=== nanotube is now known as rg [07:25] how do I change the window manager in xubuntu? [07:27] wahlsieger: go to settings-manager > window-manager > choose a different theme from the list [07:27] no, I don't want a different theme. I want compiz instead of xfwm4. [07:27] i see, in that case install compiz and run "compiz --replace" [07:28] but you'll also need either metacity or emerald for the window-decorations [07:28] and put "compiz --replace" in autostart? [07:29] hmwell, there are different solutions for having compiz autostarted, you can also fiddle with the session [07:30] which is usually more effective, because if you throw this into the autostart, then first xfwm4 will start, and in a second step be replaced by compiz [07:30] but better to search the interwebs for tutorials, i haven't done this in ages [07:30] kk, thanks [07:30] np [08:03] Hi, I updated to 12.04 when it came out 2 weeks ago (or so?) on my pc and laptop ... on my pc everything went smoothly but on my laptop however I ran into a problem where I get stuck at the loading screen (right before the login screen) ... no matter how long I wait, it won't go any further than that. What should I do to fix this? I've been getting by with a dual boot for the last weeks, but I really need to fix it actually [08:17] theoN^: Can you hit Ctrl + Alt + F1 while it's loading, and see the console printout? Alternatively, you could change grub boot parameters and set 'nosplash' and lose the 'quiet' from it to have more information about the boot process. [09:21] necesito ayuda [09:21] !es [09:21] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [09:24] hi, is there a way to change the behavior of the Caps Lock key? e.g. set it to behave as a Compose key [09:24] you mean globally or app-specific? [09:27] globally [09:28] CapsLock is a useless key imo and I might find a better use of it if it were a compose key [09:32] I know how to disable caps lock. what is a composekey btw? [09:33] well, it's a key that allows you to generate different characters by composing 2 characters [09:34] for example, I think the sequence Compose, /, o generates an ø [09:34] ah, ok I'm norwegian, I allready have an ø Ø :) [09:35] yeah, well, I don't but I have AltGr-o for that [09:35] think you might have to use xmodmap, but don't know how. For just disbling caps lock the command is: /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option "ctrl:nocaps" [09:36] actually I have lots of nice characters in AltGr-something not in Windows :) [09:37] windows? what is that? don't understand [09:37] coffee..brb [09:37] it's an esoteric operating system used at work and that is pre-installed in some computers so that you can download linux [09:39] which reminds me... time to tweak my keyboard distribution. Any tip on who should I contact for suggestions on my distribution? freedesktop maybe? [09:45] hmm, weird, xubuntu ignores my mouse pointer settings. Hand and I use the whiteglass theme but the normal arrow pointer doesn't [09:45] (actually it does on Firefox) [09:45] (but not on the rest of programs) [09:45] ...oh, it does on the desktop [09:45] yeah, I have had troubles with that on some distros. use the command: sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme [09:46] might have to log out and in too [09:46] there are 6 alternatives [09:47] ...oh, I just select the theme I like [09:47] I usually use the kde mouse pointer, and they work in everything except firefox before I set it in gui and use the command. [09:47] (guess this is a system-wide option rather than a user-wide, but ok) [09:48] not sure. only have one user. [09:48] don't feel like restarting GUI now... will see if it worked later [09:50] it's easy. Uses sudo? yes: system wide; no: user wide; end [09:53] haven't thought about it that way.. hmm [09:56] but when I do, your right === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === zx__ is now known as aquix [12:46] Hi there [12:48] I'm on a laptop, a bit old, 2004-2005, with 1Go RAM, 1,4Ghz processor and still I can't play videos properly, either with VLC, Parole, or SMPlayer, could someone help me fixing it please? [12:50] have you installed the video card drivers? [12:51] What's the problem? Maybe you don't actually have the required codecs for the videos? [12:51] vlc eats them all [12:52] FWIW, I've never had what I would consider good performance out of the flash video on Youtube back in the day. [12:52] HTML5 has made life considerably better on that front. [12:53] flash is a pain alright [12:54] that CPU might not be capable [12:57] Dunno, that sounds similar to my Dell Mini 10 and it plays most anything I throw at it. [12:58] Maybe the N410 is that much more capable, not sure. [12:59] we played videos on laptops in 2001. and 