connector and attached a usb connector, how do I make it work now?
[15:13] <MoTec> lanceio: you're kidding, right?
[15:13] <ktchk> gimp scan need sane as a back end
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> lanceio: you can boot it from BIOS
[15:13] <lanceio> I wanted to see if a ps/2 port would float
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> ktchk: got other ideas?
[15:14] <Dr_willis> lotuspsychje,  err.. just because lsusb sees it.. doesnet mean the drivers exist to support it...
[15:14] <archboxman> lotuspsychje: No, have a Samsung printer that has no driver that shows up in the lsusb ,but doesnt function need a hp printer! :(
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis:oh okay
[15:14] <Dr_willis> lsusb just scans the usb ports and prints out the id info each device gives.
[15:14] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/987288/ then tell me how  could i detect that if its ya 64bit
[15:14] <lanceio> lotuspsychje, can you expand?
[15:14] <ktchk> lotuspsychje: install sane and gimp can call the scanner up
[15:14] <MoTec> anything will float, given enough boyancy
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> ktchk: gimp doesnt show device, already tryed
[15:14] <Dr_willis> id check the sane homepage, and the forums and askubuntu.com to see about that scanner.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: ok tnx mate
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_64bit  line 62: width 64bits, looks ok
[15:15] <lanceio> MoTec, turns out it didnt
[15:15] <MoTec> buoyancy*
[15:15] <Auriga> Hi, Q: Are gnome 2 themes compatible with MATE?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_64bit  typo: line 22
[15:15] <ktchk> lotuspsychje: which ubuntu?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> ktchk: precise 64bit
[15:16] <lanceio> whoever told me that cube interface was a bad idea, you were right!
[15:16] <auronandace> Auriga: mate isn't supported here
[15:16] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, line 62 is this        physical id: 2.1
[15:16] <ktchk> lotuspsychje: is sane installed?
[15:16] <Samuel> test
[15:17] <auronandace> !test | Samuel
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> ktchk:xsane installed
[15:17] <Samuel> #test
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> ktchk: should i also install sane?
[15:17] <mneptok> lotuspsychje: lsusb will gladly identify devices for which no Linux driver exists.
[15:17] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust,  line 22 is this       width: 64 bits
[15:18] <Dr_willis> to use any scanner.. i thought sane was needed...
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !yay| ubuntu_64bit
[15:18] <ktchk> lotuspsychje: callup xsane in terminal will see your scanner
[15:18] <lanceio> whats the difference between lsusb and dmesg?
[15:18] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, is it possible for my machine to run 64bit os
[15:18] <archboxman> #test
[15:18] <Guest55496> hi
[15:18] <compdoc> dmesg is a log that can show errors and sucess
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> ktchk: didnt show up my device on xsane, lemme try install sane
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_64bit  computer says yes
[15:19] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust,  let me try
[15:19] <Guest55496> i have a question about bumblebee, does intel core 2 duo cpu t6600 include an onboard GPU. the easynote tj65 laptop comes with a discrete nvidia but the fans are noisy so i would like to either underclock the cpu or disable the nvidia gpu
[15:20] <ubuntu_64bit> MonkeyDust, let me try
[15:20] <ktchk> lotuspsychje: try simple-scan
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> brb gonna eat first
[15:21] <conradk> Ubuntu #rocks :P
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> ** (simple-scan:4441): WARNING **: scanner.vala:771: No scan device available
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:24] <khaktoos> Justin Bieber sucks and whoever likes it is either a slut or a faggot.
[15:24] <BlueEagle> !language | khaktoos
[15:24] <compdoc> Justin Bieber?! where?!!!
[15:24] <thattechguy> if i need to watch multiple dirs with incrontab do I just enter each dir and script on a new line?
[15:27] <Guest55496> i have a question about bumblebee, does intel core 2 duo cpu t6600 include an onboard GPU. the easynote tj65 laptop comes with a discrete nvidia but the fans are noisy so i would like to either underclock the cpu or disable the nvidia gpu
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest55496  is that ubuntu related or nvidia related?
[15:28] <Guest55496> MonkeyDust: i dont know... i only want my laptop to be not noisy
[15:29] <Guest55496> is there a command to check if i have an onboard gpu?
[15:29] <Guest55496> intel core 2 duo t6600 laptop
[15:29] <Guest55496> in the laptop
[15:29] <Guest55496> thanks for any help
[15:29] <Guest55496> in advance
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest55496  guess you've come to the wrong place, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:29] <Guest55496> ok thanks
[15:31] <BlueEagle> Guest55496: I do believe the i3, i5 and i7s are the only ones with integrated GPUs and that the C2Ds only had external GPUs. Then again I would think Intel used their own GPUs instead of building in nVidia technology,.
[15:32] <mneptok> BlueEagle: i don;t think Intel makes an APU. i think all GPUs are discrete chipsets on Intel hardware.
[15:32]  * mneptok does not follow such things closely
[15:32] <Guest55496> BlueEagle: i have the nvidia gt240m and want to disable it and use the onboard gpu because the laptop is noisy
[15:33] <BlueEagle> mneptok: So thought I but Google indicate otherwise.
[15:33] <mneptok> Guest55496: if you have multiple GPUs, switching is usually done with a hardware switch, a BIOS setting, and/or custom control panels for Windows.
[15:33] <Guest55496> mneptok: how can i tell if i have dual gpus?
[15:34] <Guest55496> i reallz dont know if the core 2 duo t6600 has an onboard gpu
[15:34] <Guest55496> really
[15:34] <mneptok> Guest55496: do you have a hardware switch, a BIOS setting, or a custom Windows control panel?
[15:34] <BlueEagle> Guest55496: The motherboard specs would probably tell you so the vendor web pages is a less wrong place to ask.
[15:34] <Guest55496> didnt find it in bios, no hardware switch
[15:34] <mneptok> Guest55496: then you probably do not.
[15:34] <openvoid_> try lspci | grep VGA
[15:35] <openvoid_> if it sow two, there are two of them
[15:35] <Guest55496> only one
[15:35] <Guest55496> hmm
[15:35] <Guest55496> the laptop is so noisy
[15:35] <openvoid_> if not it means nothing
[15:35] <Guest55496> in windows too
[15:35] <openvoid_> it can be disabled in bios
[15:36] <Guest55496> ok i look there again
[15:36] <Guest55496> thanks
[15:36] <Guest55496> bye
[15:38] <toa> hi
[15:38] <WaterRatj> Can anyone help me how to set my keyboard to my belgian period one from cli?
[15:38] <pwasek>   _netr_ServerAuthenticate: no challenge sent to client TESTPC  then when i try to log in it says duplicate name on network any suggestions.  I am using LDAP for authenication
[15:39] <openvoid_> WaterRatj, try loadkeys _some_
[15:39] <cheryl> Hi, wot do I do if my version of Ubuntu is no longer supported but my pc hardware is not good enough for the latest version?? :(
[15:40] <anil> Good question.
[15:40] <auronandace> !lubuntu | cheryl
[15:40] <cheryl> I'm so frustrated!!
[15:40] <mneptok> cheryl: choose Xubuntu or some other lighter derivative.
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> cheryl  not good enough?
[15:41] <cheryl> auronandace, I'd kiss you, but too many ppl looking, ty!! ;)
[15:41] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, I tried running it on a live cd 'n nothing! :(
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis:seems like the sane webpage doesnt show my device brand : (
[15:42] <cheryl> MonkeyDust, my pc has not been upgraded in YEARS!!
[15:42] <auronandace> cheryl: what are the specs? i got a t40 running xubuntu 12.04 fine
[15:43] <cyborg_> hey i am using kubuntu 10.04 and my network manager is not connecting to mobile broadband
[15:43] <cheryl> auronandace, I'm not exactly sure where to see the specs....must I look in cmos?
[15:43] <auronandace> cheryl: what os do you have on it now?
[15:43] <cheryl> auronandace, my concerns are I won't be able to connect using my mobile b/band dongle...
[15:43] <cousteau> is anyone able to add annotations in Evince on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:44] <cyborg_> how to connect to a mobile broadband with knetworkmanager
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> cyborg_  #kubuntu may be the channel you want
[15:44] <cheryl> auronandace, Ubuntu 10.04 I believe. although it says 11.04 Natty, must've gradually updated 2 that 'cos I didn't change it.
[15:44] <cyborg_> join #kubuntu
[15:45] <haruband> Hello, anybody knows when ubuntu supports wayland window manager officially?
[15:45] <auronandace> cheryl: pastebin the output of: lspci
[15:45] <cheryl> auronandace, It runs fine but I can't install updates 'n restricted extras
[15:46] <auronandace> cheryl: can't install updates? sounds like you got 10.10 which is no longer supported
[15:46] <cousteau> haruband, as far as I know wayland is not a window manager, it's not even a desktop environment, it's a whole display server
[15:47] <cousteau> just like X Window
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> haruband  what cousteau  says, it's a replacement for X
[15:47] <cousteau> auronandace, I think 10.10 repositories are still working
[15:47] <cyborg_> MonkeyDust:i am using ubuntu 10.04 ,i recently installed kde.
[15:48] <BlueEagle> haruband: It has not been decided yet.
[15:48] <auronandace> cousteau: i doubt it
[15:48] <cousteau> auronandace, I have 10.10 at home and I'm still able to install stuff
[15:48] <cousteau> or at least was a few days ago
[15:49] <thattechguy> can i get postfix to clear the queue after a certain age?
[15:49] <cheryl> auronandace, Yeah, that sounds right...so now what?? :) I use a Three mobile b/band dongle that I've finally managed 2 get working fairly easily......doubt xubuntu or lubuntu will support it??
[15:49] <thattechguy> or clear messages from the queue once they reach a certain age I should say
[15:49] <auronandace> cousteau: you swapped the repos to oldreleases?
[15:49] <cheryl> auronandace, was I meant to do somming with the pastebin thingy? lol
[15:49] <openvoid_> 10.04 server can last for another 2 years with updates
[15:49] <eightieskhild> no matter what I do Gimp will not open, it crashes anytime i try to run it. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it several times, as well as trying it from a diffrent Repo. I use ubutnu precise. I am lost.
[15:49] <cousteau> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/ -> see?  still there...  only, no updates
[15:49] <wifioregon> How do I record my desktop into a video?  I'm using 12.04 and mainly use gnome but still have unity if needed
[15:49] <cousteau> auronandace, nope
[15:49] <REK_007> cheryl: xubuntu and lubuntu are primarily same as ubuntu itself ... AFAIK
[15:49] <wifioregon> I want to capture the desktop so I can create a guide
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> wifioregon  try kazam
[15:50] <wifioregon> thanks
[15:50] <cousteau> REK_007, both use NetworkManager, so yes
[15:50] <cheryl> auronandace, okay, I'll try lubuntu then, what is AFAIK?
[15:50] <auronandace> cousteau: don't count on it staying there, it could be repurposed since 10.10 is eol
[15:50] <wifioregon> MonkeyDust: I'll try Kazam thanks. INstalling now
[15:50] <auronandace> cheryl: as far as i know
[15:50] <cousteau> auronandace, I know, I'm in the mood of upgrading
[15:50] <cousteau> actually I'm testing xubuntu 12.04 on this computer
[15:51] <cheryl> auronandace, DOH!! Thank you. lol
[15:51] <auronandace> cheryl: cheryl lubuntu uses the same repos
[15:51] <REK_007> cheryl: As Far As I Know
[15:51] <cheryl> auronandace, cool, I'll be back if there's trouble, I have irc on my android too now! lol
[15:51] <auronandace> cheryl: if your dongle works in ubuntu it should in lubuntu, the underlying system is the same
[15:51] <rar> wifioregon: if kazam doesn't work for you try xvidcap
[15:52] <cheryl> auronandace, Cool banana's, thanks. I'll be back, no doubt. ttfn.
[15:52] <auronandace> cousteau: xfce is my favourite but i've been pleasantly surprised by unity
[15:52] <auronandace> cheryl: have fun
[15:52] <anil> what bout that kiss
[15:52] <cheryl> auronandace, do I want 64 bit???
[15:53] <auronandace> cheryl: if your system is 64bit capable
[15:53] <cheryl> anil,  you perve!! lol
[15:53] <Na_Klar> slightly ubuntu related: what does one use for command-line audio re-encoding/resampling for audio material with more than 2 (even more than 8 ) channels? Since ffmpeg is not designed for that ..
[15:53] <anil> :_)
[15:53] <cheryl> auronandace, How do I know/find out?
[15:53] <cousteau> auronandace, I got annoyed by the way alt-tab and dash work and intimidated by the amount of resources my 64 MB video card would probably not be able to supply, so I decided to give xfce a try
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> rar:xvidcap is dead on precise, kazam is the best
[15:53] <pgib> Hey guys. I'm confused.  I want to install ubuntu on a friend's computer. I am out of blank CDs.  I want to boot the install media from a USB drive.  However, the instructions on the Ubuntu site are target to Windows users and say to use this:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[15:53] <auronandace> cheryl: look up your processor
[15:54] <pgib> But I wish to prepare the USB drive in linux.  and I don't really want to screw around with grub today.  any other options?
[15:54] <cheryl> auronandace, can't I marry u instead?? :P
[15:54] <nannes> I have to install ubuntu on 30 PCs of a network. So I'll use network installation. The issue is: I have an already-configured ubuntu-box by which I made an image .img. I need to install *that* image to the others PCs cause it's been already set correctly!!
[15:54] <nannes> How can I do that?
[15:54] <eightieskhild> !gimp
[15:54] <cousteau> so...  I think I'm affected by bug 984878 - is this bug already fixed?  (bug:  can't add annotations to PDFs in Evince)
[15:54] <khaktoos> !lsb
[15:55] <khaktoos> Justin Bieber sucks and whoever likes it is either a slut or a faggot.
[15:55] <clone1018> ok
[15:55] <cheryl> auronandace, they do a 32 bit .iso, I'm playing safe! :)
[15:55] <cousteau> pgib, not the answer you're looking for, but have you considered buying CD-RW?
[15:55] <haruband> BlueEagle: Thank you. I have some problem with wayland building, so i am curious to find out ubuntu official supporting.
[15:55] <pgib> cousteau, I'm stranded right now
[15:55]  * cheryl grabs auronandace with both hands and gently 'n passionately kisses him/her full on the mouth!
[15:56] <P-Nuts> cheryl, "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will tell you what processor you have
[15:56] <cheryl> anil, there, you happy now?
[15:56] <rar> lotuspsychje: good to know. I've not upgraded to 12 myself yet. I helped a friend who lost his home directory on upgrade because it was encrypted (it was recovered)
[15:56] <anil> ;-)
[15:56] <cheryl> P-Nuts, Thanks, you want a kiss too? :P
[15:56] <cousteau> pgib, don't usbcreator or unetbootin suit your needs?
[15:56] <linXea> oh my, this place it busy.. 1733 peeps, pretty cool
[15:57] <cheryl> auronandace, Intel pentium 5 3 ghz, not as bad as I thought??
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> linXea  1733 logged in, not all of them busy
[15:57] <ducer> hi, anyone with qualcomm gobi 2000 ?
[15:58] <P-Nuts> cheryl, no, we wouldn't want to make auronandace jealous
[15:58] <cheryl> auronandace, Intel pentium 4, 3 ghz, not as bad as I thought??
[15:58] <cheryl> P-Nuts, auronandace didn't even BLINK!!!
[15:58] <auronandace> cheryl: i was about to ask where you got the 5 from
[15:58] <cousteau> cool! just what I have at home, a P4
[15:59] <cheryl> auronandace, typo, bonjour mon ami.....did you enjoy my French kiss? :)
[15:59] <anil> i njoyed it
[15:59] <anil> ;-)
[15:59] <auronandace> cheryl: lets stick to support shall we
[15:59] <bazhang> cheryl, stop that
[15:59] <cheryl> anil, you  need help!
[15:59] <cheryl> I'm going, I'm going!
[15:59] <cheryl> Thanks guys!
[16:02] <ServerCrash> is there any way to ensure that Xorg detects the monitor changed, without restarting the X or server at large
[16:02] <nannes> I have to install ubuntu on 30 PCs of a network. So I'll use network installation. The issue is: I have an already-configured ubuntu-box by which I made an image .img. I need to install *that* image to the others PCs cause it's been already set correctly!!
[16:02] <nannes> How can I do that?
[16:03] <ServerCrash> nannes, use clonezilla
[16:04] <nannes> ServerCrash: does it work good even if partition-size are not the same for every pc?
[16:04] <nannes> and.... have you ever used it ?
[16:04] <JC617> anyone know where i can find a list of commands installed by default on Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS??
[16:04] <ServerCrash> nannes it will clone entire hdd
[16:05] <fattobpee> ?
[16:05] <milen8204> WHy i have no additional drivers for  ATI 9250 256MB AGP Graphics Card DDR2 Memory AGP 3D Dvi S-video Card?
[16:05] <ServerCrash> nannes, so each machine will have same partions and same sizes, existing content on the hdd will gone
[16:05] <nannes> ServerCrash: nono I need to clone only a partition
[16:05] <nannes> nono
[16:05] <ServerCrash> ok, then you got to look into clonezilla about how to do that
[16:05] <ServerCrash> it must be able to do that too
[16:05] <nannes> I don't need that. There's another OS in everyone of them
[16:06] <ServerCrash> give that it does a lot of kinds of clonning, network, disk to disk, image to disk etc etc
[16:06] <Jim1> Anybody here heard of the Zeitgeist spyware ? Check your filesystem for "zeitgeist" - it's bad news !
[16:06] <ServerCrash> nannes, have a look at there site
[16:06] <auronandace> their
[16:06] <obscurant1st> What do you call the harddsik comes with external powersupply and sits on top of the desk?
[16:06] <nannes> ServerCrash: ok... but, I was thinking... what about mbr?Can I do a clone for it too, even if partition sizes aren't the same?
[16:06] <smw> obscurant1st, an external hard drive
[16:06] <JC617> need to verify if rsync and scp come shipped with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or if then need to be installed first (if so, anyone can point be to something that verifies this)?
[16:07] <JC617> me*
[16:07] <obscurant1st> smw: is there any specifi name for this thing?, I mean isn't the passport drives also known as external harddisk drive?
[16:07] <obscurant1st> specific*
[16:08] <smw> obscurant1st, there is no special name for an external hard drive that needs power
[16:08] <obscurant1st> smw: okay!:)
[16:08] <nannes> ServerCrash: I'm doing it, but there aren't answer to that last question ^^
[16:08] <smw> obscurant1st, and yes, a passport drive is also an external drive :-)
[16:08] <nannes> I'd like an opinion from someone who used it..
[16:08] <pgib> cousteau, no. usbcreator is on Linux.  I find it so odd that ubuntu makes it sooo simple to create a drive from Windows, but there isn't a reasonable way to create it in Ubuntu itself.  Oh well. I guess I'll try just doing a `dd` or something and see if it works.  who knows..
[16:09] <pgib> *usbcreator is for Windows, sorry
[16:09] <cousteau> pgib, yes, you run sudo apt-get install usbcreator and...  oh wait, no, that's on ubuntu
[16:10] <cousteau> d'oh, never mind, they removed it from repos
[16:10] <plm> please, anyone can help me with autohide left bar in unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.4?
[16:11] <cousteau> pgib, "usb-creator-gtk" is on repos
[16:11] <pgib> cousteau, hmm. unetbootn seems to work.  I really think the install guide needs to be tweaked.  but this should work I hope
[16:11] <cousteau> and actually I think usb-creator is already installed
[16:12] <rabbi1> how many of you had a safe and easy ubuntu 12.04 installation with all your working applications ?\
[16:12] <rabbi1> rabbi1: !offtopic
[16:12] <nbjensen> Hi. Why does find . | grep "string" work, but: find . | grep "string string" just returns instantly? Can't grep handle spaces
[16:13] <anil> me.
[16:13] <REK_007> rabbi1: am running xubuntu perfectly so far
[16:13] <DexterF_> greetings
[16:14] <auronandace> rabbi1: fresh install is great here
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto get this to recognize device: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:1550 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. VEHO Filmscanner
[16:14] <mneptok> !polls | rabbi1
[16:14] <DexterF_> got a 10.04 here, would like to upgrade to 12.04. system won't let me.
[16:14] <unomi> anyone experimented with ubuntuOne and common dotfiles etc?
[16:14] <rabbi1> good to know at least three of them, i think i need to have poll, will be back guys :)
[16:14] <cousteau> nbjensen, why not just   find . -name "*string string*"   ?
[16:14] <DexterF_> update-manager -c shows no 12.04
[16:14] <P-Nuts> nbjensen, use "find -name" or "find -regex" instead of piping to grep
[16:15] <DexterF_> do-release-upgrade : no go either
[16:15] <mneptok> DexterF_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:15] <llutz> nbjensen: grep handles spaces, are you sure there is a "read space" between those 2 words, not a tab?
