[02:14] <qheolet> how many bots has this channel?
[07:37] <mighty_aboba> I installed xfce 4.10 from Xubuntu ppa and all is okey)
[07:37] <mighty_aboba> If someone want to install new xfce
[09:49] <plotino> hi everybody
[09:50] <plotino> i was wondering why ubuntustudio dont let me update single program as hydrogen?
[10:32] <plotino> hi again
[10:32] <plotino> same question
[10:32] <plotino> i was wondering why ubuntustudio dont let me update single program as hydrogen?
[10:52] <astraljava> plotino: Can you describe your problem more accurately? Like pastebin your attempts to upgrade in terminal?
[11:10] <plotino> in synaptic the choiche to update the packet is grey out. No chance to update
[11:10] <plotino> i would likr to update only some packets and not the entire distro
[13:37] <astraljava> plotino: Hmm... well if you're up-to-date with the packages, then it just means there is no newer option available for that release. Only certain versions are supported for certain releases.
[13:38] <astraljava> plotino: Your only option would be to see whether there's a newer version in -backports.
[14:32] <holstein> for the record, "ubuntustudio" is not keeping you from doing that plotino
[14:32] <holstein> you can build the latest version of whatever you choose and use it
[15:13] <mighty_aboba> Len-dt, Hi)
[15:14] <mighty_aboba> What DAW do you use for your work?
[15:15] <holstein> ardour is the main one
[15:15] <holstein> qtractor is one a lot of MIDI folk use
[15:16] <holstein> openoctave is one to keep an eye on
[15:22] <mighty_aboba> wow, openoctave
[15:22] <mighty_aboba> first time i hear about this
[15:22] <mighty_aboba> is it a daw?
[15:24] <mighty_aboba> sorry, i know English is not good
[15:24] <mighty_aboba> what is "to keep an eye on" mean?
[15:38] <mighty_aboba> ok, i understand what is "to keep an eye on" mean))))
[15:39] <mighty_aboba> Do you used openoctave?
[15:40] <holstein> mighty_aboba: nop
[15:40] <holstein> e
[15:41] <holstein> theres #openoctave though... seems like a good project to watch
[15:48] <mighty_aboba> okey, thanx
[15:48] <mighty_aboba> very interesting project
[15:48] <qheolet> yes very interesting
[15:49] <qheolet> i send to a freiend of mine that compose and have a mini studio
[15:54] <plotino> so
[15:54] <plotino> i have tried
[15:54] <plotino> apt-get install rosegarden
[15:54] <plotino> it says prrgram is at the last version available
[15:55] <plotino> it is 10.02
[15:55] <plotino> while in the rosegarden website the last stable is 11.11
[16:01] <holstein> plotino: 10.04?
[16:01] <holstein> plotino: whats the overall issue?
[16:02] <holstein> plotino: i would say, try and not change the versions too much... its part of the convinience of ubuntu that you can really break and get into trouble with
[16:02] <plotino> im using unbuntu studio 10.4
[16:02] <holstein> plotino: 10.04?
[16:02] <plotino> ok
[16:02] <holstein> plotino: i am as well
[16:02] <holstein> plotino: try 12.04 live if you'd like
[16:02] <holstein> plotino: that is long term support as well, and i plan to upgrade soon
[16:03] <plotino> but for example if i enable the jack transportation in rosegardeg it fails to start correctly
[16:03] <holstein> plotino: but you dont know that that is because of the versioning
[16:03] <plotino> exactly
[16:03] <holstein> plotino: i usually open synaptic and "force" an ealier version
[16:03] <plotino> but maybe similar bug should be fixed bt new versions ..
[16:04] <holstein> plotino: you can try 12.04 live and see, without changing your current install
[16:04] <holstein> you can see if the newer versions have any effect
[16:04] <holstein> otherwise, it could just be a known bug that you are fighting to work around, that will just now work
[16:04] <holstein> not work*
[16:04] <holstein> ardour3 has midi support
[16:04] <holstein> qtractor is what most folk use instead of rosegarden these days
[16:07] <plotino> rosegarden is bad for you?
[16:08] <holstein> plotino: i dont use sequencers much
[16:08] <holstein> plotino: you can ask in #opensourcemusicians
[16:08] <holstein> im literally speaking from experience and what i see in that channel
[16:08] <holstein> most folks use qtractor
[16:09] <plotino> ok
[16:09] <holstein> theres no features in RG that would make me pull my hair out trying to use it
[16:09] <holstein> i would just use one of the many other midi sequencers
[16:10] <holstein> the one in ardour 3 being top of the list, since it will be the big one that most folks will be using
[18:36] <jonasmu> hola
[18:50] <qheolet> hola
[18:59] <astraljava> aloha
[19:01] <qheolet> Aloha!
[19:01] <qheolet> Astral Java!!!
[19:10] <qheolet> /con/com
[19:10] <qheolet> /con/con