1,4Ghz isn't that bad. I'm guessing he needs drivers for his gfx === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [13:18] sorry I don't know, where could I get the best drivers? and I'm a total noob at Linux/Xubuntu [13:19] videos used to play pretty ok when on Win XP so, yeah I gues the material isn't what's causing this [13:19] and sorry for the delay, I was reading sth else [13:21] And the exact problem is : the audio seems fine but video is all slowed down and sort of laggy, with "jumps" [13:23] It's a HP Compaq nx7010 if that may help [13:26] Using Xubuntu 12.04 and I want to either switch to lightdm-gtk-greeter or just eliminate the need to login, but when I switch to it in lightdm.conf X doesn't start. [13:36] Fab__ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNX7010 [13:36] Fab__, read :http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debiannx7010 [13:37] allright I'm gonna read that, TY guys [13:38] I guess it an ati card, allways fun. [13:39] old ati is better than old nvidia [13:39] yes it need fglrx [13:43] Ok, so first link tells me everything's fine between my laptop and Xubuntu [13:50] what's fglrx actually? [13:51] that are the amd closed source video driver [13:51] !info fglrx [13:51] fglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 38286 kB, installed size 114917 kB (Only available for amd64; i386) [13:52] yeah but Its for AMD grahic cards [13:52] yes it is [13:52] dont have to use it when you dont have an amd card :) [13:53] actually I'm not 100% sure what card I have, I'm a total noob, told you, but from what I remember I have an ATI Radeon [13:54] Fab__: lspci [13:54] or install a tool that shows the information about your hardware [13:56] AMD bought ATI some years back. [13:56] yeah it's ATI [13:56] oh ok [13:56] I didn't even know ATI was with AMD [13:56] so I need to install & run flgrx [13:57] Fab__ could you install inxi real quick? in terminal sudo apt-get install inxi [13:57] doing it right now [13:58] cool, I'll show you something when done [13:58] E: impossible to find the package [13:59] hmm. xubuntu 12.04? [13:59] yup [13:59] it's in the repos. try software center or synaptic [14:00] btw inxi is a cool terminal program that shows system information [14:02] 5 min smokes [14:04] synaptics doesn't find it [14:07] ok no worries [14:07] try this instead, type here in chat /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:11] typed it, nothing came out of it [14:12] /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:13] too many spaces, try this and no space infront of the / /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:13] in terminal i get sth, not here, you want that? [14:13] paste it here in the chat [14:14] cant copy/paste from terminal, apparently, but I can give the info [14:14] paste this /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:15] /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:15] and now with no space in front [14:15] even on deleting the spaces, nothing happens [14:16] paste it like it is but with no spaces in front of /exec /exec lspci | grep VGA [14:16] or xchat can't know it's a commans [14:16] not every irc client supports /exec [14:17] I pasted it the way you told me, just nothing happens [14:17] what irc client do you use? [14:17] fabien@fabien-Compaq-nx7010-DJ342T-UUG:~$ lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01) [14:17] They're using the freenode webchat. [14:18] !pastebinit [14:18] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [14:18] ^ That might be helpful in the future. [14:18] now ok, I changed terminal, and I can copy/paste [14:18] so you have the result I get [14:22] #ubuntu-offtopic [14:22] fail [14:23] try /j in front [14:23] ;) [14:26] Fab__ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver [14:29] http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx [14:30] I'm DLing fglrx [14:31] hope it works.. :p [14:31] Fab__, sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle [14:32] Fab__, and then:sudo amdconfig --initial -f [14:41] fabien@fabien-Compaq-nx7010-DJ342T-UUG:~$ sudo amdconfig --initial -f amdconfig: No supported adapters detected [14:42] Fab__, with the first step ,any errors? [14:46] no [14:47] first step went fine [14:51] take a look in xorg.conf [14:53] Fab__, try restarting [15:00] where's xorg.conf? cant open it from terminal command === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [15:02] Fab__, first time in ubuntu? [15:02] yep [15:03] in any open source OS as a matter of fact [15:03] need to read some things before make change in the system [15:03] I'm all ear [15:03] is better for you to understand how ubuntu works [15:04] xorg is part of x windows system [15:04] sure I'm working on it, but there's so much [15:04] yes [15:04] but everybody make one time in the live [15:05] I know there's a Xorg or Xvesa system (learnt it from PupLinux Live-CD) [15:06] thing is I know nothing at all :p (almost) [15:07] Fab__, sudo leafpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:07] and pastebin [15:07] I need to type pastebin? [15:08] xorg.conf no longer exists in a default (x)Ubuntu install. xorg will honor your settings if you put them in there though. [15:08] the file isn't empty, cause yesterday some guy here already tried to help me but couldn't finish before it was too late [15:08] Fab__: okay :) [15:09] Fab__, make in terminal: sudo aticonfig --initial [15:09] there's this Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9]" Driver "ati" # Hyödyllisiä kaikille ATI/AMD-korteille Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" # ilman tätä käytössä on ati-ajurilla toistaiseksi vanhempi XAA Option "DynamicClocks" "true" # virransäästöominaisuus joka ei ole oletuksena kytketty tällä hetkellä päälle # Seuraavat vain Mobilit [15:09] done [15:10] Fab__, any error? [15:10] actually no, since nothing happens [15:10] Fab__, need to restart [15:10] nothing I can see at least [15:10] ok [15:11] restart the whole computer, not just the session? [15:11] Fab__, whole [15:11] ok brb [15:17] I'm back [15:17] i see [15:17] any errors [15:19] As I haven't run anything, nope, not yet :p But I can try a video to see if there's any improvement [15:20] try video [15:20] Oh gosh it's fine [15:20] ty ! [15:20] It's just as perfect as it should be [15:20] ok [15:21] but... I haven't entirely understood what I did, so... just in case the same problem would happen again, could you repeat? :p I think I might write this down somewhere [15:22] need to read ubuntu/debian wiki about your video card [15:22] wait [15:23] ATI Radeon RV 250 is what I have [15:27] Fab__, do you know ubuntu is based in debian? [15:28] may wiki page from debian are working in ubuntu [15:28] heard something like that but I dont know what Debian is actually [15:28] this is one:http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary [15:28] debian is ubuntu less frendly [15:29] that is ok ? [15:30] Fab__, try to not change anything in the notebook until you read and understang what are doing [15:30] so my installation started to act weird this morning, 45 minutes ago it totally went haywire without me doing anything [15:31] good times [15:32] anyone else having this bug in 12.04? #984878 [15:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/984878 [15:32] Launchpad bug 984878 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu Precise) "Add annotation button missing" [Low,In progress] [15:32] ubottu, you don't say! [15:32] cousteau: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:33] Okay I won't touch a thing as long as it works fine [15:33] * cousteau was expecting the bot to recognize "#984878" as a bug id [15:33] Fab__, ok [15:33] can't say that i have but alt + tab for cycling windows stopped working [15:35] I don't know if #984878 was already fixed on Ubuntu but not Xubuntu or if it wasn't fixed at all [15:36] ...maybe my server is outdated, I'm not using the main ones [15:37] cousteau, "bug abc", where abc is bug number :) [15:38] knome, yeah, managed to figure that out, thanks :) [15:39] So, is anyone able to add annotations in Evince? [15:47] Fab__ there is a wiki for ubuntu presice http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide [16:16] ok, so "In progress" sounds like "we are already fixing this and a fixed version will be released soon", right? [16:17] cousteau, well, it's kind of like that, but there is not yet any promises when it's fixed, or if it is fixed at all (some issues tend to be more complex than thought, and that might mean they are postponed to future) [16:18] knome, afaik the bug has already been fixed in evince, so I'd guess they only have to apply the patch [16:19] cousteau, in that case, yeah, it should be out relative soonish. when it's "fix committed", it's really close [16:19] actually the state is "GTK+: fix released; gtk+3.0: fix commited; Precise: in progress" [16:20] :) [16:20] knome: is there a way we can manually update to XFCE 4.10 ? [16:21] i mean since 12.04 still new I didnt get a lot of results off google [16:21] REK_007, the ~xubuntu-devel PPA, but remember that it is not officially supported [16:22] knome: can you tell me what can go wrong at the maximum>? [16:22] and can i revert back if a problem arises? [16:22] REK_007, it can render your computer unusable. that's not expected, but the PPA is not tested, and we can't guarantee what happens when you use it [16:23] okies :) [16:23] REK_007, yeah, you are able to revert [16:23] than worth a try :) [16:23] then* [18:14] in