[16:15] <REK_007> DexterF_: a fresh install would be better
[16:15] <DexterF_> REK_007: why?
[16:15] <REK_007> often system breaks while upgrading
[16:15] <rabbi1> mneptok: not taking poll, i can do it only if i know the max users and min users value, else it's just opinion :P
[16:16] <llutz> nbjensen: and btw, "grep -r path/ pattern"  no need for find
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> DexterF_  fresh install is fresher
[16:16] <phunyguy> hello everyone, Ubuntu 12.04, iPhone 4s and banshee/rhythmbox.  Is it supported yet to sync the devices with my music library? In banshee it goes through the motions, but there is no music on the device when I disconnect.  Rhythmbox didnt seem to work at all.
[16:16] <llutz> err "grep -r pattern path"  *
[16:16] <gbrt> Hey guys, Empathy just won't connect and it seems to be a "proxy" problem. It seems that it doesn't gets the system wide proxy preferences. Any thoughts about that?
[16:17] <nbjensen> llutz: works with -r, guess the find . part messed something up
[16:17] <nbjensen> llutz: thanks!
[16:17] <rabbi1> gbrt: personally, never felt happy with empathy, i would suggest pidgin\
[16:17] <mneptok> rabbi1: "10:12 < rabbi1> how many of you ....."  <--- that is a poll. please don't.
[16:18] <rabbi1> mneptok: sure.... np
[16:18] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[16:18] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[16:18] <CrazyGangster> http://i46.tinypic.com/2i9nvwm.png
[16:18] <gbrt> rabbi1, yeah, I have get this answer before. :)
[16:18] <gbrt> rabbi1, Seems like you're not alone on that.
[16:18] <ssbr_> how do I access the preferences menu from the command-line? (I have turned off unity / am using xmonad)
[16:18] <gbrt> rabbi1, With pidgin it does works outta the box?
[16:18] <ssbr_> I want to change some global settings, like the default font (which is some weird proprietary Canonical font)
[16:18] <ssbr_> eh, default monospace font
[16:19] <rabbi1> gbrt: i am happy with what pidgin offers, easy for me.....
[16:19] <CrazyGangster> some1?
[16:19] <gbrt> rabbi1, Yeah, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
[16:20] <rabbi1> ssbr_: version ?
[16:20] <ssbr_> rabbi1: uh, how do I check?
[16:20] <ssbr_> I didn't install this OS.
[16:20] <james296> does anyone here know if its at all possible to remove the blank spacing in the left hand side of the Go menu?
[16:21] <james296> or any of the other menus?
[16:21] <rabbi1> ssbr_: how is it to look ?
[16:21] <ssbr_> rabbi1: I don't understand
[16:22] <rabbi1> ssbr_: do u know to use terminal ?
[16:22] <ssbr_> rabbi1: Yes.
[16:22] <ssbr_> aha, found it
[16:22] <ssbr_> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:23] <ssbr_> how do I open the system settings in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, from the command line?
[16:23] <rabbi1> ssbr_: o great, install ubuntu-tweak......
[16:23] <rabbi1> ssbr_: from ubuntu-tweak u will be able to change all fonts
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> ssbr_  gnome-control-settings
[16:24] <ssbr_> rabbi1: I just want to open the normal system configuration menu
[16:24] <ssbr_> MonkeyDust: thank you
[16:24] <ssbr_> eh, you mean -center right?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> ssbr_  center, not settings, correct
[16:25] <nannes> I have to install ubuntu on 30 PCs of a network through network installation, cloning an already-configured linux partition to every pc, with clonezilla. The issue is: what about mbr? I think it's troubling to do a clone for it too, as the partition sizes aren't the same!!!
[16:25] <nannes> So, grub needs to be *installed* in every machine at the same time (and not cloned). How can I do it?
[16:25] <rabbi1> ssbr_: you can't change the font there
[16:26] <pwasek> I am getting this messange when trying to join  a winxp to a samba PDC pc_server/srv_netlog_nt.c:669(_netr_ServerAuthenticate3)
   _netr_ServerAuthenticate: no challenge sent to client TESTPC  then when i try to log in it says duplicate name on network any
[16:26] <ssbr_> man, what
[16:26] <ssbr_> you're right
[16:26] <ssbr_> what happened to the visual settings configuration menus? :(
[16:26] <joelio> I'm having realy difficlulty disabling screen blanking in 12.04 gnome-classic. I've disabled via gsettings and have an xset -dpms script.. but no joy, still get the screen blank
[16:27]  * joelio wonders if it's an nvidia driver issue or something
[16:27] <rabbi1> ssbr_: u moved from unity to gnome, some options are unavailable....
[16:27] <ssbr_> rabbi1: aren't they available on regular gnome systems?
[16:28] <rabbi1> ssbr_: nope, ubuntu-tweak is for your rescue......
[16:28] <rabbi1> ssbr_: also have a look at gnome extension site....
[16:28] <ssbr_> so wait, the only way to configure fonts on a gnome system is to download ubuntu-tweak
[16:29] <ssbr_> even though ubuntu-tweak is for ubuntu, which runs unity?
[16:29] <joelio> ssbr_: gnome-tweak-tool
[16:29] <fidel> ssbr_: you need the gnome-tweak-tool ;)
[16:29] <MarkiteN> ssbr_: find "myunity"
[16:29] <fidel> which has "gnome" in its name for the gnome-stuff
[16:29] <phunyguy> hello everyone, Ubuntu 12.04, iPhone 4s and banshee/rhythmbox.  Is it supported yet to sync the devices with my music library? In banshee it goes through the motions, but there is no music on the device when I disconnect.  Rhythmbox didnt seem to work at all.
[16:30] <MarkiteN> ssbr_: but if only you using 12.04 or above..
[16:30] <fidel> on the other hand there is myunity for the unity things ...and ubuntu-tweak for ...well partly both
[16:30] <ssbr_> I was sure this used to be less complicated
[16:30] <rabbi1> ssbr_: myunity is good too
[16:30] <fidel> isnt complicated at all ;)
[16:30] <ssbr_> fidel: on KDE you just open the system default config editor
[16:30] <fidel> ssbr_: then use kde ;)
[16:30] <ssbr_> rather than dealing with like 5 different suggestions for configuration editors
[16:31] <ssbr_> I don't even know how I'm running gnome.
[16:31] <ssbr_> I'm just running xmonad and gedit, man
[16:31] <fidel> ssbr_: select it at the login-manager
[16:31] <rabbi1> fidel: ssbr_: perfect. !! u made the choice. go ahead///
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> found USB scanner (vendor=0x05a9, product=0x1550) at libusb:001:002
[16:32] <lotuspsychje>   # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by
[16:32] <lotuspsychje>   # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
[16:33] <ssbr_> woot, that worked
[16:33] <ssbr_> thanks for your help folks
[16:33] <rabbi1> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:35]  * nannes goes to study the modern novel -.-
[16:38] <Asandari> I have a drive with two partitions on it, but it only shows one mount point (/dev/sdb1) with the full 2TBs. The partitions are encrypted. Is this normal? It was partitioned under windows so I'm assuming it's the MBR scheme.
[16:39] <drdozer> hi - I've managed to completely trash my /etc/apache2 directory
[16:39] <drdozer> what module should I reinstall to make it again?
[16:40] <Osakasa> Hi, is there a way to update HUD or check if i'm using the latest version? I'm playing music with Audacious and i have no control with HUD
[16:41] <haruband> Is there some useful filesystem recovery tool? I deleted some important directory bemistake.
[16:41] <haruband> My filesystem is ext4
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[16:42] <haruband> Thank you!
[16:43] <rabbi1> !great
[16:43] <Asandari> Ah, I see my problem. It's actually GPT, but fdisk doesn't support it either way.
[16:45] <sancas19> i cannot start ubuntu :(
[16:45] <rabbi1> I have installed a language, and added and changed input method as ibus in language settings. but i am unable to see the language in ibus to add it ..... ??
[16:49] <Ocelot_The_Cat> Test
[16:50] <sancas19> i got error http://pastebin.com/mrXtLyZM when i tryed enter to ubuntu
[16:50] <Sidewinder> Ocelot_The_Cat, It's workin'. :-)
[16:51] <Sidewinder> !pm > Ocelot_The_Cat
[16:52] <samsul> !pm > samsul
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> how come after sane found my negative scanner, xsane cant scan device?
[16:54] <osmosis> how do I get rid of the sticky windows stickey mouse behavior? the edge of the screen always grabs my cursor when I am trying to go between screens, and when I am trying to drag windows across too.
[16:55] <pgib> cousteau,  maybe this unetbootn program actually does suck.  The resulting device doesn't seem to boot.  Oh well.  I'll have to wait until I can get CDs and try the disk method I guess. Thanks for the help anyways
[16:56] <pgib> *the installed ubuntu partition doesn't boot. The USB drive did fine
[16:57] <phunyguy> hello everyone, Ubuntu 12.04, iPhone 4s and banshee/rhythmbox.  Is it supported yet to sync the devices with my music library? In banshee it goes through the motions, but there is no music on the device when I disconnect.  Rhythmbox didnt seem to work at all.
[16:59] <watermark> Why are the torrent links to the isos so buried...they used to be easy to find.  Where are torrent links, or the alternate isos for that matter?
[17:00] <iceroot> !torrents
[17:00] <iceroot> watermark:
[17:00] <watermark> thanks
[17:00] <wylde> osmosis: System Settings >> Displays   turn off sticky edges
[17:01] <ohad> hi
[17:02] <pgib> ok, this is a cool one: I used unetbootn to create a bootable USB. I installed onto my 128GB SDD drive.  The system only boots if my usb drive is in the system (then it starts up the OS installed on the internal SDD).  I guess I can just do a grub-install or something?
[17:03] <joao> hey
[17:03] <joao> anybody here?
[17:03] <joao> i need some help
[17:03] <bazhang> joao, ask a question then
[17:03] <phunyguy> !ask | joao
[17:05] <Un_Bagels> I have multiple users on my box, and I want them to both have auto-mount access to an external USB HDD, regardless of who else is logged in.  Is there an easy way to do this?
[17:05] <joao> okok. I'm Thinking on upgrading my ubuntu to 12.04. My current version. If i only had Ubuntu installed on the PC, it would be easy as pie. However, I also have windows installed (on a different partition). Will it override if i upgrade it from the update client?
[17:06] <lelamal_> joao: no
[17:07] <flavio_Pe> br?
[17:07] <wylde> !br | flavio_Pe
[17:08] <joao> there's no chance of that happening at all? Second question: I need to format a partition containing UBUNTU on my other PC. It also has windows 7 in it. My ubuntu partition is in ext4 format (i think this is how it's called) and the boot menu is grub. How do I format ubuntu's partition, and restore it to NTFS? Will I continue using GRUB as the boot menu?
[17:08] <flavio_Pe> tks
[17:11] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, my XFS partition is almost full and i need to grow the partition without lose my data
[17:11] <CrazyGangster> There is a way to change the partition beginning point without move all data to the first blocks (like gparted do)?
[17:12] <joao> I need to format a partition containing UBUNTU on my other PC. It also has windows 7 in it. My ubuntu partition is in ext4 format (i think this is how it's called) and the boot menu is grub. How do I format ubuntu's partition, and restore it to NTFS? Will I continue using GRUB as the boot menu?
[17:12] <Un_Bagels> I have multiple users on my box, and I want them to both have auto-mount access to an external USB HDD, regardless of who else is logged in.  Is there an easy way to do this?
[17:13] <lelamal_> !patience | joao
[17:13] <kapz> Un_Bagels, add user to plugdev group...
[17:13] <joao> my bad.
[17:13] <Un_Bagels> what iis plugdev kapz ?
[17:13] <Un_Bagels> I can add users, kapz i just wanted more info
[17:14] <kapz> it's a system group for mounting drives and such stuff...
[17:14] <Un_Bagels> *add users to groups
[17:15] <Un_Bagels> kapz and this will make auto-mount of external drives on login, and can have both user accounts accessing the same drive, theoretically simultaneously?
[17:16] <kapz> yes.....as far as I know...also you would have to give users permission to add/delete files on said partitions (by granting access to the dir in which usb partition is mounted)
[17:17] <rabbi1> just downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.49.run , how can i install it ?
[17:17] <Un_Bagels> tyvm kapz
[17:18] <Un_Bagels> If I make a new user, can I copy settings from user1 to user2 upon/after creation?
[17:18] <KM0201> rabbi1: why not just use the driver in the driver manager?
[17:18] <kapz> rabbi1, there should bea readme included or on the websitte...
[17:18] <kapz> ur welcome Un_Bagels
[17:19] <rabbi1> KM0201: tried all drivers available by default, but no luck, :(
[17:19] <systest> At the risk of sounding like a troll.  What are others who can't work with Gnome3||Unity  planning to do going forward?
[17:19]  * systest can't stay at natty forever
[17:19] <KM0201> rabbi1: hmm, which nvidia do you have?
[17:19] <bazhang> systest, #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:19] <skelterjohn_> hi - having an issue. when i try to log in it gets stuck saying "Logging in..."
[17:19] <rabbi1> 630a 7 series KM0201
[17:19] <kapz> Un_Bagels, that would be tricky to say...so not sure.
[17:19] <skelterjohn_> i can "sudo restart lightdm" via ssh, but still can't log in
[17:19] <KM0201> hmm, never heard of that one.
[17:20] <skelterjohn_> i just installed xmonad, and edited some xmonad specific files. then the problem started happening, so i uninstalled it and reverted those files
[17:20] <skelterjohn_> but i still can't log in
[17:20] <skelterjohn_> can anyone help me trouble-shoot?
[17:20] <bazhang> !enter | skelterjohn_
[17:20] <rabbi1> KM0201: 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] [10de:053b] (rev a2)
[17:21] <ainur> Hello. Recently I have upgraded my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. After my installation of VMware 4.0.3 there was a problem at vm tools/modules and I 've got that error: unable to start services for vmware . I searched a bit about it and I found a solution but in order to apply it I should install a script but I don't know if I should trust it. Do you have to propose me something about it? (PS I can paste the solution if you need, it was at askub
[17:21] <ainur> untu btw)
[17:21] <princethakur> pinky >
[17:21] <xizk> hello
[17:22] <skelterjohn_> hi - having an issue. when i try to log in it gets stuck saying "Logging in...". i can "sudo restart lightdm" via ssh, but still can't log in. i just installed xmonad, and edited some xmonad specific files. then the problem started happening, so i uninstalled it and reverted those files. but i still can't log in. can anyone help me trouble-shoot?
[17:22] <xizk> How do I "make" a file? :(
[17:22] <Fat-Thing> hi i got vbox on my ubuntu 10.04 with winxp sp3 but i can't find my ubuntu hard drives what seems to be the problem?
[17:22] <xizk> aka, have program and source, but tried using 'make' on it but it didn't work
[17:22] <osmosis> wylde, THANK YOU
[17:22] <skelterjohn_> xizk: you need to write a makefile
[17:23] <skelterjohn_> google "makefile tutorial"
[17:23] <xizk> it has one
[17:23] <oCean> skelterjohn_: please don't just send others to google
[17:23] <skelterjohn_> oCean: sometimes that's the best place for them to go.
[17:23] <xizk> i ran "make -f Makefile" within the directory
[17:23] <skelterjohn_> xizk: what does it say?
[17:23] <bazhang> skelterjohn_, dont do it here. ever.
[17:23] <Un_Bagels> If I make a new user, can I copy settings from user1 to user2 upon/after creation?
[17:24] <xizk> sometimes I like talking to actual people, instead of using a premade page
[17:24] <skelterjohn_> xizk: what does it say when you run make?
[17:24] <polandeer> Hello, I'm having problems building ffmpeg
[17:25] <ainur> Any thoughts about my VMware issue? :S
[17:25] <polandeer> The configure line is in the build section here (not trying to actually use an arch PKGBUILD): http://repo.stephenmac.com/sourcepkgs/ffmpeg/PKGBUILD
[17:25] <polandeer> Used instructions here: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[17:26] <polandeer> Error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/987495/
[17:26] <skelterjohn_> when i try to log in it gets stuck saying "Logging in...". i can "sudo restart lightdm" via ssh to get back to the startup screen, but still can't log in. i think it might be because i just installed xmonad, and edited some xmonad specific files - then the problem started happening immediately, so i uninstalled it and reverted those files. but i still can't log in. can anyone help me trouble-shoot?
[17:26] <polandeer> I successfully build x264
[17:26] <rabbi1> I have installed a language, and added and changed input method as ibus in language settings. but i am unable to see the language in ibus to add it ..... ??
[17:27] <polandeer> Anyone?
[17:27] <joao> http://askubuntu.com/questions/136925/how-do-i-format-my-format-my-ubuntu-partitionext4-and-keep-my-windows-partitio
[17:27] <xizk> it says a bunch of stuff
[17:28] <skelterjohn_> for instance? :) make a pastebin
[17:28] <Griffrez> Good Afternoon.
[17:28] <Griffrez> C:
[17:29] <joao> What is the portuguese or brazilian server/room?
[17:29] <arifin> Hi.all
[17:29] <Griffrez> Sei lá.
[17:29] <oCean> !br | joao
[17:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-br joao
[17:29] <polandeer> Okay, let me summarize it... Configure line: http://repo.stephenmac.com/sourcepkgs/ffmpeg/PKGBUILD (build() section); Tutorial: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide; Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/987495/
[17:29] <Griffrez> #ubuntu-pt
[17:29] <Griffrez> He wants #ubuntu-pt
[17:29] <Griffrez> Mostly likely
[17:29] <Griffrez> Most*
[17:30] <xizk> can I paste it to you in private?
[17:30] <arifin> Hi..
[17:30] <skelterjohn_> certainly
[17:30] <polandeer> xizk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:30] <skelterjohn_> i'm not a make expert, but i'm able to use it to do most basic things...so something might jump out at me
[17:31] <arifin> i can't install while log in kde dekstop..
[17:31] <polandeer> arifin: Even with 'sudo apt-get install package'
[17:31] <user1> how to reconfigure a package?
[17:32] <polandeer> dpkg-reconfigure package
[17:32] <user1> polandeer:  thx
[17:32] <Wade> =)hello
[17:33] <Griffrez> I'm not a current Ubuntu user... I'm mostly a gamer, so, I don't see much purpose. I'm not here to troll or anything, just saying.
[17:33] <samba35> hello
[17:33] <Griffrez> Greetings, fellow.
[17:33] <Wade> can anyone help me with my ubuntu please
[17:33] <samba35> can some one recommand good arm motherboard
[17:33] <polandeer> Wade: Just ask
[17:33] <Myr> Wade, what is the problem
[17:34] <samba35> and how much it cost
[17:34] <Wade> when i install ubuntu 12.04 or any linux os..the power n battery icon is missing..how to fix it
[17:34] <bazhang> !ot | samba35
[17:34] <oCean> samba35: try ##hardware channel
[17:34] <skelterjohn_> Ubuntu is getting stuck on the login screen - I enter my password and hit return and it accepts it, but doesn't get paste writing "logging in..." on the screen. anyone know how to trouble shoot this?
[17:34] <duncan-nz> samba35, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[17:35] <hceylan> hello i Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz laptop
[17:35] <hceylan> I am doing some profiling
[17:35] <hceylan> I would like to temporarily boost the cpu
[17:35] <ainur>  Hello. Recently I have upgraded my ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04. After my installation of VMware 4.0.3 there was a problem at vm tools/modules and I 've got that error: unable to start services for vmware . I searched a bit about it and I found a solution but in order to apply it I should install a script but I don't know if I should trust it. The solution was at askubuntu.com, what should I do?
[17:35] <hceylan> I used to know how to do that
[17:35] <hceylan> but forgot it
[17:35] <skelterjohn_> hceylan: that's typically a BIOS issue rather than an OS issue
[17:35] <samba35> ok
[17:35] <wynx> skelterjohn_ I have same problem.
[17:36] <xizk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/987519/ there you go
[17:36] <skelterjohn_> wynx: did you recently install an extra window manager? i believe that's at the core of my problem
[17:36] <Wade> can anyone solve my problem about missing battery n power icon in ubuntu?
[17:36] <skelterjohn_> xizk: there is a compile error in the C code
[17:36] <skelterjohn_> not a make issue
[17:36] <hceylan> thnx skelter, but just to make su
[17:36] <halakar> hey guys, is there a way to tweak my file manager on 12.04LTS so I can quickly switch between detail view and icon view when browsing directories...?
[17:37] <hceylan> make sure, I don' mean cpu scaling
[17:37] <hceylan> ı would like to stop the downscaling to cool the cpu
[17:37] <skelterjohn_> hceylan: what do you mean by 'boost' then?
[17:37] <Wade> help me please
[17:37] <skelterjohn_> i see...i don't know how to do that, sorry
[17:37] <hceylan> when cpu is not used it clocks it doen right?
[17:37] <hceylan> I would like to disable that
[17:37] <polandeer> Wade: System Settings -> Power
[17:37] <hceylan> *down clocks*
[17:38] <wynx> skelterjohn_ no, I have standard desktop version
[17:38] <skelterjohn_> hceylan: yes, depending on the CPU you've got
[17:38] <hceylan> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
[17:38] <skelterjohn_> wynx: i was able to log in just fine until i started fooling around with xmonad
[17:38] <gayan> #sakai
[17:38] <skelterjohn_> i tried to roll it back, but to no avail
[17:38] <hceylan> is ther an echo X > /sys/xxx to disable this and set the clock speed to max?
[17:38] <skelterjohn_> hceylan: certainly with that one
[17:38] <Wade> polandeer-->> i have try..not working
[17:39] <skelterjohn_> hceylan: i don't know if you can disable it or not
[17:39] <JessicaW> can anyone explain what "debconf-set-selections" is for? everything I've read so far just confuses me more.
[17:39] <hceylan> Too bad!, I making smal changes and try to see the difference. But the dynamic clocking drives me nuts
[17:39] <polandeer> Wade: Not sure then. I'm on a desktop :P
[17:40] <Wade> =)thanks ..
[17:40] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: can you log in from plain X?
[17:40] <wylde> !info cpufreqd | hceylan
[17:41] <hceylan> thanks folks will try that
[17:41] <wylde> !info indicator-cpufreq | hceylan
[17:41] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: how would i do that? do you mean open use ssh -X?
[17:42] <hceylan> I got indicator-cpufreq installed already. But for some reason it does not work
[17:42] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: in case you do, i can open a gnome-terminal through ssh _X
[17:42] <hceylan> it seems to set it to 'performance' /the highest clock rate). but in pratice it does not...
[17:42] <wylde> hceylan: works here, I open the menu and click performance and my Processors stay at 3.2Ghz
[17:42] <ircnode0> can I list what desktops have installed in terminal?
[17:43] <mafiaboy> hi guyss.........if i wanna contribute code to unity ......and wanna download it's source code how ....could i do it
[17:43] <wylde> !dev | mafiaboy
[17:43] <oCean> hceylan: how do you check it changes or not?
[17:43] <hceylan> wylde, in my case it shows the clock is set to highest, but profiling shows incostents times
[17:43] <hceylan> that's why I think it doesn't work
[17:44] <hceylan> if I do the second profiling right after the first one
[17:44] <hceylan> the difference is huge
[17:44] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: can you `sudo stop lightdm` to drop back to the console?
[17:44] <duncan-nz> I have a question about LibreOffice Base, there's no-one in their channel so I'll ask here.
[17:44] <wylde> hceylan: ahh, moment. I'll see if I have some additional lib installed.
[17:44] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: i have been doing "sudo restart lightdm" to try to log in again, and that brings me back to the normal login screen
[17:44] <hceylan> wylde, my observation may make sense right?
[17:44] <skelterjohn_> should i still run 'stop'?
[17:44] <duncan-nz> How can I find out why Base is rejecting my entry data with a '/' in the entry? Shouldn't I be able to change the data type and make it work?
[17:45] <oCean> hceylan: when changing modes, I think you should see the value for cpu MHz (in /proc/cpuinfo) change too
[17:45] <ceti331_> hi , do you advise on Ubuntu on Android here ?
[17:45] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: I think that perhaps if you drop back to the console you can login from there
[17:45] <hceylan> oCean, Let me check...
[17:45] <ceti331_> I am curious if ubuntu for android will run on the HTC one - quadcore device
[17:45] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: what would that buy me?
[17:45] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: once you're logged in you can check the logs
[17:46] <skelterjohn_> i'm logged in remotely
[17:46] <skelterjohn_> i can check the logs from here
[17:46] <wolfcore> then do it
[17:46] <skelterjohn_> i'll pastebin ~/.xsession-errors in a sec
[17:46] <skelterjohn_> (i didn't know where they were until 30 seconds ago)
[17:47] <hceylan> oCean, you are right, when I change from 'conservative' to 'performance' I see that the cpuinfo reports 2200 instead of 800
[17:47] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: /var/log
[17:47] <hceylan> But I think something is definitely wrong here
[17:47] <hceylan> it may be the kernel is not properly using this information
[17:47] <wolfcore> skelterjohn_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:48] <rabbi1> rhythmbox doesn't open on selecting from the notification panel in 12.04 ,...... :(
[17:48] <wynx> In syslog the last process is: Kernel logging (proc) stopped
[17:48] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/987540/
[17:48] <hceylan> Cause I am profiling a single threaded application, if I start 2  profiling then the second one gives me 8000 msecs, but if I run only one profiling instance then the result is 11000 msecs
[17:48] <skelterjohn_> wolfcore: also, ~/.xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/987541/
[17:49] <JessicaW> anyone familiar with purging a value from debconf db that doesn't seem to want to go away?
[17:49] <hceylan> That's why I think the clock setting doesn't work
[17:49] <BenB> how do I configure thinice gtk theme in 12.04 ?
[17:50] <hceylan> I'll check the bios
[17:50] <spm_Draget> I installed ubuntu 12.04 x64 via the alternate CD. I configured the system and as for additional software, I only choose openssh server. I thought since it is the desktop alternate cd, the graphical desktop is installed anyways. But after finishing and rebooting, I am greeted by a console login. What package do I need to install for the defualt (unity?) desktop?
[17:52] <rabbi1> is it a bug ?
[17:52] <wylde> spm_Draget:  ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <wynx> rabbi1: yes, i had too
[17:52] <spm_Draget> wylde: Thanks. Did I just forget to select it in the alternate installer or is it supposed to be installed automatically and something went wrong?
[17:53] <Osakasa> Hi, is there a way to update HUD or check if i'm using the latest version? I'm playing music with Audacious and i have no control with HUD. i write e.g. Stop, HUD is searching commands but finds none
[17:53] <rabbi1> wynx: rhythmbox ?
[17:54] <wylde> spm_Draget: I'm not 100% sure. I "believe" if you used the Desktop Alternate cd it should have installed the desktop. (There's and alternate for desktop and server)
[17:54] <rabbi1> wynx: and song change displays a big dialog box :D
[17:54] <kinenkaya> lol
[17:54] <spm_Draget> wylde: I picked the dekstop alternate I am pretty sure o.o
[17:54] <wylde> spm_Draget: nvm, I'm wrong on that
[17:54] <wynx> rabbi1: yes, the button play/pause is always loading
[17:55] <spm_Draget> 'ubuntu-12.04-alternate-amd64.iso' Oh well. I will just install ubuntu-desktop - tha tshould give me the same system anyways
[17:55] <wylde> spm_Draget: yeah sorry. I miust need more coffee. I suppose it's an option that may have gotten missed
[17:55] <rabbi1> wynx: raised a bug ?
[17:56] <wynx> rabbi1: no
[17:57] <ZenMaster> Hi guys.
[17:57] <ZenMaster> Awesome weekend in long beach wale watching. :) Now I am back here in front of five moniters. :D
[17:57] <rabbi1> wynx: have u tried using IMStatus plugin in rhythmbox, guess even that has a bug too .....
[17:58] <phunyguy> hello everyone, Ubuntu 12.04, iPhone 4s and banshee/rhythmbox.  Is it supported yet to sync the devices with my music library? In banshee it goes through the motions, but there is no music on the device when I disconnect.  Rhythmbox didnt seem to work at all.
[17:59] <SpudULike> Hello room.  My laptop has built in bluetooth which isn't very good.  I want to use a USB Bluetooth dongle.  How do I turn off the built-in bluetooth?  There is a hardware switch, but this will also kill the wifi, so I need some other options.  Thanks in advance.
[17:59] <rabbi1> when ever i receive a  message, pidgin pops a notification even after i have viewed the message, the notification just stays there, guess it happens only while rhythmbox is on ...... bug in IMStatus plugin too
[18:00] <wylde> !brainstorm | osmosis
[18:01] <wynx> rabbil: i didn't try. I use empathy and notifications work properly
[18:02] <wynx> skelterjohn_ , wolfcore: did you guys find something?
[18:03] <wylde> !iphone | phunyguy
[18:05] <wolfcore> wynx: no.
[18:06] <treble54> during an update through Update Manager, my wifi disconnected unfortunately; is it safe to kill the update manager?
[18:06] <treble54> "sudo apt-get update" is not able to do anything due to locks from what I'm guessing is the Update manager
[18:06] <_Jeremy_> SpudULike: try opening unity and typing "bluetooth".
[18:07] <jay__> hello, i need some apache config help on ubuntu server
[18:08] <wylde> jay__:  #ubuntu-server may be more appropriate/helpful.
[18:08] <jay__> thanks
[18:10] <killer> hi guys....if i need to get source code of a particular program using console.....how should i get it ?
[18:10] <ceti331_> sudo apt-get build-deps i think ?
[18:10] <ceti331_> sudo apt-get install --build-deps ?
[18:10] <wylde> killer: 'sudo apt-get source <packagename>'
[18:10] <wynx> anybody know what means http://paste.ubuntu.com/987596/
[18:10] <trism> killer: what wylde said without the sudo
[18:11] <ceti331_> where do i get 'build-deps' from - thats what i've been using
[18:11] <wylde> whoops, right, don't need sudo to get source.
[18:11] <SpudULike> _Jeremy_, that brings up the Bluetooth settings panel?  I can turn 'bluetooth' on and off, but how do I control a specific bluetooth 'dongle'?
[18:11] <ceti331_> i've never heard of 'apt-get' source'
[18:11] <trism> ceti331_: build-dep does get the build dependencies, but not the source
[18:11] <trism> ceti331_: build-dep is useful when actually rebuilding the source though
[18:12] <jay__> hi need help with apache server
[18:12] <wylde> ceti331_:  'man apt-get' ;) Apt can do lots of handy things
[18:12] <ceti331_> apt-get is awesome i miss it on windows & mac
[18:12] <killer> for unity's source code "apt-get source unity"?
[18:12] <trism> killer: yes
[18:13] <trism> killer: depending on what you want to do, you may also want to install bzr and get the upstream source at lp:unity
[18:13] <ceti331_> is "apt-get build-dep" a superset, subset or seperate step to "apt-get source"
[18:14] <Zowszx> this apt have super cool powers
[18:14] <eliotn> hello
[18:14] <_Jeremy_> SpudULike: You'll probably need to blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.
[18:14] <eliotn> I need help with replacing one of my ubuntu partitions with window
[18:14] <eliotn> *windows
[18:14] <trism> ceti331_: apt-get build-dep installs the -dev packages necessary to build the package (from the debian/control Build-Depends field)
[18:14] <phunyguy> wylde: I amnot having issues with the procedures of adding music.  I am having an issue with Ubuntu not working properly.
[18:15] <killer> i got 2 tar files one is "original.tar.gz" and other "ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz"
[18:15] <eliotn> do you have to reinstall ubuntu in order to replace one ubuntu partition with windows?
[18:15] <ceti331_> headers for libraries.. ? debug libs for debug builds perhaps
[18:16] <trism> ceti331_: indeed
[18:17] <SpudULike> _Jeremy_, that sounds like the sort of thing. man modprobe away
[18:18] <reCAPTCHA> Hi. I am trying to open a program remotely on another computer using ssh. However, I get this error:  Unable to open display    Aborted.
[18:18] <aaas> im trying to install acroread and it wants to install HUNDREDS of i386 packages, isn't there a 64bit version?
[18:19] <Zowszx> can someone tell me a good program to create apilicativos in c #, c + +?
[18:19] <dimago> hi
[18:19] <dimago> whta is the channel for ubuntu brazil?
[18:19] <wolfcore> Zowszx: a good program? Just write it
[18:19] <dimago> what*
[18:20] <wylde> !br | dimago
[18:20] <dimago> thank you wyggler2
[18:21] <dimago> thank you wylde
[18:21] <wylde> phunyguy: if you're sure the issue is the ubuntu package you're using I'd suggest filing a bug. 'ubuntu-bug <packagename>'
[18:21] <_Jeremy_> exit
[18:22] <phunyguy> wylde, what I am not sure about is if my phone is supported ornot.
[18:22] <phunyguy> wylde, like I said, it goes through the motions, but doesnt actually add the music properly.
[18:22] <wylde> phunyguy: yeah, well that's the "joy" of proprietary hardware :(
[18:23] <phunyguy> wylde, it was free.  :)
[18:23] <phunyguy> I just wish I could add music to it.
[18:23] <wynx> anybody know what means http://paste.ubuntu.com/987596/
[18:24] <wylde> phunyguy: that's always a good price :) Sadly, I don't use those devices so the links I offered was all I had. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
[18:24] <phunyguy> back to square1.
[18:24] <eloystebam> spanish?
[18:24] <Zowszx> which the command to identify?
[18:25] <eloystebam> speak spanish?
[18:25] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy, what happen! I just did this last week
[18:26] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: whatdo you mean?
[18:26] <eloystebam> #es
[18:26] <Captain_Proton> you trying to add music to ubuntu one or get your music to ubuntuone music on the phone
[18:27] <wylde> !es | eloystebam
[18:27] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: trying to get my collection ontomy iphone from ubuntu
[18:27] <phunyguy> onto my*
[18:27] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy, have you try Banshee iphone is supported
[18:28] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: banshee goes through the motions, but it doesnt really add themusic.
[18:29] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton:  it's almost as if the music gets added to the filesystem, but not added to the database properly on the phone
[18:31] <MaRiNc> hello alls
[18:31] <MaRiNc> have  ppl  here :D
[18:31] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy,  have you seen this
[18:31] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/transfer-music-media-ipod-ios-device-linux/
[18:32] <Pakado> Hey guys! quick question im pretty new to ubuntu and i have an Acer Revo 70 and the HDMI output won't work at all how do i get the drivers for it or are they not available? Searched everywhere :(
[18:33] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: that software package is already installed and a newer version than the one in the ppa.
[18:34] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: i can see the phone in banshee, and can browse the filesystem, but music wont add properly.
[18:35] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy, well in the end you could install wine then Itunes
[18:35] <phunyguy> Captain_Proton: if I was to do that, I would just load up the macbook I got for free as well, but I hate that thing.
[18:35] <Chat8755> Www.niceorhot.com
[18:36] <Chat8755> Www.niceorhot.com
[18:36] <phunyguy> wheee spam
[18:36] <Chat8755> Kick me out
[18:36] <Chat8755> Www.niceorhot.com
[18:36] <Chat8755> No spam
[18:36] <Chat8755> Just à joke
[18:36] <Captain_Proton> phunyguy, oohhh the joy of apple products :D
[18:36] <Chat8755> But in here you're so serious
[18:37] <wylde> !ot | Chat8755
[18:37] <Chat8755> Yeah i was only kidding
[18:37] <Chat8755> Not gonna happen again
[18:38] <Pakado> anyone help with a HDMI issue?
[18:38] <maverick_> hi all, if i delete all the  lib-dev from the system, the programs will work on ubuntu?
[18:38] <phunyguy> !ask | Pakado
[18:38] <Chat8755> No soumd
[18:38] <pgib> I know how to list installed applications via utilities, but is there a single file that lists these?  I'm browsing through an old drive and it would be nice to remember what I had instaleld
[18:40] <Pakado> !ask HDMI Issue with acer revo 70
[18:42] <uuser> need help please! i got "mount.nfs4: connection timed out" at boot and the system won't start, also in recovery mode. (linux mint here, but i think they have many things in common)
[18:42] <phunyguy> Pakado, just ask your question in the channel.  Don't be vague.
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !mint| uuser
[18:43] <fraterm> Proxy configuration in ubuntu with Chrome has recently become rather troublesome for me.
[18:43] <uuser> ubottu: ok, thanks
[18:48] <n1ckn4me09876543> hey guys, anyone here know a program for linux (ubuntu) that works like FreeMake?   freemake is a program that rips of flv from online flash videos
[18:49] <reynir> Hello. I can't start update-manager. It doesn't give any errors, it just doesn't show.
[18:49] <BobMarley_> hello
[18:49] <BobMarley_> i want to know if there is a feature that could give me the possibility to search for a word in all opened files with kate
[18:50] <Logan_> n1ckn4me09876543: http://alternativeto.net/software/freemake-video-downloader/?platform=linux&license=free
[18:50] <pgib> is there a way to list the equivalent of `dpkg --get-selections` without access to dpkg  (mounted an old ubuntu install)
[18:50] <ptrkmj> do i really need recommended packages when installing wine? i mean, the difference is huge, without recommends there is 15 packages to install, with recommends the number rises to 126.
[18:51] <maverick_> ptrkmj,  install winetricks, to get the framework and librarys
[18:51] <ceti331_> does ubuntu run well on  the following phones : galaxy s2, galaxy-nexus, htc one x
[18:52] <n1ckn4me09876543> thnx Logan_
[18:52] <Logan_> n1ckn4me09876543: No problem.
[18:52] <reynir> ceti331_: I don't think ubuntu runs well on nearly any phone
[18:52] <delinquentme> grep "devise" -r ./ *.rb       .. only searches within .rb files
[18:52] <delinquentme> what if i *only* want to search files called notes.rb   ?
[18:52] <wylde> BobMarley_: #kubuntu may provide more insight.
[18:52] <ceti331_> with XFCE /
[18:52] <delinquentme> grep "devise" -r ./ notes.rb     ...isnt doing it
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> ceti331_  i think you've heard something about ubuntu and android
[18:53] <maverick_> hi all, if i delete all the  lib-dev from the system, the programs will work on ubuntu?
[18:53] <ceti331_> yes
[18:53] <reynir> delinquentme: sounds like you're looking for "find"
[18:53] <ceti331_> someone was telling me on android they had it running on an HTC HD2
[18:53] <delinquentme> so do a find then pipe to grep?
[18:53] <delinquentme> im looking for a string "devise" only within the notes.rb files within multiple dirs
[18:53] <maverick_> ceti331_,  nice :D !! and the updates of ubuntu will work too?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> ceti331_  start here : http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[18:54] <reynir> delinquentme: RTF man page
[18:54] <delinquentme> reynir, awesome help -1
[18:55] <mcphail> reynir: this isn't #debian
[18:55] <LjL> reynir: "read" would have done just as well.
[18:55] <trism> delinquentme: find /path/to/search/ -name 'notes.rb' -exec grep -nH 'devise' {} \;
[18:55] <reynir> RTF is short-hand for read
[18:55] <LjL> reynir: yes, saves a whole character... just please don't use it
[18:55] <delinquentme> im sure
[18:55] <wylde> ceti331_: ---->  /msg alis list *ubuntu*phone* will help you find more appropriate channels for that.
[18:56] <ceti331_> cool
[18:56] <delinquentme> ceti331_,  #freenode also has people who are paid to do that  .... super helpful
[18:56] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[18:57] <LjL> delinquentme: paid to do what?
[18:57] <designbybeck> has anyone use the Ubuntu Customization Kit? UCK and if so do you know if there is an IRC Channel for it?
[18:57] <delinquentme> Lij help freenoders find channels and with all kinds of misc stuff
[18:58] <reynir> Is anyone using xmonad? I have experienced a few episodes where all keyboard input is ignored except for 1) media keys, 2) ctrl+alt+sysrq-S-U-B
[18:58] <wylde> !alis | designbybeck
[18:58] <LjL> delinquentme: erm, i doubt that's very accurate, most freenode staffers are volunteers
[18:58] <designbybeck> thank you wylde
[18:58] <reynir> Also I don't seem to be able to start update-manager, the GUI
[18:58] <delinquentme> oh are they?
[18:58] <wylde> designbybeck:  eg. /msg alis list *UCK*
[18:58] <wylde> designbybeck: np :)
[18:58] <delinquentme> well then they're just plain awesome
[18:59] <mefrio> does anyone know if it is possible to sync iOS 5 music with Ubuntu?
[18:59] <reynir> delinquentme: Man pages are actually really resourceful. You should really consider try reading some. I have learnt a lot from reading man pages.
[19:00] <wolfcore> reynir: I use dwm but maybe I can help you troubleshoot
[19:01] <mcphail> reynir: the man page for "find" is notoriously unhelpful - almost as unhelpful as the phrase "RTFM"
[19:02] <reynir> wolfcore: Thanks. I don't think it's a TWM-issue. I suspect it's X.org. It's hard to debug since it happens somewhat rarely (~once every second day perhaps)
[19:02] <wolfcore> reynir: have you checked your X log/s?
[19:03] <reynir> wolfcore: Yes. I found gajim had crashed (or rather, it was some libgtk library gajim was using, I think)
[19:04] <reynir> But it also happens when I'm not using gajim
[19:05] <crappycomputerow> hi ppl
[19:05] <reynir> Hello crappycomputerow
[19:06] <crappycomputerow> im on ubuntu 12.04
[19:06] <reynir> Me too
[19:06] <crappycomputerow> hi reynir
[19:06] <LinuX2half> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without GRUB replacing MBR?