gnome and unity, I was able to mount up (via ssh) a remote directory. Is there a gui way to do that in xfce? [18:17] craigbass1976: yes, Gigolo [18:23] its also not difficult using sshfs [18:23] its as simple as [18:24] sshfs [user@server] [directory to mount] [18:24] enter your password and go check out the folder in thunar [18:27] hi anyone has an idea on how to get this theme ? http://voyager.legtux.org/ [18:27] please [18:27] is it awn and some theme ? [18:29] i mean, it is awn ..but how to get this approximatively :) [18:31] earspliT, that's what I ended up doing. there's a link in the dir that I'm mounting up though, (blah is a link to /var/www/blah) and so that's not working so well. I'm guessing it's pointing at a local /var/www/blah, which doesn't exist. [18:39] And is there a way, when hitting Open on various programs, to skip the whole Recently Used files thing and just show me what's there? [19:21] ubuntu one is configured at installation ? [19:21] available.. i mean [19:25] You can install it, but you'd have to do it after you install the system as it doesn't come with Xubuntu. [19:48] ok thanks [19:48] ! [19:57] Hi. How can I blacklist a program from being started? [19:58] uninstall it? [19:58] tomasz: application menu - Settings - settings manager - session and startup - application autostart [20:00] It's not there. It's "smfpd". It's installed with Samsung laser printer driver and listens for devices connected through LPT. It does LOTS of unwanted job and eats battery. [20:01] remove it [20:03] tomasz: check /etc/init.d/smfpd [20:03] (open with text editor) [20:05] tomasz: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1450610.html [20:05] Done! Thank you :) There was info in it how to disable its execution. [20:05] np :) [20:11] Is anyone using session-wrapper in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf? I can't seem to use anything there without it dumping back to the login screen. [20:15] bipolar: if you can get lightdm to actually read lightdm.conf and reliably start on boot with lightdm-gtk-greeter then you're ahead of me [20:17] PhorceP, oh, boy. Well, I have it working with a script in session-setup-script, but that runs as root. [20:17] PhorceP, and I needed to use sudo on that line. [20:18] bipolar: what greeter are you using? [20:18] PhorceP, greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter [20:21] bipolar: k, I just found another typo in my config so I'll get back to this later...thanks [20:29] how I can make two typos in four short lines of config is inexcusable [20:38] It looks like I can drop user scripts into /etc/X11/Xsession.d to have them run as user automatically... so I don't need session-wrapper anyway. Does that help you at all PhorceP? [20:46] xubuntu freezes on the wireless part of the installation any ideas on what to do? [20:47] xubuntu677: i would not use it.. just dont use internet during the install [20:47] use the alternate iso even if you cant "get around" it [20:48] it still freezes when i say i dont want to enable wireless [20:48] xubuntu677: and the alternate iso? [20:49] what is different about the alternate iso? [20:49] xubuntu677: its text based... AFAIK, it wont do anything with the wireless like that... any messages? [20:51] wont text based be hard though? i am not experienced with linux [20:51] xubuntu677, it asks the same questions [20:51] will it install just the same? [20:56] hello? [20:56] xubuntu677: in theory, it will actually work, and not hang up where you are having issues [20:57] xubuntu677: try and be patient here.. its a volunteer organization :) [20:57] okay well i will let you know thanks guys [20:57] xubuntu677: you can turn the wireless off [20:57] xubuntu677: disable in the bios... hit the switch.. for example [20:59] sorry i am not really familiar with bios or linux this is my first install and i am going to have it as my only OS i will try the alternate iso and see if that works [21:00] xubuntu677: sure.. do what you feel comfortable with [21:00] there should be a wireless switch somewhere that turns the wifi card off [21:04] a wireless switch on the alternate install? or are you talking about the bios? sorry easily confused but i appreciate your help [21:08] xubuntu677: in talking about on the machine [21:08] if the wireless device is hanging up, dont choose to install *anything* viw wifi or othwerwise from the installer, and turn the device off [21:09] you can try that while you wait on the alternate iso to come in [21:09] yes i know it is disabled already still freezes going to try the alternate iso :) [21:09] xubuntu677: the hardware is disabled? [21:10] xubuntu677: are you certain?.. its unlikely the wifi is "freezing" the install if there is no wifi [21:10] i am certain it normally has