[19:06] <crappycomputerow> how you like it?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[19:06] <reynir> It was ok, until xmonad started being buggy
[19:07] <crappycomputerow> its a bit chopy here
[19:07] <crappycomputerow> flash seems to crash everything
[19:07] <crappycomputerow> i beieve its the processor
[19:07] <crappycomputerow> believe
[19:07] <reynir> Is askubuntu supported by canonical?
[19:07] <maheanuu> Good Morning, I would appreciate it if someone might help me removing a application and then re-installing it, it is a skype problem and only occurred after the re installation of 10.04.4
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> crappycomputerow  did you have a support question?
[19:08] <crappycomputerow> go to software cnter
[19:08] <designbybeck> maheanuu:  why are you still using 10.04?
[19:08] <reynir> designbybeck: Perhaps because it's Stable
[19:08] <crappycomputerow> i want to install xp pro
[19:08] <crappycomputerow> then ubuntu
[19:08] <crappycomputerow> but i lost system disc
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> !enter| crappycomputerow
[19:09] <designbybeck> reynir: stable, but might not support newer hardware if that was the case
[19:09] <wylde> LinuX2half: yes, you copuld choose to install grub to a usb thumb/pendrive, so that to boot ubuntu you would have to boot from that device.
[19:09] <wylde> could*
[19:09] <maheanuu> designbybeck, I installed it after having a major hd failure and did the install of Lucid 10.04.4 LTS 64 bit
[19:10] <LinuX2half> wylde: I see. Thanks.
[19:10] <maheanuu> designbybeck, should I be using something faster?  I like the layout of 10.XX
[19:10] <reynir> designbybeck: 10.04 is the latest ubuntu stable that has been out for longer than $(time-since-12.04)
[19:10] <crappycomputerow> can anyone hep me with appropriate distr ubuntu 12.04 seems to crash for me , im prety sure hard ware is to blame
[19:11] <Zowszx> backtrack is a good distribution?
[19:11] <DJones> !backtrack | Zowszx
[19:11] <crappycomputerow> maheanuu wats are comp specs
[19:11] <azertyui> backtrack is for crack distribution
[19:11] <roasted> Question - If you guys hit the super key, then type "files" and hit enter, does Nautilus appear on your screen as the primary window? It comes up as primary on other systems but on my laptop I can't just begin typing "Pictures" to go into pictures, I have to click to enable it as the primary, and then type pictures, etc.
[19:12] <LinuX2half> wylde: Then if I install the operating system onto a usb drive then it'll behave like it's installed on your PC?
[19:12] <maheanuu> I didn't have any probs (to my knowledge) but after doing the re installation and then putting skype back on was sorta iffey and I thought that by removing it and re installing it perhaps.......   Just perhaps
[19:13] <reynir> files
[19:13] <crappycomputerow> you can get skype from the website as well dude
[19:14] <wylde> LinuX2half: To explain, you basically do the "dual boot" installation, so the OS is installed entirely on your hard disk. The only thing you install to the usb key/pendrive is the bootloader "Grub". That way, without the usb device plugged in the original OS will boot without showing grub.
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> maheanuu  i'm sure a lot of problems are solved in 12.04, use Ubuntu Classic if you profer the "old" look (like I do)
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> prefer*
[19:14] <wylde> LinuX2half: it just means to start ubuntu you will have to plug in and boot from the usb device
[19:15] <maheanuu> I am running a Toshiba Laptop A355D-S6930 64 Bit  and NO Windoze
[19:16] <maheanuu> MonkeyDust, perhaps tonight I will do a download of it, and then try it live
[19:16] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all, when I try to launch an application over SSH I get "Unable to open a display Aborted"
[19:16] <maheanuu> I am not at the end of the world.............   I am over it.......   i am located on the island of Raiatea in the middle of the south pacific
[19:16] <reCAPTCHA> What am I doing wrong?
[19:17] <wylde> apologies if I'm not being clear. :) I'm in a lot of pain today and it's rather distracting heh.
[19:17] <hpsd> can anyone tell me what network transfer speed of big file should i aspect from 12.04LTS server running samba on a 2.4ghz 2gb pc with sata1 16mb cache  hdd?
[19:17] <LinuX2half> wylde: oh okay. So the system will be installed on my PC but won't boot unless my usb or the bootloader is plugged in. Then the amount space of the usb drive is irrelevant?
[19:17] <reynir> reCAPTCHA: Have you tried to do X-forwarding? You can use either -X or -Y. See the man page or whatever for more information
[19:18] <trism> roasted: bug 781931 looks like it should be fixed in 5.14.0
[19:18] <wylde> LinuX2half: yep, all the usb device is going to hold is the bootloader :)
[19:18] <designbybeck> How do you change/add groups to a user in 12.04?
[19:18] <maheanuu> We have linux users in the Territory, but no one on this island other than myself
[19:18] <designbybeck> via GUI
[19:18] <reCAPTCHA> reynir: all I have done is changed to the directory that the application is in and invoked ./application
[19:18] <crappycomputerow> sorry wylde
[19:18] <reynir> reCAPTCHA: When you logged in through SSH did you pass either -X or -Y?
[19:19] <crappycomputerow> pray for you bud
[19:19] <reCAPTCHA> reynir: I have done it before... it was something like DISPLAY=":0" or something...
[19:19] <wylde> crappycomputerow: thanks.
[19:19] <roasted> trism: looks like I'm on 5.12. Does apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade not update me to Unity 5.14?
[19:19] <reynir> reCAPTCHA: But have you tried it?
[19:19] <reCAPTCHA> reynir: No... and I want to open the window in the computer that is hosting.
[19:19] <BlueEagle> hpsd: Which SMB-client is on the other end and how tight is the network bottleneck?
[19:19] <reCAPTCHA> reynir: I have tried DISPLAY=":0", and it does not work.
[19:20] <BlueEagle> hpsd: My guess is that if windows is on the other end that will be the bottleneck. Either that or running over a wireless link.
[19:21] <reynir> reCAPTCHA: I am not sure X allows you to do that with default configuration in ubuntu. Sorry, I cannot help you further
[19:21] <hpsd> BlueEagle, for now its a desktop precise. I want to set a homeserver, my network is gigabit via a 1043nd router on dd-wrt (maybe in the future migrate the dhcp to the server and use it only as a wi-fi ap)
[19:22] <hpsd> BlueEagle, i get around 7-10 MB/s which seems slow to me
[19:22] <fAz4> Why Blue tooth is always ON in 12.04 ?!
[19:22] <BlueEagle> reCAPTCHA: You will not be able to set a program to run remotely over a ssh-link out of the box. You'll be better off trying some RDP magic or somesuch.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> fAz4  because of userfriendlyness, i guess
[19:22] <trism> roasted: 5.14.0 isn't released yet, but actually on closer reading of the comments it might not, since the proposed fix is against gtk+ (and from a while ago)
[19:23] <fAz4> MonkeyDust: When i make it OFF, it's still ON at the next boot
[19:23] <roasted> trism: then I wonder how my other laptop doesn't have this issue whatsoever...
[19:23] <Wawaiftyid> How to increase Ubuntu security?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !firewall| Wawaiftyid
[19:24] <trism> roasted: don't know, I can reproduce it here on this netbook though
[19:25] <roasted> trism: oh, so you're seeing the exact same thing?
[19:25] <wylde> !security | Wawaiftyid
[19:26] <roasted> trism: I'm getting in the habit of hitting alt tab whenever I type in an application I want to open. Shouldn't need to do that, but it's nice to see it's not JUST me. :P
[19:26] <Wawaiftyid> There is any crypto?
[19:26] <BlueEagle> hpsd: Do you have smbclient installed? If so you can take a look at http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/forum/t-88088
[19:26] <Osakasa> Hello, none of my programs don't respond to HUD. Is a there way to check are all setups ok or i'm i running the latest version?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> !encrypt| Wawaiftyid
[19:26] <wylde> !encrypt | Wawaiftyid
[19:26] <BlueEagle> hpsd: If you are running the SMB client over the local network only adjusting the block size will greatly increase samba performance.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Wawaiftyid  start from the beginning, what is it you want?
[19:27] <joao> good afternoon. I have another question: I have no sound from flash videos on youtube. i'm running ubuntu 12.04 but the problem persisted from 11.10. how can i solve this?
[19:27] <Wawaiftyid> Yeah, but I read that it isn't secure at all. That is why I am searching new security methods.
[19:27] <Wawaiftyid> MonkeyDust, high security.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Wawaiftyid  100% exists nowhere in any multiverse
[19:28] <Wawaiftyid> MonkeyDust, I know, but I want a 98% at least XD
[19:28] <BlueEagle> hpsd: Ofcourse if you're not using any Windows clients NFS offers better performance than SMB ever will iirc.
[19:28] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: Please be specific.  Security in what area?  While browsing?  Combined with anonymity?  From outside intrusions?  Securely protecting your files?  What exactly are you looking for?
[19:29] <hpsd> BlueEagle, there will be some windows clients. I'm wondering whether isn't some network configuration problem, because i notices that lynx takes forever to open a website on the server, however on the desktop everything is fine
[19:29] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, all of that. Of course I don't want you to explain me, I want some links. Unfortunately Google haven't give me the answers.
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Wawaiftyid  define "high security"
[19:29] <c4ff31n> Hi everybody!
[19:30] <joao> how can i solve or even report that flash issue? it's the only thing bugging me on ubuntu
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Wawaiftyid  ubottu showed you the links
[19:30] <BlueEagle> hpsd: Does the page take as long if you shut down lynx and then immediately load it up again (ie is the delay due to dns lookup?)
[19:30] <Wawaiftyid> MonkeyDust, a high powered attacker can't access my data in almost a year.
[19:30] <Sheldon420> Wawaiftyid: Any Linux OS with Firewall enabled with latest security patches.  Tor browser with no plugins enabled for anonymity.  Truecrypt for protecting your files.
[19:31] <artie> Hi all, I can't access a partition on my system because all the options on the permissions tab are greyed out, and it says the owner is 'root'. How do I make it so any user on my system can access that partition?
[19:31] <Wawaiftyid> MokeyDust, yeah, but I want a bit more, I'l read it later. I dn't think that it is a problem XD
[19:31] <wolfcore> artie: chmod
[19:31] <Janos> he there, trying to mount a lvm using abuntu 10.04 live cd, lvm info is correctly shown with pvs/vgs/lvs, but no /dev/* exists for them, what extra step do i need to create the appropriate devices to be able to mount them ?
[19:31] <resno> artie: chmod 777
[19:31] <BlueEagle> artie: Which filesystem is on the partition?
[19:31] <resno> artie: chmod 777 <locatino>
[19:31] <c4ff31n> i"m interested in joining the Ubuntu Community. Can anyone explain to me how that works?
[19:31] <christoph_> hi all
[19:31] <artie> it's ext4
[19:31] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, mmm. Tor browser with no puglins? Are you talking about a firefox with only tor?
[19:31] <BlueEagle> !mount
[19:32] <BlueEagle> artie: Check that ^
[19:32] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: Tor Browser Bundle.  Download it off their website.
[19:32] <wylde> !contribute | c4ff31n
[19:32] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, thanks. i think that it is all for now.
[19:33] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: Don't install any addons that aren't open-source or any toolbars (AOL toolbar etc)
[19:33] <artie> resno, ty. But, what is 'location?? Does that mean the partition name or 'sda3'?
[19:33] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, thanks for the tip ;-)
[19:33] <Areckx> Is there a special way to prepare a Windows XP ISO for a usb stick?
[19:33] <c4ff31n> Thanks ubottu! I'll see the links!
[19:34] <Areckx> c4ff31n::  ubottu is a bot
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> Areckx  you're in the ubuntu support channel
[19:34] <Areckx> MonkeyDust::  I meant, while in Ubuntu
[19:34] <joao> what is the support channel?
[19:34] <BlueEagle> joao: This is the support channel.
[19:34] <Wawaiftyid> Btw I have onedifferent problem.
[19:35] <joao> oh, my bad. i Saw monkeydust said we didn't. read it wrong.
[19:35] <reCAPTCHA> reynir: BlueEagle: So, it turns out that what you have to do is EXPORT DISPLAY=:0.0 and then open the application.
[19:35] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: you're welcome.  also, do read the faq and follow the safe browsing habits : https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en
[19:35] <joao> can i get any flash-related assistance here?
[19:35] <c4ff31n> Sorry Areckc I'm new here I know no one.
[19:35] <BlueEagle> reCAPTCHA: Will not that shut down the application when the SSH-session ends?
[19:35] <Wawaiftyid> I have one actualization that I can't install. It says that it needs non trustable packets. It is not a dialogue, it is an error. I have found some solutions on the net, but nono of them works
[19:35] <resno> artie: where ever you want to open access up to
[19:35] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, thanks for the link
[19:35] <Oer> joao what is your flash issue?
[19:35] <rabbi1> how to exit x server ?
[19:36] <hpsd> BlueEagle, nope it's still painfully slow
[19:36] <reCAPTCHA> BlueEagle: Yeah... but that's fine.
[19:36] <hpsd> BlueEagle, but ping to sites is looking normal
[19:36] <BlueEagle> reCAPTCHA: Oh. I thought you needed to keep it running. :)
[19:36] <hpsd> so maybe it's a problem with lynx
[19:36] <Janos> so anyone ? any idea which program/kernel module is responsible for creating the /dev/VG-LV devices ?
[19:36] <krababbel> Areckx: tried extracting the iso and booting usb?
[19:37] <[erk]hacker> www.hacksmile.tk
[19:37] <wylde> rabbi1: ctrl+alt+f1 then login and 'sudo service lightdm stop'  (assuming you're on a default 11.10+ ubuntu)
[19:37] <rabbi1> wylde: 12.04
[19:37] <wylde> rabbi1: yep that's why I added the '+'
[19:38] <Areckx> krababbel::  I tried using unetbootin, but it just said default and every time I pressed enter it just refreshed the screen.
[19:38] <azertyui> hi
[19:38] <krababbel> Areckx: no, just unpack the iso, and copy the files to the stick, then boot
[19:39] <azertyui> i would like to compile custom .ipk package for my emembed
[19:39] <azertyui> from ubuntu pc
[19:39] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, this navigator is amazing! I will forget about torbutton and install vidalia and all that things
[19:39] <azertyui> how to do ?
[19:40] <zapi> yo bien y tu
[19:40] <BlueEagle> azertyui: What is an .ipk-package for?
[19:40] <Tolot> Hi everyone
[19:40] <rolandb> hi. I'm trying to put some lines in /etc/rc.multi but it doesn't exist? any tips?
[19:40] <azertyui> Yes
[19:40] <BlueEagle> !fr | zapi
[19:40] <LjL> BlueEagle: that was spanish
[19:41] <BlueEagle> rolandb: If it does not exist then create it. :)
[19:41] <rolandb> !es | zapi
[19:41] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: I wouldn't recommend using Tor without Vidalia.  It provides valuable notifications if you're using an application that leaks.
[19:41] <BlueEagle> rolandb: alternately try rc.local
[19:41] <Wawaiftyid> Sheldon420, but does this new navigator have a built-in vidalia?
[19:41] <BlueEagle> LjL: Well I was about to do !gr because it sounded greek to me. :)
[19:41] <rolandb> BlueEagle, well rc.local definately exists.... im trying to put machcnager in there basically
[19:41] <rolandb> macchanger
[19:42] <BlueEagle> rolandb: If you want something to run at every boot then rc.local is the spot iirc.
[19:42] <Sheldon420> wawaiftyid: After installing the Tor repo, install Vidalia.  I think Tor is one of its deps.  When starting Vidalia, let it control Tor.
[19:42] <azertyui> hello
[19:43] <rolandb> BlueEagle, ok lemme try that real quick
[19:43] <rolandb> BlueEagle, do I have to put a sudo in there or is it running as root alreadcy?
[19:43] <c4ff31n> guys would you know a good book explaining the essentials of linux functionment!?
[19:43] <BlueEagle> rolandb: That should be running as super user.
[19:43] <rolandb> c4ff31n, "google.com"
[19:44] <Sheldon420> Brb
[19:44] <wylde> !manual | c4ff31n
[19:44] <c4ff31n> I searched for a long time found nothing :s
[19:44] <Osakasa> is there a manual for HUD, please?
[19:45] <wylde> !hud | Osakasa
[19:45] <c4ff31n> whre in the man?
[19:46] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: The entire manual.
[19:46] <c4ff31n> all i see in it is basic of ubuuntu use
[19:46] <Osakasa> thanks
[19:46] <nickalot> for ubuntu 11.10  any right click menu to rename all of the files in the folder   like  picture_1  picture _2
[19:46] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: Wasn't that what you were asking for?
[19:47] <c4ff31n> no, i'm talking about internal functionement of the os...
[19:48] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: Then you may want to go through the Gentoo linux installation manual.
[19:48] <xid> how can i determine why my server rebooted?
[19:48] <xid> which log file should i check
[19:48] <wylde> xid browse the logs?
[19:48] <krababbel> nickalot: I guess you need pyrenamer?
[19:48] <BlueEagle> xid: /var/log/kern.log may be a good place to start.
[19:49] <nickalot> krababbel:   is there any righ click menu or  python code
[19:49] <c4ff31n> actually i'm looking for something like an analyse of the source code or something like that to understanf how the all is working
[19:49] <dddbmt> Hello guys. On a danish PC keyboard the "half" sign (½) is placed in the top left corner (on a mac the dollar sign ($) is placed in that spot). I would like to map ½=>$ on my keyboard - can anyone help me with that?
[19:49] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/12/how_to_use_linux_01_introducti.php may help you
[19:49] <wylde> !ot | c4ff31n --that's beyond the scope of this channel.
[19:50] <wolfcore> c4ff31n: analysis of code? strace
[19:51] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: Then you want he linux from scratch project.
[19:51] <c4ff31n> scearch project?
[19:51] <Areckx> krababbel::  unpack?
[19:51] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: If you need it any lower level than that you'll need the GCC manual and all the library references.
[19:51] <n1ckn4me09876543> in windows, I would find Chrome files in Appdata,  where would I find something similar in ubuntu?
[19:51] <c4ff31n> scratch*?
[19:51] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: Google "linux from scratch"
[19:52] <xid> BlueEagle: kern.log just looks like a bootup log
[19:52] <xid> it looks okay
[19:53] <n1ckn4me09876543> in windows, I would find Chrome files in Appdata,  where would I find something similar in ubuntu? I mean files like bookmarks, save passwords, extensions etc
[19:53] <wylde> xid: /var/log/syslog may have info
[19:53] <BlueEagle> xid: It takes all the kernel log messages and yes, it will contain quite a bit about the boot sequence. However you want what is immediately prior to the boot sequence beginning.
[19:53] <krababbel> n1ckn4me09876543: look in ~/.config/
[19:53] <c4ff31n> Linux From Scratch is the main book, the base from which all other projects are derived.
[19:54] <wylde> n1ckn4me09876543:  you could try 'locate chrome' although you may want to pipe that through less if there's a lot of output
[19:54] <c4ff31n> that looks pretty amazing thank you
[19:54] <n1ckn4me09876543> wylde, krababbel  thnx
[19:54] <ServerCrash> hwinfo --monitor gives details of only one monitor, where as i have 3 monitors connected via nvidia (vga, dvi-d, hdmi), any idea how can i get details of all the monitors connected
[19:56] <taruti> It seems that accountsservice is not seeing an user, how do I get it to acknowledge it?
[19:57] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: You're welcome.
[19:57] <BlueEagle> c4ff31n: For support try #linuxfromscratch or #lfs or somesuch.
[19:57] <wylde> !alis
[19:57] <wylde> :)
[20:00] <taruti> removing accountsservice package fixes it :)
[20:04] <meco> When I log in to xfce tumblerd immediately crashes. What is tumblerd?
[20:05] <dagum> howdy all
[20:05] <BlueEagle> !info tumblerd
[20:06] <trism> meco: thumbnailing service it appears
[20:06] <BlueEagle> !info tumbler | meco
[20:06] <dagum> how do I get farsight installed?
[20:06] <trism> dagum: is this 12.04?
[20:06] <MateoDeMateo> howdy all, i have some questions about dual booting and virtual machines, and i was hoping i could get some advice, experience from you all
[20:06] <BlueEagle> meco: I would guess it creates thumbnails from image files and such.
[20:07] <BlueEagle> !ask | MateoDeMateo
[20:07] <meco> BlueEagle: OK. I'll try and uninstall it then...
[20:07] <MateoDeMateo> do any of you dual boot more than 2 linux os?
[20:07] <Firebolt> !patience
[20:07] <BlueEagle> meco: Should be OK unless you really miss the functionality. Did you install xubuntu-desktop ontop of ubuntu or was it a virgin install=
[20:07] <BlueEagle> ?
[20:08] <Firebolt> MateoDeMateo, if you boot more than two, it's not really a dual-boot anymore
[20:08] <BlueEagle> MateoDeMateo: I did at one point.
[20:08] <xangua> !find farsight | dagum
[20:08] <meco> BlueEagle: The former
[20:08] <BlueEagle> MateoDeMateo: ...however that was with lilo and not grub.
[20:08] <MateoDeMateo> i'm trying to decide between "dual booting" ubuntu, backtrack, and windows, with a 4th parition that would be for shared data files
[20:08] <BlueEagle> meco: then, if you have the time, I guess a !bugreport would be appreciated by the devs.
[20:08]  * no12u_ needs help getting samba shares to auth with lwopen
[20:09] <azertyui> hello
[20:09] <cantor> I just switched a machine from 10.04 to 12.04.  Unity is impossible . I do not see away around changing distros...
[20:09] <no12u_> help
[20:09] <MateoDeMateo> that or maybe running some of these os in a virtualbox
[20:09] <azertyui> this is the error i got when i try http://paste.ubuntu.com/987807/
[20:09] <BlueEagle> cantor: So logging into "Gnome classic" instead of Unity is not a solution?
[20:09] <MateoDeMateo> problem is that backtrack is a bit glitch for me in a virtualbox
[20:09] <azertyui> i don't know what to do ?
[20:09] <guntbert> MateoDeMateo: that is not really an ubuntu support question, is it?
[20:10] <MateoDeMateo> where should i ask that question then?
[20:10] <meco> BlueEagle: Right.. well, I've been struggling with some serious issues on the system the last several days which might even be a hardware thing.
[20:10] <meco> Is there a hardware testing utility on the system?
[20:10] <guntbert> MateoDeMateo: you could try to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <no12u_> anyone know likewise open well?
[20:10] <MateoDeMateo> okay, thanks
[20:10] <cantor> BlueEagle,  working on gnome-shell atm.  REALLY trying to make it work.
[20:10] <dagum> already have installed  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad looking for video fix for amsn
[20:11] <cantor> but the difference are causing trouble with my users.
[20:11] <meco> BlueEagle: I've already filed two bug reports related to vlc, which might be caused by the same issue.
[20:12] <cantor> the who no icons on the desktop is drama.  Took me 30 min to get a trash can on one users desktop
[20:12] <cantor> who=whole
[20:12] <lkrasner_> quick question: would I be better off with 32 bit or 64 bit for android development?
[20:12] <guntbert> !ot | lkrasner_
[20:12] <xangua> cantor: trash icon is already on the unity launcher
[20:13] <meco> Is there a system testing app pre-installed?
[20:13] <wylde> meco: 'checkbox' I believe. Not sure if it's installed by default though.
[20:13] <cantor> Xander, yes, but my users have had icons on there desktop since dapper drake, its a change they are not ready for and normal gnome is not an option.
[20:13] <BlueEagle> meco: For testing filesystem, memory, hdd performance, processor burn-in?
[20:14] <meco> wylde: ok!
[20:14] <meco> BlueEagle: Right
[20:14] <Jezzz> live install on flash drive, simple as using the 'Startup Disk Creator' and clicking 'Try Ubuntu' each boot?
[20:14] <wylde> !find checkbox | meco
[20:14] <meco> BlueEagle: I had the gpu crash a few days ago. At least so the error message told me.
[20:15] <no12u_> anyone know likewise open well? need help getting samba to use lwopen auth
[20:17] <kurt1> Need help solving some 12.04 unmet dependencies based on python-uno and libreoffice
[20:18] <pvl1> kurt1, did u get the dev packages?
[20:18] <kurt1> Was doing an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04
[20:18] <meco> wylde: Synaptic tells me I have it installed, however, I'm unable to find it... What's with that? Do you know?
[20:18] <kurt1> I cannot install any package until these dependencies are corrected
[20:18] <kurt1> or uninstall
[20:19] <wylde> meco: try entering 'checkbox-gtk' in terminal
[20:19] <pvl1> kurt1, boot into recovery, and run a dpkg -reconfigure -a
[20:19] <wylde> meco: if you're looking for it in Unity panel it's called System Testing
[20:19] <kurt1> pvl1: k will try
[20:20] <meco> wylde: I started checkbox-gtk from terminal
[20:20] <wylde> meco: alrighty.
[20:22] <Ben64> 10.04, gnome-settings daemon crashes at seemingly random times - [1183070.904060] gnome-settings-[11186]: segfault at 503bc0 ip 00007f162300cf70 sp 00007fffe5ea1500 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f1622fdc000+17a000]
[20:24] <pvl1> Ben64, 64bit os? and what version is gnome-settings
[20:24] <BlueEagle> !segfault | Ben64
[20:24] <BlueEagle> are there any factoids left ffs?! :)
[20:25] <Ben64> pvl1: yes 64. and...ii  gnome-settings-daemon                      2.30.1-0ubuntu1.1
[20:25] <DexterF_> hi
[20:25] <guntbert> !askthebot | BlueEagle
[20:25] <DexterF_> FF wont load the flash plugin in 12.04. stays black. mypsace even confirms: flash 11 r202 installed but fails to use it
[20:25] <DexterF_> 32bit. video = gf fx5200, nouzveau driver. help?
[20:26] <blawiz> what does ubuntu use to extract files (throught nautilus)?
[20:26] <xid> BlueEagle: my kern.log is all within one second of time... there's nothing prior to the boot sequence
[20:26] <xid> not sure what else I can look for...
[20:26] <Ben64> DexterF_: myspace confirms? try going to https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[20:26] <P-Nuts> blawiz, I think it's called File Roller
[20:26] <xid> sound like a power outage?
[20:26] <ServerCrash> hwinfo only gives details about 1 monitor connected either to vga or dvi-d and it totally omits details about HMDI, any idea why?
[20:26] <blawiz> P-Nuts, thanks nuts!
[20:26] <xangua> !info file-roller | blawiz
[20:27] <blawiz> file-roller should handle .arc files, right?
[20:27] <amish_ninja> Any of you fine gents/ladies know how to get a usb wireless adapter working on 12.04? Belkin n600 is what I'm looking at.
[20:27] <Upsadont> hello. i have problem. i create LiveUSB 12.04. downloaded *.iso from there http://mirror.yandex.ru/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso . after loading live usb (screen ubuntu and same dots), he asked me login;password !!! what is it? i never saw this . it`s specific humor? i can install ubuntu, `cause i down`t know these login;pass for RUSsian was created topic
[20:27] <ahoneybun> hello?
[20:28] <kurt1> pvl1: I am in recov but it does not like the dpkg -reconfigure -a option
[20:28] <Upsadont> http://vk.com/topic-33241_26474915
[20:28] <blawiz> ahoneybun, hello!
[20:28] <ahoneybun> .msg NickServ ahoneybun CaramelFrappe
[20:28] <pvl1> bc the stuff isnt met, do u have aptitude installed?
[20:28] <dreamy_> hi does anyone likes to have a machintosh and run linux on it?
[20:28] <Upsadont> i can`t install
[20:28] <xangua> Upsadont: you can try user: ubuntu password: leave it in blank
[20:28] <Upsadont> ubuntu
[20:28] <pvl1> kurt1, do u have aptitude installed
[20:28] <xangua> !mac | dreamy_
[20:29] <blawiz> file-roller should handle .arc files, right?
[20:29] <ahoneybun> blawiz, Can you point me to the dev channel for the calendar application Maya?
[20:29] <Upsadont> xangua: it`s not working
[20:29] <dreamy_> ty Xangua
[20:29] <kurt1> would apt-get work
[20:29] <DexterF_> Ben64: what would I find there...?
[20:29] <dreamy_> xangua: is it os virtualization?
[20:29] <Oer> Upsadont, it asks for your current pass, to write the mbr of the usb stick/disk
[20:29] <blawiz> ahoneybun, no
[20:30] <pvl1> kurt1, maybe but ive had better success with aptitude
[20:30] <Ben64> DexterF_: if flash really is installed, what version is installed, and which version is current
[20:30] <ahoneybun> blawiz, help me with this darn registering
[20:30] <kurt1> pvl1: what command would you usse with aptitude
[20:30] <sirriffsalot> Hello! How do I check what specific  nvidia card I have? Google confuses me...
[20:30] <Upsadont> Oer: and my login:pass not working
[20:30] <xid> there is nothing interesting in my syslog at the time my machine rebooted
[20:30] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:30] <xid> seems like it just suddenly rebooted
[20:30] <DexterF_> Ben64: 11.2.202.235
[20:30] <xid> host won't confirm any power outage
[20:30] <pvl1> kurt1, its a curses terminal program, its windowed, sorta
[20:30] <xid> a bit unnerving
[20:30] <FloodBot1> xid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <dreamy_> xangua: thats ok ill read the docs
[20:31] <pvl1> kurt1, so u just run aptitude
[20:31] <BlueEagle> !aptitude |pvl1 & kurt1
[20:31] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: cheers! Hang on
[20:32] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: it seems I have two... :-S
[20:32] <DexterF_> Ben64: afaik this is current. its the one shipped with 12.04
[20:32] <pvl1> BlueEagle, well how would u solve package dependencies with apt-get?
[20:32] <maelcum> hi. i'm helping a flatmate with this computer, so i'm not sure what he did during the 12.04 upgrade. in any case his home directory is encrypted now and it isn't automatically mounted on login. unity comes up with basically only the background due to that. what to do?
[20:32] <rabbi1> my desktop resolution screwed up while trying to install nvidia driver, how to recover ?
[20:33] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: you should look for something like this: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] (rev a2)
[20:33] <kurt1> pvl1: okay I ran it and another term menu you came up
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: Yeah, I have two lines that go like that, haha!
[20:33] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: what model does it say
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> Ben64:  02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2) 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] (rev a1)
[20:33] <Upsadont> and so that? what i can?
[20:33] <dreamy_> is there a conversation room for mac and linux?
[20:33] <pvl1> kurt1, hit b
[20:34] <lafon> I'm getting a lot of kernel panics with 10.04. any ideas?
[20:34] <Upsadont> i don`t know these login;pass
[20:34] <wylde> !alis | dreamy_
[20:34] <sirriffsalot> dreamy_: linux by itself is too vague I think. If you're running ubuntu this is the place:)
[20:34] <dreamy_> ty
[20:34] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: well thats strange, maybe you have an onboard card and a real card in the computer?
[20:34] <kurt1> pvl1: okay done - next
[20:34] <pvl1> kurt1, did broken packages come up
[20:34] <rabbi1> my desktop resolution screwed up while trying to install nvidia driver, how to recover ?
[20:35] <kurt1> pvl1: yes I red
[20:35] <alex-> I just broke my Ubuntu system
[20:35] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: how would I check if that is so? I haven't added anything to this shitty computer... nvidia knows how to make life difficult though
[20:35] <alex-> By installing some other packages which aren't there by default in Ubuntu
[20:35] <alex-> What can I do to fix it?
[20:35] <wylde> sirriffsalot dreamy_ : this is the ubuntu support channel, for general chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:35] <kurt1> pvl1: package names higlighted in RED
[20:35] <sirriffsalot> wylde: I am still talking ubuntu mate
[20:35] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: look at the back of the computer, see how many VGA and/or DVI ports there are, and where they are located
[20:36] <pvl1> kurt1, open them up hitting enter, find out what they need by hitting down. i guess use apt-get to actually install the packages but you can use this as a tool to find what u need to install
[20:36] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: well, there are two ports for connecting the screen, one at the top and one at the bottom
[20:36] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: yeah, then you have two video cards
[20:36] <BlueEagle> !info ubuntu-standard
[20:36] <alex-> http://pastebin.com/XcHjDF77
[20:37] <alex-> Anyone can help me out?
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: the reason I ask is because I am running virtualbox with a windows vista... and I can't get the right nvidia drivers done which I need... Any idea how I would go about getting it installed?
[20:37] <Upsadont> ok, everything doesn`t know solve
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: update manager hasn't done the trick so far...
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: IN vista;D
[20:37] <Ben64> sirriffsalot: so ubuntu is the virtual one?
[20:37] <BlueEagle> kurt1: The "ubuntu-standard" virtual package depends on all packages needed to get a standard ubuntu system. Attempting to install this will show you all packages needed to get to the standard system. I apologize if that is not the challenge you face.
[20:37] <rabbi1> my desktop resolution screwed up while trying to install nvidia driver, how to recover ?
[20:38] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: no, vista is :)
[20:39] <kurt1> BlueEagle: The problem is libreoffice will not worj becuase of a package issue with python-uno
[20:39] <Oer> alex- are you running mint ?
[20:39] <alex-> Oer: nope, I tried to install MATE on my Ubuntu 11.04 system
[20:40] <Aress> when I write at terminal dpkg --get-selections | grep wine
[20:40] <Aress>  I got wine versions and deinstall what should it mean?
[20:40] <auronandace> alex-: 11.04 already has gnome2, why do you want mate?
[20:40] <alex-> auronandace: To install  the Mint menu
[20:41] <SunTsu> Aress: what are you trying to achieve anyway?
[20:41] <rabbi1> how to remove the add ppa 's ?
[20:41] <Aress> I want delete wine completely
[20:41] <rabbi1> how to remove the added ppa 's ?
[20:41] <Aress> rabbi1 you can remove it easily with synaptic package manager
[20:41] <auronandace> alex-: have you considered, oh i don't know, using mint instead?
[20:41] <wylde> !ppapurge | rabbi1
[20:41] <escott> !ppa-purge | rabbi1
[20:41] <SunTsu> Aress: apt-get remove wine\*
[20:41] <Aress> go to repositories and delet what pp you want
[20:41] <BlueEagle> Aress: apt-get purge wine
[20:41] <alex-> auronandace: I don't want to loose my current ubuntu installation
[20:42] <BlueEagle> Aress: For the manual type `man apt-get` or for the usage `apt-get --help`
[20:42] <auronandace> alex-: well mate isn't supported here
[20:42] <rabbi1> Aress: i am on 12.04 and not installed package manager
[20:42] <alex-> True, but where do I have to ask then auronandace
[20:42] <alex-> ?
[20:42] <auronandace> alex-: the mate devs
[20:42] <alex-> In MATE or Mint channel they'll probably say: Ubuntu isn't supported here
[20:43] <alex-> Nah, I'm looking in a way to fix this
[20:43] <alex-> I can't open any program anymore
[20:43] <sirriffsalot> Ben64: Is there a way of telling which of the two cards my screen is currently connected to then?:)
[20:43] <alex-> Quicksynergy won't start, update manager won't start, software center won't start
[20:43] <alex-> I can't even apt-get upgrade
[20:43] <Aress> when I write dpkg --get-selections | grep wine I got for ex. wine1.2 deinstall what should it mean?
[20:43] <auronandace> alex-: you do understand what "not supported" means?
[20:43] <alex-> auronandace: So I don't really see how MATE devs could help with this
[20:43] <BlueEagle> alex-: Did you attempt to install MATE on natty?
[20:44] <alex-> BlueEagle: 11.04 is natty?
[20:44] <Aress> Yes
[20:44] <alex-> Now it got into the login screen
[20:44] <auronandace> alex-: trying to install mate on a system that already has gnome2 will break things
[20:44] <Guest94722> ciao
[20:44] <Guest94722> !list
[20:44] <alex-> auronandace: Ye I know now, I'm looking for a way how to fix
[20:44] <rabbi1> any help on getting my resolution back after screwing up during nvidia installation ?
[20:45] <BlueEagle> Aress: Because what the error message is saying that the version of MATE you are attempting to install requires pkg-config version 0.36-1 or higher but Natty only has 0.25-1 availible.
[20:45] <BlueEagle> Aress: Sorry. Wrong nick.
[20:45] <auronandace> alex-: you don't break it in the first place
[20:45] <BlueEagle> alex-: Because what the error message is saying that the version of MATE you are attempting to install requires pkg-config version 0.36-1 or higher but Natty only has 0.25-1 availible.
[20:45] <BlueEagle> s/0.36/0.26/
[20:46] <resno> im having un-met dependcies tried -f and it wont fix it... any ideas?
[20:46] <auronandace> alex-: if you know it isn't supported and you know it breaks the system then why did you install it?
[20:47] <auronandace> alex-: you can't really fix it from here, you need to reinstall afresh
[20:47] <BlueEagle> alex-: apt-get remove -f libgail-dev libgtk2.0-0 and libgtk2.0-dev
[20:47] <kurt1> pvl1: I was able to remove the pakages using aptitude menu system
[20:48] <sirriffsalot> Anyone else aware of how to tell which of the two cards my screen is currently connected to is?:)
[20:49] <Oer> sirriffsalot, " lspci | grep VGA " tells you the current one in use
[20:49] <sirriffsalot> Oer: that too gives me both :-/
[20:49] <no12u_> where can I tell ubuntu to use PAM for samba auth?
[20:49] <BlueEagle> no12u_: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:50] <pvl1> kurt1, i guess that works lol
[20:50] <no12u_> I want pam to let non-root user see my windows shares
[20:50] <BlueEagle> no12u_: ok.
[20:51] <kurt1> pvl1: it aloowed me to remove the libreoffice and python-uno broken crap
[20:51] <no12u_> because they can authenticate via likewise-open, so samba shouldn't ask for the passwd but it does
[20:51] <kurt1> pvl1: which I could not so in the GUI or terminal windown in the GUI
[20:51] <BlueEagle> no12u_: It will unless it is configured not to.
[20:51] <vlt> Hello. What cli torrent client comes with Ubuntu that can handle magnet links?
[20:51] <BlueEagle> vlt: rtorrent is what I use.
[20:51] <pvl1> kurt1, well you may want to try reinstalling if u need an office type package
[20:52] <no12u_> I can specify user/pass in my fstab but thats not an option
[20:52] <vlt> BlueEagle: Thanks
[20:52] <pvl1> BlueEagle, do use a web ui
[20:52] <BlueEagle> pvl1: For samba? No.
[20:52] <pvl1> BlueEagle, rtorrent
[20:52] <applebroz222> hello
[20:52] <BlueEagle> pvl1: No, not for that either. I use screen and rtorrent.
[20:53] <kurt1> pvl1: thanks for the help
[20:53] <applebroz222> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:53] <applebroz222> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:53] <pvl1> kurt1, no problem
[20:53] <applebroz222> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[20:53] <FloodBot1> applebroz222: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | applebroz222
[20:53] <applebroz222> -FLOOD
[20:54] <pvl1> BlueEagle, is rtorrent in the repo now? i had trouble with building some dependencies last time
[20:54] <BlueEagle> pvl1: It's in the repo.
[20:54] <no12u_> I think I found the fixx, if I edit my /etc/pam.d/samba
[20:54] <BlueEagle> pvl1: Has been for at least a year.
[20:54] <xangua> pvl1: the default torrent client, transmission, has also cli and web interface
[20:55] <applebroz222> can i try ubuntu from a disc???
[20:55] <pvl1> BlueEagle, gotcha thank you.
[20:55] <applebroz222> can i try ubuntu from a disc???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[20:55] <pvl1> xangua, rtorrent > everything
[20:55] <LjL> applebroz222: 1) yes 2) stop with the flooding
[20:56] <BlueEagle> applebroz222: Please limit yourself to a maximum of three punctuation marks. Yes, you can try Ubunto from a CD, DVD or USB drive.
[20:56] <SCarboni> it would say liveCD on it
[20:56] <pvl1> or flash!
[20:56] <resno> ive got 8gb of should i go 32bit or 64bitinstall?
[20:56] <corentin> hi
[20:56] <applebroz222> hi
[20:56] <SCarboni> it depends if your processor can handle 64bit
[20:56] <BlueEagle> applebroz222: Also, please read the !guidelines
[20:56] <applebroz222> ok
[20:56] <SCarboni> if you have a 64 OS now, then go 64
[20:56] <zykotick9> resno: if you need to ask, use 32.  but i'd certainly use 64bit - with 8GB RAM
[20:57] <corentin> how can i mount ntfs partition with case insentive filenames on lucid?
[20:57] <applebroz222> so im about to try ubuntu
[20:57] <BlueEagle> !enter | applebroz222
[20:57] <applebroz222> POP the install disc has finished burning!
[20:57] <resno> SCarboni: are you the s carboni?
[20:57] <resno> SCarboni: indie game from revision 3?
[20:57] <SCarboni> resno, ?
[20:57] <lafon> 10.04 giving me lots of kernel panics. turning off high graphics reduced but did not remove them. anything else to fix this?
[20:57] <rabbi1> guys, help me recover my resolution :(. screwed up during nvidia setup ....
[20:58] <SCarboni> lol, no that's Anthony Carboni
[20:58] <resno> SCarboni: ah, heh.
[20:58] <BlueEagle> lafon: It would depend on the cause of the kernel panics I guess.
[20:58] <klh> Attempting to replace nautilus with pcmanfm, edit /usr/share/applications/nautilus* files but still nautilus loads
[20:58] <BlueEagle> lafon: Anything useful in kern.log or similar?