a light but i turned it off by hitting FN and the wireless symbol [21:10] xubuntu677: then, id say you have another situation... are you able to get to the desktop live? [21:11] yes i am able to get it live this also happens with ubuntu [21:11] xubuntu677: xubuntu *is* ubuntu [21:11] xubuntu677: you should expect the same performance from the same kernels no matter what the DE is [21:12] oh okay i think it may be due to my HDD [21:12] similar performance, .. the same hardware support [21:12] xubuntu677: yup.. HDD or memory... you should be albe to test both from the live CD [21:13] well first i will try the alternate then test from the live cd [21:13] how will i know what is wrong from the live cd? [21:13] xubuntu677: you can run a memory test, and a hard drive test [21:14] i know but how will i know if there is a problem after the test? [21:14] xubuntu677: you can read the results, and interpret the data... usually it says something like "bad" or "failed".. something with english words that are rather helpful [21:15] okay thanks very much [21:16] now its freezing after pressing enter on the install xubuntu on the alternate disk [21:17] well, there are several "constants" that i see... the internet you are using to download, the optical drive, and the machine you are putting it on [21:17] you could be downloading bad images [21:17] !md5 [21:17] hey folks whats going on here [21:17] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [21:18] you could have bad hardware, USB stick or optical drive... whatever you are using to install [21:19] okay i will try burn another disc? [21:22] anybody know any good software to burn an iso on windows? [21:22] xubuntu677: i would confirm the md5 sum [21:22] windows xp [21:22] !md5 | xubuntu677 [21:22] xubuntu677: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [21:32] Hi. Have anyone noticed that Xubuntu 12.04,run a little bit slower than Ubuntu on newer hardware? [21:33] boromir: i have not... [21:36] ok, fixed the problem with lightdm-gtk-greeter not starting by manually starting lightdm with the correct config in place. I think this is an artifact of updating from xubuntu 10.10 to 12.04 (and the versions between) [21:37] holstein_, i have that problem,it freeze some times,and i can see the difference on ubuntu, ubuntu didn't freeze not one until now [21:37] and even when it wasn't working (before I realized I needed to manually start lightdm) it WAS reading the config file because it would work when I switched the greeter [21:38] boromir: xubuntu is ubuntu... are you talking about ubuntu 12.04 and xubuntu 12.04? it would be more likely you are using/booting 2 different kernels and getting differnt results rather than DE's [21:40] holstein_,same kernel ,3.2.0-24 i think on same laptop,dual boot xubuntu and ubuntu 12.04 [21:44] boromir: then i would look for another reason.. some pacakge or module.. or graphics driver.. unity vs. XFCE is not plausible to me [21:44] package* [21:47] holstein_,xfce supposed to be faster than gnome shell desktop environment,so need to be faster,2*core cpu,4gb ram is fast, Thanks for your answers [22:15] can anybody help me? i have been having trouble installing xubuntu because it kept freezing on the wirless step of the installation so it was suggested to use the alternate iso which i have done and it worked for a few steps but after i entered my password of choice i am just stuck with a blue screen? [22:23] i am having trouble installing xubuntu it even freezes using the alternate ISO [22:26] Hello all... I can't blank a CD-RW and I can't burn an ISO image under xubuntu with xfburn. How come? [22:30] Lachezar: what does it say the problem is? you did "burn img" and not "compose data cd"? you selected the right device (if you have two)? [22:52] David-A: Both 'Butn Image' and 'Blank CD-RW' are grayed-out. [22:53] I had to resort to log-out, and use cdrecord from the text terminal to complete the job... [23:08] 2 questions: "Is there any way to make the window resize border on greybird-compact theme more than 1px?" and "How do I get the `Window Buttons` panel item to respect my panel width and not overflow off the side?" [23:13] lol okay "design decision" it was, re: question 1 [23:30] brb, heading home [23:52] Is there a way to switch users? Right now, my wife and I lock the screen, the select new login from the pop up that happens when we move the mouse. [23:53] There is a "User switch" panel applet. [23:57] David-A, I don't see it [23:58] craigbass1976: can you please help me [23:59] ChristopherNG, perhaps. WHat are you after? [23:59] craigbass1976: i need help trying to secure my ports [23:59] brb [23:59] ChristopherNG, they should be fairly secure from the get go, as long as you don't have a bunch of services running