[20:58] <alex-> BlueEagle: same error :|
[20:58] <lafon> BlueEagle, how could I find them out?
[20:58] <resno> why would a machine just freeze up?
[20:58] <BlueEagle> lafon: less /var/log/kern.log
[20:59] <BlueEagle> alex-: So you are not able to force remove the pakcages either?
[20:59] <alex-> BlueEagle: nope
[20:59] <SCarboni> @resno, a number a reason.  Its easier to just reboot
[20:59] <SCarboni> Also, how do you reply to a specific person
[20:59] <applebroz222> is a ubuntu install disc bootable?
[20:59] <klh> any ideas as to how to make pcmanfm load rather then nautilus?
[21:00] <lafon> BlueEagle, anything that should jump out at me?
[21:00] <resno> SCarboni: usually first letter of name and then tab... program may differ
[21:00] <resno> SCarboni: im rebooting alot...
[21:00] <alex-> applebroz222: yes
[21:00] <SCarboni> resno: How often does it happen and what are you doing at that time?
[21:00] <alex-> klh: which ubuntu version?
[21:00] <resno> SCarboni: this time... watching top
[21:00] <klh> 12.04
[21:01] <alex-> klh: go to control panel
[21:01] <SCarboni> resno: watching top?
[21:01] <alex-> idk the exact name of it. you know where  to find it?
[21:01] <resno> SCarboni: wasnt doing anything..
[21:01] <SCarboni> resno: Could be overheating or bad RAM
[21:02] <SCarboni> resno: Those are just two things from the top of my head
[21:02] <alex-> klh: idk the exact name of it. you know where  to find it?
[21:02] <BlueEagle> alex-: dpkg --remove --force-all libgail-dev
[21:02] <alex-> klh: and then default applications or something
[21:02] <klh> gotcha, will try
[21:02] <resno> SCarboni: i doubt its overheating, but ill test ram
[21:02] <sonja> i uninstalled pulseaudio. but Flash in chromium won't pick up my ALSA and play to it. help?
[21:02] <BlueEagle> alex-: If that doesn't take it then I fear nothing will. :/
[21:02] <erictr1ck> having a bit of trouble getting virtualhosts to work in 11.10... I+ have three virtual hosts defined in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf however, they all seem to be pointing to the same directory even though DocumentRoot is defined differently in each. Any suggestions on what I+ might be doing wrong?
[21:03] <rabbi1> will there be any solution for nvidia cards. tried few different drivers, and no luck at last. now lost my usual resolution config aswell... :(
[21:03] <alex-> BlueEagle: i still got problems with other packages
[21:03] <BlueEagle> alex-: Then you insert them instead of libgail-dev
[21:03] <alex-> Now I have a complete list of all my packages...
[21:04] <alex-> When I want to install something
[21:04] <SCarboni> resno: Do you only have ubuntu install on the machine because idk if you just installed it or the restarts just started happening but it could be a bad install
[21:04] <BlueEagle> !enter alex-
[21:04] <BlueEagle> !enter |alex-
[21:04] <sirriffsalot> Is there a list of IRC channels for Linux anywhere?
[21:04] <BlueEagle> !alis | sirriffsalot
[21:05] <BlueEagle> sirriffsalot: That is for #Freenode only though. I do not know of any comprehensive list that covers the other major IRC networks.
[21:05] <sirriffsalot> BlueEagle: well I have no idea what I am looking for, so that doesn't really help:D
[21:06] <BlueEagle> sirriffsalot: What are you looking for?
[21:06] <sirriffsalot> BlueEagle: to make it more specific, are there any channels where ubuntu users who enjoy games get together to talk?:)
[21:06] <BlueEagle> !ot | sirriffsalot - this is a good start:
[21:06] <MaynardWaters> noob time: I was attempting to set up a desktop cube using compiz, and I have lost the bars at the top of all my windows because something got disabled, but I dont know what, Please help
[21:07] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Sounds like you're missing gnome-panel
[21:08] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: Connot register the panelsheell, there is already one running
[21:08] <MaynardWaters> its just the part that has the min max adn X buttons, I can still see teh file edit view etc
[21:08] <auronandace> MaynardWaters: compiz --replace
[21:08] <lafon> BlueEagle: anything in the kernel log that I should lok for explicitly?
[21:09] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[21:09] <BlueEagle> lafon: Well it would be what ever was going on right before the kernel panic hit.
[21:09] <MaynardWaters> auronandace: that moved some things around, but did not give me back those buttons adn the ability to drag the windows
[21:09] <sirriffsalot> BlueEagle: Well, it's a pretty narrowed down question... but I'm trying to get back on the world of warcraft horse with wine, and make life more difficult by just hanging around in privateservers, but I am finding this very difficult... has anyone tried this? commets?
[21:09] <sirriffsalot> comments*
[21:09] <BlueEagle> lafon: If you have three or four instances when the kernel panic hit you may be able to find a pattern of stuff that was going on just before. That may help narrow down the issue.
[21:10] <Sheldon420> maynardwaters: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104690/title-bar-disappears-suddenly-when-compiz-is-enabled
[21:10] <Aress> how to do like this http://78.lt/di-DV12.png
[21:10] <BlueEagle> lafon: You could of course do a blanket test on memory and harddisk to see if either of them fail. Both have been known to cause panics in the past.
[21:10] <Aress> how to do like this one http://78.lt/di-DV12.png
[21:10] <Sheldon420> maynardwaters: also, see if this works for you https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/ubuntu-11-04-lunch-bar-and-menu-bar-gone-873245/
[21:11] <BlueEagle> sirriffsalot: That question would probably go in #ubuntu-offtopic, #wine or search alis for games or linux games or some such.
[21:11] <sirriffsalot> BlueEagle: thanks for your time!!
[21:11] <BlueEagle> sirriffsalot: No problem at all. :)
[21:12] <Sheldon420> aress: what exactly do you wanna do?
[21:12] <Peri_> Hi, I am wondering what is the link to ubuntu 12.04 64 bit edition with the additional drivers on the cd?
[21:12] <Aress> I want to do that in bar which is marked red should be skype torrent irc programs which i close windows it should be there. but it aren't
[21:13] <Oer> Peri_, there is no iso including additional drivers, you need to download then from the interwebs
[21:13] <ZaNeIuM> im useing dd in a terminal to clone a drive its running but i dont see any real activity, is there something like windows maskmaniger to see the disk activity?
[21:13] <Peri_> Okay, I have a macbook pro 13 inch late 2011 and my wireless is not working... anyone know the drivers needed? ubuntu is not able to find them through the additional drivers program
[21:14] <lafon> BluEagle, thanks for the suggestions, internet quit so i wasn't able to reply. the lines before the kernel panic don't seem to be the same. the only consitency is "kernel logging closed"
[21:14] <Sheldon420> peri_ there is no separate cd /dvd with additional drivers.  install the regular one , and open the "additional drivers" app to install it
[21:14] <BlueEagle> ZaNeIuM: You could probably watch process activity with `top`
[21:14] <Peri_> Sheldon420: it is not able to find them
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> or htop
[21:14] <Sheldon420> peri_ what is the output of "ifconfig" and "iwconfig"
[21:15] <BlueEagle> lafon: Well if there is no pattern then there is not one given kernel activity that causes it. Next stop is a few passes of memtest
[21:15] <wylde> or if you want a gui 'gnome-system-monitor'
[21:15] <Peri_> I am not able to do it on my mac. I need to reinstall the ubuntu OS
[21:16] <lafon> BlueEagle, ram and HDD are fine, any way I can test video ram?
[21:17] <Peri_> Thanks for you'r help. I will be back soon on ubuntu
[21:17] <Aress> I want to do that in bar which is marked red should be skype torrent irc programs which i close windows it should be there. but it aren't
[21:17] <Aress> how to do like this one http://78.lt/di-DV12.png
[21:18] <BlueEagle> lafon: The next suspect would actually be heat.
[21:19] <BlueEagle> lafon: Does your mother board BIOS sport temperature monitoring?
[21:19] <lafon> BlueEagle, yeah
[21:19] <lafon> BlueEagle, no errors there and both side panels are off whith a table fan right beside it.
[21:19] <BlueEagle> lafon: Then I suggest you hop into the bios as quick as you can on the next panic to see if any temperatures are out of whack. See also !sensors
[21:19] <BlueEagle> !sensors |lafon
[21:20] <lafon> BlueEagle, will do, and thanks
[21:21] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[21:21] <Notch> hi
[21:22] <Guest69503> hello
[21:22] <alex-> BlueEagle: Thanks, this did the job
[21:22] <Guest69503> im having a problem
[21:23] <lafon> !ask | Guest69503
[21:23] <emanuele> salve
[21:23] <Guest69503> when i boot from a ubuntu disc i have a black screen, when i force turn off i see the ubuntu try/install screen blink for a second
[21:24] <ofprietoGonzalez> hola buenas tardes
[21:24] <Guest69503> when i boot from a ubuntu disc i have a black screen, when i force turn off i see the ubuntu try/install screen blink for a second anybody know why?????
[21:25] <Guest69503> when i boot from a ubuntu disc i have a black screen, when i force turn off i see the ubuntu try/install screen blink for a second
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| Guest69503
[21:25] <alex-> Is there any way how I can see which hdd I have in my system?
[21:25] <FastLizard4> Hello, I'm having an issue connecting to wifi in Ubuntu 12.04
[21:26] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[21:26] <wylde> alex-: sudo fdisk -l
[21:26] <FastLizard4> Every time I try to connect, syslog reports a reassociation loop, each beginning with the error "CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED reason=4"
[21:26] <FastLizard4> The network is WPA2-PEAP, and I think this is the first time I've tried connecting since upgrading to 12.04
[21:26] <alex-> wylde: No I mean how many GB and 5400 or 7200 rpm
[21:26] <Aress> http://78.lt/di-DV12.png <--- HOW TO DO LIKE THIS? :(
[21:27] <FastLizard4> It worked fine on 11.10, and 12.04LTS connects fine to my WPA2-PSK network at home
[21:27] <lelamal_> !caps | Aress
[21:27] <BlueEagle> lafon: Actually gkrellm was easy to set up with temperature sensors and it even detected my nVidia temperature as well.
[21:28] <alex-> What Aress means, is how to put the Skype Icon in the top next to the mail icon in Ubuntu 12.04
[21:28] <ZaNeIuM> is there a way to see what dd is doing after it starts cloning drives?
[21:28] <BlueEagle> ZaNeIuM: There is no progress indicator other than indirectly monitoring harddisk- and process activity. But we've already told you that, haven't we?
[21:28] <wylde> alex-: could try 'sudo lshw -C Disk' I suppose. Not sure that will show rpm though.
[21:28] <alex-> How can I find out which HDD I have? (5400 or 7200 rpm) ?
[21:28] <Aress> alex- YES YES YSE
[21:29] <Aress> excatly
[21:29] <joao> hey
[21:29] <joao> good niht
[21:29] <alex-> nope, not how many rpm :(
[21:29] <krababbel> alex-: google the model number
[21:30] <alex-> krababbel: I find many laptops with my model number
[21:30] <alex-> But all with a different cpu
[21:30] <joao> I don't have any sound on flash, be it on firefox, chromium, chrome, etc. How can I solve this? (12.04LTS)
[21:30] <wylde> alex-: take the vendor and product strings and search?
[21:30] <krababbel> hdd model number alex-
[21:30] <alex-> krababbel: how?
[21:30] <Aress> alex-: Can you help me with it ?
[21:30] <alex-> Aress: no
[21:31] <krababbel> alex-: with 'sudo lshw -C Disk', product line
[21:31] <joao> does anyone know how to solve this?!
[21:31] <e2b04836> alex-: that info is displayed in disk utility
[21:32] <joao> or is anyone even reading this 0.o
[21:33] <e2b04836> !patience |joao
[21:33] <Aress> alex-: Please help me :(
[21:33] <krababbel> joao: when you play a flash video, look in sound settings
[21:33] <FastLizard4> Just wondering if anyone saw my question :P
[21:33] <alex-> Yay, I found the one
[21:33] <alex-> Aress: I already said: I don't know how
[21:33] <alex-> Ask someone else
[21:33] <ZaNeIuM> BlueEagle: thx, didnt see that comment :)
[21:33] <alex-> I have this laptop: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/265735/hp-625-%28wt149ea%29.html#tab:info
[21:34] <majuscul1> I've disabled plymouth in /etc/init, why am I still getting a purple bootscreen with the ubuntu logo?
[21:35] <Sheldon420> joao: try https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/no-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04-a-943298/
[21:35] <wylde> majuscul1: you have to edit /etc/default/grub then run sudo update-grub
[21:35] <zykotick9> majuscul1: have you tried removing quiet and splash from /dec/default/grub?
[21:35] <zykotick9> s/dec/etc/
[21:35] <ZaNeIuM> what am i looking for in the top command
[21:36] <alex-> How can I check if I really have a Ethernet 1Gbps ?
[21:36] <lafon> BlueEagle: Thanks! I can now see the temps quickly. :P
[21:36] <no12u_> exit
[21:37] <herpladee> hey guys you know that thing where you can press ctrl+alt+f1 to enter a new console?
[21:37] <herpladee> can i do that with a graphical environment?
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> herpladee  no
[21:37] <zykotick9> herpladee: yes, but you'll need more then one user
[21:37] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: you can run multiple X sessions
[21:37] <majuscul1> wylde: zykotick9: thanks
[21:38] <herpladee> zykotick9, can you point me in the right direction if i want to do this?
[21:38] <herpladee> like a link or something
[21:38] <e2b04836> alex-: plug in a cable then use ifconfig
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  if the guys asks such question, i guess he's not skilled enough to do that
[21:38] <zykotick9> herpladee: with lightdm no - there was gdmflexiserver before
[21:38] <onekt> any simple way to change default (gateway) interface,  usb0-->wlan0?
[21:39] <zykotick9> herpladee: with another user you could try "startx -- :1"
[21:39] <ZaNeIuM> does dd take the same time for say a 250gb disk weather there is much free space or not?
[21:39] <Aress> how to put the Skype Icon in the top next to the mail icon in Ubuntu 12.04
[21:39] <Jordan_U> ZaNeIuM: Yes.
[21:39] <herpladee> hmm i'm on lucid
[21:39] <wylde> ZaNeIuM: yes, bacause it copies bit by bit
[21:39] <BallsOfSteeeeel> is anybody else having issues with connecting the the Canonical servers? Cant apt-get or package-manager anything
[21:40] <zykotick9> herpladee: then try "gdmflexiserver" from Xorg to get another login at F8
[21:40]  * onekt googles
[21:40] <krababbel> onekt: enter the gateway address in both connections
[21:40] <BallsOfSteeeeel> i expect its just my local server (in iReland) but i was wondering if it was bigger than that
[21:40] <herpladee> wow startx thing is actually working
[21:40] <BallsOfSteeeeel> 1 minute i will  get the IP
[21:41] <BobMarley> hello
[21:41] <BobMarley> i have 4 physical gb of ram and the ubuntu just identifies 3 gb
[21:41] <BobMarley> if i hibernate my pc when the ram uses just 300mb
[21:41] <krababbel> BobMarley: better use 64bit ubuntu
[21:41] <zykotick9> BobMarley: are you using 32bit? (without PAE)
[21:42] <BobMarley> yes, 32 bit
[21:42] <zykotick9> !pae | BobMarley
[21:42] <BobMarley> no, the problem is not that
[21:42] <BallsOfSteeeeel> @@@@Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/liba/libav/libpostproc51_0.6.2-1ubuntu1.1_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.192 80]@@@@ This is the IP of the server, it is what my OS is looking for for a lot of downloads
[21:42] <BallsOfSteeeeel> i cant even get the rpm program
[21:43] <BobMarley> today i have hibernated my pc and i got a message in the black screen saying: om: not enough free swap
[21:43] <trism> BallsOfSteeeeel: run: sudo apt-get update; and try again
[21:43] <BobMarley> i have 1 gb of swap
[21:43] <Firebolt> the IP returns pings fine
[21:43] <zykotick9> BobMarley: swap must be larger then physical RAM to use hibernate
[21:43] <wylde> BobMarley: you should have minimum the same swap as RAM.
[21:44] <BallsOfSteeeeel> @trism that may not work if its the big update, a lot of it comes from that canonical server
[21:44] <alex-> e2b04836: will it show me the speed then?
[21:44] <BobMarley> even when i close my pc the used ram is just 300 mb?
[21:44] <BobMarley> wylde, and zykotick9 ??
[21:44] <krababbel> alex-: in network settings
[21:44] <ZaNeIuM> wylde: omg so this 250gb might tale 24hrs or more?
[21:44] <e2b04836> alex-: yes the speed should be there for eth0
[21:44] <trism> BallsOfSteeeeel: issues some of that generally mean the package was replaced by a newer version on the server (haven't looked at that package, but I can now, one moment)
[21:45] <zykotick9> BobMarley: i'm adding you to /ignore - SWAP must be larger then RAM to use Hibernate - i'm repeating myself
[21:45] <BobMarley> to use at minimum 8 gb for swap is a lot of space
[21:45] <alex-> ah
[21:45] <wylde> ZaNeIuM: maybe? I've never used dd for an FS that big.
[21:45] <Etale> Hi all. I'm getting a new laptop next week, and I was considering installing gentoo instead of ubuntu. I hear that it takes about a week to install. What are the advantages?
[21:46] <wylde> Etale: ask in a gentoo channel?
[21:46] <lafon> ZaNeIuM, probably more than 24 hrs.
[21:46] <zykotick9> Etale: i left gentoo for ubuntu many years ago - i was tired of system breaking all the time (but that's what you get with a rolling distro)
[21:46] <BallsOfSteeeeel> @trism "how do i do the whisper?" dont look at the package it was just an example
[21:47] <trism> BallsOfSteeeeel: what version of ubuntu is this?
[21:47] <BallsOfSteeeeel> @trism its just the server itself thats down for me, its the same with any downloads from the ubuntu downloads management (term or manager)
[21:48] <onekt> krababbel, tks,  route add & route del works,  wish I had a simpler way ....
[21:48] <BallsOfSteeeeel> its actually backbox (dont ask) i just need a browser and this is the only distro i got to hand
[21:48] <BallsOfSteeeeel> so im trying to get flash on it
[21:48] <BallsOfSteeeeel> feel free to pelt me with rottten veg
[21:48] <krababbel> onekt: I believe network manager would do that after reboot or restart, but Ok :)
[21:49] <krababbel> onekt: also two terminal commands, can't get much simpler than that
[21:49] <trism> BallsOfSteeeeel: yes, that is not supported here, but the problem is still the same, that file (and probably the others you didn't post) are not on the repo
[21:49] <BallsOfSteeeeel> yes, i.e. not preinstalled right?
[21:50] <BobMarley> wylde, zykotick9, thank you for the provided help
[21:53] <mjtowell> Can anyone recommend an application that will automatically add missing ID3 tags to mp3 files?
[21:54] <beandog> mjtowell: easytag
[21:54] <beandog> kind of.
[21:54] <escott> !info picard | mjtowell
[21:54] <zykotick9> beandog: that's not "really" automatic ;)
[21:54] <beandog> zykotick9: true :T
[21:55] <ARTSIOM> on 12.04 I have created a new user with a adduser command. why it is not picking up path from /etc/environment?
[21:55] <uncino> !list
[21:55] <mjtowell> beandog, escott thanks for your suggestions.
[21:57] <chsados> hello i am having trouble installing ubuntu and booting from thumb drive.  I get this upon boot http://i.imgur.com/wCA0r.jpg  I downloaded the iso image (ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso) and with the usb installer i selected ubuntu 12.04 desktop.  im wondering i was supposed to select Ubuntu 12.04 alternate amd64 instead since i dl the 64 bit version?
[21:58] <proxinix> Canonical doesn't care if your system doesn't install lmbo
[21:59] <dei> qmas
[21:59] <Sheldon420> chsados, What happens after you see that screen?  Because that is the first screen during installation.
[21:59] <dei> necesito que me ayudesn
[21:59] <chsados> it just sits there
[21:59] <beandog> dei: #ubuntu-es
[21:59] <wyllmore> Q PAS
[22:00] <chsados> i guess i didnt give it more than 3 or so minutes to do anything
[22:00] <krababbel> Sheldon420: the green line looks like a freeze
[22:00] <dei> quien me ayuda
[22:00] <chsados> do i let it sit longer?
[22:00] <wyllmore>  ola
[22:00] <escott> !es | dei
[22:00] <wyllmore>  1b
[22:00] <Sheldon420> chsados, Did you do a md5 hash check to see whether you've got a proper iso image that isn't corrupt?
[22:01] <chsados> i did not
[22:01] <Sheldon420> chsados, Do that.  Also, do you have an exotic graphics card?
[22:01] <chsados> i have an ati 4850
[22:01] <chsados> 4890*
[22:03] <Sheldon420> chsados, Check the md5 hash and see it if matches.  Most likely a corrupt iso file.
[22:03] <Sheldon420> chsados, If not, something to do with the graphics drivers.  We'll have to figure that out after the hash check.
[22:03] <chsados> sheldon420 shamelessly i dont know how to do that im heading to the site to find out how
[22:04] <chsados> can i use the windows installer to install onto a thumb drive?
[22:04] <Sheldon420> chsados, Cool.  It's pretty simple.  Navigate to the folder where the iso file is, type "md5sum <filename>" and compare the result with the one on ubuntu's website
[22:04] <bleach46290> greetings
[22:04] <chsados> im in windows currently i do that in command window?
[22:05] <EvilResistance> chsados:  you use unetbootin to install the image to a USB drive.  installing Ubuntu directly to a thumbdrive *can* be done, but it has its limitations
[22:05] <Sheldon420> chsados, Oh, that command works in Linux.  Not sure about Windows, a Google search will tell you.
[22:06] <Sheldon420> chsados, there should be some sort of software -- fastsum etc
[22:06] <chsados> so you recommend installing ubuntu on an actuall HDD?  I have an empty 500gb internal HD i could put it on instead i guess
[22:07] <Sheldon420> chsados, If that's what you want, yes.
[22:07] <dragpyre> I require assisstance.
[22:08] <chsados> ok sorry for the loaded questions...but can i use the windows installer to install it to my 500gb internal HDD or is the windows installer more like a virtual installation within windows?
[22:08] <EvilResistance> !wubi | chsados
[22:08] <e2b04836> !ask dragpyre
[22:08] <krababbel> chsados: an hdd would be recommended
[22:08] <e2b04836> whoops
[22:08] <e2b04836> !ask |dragpyre
[22:08] <EvilResistance> chsados:  that installs within the windows environment, but we recommend direct installs to hard drives
[22:08] <Sheldon420> chsados, use Unetbootin to install it directly to the hard disk.  Wubi installs it within Windows.
[22:08] <dragpyre> !ask
[22:09] <chsados> what is unetbootin is that similar to the usb installer?
[22:09] <dragpyre> Oh I'm so not used to IRC
[22:09] <chsados> "universal usb installer"
[22:09] <Sheldon420> dragpyre, what's the q?
[22:09] <Bsims> unetbootin chsados lets let install other distros to a usb drive its what I use
[22:09] <dragpyre> anyway, here goes. Just used the pendrivelinux installer thing to install ubuntu 12.04 onto my USB. I booted from it, and it said vmlinuz is missing.
[22:09] <dragpyre> So what's going on?
[22:09] <krababbel> chsados: I recommend linux live usb creator too.
[22:10] <chsados> keep im mind im in windows environment to create this usb iso install
[22:10] <krababbel> chsados: it is for windows
[22:11] <krababbel> chsados: can also create a persistant file, so the live ubuntu can save your preferences, if you want ubuntu on usb sometimes too
[22:11] <chsados> ok i will try  lili
[22:11] <dragpyre> anyway, here goes. Just used the pendrivelinux installer thing to install ubuntu 12.04 onto my USB. I booted from it, and it said vmlinuz is missing. So what's going on? I used to use the USB creator bundled in with the ISO.
[22:11] <chsados> i would like to use a usb as a persistant volume for sensitive data
[22:11] <Sheldon420> !unetbootin | chsados
[22:12] <dragpyre> !ask anyway, here goes. Just used the pendrivelinux installer thing to install ubuntu 12.04 onto my USB. I booted from it, and it said vmlinuz is missing. So what's going on? I used to use the USB creator bundled in with the ISO.
[22:12] <lion42> chsados, define sensitive?
[22:13] <krababbel> chsados: I guess the easiest would be an usb stick with integrated encryption, maybe
[22:13] <chsados> oke
[22:13] <lion42> As far as I know, it is not possible (or at least not easily possible) to encrypt a whole usb stick AND run ubuntu on it.
[22:13] <chsados> sensitive would be my gpg keys, banking info, bitcoin wallet etc
[22:13] <lion42> At least, it is less trivial than just encrypting a usb stick and using it for ONLY data, not to run an OS.
[22:14] <lion42> Which is what I'd recommend for what you are wanting to do...
[22:14] <chsados> lion42 thats why i shall install ubuntu on internal HDD and use a usb stick as encrypted persisent volume
[22:14] <dragpyre> :/
[22:14] <lion42> chsados, oh, okay. I thought that you meant to use the usb stick to do both!
[22:14] <cuddylier> How would I give specific ftp access for a user to certain folders on ubuntu? I want to rent out a game server on my server but, dont want them to have full access to all my files via ftp
[22:14] <dragpyre> Am I being ignored?
[22:15] <krababbel> chsados: no idea, maybe the installer would let you put encrypted /home onto the stick?
[22:15] <bleach46290> Hello everyone. While I was taking apart my laptop to clean out the CPU's heatsink, I made the mistake of disconnecting the CMOS battery from the motherboard and now I suspect I have to update the BIOS again. How do I do this from Ubuntu?
[22:15] <rottik9> how do i un install frostwire in 12.04
[22:15] <ikonia> bleach46290: nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:15] <krababbel> chsados: if not, maybe these would work, no idea how ubuntu would see them http://www.kingston.com/us/usb/encrypted_security
[22:16] <dragpyre> ...
[22:16] <chsados> krababbel  i was thinking just using trucrypt
[22:16] <chsados> for the usb
[22:16] <e2b04836> i was going to suggest trucrypt actually
[22:16] <lion42> dragpyre, you're not being ignored, but there's a lot of people here and many of them might not know the answer to your question. What I would recommend you do is to FIRST try reformatting the USB stick and reinstalling ubuntu again, and then using it again. If that doesn't work, try downloading a new and fresh copy of ubuntu. That usually resolves the problem.
[22:16] <lion42> chsados, that would make much more sense.
[22:16] <dragpyre> I've tried it three tie
[22:16] <dragpyre> *times and it does the same thing
[22:16] <lion42> dragpyre, did you try a new copy of ubuntu?
[22:17] <krababbel> chsados: don't know if ubuntu supports it, those sticks may be easier, depends on your situation :)
[22:17] <dragpyre> Yes, I downloaded a fresh copy.
[22:17] <dragpyre> I'm using a Kingston Data Traveller 101
[22:17] <krababbel> chsados: ubuntu setup shows an encrypted home option I think, never used it
[22:17] <e2b04836> try a different usb stick?
[22:17] <lion42> dragpyre, and are you sure you are completely deleting the contents of the drive when you are telling your usb creator to put the iso on it?
[22:17] <mikere> I've been having problems installing 12.04 server on a scsi raid 5 array (i've never installed on scsi or raid before).  I've been able to install just fine, but upon reboot no boot loader is found.  Any suggestions?  I selected whatever the default was for installing grub.
[22:17] <lion42> Or what e2b04836, yes. Some usb sticks are just uncooperative.
[22:18] <dragpyre> Lion42, yup, formatting as FAT32 like it says
[22:18] <chsados> linux must be installed on a fat or fat32 not nfts?
[22:18] <pibarnas> chsados, ?
[22:19] <lion42> dragpyre, is there an option for "ext4"?
[22:19] <dragpyre> Nope.
[22:19] <lion42> What options are there?
[22:19] <dragpyre> I've tried with Pendrivelinux and Lili USB Creator.
[22:20] <krababbel> chsados: i think ext would be recimmended
[22:20] <chsados> im using Linux live installer and it pops this up http://i.imgur.com/mvWkR.png
[22:20] <dragpyre> *hide created files on key
[22:20] <dragpyre> **Format the Key in FAT32
[22:20] <krababbel> chsados: the live usb, fat32
[22:21] <dragpyre> *Enable Launching Linux Live.
[22:21] <dragpyre> They're my options
[22:21] <chsados> ahh wait i cant use LiLI to install onto HDD i have to put it on USB first then install to HDD
[22:21] <krababbel> chsados: yes, boot the usb and install to hdd later
[22:21] <dragpyre> I'm running on an AMD Phenom II 960T in a ASUS M5A99X motherboard with UEFI BIOS.
[22:22] <chsados> gotcha
[22:22] <chsados> brb
[22:23] <xcyclist> rbenv fails on ubuntu 64 server 12.04:  http://pastebin.com/E5P3yLM4
[22:23] <lion42> dragpyre, I don't recognize the lili program and would not be able to advise you on how to use it. What I would suggest at this point will produce the least headache is to try a new usb stick, install using the pendrivelinux program, and follow the instructions on the ubuntu website as to how to use it. That should work.
[22:23] <xcyclist> rbenv fails on ree-* installs on ubuntu 64 server 12.04:  http://pastebin.com/E5P3yLM4
[22:24] <dragpyre> hmm.. would using the AMD64 iso make a difference?
[22:24] <chsados> im going to redownload the ISO just to be safe..... is it recommended to get the 64bit version if my CPU has the capabilities?
[22:24] <xcyclist> Sorry.  My first assertion was incomplete.
[22:24] <dragpyre> cause that's what I'm using now.
[22:24] <hpsd> hello, anyone can give ideas from where to start dns debugging on a 12.04 server? problem is that everything is running fine except for links/lynx which take around a minute to resolve website
[22:24] <krababbel> dragpyre: you don't need the linuxlive option
[22:25] <lion42> dragpyre, that is almost certainly correct. I think at this point the most likely issue is that you are either using a program to create the usb stick which is not getting things up right, or you just have a usb stick that is uncooperative.
[22:25] <mikere> hpsd ping by domain to see if that's slow
[22:25] <e2b04836> hpsd: try the 'dig' command
[22:25] <xcyclist> Above was cross posted to #ruby-lang
[22:25] <lion42> What -I would do- if I were experiencing the error you are experiencing is to try a new usb stick, make sure it is empty, and use pendrivelinux to create it.
[22:27] <Bsims> chsados: only need 64 bit if you have more than 4gigs of ram
[22:27] <hpsd> mikere: ping is fine
[22:27] <hpsd> e2b04836: dig is also fine
[22:27] <Clint-K6LCS> Updating a proiigram in Ubuntu 12.0.4 that is not in Synaptic nor Ubuntu Software programs. What is the "executable" file that I tell the system  to run to upgrade? (SeaMonkey)
[22:27] <mikere> hpsd then I'd assume your computer is using dns to resolve domain names just fine
[22:28] <hpsd> mikere: yes, the problem is only in lynx/links
[22:28] <krababbel> chsados: if you don't want to bother with special kernels and options, use 64bit with more than 3GB RAM
[22:29] <dragpyre> are there any overclocking tools for ubuntu/linux?
[22:29] <krababbel> !pae | chsados
[22:30] <Oer> dragpyre, overclocking is done in the bios
[22:31] <dragpyre> But in Windows, using my Motherboard manufacturers program, I can overclock in real time.
[22:31] <cuddylier> How would I give specific ftp access for a user to certain folders on ubuntu? I want to rent out a game server on my server but, dont want them to have full access to all my files via ftp
[22:31] <dragpyre> So I was wondering if there was an equivalent program in linux
[22:31] <hpsd> ?
[22:32] <e2b04836> cuddylier: which ftpd?
[22:32] <cuddylier> Yes
[22:32] <suborbital> dragpyre your bios should be good enough to OC
[22:32] <cuddylier> e2b04836: Yes
[22:32] <dragpyre> off to test this usb now. wish me luck
[22:33] <e2b04836> cuddylier: which one are you using ie vsftpd
[22:33] <TVZ> .flood 110 hiiiii
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <FloodBot1> TVZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <TVZ> ,|✿ hiiiii ✿|,
[22:33] <cuddylier> e2b04836: Just sftpd I think.
[22:34] <ARTSIOM> can someone please explaine the difference between "su user" and "su - user". especially the diffrenece in loading environment variables
[22:34] <dotnetted> Hey all - anyone know if it's possible to get a single MAAS node running on the same physical box as the MAAS server? - I tried installing a node inside virtualbox and it did pick up the MAAS server instance on the same machine but the installation died on the next step. Thanks.
[22:35] <e2b04836> cuddylier: are you actually using ftp or sftp?
[22:35] <cuddylier> e2b04836: sftp
[22:36] <e2b04836> cuddylier: it would be much easier to achieve what you want with ftp you can restrict users to /home/<username>
[22:36] <cuddylier> e2b04836: is it still possible with sftp and is ftp not less secure?
[22:37] <cuddylier> e2b04836: Also, would it be easy to switch to ftp?
[22:37] <e2b04836> cuddylier: it is less secure however you can enable encryption if its needed
[22:37] <e2b04836> also i believe it is possible with sftp but it's much harder
[22:37] <cuddylier> e2b04836: I am a complete n00b, would that be easy and if so, how would I actually change to ftp and enable encryption?
[22:37] <kkrauss> Hello all.  I am have several problems getting ubuntu running properly on my laptop.  I have an acer 9300 laptop that I just installed 12.04 on.  The first problem I am having is involving the video driver.  This laptops monitor is actually broken, so i have it hooked up to an external monitor which was working fine, but after I installed the driver for the video card, it does not display to the external monitor  only to the primary one
[22:37] <kkrauss> which is broken.  AND even when I fidget with the primary monitor you can see the desktop is not loading properly to do anything
[22:38] <Clint-K6LCS> Updating SeaMonkey in Ubuntu 12.0.4 that is not in Synaptic nor Ubuntu Software programs. What is the "executable" file that I tell the system  to run to upgrade?
[22:38] <e2b04836> cuddylier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293
[22:38] <xcyclist> http://pastebin.com/E5P3yLM4
[22:38] <hpsd> kkrauss: what video driver have you installed
[22:38] <e2b04836> that has all the info you need including encryption and chrooting
[22:38] <kkrauss> Nvidia
[22:38] <kkrauss> but dont remember the specifics
[22:39] <kkrauss> it was what was recommended to me by the "additional drivers"
[22:39] <cuddylier> e2b04836: Would this program conflict with my current sftp?
[22:39] <e2b04836> cuddylier: no
[22:39] <cuddylier> e2b04836: Good, thanks
[22:39] <e2b04836> no problem, best of luck
[22:39] <dotnetted> Is there a server-specific ubuntu channel on freenode?
[22:40] <kkrauss> I have a similar problem with my wireless card, I install the recommended driver for it but it simply won't turn on.  But before I can get back to tackling that I need to get the monitor working again
[22:41] <hpsd> kkrauss: as i remember the nvidia driver generates new xorg file, perhaps you should manually edit it to properly suit your needs
[22:41] <e2b04836> dotnetted: #ubuntu-server
[22:41] <kkrauss> well I have no way to do that right now
[22:41] <kkrauss> and even if I did I wouldn't know what to do
[22:41] <dotnetted> That should have been obvious ;) Thnx
[22:41] <kkrauss> anyway to simply roll back the driver?
[22:44] <hpsd> kkrauss: your best bet i suppose will be to kill the xserver and drop to console
[22:44] <hpsd> and from there try to edin the config
[22:45] <nickgaw> Hi, Where can I download the debootstrap script for ubuntu 12.04?
[22:46] <shaneo> hey guys if editing a quicklist how would i go abouts launching a wine application via the panel
[22:46] <kkrauss> hpsd: I even tried switching to a terminal, ctrl alt f1 etc, nothing happens, its just a blank screen
[22:47] <hpsd> kkrauss: so after for example reboot the boot logo is ok, and then it drops you to blank screen?
[22:48] <kkrauss> yes.  Before when booting it would display both on primary laptop monitor and external monitor.  After driver update it will only display to the laptop monitor.
[22:48] <helloguy> how can i find out the ownership of the ftp user?
[22:48] <AidenSF> Can someone help me with Dual Displays? Im on ubuntu 12.04 and it keeps mirroring dispalys instead of extending
[22:49] <zykotick9> AidenSF: nvidia?
[22:50] <AidenSF> ATI i believe
[22:51] <Clint-K6LCS> Please point me to a "Linux primer" - a site thatt covers the real basics of Linus for someone brand new to Ubuntu 12.0.4.
[22:51] <ikonia> Clint-K6LCS: https://help.ubuntu.com
[22:51] <hpsd> kkrauss: perhaps you can try to boot into console directly from grub
[22:52] <hpsd> without loading x
[22:52] <kkrauss> I am not dual booting
[22:52] <kkrauss> im looking that up now
[22:52] <Clint-K6LCS> Even more basic than that, please.I am uUpdating a program in Ubuntu 12.0.4 that is not in Synaptic nor Ubuntu Software programs. What is the "executable" file that I tell the system  to run to upgrade? (SeaMonkey)
[22:52] <kkrauss> some say hold shift so im going to try that but osmething tells me it wont work
[22:52] <hpsd> kkrauss: it doesn't matter, you still have grub
[22:53] <hpsd> kkrauss: bios -> grub -> linux kernel
[22:53] <MoTec> Clint-K6LCS: there will be no automatic update the, unless the application does it itself
[22:53] <MoTec> Clint-K6LCS: there will be no automatic update then, unless the application does it itself
[22:53] <Clint-K6LCS> No - SeaMonkey goes to itys site, and has us download the .zip fiule with all contained.
[22:54] <ikonia> Clint-K6LCS: that document will tell you how to manage software
[22:54] <Clint-K6LCS> Not in Synaptic nor Ubuntu Software.
[22:54] <ikonia> Clint-K6LCS: READ the document
[22:54] <Clint-K6LCS> Thank you!
[22:55] <hpsd> .
[22:55] <true_techie> whats a good text based terminal browser to use that will let me view source?
[22:57] <hpsd> clear
[22:57] <MoTec> Clint-K6LCS: for what it's worth.  seamonkey is in the apt-get repository..
[22:58] <kkrauss> hpsd: Ok so I booted into recovery console and from there tried to boot into failsafe graphics mode which failed, it said 0 displays found so I booted directly into terminal
[22:58] <true_techie> exit
[22:58] <kkrauss> when the laptop boots normally, I can see my psensors display, I can right click and create a new folder or file, but no app bar or anything else is visible, nor can I start a terminal for some reason
[23:00] <dotnetted> If an ubuntu CD install is shutting down on me is there a way to view some kind of log output? - Maybe if I live boot and then run the installer with some kind of parameters to store the log on a real disk? Thanks
[23:01] <sergiufreenode> who is the women that sleep with mens without marriege?
[23:01] <sergiufreenode> whore?
[23:01] <kkrauss> hpsd: I am viewing the xorg.conf file and it has virtually nothing in it
[23:01] <IdleOne> !guidelines > sergiufreenode
[23:02] <Snardbafulater> This channel is so lame
[23:02] <Snardbafulater> You all should join #ubuntu on Efnet
[23:02] <Snardbafulater> instead
[23:02] <Snardbafulater> just go to irc.efnet.org
[23:02] <Snardbafulater>  join #ubuntu
[23:02] <Snardbafulater> you can say the word nigger there, and you won't be banned
[23:04] <kkrauss> I am at a loss of what to do here
[23:06] <chsados> so i  ran into a problem with the bootloader
[23:06] <chsados> about to upload an image 1 moment
[23:06] <ominae> i've got an issue with screen lock. The screen blanks properly but on wake I can still see the title of the last webpage I was on and the unity toolbar. Is anyone else experiencing this?
[23:06] <fobelx> this may be a dumb question but can utouch framework be used in commercial projects?
[23:08] <bardzusny> hello, when will 11.04 stop receiving security updates?
[23:08] <chsados> when i tried to install i got an error saying it couldnt install a bootloader or something and asked me to point to a place (image: http://imgur.com/aHEwy )
[23:09] <chsados> i am trying to install onto the ATA WDC 500GB
[23:09] <chsados> the OCZ is my windows HDD and the seagate is an external i dont want to touch
[23:09] <kkrauss> Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this.  I have a laptop with a broken monitor so using an external one.  I used the additional drivers feature and installed the proprietary drivers for the nvidia card on the laptop.  Now when the laptop boots into ubuntu it wont display to the external monitor, only the broken primary montor.  It also has weird behavior, not displaying the entire desktop, not opening terminal when pressing ctrl al
[23:09] <kkrauss> t del, and just going blank when I switch to other terminals by pressing ctrl alt f1 f2 etc.
[23:09] <kkrauss> I cannot boot into graphic failsafe mode but can drop straight to terminal and that is as far as I can get
[23:10] <quiescens> bardzusny: october
[23:11] <bardzusny> quiescens: thank you
[23:12] <kkrauss> soemthing tells me I am screwed on this
[23:12] <chsados> can anyone help?  i have a freshly partitioned 2nd 500GB HDD im using the ubuntu 12.04 on a thumb drive trying to install it onto the 500gb HDD.  it seems i need to partition a swap and potentially another one for the bootloader bc at the end of the installation i got a bootloader error
[23:12] <chsados> can anyone direct me to documentation on this?
[23:13] <shaneo> hi could someone tell me what this means p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:13] <shaneo> sorry let me pastbinit
[23:14] <kkrauss> are there other ubuntu channels that are more active perhaps?
[23:14] <ikonia> last MoonTsuiPhone
[23:14] <ikonia> kkrauss: this one is very active
[23:15] <kkrauss> must be I am screwed then because it would appear I have a curve ball problem
[23:15] <ikonia> kkrauss: doesn't sound weird, just sounds like you've not setup the external monitor properly
[23:15] <Guest93983> hey guys! i just installed ubuntu 12.04. My ethernet port is working, but not seen by the connection manager. Any help?
[23:16] <kkrauss> I have no way to do so
[23:16] <kkrauss> ugh am I not explaining this right
[23:16] <kkrauss> I installed nvidia driver
[23:16] <kkrauss> rebooted as i was told
[23:16] <kkrauss> now I cant doa nything!
[23:16] <tyler_d> kkrauss: hold down left shift while booting
[23:16] <kkrauss> already did that
[23:16] <kkrauss> I tried booting into graphic failsafe
[23:16] <kkrauss> it fails
[23:16] <tyler_d> kkrauss: get to a restore and rebuild using the official drivers
[23:17] <tyler_d> kkrauss: your first mistake was installing the nvidia drivers
[23:17] <kkrauss> tyler_d: I did not recall seeing that option but will go check now
[23:17] <kkrauss> look man I am fairly new at this
[23:17] <Rexter> I've got a network issue on 12.04, anyone available to take a question?
[23:17] <kkrauss> I just saw "additional drivers needed pop up and followed it"
[23:17] <tyler_d> kkrauss: :) I think we were all once there. patience my friend
[23:17] <kkrauss> end quote wrong place
[23:18] <tyler_d> kkrauss: ahh, so you didn't install the "nvidia" drivers
[23:18] <kkrauss> tyler_d: im frustrated because I was suppsoed to ahve a web server up and running by now and I cant even get the first part done lol
[23:18] <kkrauss> tyler_d: I installed ubuntu
[23:18] <kkrauss> I went to additional drivers
[23:18] <kkrauss> it said nvidia drivers recommended etc etc
[23:18] <kkrauss> I did that
[23:18] <kkrauss> it said reboot
[23:18] <kkrauss> i rebooted
[23:18] <kkrauss> now poof
[23:18] <FloodBot1> kkrauss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <beandog> tyler_d: left shift?  what's that do
[23:19] <kkrauss> it shows the grub menu.  If you arent dual booting you usually dont see it
[23:19] <backbox> oi
[23:19] <tyler_d> kkrauss: should take to you a menu option where you can select to go to a default x session
[23:19] <kkrauss> tyler_d: graphic fail safe mode, but it fails saying 0 displays detected
[23:20] <shaneo> ok could someone assist me with this error please http://paste.ubuntu.com/988089/
[23:20] <tyler_d> kkrauss: :(
[23:21] <Divine_E> Hey guys, I am running Ubuntu 10.10, and I would like to upgrade to 12.04.  How would I go about doing that without having to burn a disc, or make a live USB ect.
[23:21] <beandog> tyler_d: oh nice
[23:21] <tyler_d> shaneo: try ---> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-wine-152-on-ubuntu.html
[23:21] <MoonTsuiPhone> When installing, what should I set the mount point to be
[23:21] <tyler_d> shaneo: linked from the forums
[23:21] <tyler_d> shaneo: no personal experience
[23:21] <MoonTsuiPhone> "/"
[23:21] <tyler_d> MoonTsuiPhone: that really does depend... sounds like a yes to me.. go for /
[23:21] <lion42> ...
[23:21] <lion42> haha
[23:22] <kkrauss> is there any way to juts undo the additional driver I installed?
[23:22] <kkrauss> right now the only thing I can do is boto recover console then drop to shell prompt
[23:22] <karni> Hi guys, I need help. Unity doesn't show any apps in the dash after I made a clean install of 12.04, but retained my home from 11.10
[23:22] <tyler_d> kkrauss: you can "disable" the driver once you get the gui back.. however if you get the gui back I think it will already be dissabled
[23:22] <karni> This is the second laptop I have this problem on. I tried unity --reset, with no luck.
[23:23] <kkrauss> ok thats the chicken and the egg
[23:23] <kkrauss> what about through the shell prompt
[23:23] <tyler_d> karni: you would need to whitelist the applications(if they are 3rd party)
[23:23] <kkrauss> what can I do through there?
[23:23] <ZetaRC12> anyone ever get an Acer Aspire One D-250 to sleep on closing? I can sleep and hibernate and restore from both states on the laptop manually. When I close the lid the backlight turns off, but the laptop never stops running. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state only lists the state as closed, no matter if the lid is open or closed.
[23:23] <tyler_d> kkrauss: you could blacklist the drivers.. I am not extremely familiar with that process however I know there is a method to blacklist the driver.
[23:23] <karni> tyler_d: no apps at all. even gnome calculator.
[23:24] <kkrauss> at this rate I might be better of reinstalling the entire OS
[23:24] <kkrauss> this makes no sense
[23:24] <tyler_d> karni: so the side panel is there?
[23:24] <karni> tyler_d: the dash is just empty. only music search works with external results
[23:24] <tyler_d> kkrauss: I did resort to that myself once upon a time..(reinstalling)
[23:24] <karni> tyler_d: yes, the panel is here, I can launch the dash, but there's nothing listed beneath
[23:24] <kkrauss> Why would this drive be listed under additional drivers and listed as tested and fine if it sgoing to do this
[23:24] <tyler_d> karni: can you add/remove things from the panel?
[23:25] <kkrauss> just like I can get my wireless to work when using live usb but it wont work when f8ully installed
[23:25] <tyler_d> karni: sounds like possibly you don't own your home?
[23:25] <Sheldon420> !unetbootin | Sheldon420
[23:25] <sary> kkrauss: for people to be able to assist you , you need to provide more information in details regarding the issue .
[23:25] <karni> tyler_d: when I ran it from USB stick, it worked fine. what has searching for apps to do with owning my home mate :)
[23:25] <kkrauss> sary i ahve multiple times, hold on I will do it again
[23:25] <karni> tyler_d: apps belong to the system
[23:26] <kkrauss> Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this.  I have a laptop with a broken monitor so using an external one.  I used the additional drivers feature and installed the proprietary drivers for the nvidia card on the laptop.  Now when the laptop boots into ubuntu it wont display to the external monitor, only the broken primary montor.  It also has weird behavior, not displaying the entire desktop, not opening terminal when pressing ctrl al
[23:26] <kkrauss> t del, and just going blank when I switch to other terminals by pressing ctrl alt f1 f2 etc.
[23:26] <tyler_d> karni: some preferences and such are kept in your "home"... what do you feel the problem is?
[23:26] <karni> tyler_d: also, it has nothing to do with adding/removing apps to the panel. I'm talking about the search window thingy
[23:26] <kkrauss> ok some typos there but you get the gist
[23:26] <karni> tyler_d: I think it's some left over crust from 11.x perhaps :<
[23:27] <tyler_d> karni: so the only thing left over would be your "home"folder yah
[23:27] <sary> kkrauss: Cool , thats alright .
[23:27] <karni> tyler_d: I'm updating this fresh install now, but thanks for throwing those ideas at me
[23:27] <karni> tylder_d: yeah, definitely the home. it worked from usb flash.
[23:27] <kkrauss> sory for the frustration but I thought iw ould come in here and some one would be like oh do this and you are done.  I don't understand what the problem is, why a tested driver would do this and why I cant seem to fix it.
[23:27] <sary> kkrauss: now , people need to know some details about your graphic card . :)
[23:27] <karni> tyler_d: the problem is - I have the same problem on my private laptop, and I haven't solved it yet. this is the only reason I don't like ubuntu ;{
[23:28] <tyler_d> karni: I would suggest simply ensuring the permissions are correct, and possibly even mount them separate and move what you would like over
[23:28] <karni> I meant Unity ;D
[23:28] <rns> anyone recommend screencasting software for ubuntu?
[23:28] <karni> I love ubuntu :)
[23:28] <tyler_d> karni: :) glad to hear it
[23:28] <kkrauss> its an nvidia card and the driver was installed through the "additional drivers" application I did not do it manually, it was the one recommended and said to be tested fine.
[23:28] <karni> tyler_d: okey, I'll do a recursive chown
[23:28] <tyler_d> karni: do you know much about the terminal
[23:29] <tyler_d> karni: yah, do a chown username:group -R * in your home methinks
[23:29] <karni> tyler_d: I work for Canonical :)
[23:29] <kkrauss> I thought I'd have a functioning web server by now, cant even get the damn OS running right.
[23:29] <karni> yup
[23:29] <tyler_d> karni: switch right after.... chown -R
[23:29] <karni> (laggy internets here)
[23:30] <karni> tyler_d: by that I mean, sure, I love terminal
[23:30] <tyler_d> karni: fantastic ;)
[23:30] <karni> tyler_d: thanks again.
[23:30] <karni> once it's done updating, I'll give it a shot.
[23:30] <tyler_d> karni: you're quite welcome, let me know if you want additional help. the logs would probably be my next move
[23:31] <karni> tyler_d: I never debugged unity :) Sure, thanks Tyler!
[23:31] <kkrauss> sary: any ideas?
[23:32] <Rexter> anyone available to help with an ethernet issue?
[23:33] <karni> kkrauss: Why would you need nvidia card drivers for a server? You could install stuff like WebMin or the like, and never install X on that machine.
[23:33] <tyler_d> Rexter: I can gladly give it a shot
[23:33] <tyler_d> Rexter: need more detail though
[23:33] <kkrauss> irrelevant to my question but the server is going to most likely be a different machine I am going to bridge through this laptop
[23:34] <beandog> webmin++
[23:34] <kkrauss> and ill most likely being using apache2 with ubuntu 10.10 for that, might possibly do a virtual machine server.  This is all just for learning over the summer
[23:35] <kkrauss> bjut right nwo I am just learning to want to punch things because I cant get past this stupid video card issue
[23:35] <tyler_d> kkrauss: you should not have a gui for a server
[23:35] <Fleck> anyone have youtube problem in ubuntu and chrome when html5 player is used, page doesnt get updated when video is playing, when ends - updates messed up page :D
[23:35] <tyler_d> kkrauss: get ubuntu server, install lamp. finne
[23:35] <kkrauss> Do I not speak english
[23:35] <Rexter> tyler_d; thanks. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 the ethernet port is working, but just not seen by the connection manager.
[23:36] <kkrauss> maybe my typos make me harder to understand than I thought.
[23:36] <tyler_d> Rexter: do you know how to open a terminal? is there something plugged into it? what does it show for cards/connections?
[23:36] <sary> kkrauss: 1st you need to determine what GPU is in use . # See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:37] <chsados> arggg im really stuck here guys.  successfully got ubuntu to install alongside windows 7 (windows 7 installed on a 120gb SSD and put ubuntu 12.04 on an internal 500GB HDD) it went through the whole OS install and now when i reboot it just goes straight to windows it doesnt ask me if i want to boot to ubuntu...what did i do wrong?
[23:37] <kkrauss> sary: that is exactly what I did
[23:37] <kkrauss> if you look it says the easiest way to do it is through hardware driver manager
[23:38] <totesmuhgoats> chsados: i would check in your bios to see which drive is set to boot
[23:38] <karni> sary: FWIW, he really doesn't need X/GUI for a server, installing lamp + webmin is easy from terminal. Now, I'll leave it up to you, me gotta go.
[23:38] <MoTec> chsados: likely, you installed the boot loader on the 500gb HD.  Change the boot order in the BIOS to boot from the 500gb drive, first.
[23:38] <Rexter> tyler_d; yes I can use the terminal. i have a ping test running right now. How would i see "cards/connections"
[23:38] <totesmuhgoats> chsados: since they are on completely different drives the ubuntu bootlaoder is probably on the ubuntu drive and the windows on the windows drive
[23:38] <kkrauss> karni for the love of god
[23:38] <kkrauss> Did you read a WORD I wrote
[23:38] <kkrauss> I freaking said the server was going to be ANOTHER machine!!
[23:38] <karni> kkrauss: All of it.
[23:39] <chsados> ok if i put the 500gb first will it ask me if i want to install win7 or ubuntu?  or will i need to change it every time i want to load windows?
[23:39] <sary> Easy guys :)
[23:39] <tyler_d> Rexter: if you right click on the connection manager, and choose "edit connections" you can see them. from a terminal what does `ip a` show please?
[23:39] <MoTec> chsados: it'll probably ask you to boot into either windows or ubuntu
[23:39] <chsados> ok great thank you very much guys...rebooting now
[23:40] <kkrauss> sary: hes derailing from what I am here for, and thats figuring out this driver problem.  Im going to read the rest of this page and see if it has additional info that is helpful.
[23:40] <sary> kkrauss: so , do you happen know what GPU is in use .
[23:40] <karni> kkrauss: Dude, chillax, I'm not attemtping to be 5th wheel of the car anymore, sary will help you.
[23:40] <flayke> Hi
[23:40] <karni> Have a nice evening folks o/
[23:41] <kkrauss> karni: thank you
[23:41] <sary> Hey
[23:41] <karni> kkrauss: I simply misread you, bye bye o/
[23:41] <kkrauss> karni: thats why i asked if you read, but I appreciate you trying to help.
[23:42] <karni> kkrauss: np, these things happen. I can imagine you're being frustrated, graphic card issues are one of the most annoying.
[23:42] <Rexter> tyler_d; 2: eth0....... got a local IP, and all looks good there. I can pastbin you the exact text if you want. I'm pretty sure the problem in in the manager, not the connection. I've got connection to the Internet on it.
[23:42] <sary> you too karni :)
[23:42] <karni> sary: :)
[23:42] <kkrauss> sary: are you looking for specifics, or just that I am using nvidia?
[23:42]  * karni reboots after updating
[23:42] <kkrauss> im just oging to do an lspci hold on
[23:42] <kkrauss> another frustration is that I have to run up and down a flight of stairs haha
[23:43] <tyler_d> Rexter: shoudl I assume you have tried restarting? if so try doing sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[23:43] <flayke> :-D
[23:43] <Rexter> tyler_d; under edit connections, there was nothing in the wired area. i tried entering it exactly like my other ubuntu box, but it still doesn't see the connection.
[23:43] <[Spirit]> welcome from venezuela :D
[23:43] <sary> kkrauss: i am reading a question .. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+question/196621
[23:43] <Garbee> Is the connection manager in Unity supposed to show wired connections?
[23:43] <tyler_d> Rexter: normally it would simply load that in there
[23:44] <Rexter> tyler_d; I'll give that a shot. i did go so far as to uninstall, and re-install the manager.
[23:44] <karni> kkrauss: oh man, that sucks even more :x :) (the stairs)
[23:45] <Rexter> tyler_d; yep, it should, that's why we are having this conversation. :)
[23:46] <tyler_d> Rexter: lol
[23:46] <kkrauss> ok
[23:47] <kkrauss> sary: vga compatible controller : NVIDIA corp c51 (zhrgotvr ho 6100) (reve a2)
[23:47] <Rexter> tyler_d; I tried the manager restart, no change. If you click on Connection Information. an error dialog pops up "No valid active connections found!"
[23:48] <tyler_d> Rexter: could you please remove the entry for eth0 from within  /etc/network/interfaces
[23:48] <tyler_d> Rexter: then reboot
[23:48] <kkrauss> tyler_d: I apologize again for getting snippy, but it often happens when I go into #c and ask for help solving a problem they go ont tangents about hwo the entire code should be written differently.
[23:48] <kkrauss> tyler_d: since you seem to know so much about web servers, tell me what you think of this howto
[23:49] <tyler_d> kkrauss: which howto?
[23:49] <Rexter> tyler_d; okayyyy
[23:49] <tyler_d> Rexter: so you would want to (from a terminal) do cd /etc/network
[23:50] <tyler_d> Rexter: then cp interfaces ~/interfaces.bak ..... followed by gksu gedit interfaces
[23:50] <Dayofswords> kkrauss: same thing happened for me when i was learning C++ in thier channel "I can't figure out I'm getting this result" "dude, you should start over with a class and cont blah blah blah"
[23:50] <kkrauss> tyler_d: lol sorry forgot to copy it http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/build-linux-web-server-computer-part-1/
[23:50] <Rexter> tyler_d; ok, comming back up...
[23:51] <tyler_d> Rexter:
[23:51] <tyler_d> Rexter: very good, keep me updated
[23:51] <tyler_d> kkrauss: taking a look now... if my wireless likes me
[23:51] <tyler_d> kkrauss: based on how quickly their page doesn't load... hehehe
[23:52] <kkrauss> it loads fine for me
[23:52] <kkrauss> lol
[23:52] <kkrauss> sary: the more im reading this the more it doesnt make sense im having a problem, I installed the right driver
[23:52] <xcyclist> say, what this the name of the "mail" command line email command these days?   I am not seeing it on 12.04.
[23:52] <xcyclist> I just need a simple "mail" command, not elm, or pine.
[23:53] <|seca|> Is there current documentation on wpa_supplicant for ubuntu server 12.04?
[23:53] <|seca|> I cant seem to find it.
[23:53] <kkrauss> ok heres a problem
[23:53] <karni> tyler_d: didn't help (the chmod). gotta get some sleep, will try fixing it another time. thanks for help, pal :)
[23:53] <kkrauss> Ive booted into recovery console and dropped to shell ine
[23:53] <xcyclist>  it's bsd-mailx I guess.
[23:54] <kkrauss> but I cant write to any files or do anything even with sudo, it says read only file system?
[23:54] <tyler_d> kkrauss: it appears to make very good sense and be quite thorough... however I would fundimentaly dissagree. install ubuntu server, and select lamp(linux/apache/mysql/php) on installation, coupled with sshserver, these things can be installed right from installation
[23:54] <tyler_d> karni: very good, sorry we couldnt' nail it. have a good rest
[23:54] <karni> np! thanks tyler_d
[23:54] <kkrauss> oh thats what lamp meant lol
[23:54] <tyler_d> kkrauss: sorry, shoudl have specified earlier
[23:55] <Rexter> tyler_d; ok I have the gedit window open now.
[23:55] <kkrauss> its an older pc Ill be using though
[23:55] <kkrauss> which version should I get
[23:55] <kkrauss> that page recommended 10.10
[23:55] <tyler_d> Rexter: very good, do you see a line refering to eth0?
[23:55] <sary> kkrauss: alright. I know what you mean :) .. can you see what driver is used from the output of sudo lshw -C Video .. look in the configuration line :
[23:56] <kkrauss> sary: that command doesnt seem to be working
[23:56] <kkrauss> it just kind of flashes
[23:56] <Rexter> tyler_d; yes auto: eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp
[23:56] <kkrauss> sary: then hangs at PCI (sysfs)
[23:56] <sary> kkrauss: and are you able to switch to a real console !
[23:56] <kkrauss> wiat it stopped hanging
[23:56] <kkrauss> no I had to boot into recovery console
[23:57] <kkrauss> then drop to prompt
[23:57] <sary> kkrauss: that's not hanging :)
[23:57] <BFranks> Does Ubuntu 11+ come with an enabled Root user with some default password? ..
[23:57] <kkrauss> sary: yes sorry didnt realize it needed time
[23:57] <tyler_d> Rexter: can you please remove the auto: eth0 references, ie. literally where it says eth0, delete it
[23:57] <MoTec> BFranks: no
[23:57] <tyler_d> Rexter: then save and close please
[23:57] <kkrauss> sary: the information is basically the same as before
[23:57] <hittt> BFranks: You are asked to put a root password while installing
[23:57] <MoTec> BFranks: just whatever you setup during install
[23:57] <sary> okay , you could also drop to a tty by pressing Ctrl+Alt+f1 , or F2 .
[23:58] <kkrauss> sary: one option is to run nvidia0config but I cant make any changes to any files even with sudo because it says read only file system?
[23:58] <tyler_d> sary: ctl-alt-shift isn't it?
[23:58] <Rexter> tyler_d; done
[23:58] <sary> kkrauss: right , just look for the configuration line :
[23:58] <BFranks> hitt: Yeah they ask to setup a user.. I don't recall an asking for a root pass other than MySQL root pass
[23:58] <MoTec> hittt: actually, you don't set up a root password while installing.  you set a password for a user account that can sudo root.
[23:58] <tyler_d> Rexter: very good, restart the machine please
[23:58] <kkrauss> um what
[23:59] <MoTec> BFranks: that user can sudo root
[23:59] <MoTec> BFranks: You can even get a root prompt, although it's not really recommended, by doing sudo su -
[23:59] <kkrauss> sary: one of the known problems is very similar and wants me to edit the xorg.conf file but I cant because it says it is read only file system how do I take care of that?
[23:59] <MoTec> Best to just use sudo to change what you need to